Something So Sinister Is Coming and It Is Now Impacting Every Christian Alive… The Domino Effect Has Begun!
By Lisa Haven
Ever since the U.S. Supreme Courts decision to legalize gay marriage in all 50 states, there has been a domino effect of attacks on Christianity and the persecution against religion has ignited.
Consider this, recently I reported an event that happened in Kentucky where a pastor was banned from preaching in a Juvenile Detention Center because he refused to sign a waiver that stated he would not say Homosexuality was a sin.
In Seattle, two Christian street pastors were brutally beaten at a gay pride festival for holding up signs in protest.
Then days ago a Mississippi School opens with prayer at an assembly honoring high-achievers, and because of that the school district is now being fined $7,500 and dishing out money to the student who sued them. Additionally the judge has ordered that all bibles be banned from the campus.
Here is the breaking report…
It seems one can hardly watch television anymore without the bombardment of profanity, sexual content, violence, wizardry, and promiscuity –and that’s just the commercials! Fifty years ago such immoral content would have been considered too scandalous to be aired on live TV. Yet today, such programs are not only watched but promoted and encouraged. Where has America gone?
How about our schools? Since 1963, the year prayer was removed, our schools have plummeted morally. High School pregnancies have increased by 200%, school shootings are on a rocketed rise, STD’s in children are up by 230%, condoms are placed in public school restrooms, and immorality is accepted as the norm. Even worse, seventh graders are now being taught how to pray to Muhammad and wage their own holy Jihad, while saying the pledge of allegiance is frowned upon in some schools. Not only that but our elementary children— some as early as Kindergarten—are forced to go through classes that teach homosexuality, bisexuality, and transgender as a lifestyle they too can be a part of, and parents who object to such teachings are considered divisive, intolerant, and bigoted.
How about our churches? If we look back at the 1940′s and 1950′s church, the top problems were: smoking, dancing, television, makeup and card playing. The problems today, however, are much worse, they are: ordination of sodomites, adultery, divorce, drug abuse, financial scandals, the emergent church, and fallen pastors and evangelists. Not only that but there are many mega churches preaching a one-sided gospel message. If hell doesn’t fit into their doctrine, they remove it and teach their congregants that hell is a fictional place. While others are making God into the God they desire Him to be. They preach only grace and forget that the God we serve will one day judge the world too. God is a God of grace, love, mercy, and forgiveness but he is also a God who will one day judge the world for their lives on earth. The sad part is many churches today fail to teach the full truth of the Bible, and as a result many people are coming to Jesus only for what He can do for them, rather than making a sincere commitment. The second they found out it isn’t only about getting things from Christ, but life sacrifices, they are gone! In truth, they never really knew the true God in the first place. This is one reason we have many false converts today, which have invaded our churches, and sadly, many churches cater to them for financial reason; thus leaving holes in the Gospel of Christ. I believe you get the picture.
“But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power… always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” 2 Timothy 3:1-5,7
How did our nation end up at this point of moral decay? The answer, quite simply, is that it happened slow and steady. Kind of like the analogy of the frog in the kettle. If you stick a frog in a pot of boiling water, it will instantly jump out. However, if you stick that same frog in a pot of lukewarm water and slowly, over time, raise the temperature. Then it will boil to death because it doesn’t realize the waters temperature rising. It just stays in the pot until its utter death. This is what is happening to America, and our politicians are using the frog method to slow boil our freedoms and morality away.
“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.” 1 John 2:15-16
“Then He [Jesus] called the crowd to Him along with His disciples and said, ‘If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me and for the gospel will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.” Mark 8:34-38
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Whistler Blowers, Insiders
“For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. “You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. SEE THAT YOU ARE NOT FRIGHTENED for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.…
Mathew 24 : 5
What do the Pope and Lisa have in common? They are both false prophets.
Hey isn’t that the chapter where it also says eating shellfish, shaving, wearing clothes mixed of different fabrics, eating pork….is also a sin
Since we as a society have accepted all the others as outdated bull maybe we should too on this one also.
….context is a big help, 31.
We of the Kingdom of HaYah ( I Am
) expect ‘society’ to accept/receive
all things that are sin….for the world ‘society’ is Lost and inclined towards the
hell of NO Savior.
So, not only maybe ‘YOU” should too accept all those sins
( there is no ‘we’ imposed, because all of us aren’t part of the ‘we’ you speak of),
but as long as You abide in ‘the ways of the world’ sins are imposed on You,
and the rot gut devil spirits that go along with ‘it’_the world/society and its’ ways.
“Repentance for the remission of sins.:”
New Covenant sin for Believers is not following the Holy Spirit. ( Its’ personal)
And, for Believers to rail at unbelievers for sinning is OFF; for Believers
KNOW that THEY can only act in the Righteousness of I Am by the
Presence of His Spirit within them, leading them.
Better look a little closer at who is behind a lot of the anti-Christian activity going on out there.
Below is just the dust layer on an Everest size pile of data that screams to Christians……..WAKE THE HELL UP !!
STOP SUPPORTING THESE PEOPLE.
http://www.public-action.com/christmas.html
http://www.public-action.com/x/nh-xmas1/
http://come-and-hear.com/editor/index.html#america
http://deeperweb.com/results.php?q=Jewish%20Pornographers%20in%20Modern%20Society&btnG=Search&cx=!004415538554621685521%3Avgwa9iznfuo&cof=FORID%3A11%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&src=ffnt
http://deeperweb.com/results.php?cx=!004415538554621685521%3Avgwa9iznfuo&cof=FORID%3A11%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&q=israeli+espionage+angainst+the+USA&as_qdr=&siteurl=
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=christopher+jon+bjerknes
http://www.whale.to/c/hiddenyyranny.pdf
http://www.biblestudysite.com/factsarefacts.htm
http://www.ijan.org/
https://youtu.be/e_51RtswkOk
/blogging-citizen-journalism/2015/06/secret-nazi-zion-agreement-2513998.html
http://www.takebackourrights.org/docs/Christians-full%20page.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rHhW3Fnk6I
Ok since I am not, then it means it won’t affect me therefore I can save and help my Christian friends
You know what’s said about statistics don’t you Lisa?
“There are lies, damned lies and statistics” Mark Twain
142% of the 200% increase, in High School pregnancies, is down to the increase in population, in America, between 1963 and 2015 so there has only been a 58% increase in real terms. It’s still too much in my opinion but not nearly as bad as you’re trying to make out.
One last thing, girlfriend, crossing your legs at the ankle produces the look you were going for. Crossing them at the knee just looks like you’re busting to go to` the bathroom.
Hello Angle#1,
Charlie here. You are back to square 2 with your hair. Square 1 is straight but with no coloring added.
But you are right about the Supreme Court. A most SHAM-EFUL decision! Supposedly learned men of the highest order and honor reaching sham-eful decisions. Let’s not forget their Roe vs Wade decision that allowed illegal immigration to replace your unborn.
Someone mentioned they will cut back on your Social Security because all your children are gone, not to mention they spent most of it already. So abortion is much worse than you can imagine. 30-50 million of your replacements to pay for YOUR SS are GONE! Hence why they won’t close the border.
Then this sodomite abomination! If you notice carefully one common vein runs through it. Both prevent humans from reproducing. Only one creature desires this, SATAN! As someone said it prevents humans from becoming Gods! But it would be even better if there were no humans because they are to replace Satan and his Demons, you see. This would be most pleasing to SATAN!
Let’s look at some of the Supreme Court decisions.
1.Took prayers out of school. (set un-Christian precedent)
2.Roe Vs Wade (unborn not considered human)
3.Gay “marriage” (no need for husband and wife then)
So our whole nation is now under the spell of the WICKED ONE!
Signed,
Charlie (have you ever tried a triple decker doughnut? Man that’s wicked!)
Homosexuality ‘Natural’? Studies Prove Otherwise
http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/homosexuality-natural-studies-prove-otherwise
Homosexuality is an advantageous evolutionary adaptation that is designed to keep a given species from breeding itself and other species to extinction via competition for water, food, space, resources, etc.
Moreover, if Heterosexuals were so superior, then why have approximately 20% of women had surgical abortions to take the life of an unborn being that is a product of their activity? Gays don’t do that!
This reality would support the notion that the more potential deleterious effect would come from Heterosexual activity (in more ways than one), not Homosexuality activity. Most anyone but a hypocrite could see this.
If anything, Heterosexuals should laud Homosexuals as potential helpers–if not saviors of the Human species…
Listen to the babble of the christo-CREEPS
Trying to make a brand new start
But little did they know when they whined all day
That their white-skin mangod never existed at all!
Rain, please tell them now that no one cares.
We wish they would all go away to the “christian site’.
Their phonemes would be elevated
And they’d all act like christ
Their hearts would know no trouble and
There they could babble all the day!
Listen to the babble of the christo-CREEPS
Trying to make a brand new start
But little did they know when they whined all day
That their white-skin mangod never existed at all!
Fools called judeo-christo-CREEPS from ameriiiSCUM!!!!
The jew-nited Fraudulent Fascist states of TORTURE, MEDICAL and MILITARY TERROR IS A WAR MONGERING NATION of “peace”.
Hello Lisa,
My name is CMT, and, if I may, I would like to give you some feedback from a different point of view. I have an account with BIN, follow the website on my FB, and I daily research the articles posted upon the website; if they do not show up on my FB newsfeed. In doing so, I come across many of your documentations; with me often sharing them, along with a point of view that eludes you most of the time. Now when I read your above documentation, as well as listen to your video documentation, I once again found myself seeing things a little different. Therefore, this time I would like to take the time and share with you personally, the insight that I often share with others. Please know that this sharing is done in purity of heart; for my only intents is to try to help you see from another perspective.
First of all, let me share the response I gave when responding to the incident in Kentucky. This is what I shared:
“Upon reading the below article, and listening to the fullness of the video documentation, I found myself disagreeing greatly with the perceptions being expressed. Now, please know that I did not do any further research into what was shared; therefore, my disagreeances is solely expressed towards the point of view being shared by her towards the knowledge she was exposed to. With that being expressed, let me share with you my disagreeances. First of all, though it may be shocking to many Christians, I completely uphold the law established. I think it is necessary, because way too many Christians are crossing the line with the Word of God by using Scripture as weapons against others; instead of for witness of the ways of Christ, and defense for their beliefs. Or in simple words, they have developed and portray the characteristics of Sadducees and Pharisees instead of Christ. Secondly, Christians have no right to label homosexuality, or other known sins, a sin. This is a form of stereotyping, and stereotyping is socially unacceptable whether it is done on a spiritual or natural foundation. Christians have a right to declare, in the name of God/Christ, that according to His ordinances homosexuality, and other known sins, are deemed sin by God; therefore, making the acts sinful for all those who are children of God. However, they do not have a right to declare, in their own authority that homosexuality, or other known sins, are sinful to the person. Way too many people fail to recognize this, and this law is bringing forth recognition to that fact. You see, the law is not preventing this pastor, David Wells, from testifying of the ordinance of God, for it was expressed to him that he had a right to refer Scripture that the child may seek guidance upon their own. This law is preventing him from using his perceived perceptions towards Scripture to influence in a judging or condemning way. This is exactly what the Sadducees and Pharisees did back in Christ’s day, and Christ Himself stood against such actions. The right to convict a person of sin is the right of the Holy Spirit alone; no one else. Are there any out there that would dare say that the Holy Spirit is incapable of doing His job outside of their involvement? For if there is, truly they need to question themselves as to whether or not they are acting as ministers of the Lord God; or acting as God Himself. Therefore, for this pastor to yield his right to be a ministering agent of the Lord God just because guidelines have been established, limiting his authority, not the Lord God’s, is upon him. What is wrong with the opportunity of referring a person to Scripture, praying for that person privately, in a manner that one seeks for the Lord God, or His precious Holy Spirit, to minister to the person seeking answers straight-up; then letting go and letting God. Finally, this is not persecution people. Nor should it be labeled as such. This pastor is not being harassed or discriminated against in any form or fashion. These children are not entering his world; he is entering theirs” (CMT, 2015).
