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A List Of 115 Dead Scientists… Assassinated?

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#115

110727.Warfield.225 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Zachary Greene Warfield, 35, died July 4 in a boating accident on the Potomac River. Zack was a co-founder and a member of the Board of Directors for Omnis, Inc., a McLean, VA-based strategic consulting firm for the intelligence, defense and national security communities. He spearheaded major research initiatives and, in addition to helping steer the company, was directly involved in numerous projects, including analytic training and technology consulting. Prior to founding Omnis, Zack was an engineer and analyst for the U.S. Government and private industry. As a science and technology analyst, he assessed missile and space systems, managed technical contracts, and investigated Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) program as a member of the Iraq Survey Group, serving in Baghdad on two separate occasions.

As an engineer, he worked on aerospace projects for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), and private industry. Most notably, Zack designed critical guidance systems that ensured a successful landing for the Mars Exploration Rovers, Spirit and Opportunity; his name is inscribed on one of the rovers, and remains on Mars today.

#114 

110722.Jon .Widom 1 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Jonathan Widom, 55, died July 18 of an apparent heart attack. He was a professor of Molecular Biosciences in the Weinberg College of Arts and Sciences at Northwestern University. Widom focused on how DNA is packaged into chromosomes — and the location of nucleosomes specifically. Colleagues said the work has had profound implications for how genes are able to be read in the cell and how mutations outside of the regions that encode proteins can lead to errors and disease.

#112-113

 Fanjun Meng, 29, and Chunyang Zhang, 26, drowned in a Branson hotel swimming pool. Both were from China and working in the anatomic pathology lab at the University of Missouri-Columbia. Meng was a visiting scholar and his wife, Zhang, was a research specialist, according to information at the university’s website. Meng was working on research looking at a possible link between pesticides and Parkinson’s disease.Police said the investigation is ongoing as to the cause of the drowning but had said earlier there was no sign of foul play.

#108-112

 Andrei Tropinov, Sergei Rizhov, Gennadi Benyok, Nicolai Tronov and Valery Lyalin, in a Russian plane crash. The five scientists were employed at the Hydropress factory, a member of Russia’s state nuclear corporation and had assisted in the development of Iran’s nuclear plant. Theyworked at the Bushehr nuclear power plant and helped to complete construction of it. Officially Russian investigators say that human error and technical malfunction caused the deadly crash, which killed 45 and left 8 passengers surviving.

 

#107

Rodger Lynn Dickey, 56, from an apparent suicide Mar. 18 after he jumped from the Gorge Bridge. Dickey was a senior nuclear engineer with over 30 years of experience in support of the design, construction, start-up, and operation of commercial and government nuclear facilities. His expertise was in nuclear safety programmatic assessment, regulatory compliance, hazard assessment, safety analysis, and safety basis documentation. He completed project tasks in nuclear engineering design and application, nuclear waste management, project management, and risk management. His technical support experience included nuclear facility licensing, radiation protection, health and safety program assessments, operational readiness assessments, and systems engineering.

#106

110221.Gregory.Stone A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Gregory Stone, 54, from an unknown illness Feb. 17. Stone, who was quoted extensively in many publications internationally after last year’s BP oil leak, was the director of the renowned Wave-Current Information System. Stone quickly established himself as an internationally respected coastal scientist who produced cutting-edge research and attracted millions of dollars of research support to LSU. As part of his research, he and the CSI Field Support Group developed a series of offshore instrumented stations to monitor wind, waves and currents that impact the Louisiana coast. The system is used by many fishermen and scientists to monitor wind, waves and currents off the Louisiana coast. Stone was a great researcher, teacher, mentor and family man.

#105

110214.BradleyC.Livezey A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Bradley C. Livezey, 56, died in a car crash Feb. 8. Livezey knew nearly everything about the songs of birds and was considered the top anatomist. Livezey, curator of The Carnegie Museum of Natural History, never gave up researching unsolved mysteries of the world’s 20,000 or so avian species. Carnegie curator since 1993, Livezey oversaw a collection of nearly 195,000 specimens of birds, the country’s ninth largest. Livezey died in a two-car crash on Route 910, authorities said. An autopsy revealed he died from injuries to the head and trunk, the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s Office said. Northern Regional Police are investigating.

#104

110117.mohammadi2 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Dr Massoud Ali Mohammadi, 50, was assassinated Jan. 11 when a remote-control bomb inside a motorcycle near his car was detonated. This professor of nuclear physics at Tehran University was politically active and his name was on a list of Tehran University staff who supported Mir Hossein Mousavi according to Newsweek. The London Times reports that Dr. Ali-Mohammadi told his students to speak out against the unjust elections. He stated “We have to stand up to this lot. Don’t be afraid of a bullet. It only hurts at the beginning.” Iran seems to be systematically assassinating high level professors and doctors who speak out against the regime of President Ahmadinejad. However, Iran proclaims that Israel and America used the “killing as a means of thwarting the country’s nuclear program” per Newsweek.

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Died 2010

#103

110105.John .P.Wheeler.III A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

John (Jack) P. Wheeler III, 66. last seen Dec. 30 found dead in a Delaware landfill, fought to get the Vietnam Memorial built and served in two Bush administrations. His death has been ruled a homicide by Newark, Del. police. Wheeler graduated from West Point in 1966, and had a law degree from Yale and a business degree from Harvard. His military career included serving in the office of the Secretary of Defense and writing a manual on the effectiveness of biological and chemical weapons, which recommended that the United States not use biological weapons.

#102

110203.Mark .A.Smith A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Mark A. Smith, 45. Died Nov. 15 renowned Alzheimer’s disease researcher has died after being hit by a car in Ohio. Smith was a pathology professor at Case Western Reserve University and director of basic science research at the university’s memory and cognition center. He also was executive director of the American Aging Association and co-editor-in-chief of the Journal of Alzheimer’s Disease. He is listed as the No. 3 “most prolific” Alzheimer’s disease researcher, with 405 papers written, by the international medical Journal.

#101

101117.Chitra.Chauhan A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Chitra Chauhan, 33. Died Nov. 15 was found dead in an apparent suicide by cyanide at a Temple Terrace hotel, police said. Chauhan left a suicide note saying she used cyanide. Hazmat team officials said the cyanide was found only in granular form, meaning it was not considered dangerous outside of the room it was found in. The chemical is considered more dangerous in a liquid or gas form. Potassium Cyanide, the apparent cause of death, is a chemical commonly used by universities in teaching chemistry and conducting research, but it was not used in the research projects she was working on. Chauhan, a molecular biologist, was a post-doctoral researcher in the Global Health department in the College of Public Health. She earned her doctorate from the Institute of Genomics and Integrative Biology in New Delhi, India, in 2005, then studied mosquitoes and disease transmission at the University of Notre Dame.

#100

100715.Franco.Cerrina A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Franco Cerrina, 62. Died July 12 was found dead in a lab at BU’s Photonics Center on Monday morning. The cause of death is not yet known, but have ruled out homicide. Cerrina joined the faculty of BU in 2008 after spending 24 years on the faculty at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He co-founded five companies, including NimbleGen Systems, Genetic Assemblies (merged with Codon Devices in 2006), Codon Devices, Biolitho, and Gen9, according to Nanowerk News. NimbleGen, a Madison, WI-based provider of DNA microarray technology, was sold to Basel, Switzerland-based Roche in 2007 for $272.5 million. Cerrina, chairman of the electrical and computer engineering department, came to BU two years ago from the University of Wisconsin at Madison as a leading scholar in optics, lithography, and nanotechnology, according to his biography on the university website. The scholar was responsible for establishing a new laboratory in the Photonics Center.

#99

 Vajinder Toor, 34. Died April 26 shot and killed outside his home in Branford, Conn. Toor worked at Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center in New York before joining Yale.

#98

100412.Morrissey A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Joseph Morrissey, 46. Died April 6 as a victim of a home invasion. The autopsy revealed that the professor died from a stab wound. Although the cause of death was first identified as a gun shot wound, the autopsy revealed that the professor died from a stab wound. Morrissey joined NSU in May 2009 as an associate professor and taught one elective class on immunopharmacology in the College of Pharmacy.

#97

100212.Maria .Ragland.Davis A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Maria Ragland Davis, 52. Died February 13 at the hand of neurobiologist  Amy Bishop. Her background was in chemical engineering and biochemistry, and she specialized in plant pathology and biotechnology applications. She had a doctorate in biochemistry and had worked as a postdoctoral research fellow at the Monsanto Company in St. Louis. She was hired at the University of Alabama after a seven-year stint as a senior scientist in the plant-science department at Research Genetics Inc. (later Invitrogen), also in Huntsville.

#96

100212.Gopi .K.Podila A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Gopi K. Podila, 54. Died February 13 at the hand of neurobiologist Amy Bishop, Indian American biologist, noted academician, and faculty member at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. He listed his research interests as engineering tree biomass for bioenergy, functional genomics of plant-microbe interactions, plant molecular biology and biotechnology. In particular, Padila studied genes that regulate growth in fast growing trees, especially poplar and aspen. He has advocated prospective use of fast growing trees and grasses as an alternative to corn sources for producing ethanol.

#95

100212.Adriel.D.Johnson A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Adriel D. Johnson Sr. 52. Died February 13 at the hand of neurobiologist Amy Bishop. His research involved aspects of gastrointestinal physiology specifically pancreatic function in vertebrates.

#95-97

100212.Amy Bishop A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Neurobiologist Amy Bishop, 45, murdered three fellow scientists February 13 after being denied tenure. Dead biology professors are: G. K. Podila, the department’s chairman, a native of India; Maria Ragland Davis; and Adriel D. Johnson Sr.

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Died 2009

#94

091116.Keith .Fagnou A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Keith Fagnou, 38. Died November 11 of H1N1. His research focused on improving the preparation of complex molecules for petrochemical, pharmaceutical or industrial uses. Keith’s advanced and out–of-the-box thinking overturned prior ideas of what is possible in the chemistry field.

#93

091021.Stephen.Lagakos A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Stephen Lagakos, 63. Died October 12 in an auto collision, wife, Regina, 61, and his mother, Helen, 94, were also killed in the crash, as was the driver of the other car, Stephen Krause, 52, of Keene, N.H. Lagakos centered his efforts on several fronts in the fight against AIDS particularly how and when HIV-infected women transmitted the virus to their children. In addition, he developed sophisticated methods to improve the accuracy of estimated HIV incidence rates. He also contributed to broadening access to antiretroviral drugs to people in developing countries.

#92

090921.Malcolm.Casadaban A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Malcolm Casadaban, 60. Died Sept. 13 of plague. Casadaban, a renowned molecular geneticist with a passion for new research, had been working to develop an even stronger vaccine for the plague. The medical center says the plague bacteria he worked with was a weakened strain that isn’t known to cause illness in healthy adults. The strain was approved by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for laboratory studies.

#91

Wallace.Pannier1 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Wallace L. Pannier, 81. Died Aug. 6 of respiratory failure and other natural causes. Pannier, a germ warfare scientist whose top-secret projects included a mock attack on the New York subway with powdered bacteria in 1966. Mr. Pannier worked at Fort Detrick, a US Army installation in Frederick that tested biological weapons during the Cold War and is now a center for biodefense research. He worked in the Special Operations Division, a secretive unit operating there from 1949 to 1969, according to family members and published reports. The unit developed and tested delivery systems for deadly agents such as anthrax and smallpox.

#90

090618.August.M.Watanabe1 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

August “Gus” Watanabe, 67. Died June 9, found dead outside a cabin in Brown County. Friends discovered the body, a .38-caliber handgun and a three-page note at the scene. They said he had been depressed following the death last month of his daughter Nan Reiko Watanabe Lewis. She died at age 44 while recovering from elective surgery. Watanabe was one of the five highest-paid officers of Indianapolis pharmaceutical maker Eli Lilly and Co. when he retired in 2003.

