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Christian filmmaker Paul Lalonde, wrote on Facebook a tidbit of information after the Republican debate this week. He highlighted a prophetic moment that is happening as we speak. He mentioned the comments made from the candidates about the current ”alliance of Iran and Russia” in the Middle East. The producer and writer of end-times film “Left Behind,” wrote on the Left Behind Facebook page that he was struck by GOP candidates’ open discussion about this prophetic coalition, saying that he believes that the alliance pertains to biblical prophecy.
He also said that the contenders could “have stirred things up” had they openly tied the alliance to end-times verses in the Old Testament.
“So I’m watching the debate tonight and listening to the candidates talking at some length about the politics in the Middle East,” Lalonde “They even specifically mention the alliance of Iran and Russia.” He continued, “And yet not one of the entire panel of self-professed Christians said, ‘Oh, and by the way, that’s the very alliance that the Bible says will attack Israel in this generation.” Lalonde said that, had one of the candidates mentioned the widely held evangelical belief that Russia and Iran could form a military alliance during the end times — a theological construct that is based on interpretations of Ezekiel 38-39 – that it could have really “stirred things up.” Here is the Facebook Post he mentioned about Ezekiel’s prophecy.
There is a movement as we speak that contends Russia is not the Biblical GOG/MAGOG. They contend that Turkey is GOG/MAGOG and out of her will arise the Antichrist. That doesn’t seem to be plausible as the description of the nation mentioned in Ezekiel 38-39 seem to have described Mother Russia. It’s inevitable the alliance mentioned in Ezekiel 38-39 is forming. The rise of GOG/MAGOG in the End Times draws closer.You either see the truth of scripture happening before you or you can put you head back in the sand. Just be aware that this battle is being set up to introduce the Antichrist. Israel has been inundated with Messianic fever and they are ready for the Messiah to return. The battle of GOG/MAGOG will usher the false hope that many Israelites will view as their savior. Study your Bible because the Latter Days draw near.
Russia-Iran ‘Nightmare’ Alliance: Why You Should Be Concerned
Do you remember who was general Lebed? In the last days of Yeltzin rule, with Chechen terrorists, running mad because Russian government was not read to turn truce into long time peace, with one suitcase nuke found in Moscow, park near Kremlin? While Yeltzin top aid, Lebed ( Afghan war hero) was advocate of peace deal and to recognize free and secular Chechnia under general Dudayev’s rule while that FBS chief, Putin was advocate of war (solution).
Anonymous
“”oh, and by the way, that’s the very alliance that the Bible says will attack Israel in this generation”. (Ezekiel 38-39)”
Oh, and by the way, you clearly don’t understand Ezekiel 38-39.
Judge Roy Bean
Few understand that the Jews cannot be Israel as the name Israel was passed to the House of Joseph by Jacob-Israel and for that reason when the United Kingdom of Israel split into two nations, the northern tribes were called Israel and the southern nation was called Judea.
Judaism is a false religion that is built around the Babylonian Talmud not the Torah as if they the Jews had believed Mosses then they would have also believed Yahshua.
Now it is prophesied that Israel would become a company or multitude of nations and also one great nation. This was never fulfilled in the old kingdom of Israel but was for the modern era of history and our time.
Gen 48:16-19
16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father’s hand, to remove it from Ephraim’s head unto Manasseh’s head.
18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
KJV
As for coming against “the mountains of Israel”, it is the peoples Israel in the nations that Gog and Magog are coming against, not a bunch of Antichrist unbelieving atheistic-communist Jews.
Mountains can mean literally mountains but it can also equate to nations.
Judge Roy Bean
The below verses make much better sense when you change the name Mountains for nations.
Israel established herself as many nations that had been under the sword.
Never forget the prize in all of this is America, the land of un-walled villages with cattle and good (great wealth) and has been Yahshua’s strong hold of believers.
Ezek 38:8-12
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
KJV
Damien
Israel is death. The patrilineal line of Jacob was destroyed in the 1st century AD.