Now, let me share with you a different view with these other two mentioned incidences. When it comes to the two pastors who were beaten up for their protesting, let me respond with the words ‘provoking’ and ‘stupidity.’ Now please know that is not being mean; only honest. They went to a gay festival, in the name of Jesus, with signs like that. That is not revealing characteristics of Christ; those actions reveal provoking condemnation. Nor is it revealing any type of wisdom. If these pastors truly knew the ways of God, whom Christ represented, for He came not in Himself, but in God the Father, they would have chosen different measures to apply; instead of incite hostility. Now, as far as the school goes, the school was fined for proselytizing Christianity; not for having Christians in the school. Proselytizing Christianity means to encourage belief in. An act that many, whom have different belief foundations, perceive as being actions that encourage converting. When the Pastor prayed to God before an assembly, which was not formed out of volunteer, he upheld Christianity above other beliefs. If opportunity had been given for other belief foundations to also have equal time for expressing, then the claim of proselytizing would not be founded in its accusation. That pastor, as well as the school, would have been wise in just allowing a time of silence; which would have given opportunity for Christians to seek out God, in the name of Jesus, without being an offense, or giving opportunity for someone to pounce upon a lawsuit. And as far as banning Bibles from the school, read this link: http://aclj.org/school-prayer/student-allowed-use-bible-school.
I hope this helps.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
Prophetess, huh?
A prophetess is a terminology that gives recognition to the female gender. There is no difference between a prophet and a prophetess; for both hold the Prophetic Office. In the Bible the Lord God gives recognition to both male and female prophets under the terminology ‘My prophets.’ Therefore you do not usually see the usage of the terminology prophetess unless there is a specific acknowledgement given towards a individual female who holds the office.
Now, as far as the title I acknowledge, just know that it was given to me by the Most High Himself, and it gives recognition to a specific function I am anointed to stand in. I recognize myself as a Bondservant, not because I am anyone’s slave, but because I am bound (vowed) to my servitude to the Most High; I am a vowed servant of the Lord God. I recognize myself as a Prophetess because I am a female who holds the Prophetic Office. And please do not confuse me with self-appointed false prophets. I do not uphold my own will, but the will of my heavenly Father. Now, if you should have any questions, please know that I am completely approachable person, and I will try my best to give understanding.
I hope that helps with the huh.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
Though Yehoshua said that the law and prophets were until John,
and from then, the Kingdom of I Am is proclaimed.
With the New Covenant, they shall all know Me, from the least
to the greatest.
No need for prophets, though there is a need for prophecy by
believers, the least and greatest ones.
…..in the end times, sons and daughters will prophesy…and old men will have dreams….that’s in the bible qanah.
“though there is a need for prophecy by
believers, the least and greatest ones.”
You bet maxxy.
Max,
That is NOT in the Bible.
DREAMS and VISIONS. It does not say “prophesy”.
Having dreams and visions does not make you a prophet.
Listen up prophetess, I urge you to not patronize me or present bombastic and verbose explanations for something so simple as the difference between a prophet and a prophetess.
Do you actually believe those trolling these boards to be too stupid to know the difference? If not, then what’s will all the words?
You appear congenial and forthright, and I presume you to mean well, but that’s the typical response of someone who thinks way too highly of themselves, all while performing a false act of seemingly genuine humility or course.
But my resume falls short of yours as I do not claim the title of prophet, or prophetess (if you need such specifics), nor do I believe you should, let alone feel the need to boast about it on the open forum.
I simply claim to serve Messiah, and that I fear for the judgment of my sins. I don’t concern myself with the imaginations of men or women who think they have received ‘prophecies’. We were given the OT as an example and the NT to help guide us until the end. I simply do not believe in modern day prophets. In fact, I believe that placing those three words together creates a contradictory statement. But, before I get in to that, let me ask, did you test the spirit? (Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits). If your answer is yes, then will you explain how?
“as far as the title I acknowledge, just know that it was given to me by the Most High Himself… I recognize myself as a Prophetess because I am a female who holds the Prophetic Office”
Yes. Yes. Yes. Along with you and a million others on conspiracy forums and YouTube videos. How are we to know which are true, and which are false?
Isn’t the Bible all we should need?
If not, what verse would lead you to believe otherwise? If so, then what’s the point of revealing titles like prophet or prophetess if there isn’t some underlying need for self-aggrandizement? Why is it so difficult for people attaching titles like this to themselves to simply point people in the right direction without trying to draw attention to THEMSELVES?
You’re probably going to throw the following verses about dreams and visions at me to support your belief in modern day prophets:
Will people have dreams in visions, in today’s world?
“And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:” ~ Acts 2:17
Verifiable?
“And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:” ~ Joel 2:28
Indeed.
But does having dreams and visions make you a prophet? Absolutely not.
You know about cognitive dissonance? Or how about the psychology of dreams? And here is a curveball, what about Murphy’s Law?
At one point, i began to receive similar ‘dreams’ or ‘visions’. This only happened to me at a very WEAK and IMMATURE point in my spiritual development. I was spending countless hours jumping around from Youtube videos to articles in the search of messages just like yours, thinking that some man would lead me one step closer to the Truth. But I was wrong.
Think of it like this:
Many lifeguards at crowded wave pools or beaches all over the world experience the same lucid dream. Seemingly transcending time and space, this happens because of the high pressure and intensity involved in scanning for the drowned below the murky waters for hours on end. As such, in these vivid dreams, the lifeguards recall scenes where they are frantically scanning their water for what ultimately results in some kind of active rescue scenario (disaster). This isn’t some prophecy, a great majority of lifeguards never experience a situation as traumatic as what they experienced in the dreams.
See what i’m saying?
I believe that if you look for the disaster, the disaster will find you. Reality is nothing more than a construct of our imagination. If we collectively will it, it will manifest and I believe that’s what these dreams and visions are for, if anything at all. You have to question the source and wait for ultimate confirmation. But there’s no need to revealing such titles anyway as the important message has already been given to us, the New Testament.
Thank you for your response Scanner Darko, and know that I have no problem with understanding as to my motives and reasoning.
First of all, please know that my response to you was not for the sake of patronizing you, over exaggerating, or self-exaltation. On the contrary, when I respond to any posting I respond with the reasoning that the response will be subjected to not only the person I am replying to, but to countless others as well. This is a certainty when posting on public forums. Therefore, my the fullness of my response is primarily for the sake of giving a clarity in every possible way.
Secondly, know beyond all doubt, that I am fully aware of trolls roaming these boards as much as they do every other internet account I operate with. However, that awareness does not, in any way, prompt me to write with any less genuineness. Basically, my focus is not upon them; therefore, my intents is not directed towards them.
Next, please know that acknowledgement of the position of bondservant and prophetess by me is not for the sake of boasting in any form or fashion; especially in a sense of being superior to anyone else. As a matter of fact, the acknowledgement has nothing to do with me at all, but rather has everything to do with acknowledging the Lord God’s guidance in my speech. When I write of my own self I usually only end with giving recognition of my initials. When I write, with guidance being given by the Lord God’s Holy Spirit, I given recognition to Him by means of recognizing my position in Him.
Following that understanding I would like for you, and any others who are exposed to my responses, to know that holding the Prophetic Office does not rest upon the foundation of prophesying or receiving revelations by means of dreams and visions. Those are gifts and abilities that can be chosen to operate in anyone’s life; regardless if they hold a specific function or not. Therefore, anyone attempting to validate the position upon the grounds of gifts and god-given abilities is one to be concerned with. The Lord God raises up His Prophets and Prophetess’; therefore, validation comes by means of Him alone; it is not within the ability of the person, or anyone else for that fact. Now, because I hold firm to that truth, I rely wholly upon the Lord God and His Holy Spirit, to defend who I am in Him. So, if you, or anyone else, needs confirmation of who I am in Him, then let me suggest that you seek confirmation from the only One who can confirm. I know who I am in Him.
Also, as far as testing the spirits, believe me, being discipled in that, by the Lord God, has been so from the very beginning. However, if you should need encouragement in that factor being true with me, well, professing that there are those in the federal and military government both, who fully recognizes me as a ‘contactee,’ should suffice. Simply put, the Lord God had trained me to discern more than just spirits, and that fact is exactly why trolls are the least of my focus.
Now, as far as your beliefs toward the Old Testament (OT) and New Testament (NT), as well as your question pertaining to the Bible being all one should need, let me respond in this manner. First of all you are completely entitled to those beliefs, and I in not way seek to change them. If they are to change, it will be by means of God Himself. However, let me share, in defense of my beliefs, that it cannot be forgotten that Christ Himself stated He did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it to completeness; therefore, the guidance in the OT is just as necessary today as it was when the guidance was given. The favor of mercy given through Christ has not in any way changed the character of God; His Father. And as far as the Bible being all one should need, please know that all revelation of God, which includes His written Word, requires understanding to be given by Him. That is why His precious Holy Spirit is not an option; it is vital. God’s ways and thoughts are higher than mans, so how can any person claim to understand his ways without His help (Isaiah 55:8). It is this very reason that there are specific functions given; also known as titles. When the Lord God gives a title, He imparts an anointing.
Finally, as far as inconsistency in thoughts, interpretation of revelations on a psychology, and control being an illusion with the perception, well, I respond in this manner:
When it comes to inconsistency in thought, one should first look to the maturity in knowledge factor. Because one is not born with full maturity, one has to grow into it; regardless of the means that maturity comes to be. This factor gives a solid foundation of inconsistency in thought being a reality; regardless of age. Because thought processes continually change; inconsistency is continually seen. Secondly, I can state with certainty, that inconsistency in thoughts will elevate to higher levels when one becomes a child of God. This is based upon the fact that when a person is adopted by God, His Holy Spirit indwells them, and spiritual maturity begins; which includes exposure to opposition of wicked spiritual forces. So as you can see, inconsistency in thought will be an automation on a natural foundations because of natural maturity processes, and inconsistency in thought will be with believers because of spiritual maturity processes. For truly the Spirit and the flesh are in constant conflict (opposition) of each other.
When it comes to interpretation of revelations on a psychology foundation, well, until that foundation is willing to give rightful recognition towards spiritual factors, then all I can say is that many interpretations are possible. The Lord God sees each person for the individual and complete person they are, and are not. Therefore, when revelation is given by God, those factors will not be forgotten; thus allowing interpretation of His revelation to solely be within His abilities. Psychology does not do that, because psychology conforms people; thus conforming understanding.
When it comes to control being an illusion within the perception, well Murphy’s law is correct. How can anyone have confidence of control when they have not been given sovereign authority. Consider Newton’s Law which gives recognition to every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Sovereign authority not only has control over the first action, but also has control over every equal and opposite reaction. No life-form has ever accomplished that; even since the beginning days of each life-form.
Finally, know this with all certainty, lucid dreams can come by means of many foundations; some of which are natural stresses, God-given, entity given, and the ability of mankind’s to program. Because this is a reality, it is important that one trusts not in the ability of creations, regardless of means, but rather in the One who brought forth the ability to create on all foundations in the first place. That is truly using discernment.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
Please overlook the typo’s.
The first sentence should say, “no problem with giving understanding.”
Second paragraph sentence should say “therefore, the fullness; not my the.”
Seventh paragraph sentence should say “He is vital, not it is vital,” and “His should be capitalized both times when I gave reference to Isaiah 55:8.”
Eight paragraph sentence should say ‘psychology foundation.”
Ninth paragraph sentence should say “automatic; not automation.”
Thank you,
CMT
That was a lot of reading. I hope you’ll pardon the intrusion, ‘prophetess’, but I couldn’t help noticing you neglected to answer the only question Scanner Darko asked you for which I greatly anticipated reading your answer.
You didn’t answer whether or not you tested the spirits when you received your ‘anointing.’ If you did test them, by what means were they tested? And, if you wouldn’t mind sharing, what were the results of those means once employed?
You do realize that by way of circumventing a very specific query, you pointed to the Federal Government (US?) and the military (US?) and said in effect: ‘they can vouch for me.’
One would be hard put upon to name even a single, genuine, prophet (or prophetess) from the Old or New Testament Scriptures, who would ever admit the slightest connection, no matter how tenuous, with either of the entities you just invoked.
I eagerly await your detailed response to the above question, which now you have been asked twice.
The really, really sad thing is when people (especially women), don’t realize that the very people that are the proponents and advocators of animus towards gay people do not realize that animus towards gay people is actually rooted in misogyny. Thus, very often the very ones that advance animus towards gay people would–if given the slightest chance also advance animus towards women, feminine personalities, and femininity as a concept.