 

 

#89

Caroline Coffey, 28. Died June 3, from massive cuts to her throat. Hikers found the body of the Cornell Univ. post-doctoral bio-medicine researcher along a wooded trail in the park, just outside Ithaca, N.Y., where the Ivy League school is located. Her husband was hospitalized under guard after a police chase and their apartment set on fire.

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#88

090928.Nasser.Ordoubadi A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Nasser Talebzadeh Ordoubadi, 53. Died February 14, of “suspicious” causes. Dr. Noah (formerly Nasser Talebzadeh Ordoubadi) is described in his American biography as a pioneer of Mind-Body-Quantum medicine who lectured in five countries and ran a successful health care center General Medical Clinics Inc. in King County, Washington for 15 years after suffering a heart attack in 1989. Among his notable accomplishments was discovering an antitoxin treatment for bioweapons.

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Died 2008

#87

091105.Bruce .Edwards.Ivins A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Bruce Edwards Ivins, 62. Died July 29, of an overdose. He committed suicide prior to formal charges being filed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for an alleged criminal connection to the 2001 anthrax attacks. Ivins was likely solely responsible for the deaths of five persons, and the injury of dozens of others, resulting from the mailings of several anonymous letters to members of Congress and members of the media in September and October, 2001, which letters contained Bacillus anthracis, commonly referred to as anthrax. Ivins was a coinventor on two US patents for anthrax vaccine technology.

#85 and 86

090504.Bonomo Ferez A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez, both 23. Died July 3, after being bound, gagged, stabbed and set alight. Laurent, a student in the proteins that cause infectious disease, had been stabbed 196 times with half of them being administered to his back after he was dead. Gabriel, who hoped to become an expert in ecofriendly fuels, suffered 47 separate injuries.

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Died 2007

#84

Yongsheng.Li A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Yongsheng Li, age 29. Died: sometime after 4 p.m. on March 10, when he was last seen as a result of unknown causes. He was found in a pond between the Women’s Sports Complex and State Botanical Gardens on South Milledge Avenue Sunday and had been missing 16 days. Li was a doctoral student from China who studied receptor cells in Regents Professor David Puett’s biochemistry and molecular biology laboratory.

#83

Mario Alberto Vargas Olvera A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

 Dr. Mario Alberto Vargas Olvera, age 52. Died: Oct. 6, 2007 as a result of several blunt-force injuries to his head and neck. Ruled as murder. Found in his home. He was a nationally and internationally recognized biologist.

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Died 2006

#82

Yoram.Kaufman 1 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Yoram Kaufman, age 57 (one day before his 58th birthday). Died: May 31, 2006 when he was struck by an automobile while riding his bicycle near the Goddard center’s campus in Greenbelt. Dr. Kaufman began working at the space flight center in 1979 and spent his entire career there as a research scientist. His primary fields were meteorology and climate change, with a specialty in analyzing aerosols — airborne solid and liquid particles in the atmosphere. In recent years, he was senior atmospheric scientist in the Earth-Sun Exploration Division and played a key role in the development of NASA’s Terra satellite, which collects data about the atmosphere.

#81

Lee Jong wook A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

 Lee Jong-woo, age 61. Died: May 22, 2006 after suffering a blood clot on the brain. Lee was spearheading the organization’s fight against global threats from bird flu, AIDS and other infectious diseases. WHO director-general since 2003, Lee was his country’s top international official. The affable South Korean, who liked to lighten his press conferences with jokes, was a keen sportsman with no history of ill-health, according to officials.

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Died 2005

#80

  Leonid Strachunsky. Died: June 8, 2005 after being hit on the head with a champagne bottle. Strachunsky specialized in creating microbes resistant to biological weapons. Strachunsky was found dead in his hotel room in Moscow, where hed come from Smolensk en route to the United States. Investigators are looking for a connection between the murder of this leading bio weapons researcher and the hepatitis outbreak in Tver, Russia.

#79

050519.Robert.J.Lull A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Robert J. Lull, age 66. Died: May 19, 2005 of multiple stab wounds. Despite his missing car and apparent credit card theft, homicide Inspector Holly Pera said investigators aren’t convinced that robbery was the sole motive for Lull’s killing. She said a robber would typically have taken more valuables from Lull’s home than what the killer left with. Lull had been chief of nuclear medicine at San Francisco General Hospital since 1990 and served as a radiology professor at UCSF. He was past president of the American College of Nuclear Physicians and the San Francisco Medical Society and served as editor of the medical society’s journal, San Francisco Medicine, from 1997 to 1999. Lee Lull said her former husband was a proponent of nuclear power and loved to debate his political positions with others.

#78

  Todd Kauppila, age 41. Died: May 8, 2005 of hemorrhagic pancreatitis at the Los Alamos hospital, according to the state medical examiner’s office.  Picture of him was not available to due secret nature of his work. This is his funeral picture.  His death came two days after Kauppila publicly rejoiced over news that the lab’s director was leaving.  Kauppila was fired by director Pete Nanos on Sept. 23, 2004 following a security scandal.  Kauppila said he was fired because he did not immediately return from a family vacation during a lab investigation into two classified computer disks that were thought to be missing. The apparent security breach forced Nanos to shut down the lab for several weeks. Kauppila claimed he was made a scapegoat over the disks, which investigators concluded never existed. The mistake was blamed on a clerical error.  After he was fired, Kauppila accepted a job as a contractor at Bechtel Nevada Corp., a research company that works with Los Alamos and other national laboratories. He was also working on a new Scatter Reduction Grids in Megavolt Radiography focused on metal plates or crossed grids to act to stop the scattered radiation while allowing the unscattered or direct rays to pass through with other scientists: Scott Watson (LANL, DX-3), Chuck Lebeda (LANL, XTA),  Alan Tubb (LANL, DX-8), and Mike Appleby (Tecomet Thermo Electron Corp.)

#77

050509.David .Banks A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

 David Banks, age 55. Died: May 8, 2005. Banks, based in North Queensland, died in an airplane crash, along with 14 others. He was known as an Agro Genius inventing the mosquito trap used for cattle. Banks was the principal scientist with quarantine authority, Biosecurity Australia, and heavily involved in protecting Australians from unwanted diseases and pests. Most of Dr Banks’ work involved preventing potentially devastating diseases making their way into Australia. He had been through Indonesia looking at the potential for foot and mouth disease to spread through the archipelago and into Australia. Other diseases he had fought to keep out of Australian livestock herds and fruit orchards include classical swine fever, Nipah virus and Japanese encephalitis.

#76

Douglas.James .Passaro A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Dr. Douglas James Passaro, age 43. Died April 18, 2005 from unknown cause in Oak Park, Illinois. Dr. Passaro was a brilliant epidemiologist who wanted to unlock the secrets of a spiral-shaped bacteria that causes stomach disease. He was a professor who challenged his students with real-life exercises in bioterrorism. He was married to Dr. Sherry Nordstrom.

#75

Angara A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Geetha Angara, age 43. Died: February 8, 2005. This formerly missing chemist was found in a Totowa, New Jersey water treatment plant’s tank. Angara, 43, of Holmdel, was last seen on the night of Feb. 8 doing water quality tests at the Passaic Valley Water Commission plant in Totowa, where she worked for 12 years. Divers found her body in a 35-foot-deep sump opening at the bottom of one of the emptied tanks. Investigators are treating Angara’s death as a possible homicide. Angara, a senior chemist with a doctorate from New York University, was married and mother of three.

#74

image051 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Jeong H. Im, age 72. Died: January 7, 2005. Korean Jeong H. Im, died of multiple stab wounds to the chest before firefighters found in his body in the trunk of a burning car on the third level of the Maryland Avenue Garage.  A retired research assistant professor at the University of Missouri – Columbia and primarily a protein chemist, MUPD with the assistance of the Columbia Police Department and Columbia Fire Department are conducting a death investigation of the incident. A “person of interest” described as a male 6′–6’2″ wearing some type of mask possible a painters mask or drywall type mask was seen in the area of the Maryland Avenue Garage. Dr. Im was primarily a protein chemist and he was a researcher in the field.

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Died in 2004

#73

Darwin.Kenneth.Vest A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

 Darwin Kenneth Vest, born April 22, 1951, was an internationally renowned entomologist, expert on hobo spiders and other poisonous spiders and snakes. Darwin disappeared in the early morning hours of June 3, 1999 while walking in downtown Idaho Falls, Idaho (USA). The family believes foul play was involved in his disappearance. A celebration of Darwin’s life was held in Idaho Falls and Moscow on the one-year anniversary of his disappearance. The services included displays of Darwin’s work and thank you letters from school children and teachers. Memories of Darwin were shared by at least a dozen speakers from around the world and concluded with the placing of roses and a memorial wreath in the Snake River. A candlelight vigil was also held that evening on the banks of the Snake River.

Darwin was declared legally dead the first week of March 2004 and now the family is in the process of obtaining restraining orders against several companies who saw fit to use his name and photos without permission. His brother David is legal conservator of the estate and his sister Rebecca is handling issues related to Eagle Rock Research and ongoing research projects.

Media help in locating Darwin is welcome. Continuing efforts to solve this mystery include recent DNA sampling. Stories about his disappearance continue to appear throughout the world. Issues surrounding missing adult investigations have received new attention following the tragedies of 911.

#71 and 72

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Tom Thorne, age 64; Beth Williams, age 53; Died: December 29, 2004. Two wild life scientists, Husband-and-wife wildlife veterinarians who were nationally prominent experts on chronic wasting disease and brucellosis were killed in a snowy-weather crash on U.S. 287 in northern Colorado.

#70

image047 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Taleb Ibrahim al-Daher. Died: December 21, 2004. Iraqi nuclear scientist was shot dead north of Baghdad by unknown gunmen. He was on his way to work at Diyala University when armed men opened fire on his car as it was crossing a bridge in Baqouba, 57 km northeast of Baghdad. The vehicle swerved off the bridge and fell into the Khrisan river. Al-Daher, who was a professor at the local university, was removed from the submerged car and rushed to Baqouba hospital where he was pronounced dead.

#69

image045 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

John R. La Montagne, age 61. Died: November 2, 2004.  Died while in Mexico, no cause stated, later disclosed as pulmonary embolism.  PhD, Head of US Infectious Diseases unit under Tommie Thompson.  Was NIAID Deputy Director.  Expert in AIDS Program work and Microbiology and Infectious Diseases.

#68

 Matthew Allison, age 32.  Died: October 13, 2004. Fatal explosion of a car parked at an Osceola County, Fla., Wal-Mart store.  It was no accident, Local 6 News has learned. Found inside a burned car. Witnesses said the man left the store at about 11 p.m. and entered his Ford Taurus car when it exploded. Investigators said they found a Duraflame log and propane canisters on the front passenger’s seat.  Allison had a college degree in molecular biology and biotechnology.

#67  

Mohammed Toki Hussein al-Talakani, age 40. Died: September 5, 2004: Iraqi nuclear scientist was shot dead in Mahmudiya, south of Baghdad. He was a practicing nuclear physicist since 1984.

#66

 Professor John Clark,  Age 52, Died: August 12, 2004.  Found hanged in his holiday home.  An expert in animal science and biotechnology where he developed techniques for the genetic modification of livestock; this work paved the way for the birth, in 1996, of Dolly the sheep, the first animal to have been cloned from an adult.  Head of the science lab which created Dolly the sheep.   Prof Clark led the Roslin Institute in Midlothian, one of the world s leading animal biotechnology research centers. He played a crucial role in creating the transgenic sheep that earned the institute worldwide fame. He was put in charge of a project to produce human proteins (which could be used in the treatment of human diseases) in sheep’s milk. Clark and his team focused their study on the production of the alpha-I-antitryps in protein, which is used for treatment of cystic fibrosis. Prof Clark also founded three spin-out firms from Roslin – PPL Therapeutics, Rosgen and Roslin BioMed.