Truthseeker
Medina
you are from the middle east, I now understand where you are coming from with your comments.
So if i may let me ask a question, I have been listening to some very well connected men and they are saying the millions of boys and men that are coming from the middle east pouring into Europe will soon like in the next few months cause a blood bath like just happened in Paris but times 100.
Do you think this is likely ?
Damien
Truthseeker
The French government are Muricans and the Papacy’s fellow anti–Semitic statists.
Ask them.
BEEF SUPREME
Truthseeker,
You can’t ask Meidan a straight question like that and expect a meaningful answer. You have to break the question into small pieces and slip them under her tent flap one at a time. Basically, you have to trick her into answering.
I think she’s actually allergic to simple answers.
DrBob
Truthseeker
Well connected men?
Who have you been listening too?
Judge Roy Bean
You can fool most of the people most of the time but not all the people all the time.
Russia is not Gog and Magog, however the so-called Jews that left and invaded the western nations may very well be a part of them.
Turkey is Asia Minor and when the seven churches were judged it was found that Satan seat was in this area of the world.
For a quick education on this matter, watch the following:
Yup, historically, Gog and Magog are from Turkey/Asia Minor.
Casting Nets
Genesis 25:23 “And the Lord said unto her, “Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.”
These twins are two different manner of people, and will grow into the two bodies of population that will ultimately rule the world. They fought in the womb, and they fought as children. Their tribes never could get along as the grew into nations, and even today, the Russian and Christian nations still have opposite polarity to each other.
The younger of the twins would be Jacob, and the elder is Esau, who was also called “Edom”, also referred to as Rosh in the Hebrew, from which in English we get “Russia” [Rosh-people]. Jacob’s name will be changed by God to “Israel”, and through his twelve sons, will grow into a multitude of nations.
Within the womb of Rebekah you have the two super powers of the end generation, that we are now in. The Christian and Jewish nations of peoples on one side, and the children of Esau, or Russian people on the other. This is all part of God’s plan, and stated within the promises of the covenant that God gave to Abraham.
God’s hatred toward toward Esau was great, and is stated in both Malachi 1:3, and Romans 9:13; “…Jacob I loved, and Esau I hated”. God does not hate the innocent child, however, he does hate that sin that was committed prior to this earth age, in the “age that was”. And the hatred toward Esau was from the sin committed in that time prior to his entering the womb. The Russian Christians have suffered a lot by their people, and the Kenites that live and rule amongst them, and God has a deep love for them. So much so that He gave His only Begotten Son so they might have eternal life.
As we enter into the final times of this so called peace of the “New World Order”, Russia will turn again against the Christian nations [Jacob], and that is how we close out this current generation, and earth age of the flesh. Russia is like a jackal, and can’t be trusted, and those who trust her in any form are fools.
unidentified
a lot of what is happening in the middle east today and has been happening for generations make it look very much like we are in the last days atleast they think it is
Anonymous
Rosh in Hebrew means ‘head’ or ‘prince’.
Where did you learn such nonsense?
Casting Nets
Genesis 25:25 “And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.”
This identification of being red all over, gave him the nick name of “Edom”, which means red. Can you identify any nation today which holds red dear? Of course it’s Russia. So we will see that throughout the Bible, Esau will also be called Edom, and his children Edomites.
Pix
Gog and Magog has nothing to do with Russia or Iran, they were both cities in Turkey. At the moment Turkey is about to have a civil war over Turkey’s corrupt government fencing stolen Syrian and Iraqi oil, which clearly proves they are supporting terrorists.
Pharisees.org
Gog and Magog do NOT exist UNTIL the Lrod reigns on earth (Rev. Ch. 20).
LEFT BEHIND, realy idiot Chrsitinas, yeah the dogs who belive Peter went to the dark side and that man of Satan anti-Chirst Paul speaks truth for Pharsiee forgeries 1 and 2 Peter claim earth and everything in it burned up, the good people raptured off earth. Same for ant-Chirst Paul in 1 Thessa. 4:16-17.