Gee, things that make you go, hmm?
Hello Walter,
This is a response to your question and statements below. Please know that I am responding by means of a whole new tread because someone has determined that I should not reply to your posting directly; for that person has remove the ‘reply’ tab from under your comment.
Now as far as your statement of me not answering the question pertaining to me discerning spirits, Well, I did. This was my specific response, ” Also, as far as testing the spirits, believe me, being discipled in that, by the Lord God, has been so from the very beginning” (CMT, 2015). As you can see I clearly acknowledged that training being incorporated in my raising up, for the discerning of spirits, was even from the beginning. As far as the further details that you seek, well, here is my response. And please know that unfortunately you are going to have to do more reading. Whereas I know that many despise the fact of having to read, it is a foundation in which being educated is firmly recognized and rooted.
To begin with the Lord first made me aware of the Gift of Discernment being chosen to operate in my life. It is a Holy Spirit gifting that operates on two levels; with those levels being discernment of motives, and discernment of spirits. This is a most difficult gifting to operate in; regardless of how long one has operated in it. The difficulty mainly arises out of the fact, that with its operation, one learns to made proper judgments upon the foundation of being naturally blinded in one’s primary senses of sight and touch. Truly one cannot see or touch motives of the heart, or physically see and touch spirits, unless the choice is made for them to by the person, entity, or spirit.
Since that is an undeniable factor, one is then taught behavioral characteristics so that a proper association can be made; thus proper judgments, or assessments, can come forth. You see, just like the psychology foundation of associating behavioral actions and patterns with specific traits in people, the same is done with spirits and entities; with the only exception being that the consideration of outward factors (influence of spirits and entities) is also distinguished. For my actual training in the discernment of spirits and entities, I first learned roots of specific traits and behavior patterns, as well as why such implementation were made; with that learning being outside of an association towards any particular person, spirit, or entity. Basically, I learned the foundations of traits and motives (inward factors), and behavior patterns (outward factors); without having any particular association to spirit, entity, or person. It was a generalized learning. This learning came my means of divine revelation.
Once I learned those basic foundations, I then began to be taught in associating those traits, motives, and behavioral patterns with spirits and entities on a general foundation; who, by the way, clearly have a different emitting of energy. This also was done by means of divine revelation; with the divine revelation often coming by means of dreams, visions, and the Word of Wisdom and Word of Knowledge Holy Spirit gifting’s. The usage of divine revelation was necessary in the beginning due to my spiritual immaturity and need of protection. Once associations were established by those means, I was then able to recognize (discern) foundations of traits, motives, and behavioral patterns with an energy foundation alone; outside of a flesh (natural) connection.
After that learning was established, I then began the learning of traits, motives, and behavioral patterns coming to be within peoples by means of influence from spirits and entities, as well as those factors being evident within peoples without the factor of influence. Because those factors can come to be by both foundations, I was taught to discern upon the foundation of energy being emitted. Truly I tell you that the emitting of energy can be just as specific as ones DNA. Therefore, the evidence of multiple energies, or the lack of multiple energies, in an environment, or around a person, enables one to discern the origin of the trait, motive, or behavioral pattern.
Now, once that learning was established, I then began the process of learning specific spirits and entities. For clarity purposes, please know that entities is another terminology used for the recognizing of heavenly hosts; which are also known as aliens. Also, please do know that all entities are under the sovereign authority of the Lord God; even if they are rebellious to His authority. Now, here is a list of the spirits I have learned of thus far:
Lying spirit (misleading and promotes disinformation -1 Kings 22:21-23), spirit of disobedience (promotes rebellion – Ephesians 2:2), spirit of whoredom (promotes prostitution – Hosea 4:12), spirit of slumber (promotes sleep – Romans 11:8), spirit of heaviness (promotes depression, etc – Isaiah 61:3), spirit of bondage (promotes forms of captivity – Romans 11:15), wounded spirit (promotes non-trust – Proverbs 18:14), evil spirit (promotes all forms of wickedness – 1 Samuel 16:14), unclean spirit (promotes all kinds of general wrong doings – Matthew 12:43), spirit of deep sleep (hinders the ability to receive revelation by means of dreams and visions – Isaiah 29:10), spirit of anti-Christ (promotes outright hatred of the purposes of Christ – 2 John 4:3), spirit of error and spirit of truth (reveals truth and error according to the Gospel – 1 John 4:6), spirit of divination (promotes witchcraft, sorcery, magic, etc. – Acts 16:16), spirit of infirmity (promotes sickness – Luke 13:10-17), seducing spirit (entices – 1 Timothy 4:1), jealous spirit (promotes control issues – Numbers 5:14), sorrowful spirit (promotes regret/remorse and abnormal grief – 1 Samuel 1:15), perverse spirit (promotes perversity; including sexual perversity – Isaiah 19:14), familiar spirits (spirits of dead people – Leviticus 20:27),
deaf and dumb spirits (binds one from understanding spiritual factors – Mark 9:17, 25), spirit of fear (promotes fear in every form – 2 Timothy 1:7), spirit of lust (promotes covetness for knowledge, possessions, status, etc. – James 4:5), spirit of Egypt (promotes worldliness – Isaiah 19:3), spirit of pride (promotes exaltation – Proverbs 16:18), and the spirit of demons (promotes possession – Revelation 16:14). Now please know that the promotion I gave with each of these spirits is only a general acknowledgment. There are many behaviors that can arise within the general foundation.
With the learning of specific spirits, a simultaneous awareness in specific heavenly hosts; entities/aliens, also came to be. When learning of them, the foundation was the same; the distinguishing of traits, motives, and behavioral patterns. You see, along with all of that learning, so that I can properly discern, I also began the learning processes of knowledge in the Word of God. This learning was vital to all the other learnings, because without knowledge in the Bible one does not have a foundation for comparison. Basically, to discern whether or not a spirit, person, or entity was operating in the will of God, one had to know the will and ways of God.
Finally, you are correct in your recognizing of my statement that the government ‘could’ vouch for me. Just know though, that is not an automatic that there would be a vouching for. Surely you would know that one does not claim the title that I possess, or operate in what I operate in, without those in certain positions of government knowing and keeping tabs upon them. Also, Abraham was the first Prophet of the Lord God to acknowledge government connections. Do not think for one second that just because details are not given into all the interaction, that the connection is not acknowledged. The Pharaohs were a form of government in those days; even though they did not govern God’s people. The same is so with Moses. Contrary to modern day beliefs, prophets of God have always been connected to the governments of their days; the Lord God Himself makes sure of this.
Amos 3:6-7, “When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing
without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets” (NKJV, 1982).
Scripture taken from the New King James Version. Copyright 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
Anybody claiming “prophet” status is liable to being tested. Its not that I don’t trust you, personally, but I don’t trust any human. I’m ok……don’t need or want your input. There’s nothing you can add……..It is finished.
Tested, not tempted; there is a difference; even though struggle in recognizing the difference has been just as evident in all lifeforms as the actual implementation of testing. This is not a problem with the Lord God, and He above all tests His prophets; it is called refining one by putting them through the fire.
And as far as your trust issues, well it is by your own choices that coping or overcoming comes to be. Just like it is within your right of choice to not expose yourself to any insight poured through me. Just know that your approval or disapproval of my pouring out is insignificant; since I was not raised up to serve you.
Thank you,
CMT
If you are so close to the Most High, why do you keep referring to Him with the pagan title “Lord God”.
Do you know His Name? Or is not important for us to actually use His Name? Your thoughts?
To me, to negate someone’s name on this earth is to refuse to allow his or her identity, and is to try to remove their identity from them, to obfuscate the real I.D. of that person, or to mislead, and can also be done for an insult to that person, to lessen the importance of or to degrade the dignity of that human being. How does the Most High feel about this? Again, your thoughts?
Surely you understand the suspicion about your claims: the prophetess and bondservant stuff, the federal and military references (so called)…
As such, I’m not concerned with all the titles given to you by ‘entity’ (like “Gift of Discernment” = circle speak, avoiding the glaring issues with your story).
I’m asking how you tested this ‘entity’, your “Lord God”, as WALTER re-pointed out, and as you didn’t really answer, again. You just washed it over with another diatribe.
WALTER said, “I wasn’t really interested whether you tested the spirits personally. Neither was Scanner Darko if I’m not mistaken. It’s pretty clear we both already know the answer to that query. What we were doing was testing YOUR spirit. You’ve just been tested. And you’ve told us everything we need to know.”
That’s what discernment smells like.
“Just know that your approval or disapproval of my pouring out is insignificant; since I was not raised up to serve you.”
Spoken like a true false prophetess.
A true prophet is a servant of the rest:
“The greatest among you will be your servant.”
— Matthew 23:11
With all due respect Miss Understand2014,
a true prophet/prophetess would feed the sheep (see JOHN 21:17). What have you served up? If it wasn’t for obfuscation and gobbledygook, you wouldn’t have served up anything at all.
And in these end times, unlike you, a true prophet/prophetess would speak plainly about our Father who art in heaven (see JOHN 16:25).
And unlike you, a true prophet/prophetess would know the test of which the fellas here have spoken of and would have been forthright with their answer to it.
No disrespect m’am, but given the above, and given the fine job of flushing out your folly by the fellas here on BIN, I will, and I must, issue the following critical alert for you Miss Understand2014:
The ‘prophetess’ wrote:
“…that person has remove the ‘reply’ tab from under your comment.”
Powers of discernment, madam. The lion’s share of contributors here have figured their way past that technicality. Follow the trail.
You wrote:
“Now as far as your statement of me not answering the question pertaining to me discerning spirits, Well, I did.”
No, madam. You did not. Here is the question you were asked originally by Scanner Darko:
“…let me ask, did you test the spirit? (Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits). If your answer is yes, then will you explain how?”
If your answer is yes, then will you explain how…
Your ‘answer’ was no answer at all. What you wrote was incoherent and did nothing to answer a very direct question. You dodged the question in your acknowledgement of the question. You said you have been ‘discipled’ in testing the spirits, but you failed to answer the very specific question of whether or not you DID test the spirits at the time in question. Beyond failing to answer the yes or no question, you neglected to offer any specifics with respect to your methods. But you continue the discussion, so let’s see whether any answers have been forthcoming.
“And please know that unfortunately you are going to have to do more reading. Whereas I know that many despise the fact of having to read, it is a foundation in which being educated is firmly recognized and rooted.”
I rather enjoy reading, madam. Reading is for me the vehicle by which I hone my spiritual skills, according to the Word. Above when I remarked about your volume, I never said anything to impugn reading itself. Look for another meaning.
“Since that is an undeniable factor…”
That’s a conclusion as yet unwarranted.
“This learning came my means of divine revelation.”
You again make bold claims. You lack nothing in that department. Whether you lack elsewhere is the topic of interest for this discussion – though maybe not for you.
“Truly I tell you that the emitting of energy can be just as specific as ones DNA.”
That statement carried with it more than a faint whiff of New Age teaching.
“Therefore, the evidence of multiple energies, or the lack of multiple energies, in an environment, or around a person, enables one to discern the origin of the trait, motive, or behavioral pattern.”
And isn’t that straight out of ‘A Course in Miracles’?
“Also, please do know that all entities are under the sovereign authority of the Lord God; even if they are rebellious to His authority.”
Thank you for sharing that. But I study the Scriptures so I’m already aware.
“…without knowledge in the Bible one does not have a foundation for comparison.”
A statement on which we can both agree.
“Basically, to discern whether or not a spirit, person, or entity was operating in the will of God, one had to know the will and ways of God.”
A bold and flagrant contradiction of the written Word.
“Also, Abraham was the first Prophet of the Lord God to acknowledge government connections.”
I would ask you for scriptural backing for that statement, but I won’t hope too highly for your acquiescence in providing any.
“The Pharaohs were a form of government in those days; even though they did not govern God’s people.”
Partaking in conversation with government officials is not the same thing as invoking governmental authorities as character references. Not even close, madam.
So you juke, jive, shimmy and shiver, but you don’t answer. Want to know why I was interested in the first place? Because the question had more to do with you and about you than you have perceived. I wasn’t really interested whether you tested the spirits personally. Neither was Scanner Darko if I’m not mistaken. It’s pretty clear we both already know the answer to that query. What we were doing was testing YOUR spirit. You’ve just been tested. And you’ve told us everything we need to know.
