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This Is the End; I Mean the Very End – No More Cycles…

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Me114
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12/01/2006 11:19 PM

THIS IS THE END; I MEAN THE VERY END. NO MORE CYCLES…..

in reply to: The war for your soul is about to get more intense

Ever wonder why Jesus said, in revelation, that He is the Alpha and the Omega?

I mean God lives in Eternity, so why did He say, in the Beginning… in Genesis and in the Gospel of John?

Why did God the Father pick a TIME in His Eternity and call it a Beginning? It would have had to have been a most momentous occasion. Some-THING must have happened in the Father’s experience that was NEW. In the Gospel of John, the beloved disciple says that Jesus is the Light and Life in the Father’s BOSOM.

The other day, in a Christian irc chat room, a new Christian came on and asked us how could God the Father separate the Light from the Darkness when the Sun did NOT exist yet? Go ahead and reread the first few verses in Genesis. Download E-SWORD for free to access the BIBLE on your home computer.

In the Gospel of John, again in only the first few verses, we see that the Light was separated from the Darkness, and that the Darkness did not comprehend the Light.

In all the responses to this thread, not one person shared the Truth.

The Father, God, is ONE. He always gets what He needs. He was ALL-ONE, or ALONE. He wanted to share Himself with an-other. He birthed from His Bosom, His Heart, His Self-Begotten Son, the Word. The Father’s electrical (light) field created magnetism (dark light). The Father separated the dark-light from Himself, BUT, noticed another Light in the Darkness that was like His own Light. This was the Son. This was some-THING NEW. This was, THE BEGINNING.

Only God can REVEAL the TRUTH to us. Just ask Him, believing that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him diligently.

Read all the threads in my SIG below for details on this cosmogeny, which explains why Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega. Jesus is the first because time _out of_ Eternity began with Him. He is the last, because the CYCLES of death and evil DO come to an END, because Jesus defeated Death.

Now ponder this next revelation closely. When you read those threads from my sig, you will come across an explanation of the Evil-Mind-Beings who have been creating creations that are destined for destruction, over and over and over and over again. All the details of why are explained in those threads. However, for this message, take it as a given so that I can explain more here.

Each time they start another creation after the previous is destroyed (principally through entropy), they attach a “denial-mind” to every person who is born. This denial-mind (I call the bad wolf) pretends to be you, and gradually corrupts your soul through deception only, and by your own free will you make yourself into an evil person, who then, when you die, can go back into the void and be sent back (this is the source of reincarnation) in this or the next creation, to repeat, over and over. You NEVER get free.

The difference in THIS CREATION is explained in those threads, but the main point is that Jesus provided for you to identify your soul with HIM by faith, and ALSO, He GIVES YOU the POWER of the Holy Spirit (if you ask) to TEACH you to notice the VOICE of this denial-mind that is attached to you, so that you can STOP listening to and obeying its LIES. Only the Holy Spirit can help you defeat the power of this denial-mind in you; you cannot do it yourself.

Summary:

How do you condemn your own soul to destruction? By listening to the denial-mind that was attached to your flesh and being deceived into thinking that he is the REAL YOU, and acting on his evil ideas with your own free will.

How do you get saved? By believing on Jesus by faith and asking Him to give you the Holy Spirit to teach you the truth, personally. Therefore, you then, must POLICE YOUR THOUGHT LIFE CONTINUOUSLY, to allow the Holy Spirit to teach you God’s voice, your voice, and the bad-wolf’s voice, so that you can HEAR GOD and OBEY, by your own free will, God’s views of reality.

Those people who HEAR GOD, are TAUGHT by GOD, and base their actions on what they have LEARNED from GOD, automatically come to JESUS.

simple.

This creation is the last one of the Evil-Mind-Beings. They are destroyed, NOW. Do not let them destroy your soul with them.

