Concentration Camps In The US?
Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:17
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For at least the last ten years, there have been persistent stories on the ‘net about the existence of concentration camps in the US. The stories are mostly re-posts of what someone else wrote years ago. These camps exist, we are told, “fully staffed and ready to use”. If that be true, then the guards who staff these camps are halfway to their government retirement and haven’t yet seen one prisoner! The government is going to round up the dissidents and put them into concentration camps. And that’s as far as the story goes. But, then what?
Let’s take this concentration camp story and run with it. No matter who is telling the tale, the narrative ends with “X” number of prisoners in the camp[s]. Hundreds of camps. Thousands of people. They’re going to round us all up and put us in one of them. We’ll go there in boxcars with shackles. We’re going to be sorted out by blue list and red list. I know, ’cause Pam Schuffert told us so.
And that’s as far as the story line goes.
But then what? In one version of the concentration camp myth, the camps are capable of holding an average of over 40,000 people. That’s a fairly large town. A huge mass of people to cram into one concentration camp. Let’s skip over the logistical problems with that and continue with the myth.
What happens after that? The prisoners arrive at the camp. Then what?
What is the government going to do with them? Gas them? Make lamp shades out of their skin? What will they do with the carcasses? Soylent Green?
Execute them by firing squad? Same problem. What do you do with the bodies? 40,000 dead bodies is a big problem. Multiply that by 600 camps, or 800 camps, depending on who is telling the story. Mass graves? You gotta be kidding.
Or maybe they’ll just incinerate them, as they did in the German concentration camps? O.K. Let’s run with that possibility. In a newspaper interview with the owner of a crematorium in Minneapolis several years ago, he said that the ash residue of an average adult body weighs about four pounds. Multiply that by 40,000 cremated inmates and you’ll get enough ash to fill about one and a half railroad hopper cars.
Then multiply that by 600 camps. Now you have a mountain of ash. About 900 railroad cars filled with ash. What will they do with the ash? Where will they find the labor force to operate the ovens, load up the rail cars, and then dispose of the ash? The owner of the crematorium said that it takes about 33 gallons of oil to totally incinerate a body. I’m assuming he means refined oil, as in kerosene or heating oil. As of this writing, heating oil is $2.75 on the CNN market report. That’s over $90 per body, unless they get a large user discount. If Halliburton supplies the fuel, the price will be higher!
Maybe they’ll put the prisoners to work. Maybe these are labor camps. That’s what those camps in Germany were. They were labor camps. They would need housing for the prisoner work force. They’ll need that and food preparation and sanitation and where will the prisoners be working? On site? Now we have 600-800 prison labor camps with manufacturing facilities on site. Manufacturing facilities require fuel and water and waste disposal and transportation for raw materials in and finished products out. And a market for all those finished products. But with 40 million Americans in prison camps, who is going to buy the products?
Maybe they’ll use them as contract labor for outside the prison? That’s going to take a larger staff than it takes to man the guard towers. There must be transport to and from the manufacturing facilities. Guards and security for the work place, too. They’ll need a larger administrative staff, plus a maintenance staff for the transport vehicles.
What happens to the people who were displaced by the prison labor force? They go on welfare? Emmigrate to ………., well, there is no other place to go. Unemployed Americans as reverse-wetbacks sneaking into Mexico? That ain’t gonna happen. Sneaking into Canada? The Canadians are not likely to welcome them, either.
When they round up all the prisoners, will they take the whole family, or just the politically savvy ones in the family? What about the children? Do they go to the camps, too? Do they go to school there at the camps? Become part of the prison labor force? Or will they be sold to the Illuminati to be used for ritual sacrifice? Or sent to Asia for the sex market? Or sent to Israel for the organ donor market rumored to exist there?
Concentration camps in America. Six hundred of them or eight hundred of them, depending on who is telling the tale. They’re going to declare martial law and round up all the political dissidents, gun owners, christians, and patriots. That’s the way the narrative reads. The government is going to fill up these camps with people who might be a bother to them.
Then what?
Dragon
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They’re all going to Club-FEMA for a little R and R.