Thank you Walter once again for your reply, and here is mine.
First of all, my learning the technical knowledge of countering the obstacles, as the lion’s share of contributors on this website has learned to do, is not necessary. My ability to work around the obstacle was clearly successful; since you obtained and responded.
Secondly, I dodged no such question, but only did not respond fully due to overlooking the specificness He asked for. Because it was an unintentional overlooking, which mainly came forth because I was scrolling back in forth from reading his comment to writing my response, the accusation of dodging the question is wrong. If you operated on the level of discerning motives, then you and him both, would have known it was an unintentional act. My motives being as I have stated is clearly revealed by me responding with the details previously sought out by Scanner Darko; once the overlooking was brought to my attention.
Thirdly, if you are as meticulous as you have revealed, you would know that when I respond to any posting, I respond with the understanding of more people, than the immediate one I am reply to, being exposed to what I share. Therefore, it is necessary to compensate for the added elements of natural interaction (body language and tone of voice), which are voided out by means of written communication, by applying terminology with multiple meaning. This is an analytical skill I apply, which you are fully aware of, because I have made you aware of it.
With that being said, you, not others, should have seen my statement pertaining to reading as follows, “read into the terminology you are reading. Don’t despise it as many (plural usage which gives recognition to more than just you) have, for truly the base (foundation) of receiving (being educated) is firmly seen and rooted” (CMT, 2015). Or in other words, understand it according to Mark 4:9-12, “And He said to them, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear!” But when He was alone, those around Him with the twelve asked Him about the parable. And He said to them, “To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, so that ‘Seeing they may see and not perceive, and hearing they may hear and not understand; lest they should turn,
and their sins be forgiven them” (NKJV, 1982).
Ultimately, it cannot be denied that what can be absorbed by what is spoken, even in written form, is way more than just what is actually spoken. Next, I do not see how you can state that the conclusion of this statement is unjustifiable, “Truly one cannot see or touch motives of the heart, or physically see and touch spirits, unless the choice is made for them to by the person, entity, or spirit” (CMT, 2015). Motives, or intents, of the heart are not tangible. Therefore, they cannot be seen or touched, whether physically or emotionally, without the choice being made by the person, spirit, or entity. Now I know of such methods to see and obtain motives as so-called ‘truth serum’ and ‘hypnosis,’ but those methods are highly questionable due to the fact of the persons will, or choice, is altered, and outward influence is applied. And as far as spirits being seen or touched, even with the best of technology, it is not possible unless the possibility is given by the spirit.
It is written in Proverbs 3:26, “For the Lord will be your confidence, and will keep your foot from being caught” (NKJV, 1982). Do know that I boast not in myself, but in who I am in Him. This is a confidence established by Him; not me. Also, do know that a person does not perceive lack within themselves unless they have placed themselves in a position of self-challenge or being challenged by another; something I constantly stand in, so do not hesitate to share with me the ‘lacks’ you are others might perceive with me, for no offense will be taken.
It is written in Luke 8:46, “But Jesus said, “Somebody touched Me, for I perceived power going out from Me” (NKJV, 1982). Jesus is old-school not New Age, and He was one who was very open in giving recognition to power, or energy, being recognized; whether it was within Himself or others. Tell me, how can power, or energy, be perceived unless it is a factor of one’s being?
As far as my comment of “Also, please do know that all entities are under the sovereign authority of the Lord God; even if they are rebellious to His authority” please know it was express with the intents of affirming my belief; though it does please me to know that we are in agreement with that statement, and the following one you gave recognition to.
Please expand, give further details, for this statement please, ““Basically, to discern whether or not a spirit, person, or entity was operating in the will of God, one had to know the will and ways of God.” A bold and flagrant contradiction of the written Word. I would like to know how it is a contradiction to the written Word.
Pertaining to Abraham, read, and read into, Genesis 12:10-20. Notice how Abraham was aware of the customs of the Pharaoh; even before he actually dwelt in Egypt. Abraham knew of his exercised authority (governing authority) because the Lord made sure he knew. Also, notice how the Pharaoh knew the plagues were due to Abraham and Sarai, and not something else. The Pharaoh knew because the Lord God made him aware of who Abraham was; as well as who Sarai was. That is called divine revelation. Finally, notice how the Pharaoh did not respond to the awareness he came to, with Abraham and Sarai, according to his governing authority. Why did he not just kill Abraham and Sarai? Why did he not take back all that Abraham had acquired in Egypt; especially since it was given for the sake of Sarai? So as you can see, Abraham clearly acknowledged being connected to the governing authority of Pharaoh (established government at that time in Egypt), because if he had not, it would not be known.
Know this with all certainty, I have not invoked any government official as a character reference; in no conversations. I only, very boldly, made this statement, “Also, as far as testing the spirits, believe me, being discipled in that, by the Lord God, has been so from the very beginning. However, if you should need encouragement in that factor being true with me, well, professing that there are those in the federal and military government both, who fully recognizes me as a ‘contactee,’ should suffice.” As you can see, I only stated that the professing of me being considered a contactee, should ‘encourage’ one to know that testing spirits is an act that is true to me. I do not call myself a contactee, I call myself who I am; a Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High. Why would anyone give recognition of an ability within me if they knew not of the ability in the first place? And what does recognizing one for an ability have anything to do with recognizing ones character? People who have rotten characters can possess the same ability I have.
Finally, you and all others, need to ask yourselves these questions, and please do post the response. Truly transparency is an characteristic trait that is to be admired.
While you were testing my spirit, just what exactly did each of you reveal about your own spirits?
Did you find out anything that I did not want any of you, or anyone else for that matter, to know?
What have I revealed in this response that any of you had a lack in knowing by means of the first two responses? Or do y’all have the same capabilities of Hogner on Criminal Minds; that you can have one conversation with a person and have a confident knowing of that person?
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
Hello, CMT (MyStand2014), and welcome aboard. It looks to me like you imagine you’ve seen all there is to see with regards interweb trolls on public forums and if that’s the case, boy, are you in for a surprise.
You find yourself among brethren who hold, very dear, the literal Word of God and who study Scripture in the original languages. If they were men of the world they would be learned scholars and theologians and it’s a certainty, at the very least, that they’ll easily keep up with the conversation.
Having established you’re not talking to the average idiot i hope you had the decency to regret over explaining the distinction between a prophet and prophetess but given your crusade to reach the great unwashed/unlearned i doubt it. Either way you’ll just have to accept our umbrage at being spoken down to.
What’s with the sermon on the OT still being applicable? We all know that not one jot or tittle will be done away with till heaven and earth pass. (Matt 5:18 – Luke 16:17)
Then there’s the lecture on interweb trollism that wasn’t relevant to the conversation in any way. Scanner Darko was admitting that we are the trolls not asking if you knew what one was. More reading and less frenetic, knee jerk, typing if you please. Speaking of frenzied ramblings (is that oxymoronic) about half of what you write requires a considerable amount of re-reading due to not making a lick of sense. A little respect if you would be so kind.
I note that you can only support your claim that Abraham was in bed with the government, of the day, by reading into Scripture. Well now this is where the surprise, i mentioned earlier, will start to become apparent. We don’t do that and especially when we are unable to find a second witness for our arguments. Where’s yours? Knowing of Pharoah’s ways and systems and aligning with or tacitly supporting him, or them, are two completely different things. You were asked if you knew of any express Bible passages that backed up your statement not whether or not you could make a case based on reading into The Inspired Word.
Finally it is noted that you lecture on the dangers of presumption all the while presuming that WALTER was complaining about your verbosity when he only mentioned, by way of observation, the prolificy of your discourse.
Please don’t be distracted by my comment, especially my fondness for making up words that aren’t even real, treat my questions as rhetorical, and instead busy yourself with answering that which has been put to you several times now.
keep up the good work mystand. hope to hear more of your input.
ACTS 22: 14 -15 But he said; (Ananias ) The God of our fathers hath preordained thee that thou shouldst know his will , and see the just one , and shouldst hear the voice from his mouth.
For thou shalt be his witness to all men, of those things which thou hast seen and heard.
I believe you answered fairly, when you discussed “the word of wisdom, and word of knowledge the Holy Spirits gifting “
“…you obtained and responded.”
I have. And I enjoyed reading your well-worded retort. Touché.
“Secondly, I dodged no such question, but only did not respond fully due to overlooking the specificness He asked for.”
Is that so? Well don’t think it lost on many, if any, that to this point you have yet to give your answer. Several folks here waste no time backing other commenters onto shaky grounds and asking pointed questions which those other commenters would prefer not to answer. But it was your unfortunate stroke of luck (if there were such a thing) to land where you did, and attract the attention you’ve now attracted. Can you feel the many eyes on you now, sister? Most of them you’ll not even hear from.
“Because it was an unintentional overlooking…”
No it wasn’t. We both, Scanner and I, knew from the outset you would dodge the question. The fact is that you don’t know how to respond to the question without revealing things about yourself you would rather not reveal. But as Mayhem has now shared with you, you’re not dealing with novices.
“If you operated on the level of discerning motives, then you and him both, would have known it was an unintentional act.”
Au contraire, ma sœur. I find nothing unintentional about your deflection.
“…I respond with the understanding of more people, than the immediate one I am reply to…”
Join the club of the most of us who post commentary here. There’s nothing unique about that, I assure you. I think you’re over-tickled with yourself. An inauspicious augury for your footing moving forward.
“This is an analytical skill I apply, which you are fully aware of, because I have made you aware of it.”
Thank you for making me aware.
“But when He was alone, those around Him with the twelve asked Him about the parable.”
Did you just tell me you answered our query via parable? If you did, you’re dangerously close to slipping into full disingenuosity. (I too can invent words.)
“Ultimately, it cannot be denied that what can be absorbed by what is spoken, even in written form, is way more than just what is actually spoken.”
That’s rather an incoherent statement. I read it thus: You think you can baffle me by suggesting I’ve overlooked your answer on account of (mis)reading into your glorious words. Time will tell.
“Truly one cannot see or touch motives of the heart, or physically see and touch spirits, unless the choice is made for them to by the person, entity, or spirit”
Another poorly-worded statement. You’re conflating ideas and you’re mingling valid concepts with brash speculation. Mix it all together and what comes out the other end will be no kind of tasty confectionary. Are folks usually mesmerized by your verbose irregularities? Maybe it’s just because they think you’re clever and they better just nod their heads in agreement so they don’t feel stupid or left out. Forgive me sister, I’m not sentimental.
“And as far as spirits being seen or touched, even with the best of technology, it is not possible unless the possibility is given by the spirit.”
I’m not qualified to dispute that statement.
“Do know that I boast not in myself, but in who I am in Him.”
I know nothing of the kind. As I say, I think you think too highly of yourself and you make it very apparent. Moreover, you have crafted a good cover story, an excuse, for boasting without boasting. How’s that working out for you so far?
“This is a confidence established by Him; not me.”
Again, that would better be demonstrated by answering our question. You bear witness about yourself. Do you know what that means?
“…do not hesitate to share with me the ‘lacks’ you [or?] others might perceive with me, for no offense will be taken.”
Duly noted. You lack the ability to answer pointed and direct questions.
“Jesus is old-school…”
Borderline slanderous, sister. Careful. I think I know what you’re saying but prudence is the word. Do you know what a ‘school’ is?
“Tell me, how can power, or energy, be perceived unless it is a factor of one’s being?”
I will answer any question you put to me once you, likewise, have consented to answer the questions put to you. But until you answer, I do not consent to be questioned.
Of my earlier comment:
“A bold and flagrant contradiction of the written Word.”
…you said:
“I would like to know how it is a contradiction to the written Word.”
I will tell you this and no more, until you have first answered our question: There are specific guidelines given within the written Word for conducting a test of the spirits. What you say and what Scripture records are not the same. Contingent upon your giving a full answer to all parts of the question put to you, I will offer you a more complete explanation later on in our conversation.
Mayhem has aptly addressed your points about Abraham. No need for me to expound further.
“As you can see, I only stated that the professing of me being considered a contactee, should ‘encourage’ one to know that testing spirits is an act that is true to me.”
That is utter nonsense. Whether or not you have been contacted by spirits does nothing one way or the other to disclose the character of those spirits, assuming you ever were contacted. We seek to prove all things, sister. We’re ordered to by His Commandment. You do know that, don’t you? So here you are making bold claims. And you are being proven. We are abiding by the rules. You are deflecting and obfuscating a legitimate and Legal investigation.