If you work with this understanding then you will realize that the many times that your soul may have come and gone in and out of creations means that these Evil-Mind-Beings are making YOU more and more EVIL each time. Making you more like them. They are making children unto themselves, conformed to their evil image. They HATE physical FORM. They HATE FREE WILL.

They LOVE being a MIND only and teach people that we are only a mind; which is a LIE. They LOVE to LIE. They LOVE DEATH, because it keeps them in power over their fake creations. They are literally God-Hating-Pride in their essence, which they fill your denial-mind with to destroy you. Again, you cannot defeat this insidious ball-and-chain attached to you without the POWER of the true GOD through His Christ and His Holy Spirit. The only reason you will not do this now, is that God-Hating-Pride of your denial-mind who IS NOT THE REAL YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When you were born, the soul and the spirit that God gave you was PURE AND HOLY. When you became the age of accountability, consciously acting on your own free will, you willingly sinned at least once by obeying the lies of the denial-mind attached to your BODY (this is the curse of Adam’s disobedience).

Notice please:

You cannot just say you believe Jesus is the Christ and continue to live your life obeying the evil-mind in your flesh; that is why Jesus said those who DO the WILL of my Father are my relatives. You DO the Father’s Will by DESIRING to know what His will is, and asking HIM to help you with your THOUGHT LIFE.

God Himself will teach you and confirm to you that you are saved.

Understand, that this CON-GAME of the EVIL-MIND BEINGS has been going on, I do not know, HOW LONG. Imagine, however, how sophisticated they have gotten, with their SCAM. The technology they use on us. The false religions they deceive us with. The near to sounding true stuff they deceive us with but never, ever, tells us about the denial-mind they have attached to our flesh which has been PRETENDING to be the real person we are. Without KNOWING that YOU are NOT that VOICE, you cannot be saved! This is what it means to be in darkness; the fact that you have allowed the antichrist to sit on the throne of the heart of your own soul, by your own free will.

The Bible says that whomever you OBEY, he it is, that you worship. You worship the antichrist ALREADY!!!!

WE HAVE ALL BEEN DECEIVED !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Police your thought life, 24/7 NOW until the end. God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit will HELP YOU. ASK GOD FOR HELP policing your thoughts.

GOD IS GOING TO KILL ALL THE DENIAL-MIND CONSTRUCTS; ALL OF THEM WILL BE CRUCIFIED.

You must understand, that if you have allowed your denial-mind construct to take over your soul, then you will be destroyed.

do you see? reread this whole message again!

God does NOT want to destroy you! He never wanted to destroy any of His children. He figured out a way to save ALL OF HIS CHILDREN.

Only the EVIL-MIND-BEINGS are destined for the DEATH that they freely LOVE, and the NON-EXISTENCE that MUST exist in order for God to be all in all.

See my threads in my sig at the bottom, which explain that in order for God to be all in all, then the following things must come from Him somehow.

Life AND Death
Good AND Evil
Existence AND NON-Existence

Notice that the Evil-Mind Beings are Evil and are destined for the death they love and the non-existence that we NEED them to go into so that we can live, forever, in eternity, happily ever after.

God took A TIME out of ETERNITY to MANIFEST THINGS to play with and a BODY to inhabit to manipulate the THINGS. GOD wants to be a MAN.

THINK! It is NO FUN daydreaming about your ideas of creating things, and never making them PHYSICAL so you can BE REAL and play with them, AND enjoy the company of other PEOPLE like yourself.

So, now I have explained enough of the Truth to you, to get you going with the REAL GOD; work on your thought life WITH HIM. DO not, Do not try to do it by yourself, because the denial-mind is already doing at least some of your thinking for you and will TRICK YOU. YOU NEED THE REAL GOD TO HELP YOU.

THIS IS THE END; I MEAN THE VERY END. NO MORE CYCLES AFTER THIS ONE OF DEATH, ENTROPY. NO NEED FOR EVIL TO BALANCE GOOD, THAT IS A LIE.

THIS IS IT.