Hey Dragon, Go get your Flu Shot.
This is no laughing matter. It is logistically possible. Dont forget we are looking at a WW II type scenario. It happened there didn’t it? Besides the people who would be doing this own everything; it would cost them nothing. We already know what happens when despotic rulers round up the population. This is not a conspiracy theory; it has actually happened many times in history. None of the people who it happened to thought it could happen to them. The right conditions are present in our nation today.
The flouride levels must be extremely high in Dragon’s community.
This is the problem: It HAS happened repeatedly in the past. Political conditions are ripe for it to happen here. The camps, I understand, are not blatantly listed under FEMA, etc, they are covertly mentioned in other documents and called by other, harmless names. But, I believe they exist.
Listen to the “New” tone of the “Progressive” dialogue/rage which is now turning violent. Take a close look at the security apparatus that Big Sis is setting up nationwide (except the border). Listen to Obama talk about an “Armed Civilian Force as big as the military and under the State Department”
Anyone not thinking this is a possibility is a useful idiot!
Sorry, the camps are there and if you watched Jesse Ventura’s conspiracy theory show you can see him visit one and confront the congressman who co-sponsored the bill to build them. He (the congressman) attempts to explain why they were built but his explanation is a lame as this article. The camps exist. How they plan to run them or who goes there or what they do with the bodies if any are good questions I suppose and it will take someone other than the author to answer. But the camps exist.
I suppose for starters they could run them the way they ran them when we had them before in this country for the Japanese Americans.
As previously shown when rounding people into control area’s. i.e. (prisons, reservations, interment camps) Destruction of the physical apparatus of humans is mostly unnecessary in the control of “enemies of the state”. The withering of the will to live when subjected to less than equitable situation makes people easy to push around for years to come. or something like that/
You are looking to old technology for a body disposal solution. In the early 1980′s there was an autoclave with high volume water flush which could reduce a human body to talcum powder in 1 1/4 seconds and the outley water was at such a high volume you probably not notice a change in water color.
Medical waste disposal is a chemical which reduces flesh to a syrup which is flushed into our normal sanitary sewers.
undetecable body disposal is not a problem
There are many articles and video’s on the FEMA camps. The fact that they do exist and our gov’t does not want to talk about them should be the real reason for any concern. Probably would cause too much public panic to reveal any real reasons(catastrophic earth events, public panic if ufo’s and aliens are real, and possibility of the dollar collapsing). The truth would be nice, but preparedness is the best option. Word on non mainstream media is that any of the above reasons are why the camps exist, I’d say. As far as disposing of our bodies, they probably have a plan too, but of course that will not be revealed until when and if it happens.
I don’t envision a “traditional” prison camp scenario. I think they will be utilized when the proverbial sh*t hits the fan. Some people may be forced into them, but the majority will likely go there voluntarily to escape the chaos, tribalism, and savagery that is likely in the event of a complete governmental collapse. They may not kill the people, but merely take away their rights. Labor would be exchanged for the mere safety of being inside a secure facility, rationed food, and shelter.
You should check into the existence of USNORTHCOM CONPLAN 3502 “Civil Disturbance Operations” which is the new version of GARDEN PLOT. I discovered notes on a .mil server showing they are revising this plan, and other references proving that warrantless searches and military-operated detention facilities are included in the plan.
I have already seen mass arrests, search, targeting etc happen at the 2008RNC and 2009 G20 so this type of thing is pretty tangible. For documented infos see
http://tc.indymedia.org/2010/nov/tc-indymedia-exclusive-secret-trigger-blueprint-emergency-domestic-military-crackdown-plan-
and the youtube runthru
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaacTx9oi1A
“Execute them by firing squad? Same problem. What do you do with the bodies? 40,000 dead bodies is a big problem. Multiply that by 600 camps, or 800 camps, depending on who is telling the story. Mass graves? You gotta be kidding.”