HEAR THE SON OF GOD, sheep, COME OUT OF CHRSITANITY, SHEEP:
Matthew 13:41 The Son of GOd shall send forth his angels who shall REMOVE ALL EVIL PEOPLE and all offensive thigns from the earth
Matthew 5:5 THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH
REPENT, BECAUSE THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COMING (Matthew 3:2, 4:17, 10:7)
NO WHERE in anti-Christ Paul’s gospel is there a coming kingdom of God to earth, NO WHERE. Also not in PHARISEE FALSE APSOTLE LUKES AND MARK’s wriitngs, NO WHERE.
Christians call the Son of God a HYPOCRITE condemning some evildoers to Hell but not other evildoers. An eivldoer is one who woudl always reject the Light becuase they PREFER to do evil (John 3:19-20):
Matthew 11:23 You, Capernaum, have exalted yourselves unto Heaven. YOU SHALL BE BROUGHT DOWN TO HELL [for refusing to stop doing evil] ….
But the Christnas think EVILDOER Paul is of teh Son of God – Romans 7:19 I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO GOOD. I AM A PRACITTIONER OF EVIL
This despite his claim that
1. His body is filled with God’s Spriit and his body is God’s Holy Temple ( 1 Cor. 3:16-17) – BLASPHEMIES
2. His mind is the mind of the Son of God (1 Cor. 2:16) – BLASPHEMY
the founder of Chrsitnaity is an EVILDOER WHO IS IN HELL the first death (Matthew 11:23) and then goes to the everlasting lake of fire, the second death (Rev. 20:14).
MOCK the children of Hell Christians on BIN taht say REPNET OR WRATH, how about their own evildoer master Paul, HE NEVER REPENTED, he PRATICED EVIL and claims his evil deeds are not of his own doing (Rev. 17:7), WHACK JOB, cuckoo HE DOES evil, but that ain’t him doing his evil deeds that is sin in his flesh (Romasn 7:23). EVIL EVIL EVIL
Paul the anti-Christ his body is allegedly filled with both God’s Spirit and Evil! To Hell with Chriistiantiy, spawned by Satan’s men the Pharsiees – Genesis 49:1, 49:27l, Philiippians 3:5, Romans 15:27
Pharisees.org
Correction, Romans 7:17 (not Rev 7:17). The evil anti-Chirst DISAVOWS ALL RESPONSIBITY FOR HIS EVIL DEEDS saysing his body is captive to the law of sin, his body is captive to EVIL
and yet he claims his body is God’s Holy Temple, which is blasphemy, no man’s body is God’s Holy Temple! And yet he claims his body is filed width God’s Spirit.
WHAT BLASPHEMY. The Pharisees committed the only unforgivable sin, CLAMING THE HOLY SPIRT IS EVIL (Matthew 12:31-32) and there also evil founder of Chrsitnaity PHARISEE PAUL says
EVIL LAW OF SIN and GOD’S HOLY SPIRT BOTH RESIDE IN HIM. THAT HIS BODY IS GOD’S HOLY TEMPLE AND WITHI N THE HOLY TEMPLE IS THE LAW OF SIN. BLASPHEMIES.
Come out of Chrsitnaity, sheep of God. Follow the SON , his words only, and be wise as snakes and HAMRLESS AS DOVES (Matthew 10:16).
Do not be like Chrsitians, the evil founder of Chrsitnaity: 2 Cor 10:6 … REVENGE ALL DISOBEDIENCE. And evil Anti-Chirst Paul says that everyone who is not of his church is A CHILD OF DISOBEDIENCE, a child fo wrath.
He insturcts his Christian hoards to REVENGE the children of disobedience. The four horsemen ride, that is Chrsitanity bring DEATH AND HELL (Rev. 6:1-8).