#65

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Dr. John Badwey, age 54. Died: July 21, 2004.  Scientist and accidental politician when he opposed disposal of sewage waste program of exposing humans to sludge.  Suddenly developed pneumonia like symptoms then died in two weeks.  Biochemist at Harvard Medical School specializing in infectious diseases.

 

#64

  Dr. Bassem al-Mudares.  Died: July 21, 2004.  Mutilated body was found in the city of Samarra, Iraq*. He was a Phd. chemist and had been tortured before being killed. He was a drug company worker who had a chemistry doctorate.

#63

Stephen.Tabet A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Professor Stephen Tabet, age 42. Died on July 6, 2004 from an unknown illness. He was an associate professor and epidemiologist at the University of Washington. A world-renowned HIV doctor and researcher who worked with HIV patients in a vaccine clinical trial for the HIV Vaccine Trials Network

#62

Dr. Larry Bustard, age 53. Died July 2, 2004 from unknown causes. He was a Sandia scientist in the Department of Energy who helped develop a foam spray to clean up congressional buildings and media sites during the anthrax scare in 2001. He worked at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque. As an expert in bioterrorism, his team came up with a new technology used against biological and chemical agents.

#61

Edward.Hoffman A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Edward Hoffman, age 62. Died July 1, 2004 from unknown causes. Hoffman was a professor and a scientist who also held leadership positions within the UCLA medical community. He worked to develop the first human PET scanner in 1973 at Washington University in St. Louis.

#60

image0411 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

 John Mullen, age 67. Died: June 29, 2004.  A Nuclear physicist poisoned with a huge dose of arsenic.  A nuclear research scientist with McDonnell Douglas. Police investigating will not say how Mullen was exposed to the arsenic or where it came from. At the time of his death he was doing contract work for Boeing.

# 59

Dr. Paul Norman, age 52. Died: June 27, 2004.  From Salisbury Wiltshire.  Killed when the single-engine Cessna 206 he was piloting crashed in Devon.  Expert in chemical and biological weapons. He traveled the world lecturing on defending against the scourge of weapons of mass destruction.  He was married with a 14-year-old son and a 20-year-old daughter, and was the chief scientist for chemical and biological defense at the Ministry of Defense’s laboratory at Porton Down, Wiltshire. The crash site was examined by officials from the Air Accidents Investigation Branch and the wreckage of the aircraft was removed from the site to the AAIB base at Farnborough.

#58

image039 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Assefa Tulu, age 45. Died: June 24, 2004.  Dr. Tulu joined the health department in 1997 and served for five years as the county’s lone epidemiologist. He was charged with trackcing the health of the county, including the spread of diseases, such as syphilis, AIDS and measles. He also designed a system for detecting a bioterrorism attack involving viruses or bacterial agents. Tulu often coordinated efforts to address major health concerns in Dallas County, such as the West Nile virus outbreaks of the past few years, and worked with the media to inform the public. Found face down, dead in his office. The Dallas County Epidemiologist died of a hemorrhagic stroke.

#57

image037 A List of 115 Dead Scientists... Assassinated?

Thomas Gold, age 84. Died: June 22, 2004.  Austrian born Thomas Gold famous over the years for a variety of bold theories that flout conventional wisdom and reported in his 1998 book, “The Deep Hot Biosphere,” the idea challenges the accepted wisdom of how oil and natural gas are formed and, along the way, proposes a new theory of the beginnings of life on Earth and potentially on other planets.  Long term battle with heart failure. Gold’s theory of the deep hot biosphere holds important ramifications for the possibility of life on other planets, including seemingly inhospitable planets within our own solar system. He was Professor Emeritus of Astronomy at Cornell University and was the founder (and for 20 years director) of Cornell Center for Radiophysics and Space Research. He was also involved in air accident investigations.

#56

  Antonina Presnyakova, age 46. Died:  May 25, 2004.  A Russian scientist at a former Soviet biological weapons laboratory in Siberia died after an accident with a needle laced with ebola. Scientists and officials said the accident had raised concerns about safety and secrecy at the State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology, known as Vector, which in Soviet times specialized in turning deadly viruses into biological weapons. Vector has been a leading recipient of aid in an American program.

#55

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Dr. Eugene Mallove, age 56. Died: May 14, 2004. Autopsy confirmed Mallove died as a result of several blunt-force injuries to his head and neck. Ruled as murder. Found at the end of his driveway. Alt. Energy Expert who was working on viable energy alternative program and announcement. Norwich Free Academy graduate.Beaten to death during an alleged robbery. Mallove was well respected for his knowledge of cold fusion. He had just published an “open letter” outlining the results of and reasons for his last 15 years in the field of “new energy research.” Dr. Mallove was convinced it was only a matter of months before the world would actually see a free energy device.

#54

 William T. McGuire, age 39. Found May 5, 2004, last seen late April 2004. Body found in three suitcases floating in Chesapeake Bay. He was NJ University Professor and Senior programmer analyst and adjunct professor at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark. He emerged as one of the world’s leading microbiologists and an expert in developing and overseeing multiple levels of biocontainment facilities.

#53

 Ilsley Ingram, age 84. Died on April 12, 2004 from unknown causes. Ingram was Director of the Supraregional Haemophilia Reference Centre and the Supraregional Centre for the Diagnosis of Bleeding Disorders at the St. Thomas Hospital in London. Although his age is most likely the reason for his death, why wasn’t this confirmed by the family in the news media?

#52

 Mohammed Munim al-Izmerly, Died: April 2004.  This distinguished Iraqi chemistry professor   died in American custody from a sudden hit to the back of his head caused by blunt trauma. It was uncertain exactly how he died, but someone had hit him from behind, possibly with a bar or a pistol. His battered corpse turned up at Baghdad’s morgue and the cause of death was initially recorded as “brainstem compression”. It was discovered that US doctors had made a 20cm incision in his skull.

#51

 Vadake Srinivasan, Died: March 13, 2004. Microbiologist crashed car into guard rail in Baton Rouge, LA.  Death was ruled a stroke. He was originally from India, was one of the most-accomplished and respected industrial biologists in academia, and held two doctorate degrees.

#50

Dr. Michael Patrick Kiley, age 62. Died: January 24, 2004. Died of massive heart attack. Ebola, Mad Cow Expert, top of the line world class. It is interesting to note, he had a good heart, but it “gave out”. Dr. Shope and Dr. Kiley were working on the lab upgrade to BSL 4 at the UTMB Galvaston lab for Homeland Security. The lab would have to be secure to house some of the deadliest pathogens of tropical and emerging infectious disease as well as bioweaponized ones.

#49

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Robert Shope, age 74. Died: January 23, 2004.  Virus Expert Who Warned of Epidemics, Dies died of lung transplant complications.  Later purported to have died of Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis which can be caused by either environmental stimulus or a VIRUS.  It would not be hard to administer a drug that would cause Dr. Shope’s lung transplant to either be rejected or to cause complications from the transplant. Dr. Shope led the group of scientists who had an 11 MILLION dollar fed grant to ensure the new lab would keep in the nasty bugs. Dr. Shope also met with and worked with Dr. Mike Kiley on the UTMB Galveston lab upgrade to BSL 4. When the upgrade would be complete the lab will host the most hazardous pathogens known to man especially tropical and emerging diseases as well as bioweapons.

 

#48

 Dr Richard Stevens, age 54. Died: January 6, 2004. He had disappeared after arriving for work on 21 July, 2003. A doctor whose disappearance sparked a national manhunt, killed himself because he could not cope with the stress of a secret affair, a coroner has ruled. He was a hematologist. (hematologists analyze the cellular composition of blood and blood producing tissues e.g. bone marrow).

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Died 2003

#47

  Robert Aranosia, age 61. Died: December 18, 2003. While driving south on I-75 his pickup truck went off the freeway near a bridge over the Kawkawlin River. The vehicle rolled over several times before landing in the median. Aranosia was thrown from the vehicle and ended up on the shoulder of the northbound lanes. He was the Oakland County deputy medical examiner.

#46 

Robert Leslie Burghoff, age 45. Died: November 20, 2003.  Scientist. Killed by a hit and run driver that jumped the curb and ploughed into him in the 1600 block of South Braeswood, Texas. The driver was described as a short Hispanic man in his 50s with a slightly rounded face. He was studying the virus plaguing cruise ships.

#45

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Michael Perich, age 46. Died: October 11, 2003.  Died in one-vehicle car accident. The LSU West Nile research scientist was wearing his seat belt and drowned. He was LSU professor who helped fight the spread of the West Nile virus. Perich, who was known as one of the country’s experts on vector-borne diseases, had most recently led a crusade to keep down the effects of West Nile virus and to get many of the Louisiana’s parishes to work toward forming mosquito control districts.

#44

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 David Kelly, age 59. Died: July 18, 2003.  British biological weapons expert, was said to have slashed his own wrists while walking near his home. Kelly was the Ministry of Defense’s chief scientific officer and senior adviser to the proliferation and arms control secretariat, and to the Foreign Office’s non-proliferation department. The senior adviser on biological weapons to the UN biological weapons inspections teams (Unscom) from 1994 to 1999, he was also, in the opinion of his peers, pre-eminent in his field, not only in this country, but in the world.

#43

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Dr. Leland Rickman, age  47.  Died: June 24, 2003.  Rickman died while on a teaching assignment in Lesotho, a small country bordered on all sides by South Africa. UC San Diego expert on infectious diseases and, since September 11, 2001 a consultant on bioterrorism.  He had complained of a headache, but the cause of death was not immediately known. The physician had been working in Lesotho with Dr. Chris Mathews, director of the UC San Diego Medical Center’s Owen Clinic, teaching African medical personnel about the prevention and treatment of AIDS. Rickman, the incoming president of the Infectious Disease Assn. of California, was a multidisciplinary professor and practitioner with expertise in infectious diseases, internal medicine, epidemiology, microbiology and antibiotic utilization.

#42

 ‘Dr. Roger’ Died: Summer 2003. ‘Roger’ was pseudonym for this genetics scientist. He was 17 and lived in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947 when the unexplained object crashed. He told a woman he worked with in 1977 named ‘Kate’ while employed by the Navy, who he helped to clean up the crash site of the 1947 UFO. He subsequently went to work for the government at this young age and ended up a geneticist working in China Lake for the Navy. Although he lived in fear and hiding soon after he told his story to Kate, he retired in late 1990s or early 2000′s and she saw him again once in early 2002 in San Diego. He told her she was in danger to talk to him and he left the store. In 2003 she received a phone call from his ‘friend’ who said he had been executed in his retirement home in Connecticut. The body had been removed by a black government looking vehicle. The home had been cleaned up and the body removed without any public notices of his death or existence. Many disfigured and abnormal animals were found in the desert near Groom Lake during his time there and after. Kate thought he might have been doing this gruesome experimental work.

    #41

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Carlo Urbani, age 46. Died: in April 2003 in Bangkok from SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) – the new disease that he had helped to identify. Thanks to his prompt action, the epidemic was contained in Vietnam. However, because of close daily contact with SARS patients, he contracted the infection. On March 11, he was admitted to a hospital in Bangkok and isolated. Less than three weeks later he died. He was a dedicated and internationally respected Italian epidemiologist, who did work of enduring value combating infectious illness around the world.

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Died 2002

#40

Roman Kuzmin. Died December 2002.  A 24-year-old Russian surgeon studying in Connecticut was fatally struck by a car as he fled a store with three stolen rolls of film, police said. He was studying to be an orthopedic surgeon. Doctors who worked with Roman Kuzmin at Waterbury Hospital said they were stunned to hear of his death Sunday evening and many couldn’t believe the circumstances. Kuzmin left Vladivostok in September to study orthopedic surgical techniques at Waterbury Hospital under a Keggi Othopedic Foundation program. Dr. Kristaps Keggi, who organized the program, said Kuzmin was “very able, very bright – a superb student and a superb individual.”