Jct: Stalin figured out how to kill 30 million people, do you really think our monsters at FEMA can’t too? They went to the same school of torture and murder. Of course, Stalin didn’t use expensive gas chambers with powerful ventilators and expensive poison gas, he just used a 2-cent bullet to the back of the head and a big hole.
I guess our government was asking for “re-education”specialists because they needed some billets to fill up…. seems like DRAGON has either gotten one too many flu shots or he is snorting Aspartame. Someone should tie him to a chair and force feed him the Alex Jones Channel…. where everything he says can be VERIFIED.
DRAGON- STOP LIVING WITH YOUR EYES WIDE SHUT
> Maybe they’ll put the prisoners to work.
No. Corporations would outsource the work to an overseas prison work camp that has lower costs (as federal employees, US camp guards would be unionised with good wages, full health coverage, and decent pensions).
> Then what?
ATS, godlike productions, and B4IN will have fewer posts and MUCH shorter comments sections. Then we Canadians will rule the commentariat with facts and logic!
The main problem with this site, is that any idiot can post an article, right or wrong.
the idiot that posted this (so called) article is flat wrong.
I’ve seen 5 of these camps, know the security company that guarded 5 others while they were revamped from military base to high-security penal colonies, and have photos of 12 others.
This debate provides a curious peek into the burdened soul of the US. The once very brave and confident Americans are now not so direct in their expression. The once rich, lively, open, honest debate, the very Parthenon of individual liberty, silently suffering the depredations of character bankrupt from trading the certainty of hard work, faith and slow growth of truth for an immediate impossible whim of fairness.. for all. Increasing demand for broader & higher levels of tolerances surpassed self-destruction and settled tightly in between the interface of observation and reason. As the definition of hate speech, with an appetite for anything smelling of truth, grew to consume the very hope of America, the last breathe of dissent suffocated under the weight of it’s own lost children. I recall a time within 2 decades where the conversion of an army base to an updated facility with a 40,000 person capacity would actually bring a sense of relief to a community susceptible to floods, tornadoes, or an occasional bomb scare. Such a facility resembles whatever Americans expect of their govt. FEMA is the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Funny no one sees the “ink blot” as a shelter, if needed in crisis. To bicker about US internment camps suggests my friends, we are already imprisoned. When free people are governing themselves, they need not quarrel such topics.
[PS:Israel I still have your back!]
Um youtube is full of these video’s. Train tracks stop just outside the gates of these places? Shit is about to go down all across this planet. If you think it can’t happen in the USA then you are crazy. Better stock up on food and supplies and wait it out.
If anyone has doubts about the existence of these camps and their evil purpose, may I suggest you read up on Bill Gates and Ted Turners’ statement about population control.
Remember, them that got the gold make the rules……
It has been done before and with modern technology it´s very possible. As for the pupose; what do you think the millions of 3-person coffins could be for? It looks very much like a piece of the puzzle of de-population of the Planet and collecting all our gold in nice heaps to greet the coming aliens.
Wew, Dragon, Dragon. Hasn’t anybody told you that dragons are supposed to be wise? There are other animals you could use that would be more fitting, like sloth, for example. Have you not been noticing how the police are behaving lately? Are you not aware of the chemtrail phenomena? Are you not aware that nobody at government is really minding the store in your behalf lately? If you knew even part of what I know, you would realize that all your logistical arguments are specious. So what if burning 40 million bodies in one day would blot out the sun for a month and require ten thousand soldiers to do the work? Who cares? There are ten thousand soldiers on call 24/7 that take orders and do what they are told to the best of their ability. Are you not aware that millions of newborn babies are slaughtered and mp government agency cares? If no government agency cares about helpless human babies getting butchered routinely every day, ripped into pieces and thrown into whatever dumpster is handy, how could you possibly imagine that the same government agencies care about you and yours? Methinks you are a little boy walking through a graveyard and yelling, “This is not a graveyard! This not a graveyard!” Hey, son of man, it’s a graveyard. Thrusting head in sand will not make it go away.
This guy is an idiot! Living in a fantasy world.