“And what does recognizing one for an ability have anything to do with recognizing ones character?”
Because if you make it your habit to welcome contact from demons, then you’re in league with the Enemy. Was that too blunt? That’s what’s at stake here. Or you could be lying. Or you could be genuinely in special contact with our Boss. Just remember, by not answering our questions, you are answering our questions.
“While you were testing my spirit, just what exactly did each of you reveal about your own spirits?”
We revealed to you who we are. I do not think you like who we are.
“Did you find out anything that I did not want any of you, or anyone else for that matter, to know?”
You will have your answer only and if… and I will not be asking again. One way or another, we will have your answer. It would be most helpful for you and for us if you would consent to OFFER your answer.
As WALTER shows in his long, rambling, senseless SPAM COMMENTS ON THIS Post,
Christian values convey a message of submission towards evil.
The forgiveness and acceptance of human atrocities without any ad vented repercussions for such acts.
There is a universal law that is being purposely erased from the human psyche, which implies common sense retaliation against those that wish harm onto our human brethren.
Our planet is a jewel, humanities greatest possession. Apathy towards its safety and value is slowly being indoctrinated into the masses. Making the strong passive, thus we turn a blind eye towards a critical thinking mechanism the brilliant have been gifted from an unknown cosmic inheritance.
Our natural instincts for survival are being muddled with an overload of useless information, creating mass confusion. extreme mental stress that is wearing down our will, making us think our unwritten fate is already set in stone.
To follow the path of WALTER will assure your physical, as well as Spiritual, destruction!
Avoid reading his Comments.
Oh looky, more whining about being prevented from persecuting a minority group. Your so claimed “Domino Effect ” is where Christians are proving themselves to be whiny arsed liars.
Hello Scanner Darko, and thank you for your response once again; as well as the questions within it. Here is my reply:
First of all, do know that even though I will not profess that I am as close to the Most High as I ought to be, I will profess that I walk before Him daily; with the intents of becoming closer and closer to Him.
Secondly, please know, according to my spiritual beliefs, which are given to me by God Himself, Lord God is not a pagan title. Lord God is a combined terminology title which gives recognition to both Christ and God simultaneously. Lord is a title of Christ, and God is God’s original title. When Lord God is used, recognition is given to both Christ and God. It is like acknowledging (praying) to God in the name of Jesus. However, the title of Jesus is not used because Christ/Lord was not born of flesh yet, and His earthly name Jesus (Emmanuel) was not yet established. It cannot be forgotten that Christ was in the beginning. This is confirmed in John 1 by the paralleling of Christ to the Word (Word spoken forth by God). Now, by the time the second man’s was created, the second beginning (Genesis 2), Christ is recognized through the terminology title of Lord; instead of the Word. This is why the apostles called Christ Jesus Lord in the New Testament (NT). They knew He was speaking truth about being in the beginning; even before Abraham was (John 8:58). You see, the Word = Lord = Christ = Jesus (Emmanuel).
Now, as far as me knowing the Most High’s name. Yes I do. He is my Abba Father. He is God; my God. Let me show you what I am speaking of. In Daniel 4, King Nebuchadnezzar received a revelation in which the ‘watchers,’ or ‘holy ones’ issued a decree. In the decree, the ‘watchers/holy ones’ recognized the decree as an upholding of the Most High. This is confirmed in verse 14. Here is the verse according to two translations, “
יד בִּגְזֵרַת עִירִין פִּתְגָמָא, וּמֵאמַר קַדִּישִׁין שְׁאֵלְתָא; עַד-דִּבְרַת דִּי יִנְדְּעוּן חַיַּיָּא דִּי-שַׁלִּיט עליא (עִלָּאָה) בְּמַלְכוּת אנושא (אֲנָשָׁא), וּלְמַן-דִּי יִצְבֵּא יִתְּנִנַּהּ, וּשְׁפַל אֲנָשִׁים, יְקִים עליה (עֲלַהּ). The matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the sentence by the word of the holy ones; to the intent that the living may know that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will, and setteth up over it the lowest of men” (Mamre, M. 2005).
As you can see, the Most High is a title given to God by the ‘watchers/holy ones.’ God and the Most High are One. This is confirmed in Daniel 5:18, 21 when Daniel, a prophet of God, gives recognition to God and the Most High in a combined terminology title: God Most High / Most High God. The verse reads as follows, “
יח אנתה (אַנְתְּ), מַלְכָּא; אֱלָהָא, עליא (עִלָּאָה), מַלְכוּתָא וּרְבוּתָא וִיקָרָא וְהַדְרָא, יְהַב לִנְבֻכַדְנֶצַּר אֲבוּךְ.
O thou king, God Most High gave Nebuchadnezzar thy father the kingdom, and greatness, and glory, and majesty” (Mamre, M., 2005).
כא וּמִן-בְּנֵי אֲנָשָׁא טְרִיד וְלִבְבֵהּ עִם-חֵיוְתָא שוי (שַׁוִּיו), וְעִם-עֲרָדַיָּא מְדֹרֵהּ, עִשְׂבָּא כְתוֹרִין יְטַעֲמוּנֵּהּ, וּמִטַּל שְׁמַיָּא גִּשְׁמֵהּ יִצְטַבַּע: עַד דִּי-יְדַע, דִּי-שַׁלִּיט אֱלָהָא עליא (עִלָּאָה) בְּמַלְכוּת אֲנָשָׁא, וּלְמַן-דִּי יִצְבֵּא, יְהָקֵים עליה (עֲלַהּ). and he was driven from the sons of men, and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses; he was fed with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; until he knew that God Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and that He setteth up over it whomsoever He will” (Mamre, M., 2005).
Now please know that this combined terminology usage is not like Lord God; for in it God the Father and God the Son are both being recognized. With God Most High combined terminology usage, only God is being recognized. Both titles are combined by the Prophet Daniel to give recognition to the titling of God as the Most High by the ‘watchers/holy ones’; while still giving recognition to God’s self-given title of God.
Now, as far as the attempts to take away any human beings name, regardless of the methods used, whether it is the name (title) given by the parents, or the name (title) given to them by God, well, I do not uphold it. How does anyone think that they have the right to discredit a given name when they partook not in the person coming into existence; nor partook of the giving of the anointing? And as far as the Most High’s thoughts towards the same being done with His name(s), well, I will refer to Isaiah 48:9-11. The verses reads as follows, according to both translations, “
ט לְמַעַן שְׁמִי אַאֲרִיךְ אַפִּי, וּתְהִלָּתִי אֶחֱטָם-לָךְ–לְבִלְתִּי, הַכְרִיתֶךָ. For My name’s sake will I defer Mine anger, and for My praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off.
י הִנֵּה צְרַפְתִּיךָ, וְלֹא בְכָסֶף; בְּחַרְתִּיךָ, בְּכוּר עֹנִי. Behold, I have refined thee, but not as silver; I have tried thee in the furnace of affliction.
יא לְמַעֲנִי לְמַעֲנִי אֶעֱשֶׂה, כִּי אֵיךְ יֵחָל; וּכְבוֹדִי, לְאַחֵר לֹא-אֶתֵּן. {פ} For Mine own sake, for Mine own sake, will I do it; for how should it be profaned? And My glory will I not give to another.{P}(Mamre, M., 2005).
As you can see, the God does not have a problem in defending His own name; no more than He has a problem defending the names (titles) He Himself gives. Also, as far as people being suspicious, well, that is a right they have. However, it must be realized that a person embracing the right to be suspicious does not automatically give them the right to take unjust actions against a person; like attempting to remove a name (title) they did not give in the first place.
With your reference to the titles such as the Gift of Discernment, please know that is not a title given to me; or anyone else for that fact. It is a title of a Gift of the Holy Spirit. These gifting’s are chosen to operate through people’s lives. There are nine Holy Spirit gifting’s, and they are acknowledged in 1 Corinthians 12:8-11. The verses reads as follows, “for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He will” (NKJV, 1982).
Now, please know, once again, that I did not evade the question. I did not realize that you were acknowledging the Lord God as an entity that needed to be tested. You might consider the Lord God an entity, but I do not. He is Spirit, and He is the Creator of all that is. I know what I know about Him because He revealed Himself to me first and foremost, by a divine revealing, then He gives me constant revelation in Him by divine revelation; with that revelation being paralleled to His written Word. I know His voice because He discipled me to know His voice. I know the voice of His precious Holy Spirit, because he discipled me to know His voice. He has discipled me to recognize His voice just as much as He has discipled me to recognize voices that are not His. Now, in you, or any others for that fact, want to keep your perceptions that I am not speaking to God, or am a servant of God, then go ahead. But just know that I have no problems using my God’s written Word to defend myself.
Finally, if you want to discern by means of smell, then I suggest you do what is written in Hebrews 5:14. The verse reads as follows, “But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil”(NKJV, 1982). People are born with 6 natural senses; unless they are born without one of them, or loses one during their life. Those senses are sight, sound, touch, taste, smell, and intuition. All of these senses can be use on higher levels, if exercised, to discern good and evil.
I hope this helps to clarify. If you should have any more questions, do not hesitate to ask.
Sources cited:
Mamre, M. (2005). A hebrew – English bible. Retrieved from: http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0.htm.
Scripture taken from the New King James Version. Copyright 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
“Lord God is not a pagan title.”
Now even mattrick should know you’re full of (you know what). If mattrick hasn’t caught on yet, then that’s a serious testament to his own level of discernment. People like you prey on the weak and there is a good number of us watching you doing it right now.
Lord, God, Christ, and any combination of these three most certainly are pagan titles. Have you searched to see where these words come from?
Obviously not, but I’m sure you have plenty of words left to cheerfully wiggle through your excuses…
Can you find any of these titles in the original languages used for the Bible to support your position? (The Son of Man is a Messiah, not a Christ. Get your etymology right because they are two completely different things.)
God, derived from Gad, is pronounced ‘Gawd’.
“Gad was the name of the pan-Semitic god of fortune, and is attested in ancient records of Aram and Arabia. Gad is also mentioned by the Book of Isaiah (Isaiah 65:11 – some translations simply call him (the god of) Fortune), as having been worshipped by a number of Hebrews during the babylonian captivity.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gad_(deity)
As for the title ‘Lord’, many even see it synonymous with Ba’al. Google it, or ask your ‘anointer’ about it.
“Lord” or “Bel” was commonly used by the Babylonians, in relation to Marduk. But, generally speaking, it is a title, not a name. So you placing this title in front of a pan-Semitic deity’s name does not, in any way, give recognition to both the True Son and the Father.
So the title “Lord God” can directly be translated to say/mean: BA’AL GAD.
“Lord God is a combined terminology title which gives recognition to both Christ and God simultaneously.”
Does the Bible say this? Or do you say this? Be honest and stop making things up as you go.
“Lord is a title of Christ, and God is God’s original title”
ORIGINAL?
What about YHVH ELOHIM!!!? His Name, when deliberately mispronounced, is an attempt by men, who follow flawed traditions originally inspired by the enemy, to hide the true name(s) because in knowing and using in truth and spirit the True Name, we will benefit greatly. The Father-Creator’s Name is vital to use in His worship in truth and in spirit. Do you disagree?
However you choose to squirm, there is no talking yourself around the fact that the Most High’s Name is not ‘God’. It never was and it never will be. He does not change. You are being dishonest. For the Almighty Creator of all things, it can never be good to change His Name into another TITLE which is intended to mock Him. Why would this be alright?
You, the Christians, (remember, the Son of Man is a Messiah not a Christ), and religion in general, ignorant of the knowledge about the Sacred Names, have been deluded into believing that the Most High’s Name is ‘God’ or ‘Lord’. We simply should not use ‘God’ or ‘Lord’ as a title for the Most High, for in this habit lies much deceit, leaving us in bondage and restricted in spiritual growth. He has a Name. Use it, wisely, if you love Him (Hosea 2:16-18)
Then, there is the name “Jesus Christ”, which comes from the Greek idol “Je-Zeus Christos”.
You show no respect for the importance of Names.
And, since you are completely lacking wit and have just exhausted my patience with your mendacious lecture on “smells”, I will be nothing but short with you from here on out. My focus will for now be on your misuse of titles, simply to keep you from flooding the space on this web page with entirely unnecessary ramblings. Show some respect for your readers, will you?