#39

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Dr. David R. Knibbs, age 49. Died: August 5, 2002.  Respected pathobiologist specializing in electron microscopy.

#38

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Steven Mostow, age 63. Died: March 25, 2002.  One of the country’s leading infectious disease and bioterrorism experts and was associate dean at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. He died in a plane crash near Centennial Airport.  He was known as “Dr. Flu” for his expertise in treating influenza, and expertise on bioterrorism. Mostow was one of the country’s leading infectious disease experts.

#37

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 Dr. David Wynn-Williams, age 55. Died: March 24, 2002.  Hit by a car while jogging near his home in Cambridge, England. He was an astrobiologist with the Antarctic Astrobiology Project and the NASA Ames Research Center. He was studying the capability of microbes to adapt to environmental extremes, including the bombardment of ultraviolet rays and global warming.

#35 and 36

 Tanya Holzmayer, age 46, Died: February 28, 2002: Two dead microbiologists in San Francisco. While taking delivery of a pizza, Tanya Holzmayer was shot and killed by a colleague, Guyang “Mathew” Huang38, who then apparently shot himself. Holzmayer moved to the US from Russia in 1989. Her research focused on the part of the human molecular structure that could be affected best by medicine. Holzmayer was focusing on helping create new drugs that interfere with replication of the virus that causes AIDS. One year earlier, Holzmayer obeyed senior management orders to fire Huang. Huang appeared from behind the deliveryman. He shot Holzmayer several times at close range in the chest and head. As Holzmayer fell in her doorway, Huang ran to a Ford Explorer and drove away. Less than an hour after the shooting, Huang called his wife, according to Foster City Police Capt. Craig Courtin. He told her about the shooting and that he was going to kill himself, then he hung up. Huang’s wife called the emergency services and Foster City police used search dogs to comb the area. They ran into a jogger who had seen Huang’s body lying off the walkway that locals call “The Levee.” He had fired a single bullet into his head.

#34

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 Dr. Ian Langford, age 40, Died: February 12, 2002.  Found dead at his blood-spattered and apparently ransacked home A Russian who was a Senior Research Associate in CSERGE, UK.  He was a leading university research scientist working on Global Environment, specializing in links between human health and the environment risk, was. Specialist in leukemia and infections.

#33

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 Dr. Vladamir ”Victor” Korshunov, age 56. Died: February 9, 2002.  Found dead on a Moscow street. Head was bashed in.  Korshunov was head of the microbiology sub-facility at the Russian State Medical University. He was found dead in the entrance to his home with a head injury. On Feb. 9 the Russian newspaperPravda reported that Korshunov had probably invented a vaccine protecting from any biological arm.

#32 

David W. Barry, age 58, Died: January 28, 2002. Scientist who co-discovered AZT, the antiviral drug that is considered the first effective treatment for AIDS. Circumstance of Death are unknown.

#31

Dr. Ivan Glebov. Died: January 2002. Russian Microbiologist. Glebov died as the result of a bandit attack.  Well known around the world and members of the Russian Academy of Science.

#30

 Dr. Alexi Brushlinski. Died: January 2002. Russian Microbiologist.  Murdered in  Moscow from bandit attack. Well known around the world and members of the Russian Academy of Science.

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#29 

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 Dr. Benito Que, age 52. Found:  November 12, 2001. Died: December 6, 2001.  Found Comatose from what was called a mugging. Died later in hospital. Found in the street near the laboratory where he worked at the University of Miami Medical School. Among Dr. Que’s friends and family there is firm belief that Dr. Que was attacked by four men, at least one of whom had a baseball bat. Dr. Que’s death has now been officially ruled “natural”, caused by cardiac arrest. He was a cell biologist, involved in research on aids, oncology research in the hematology department.

#28

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 Dr. Vladimer Pasechnik, age 64. Died: December 23, 2001. Found dead in Wiltshire, England, a village near his home. Two different dates have been reported:  November 21 and December 23.  Death ruled stroke.  He had defected from Russia to UK.  He had been the #1 scientist in the FSU’s bioweapons program. It was thought he was involved with exhuming the bodies of the 10 London victims of the 1919 Type A flu epidemic. Pasechnik died six weeks after the planned exhumations were announced.  On November 23, 2001, Pasechnik’s death was reported in the New York Times as having occurred two days earlier.  Pasechnik’s death was made in the United States by Dr. Christopher Davis of Virginia, who stated that the cause of death was a stroke. Dr. Davis was the member of British intelligence who de-briefed Dr. Pasechnik at the time of his defection.  Pasechnik was heavily involved in DNA sequencing research.  He had just founded a company like three other microbiologists working to provide powerful alternatives to antibiotics.  Dr. Vladimir Pasechnik was the boss of William C. Patrick III who holds 5 patents on the militarized anthrax used by the United States.  Patrick is now a private biowarfare consultant to the military and CIA. Patrick developed the process by which anthrax spores could be concentrated at the level of one trillion spores per gram. No other country has been able to get concentrations above 500 billion per gram. The anthrax that was sent around the eastern United States last fall was concentrated at one trillion spores per gram.

#27

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 Dr. Don Wiley, age 57. Vanished: December 16, 2001. Molecular Biologist with Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Harvard University, top Deadly Contagious Virus expert, abandoned rental car was found on the Hernando de Soto Bridge outside Memphis, TN.  He was heavily involved in research on DNA sequencing, and was last seen at around midnight on November 16, leaving the St. Jude’s Children’s Research Advisory Dinner at The Peabody Hotel in Memphis, TN. Associates attending the dinner said he showed no signs of intoxication, and no one has admitted to drinking with him.  Body found floating one month later.  Workers at a hydroelectric plant in Louisiana found the body of Don Wiley on Thursday, about 300 miles south of where the molecular biologist was last seen on Nov. 18 at a medical meeting in Memphis.  On January 14, 2002 (almost two months later) Shelby County Medical Examiner O.C. Smith announced that his department had ruled Dr. Wiley’s death to be “accidental”; the result of massive injuries suffered in a fall from the Hernando de Soto Bridge. Smith said there were paint marks on Wiley’s rental car similar to the paint used on construction signs on the bridge, and that the car’s right front hubcap was missing. There has been no report as to which construction signs Dr. Wiley hit.

#26 

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 Dr. Set Van Nguyen, age 44. Died:  December 14, 2001.  Found dead in the airlock entrance to the walk-in refrigerator in the laboratory he worked at in Victoria State, Australia. The room was full of deadly gas which had leaked from a liquid nitrogen cooling system.  Room was vented.  Working on a vaccine to protect against biological weapons, or a weapon itself.  In January, 2001, the magazine Nature published information that two scientists, Dr. Ron Jackson and Dr. Ian Ramshaw, using genetic manipulation and DNA sequencing, had created an incredibly virulent form of mousepox, a cousin of smallpox and Dr. Nguyen had worked for 15 years at the same Australian facility. Now for the intriguing part of this story. On Friday, November 2nd, the Washington Post reported: ”Officials are now scrambling to determine how a quiet, 61-year-old Vietnamese immigrant, riding the subway each day to and from her job in a hospital stockroom, was exposed to the deadly anthrax spores that killed her this week. They worry because there is no obvious connection to the factors common to earlier anthrax exposures and deaths: no clear link to the mail or to the media.

#25 

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 Dr. David Schwartz , age 57. Died: December 10, 2001.  Murdered by stabbing with what appeared to be a sword in rural home Loudon County, Virginia. His daughter, who identifies herself as a pagan high priestess, and three of her fellow pagans have been charged. He was extremely well respected in biophysics, and regarded as an authority on DNA sequencing.  Three teens that were into the occult were charged with murder in the slashing death.

#22 and 24: Avishai Berkman, age 50. (no photo) 

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 Amiramp Eldor, age 59  

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 Yaacov Matzner, age 54

All Died: November 24, 2001. Another airplane crash kills 3 scientists.  At about the time of the Black Sea crash, Israeli journalists had been sounding the alarm that two Israeli microbiologists had been murdered, allegedly by terrorists; including the head of the Hematology department at Israel’s Ichilov Hospital, as well as directors of the Tel Aviv Public Health Department and Hebrew University School of Medicine.  World experts in hematology and blood clotting.  Five microbiologists in this list of the first eight people that died mysteriously in airplane crashes worked on cutting edge microbiology research; and, four of the five were doing virtually identical research; research that has global political and financial significance.

#21

  Jeffrey Paris Wall, age 41. Died: November 6, 2001.  Body was found sprawled next to a three-story parking structure near his office. Mr. Wall had studied at the University of California, Los Angeles. He was a biomedical expert who held a medical degree, and he also specialized in patent and intellectual property.

#16-20

Five Unnamed Microbiologists.  Died: October 4, 2001.  Four of Five unnamed microbiologists on a plane that was brought down by a missile near the Black sea on the Russian border. Traveling from Israel to Russia; business not disclosed. 3 scientists were experts in medical research or public health. The plane is believed by many in Israel to have had as many as four or five passengers who were microbiologists. Both Israel and Novosibirsk are homes for cutting-edge microbiological research. Novosibirsk is known as the scientific capital of Siberia. There are over 50 research facilities there, and 13 full universities for a population of only 2.5 million people.

#15

Professor Janusz Jeljaszewicz, Died: on May 7, 2001, cause not disclosed. He was an expert in Staphylococci and Staphylococcal Infections. His main scientific interests and achievements were in the mechanism of action and biological properties of staphylococcal toxins, and included the immunomodulatory properties and experimental treatment of tumors by Propionibacterium.

Died 2000

#14

 Linda Reese, age 52. Died: December 25, 2000 three days after she studied a sample from Tricia Zailo, 19, a Fairfield, N.J., resident who was a sophomore at Michigan State University. Tricia Zailo died Dec. 18, a few days after she returned home for the holidays. Dr. Reese was a Microbiologist working with victims of meningitis.

#13

Mike Thomas, age 35. Died: July 16, 2000 a few days after examining a sample taken from a 12-year-old girl who was diagnosed with meningitis and survived. He was a microbiologist at the Crestwood Medical Center in Huntsville.

#12

Walter W. Shervington, M.D., age 62. Died: April 15, 2000 of cancer at Tulane Medical Hospital. He was an extensive writer/ lecturer/ researcher about mental health and AIDS in the African American community.

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#11

 Jonathan Mann, age 51. Died September 1998, in Swissair Flight 111 over Canada. He was founding director of the World Health Organization’s global Aids program and founded Project SIDA in Zaire, the most comprehensive Aids research effort in Africa at the time, and in 1986 he joined the WHO to lead the global response against Aids. He became director of WHO’s global program on Aids which later became the UNAids program. He then became director of the Francois-Xavier Bagnoud Center for Health and Human Rights, which was set up at Harvard School of Public Health in 1993. He caused controversy earlier in 1998 in the media when he accused the US National Institutes of Health of violating human rights by failing to act quickly on developing Aids vaccines.

#10

 Elizabeth A. Rich, M.D., age 46. Died July 10, 1998, in a traffic accident while visiting family in Tennessee. She was an associate professor with tenure in the pulmonary division of the Department of Medicine at CWRU and University Hospitals of Cleveland. She was also a member of the executive committee for the Center for AIDS Research and directed the Bio-safety level 3 facility, a specialized laboratory for the handling of HIV, virulent TB bacteria, and other infectious agents. .

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Died 1994 – 1996

#9

 Sidney Harshman, age 67. Died: Dec. 25, 1997, from complications of diabetes. He was a professor of microbiology and immunology. He was the world’s leading expert on staphylococcal alpha toxins.

#6-8

Mark Purdey, his Lawyer, and Veterinarian working with Purdey Die: CJD doctor Mark Purdey was familiar with the expression “abnormal brain protein.” Purdey’s house was burned down, his lawyer on mad cow issues was driven off the road and died and the veterinarian in the UK BSE inquiry also died in a mysterious car crash. CJD specialist Dr C. Bruton was killed in a car crash just before he went public with a new research paper. The veterinarian on the case also died in a car crash. Purdey’s new lawyer, too, had a car accident, but not fatal. Before Dr. Purdey’s death, he speculated that Dr. C. Bruton (#2 below) might have known more than what was revealed in his paper before he was killed.