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  • Pink Slime

    Yahuah is a spirit. He is omni-present. He inhabits eternity (no time). The universe (space, time, matter) did not exist until the “beginning” when He created it.

    The “spirit” runs everything. When I mean “spirit” I mean everything you can see, touch, feel, smell, know and everything you cannot touch, see, feel, smell or know. :wink:

    There is no one like him and we don’t understand eternity, only that he puts the thought in us.

    • Sean

      Oh Pinky, how touching :cry: who would have guessed such a hateful little creature would know a little something about God. :lol:

      https://youtu.be/f68TdgErXkE

  • allendaves

    123’s of true Christianity v popular & damnable heresies

    #1 “ANOTHER JESUS”:
    -“ONE” not triune: Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT….. (NOTE: And yes, the specific Greek and Hebrew words used also and only define one person contrary to the ridiculous obfuscation attempts of some!?!)
    PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (text book examples of prov 26:12)

    -PART 5 Echad, Echad, my God, God is Echad!….:The Greek word pros in Jn 1:1 does not inherently demand multiple different persons because:

    1. The definitions (without forced conclusions stuffed in) are just as equally valid as reference to parts of the same person (modalisim) Your head and your right arm have close relationship to each other; can be facing, towards, relating to, moving to, in the direction of, to, unto, looking to; even at home with, a living union, in the presence of, a common ground, closeness They are still both distinct and different from each other and yet they are of both the same person. Ironically the scriptures use the very same terms to describe father and son.

    2. Ironically and most hypocritically, the trinitarians are trying to appeal to the anthropomorphisms (they claim this passage implies) to demonstrate different persons while at the same time denying the very anthropomorphisms that God himself specifically in scriptures uses to define the son and the son’s relationship to the father. Apparently only the literal anthropomorphisms that trintiarins “see’ exist while the one’s that God himself uses should not be taken too literal or too anthropomorphic or seriously. Is the face anthropomorphic and or literal face or just some metaphor? Either way the problem for trinitarians still exist and simply does not cease with linguistic distractions. There are many different types of faces; face of a clock; face of a mirror; face of one’s palm. Further, the face of one’s palm would be totally consistent with the anthropomorphism that God uses when discussing his own right arm as the son! So either way, a literal and or anthropomorphic face or a metaphorical face in close relationship only leaves the trinitarinas peddling an empty argument hoping no one notices the fact that this argument is nothing more then delusional smoke and mirrors for “the faithful” and for everyone else, well, just “never mind that man behind the curtain”.

    3. You cant appeal to your own desired and or preconceived conclusions as evidence that your methodology in arriving at your conclusions are valid. [ie the use of Jn 1:18 et al as proof that Jn1:1 supports different persons in Jn1:18 et al or visa versa ] How difficult can they make these simple things? The God in heaven is a he but cannot be known except by the he who is the same God in flesh! So why can’t they be the same he again? It should not be difficult to understand since:

    A. The same God who is in heaven is on earth and the difference need only be of circumstance which at least we know that much to be factually true [spirit only v spirit in human flesh] There is no further need or demand for different individual persons since all the different he’s are in fact the same HE!. Trying to claim that God is multiple different “He(s)” who make up the one being either leaves your God to be a “it” that consist of different he(s) or a“God being” who is a he while simultaneously consisting of different individual he(s) [Father-he; Son=he; Holy Spirit=he].

    B. If you find no difficulty in accepting that God is a he that consist of father son and holy spirit also referred to each as a different he and yet all the same he then what is the point to claiming different persons again? How is the multitude of hes who are all the same he show or demand different persons rather than different circumstances of the same person who is in fact “HE”?