Sheep, the souls kiled for giving testimony of God ask in REV. 6:9-10 WHEN WILL YOU JUDGE THOSE ON EARTH FOR KILLING US
now the people in Heaven are NOT stupid. If Rev. 6:1-8 were the beginnign of God’s judgment, the souls wouldn’t be asking God when does judgment begin.
Revelation is chronologic, Rev. 6:12-17 does not precede Rev. 6:1-8, nor Rev. Ch. 13 precede the Rev. CHs. 1 through 12. Christains are amogn the WICKED who do not understand (Daniel 12:10).
Rev. 6:1-8 is Christanity, the four horsemen, claiiming to be truth of God (white horse), Christnaity is Puall’s lying gospel, and the white rides to conquer and conquering. Catholic chruch is original Christendom it went out riding to conquer territory for the Vatican Pharisees’ Catholic altars, and some territory they conquered, and other territory they could not conquer. Christendom has repeatedly tried to conquer Asia and to this day largest Asian nation China, repotedly only 2% to 4% are Christian.
Rev. 6:9-11 souls ask God when does judgment begin
Rev. 6:12-17 The judgment unto victory of God begins
Do you remember who was general Lebed? In the last days of Yeltzin rule, with Chechen terrorists, running mad because Russian government was not read to turn truce into long time peace, with one suitcase nuke found in Moscow, park near Kremlin? While Yeltzin top aid, Lebed ( Afghan war hero) was advocate of peace deal and to recognize free and secular Chechnia under general Dudayev’s rule while that FBS chief, Putin was advocate of war (solution).
“”oh, and by the way, that’s the very alliance that the Bible says will attack Israel in this generation”. (Ezekiel 38-39)”
Oh, and by the way, you clearly don’t understand Ezekiel 38-39.
Few understand that the Jews cannot be Israel as the name Israel was passed to the House of Joseph by Jacob-Israel and for that reason when the United Kingdom of Israel split into two nations, the northern tribes were called Israel and the southern nation was called Judea.
Judaism is a false religion that is built around the Babylonian Talmud not the Torah as if they the Jews had believed Mosses then they would have also believed Yahshua.
Now it is prophesied that Israel would become a company or multitude of nations and also one great nation. This was never fulfilled in the old kingdom of Israel but was for the modern era of history and our time.
Gen 48:16-19
16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father’s hand, to remove it from Ephraim’s head unto Manasseh’s head.
18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
KJV
As for coming against “the mountains of Israel”, it is the peoples Israel in the nations that Gog and Magog are coming against, not a bunch of Antichrist unbelieving atheistic-communist Jews.
Mountains can mean literally mountains but it can also equate to nations.
The below verses make much better sense when you change the name Mountains for nations.
Israel established herself as many nations that had been under the sword.
Never forget the prize in all of this is America, the land of un-walled villages with cattle and good (great wealth) and has been Yahshua’s strong hold of believers.
Ezek 38:8-12
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
KJV
Israel is death. The patrilineal line of Jacob was destroyed in the 1st century AD.
Medina
you are from the middle east, I now understand where you are coming from with your comments.
So if i may let me ask a question, I have been listening to some very well connected men and they are saying the millions of boys and men that are coming from the middle east pouring into Europe will soon like in the next few months cause a blood bath like just happened in Paris but times 100.
Do you think this is likely ?
Truthseeker
The French government are Muricans and the Papacy’s fellow anti–Semitic statists.
Ask them.
Truthseeker,
You can’t ask Meidan a straight question like that and expect a meaningful answer. You have to break the question into small pieces and slip them under her tent flap one at a time. Basically, you have to trick her into answering.
I think she’s actually allergic to simple answers.
Truthseeker
Well connected men?
Who have you been listening too?
You can fool most of the people most of the time but not all the people all the time.
Russia is not Gog and Magog, however the so-called Jews that left and invaded the western nations may very well be a part of them.