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 Dr. Tsunao Saitoh, age 46.  Died: May 7, 1996.   Shot and killed, along with his young daughter, in LaJolla, California. He was dead behind the wheel of the car, the side window had been shot out, and the door was open. His daughter appeared to have tried to run away and she was shot dead, also. The hit was compared to other killings of Japanese in this country by muggers. Expert in abnormal proteins in Alzheimer.

#3

 Dr. Jawad Al Aubaidi. Died in 1994. A graduate doctor from Cornel, he was hired to head the mycoplasma biowar research project. One of Dr. Aubaidi’s projects was filling payloads of scud missles with mycoplasma strains. In 1995, Dr. Aubaidi was murdered by the Israelis Mussad. His demise, or, neutralization was made to look like an accident. He was killed in his native Iraq while he was changing a flat tire and was hit by a truck.

#2

 Dr. C. Bruton, a CJD specialist — who had just produced a paper on the a new strain of CJD — was killed in a car crash before his work was announced to the public. Purdey speculates that Bruton might have known more than what was revealed in his paper.

#1 

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 Jose Trias,  Died: May 19, 1994. Trias and his wife were murdered in their Chevy Chase, Maryland home. They met with a friend of theirs, a journalist, before the day of their murder and told him of their plan to expose HHMI (Howard Hughes Medical Institute) funding of “special ops” research. Grant money that goes to HHMI is actually diverted to special black ops research projects

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  • terry the censor

    There is no point to this list?

  • faro0485

    What’s that charity that helps identify reporters who’ve been killed? Is there one for scientists mysteriously dying?

  • Anonymous

    Some may be tempted to see this as a concerted effort to dumb
    down the genetic potential of those who are not “chosen”. Or
    if chosen then only to serve those that are chosen (at least
    according to their own scriptures).

  • TimOsman

    The false flag nukes could be traced by DNA type matching forensics.

    The Mel Gibson last film was about his daughter exposing a false flag nuke facility, nuke on US city would trace to Iran.

    Also bioweapons DNA tracing.

    Many of these scientists were snuffed by ZATO, Mossad, CIA , MI6.

    The false flag WMD is to bring in NWO police state martial law, and WW3, following is abolishment of all religion, and a one world humanism or luciferian open society of utopia (false after just 3.5yrs falls apart and exposed as fraud)

    Pre-rapture tribulation is a joo Scofeild perversion of bible injected into colleges 100yrs ago sponsored by Zionist joos.

    The jews want Christians to lay down and wait for rapture and JC, while rest store food and ammo and network a sustained lifestyle outside the Luciferian microchipped society.

    post rapture tribulation differs from Pastor Hagee NeoCon Israeli firster black sheep disinfo trick

  • TimOsman

    Al pikes dream of WW3 to usher in his Lucifer world cult.

    He has a tomb in DC which top mason visit, Kabballist Kramer from Seinfeld bumped into Tony Blair inside tomb in DC

  • faro0485

    World War 3 is an inevitability… because the guy behind it is no mere mortal. http://bit.ly/so14l7

  • LindaJoyAdams

    “Ned” Alysoisha Nuss, engineer, Others may have other names to add.

  • Ozzie_Thinker

    http://synopibit.ly/so14l7 sorry but totally wrong. The synoptic and the fourth gospels offer different accounts of Jesus’ cruxifiction. It was likely that rather than “betraying” Jesus, Judas Iscariot (a suspect zealot elite assassin) paid off Pontius Pilot. It was a private affair on private land (probably owned by Joseph of Arimathea) held in poor light with limited spectator viewing. For the lemgth of time Jesus was susposedly on the cross, it would have been impossible for him to die without breaking his legs and if his legs were broken he would have asfixiated instantly.

    Was he given vinegar or a neurotoxin? The Esscenes (the cutting edge healers of the time) were renowned for their white togas. They could have been described as “looking like angels”. They, one would suspect, would have the antidote for a neurotoxin and the ability to revive a bodily stress individual. Jesus older brother (Saint) James (the Just) tells the dimmest amoungst us that his mother Mary was no “physical” virgin.

    Before you parade old twits in silly hats issuing Islamic “words of wisdom”, you really need to go study faro0485. There are some very informed readers at this place who will shred any issued nonesense.

  • MindMe

    Classic cherry picking. People die. People die in accidents. It’s the “clinton body count” all over again.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

  • Anonymous

    AND APPARENTLY THE SUICIDE THAT WAS NOT OF DR. DAVID KELLY – UK …

  • faro0485

    MindMe… those murders were unsolved. Just like how many of the Gangsters were claimed to have killed people, but those were unsolved murders as well.

  • faro0485

    @Anonymous on 07 December 2011 12:49:12

    Your link doesn’t work and your lies against the prophet Jesus, son of Mary, are what they are. http://goo.gl/ZvG16

  • MindMe

    @faro0485

    Which murders? The list above are mostly scientists who have died of accidents and suicide.

  • O. Ryan Faust

    Two points:
    1. The Clinton body count was quite telling.
    2. Snopes has been documented to be a left-wing operation.

  • faro0485

    @MindMe do genes mutate accidentally?

  • terry the censor

    I repeat: there is no point to this article. There is no analysis suggesting the deaths are connected in any way. Only the leadline makes a claim.
    This is pure mindless innuendo.

  • terry the censor

    @O. Ryan Faust
    > Snopes has been documented to be a left-wing operation.

    Exposing lies is a left-wing activity? Thanks for clarifying that.

    The Mikkelsons discussed the politics of lies with the New York Times.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/technology/05snopes.html

  • MindMe

    @O. Ryan Faust

    “2. Snopes has been documented to be a left-wing operation.”

    A silly ad hominem fallacy. “Einstein had communist sympathies therefore we can’t believe Relativity.” Facts and arguments stand on their own. You can’t dismiss them simply because you don’t like the person making the argument.

    @faro0485

    “do genes mutate accidentally?”

    Yes they do. What’s your point?

  • faro0485

    MindMe … there’s no such thing as accidental.

  • terry the censor

    faro0485 said:

    > do genes mutate accidentally?
    > there’s no such thing as accidental.

    Are you saying billions of years of gene mutation were planned?

    (Take all the space you want explaining your theory.)

  • faro0485

    Are you saying there’s such a thing as accident?

    What is accident? Lack of knowledge.

    Billion is just a number. For God that is infinite, it’s small.

    Infinity makes it’s own space.

  • terry the censor

    @faro0485
    > What is accident? Lack of knowledge.

    Ah, an expert. I am so happy to learn from a knowledgeable person.

    Tell me then, faro, what is the non-accidental cause of genetic mutation?

  • MindMe

    @faro0485
    “MindMe … there’s no such thing as accidental.”

    Forgive me if I don’t take your word for it. Depends on your definition of accident. I would define an accidental death as:

    “Death resulting from an accident from an unusual event that was unanticipated by everyone involved.”

    I don’t expect to be killed driving in a safe manner to work. I would expect to be killed doing 100 mph in a 30 zone.

    A trail lawyer might say someone is to blame ultimately. But that’s not really the point of the article. I might be wrong, but it means to suggest these deaths are related and planned by a small group of people.

    Not all the deaths are accidental. Some are suicide. Some are heart conditions.

  • faro0485

    @mindme

    No there is no certainty that you would be killed doing 100mph in a 30mph zone. There might be a higher risks since we have come to believe that speeding can kill.

    But you can check the law, and see if you could get around it. But as far as common law goes, that’s disturbing the peace.

    You’re digressing with that.

    Well as far as it is claimed, genetic mutations are believed to be of three kinds, positive, negative and neutral.

    In money, you could have gain loss and exchange. I have heard that genes suffer negative mutations due to radiation and such.

    But positive mutations… well these are codes, for a programmer, he could add code, or cause a fault, or just add something for later.

    But when someone tells you it’s random… they’re just saying they don’t know. But when someone like Richard Dawkins says it’s a blind watch maker… he’s almost suggesting it’s some force that has no knowledge. How deistic of him.

    Knowing about quantum physics of genetic material is key. Also learning about Electromagnetic theories of consciousness is very much important.

    Quran 4:78-79 does explain the point.
    http://quran.com/4/78-79

    No death is accidental.

  • MindMe

    @faro0485

    I’m not suggesting I will certainly die going 100 mph in a 30 zone. What I’m suggesting is we are not surprised by deaths resulting from reckless behavior. We would not term it an accidental death. We would term it death by misadventure. We would term a man, say, having an undetected brain aneurism and causing a car crash an accidental death. Yes, the aneurism caused the accident. Yes, maybe the aneurism was caused by smoking. Yes, maybe he took up smoking because he was stressed out.

    But that’s not really the point I’m trying to make about the article. As I note, the article simply cherry picks a small number of scientists who die by year due to wholly unrelated causes: accident, health problems, suicide, murder, etc. Other than the author has cherry picked scientists who died that year, there’s nothing to suggest they were assassinated.

    A mutation is a mutation. A positive mutation can be negative if environmental factors suddenly change. Just because a certain mutation conveys a survival advantage doesn’t imply it requires intelligence or it’s according to a plan. We both have a hand in cards. We both get a king. The king in my card environment does nothing for my hand. The king in your card environment gives you three of a kind. We both got it at random. Maybe a god wants you to win at poker but the favorable hand is just as easily explained by the random assortment of the cards. You’ll have to demonstrate a god exists and cares about your luck in poker to convince me we need to violate Occam’s Razor and add a new entity to this scenario.

    “But when someone tells you it’s random… they’re just saying they don’t know.”

    No. What they’re saying is the distribution of outcomes is no different from a mathematical description of randomness. It matches a chi square test.

    “Quran 4:78-79″

    Yeah that’s cool ‘n’ all but as I noted above, you’ll have to demonstrate the existence of this god entity before you try to use it as a casual agent. Sorry if I don’t take your word for it.

  • faro0485

    The quran is the proof, it’s the miracle of God. “what the hell are you on about”

    Well you’d have to hear it to know that point. But just like you couldn’t see the miracles of the past, you can’t even hear this one. Oh well… Pharaoh saw, yet he still didn’t believe. So please, don’t say to me that you’d believe when people like the Pharaoh never did. http://goo.gl/uuP9Y

    Ask any one who’s been 100mph down a road (I didn’t say a thing)… they’ll tell you, it’s not speed that kills. It’s God who takes life.

    No… you neither I know what were the exact penny for penny causes. But everything is predestined by God.

    Well if his aneurism was caused by smoking… and by stress… (who starts smoking for stress relief?) then it is God giving him what he deserved for the evils he did.

    No the above scientists are the notable cases in the news. Would you like to give us some scientists other than this to prove your point “these were all accidents, capish, you don’t say nada to no one, gottit? Otherwise our bois will make you look like an accident with da fishiss”

    … let’s not live in the world of poker, and brawds and dice… come on now, you’ve been around far too many of the mob. I know, you guys throw out the smart guy who can count the cards.

    Ultimately, you’re forgetting the most biggest factor… Intelligence. Memory. Conciousness.

    I’ve studied maths, there’s no such thing as “randomness” it’s just a term to say that there are far to many factors missing from the model to account for it.

    Don’t take my word, I think you’re a government pawn anyway, boy do they love you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M

  • MindMe

    @faro0485
    “The quran is the proof, it’s the miracle of God. ”

    In your opinion. Again, forgive me if I’m not taking your word for it.

    “Ask any one who’s been 100mph down a road (I didn’t say a thing)… they’ll tell you, it’s not speed that kills. It’s God who takes life. ”

    Not where I’m from. Not even close. We’d call the guy an idiot that should have seen it coming.