    In any case, the trinitarian inconsistency and or incoherence will never be resolved by simply chalking it all up to “how great thou art” unless you willingly and blindly “drink the cool aid” calling it “faith”. True faith is in the words of God (including the specific anthropomorphism God himself uses) not in wild created imaginations of three different persons with different minds, locations and instructions for each other that is somehow not a pantheon of three gods who are “one”!….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh! Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4

    -JOHN 14: 8-20 ….[Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father] ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
    Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”

    -The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural) Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense

    -Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5; TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…

    -This should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……Today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into the image of your vain imaginations!
    You can download the complete FREE book from
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy
    OR
    https://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY
    OR
    http://www.globethics.net/gtl/10920799

    #2 “ANOTHER GOSPEL”:
    -If you ask most people what the Good news or Gospel is they will probably tell you about the virgin birth or Christ death burial and resurrection. This would be rather humorous if it was not so sad considering that for the three and half years of Christ ministry he does not mention hardly ever. However, Christ does spend a lot of time preaching out of the OT scriptures. Now imagine given a report or manual to read and understand, that makes reference to and even quotes other source material and then ignoring that source material when it comes to defining the context and meanings of words in the report or manual you are trying to make sense of. If that seems dysfunctional that is because it is. This is, however, what most people are doing when it comes to understanding sound NT doctrine and or even what the Gospel message of Jesus was. The mystery of the gospel was not the death, burial and resurrection although it is part of it. In fact, death, burial and resurrection was the sign, the only sign, that Jesus gave to validate that the gospel message he was preaching all that time was true……and yet most deny it!?!?!

    -The “2nd coming”… “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 years I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 (in their lifetime) are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the Lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES. The “idea”/ doctrine that Jesus has not yet returned but “soon any day now soon” does not just make God out a liar; it is not just ridiculous but makes Christianity a mockery, A pathetic “ship of fools”!?!
    -The following example excerpt from Bertrand Russell: sometimes quoted by atheist et al and from his published work “Why I Am Not A Christian”
    Defects in Christ’s Teaching
    Having granted the excellence of these maxims, I come to certain points in which I do not believe that one can grant either the superlative wisdom or the superlative goodness of Christ as depicted in the Gospels; …. I am concerned with Christ as He appears in the Gospels, taking the Gospel narrative as it stands, and there one does find some things that do not seem to be very wise. For one thing, he certainly thought that His second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the people who were living at that time. There are a great many texts that prove that. He says, for instance, “Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of Man be come.” Then he says, “There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom”; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed that His second coming would happen during the lifetime of many then living. That was the belief of His earlier followers, and it was the basis of a good deal of His moral teaching. When He said, “Take no thought for the morrow,” and things of that sort, it was very largely because He thought that the second coming was going to be very soon, and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count. I have, as a matter of fact, known some Christians who did believe that the second coming was imminent. I knew a parson who frightened his congregation terribly by telling them that the second coming was very imminent indeed, but they were much consoled when they found that he was planting trees in his garden. The early Christians did really believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the second coming was imminent. In that respect, clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise.
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom
    OR
    http://www.globethics.net/gtl/5455069
    OR
    https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM
    Amazon/Barns & Nobel et al
    978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN)

    #3 GOD LOVES EVERYONE; Jesus Died for “you”…… Just “come as you are”
    Does God love you?….”Probably” NOT!….and NO Jesus did not die for everyone!?!……There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups : A. The predestined damned B. the “many” called C. The “Few” Chosen
    Predestination….its true..its all true… God does NOT love everyone:

    Prov 8: 17. I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME …………
    1John 5:3. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments:

    (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD

    (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,

    (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
    will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”

    PS: “The world” that God so loved was not the Roman world nor the world of the Maya nor the world you imagined in your head that God specifically told them NOT TO LOVE!?!
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/306868420/Most-True-Christians-Go-to-Hell
    OR
    http://www.globethics.net/gtl/10920800
    OR
    https://www.academia.edu/25217564/Most_True_Christains_Go_to_Hell