Completely oblivious to the Titles of importance, and you expect people to believe that you regularly converse with the Most High? Sista please…
To all of those who prompted me with responses, please know that I am trying to post my responses; however, I have some very rude people who are preventing me from posting my responses in defense of myself. Do know that I will keep trying, but if they continue I will post my responses to another account, and provide the link.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
It’s a poor workman who blames his tools.
Hello am123, and thank you for you input. Now, here is my response:
First of all, please know that the understanding you are upholding towards Matthew 23:11, specifically towards the Prophetic Office, prophets and prophetess’, is not accurate. Let me explain. To begin with, I will share the verse you have referred to. It reads as follows, “But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant” (NKJV, 1982). Now, when bringing forth understanding, solely on that one verse of Scripture, it is easy to uphold your statement. However, Christ is teaching well above what you and most others perceive.
If you will backtrack in Scripture, to Matthew 18:1-5, you will read this, “At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me” (NKJV, 1982).
First notice the terminology usage of ‘at that time,’ It is specifically used to reveal that the disciples asked the question during the time of being in the temple; at which they were also confronted with paying the temple tax. Please read verses 24-27 to get the details, but do notice that Jesus gave reference to the kings of the earth; for the acknowledgement is significant because it was the kings of the earth ruling that led to the question of, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven” (NKJV, 1982). Basically, the acknowledgement of their rule placed them in the position of being recognized as the greatest on earth.
Therefore, the disciples wanted to know who then would be considered the greatest in the kingdom of heaven; since the kings of the earth was considered to be the greatest on earth. Jesus then responds with telling them that the greatest was those who are changed, which gives recognition to the second birth (spiritual birth), as well as become humble as a child, are considered the greatest. Basically, Jesus revealed that the children of God, who walked in the humility of children (dependency), are the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Now, keep that understanding in mind, and fast-forward back to Matthew 23:11; while also giving consideration to verses 1-10.
After Jesus teaches about the religious folks, He then reminds the people to remember their proper position as being children of God; as well as remember who teaches them. After those teachings and reminding’s, Jesus then makes the statement of “But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant” (NKJV, 1982). This was a confirmation to the previous knowledge of the kings of earth being the greatest on earth: “But he (the king), who is greatest among you (stands in a ruling position), shall be your servant” (NKJV, 1982). Jesus then follows up with making this statement, “And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted” (NKJV, 1982).
That follow-up statement is an affirmation to the previous statement, and should be read like this, “and whoever (kings of the earth) exalts (becomes proud or arrogant) himself will be brought down, and he (kings of the earth) who humbles himself (opposite of proud and arrogant) will be exalted (respected and honored in their authority). So as you can see, kings of the earth are placed in their position to be servants to the people. This Scripture has nothing to do with the Prophetic Office.
Now, as far as John 16 goes, I speak as I am guided to speak, when I am standing in Him. Those who have an ear to hear, will hear what the Spirit has to say; for it is by means of the Holy Spirit that their understanding is obtained, not mine. And please do remember that the disciples were apostles; not prophets. They were raised up to be church builders and teachers. Though there is no doubt that prophets and prophetesses teach, they are raised up for the sake of specific purposes, which usually center on orders of God and repentance (correction) while also enforcing specific messages. Prophets and prophetesses are not pastors; they correct the sheep more than they nurture them.
I hopes this helps with clarity purposes, and if you should have any more questions, please do ask.
Scripture taken from the New King James Version. Copyright 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
I do not agree with your take on being a servant of the rest. The greatest being a servant of the rest is a spiritual principle that applies to any office, be it prophet, pastor, evangelist, teacher, or whatever. Jesus was not referring to kings on earth when He talked about the greatest being a servant of the rest, He was referring to believers, for He was talking about who was greatest in the kingdom of God.
And speaking of prophets, you said “they correct the sheep more than they nurture them”. Correcting the sheep is not congruent with your previous statement to Max where you said “I was not raised up to serve you”. Correcting the sheep is serving them.
Hello am123
Thank you for your reply, and this is my take on being a servant:
When one serves the Lord God, they will automatically become a servant unto all; that is no doubt. However, that servitude only remains as long as that order is kept; the servant keeping their focus upon the Lord God, seeking out His will. When that order of serving is attempted to be reversed, whether by the servant themselves, or by outward influence, servitude is no longer established. This is so whether one is an Apostle, Prophet(ess), Evangelists, Pastor, Teacher, etc.
Too many people fail to realize this, and, even if unintentional, reverse the order. That is why so many church establishments are not led by the Holy Spirit. That is why so many Pastors are not able to teach as they ought to. That is why so many Prophets and Evangelists are refuted, or outright not welcomed with the messages they bring forth. People want servants of the Lord God to serve according to their terms; not the Lord God’s.
People speak as if servants of the Lord God are to be slaves unto them; upholding their every dictation, at the slightest whim. That is slavery. Servitude has nothing to do with slavery. Slaves are considered property; a commodity for the benefit of their owner. The Lord God does not bring His servants, or His children, into that worldly captivity. Nor does the Lord God treat His servants, or children, as hired help. Tending and feeding the sheep is not like being a housekeeper; where you earn a wage for your services.
Feeding the sheep, regardless of what servant of the Lord God does it, is bringing forth the light (message) that the Lord God, not board members, or church members, or leaders of the community, or politicians, or even kings (leaders) of nations, has given unto the servant; at His timing. Servants of the Lord God take orders from the Lord God when it comes to representing Him; not people. This is to remain so; regardless if it is liked or not.
Now, you have a right to disagree when it comes to the understanding I shared about who Christ was actually speaking of. However, do know that I sincerely pray that the Holy Spirit open your understanding; for I stand firm in the understanding He has led me to. And if it is pleasing to you, I would like to expand just a little more in the defense of my obtained understanding.
If you will read verse 1 of Matthew 23, you will see that Jesus was speaking not only to His disciples, but also to ‘the multitudes,’ when the comment of the greatest was made. You see, those others in that multitude might not have known why the statement was made, but His disciples would have, because of the previous teaching. You see, His statement brought forth more than one awareness; for there was a king listening in on His teaching. That is why the terminology usage of “he who is greatest among you” (NKJV, 1982). Read the statement as this, and you will see what I am speaking of, “but he (the king), who is greatest (reigns in natural authority) among you (in your midst) shall be your servant (is established for your sakes).
Finally, as far as my statement to Maxxy, it was not directed as you perceived. Here is a recall of what was stated to me, “Anybody claiming “prophet” status is liable to being tested. Its not that I don’t trust you, personally, but I don’t trust any human. I’m ok……don’t need or want your input. There’s nothing you can add……..It is finished” (Maxxy. 2015). Maxxy was expressing authority in the manner of an ultimatums: “liable to being tested” is a broad statement which can encourage wrongful actions. The Lord God has not called for me, or any of His servants to be tested just because we stand in a specific function. That is the ways of man. I did not fill out an application for my function in Him; I was chosen by Him, not the people who desire to test me. Then there is, “There is nothing you can add…..it is finished.” What if someone said that about Christ’s purposes. It would be like upholding all the works of Christ as being finished just because a specific purpose He stood in was finished (completed). You see what I am talking about. I told him that statement because the Lord God raised me to serve Him and His ways; not people who act like gods, and their ways. I was not correcting him, I was affirming to him whom I serve.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
“I was not correcting him, I was affirming to him whom I serve.”
Ah, that’s the question that lingers, isn’t it, the one whom you serve?
One thing we know for sure is who’s purposes you are serving on the pages of this thread. And far be it from me
to insinuate who that might be thru the use of an emoticon….. 
Excuse my goonish behavior, but it is not I that have turned the Word upside down so down is up and up is down.
When Jesus said the greatest among YOU shall be your servant, the YOU He was referring to was YOU who believe in Him, YOU who follow Him, YOU who are the branches on the Vine……capeesh?
Previously on these pages you said “If you should have any more questions, do not hesitate to ask”.
The only question that lingers here lady is this: do you wittingly or unwittingly serve you know who?
To cut to the chase, just answer the question from my good friend mattrick, who asked “JESUS CHRIST IS THE WORD MADE FLESH. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS”?
For the sake of the broader audience and any sheep that might have been hopefully only temporarily mislead by your obfuscating and phony wordsmith meandering ways
, an answer of “yes” to mattrick’s direct question means CMT unwittingly serves you know who. 
An answer of “no” means…..well….far be it from me
to make it clear through the use of emoticons who that would mean she wittingly serves
“Jesus then responds with telling them that the greatest was those who are changed…”
What is this, may I ask? What source does this come from? This doesn’t come from the Bible. How is it then that you pass it off as if it did?
“…which gives recognition to the second birth (spiritual birth), as well as become humble as a child…”
If that wasn’t you adding to the written Word sister, I’ll eat my hat.
“…and should be read like this…”
Were you given authority to change the Word? Because what you say Messiah taught in those verses, is not what Messiah taught.
“So as you can see, kings of the earth are placed in their position to be servants to the people.”
You said that with a straight face. Have you lived long in this world?
“This Scripture has nothing to do with the Prophetic Office.”
No. A prophet is a servant of the Most High. Therefore, the prophet is bound by all of the same Rules, Statutes, Ordinances, Instructions and Commandments as all of the other servants of the Most High. Your suggestion Messiah’s teaching had nothing to do with the prophetic office is nonsense.
“And please do remember that the disciples were apostles…”
Surely you mean the Apostles were Disciples. Almost all disciples are not apostles.
Why, it is the legendary (in his OWN mind) SPAM SUPREME, in disguise as an OLD Caucasian white-skinned deluded LUNATIC judeo-christo-FREAK!
SPAMING AWAY, I see!
How is it going for you, WALTER?
How is jenjed doing, eh?
You old DEFENDER of the FABLE of the white-skinned mangod, you!
….hang in there 3guys….they”ll let all three of you marry soon…..
Oh, maxxxxy, the christo-PATSY!
Are you looking forward to your christo-HOMO-heaven?
Ruled over by a tyrannical white-skinned mangod for ALL of eternity?
Do you hope to kneel and service your white-skinned mangod in christo-HOMO-heaven, maxy, you little itty bitty christo-PATSY?
Being blind, deaf, and dumb, little PATSY will NOT save you!
Three guys? Let me guess, Chris, Stefan and Mike. Do i get a prize?
You may be right Mayhem, but this is my guess:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJj6S0dgw0s
JESUS CHRIST IS THE WORD MADE FLESH. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS , OR DO YOU KNOW BETTER.
JOHN 6:56 He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.
when has anyone here, still replying to this post , can say they have, outside of the Catholic church.
How would PAUL/SAUL have felt when he realized his sinful self,
humble, because only GOD knows hearts and minds, and what it would take to turn one’s heart, to his son Jesus Christ
test the PROPHETESS as you will, and we should, but, until” I saw”. I DID NOT BELIEVE. HAVE MERCY… STILL LOVE YA ALL… POKE POKE
“JOHN 6:56 He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.
when has anyone here, still replying to this post , can say they have, outside of the Catholic church.”
I have and do, my good friend mattrick. I eat of His body and drink of His blood every day, in everything I eat and everything I drink. I call everything I eat the body of Messiah. In my heart, I submit all the inanimate matter I eat over to Him, calling it His body. And when doing so, that inanimate matter, by faith, becomes His body and becomes part of my living flesh, regenerating all my organs. Slowly but surely, I get a whole new blessed body. Likewise, in my heart and by faith, I call everything I drink the blood of Jesus, bringing to remembrance what Jesus did for us at the cross. All of that goes a long way in walking in divine health, in this divine mystery of partaking of His body and blood—Immanuel, God with us.
If you’re still peeping through the keyhole my friend mattrick, go ahead, try the above in faith, I dare you!
” peeping through the keyhole” like in Song of Solomon 5:4, or like Ezekiel 8:7,
John 6: 51,52,61-68. Matthew 4:3-4. Deuteronomy 8:3. Revelation 3:8-12.
I get a lot out of the Mass, despite the church hanging onto the traditions of men, if I can give a little guidance here, correction there. Ezekiel 2:5 Luke 22: 18-19. Daniel 12:11, Revelation 1:3. when the NWO is brought about, then will it be time.