    “But everything is predestined by God. ”

    Maybe. Maybe not. I see no evidence for it.

    “Would you like to give us some scientists other than this to prove your point”

    What kind would you need to be satisfied I’m correct?

    “Ultimately, you’re forgetting the most biggest factor… Intelligence. Memory. Conciousness. ”

    What’s that got to do with anything we’re talking about?

    “I’ve studied maths, there’s no such thing as “randomness” it’s just a term to say that there are far to many factors missing from the model to account for it.”

    No. Let’s say we know pi to 4 decimal places. Could you predict the 5th? No. You need to do the brute force calculation. Why? It’s random.

  • Upaces

    O. Ryan…, I have never counted. Who has most Clintons or Obama?

  • faro0485

    MindMe… you’d take the word those who are like you for sure.
    But in reality, you’d have to taste that chicken before you can give it a score.

    No we wouldn’t call such a guy an idiot, because that guy could be in a rally competition.

    Still, trying to claim that there is even one bit of randomness is purely based upon ignorance.

    Only those who want to promote vegas and such, and the concept of gambling… only they benefit with the ideas of randomism. But in reality, house wins.

    The heavens and the earth, are owned by God. God wins. Though you believed you could have one up’d on God… “where are you Mr God, I don’t see you ha ha ha, proved you wrong! Ah there’s no judgement day coming etc etc”

    Though strange… even you will die, just as these above.

    Give us at least one scientist who died from random causes.

    Cop: “they all just died, and magically I’m low on bullets…”

    Talk about hocus pocus.

    “You need to do the brute force calculation. Why? It’s random.” – please avoid making a gambler’s fallacy.

  • MindMe

    @faro0485

    I err on the side of consensus science. I’ve tasted enough religious chicken to know what level of evidence I demand before I decide they’ve got the ringer on truth. You’re offering none other than your own authority.

    “Still, trying to claim that there is even one bit of randomness is purely based upon ignorance. ”

    I’ve offered you a classic example from math and you’ve simply hand waved it away. Maybe you could enlighten us why this example doesn’t demonstrate a concept of randomness?

    “The heavens and the earth, are owned by God.”

    You keep claiming there’s this god entity and expect me to take your word for it. I’m sure it gives you the warm fuzzies but I don’t invoke an entity with no evidence for it to explain something.

    “Give us at least one scientist who died from random causes. ”

    That wasn’t my argument. My argument was people on the list have died from a variety of causes that I can see no logical connection. Some from accidents (as I’ve defined). Some from disease. Some from misadventure. Some from murder. Some from an unknown cause (if we are to take the list maker’s word for it, and I don’t). And so on. Pretty much anyway a human can die, the list maker has a scientist who has died from it. The list maker seems to be putting forward a hypothesis that someone is assassinating scientists (all in a variety of unconnected fields). Other than simply giving us a seemingly random list of people who do science in some capacity and have died in some way, there’s nothing to suggest a pattern of assassination.

  • faro0485

    You follow the masses?
    No you haven’t tasted any quran, not a drop. Tell me, why do you invoke the term “authority”… have you accepted the line “government knows best”?

    No you gave a reference to methodology in find mathematical models. Six paces on a board, are not random paces just because you decided to roll a dice. They are six exact paces. Not roll a dice, and you get 6 and instead randomly move 5.

    I’ll give you a better example. Guy drives down a road at 100mph, a car coming the other way at 30 miles across a road… they both hit.

    Random? Absolutely not, both points of view had the knowledge of where they were. We call it random because both parties did not have the information of the other. But we can refer to electromagnetic theories of conciousness, and note that stretching from between both individuals… there is a field. It’s at that where the information is encompassing.

    “You keep claiming there’s this god entity…”

    Actually you’re claiming you have no knowledge of God. Just because you’re temporal lobe insensitive, doesn’t mean you have no knowledge, it’s just that even you choose to hide it from yourself. You choose to negate what little suppositions are made to you.

    Well if I have emotional feelings, at least I’m human. Psychopaths, they do not have one particular feeling known as empathy.

    “… I can see no logical connection.” At least you have identified a key point.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2LwnaUA-k — a video you might enjoy.

    Ultimately, if you see no logical connections, the least you can ask a few questions above as to why it might be suspicious.

  • MindMe

    @faro0485
    “No you haven’t tasted any quran, not a drop.”

    How do you know? See my comment above.

    “Tell me, why do you invoke the term “authority”…”

    Because you keep simply invoking the need for a god entity to explain that which is adequately explained by materialist means. You’ve yet to demonstrate the reality of that entity.

    “No you gave a reference to methodology in find mathematical models. Six paces on a board, are not random paces just because you decided to roll a dice. They are six exact paces. Not roll a dice, and you get 6 and instead randomly move 5.”

    I gave you an example of what I mean by randomness. You’re still not getting to why that’s not random. Anyway, I’m not talking events that are purely random. I’m talking about accidents and I’ve clearly defined what I mean by that term.

    “Actually you’re claiming you have no knowledge of God.”

    I have knowledge of what people think god is. I have no evidence that god exists in reality.

    “… I can see no logical connection.” At least you have identified a key point.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2LwnaUA-k — a video you might enjoy.

    I don’t really see how that video applies to the claim these scientists could have been assassinated.

    “Ultimately, if you see no logical connections, the least you can ask a few questions above as to why it might be suspicious.”

    Yeah. I have. I’ve not gotten an answer.

  • faro0485

    @mindme

    Because people who have, either wholly accept it… or attack it fully. There is no middle ground between those who have tasted it.

    Interesting, you say that the consensus of scientists are your “authority” ie Gods. Why are they your gods? Shouldn’t they be considered fallible? Do you take your authority as a group of individuals who have no knowledge other than what they each specialize in?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making#Criticism

    Does the rule of consensus work for democracies? You say yes? Based on what? Technological advancement? But dear sir, how can technological advancement be a sign of progress upon humanity when we saw people like the Nazis be far superior than most when it came to developing technology?

    Rather is it curious that it’s more beneficial to them that you worship their scientists and what not, than you worshipping God?

    God who commands the following: http://goo.gl/nrCtK

    “I gave you an example of what I mean by randomness. You’re still not getting to why that’s not random.”

    It’s not what you define as accident or random. But let’s refer to the etymology of random:

    “having no definite aim or purpose,” 1650s, from at random (1560s), “at great speed” (thus, “carelessly, haphazardly”), alteration of M.E. randon “impetuosity, speed” (c.1300), from O.Fr. randon “rush, disorder, force, impetuosity,” from randir “to run fast,” from Frankish *rant “a running,” from P.Gmc. *randa (cf. O.H.G. rennen “to run,” O.E. rinnan “to flow, to run”).

    I’ll explain. When a person runs at great speed… he will flash by you. Because your eyes can only pick up a few number of frames. Loss of information while an event is taking place, that’s what the word means.

    That term, random is from the Germanic, while accident is from the latin.

    accident – late 14c., “an occurrence, incident, event,” from O.Fr. accident (12c.), from L. accidentem (nom. accidens), prp. of accidere “happen, fall out, fall upon,” from ad- “to” (see ad-) + cadere “fall” (see case (1)). Meaning grew from “something that happens, an event,” to “something that happens by chance,” then “mishap.” Meaning “unplanned child” is attested by 1932.

    Let me explain, the ad- prefix tells us about something to happen in the future. The -ent suffix signifies action. Why future befalling/case action? Because we do not see the innitial that leads to to the case, if we did it would be ex-case-ent.

    I’ll give you an example. Someone throws a ball in sky randomly. The effect of that ball will be that it will land. But we cannot see the ad-fact, or in that scenario the ad-case. But when we see that the ball will just about potentially land on someone’s head, there’s the affect of our action. We say “it was an accident” past tense, though the knowledge of an accident happening is in that instant we realize that that happened as a result of not having information. But if someone just saw a case, and there was no known cause, we term it as accident. We also term it as accident because the parties involved did not know the effect, but might have known the affect or at least come to know the affect.

    In human society, we desire to find out why something happened… because we can be egotistical, we like putting the blame on other than us. So thank God for Quran 4:78-79

    http://goo.gl/HNhNp

    That is what science is. Where a person themselves desires to find out about things, not just technology or earth sciences, but human case events sciences.

    To believe that there is something out there that we cannot know, for a scientist… that’s not science. Why not know, or we ourselves might not be able to know certain things. But the potential of making baby steps is that one day we’ll grow up and be able to run and complete several thousand miles. But someone who says that they cannot do that, is forgetting that the guy who runs, did not achieve that randomly.

    Your example of randomness, only confers to humans who have no knowledge. Where as to God, God is closer to you than you are to your jugular vein. Question, where are you?

    You don’t have knowledge of God. Is it an accident that others worship God?

    No? Only some things are accidents? Why? Because we lack knowledge of how they occurred.

    Do we leave it at that?

    People have temporal lobe evidence. Are you saying that you do not have a sensitive temporal lobe? Then let me push you and say that you’d be correct to state that your temporal lobes are insensitive.

    http://goo.gl/Wc1Qt

    That video by Vilayanur Ramachandran, explains how some can see, while you cannot see. Or at least see and associate feels or other understanding. The example given at the end with the mirror explains that there is something you did in your life which caused your thinking to be unlike the others here.

    Verifying the causes of their deaths, is a case by case thing. But accepting that each of them are suspicious or are a conspiracy (remember, there’s no such thing as theory in criminal conspiracy)… now that’s something that requires a certain sort of thought process.

    You have not gotten an answer you say? No one is going to give you the answer, you have to work out the problem on your own.

  • MindMe

    faro0485
    ||Interesting, you say that the consensus of scientists are your “authority” ie Gods.||

    I didn’t say that at all. I said I err on the side of consensus science. Science recognizes there is no absolute truth, our knowledge will always be tentative and in need of revision as new evidence comes forward. Because we live in a world of imperfect knowledge, and because I cannot personally test the safety of every bridge I must cross, every plane I get on, everything I ingest, as an expedient it is better to err on the side of scientific consensus.

    ||http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making#Criticism||

    You’re conflating political consensus decision making with scientific consensus. The status quo, for example, in science is being revised constantly.

    ||But dear sir, how can technological advancement be a sign of progress upon humanity when we saw people like the Nazis be far superior than most when it came to developing technology?||

    Humans will always use the tools around them imperfectly. You should probably turn off your computer right now if you feel this way. You can just as easily use your computer for good or evil. Your argument is a non sequitor.

    Again, you totally sidestep both my definition of accident and randomness. Return to what I’ve said and argue against that.

    ||To believe that there is something out there that we cannot know, for a scientist… that’s not science. ||

    What scientist believes that? Could you quote one?

    ||You don’t have knowledge of God. Is it an accident that others worship God?||

    I know quite a bit about many religions and what people think their god is. So what?

    People have temporal lobe evidence. Are you saying that you do not have a sensitive temporal lobe? Then let me push you and say that you’d be correct to state that your temporal lobes are insensitive.

    Dr Persinger’s “god hat” is cool ‘n’ all but as far as I know he’d never tried it with a placebo control. If you give people water and tell them it’s vodka, some people will claim to be drunk. What’s your point?

    ||Verifying the causes of their deaths, is a case by case thing. But accepting that each of them are suspicious or are a conspiracy (remember, there’s no such thing as theory in criminal conspiracy)… now that’s something that requires a certain sort of thought process.||

    It’s called a massive leap in logic that’s unwarranted by the evidence.

    ||You have not gotten an answer you say? No one is going to give you the answer, you have to work out the problem on your own.||

    I have. There is no mystery to the list. It’s simply cherry picking.

  • faro0485

    It seems that in some cases, non-sequitor can be confused with that disease of the amygdala.

    Not only that but you’re saying “scientific consensus”, when there is no such thing other than the consensus of scientists. That is the political part.

    It’s certain that what you’re missing is also an active amygdala as well as temporal lobes.