Turkey is Asia Minor and when the seven churches were judged it was found that Satan seat was in this area of the world.
For a quick education on this matter, watch the following:
https://youtu.be/0Cq340CtbW4
Yup, historically, Gog and Magog are from Turkey/Asia Minor.
Genesis 25:23 “And the Lord said unto her, “Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.”
These twins are two different manner of people, and will grow into the two bodies of population that will ultimately rule the world. They fought in the womb, and they fought as children. Their tribes never could get along as the grew into nations, and even today, the Russian and Christian nations still have opposite polarity to each other.
The younger of the twins would be Jacob, and the elder is Esau, who was also called “Edom”, also referred to as Rosh in the Hebrew, from which in English we get “Russia” [Rosh-people]. Jacob’s name will be changed by God to “Israel”, and through his twelve sons, will grow into a multitude of nations.
Within the womb of Rebekah you have the two super powers of the end generation, that we are now in. The Christian and Jewish nations of peoples on one side, and the children of Esau, or Russian people on the other. This is all part of God’s plan, and stated within the promises of the covenant that God gave to Abraham.
God’s hatred toward toward Esau was great, and is stated in both Malachi 1:3, and Romans 9:13; “…Jacob I loved, and Esau I hated”. God does not hate the innocent child, however, he does hate that sin that was committed prior to this earth age, in the “age that was”. And the hatred toward Esau was from the sin committed in that time prior to his entering the womb. The Russian Christians have suffered a lot by their people, and the Kenites that live and rule amongst them, and God has a deep love for them. So much so that He gave His only Begotten Son so they might have eternal life.
As we enter into the final times of this so called peace of the “New World Order”, Russia will turn again against the Christian nations [Jacob], and that is how we close out this current generation, and earth age of the flesh. Russia is like a jackal, and can’t be trusted, and those who trust her in any form are fools.
a lot of what is happening in the middle east today and has been happening for generations make it look very much like we are in the last days atleast they think it is
Rosh in Hebrew means ‘head’ or ‘prince’.
Where did you learn such nonsense?
Genesis 25:25 “And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.”
This identification of being red all over, gave him the nick name of “Edom”, which means red. Can you identify any nation today which holds red dear? Of course it’s Russia. So we will see that throughout the Bible, Esau will also be called Edom, and his children Edomites.
Gog and Magog has nothing to do with Russia or Iran, they were both cities in Turkey. At the moment Turkey is about to have a civil war over Turkey’s corrupt government fencing stolen Syrian and Iraqi oil, which clearly proves they are supporting terrorists.
Gog and Magog do NOT exist UNTIL the Lrod reigns on earth (Rev. Ch. 20).
LEFT BEHIND, realy idiot Chrsitinas, yeah the dogs who belive Peter went to the dark side and that man of Satan anti-Chirst Paul speaks truth for Pharsiee forgeries 1 and 2 Peter claim earth and everything in it burned up, the good people raptured off earth. Same for ant-Chirst Paul in 1 Thessa. 4:16-17.
HEAR THE SON OF GOD, sheep, COME OUT OF CHRSITANITY, SHEEP:
Matthew 13:41 The Son of GOd shall send forth his angels who shall REMOVE ALL EVIL PEOPLE and all offensive thigns from the earth
Matthew 5:5 THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH
REPENT, BECAUSE THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COMING (Matthew 3:2, 4:17, 10:7)
NO WHERE in anti-Christ Paul’s gospel is there a coming kingdom of God to earth, NO WHERE. Also not in PHARISEE FALSE APSOTLE LUKES AND MARK’s wriitngs, NO WHERE.
Christians call the Son of God a HYPOCRITE condemning some evildoers to Hell but not other evildoers. An eivldoer is one who woudl always reject the Light becuase they PREFER to do evil (John 3:19-20):
Matthew 11:23 You, Capernaum, have exalted yourselves unto Heaven. YOU SHALL BE BROUGHT DOWN TO HELL [for refusing to stop doing evil] ….