Incidentally ‘prophetess’…
I believe in being thorough and I believe in being fair. You say Messiah’s words to the Disciples in Matthew 18:3…
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be ***CONVERTED***, and become as little children…
…should be taken to mean (quoting you):
“…those who are changed, which gives recognition to the second birth (spiritual birth)…”
So let us leave all opinion on the matter aside, and do a very thorough word search, starting with definitions given by three sources:
The word in question in this case is the Greek word
G4762 στρέφω strepho {stref’-o} strengthened from the base of G5157; TDNT – 7:714,1093; v
[Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)]
1) to turn, turn around
2) to turn one’s self (i.e. to turn the back to one
2a) of one who no longer cares for another)
2b) metaph. to turn one’s self from one’s course of conduct, i.e.
to change one’s mind
[Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)]
Strengthened from the base of G5157; to twist, that is, turn quite around or reverse (literally or figuratively):—convert, turn (again, back again, self, self about).
[Strong's (Greek Dictionary of the New Testament)]
Here is a list of many instance in the Gospels where this particular word is used. There are about seven or eight additional occurrences of G4762 in the New Testament which I have not included because the list is long enough as it is. The verses I have not included all carry similar usages with the verses below
G4762 shows up in the following verses:
Matthew 5:39
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, ***TURN*** to him the other also.
(…turn = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and ***TURN AGAIN*** and rend you.
(…turn again = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
Matthew 16:23
But he ***TURNED***, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
(…turned = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
Luke 7:9
When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and ****TURNED HIM ABOUT***, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
(…turned Him about = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
Luke 7:44
And he ***TURNED*** to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.
(…turned = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
Luke 9:55
But ***HE TURNED***, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(…He turned = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
Luke 10:23
And ***HE TURNED*** him unto his disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see…
(…He turned = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
Luke 14:25
And there went great multitudes with him: and ***HE TURNED***, and said unto them…
(…He turned = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
Luke 22:61
And the Lord ***TURNED***, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
(…turned = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
Luke 23:28
But Jesus ***TURNING*** unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
(…turning = G4762 στρέφω strepho)
The Words of Scripture are always best defined by examining all of the occurrences of that specific word throughout the entire Testament. Your suggested interpretation of G4762 στρέφω strepho bears no resemblance whatsoever with the vast number of other uses of the word throughout the New Testament. This isn’t an instance where we suffer from a paucity of evidence. The evidence is abundant. But none of the evidence supports your private interpretation of Messiah’s teaching to His Disciples.
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WALTER is an expert on the FABLE of the white-skinned mangod!
Just like being an expert in understanding the Harry Potter story, only medieval!
HEY WALTER!
Did I ever mention to you your effect on me, with ALL of your SPAMMING here on BIN?
I HATE jesus, YOUR personal white-skinned mangod tyrant for ALL of eternity!
TOO BAD it is just a FABLE, A STORY, WALTER!
All that time. WASTED on nothing more than a medieval Harry Potter story!
……Thanks walter….beautiful. Old girl seems to have a penchant for deception. I have zero confidence in her purposes, and don’t trust her intentions.
Hello Maxxy,
Just wanted to give you a personal response; that means I am responding by means of self alone.
You do not have to have confidence in the purposes given unto me; nor do you have to place any trust in the motives of my heart. You and all others have that right, and I will not stand the territory of telling any of you otherwise. However, let me get something straight.
First of all, I replied to the contributor of the above article straight-up. A reply, in which, I welcomed and gave opportunity for a response directly from her. But what did I get, no response from her, and a bunch of goons coming at me; while revealing the intents of vindictiveness through the outright attack upon whom I am in God, while professing it is in the name of testing me. Why? Well, all because I contested the defense she was upholding towards people who were only looking at things one-sided. Christians who were playing the fiddle because the law drew the line; rightfully on the most part. Or Christians who were claiming persecution because in acts of stupidity; stupidity was returned unto them.
Secondly, when the bombardment came at me, I did not avoid it. On the contrary, I have stood my ground, and faced; even under all the unnecessary ridicule directly towards the person I am. An act that I am still standing in. I never once demeaned any of the people I referred to that she was defending wrongfully. Nor have I ever once demanded the character of any of you. I have not crossed that line in any form. I have not made things personal, but of course, I am not testing any of you.
Sincerely,
CMT, middle-aged woman.
“unnecessary ridicule directly towards the person I am’
What do you expect? You claim to be a prophetess, when you’re not, and you wish to be ignored?
You don’t expect scrutiny. You expect blind acceptance of your claims. Where’s your spine? Where’s your armor? You’re weak. You’re no prophetess. I don’t know who’s channeling you but it certainly isn’t any truthful entity.
“a bunch of goons coming at me”
That’s rich, coming from you. I don’t recall any Biblical prophets resorting to such cowardly tactics when questioned about their authority.
“Sincerely,
CMT, middle-aged woman.’
That’s much better. Take a slice of that humble pie and stick to preaching the good message if you don’t have the backbone, or the discernment, to handle strong criticism.
You’re new here and you’ve already attracted the attention of the resident “goons”. And so long as you remain at this website, the target will be on you until you come forthright and admit to your false teachings.
Really Walter, just how have you prove the statement to be inaccurate?
You say the Holy Spirit is wrong because I used the terminology of ‘changed’ in place of ‘converted;’ instead of ‘turn.’ That is absurd!
Definition of turn:
an act of moving something in a circular direction around an axis or point
“a safety lock requiring four turns of the key”
synonyms:
rotation, revolution, spin, whirl, gyration, … more
an opportunity or obligation to do something that comes successively to each of a number of people
“it was his turn to speak”
synonyms:
opportunity, chance, say, stint, time, … more
verb
move or cause to move in a circular direction wholly or partly around an axis or point
“the big wheel was turning”
synonyms:
go around, revolve, rotate, spin, roll, … more
change in nature, state, form, or color; become
“Emmeline turned pale”
synonyms:
become, develop into, turn out to be, be transformed into, metamorphose into, descend into, grow into, become, go, grow, get, CONVERT, CHANGE, TRANSFORM, make, adapt, modify, rebuild, reconstruct (Oxford Dictionaries, 2015).
Do you notice the last definition of “change in nature, state, form, or color; become” (Oxford Dictionaries, 2015).
Now, lets take a look at the definition of change.
make or become different
“a proposal to change the law”
make or become a different substance entirely; transform
“filters change the ammonia into nitrate”
alter in terms of
“the ferns began to change shape”
synonyms:
alter, make/become different, adjust, adapt, amend, … moreantonyms:
preserve, stay the same
(of traffic lights) move from one color of signal to another
(of the moon) arrive at a fresh phase; become new
Do you notice the upholding of the meaning “make or become different, transform, become new” (Oxford Dictionaries, 2015).
Here is the definition of convert:
cause to change in form, character, or function
“production processes that converted raw material into useful forms”
change or be able to change from one form to another
“the seating converts to a double or two single beds”
change one’s religious faith or other beliefs
“at sixteen he converted to Catholicism”
persuade (someone) to do this
“he was converted in his later years to the socialist cause”
synonyms:
proselytize, evangelize, bring to God, redeem, save, … more
change (money, stocks, or units in which a quantity is expressed) into others of a different kind
“the figures have been converted at $0.545 to the Dutch guilder”
adapt (a building) to make it suitable for a new purpose
“the space can be easily converted into a home office”
synonyms:
adapt, turn, change, alter, modify, … more
transpose the subject and predicate of (a proposition) according to certain rules to form a new proposition by inference
score from (a penalty kick, pass, or other opportunity) in a sport or game
score an extra point or points after having scored a touchdown by kicking a goal (one point) or running another play into the end zone (two points)
advance the ball far enough during a down to earn a first down (Oxford Dictionaries, 2015).
Notice the meaning upheld of “cause to change in form, character, or function.
Now with us both bringing forth terminology that is in agreement, let me now apply the definition into the verse. It reads as follows, “Assuredly (guarantee), I say to you, unless you are changed, or turned, or converted (become new/transform/alter – spiritual rebirth)” and (as well as/plus) become as little children (children are dependent upon their parent, children are innocent in mind, they know not wrong unless they are told it is wrong; therefore, their motives are always pure), you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
You fail to notice that there are two separate instructions given in the verse.
The first instruction is: unless you are converted (turned / changed)
The second and separate instruction is revealed after the ‘and’ word. The ‘and’ word upholds the meaning of ‘also, plus.’
The second instruction is: become like little children.
Therefore to enter the kingdom on heaven, Christ is teaching that two things must be accomplished: conversion in body (second birth) and conversion in mind (behavior conduct).
Word of encouragement: Romans 12:2, “And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God” (NKJV, 1982).
Tell me your thoughts on this understanding please.
Oxford Dictionaries. (2015). Retrieved from: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/.
Scripture taken from the New King James Version. Copyright 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess on the Most High
Madam ‘prophetess’ wrote:
“On the contrary, I have stood my ground, and faced; even under all the unnecessary ridicule directly towards the person I am.”
You haven’t been exposed to any ridicule, madam. And here’s a helpful tip for you, free of charge: When, during the course of your comings and goings in this world, you identify yourself as a ‘prophetess of the Most High’ you are going to encounter people occasionally who will challenge your claim. Would you rather we all shut up and just exalted you? Rhetorical question, madam. The fact is this… we who are seekers after the Way of Messiah the Son of the Most High, are scripturally beholden to do with you as we have done. You may not approve of our tactics. To that I would answer: Too bad. You’ve been tested and found false. You won’t consent to be questioned. You misuse the Scriptures. You exalt yourself. And now, you’ve been caught outright lying. Because you wrote:
“Nor have I ever once demanded (sic) the character of any of you. I have not crossed that line in any form. I have not made things personal…”
…but not before you had written:
“…a bunch of goons coming at me…”
You want leeway? You want respect? You want admiration and reverence? Tough. Those things are either earned, or they belong to the Most High Himself. You think you should have those things by right because you paint yourself with false glory? And when we seek to prove your claims, you bristle? Wise up madam. Your problems are only beginning.
“I am not testing any of you.”
None of us have given you a REASON to test us, madam. Understand that what you do comes with consequences.
“CMT, middle-aged woman.”
Several times I have considered treating you with a lighter hand because you are a middle-aged woman. But what you are doing is deserving of stern rebuke.
“You say the Holy Spirit is wrong because I used the terminology of ‘changed’ in place of ‘converted;’ instead of ‘turn.’ That is absurd!”
Did I say the Holy Spirit was wrong? I said YOU were wrong. Pay attention and stop pretending to confound yourself for the Holy Spirit. We’re very used to this sort of tactic, madam. It’s one which is employed by many deviators and transgressors. You’ll get nowhere playing such games with anyone who is well-versed in the Word.
“Definition of turn…”
Here’s your problem: If the word carried the meaning you suggest it carries, there would be confirming witness for that suggestion found in Scripture. Do you know about confirming witness?
2 Corinthians 13:1
In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall EVERY WORD be established.
“(Oxford Dictionaries, 2015).”
Don’t think for a split-second this source of reference material to which you seek recourse has gone unnoticed.
“Here is the definition of convert…”
This tells me you’re pretending to miss the point. I know you haven’t actually missed it, but please allow me to remove all doubt: The definition of ‘convert’ is meaningless for the purposes of our conversation. The definition of the Greek word from Matthew 18:3 – that is G4762 στρέφω strephō — is what we are concerned with. The fact that certain translators have rendered that word as ‘converted’ in the case of Matthew 18:3 does nothing to support your illicit suggestion of the way ‘convert’ should be interpreted. In order for your illicit suggestion to be found worthy of any consideration, there would HAVE TO BE other occurrences of that term used in Scripture which carried the meaning you suggest, or a very similar meaning, without having to artificially import the meaning and thus corrupting the written Word. Now that’s about as clearly as I know how to communicate this concept to you. If you are still unsure of my meaning, or if you would merely like to pretend, then that’s not something I feel compelled to remedy. This is all now a matter of record. Perhaps one day you will you pretend you were never a party to this conversation. See where that gets you.
“Now with us both bringing forth terminology that is in agreement…”
I will take no part in your mishandling of the written Word. I furthermore repudiate the suggestion that anything you or I have said is in agreement. We are not in agreement. Neither is our ‘terminology.’
“You fail to notice that there are two separate instructions given in the verse.”