    For example, using a tool, is not the same thing as relying upon a tool. There are stages between use, and addiction ie need. There is also a difference with that which we need. For example, a person using their pc for checking business emails is not the same thing as someone at work checking porn videos. What’s the difference, one is professional the other is not.

    It’s that point which we’re lacking here, ie a professional look at these deaths.

    There’s is revision in science procedure, but it’s from religion we learn procedures, where we learn procedures of gaining knowledge. Procedures of ethics. The finalization of religion, islam, that is where we find the best procedures.

    Question, if science recognizes no truth… then where did the methodology for science come from? Science has not changed in the last 1400 years. Cars might look different from 100 years back, but most of it is still based upon the combustion engine, or even the electric motor.

    I haven’t side stepped the argument of accident and random. I’ve expanded it. But your argument to you is an illusion being made a reality to you, only because you do not (or cannot) comprehend God. Maybe this will God willing help you: http://everythingforever.com/st_math.htm

    “To believe that there is something out there that we cannot know, for a scientist… that’s not science.”

    I hope none states such a thing, but there have been those who have said we have entered into the final accomplishments of human and knowledge. I cannot recall the individuals names who have said that, but the question wouldn’t have been asked by yourself: http://seefurtherfestival.org/events/view/do-we-know-everything-yet

    Dr Persinger’s research. He’s not a fly by guy with a magical hat. But actually he insists that there were placebo controls. And he also insisted that the Swedish team failed to properly replicate.

    Evidence? This is a matter for detectives. If someone gave you money, would you then search for evidence? For money? No?

    Massive are the leaps of those who have the cognition as opposed to the one with only an iq of 100, well compared to someone with 200 IQ.

    Well detective inspector MindMe, you can stamp case closed and move on to stopping cars and shaking them down for illegally having £5.

  • MindMe

    ||It’s certain that what you’re missing is also an active amygdala as well as temporal lobes.||

    Again, sorry if I don’t take your word for it. You live your life via raw assertion and authority.

    ||It’s that point which we’re lacking here, ie a professional look at these deaths.||

    How do you know a professional has not looked at these deaths? Certainly the murders and suicides are investigated professionally.

    ||There’s is revision in science procedure, but it’s from religion we learn procedures, where we learn procedures of gaining knowledge. Procedures of ethics. The finalization of religion, islam, that is where we find the best procedures.||

    You might learn that from religion. I don’t. I learn it from other sources.

    ||Question, if science recognizes no truth… then where did the methodology for science come from? ||

    Define truth.

    ||Science has not changed in the last 1400 years.||

    Totally incorrect. Ever hear of a guy named Popper?

    ||I hope none states such a thing, but there have been those who have said we have entered into the final accomplishments of human and knowledge. I cannot recall the individuals names who have said that||

    If you cannot recall who thinks this way, they’re clearly not thought leaders or represent how the vast majority of scientists think. I’m sure there are a handful of scientists who believe in scientism but they are in the minority. Don’t make up a consensus where you can’t even begin to point to chief actors.

    ||Dr Persinger’s research. He’s not a fly by guy with a magical hat. But actually he insists that there were placebo controls.||

    Which were?

    ||Well detective inspector MindMe, you can stamp case closed and move on to stopping cars and shaking them down for illegally having £5.||

    No. I see a handful of cherry picked names, no connection, and claim without evidence. The null hypothesis is there’s no connection. It’s not my job to prove the null hypothesis. It’s the job of the person making the claim to offer compelling evidence. Talk about god hats and hand waving references to koran passages don’t really amount to evidence.

  • faro0485

    You’d take the consensus of your people?

    Professionalism is not the guy who’s given a TSA badge. Professionalism is what we all can achieve, and must. We can’t pass the buck. What happens with those who we pass the buck to and up using it in a sock to hit others heads in?

    I was taught to learn from all sources. I try not to turn my back.

    Truth isn’t what Karl Propper wanted, truth is truth. Arriving at truth is using all tools.

    But use only criticism,

    Quran 40:35 translation
    Those who dispute concerning the signs of Allah without an authority having come to them – great is hatred [of them] in the sight of God and in the sight of those who have believed. Thus does God seal over every heart [belonging to] an arrogant tyrant.

    Deception is less clear. You have to change your focus to see them.

    In regards to falsification though, the quran does mention falsification. But it’s something that’s aimed at it’s critics.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y_hhuWqB_E

    Are you telling me I shouldn’t say some things? Why?

    You can easily search up Dr Persinger’s rebuttal.

    You see no connections, you have a mental issue. Just like Dawkins and all atheists suffer. Why would it be the job of the person making the claim, when all that person is doing is saying that they see something. You know “see something, say something”.

    So, none of these people were assassinated, and what if there was evidence tomorrow? Would you say “only after there was evidence, were they assassinated… before that, they were lying to me!”

  • MindMe

    faro0485

    ||You’d take the consensus of your people?||

    Who are my people?

    ||So, none of these people were assassinated, and what if there was evidence tomorrow? Would you say “only after there was evidence, were they assassinated… before that, they were lying to me!”||

    They could have all been assassinated. There’s zero evidence for it and you’ve presented none. People die. People die in accidents. People die of disease. I can pick any profession (“the great chefs of europe”) and then ask “oh were they assassinated?” That’s a claim, one that demands evidence. A ? mark does not constitute evidence.

    ||before that, they were lying to me||

    Not sure who you mean by “they”. Frankly, the points you try to make are poorly expressed and I can only sometimes just guess at what you’re trying to say.

    ||You see no connections, you have a mental issue. Just like Dawkins and all atheists suffer. ||

    Dawkins is a renowned scientist with several peer reviewed scientific papers under his belt. He surely can see connections. Just because one does not share your religious faith, does not mean one has a mental issue. I could toss that charge back at you.

    ||You can easily search up Dr Persinger’s rebuttal. ||

    Funny you can’t articulate it.

  • faro0485

    MindMe,

    you’ll know your people.

    Listen, how about since you say you can pick any profession… go and do that and prove your point.

    No a question mark is asking for answers to explain the peculiarities someone might notice.

    That’s the spirit, attempt a guess. You’re given such a tool, use it. Is there harm in guessing?

    Technology can be a dangerous thing if but only one thing in the tool cabinet went bad.

    And here’s me thinking that Dawkins was a neo-darwinian propaganda mouth piece. http://revelation4-11.blogspot.com/2010/07/scientific-track-record-of-richard.html

    But ultimately, you might want to have a second look at that research by Dr Persinger. Because it doesn’t sound like you err on the side of “scientific consensus”, but rather on the side of those criticising research. Your mention of Karl Popper is evidence towards that.

    “can’t articulate it” – Dr Persinger’s response to the Swedish team was clear enough.

  • MindMe

    ||you’ll know your people.||

    Sorry, I’m not even going to guess what you’re implying.

    ||And here’s me thinking that Dawkins was a neo-darwinian propaganda mouth piece. http://revelation4-11.blogspot.com/2010/07/scientific-track-record-of-richard.html||

    I’m not sure what you’re implying. Dawkins is a scientist. He’s published a number of peer reviewed papers. He’s demonstrated the ability you seem to think he lacks.

    ||”can’t articulate it” – Dr Persinger’s response to the Swedish team was clear enough.||

    And yet you still can’t articulate it.

  • faro0485

    MindMe,

    turn the statement into a question. “My people”, you have the option who, what, when, how and why to that with the addition suitable term for grammar.

    There’s no harm in attempting guessing.

    Dawkins, I’ve read one or two of his books, and I know that he’s mostly a science commentator, or rather a pro-atheism pro-dawkin evolutionism science commentator. That’s his speciality. He doesn’t use a scientific method in commentating. And that link suggested that the majority of his work is commentary.

    Oh I do apologize, you asked for Dr Persinger’s response. And no it’s not can’t, it was “wont”, as I was limited on time.

    Basically the Swedish team led by Granqvist decided to focus only on the sensed presence part of the experiment, though they originally intended to work with PET readings as was in the case in Persinger’s test. One of the biggest issues with even the sensed presence test was that the swedish team used a computer system with a very high frequency that would have resulted in much more noise than what Persinger used. Not only that but Granqvist’s team told their subjects that the test was about experiencing feelings. Where as Persinger only told them that they were going to go through a relaxation experiment, Persinger’s test was double blind including the system being tested on the subjects while turned off and on. The only one I know who knew what the test was about was Dawkins. But Dawkin’s was told “this’ll make you feel things”, and after he went through it he was disappointed that he didn’t feel anything but a twitch in is leg and some weighty breathing. I wonder, do stunned animals suffer weighty breathing while they twitch their legs?

    Ultimately there’s more about that minor point here: http://www.innerworlds.50megs.com/The_God_Helmet_Debate.htm

    “Although Granqvist told the media that he found no results attributable to the stimulation, his published paper actually says that the fields could be working, through an interaction with the subject’s suggestibility.”

  • MindMe

    The swedish team disagrees with his response that his trials were properly blinded.

    Dawkins cut his teeth doing good science. He has certainly changed roles as an educator but so what? The only point I was trying to make is your unfounded, undocumented claim Dawkins (and other atheists) can’t see connections. Scientists and good educators (people who have to explain things and show, you know, connections) have jobs where they have to make connections or they fail. Dawkins is rather a success. You’re simply inventing some phenomenon out of whole cloth to support your argument. You’ve been called on it (like your bizarre claim science hadn’t changed in thousands of years until I reminded you of Popper). Now you’re trying to shift the goal post and claim “well, Dawkins hasn’t worked much as a real scientist in several years.”

    Your arguments are increasingly silly as they are unfounded and lacking basic facts to support them.

  • faro0485

    That Swedish team was bunk. Dawkins doesn’t do science, he parades atheistic claims.
    http://www.stateofnature.org/scientistOrPropagandist.html

    But you trying to link claim “scientists and only good educators = atheists (because we all know that the non-scientists and bad educators = everyone else)” … isn’t that a little egotistical? Will you be willing to hold the mess of the society that these atheistic scientists are leading your country towards? No? You’re going to claim that it was religion? Isn’t that what atheists do all the time, claim the good was from their work, and the bad the cause of someone else. Quran 4:78-79 speaks of that.

    No no, these jobs that they do, are only for the sole purpose of that specific task. It’s not about making connections.

    The success rate of a person is not a measure of their scientific quotient.

    Dawkins is only a neo-darwinian propagandist. If any atheist is a scientist, I’ll eat my invisible hat.

    No, I still stand by my words that science has not changed since the Quran. Your reference to Popper was dismissed, since Quran already teaches falsification… but it directs it to it’s critics, as opposed to those who want to agree to it.

  • MindMe

    “That Swedish team was bunk.”

    In your opinion.

    “Dawkins doesn’t do science, he parades atheistic claims. ”

    Manifestly wrong, as demonstrated by his publication record. Yes, he’s moved on to being a science educator and a resource for those who seek to impose religion on science. But so what? You’ve stuck with one career for your whole life?

    “But you trying to link claim “scientists and only good educators = atheists (because we all know that the non-scientists and bad educators = everyone else)” … isn’t that a little egotistical?”

    A silly strawman. I claimed no such thing. Read above to see what I was claiming. I think I repeated it twice already. Not sure if rehearsing it a third time will do any good.

    “‘Your reference to Popper was dismissed, since Quran already teaches falsification… but it directs it to it’s critics, as opposed to those who want to agree to it.”

    In your opinion that bit of religious poetry is speaking about science. It does not read that way to me at all. You can hammer the bible, nostrodamus, etc. to mean anything you want. Fallacy: cherry picking. Could you direct me to islamic scientists who were using that passage as justification for falsification pre-Popper? Religious people have a wonderful track record of taking the work of real scientists and then running back to their religious texts and going “oh look this passage out of context totally proves my invisible sky god knew about this!”