But the Christnas think EVILDOER Paul is of teh Son of God – Romans 7:19 I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO GOOD. I AM A PRACITTIONER OF EVIL
This despite his claim that
1. His body is filled with God’s Spriit and his body is God’s Holy Temple ( 1 Cor. 3:16-17) – BLASPHEMIES
2. His mind is the mind of the Son of God (1 Cor. 2:16) – BLASPHEMY
the founder of Chrsitnaity is an EVILDOER WHO IS IN HELL the first death (Matthew 11:23) and then goes to the everlasting lake of fire, the second death (Rev. 20:14).
MOCK the children of Hell Christians on BIN taht say REPNET OR WRATH, how about their own evildoer master Paul, HE NEVER REPENTED, he PRATICED EVIL and claims his evil deeds are not of his own doing (Rev. 17:7), WHACK JOB, cuckoo HE DOES evil, but that ain’t him doing his evil deeds that is sin in his flesh (Romasn 7:23). EVIL EVIL EVIL
Paul the anti-Christ his body is allegedly filled with both God’s Spirit and Evil! To Hell with Chriistiantiy, spawned by Satan’s men the Pharsiees – Genesis 49:1, 49:27l, Philiippians 3:5, Romans 15:27
Correction, Romans 7:17 (not Rev 7:17). The evil anti-Chirst DISAVOWS ALL RESPONSIBITY FOR HIS EVIL DEEDS saysing his body is captive to the law of sin, his body is captive to EVIL
and yet he claims his body is God’s Holy Temple, which is blasphemy, no man’s body is God’s Holy Temple! And yet he claims his body is filed width God’s Spirit.
WHAT BLASPHEMY. The Pharisees committed the only unforgivable sin, CLAMING THE HOLY SPIRT IS EVIL (Matthew 12:31-32) and there also evil founder of Chrsitnaity PHARISEE PAUL says
EVIL LAW OF SIN and GOD’S HOLY SPIRT BOTH RESIDE IN HIM. THAT HIS BODY IS GOD’S HOLY TEMPLE AND WITHI N THE HOLY TEMPLE IS THE LAW OF SIN. BLASPHEMIES.
Come out of Chrsitnaity, sheep of God. Follow the SON , his words only, and be wise as snakes and HAMRLESS AS DOVES (Matthew 10:16).
Do not be like Chrsitians, the evil founder of Chrsitnaity: 2 Cor 10:6 … REVENGE ALL DISOBEDIENCE. And evil Anti-Chirst Paul says that everyone who is not of his church is A CHILD OF DISOBEDIENCE, a child fo wrath.
He insturcts his Christian hoards to REVENGE the children of disobedience. The four horsemen ride, that is Chrsitanity bring DEATH AND HELL (Rev. 6:1-8).
Sheep, the souls kiled for giving testimony of God ask in REV. 6:9-10 WHEN WILL YOU JUDGE THOSE ON EARTH FOR KILLING US
now the people in Heaven are NOT stupid. If Rev. 6:1-8 were the beginnign of God’s judgment, the souls wouldn’t be asking God when does judgment begin.
Revelation is chronologic, Rev. 6:12-17 does not precede Rev. 6:1-8, nor Rev. Ch. 13 precede the Rev. CHs. 1 through 12. Christains are amogn the WICKED who do not understand (Daniel 12:10).
Rev. 6:1-8 is Christanity, the four horsemen, claiiming to be truth of God (white horse), Christnaity is Puall’s lying gospel, and the white rides to conquer and conquering. Catholic chruch is original Christendom it went out riding to conquer territory for the Vatican Pharisees’ Catholic altars, and some territory they conquered, and other territory they could not conquer. Christendom has repeatedly tried to conquer Asia and to this day largest Asian nation China, repotedly only 2% to 4% are Christian.
Rev. 6:9-11 souls ask God when does judgment begin
Rev. 6:12-17 The judgment unto victory of God begins