    THE THIEF-BAPTISM-GRACE& THE NAME-LORD & LT

    “whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be saved”
    ………So WHAT “NAME” did you “CALL UPON”?……
    Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD
    Ps 138:2. praise THY NAME … for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME -
    NOTE: God placed His “THE WORD” ABOVE all of God’s various NAMEs – and Jesus NAME IS called “THE WORD” no other name saves. The MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is “THE WORD”; Not letters that spell “word” but the sayings/ doctrine/commands. It does NOT say “thy word is given a name above other names because here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names.
    Isaiah 52:1. . 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ..What NAME do you “KNOW”.?
    1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./ Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…
    “AT the name OF JESUS”…..Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus…just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name…likewise the name OF JESUS is NOT the letters J-E-S-U-S. Why would anyone think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great and or “unspeakable )
    Rev 3:8 kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME; …
    .Jn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME And they have KEPT THY WORD.;
    THE WORD is THE NAME above every name that saves us 1Pt 3:21 The ONE baptism(Eph 4:5) is into THE WORD ( which is also baptism in the Holy spirit Jn 6:63the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit ) ..ALL the sayings doctrines and commands….what did THE WORD that became flesh command? (Mat 28:19)…..what did THE WORD exemplify? (Mat 3:15/ Jn 4:1)………among other things…..YES .water baptism is just as essential and necessary for much a part of salvation (1Pt 3:21) as is keeping one self away from works of the flesh (Gal 5:21)….In fact obedience to the command of water baptism is specifically identified as the act of calling on the name of the Lord (Col 2:12 “……though the operation[work] of God” CAN ANY MAN BE SAVED WITHOUT GOD WORKING ON HIM?) …..THE WORD OF GOD is the name of God that men call upon OR…OR ..they DENY with their disobedience
    The scriptures tell us almost nothing about the thief’s life. However, the scriptures tell us a great deal about Christ life……Jesus had been around for 3.5 years before the cross and was Baptizing (Jn 4:1-2 in fact He instructed his disciples to do so and did many more then John the Baptist ever did) …..Those who try to appeal to the thief on the cross assume the thief had never heard of Jesus preaching and had never ever been baptized….The burden of Proof is on those who say baptism is not essential! ………..You can’t claim a logically valid “non-essentiality” doctrinal argument on ANYTHING based on what the scriptures do not say and in spite of the things it clearly does state to the opposite effect!…That is like looking at the constitutional law and then basing a argument against a constitutional principle in law based on the fact that history did not record for us what some unknown cattle thief did or did not do a 150 years ago?!?! What??..Who cares?? We know what the constitution did say 150 years ago. I don’t know of any Law school that bases its teaching on constitutional law based on what history does not tell us about unknown cattle thieves!?! ..Jesus command, preached & practiced Baptism so did the apostles ….To build one’s theology on the fact that the scriptures do not tell us ANY detail(s) of the thief’s life before the cross (we know almost absolutely nothing about the thief!!) it is quite foolish and willfully ignorant of what the scriptures do say about baptism…….so those who try to use the thief are in effect building their house on the sand of what scriptures do not say about a thief in spite of what the scriptures do specifically tell us about baptism!?!… “Their damnation is just” comes to mind…
    https://www.scribd.com/document/326686356/Thief-Cross-3D OR https://www.academia.edu/23846490/Thief_and_Cross_3D

    • jknbt

      nobody ever reads your crap, allen. why do you keep putting this flatulence up?

      • Anonymous

        Agreed. I just skip over this long stupid screed. Its like horse shit on a page.. Try to spam it, but the button wont take.