Posted by m44freedom. I believe they are planning and have made contingency plans for dissents and critical thinking American’s opposing their NWO final phase. Think about this scenario: a number of different type incident’s could trigger panic and disruption of normal life as we know it here in America, when it happens..and it’s looking like it very well indeed could happen, I mean come on folks..it’s happened everywhere else in the world..people in the United States believe somehow there immune. But when it happens our beloved government will do just like they did at hurricane Katrina…only much much…much slower of response..and of course this will be a huge incident… want to know why there slow response to enforce martial-law? So we can kill each other off by the millions! We are the most heavily armed country in the world per civilian per square mile. If I were commanding my troops, I would set back until the swarms of guerrilla type warfare of patriots, ex-military and pissed off civilians dissipate. Divide and Conquer will be the order of the day.. Also..they will need to see how many commanders of active military warships and ground troops will not follow through with the martial-law orders..this takes time..meanwhile there’s chaos in the streets of America. Back to FEMA camps..All these camps are for AFTER the cleansing of population reduction operations!…Americans killing each other over food and water will be the first phase, they will probably be releasing some form of biological agent at the same time this system crash occurs. Also…I believe that black-ops covert government’s posses a anti-matter weapon which could very easily target human beings and therefore there won’t be any body to dispose! Our beloved government I believe will set back until the dust clears….then bring in UN troops during the second phase…and believe me foreign soldiers will have no problem executing power and authority over US citizens during full blown martial-law. What citizens are left will do anything for food and water and law and order! As far as any body disposal? Please…someone will have to clean up the mess! Research Denver International Airport…I believe this will be their main center for body disposal after population reduction, thousands of bodies flushed like a toilet stool down into an ocean channel below ground in Colorado. What I have just written sounds sinister as hell doesn’t it. Well chances are something very close to what I just described will most likely become a reality in the near future. Enjoy your freedoms for everyday is a blessing…soon there will be an evil sweep over the world that will make all the other crimes of humanity look very small. I am a true patriot and love this country…but the country I believed in is fading very quickly…men of honor and integrity are becoming a dieing breed…this is why they always said “Money is the Root of all Evil”! Stay Lock n Loaded and good luck to you my fellow man who believes in the Constitution and righteous justice.
A little concentration is in order. imho
I honestly think it has to do with more than any of this. Every story we can come with is part of Some lie that leaves us in the world of the unexpected. So even though you think you know…. it takes alot more digging to really know. The best thing any of us can do is remain alert and prepared.
The best I get – info wise – is that when the pole shifts and the SHTF, there are going to be a lot of hungry and angry people still surviving.
They will be angry as they will figure out that .gov knew and has lied to them since 1983.
These people will have to be disposed of, hence the old ‘free showers’ trick will be employed.
The guards and staff will basically be willing to work for food and a warm place to sleep. Maybe some booze and drug a la what the Ukrainians & Balts red’d for operating Hitler’s Death Camps.
the times they are changing may god be with us all. I havent even lived life yet and this is what im suppose to expect. what is going on in american these days. This country is not the country i was raised up to respect. like im tryna figure this out so the rich want all of us dead right. remember this its more of us than it is of them remember survival of the fittest and more gun rights please we need it. and check this site out http://www.futuretimeline.net
To coin a colorado phrase “every snowflake in an avalanche will individually claim its innocence”. FEMA camps are not a threat alone. When you combine the FEMA camps with the HAARP facilities, the fake terrorists, the TSA and DHS, Chemtrails, you have the makings for a huge avalanche. Scenario: HAARP is used to create a “natural disaster”, people must be evacuated. Instead of sending everyone to Houston, San Antonio, or Dallas, it would be easier to send them to FEMA camps. That way they are isolated the only news they get is fed to them. The “natural disaster” can then cause long term effects that the PTB’s can make up to keep you detained for your own protection. The same with a “terrorist” attack. You see you are missing the point, the PTB’s don’t want us, they want the land we occupy. They want us out of the way so they can extract all of the natural resources available from our land for their own “preservation”. If we rot in a “fema camp” because we are told that an area is still “unsafe to occupy”, Its the perfect storm for them to rob us blind.