I fail to notice no such thing. Rightly understood, the verse reads thusly:
Verily I say unto you, Except ye be ***turned from your ways***…
(That would be the first part…)
and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
(…and that would be the second.)
Turned from your ways = repentance. To repent = to turn; or to turn BACK from; or to turn AWAY from. Here is both the Hebrew word and its definition, and take note I do not consult Oxford:
H7725 שׁוּב shûb A primitive root; to turn back (hence, away) transitively or intransitively, literally or figuratively (not necessarily with the idea of return to the starting point); generally to retreat; often adverbially again…
That is the Old Testament concept we should be discussing when we consider Messiah’s word to the Disciples in Matthew 18:3.
“The first instruction is: unless you are converted (turned / changed)…”
That’s a fair rendering. What is unfair and incorrect is when you proceed to import the idea of changing from the natural to the spiritual. Your suggestion is baseless, considering the evidence and considering the context in which Messiah’s words were given. Your understanding of the verse is wrong.
Here is the summary of events, thus far:
You have claimed for yourself a title.
We have sought to vet your claim according to the Word.
You have refused to consent to our questions – specific questions which we are scripturally bound to put to you in light of your claim.
You have preferred rather to give incorrect and erroneous interpretations of the Word, rather than answer the simple questions put to you. Questions of this nature are simple to answer when people are standing in the light of Truth. Were you a prophet indeed, you would have had no compunction whatsoever about answering swiftly and truthfully. Then you would have thanked us for doing according to the Word.
You have been tested.
You have been found a false witness: You lied about not resorting to the ad hominem; you lied about the meaning of Matthew 18:3; and you lied about being a prophetess of the Most High.
Your errors are no small thing. There will be stern penalties for your transgressions. There yet remains the question of whether perhaps you are not lying about being a ‘contactee.’ If you are not lying about being contacted by inhabitants of that other world, then you are perhaps a practitioner of witchcraft. So you are either lying, or you are a witch. I do not think you are a witch. I think you are a person who seeks recognition and admiration. I think you are motivated by self-exaltation. This very finding is reflected strongly in the image you use to accompany your screen name.
You can proceed in the vein you have chosen, or you can TURN BACK and search for another way. You are in deep, but you are free to stop digging. The fact that you make light of the consequences for your actions, will do nothing at all to mitigate those consequences in the day when you are judged.
This has been a public rebuke from a brother in Messiah to a sister who claims to be that which she is not, invoking the Name of the Most High in the commission of her violation.
Oh, Oh, SPAM MAN ALERT!
SPAM MAN ALERT!
This WALTER is so FULL of BEEF JERKY!
YOU, the Pope of Pompous Galore, giving a lesson in humility to a Prophetess!
I just cannot stop laughing!
Hello Scanner Darko,
Thank you for your reply, and here is my response:
In all the words I spoke in the post you have responded to, I never once complained about you, or any of your people, scrutinizing my rightful professing of the position I hold, which was given to me by God Himself. I stated attacking who I am in God. There is a difference between examining then responding with promptings of challenge, and attacking. Here is a recall of my statements:
“You do not have to have confidence in the purposes given unto me; nor do you have to place any trust in the motives of my heart. You and all others have that right, and I will not stand the territory of telling any of you otherwise. However, let me get something straight.
First of all, I replied to the contributor of the above article straight-up. A reply, in which, I welcomed and gave opportunity for a response directly from her. But what did I get, no response from her, and a bunch of goons coming at me; while revealing the intents of vindictiveness through the outright attack upon whom I am in God, while professing it is in the name of testing me. Why? Well, all because I contested the defense she was upholding towards people who were only looking at things one-sided. Christians who were playing the fiddle because the law drew the line; rightfully on the most part. Or Christians who were claiming persecution because in acts of stupidity; stupidity was returned unto them.
Secondly, when the bombardment came at me, I did not avoid it. On the contrary, I have stood my ground, and faced; even under all the unnecessary ridicule directly towards the person I am. An act that I am still standing in. I never once demeaned any of the people I referred to that she was defending wrongfully. Nor have I ever once demanded the character of any of you. I have not crossed that line in any form. I have not made things personal, but of course, I am not testing any of you.
As you can see, I only stated that you and your people cannot discern the difference between scrutinizing that which I post in response for defense, and bashing the person I am. All those other comments are nonsense, or are you and the others incapable of facing a challenge without revealing sinking to levels of demoralization. That is childish, and if you are not children, then you should not act like children. If you, or any others for that fact, do not agree with the function I hold, then fine disagree. I have not asked any of you to call me a prophetess. You have every right to use my initials. You share your beliefs, and I respond with my beliefs. In my sharing’s I give reference to Scripture for support, but you say my perception of Scripture is wrong. Well tell me now, what makes your perceptions right? Because you say so. Well, if that if the foundation you want to maturely stand upon, then just know that the right you claim to discredit by means of your perception against my perception, is a right I equally have. Or are you a hypocrite that places demands upon others that you yourself cannot embrace.
And you are wrong, my Savior Jesus Christ held the Prophetic Office, and in Matthew 12:33-37 he used the terminology of ‘brood of vipers’ against those who unjustly came at Him. Here is the verses, “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the Day of Judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned” (NKJV, 1982).
Scripture taken from the New King James Version. Copyright 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
“In all the words I spoke in the post you have responded to, I never once complained about you, or any of your people, scrutinizing my rightful professing of the position I hold, which was given to me by God Himself.”
Then what was with the “bunch of goons” coming at you statement? That sounds like a complaint to me. In fact, you’re entire post to Maxxy is nothing more than one long complaint. If you don’t like what you have received then you should consider refraining from any more of your snide, passive aggressive responses. Why do you waste everyone’s time with these nuances? Prophet vs. Prophetess, smells, complaints, etc… you’re chalk full of distractions. Stick to the point: either you are lying or you have been deceived. Each instance demands scrutiny. Whether your mind fancies one thing or another as a complaint is beside the point.
“First of all, I replied to the contributor of the above article straight-up.”
Do you imagine any of us care? We don’t. Stop making excuses and stop searching for sympathy. You will find none, from me at least. That’s what happens at forums. People comment, others respond. Get it? You’ll be going solo on any trips down memory lane.
“all because I contested the defense she was upholding towards people who were only looking at things one-sided.”
Lies. I was the first to reply and there can be no doubt that my reply was directed towards your claim of “prophetess”. How stupid do you imagine me to be?
“Nor have I ever once demanded the character of any of you.”
No one else is claiming to be the mouthpiece of the Most High. Just you sister, just you.
“I have not crossed that line in any form. I have not made things personal, but of course, I am not testing any of you.”
What line? Are you creating morals or is there some prepared guideline you go by? Someone else speak up if they’ve seen something ‘unfair’.
And as far as testing goes, you’re not doing it because you wouldn’t know where to start. You wouldn’t know how to test the spirit (if any) that is contacting you and you wouldn’t know how to test a man who has your number. You’ve utterly failed in the department of testing spirits, so your claim to not be engaging in such a practice comes as no surprise.
“are you and the others incapable of facing a challenge without revealing sinking to levels of demoralization.’
What challenge have you presented? You haven’t challenged me, or anyone else here. Hell, you just said you weren’t testing anybody! You just don’t like being called out as a b*llsh*tt*r, or someone who has been deceived by lying spirits. You don’t like the prospect of having that title you tote so proudly stripped from beneath your glossy glass slippers. All your responses have been all about you. You’re PRIDE is why you continue to return.
“If you, or any others for that fact, do not agree with the function I hold, then fine disagree.”
I have.
“I have not asked any of you to call me a prophetess.”
But you certainly wish we would, otherwise you’d give it a rest. You’re far from the first person at BIN to do EXACTLY what you are doing. You’re a rookie who walked in to a locker room full of seasoned veterans. You continue to underestimate (and demean) those you talk to because you’ve convinced yourself that you hold some heavenly position of authority. You’ve convinced yourself that you are a prophetess, and that the Most High speaks through you. You’ve blindly evaluated yourself above us and if you choose to stay aloft up there, floating over the void with your paper wings, it will be to your own demise.
“You have every right to use my initials.”
Why would I? Why would anybody? The Written Word contains everything we need to know.
“In my sharing’s I give reference to Scripture for support, but you say my perception of Scripture is wrong. Well tell me now, what makes your perceptions right?”
I’ll let WALTER handle this one but I imagine the perception that is right to be the one that comes straight from the Bible.
“know that the right you claim to discredit by means of your perception against my perception, is a right I equally have. Or are you a hypocrite that places demands upon others that you yourself cannot embrace.”
You’re going to put everyone to sleep with this noise. Can you stay on the subject or are you going to keep playing the victim card? If the latter, then feel free to throw whatever demands you may have my way.
“in Matthew 12:33-37 he used the terminology of ‘brood of vipers’ against those who unjustly came at Him. Here is the verses”
I know the verse. Do you still imagine us to be a bunch of novices? Get over yourself. Nobody has done anything “unjust”, in relation to any response about Messiah or His Father, except for you, claiming to be something you are not. My treatment of you, just of unjust, it is not for you to decide. But I do it to glorify Him and the Truth. And IF you do fall under that ‘false prophet’ category, as I suspect, then don’t I have an obligation to scrutinize you? Don’t I have an obligation to stand up for Him and the Truth? (Personally, I find it nauseating that you would refer to that passage in your own defense.)
With all do respect, you are not scrutinizing. To scrutinize is to examine closely. You are applying pressure in a sense of wanting me to slip in a way that you have opportunity to twist my explanations with all of that intellectual nonsense of yours, or to cause me to state that you are right, by trying to persuading me that I am deceived. My beliefs differ from yours, and obviously for you to feel confident about your beliefs, I have to be wrong. Your confidence doesn’t really express sureness; more like Narcissism. That’s bad for you, or anyone else here, because not one ounce of the wholeness of the conversations has caused me to second-guess my beliefs within me.
Now whereas I know I could stand my ground here and continue to express my beliefs with all confidence, I would be a fool to. For truly, even in my right, you are too prideful to be wrong. Besides, if I keep exposing myself to your beliefs, you will have me believing that the Anunnaki is God. Therefore, I will end the conversation; for the sake of not wasting my time. I will continue doing as I have for awhile; follow the postings and just share my replies generally.
And please, there is no need for a reply; I am full of your egoism.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
Finally, upon researching for translations for Isaiah 65 I found this link: http://www.hebrewoldtestament.com/B23C065.htm.
I am not going to expand on it; for there is no sense in sharing insight from the Holy Spirit anymore. Pray for the understanding needed to come.
CMT
Bondservant and Prophetess of the Most High
Yourstand2014
ANY woman that willingly follows those that Tortured your gender for 1,600 years and considered YOUR gender to be mere chattel is either a FOOL or a LUNATIC.
So, which are you prophetess?
I find you, traitor to your OWN gender, to be really disgusting!
And, ALL to Defend the FABLE of the white-skinned mangod!
FOOL it is!
“Your confidence doesn’t really express sureness; more like Narcissism.”
Is that the pot calling the kettle black? Yes. It is.
“if I keep exposing myself to your beliefs, you will have me believing that the Anunnaki is God”
Straw woman, now you’re putting words in my mouth. Poor form, CMT.
I said, “Can you stay on the subject or are you going to keep playing the victim card?”
The victim card it is. Farewell CMT.
I’ll grant there’s one thing different about you, CMT, it doesn’t normally take this long to get a version of the following missive…
- If you all knew Scripture like I (meaning you) know Scripture you’d know the truth but despite the instruction of 1st Peter 3:15 I (you) have decided ya’ll ain’t worthy of my considerate sharing. I could stand my ground and even though 2nd Timothy 3:16 says the Bible is useful, for just such purpose I’ve (yes you) concluded that my foolishness has been thoroughly enough exposed already -
… seen it all before, beyond counting.
You’ll have to excuse WALTER’S ignorance. He doesn’t know that the Inspired Word is trumped by the Oxford Dictionary. He’s a bit of a stickler for having the Bible explain itself and doesn’t put much weight on his own opinion let alone any other.
One last thing, CMT: resorting to straw-man arguments will come as no surprise to any of the commentators and i doubt there’ll be many reading this that didn’t roll their eyes at your faux pas.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=987432684612746&id=259462724076416
If you have something to say, CMT, say it here. I don’t do twitbook and you look like you’re trolling for traffic.