        Only case in the entire Bible where TIME is actually objectively trackable in a literal, not symbolic sense, is verse that says- “the generation who have seen the rise of “Israel” will see the End Times fulfillment of prophecies come to pass.” Most of those from that generation will soon be dead, and NOTHING much has happened to fulfill anything.
        Proving the ‘Bible’ is more masonic bloodline lies to control the cattle goyim- us. This one verse, verifies that the entire schtik was and is a LIE from the beginning

  • Andy

    *the universe was not created, but has always existed*

    the first law of thermodynamics:
    *no matter nor energy can be created nor destroyed, only its form can be altered* – this is immutable, universal & natural LAW, proven 100% accurate, 100% of the time, for 100% of the observable universe, both micro & macro & :arrow: without exception

    *no matter nor energy can be created* – seeing the universe is made of matter & energy, it quite simply cannot have been created, it has always existed, only its form has altered

    *only its form can be altered* – the Big Bang cannot have been the point of creation, only a point of “alteration of form” in accordance with UNIVERSAL LAW and there is ZERO evidence to the contrary

    *the universe was not created, but has always existed* – there can be no creator, for that which was not created

    humans have been inventing “gods of the gaps” throughout the entirety of human history and of the thousands of gods invented, none have been demonstrated to actually exist – humans are still running with their “gods of the gaps” to this day

    if anyone can demonstrate that the universe was in fact created and has not always existed(as plainly stated by natural universal law), only then could one even consider the possibility of a ‘creator’

    • Psp

      With God all is possible. He did create the 3d universe. You have been decieved by what is an illusion if you think otherwise. Much of this “evidence” is actually manipulation by dark spiritual forces and you cant take that to the bank and all the nutty professors!

      • Andy

        an assertion borne of ignorance with no substantiating evidence, how unusual :roll:

        can you substantiate the claim that the universe was created?
        can you prove universal natural LAW wrong?

        have at it

        • masterofnone

          Define to me,the unknown energy,that allows your heart to beat and your brain to involuntarily control functions of breathing….where does the “lifeforce”come from….what is this so called “lifeforce”
          The “theory”of evolution and natural law is easily explained….but what about the broader aspects of things?even as simple as the thoughts we may dispute to each other….what is actually taking place?…
          Peace to you

          • Andy

            it’s called electricity

  • Firmament Does Exist

    Ignorance.

  • 7seals

    You are not familiar with Hierarchy of Gods.
    The two witnesses do:
    http://esocenter.ru/_fr/13/____-2.pdf
    the begginning of the article: http://esocenter.ru/_fr/13/____-1.pdf
    One of the witnesses is Russian.

    • b4

      your all delusional–if god was reading your bullshit he would be laughing his ass off at all your childish nonsense–the bible is the book of wrath and judgement—god has no wrath nor judgement–only stupid,petty,immature humans have wrath and judgement because they are agents of satan–god does not read the bible–never has–never will–was not written by god either–some insane homeless dudes in a cave wrote it,inspired by satan,not god–the word of men,not god–god is way above the petty nonsense of humans–god is never like us–god loves all his stupid,foolish humans,even evil hateful bible thumpers,christians–jesus in his day told us salvation is gurrrraaannnteed for all,no hail marys or forgiveness needed–the bible thumpers did not like hearing that so they killed him–the bible thumpers of today would do the same,given half a chance–all you insane bastards keep talking your shit like you know god–all you know is slogans,phrases out of the book of satan–complete bullshit,but keep spouting your nonsense if it makes your ego,self righteousness swell like a giant dead pig–god doesn’t care about your bullshit

  • stompk

    Those who seek truth, will ultimately find God.

  • Real American Hero

    Calling people hateful because they disagree with you is not being a christian…….

  • Anonymous

    Bully for him. Seems he holds all the cards. No worries. Ash’s to ash’s, dust to dust………

  • Johann Needlesmuggler

    Jesus is Saturn/Satan…hence the rings around the head. Jesus in numerology even equals 666. The people are so dumb they never bother to verify where the b.s. they are indoctrinated with comes from. Jesus is their guy. Their creation. Their trick. The proof is in the utter arrogant hypocrisy of all Christians. They are ignorant as hell standing up on their imagined moral high ground always telling others what they should do…get saved, stop this or that, while never looking at their own miserable deeds BC they are “forgiven” or saved by grace. Laughable. Hypocritical blind fools following their Jesus right over the cliff like the powers that be planned for you to do.

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