The powers that were have already lost their opportunity to pull off a stunt like this. Though it may be alarming to discover that the United States doesn’t actually make the world go round, it’s true. Just look at the news. Even mainstream media is airing stories that display exactly what happens when “leaders” forget where their power and privilege come from and ignore the responsibilities that come with that power. I don’t doubt that there are a number of depopulation/manipulation/exploitation plans, but plans are far different than actions. Plans just take an imagination, whereas actions require resources, power, etc. The world has had enough of the bullshit American monopoly game, including many Americans, and the board is being cleared. Stay alert and things will be just fine.
Idiots have been pushing this nonsense for 55 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Mental_Health_Enabling_Act
To terry….You won’t say they are idiots when you board a train! To nowhere. LOL. I wish heaven had internet connection so I could read all the post after the Rapture, and during the Anti christ rule. A lot of people are going to be in for a big huge suprise real soon. And yes, its true and about to happen very soon. So pick up a Bible and get ready!
> And yes, its true and about to happen very soon.
Come on WVT, be honest, Bible prophecy has a bad record of predicting the end. Show a little modesty.
Yes and here’s whats happening
Daniel 8:23-25 (New Century Version)
23 “When the end comes near for those kingdoms, a bold and cruel king who tells lies will come. This will happen when many people have turned against God.24 This king will be very powerful, but his power will not come from himself. He will cause terrible destruction and will be successful in everything he does. He will destroy powerful people and even God’s holy people.25 This king will succeed by using lies and force. He will think that he is very important. He will destroy many people without warning; he will try to fight even the Prince of princes! But that cruel king will be destroyed, and not by human power.
STOP, THINK, CONNECT – Daniel 8:23-25 to the events of the Anglo American world power….. seen over 2500 years ago.
PS.. Its almost dinner time.
(Revelation 19:17-18) 17 I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, 18 that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”
(Revelation 16:13-14) 13 And I saw three unclean inspired expressions [that looked] like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.
How is the terrorism propaganda working for them?! THEY are being lead to the slaughter. Their own!
Hey, remember that highest offices of the U.S. government pulled off day 9-11, coming uncomfortably close on the heels of the OK City Murrah bombing in which they took out a day care center of children, among other innocents. Also recall that not a single BATF official was working in the building that day, as they all had pressing business elsewhere. Not even the BATF janitor or wash woman showed up that day. Did said highest U.S. government offices care about murdering several thousand citizens or worry about how to dispose of bodies or whether any other realities of the operation would appear “unseemly?” Ha, ha, ha. They didn’t even worry about how to dispose of the monster sized 757 that they blithely claimed smashed into the Pentagon to totally disintegrate into thin air, as a puff of smoke. They simply told a gullible public, “The plane hit the building so hard it totally disintegrated. Admittedly, it was the very first time in history that such a thing has ever happened, but there is always a first time for everything.” And what about the giant skyskrapers that dropped instantly in their own footprints, virtually vaporized by a couple of thousand gallons of “burning jet fuel?” NIST’s “scientific” findings, after more than ten years cogitating night and day on how to prove it was jet fuel but couldn’t come up with anything even close to plausible, pleaded with the public, “That this is the first time in history that such a thing has ever happened does not mean it couldn’t have happened just this once. Didn’t a 757 just totally disentegrate on impact at the Pentagon, leaving not a trace of wreckage, spiraling into the air as vapor? Miracles do happen, you know. Thus, NIST calls upon all Americans just to have faith that it happened this way just this one time. Please? Pretty please?” Some scientific explanation, huh? Ha, ha, ha. Folks, when it’s time to vaporize 100 million American citizens, just hope you have some method of escape, right? Otherwise, you can bet you will be taking the long sleep with your fellow 100 million. Citizens have exactly as many rights as the government is willing to grant, no more, no less. Welcome to reality, fellow citizens. I’ve been here awhile. And drat, I probably have another seventy or so to continue, because I’m too cantankerous to give them permission to murder me. I keep saying, “Hell no, I won’t go!” It must be magic, because they take people around me instead.