    Anyway, I’m not here to argue your whole faith in an invisible sky god is irrational. I’m simply here to argue there’s zero evidence to connect these deaths to one central actor. Yeah maybe your invisible sky god has a hand in it, but there’s no evidence.

  • faro0485

    Incorrect, your aware of the implications of said research… but in the meanwhile most atheists were harping on about how it was the greatist proof for them. But when they realize they run to find that swedish team. Many before you have done that already. I’m glad that the truth is scary because terror does come from God.

    Today Dawkins is known for, not no research, but propaganda. I know many scientists are nazi like, especially biologists. Thats why they live, while these are assasinated by suicide note.

    Let me remind you, you equated making connections is part of scientists and good educators. That is true. But to claim Dawkins is that, that’s the BS you gave to which I paraphrased the suggestion you created. Dawkins makes no connections other than how to beguile the people. Is he a fool or we greater fools to accept his nonsense???

    I already did direct you, refer to the history of the scientific method, and seriously have a miniscule plus one of knowledge of Islam.

    You can cry fallcy all day, but from God all things came, to God must it all return.

    What a joke, atheisming religious people appropriated science, when it actually was them.

    Remember your terminology of invisible itself provdes proof to you being temporal lobe insensetive. Bow down to God, so that God may come to you.

  • MindMe

    “Incorrect, your aware of the implications of said research…”

    Your opinion. Not mine. We can go back and forth like this all day.

    “but in the meanwhile most atheists were harping on about how it was the greatist proof for them.”

    No. If true, it is compelling evidence for the material basis for consciousness. But I’d like to see a good well controlled study. The rest of your claim is a straw man.

    “Today Dawkins is known for, not no research, but propaganda.”

    In your opinion. Not mine. Dawkins is known for publishing highly rational looks at religion and its effect on society. Again, he’s making these connections in your singular opinion atheist are incapable of making. Do you base any of your beliefs on rational grounds or is it all just opinion and confirmation bias with you?

    “I know many scientists are nazi like, especially biologists. ”

    Wow. I bet they’re glad to know you back, calling them Nazi like. Could you define what makes a scientist “nazi like” and then supply some names (besides actual nazi scientists) and why they meet that definition?

    “Thats why they live, while these are assasinated by suicide note.”

    That makes zero sense.

    “I already did direct you, refer to the history of the scientific method, and seriously have a miniscule plus one of knowledge of Islam.”

    Again, you avoid the direct evidence I asked for. You claimed Popper’s concept of falsification was already known to Islamic science. You supplied, laughably, a passage from the koran that had nothing to do with science. You simply cherry picked a single passage. Well, maybe this passage inspired islamic science so I asked you to provide evidence that islamic scientists spoke of falsification as a part of the scientific method. You can offer none. I submit your passage has nothing to do with science and it’s merely cherry picking a vague quote. Silly.

    “Remember your terminology of invisible itself provdes proof to you being temporal lobe insensetive. Bow down to God, so that God may come to you.”

    I don’t bow to santa claus, tooth fairies, or invisible sky gods. You might. That’s your choice. I prefer to live in the real world.

  • faro0485

    MindMe, by insisting that such a thing is my opinion, your attempting to make it foreign and not considering the thought of it actually emanating from you. Your negating any possibility in attempt to protect your position.

    As for claiming that “if” it was true than even then your belief of a material reality would be proven true… even that is your defense mechanism protecting avenues for if in case down the line.

    When I referred you to the rebuttal and review of both tests, it was clear that the Swedish team failed to do any proper controls where as Persinger maintained adequate controls (double blind).

    You ignored this for some strange reason, what could that have been?

    How do you explain the results that atheists are cut off from feeling spiritualism? And not only that, we learn in scripture that God cuts them off because of their critical questioning nature against God’s signs/verses.

    Dawkins has no qualification to question religion or even society. Not to mention that his studies are very shallow when it comes to religion.

    So it is obvious he will live a very very long life with the desire to accidentally kill himself.

    His followers are always committing biases, and he himself is commits manifold biases.

    You speak of confirmation, wouldn’t you prefer to avoid committing that and attempt to consolidate between your own self and information you receive?

    As for Nazi scientists, I refer you to anyone who is in favor of depopulation.

    Sorry what does Karl Popper have to do with science? Exactly, he was a philosopher. So taking something that was already philosophized, and reversing it to something deformed… that is unacceptable, what the quran teaches is that if there are critics against it, then such and such are methods they can attempt to prove it wrong. It’s an option clause. But those already obeying the quran, if they didn’t see that then they would have gone after 49:6.
    Let me make it clear to you, I did not write “falsification was already known to Islamic science”, I said it was already given as an example from God to critics before mankind. But seriously,

    Question, why is modern methodology split into Popper vs Feyerabend?

    I note that Feyerabend explains that falsification renders past theories as Godly.

    So why do you cherry pick methodologies while putting words into my mouth as well as ignoring philosophy?

    http://coraifeartaigh.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/shrn788h.jpg?

    You bow down to a philosopher…

    How about you bow before God? ie where they all and even Hitchens returned to.

    And then you can pray for knowledge.

  • MindMe

    “MindMe, by insisting that such a thing is my opinion, your attempting to make it foreign and not considering the thought of it actually emanating from you. Your negating any possibility in attempt to protect your position. ”

    No. Wrong again. I’m pointing out areas you need to supply fact.

    “When I referred you to the rebuttal and review of both tests, it was clear that the Swedish team failed to do any proper controls where as Persinger maintained adequate controls (double blind).”

    Again, the Swedish team disagrees.

    “Dawkins has no qualification to question religion or even society.”

    In your opinion. He’s an educator, a biologist, has published numerous well received books on religion, and was the University of Oxford’s Professor for Public Understanding. That seems to me to make him more qualified. But that’s my opinion.

    “Not to mention that his studies are very shallow when it comes to religion. ”

    For example?

    “Sorry what does Karl Popper have to do with science? Exactly, he was a philosopher.”

    Wow because the philosophy of science has nothing at all to do with science and how the methodology should be changed. Stunning you should even have to ask that.

    And still you return with silly opinion and hand waving claims and don’t back what should be a simple claim. Let me repeat the challenge. This is your last chance to answer or else it will be obvious you’re wrong.

    You claimed Popper’s concept of falsification was already known to Islamic science. You supplied, laughably, a passage from the koran that had nothing to do with science. You simply cherry picked a single passage. Well, maybe this passage inspired islamic science so I asked you to provide evidence that islamic scientists spoke of falsification as a part of the scientific method. You can offer none. I submit your passage has nothing to do with science and it’s merely cherry picking a vague quote. Silly.

    “How about you bow before God?”

    Your god seems to me like a child’s belief in santa and a tooth fairy. I don’t bow before imaginary friends. You’re free to, in my opinion, waste your time.

  • faro0485

    The Swedish team disagrees??? Who cares about them?? I don’t care for bumbling fumbling clowns, why should you?

    http://www.innerworlds.50megs.com/The_God_Helmet_Debate.htm

    “the Simonyi Professorship of the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University” – sorry you were you saying something about Oxford putting him there? No no, a business man financed that position for Dawkins.

    Dawkins mighe studied Animal behavior… but he has no qualification in regards to religion, sociology or even languages. He is nothing but a preacher who got to high places with big money.

    He’s like a modern Ayn Rand, books full of drivel, but his fans love him. Where as the above dead are dismissed.

    Sorry did I say studies? My mistake, I meant his books are very shallow when they mention religion. I’m not going to mention the examples because this post is not about Dawkins, but the scientists who die suddenly vs one who rises with business money.

    I may read into words, but you are putting words into my words. Never did I say “philosophy of science has nothing at all to do with science”, I made it clear that Popper was not a scientist, but a philosopher. You want to refer to philosophy? Then don’t ignore the Quran. Don’t ignore God’s philosophy. Especially as it was drilled into the subconscious of those arabs who developed a civilization.

    I never cherry picked any passages. I never even quoted a passage, are you following a script? That “if a believer says this you reply xyz”, maybe you are?

    Listen, forget the script, be generous to yoursel, and use your own mind. Stop asking for things that someone told you that you have to ask. Come to your own conclusions based upon what is available at hand. I specifically noted Feyerabend being in opposition to Popper while he himself was the student of Popper.

    You do know that in reality, you already do submit to God. Wouldn’t you prefer to be aware?

  • MindMe

    ||The Swedish team disagrees??? Who cares about them?? I don’t care for bumbling fumbling clowns, why should you?||

    I care about the debate. Ultimately, it matters little. If he is correct, then a “god center” to the brain is well in keeping with an evolutionary perspective. Its a survival benefit to make these false positive errors.

    “Dawkins mighe studied Animal behavior… but he has no qualification in regards to religion, sociology or even languages.”

    What qualifies one to argue about the intersection of science and religion?

    “I meant his books are very shallow when they mention religion.”

    In your opinion.

    “I may read into words, but you are putting words into my words. Never did I say “philosophy of science has nothing at all to do with science”, I made it clear that Popper was not a scientist, but a philosopher. ”

    Dude. Popper is considered one of the greatest philosophers of science. You really don’t even know what you’re arguing about.

    http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/sum2009/entries/popper/

    “Then don’t ignore the Quran. Don’t ignore God’s philosophy. ”

    God’s philosophy? How do I know it’s god’s philosophy. Some dude wrote it. So what? It’s his philosophy about god. Not a good one, in my opinion.

  • faro0485

    MindMe,

    you care about debate? We’re not supposed to be debating, what’s with this war path? It’s supposed to be a dialogue.

    http://www.nald.ca/library/learning/study/scdvd.htm

    This is where Karl Popper came in and destroyed the minds of people. Always at war with one another.

    http://ngin.tripod.com/pb.htm

    Quran 17:53 translation
    And tell My slaves to say that which is best. Indeed, Satan induces discord among them. Indeed Satan is ever, to mankind, a clear enemy.

    And no, we are not slaves of “some dude” named Muhammad (may God have peace upon him).

    Oh and since you claimed he messenger was a liar, you have to prove that. Otherwise retract since such a claim would lead us down to another road diverging from this article.

    But isn’t that what you’re saying? These people have gut feeling that there is something not quite right here. But you want to tell me “unless some official says something, I’m not going to believe anything”. What kind of behaviour is that? Isn’t that the government/officials creating division between you and your people?

    I believe those qualified to rank the greatest of history, disagree with the claim of Karl Popper being anything as so: http://www.adherents.com/adh_influ.html

    Karl Popper… it seems to me was someone that the government today would love to praise. Tell me, who falsifies the falsifiers?

    You have falsified the need to research the above, rather you would be on the potential side of those who would be called up for suspicion… I can understand that you desire to defend an accused because they have more than what the other guy has, but the public will have an opinion about that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u9JAt6gFqM

  • Upaces

    Mindme, it is a site for debate. People get upset when others don’t completely agree with them.

  • Upaces

    Mind me, next time someone argues and quotes the Quran, remind them that the Muslims believe that Mary was a Virgin and that the Father was God (Allah) — so why are they murdering those who believe in Jesus Christ?

    IF they want to sway anyone towards Islam? Fear, murder and chaos is not the way to encourage anyone to believe in their religious beliefs.

  • faro0485

    Upaces,

    whats the difference bet5ween (suicide) assassination and open public terroristic murder?

    The first is to silence the 115 above, and the second is to silence those who are claimed to have done the murder.

    And God is never called أَبَانَا

  • Upaces

    faro0485, good point. VERY good point.

  • MindMe

    Faro, who am I claiming was a liar?

  • faro0485

    I said falsified, I didn’t say “liar”.

  • MindMe

    Faro you made this bizarre comment:

    “Oh and since you claimed he messenger was a liar, you have to prove that.”

    You said “liar”. I asked you who I called a liar.

  • faro0485

    That he should be a the.

  • MindMe

    I gathered that. But clarifying your typo doesn’t clarify anything. Which messenger was I claiming was a liar? Where did I claim this messenger was a liar?

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