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That's another fine mess you've gotten me into.

Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:41

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As CU says, what a mess. Too weak to govern. Too strong to give up. And an opposition too weak to govern and too strong to not want to try.

Plus a preferred coalition partner that could cause more problems than they solve.

John Major made the point that the Belfast Agreement specifically states no single political party in Northern Ireland can receive favourable treatment from the UK government. Awkward.

Johnnie M might be an arch remainer, determined to scupper any Brexit, but even his wet Toryism doesn’t want to see the Corbyn Comintern Co-operative Progressives raising the red flag over number ten.And he does know a thing or two about northern Irish politics and treaties and how very likely they are to unravel over a grievance.

So, a signed up agreement is probably a worse idea than signing the DUP up.

Which means instability.

What are the realistic options.

Going for another election immediately, or even this year, would probably result in a no more favourable result and possibly a much worse one. Its also an option available anytime. When better alternatives have failed. Bottom of the pile for this idea.

What is actually needed is a stronger alliance. With people who share similar values. And won’t be too demanding and excitable. Blairites would be ideal! But they are long gone.

The SNP would be destroyed forever by any association of any kind with their English Overlords. No matter how many airports Theresa promises, it won’t be enough to convince any of the SNP to take the bribe. Forget them.

Which leaves the Liberals. 12 MPs. That, plus the implied support of the DUP, is good enough. Slightly better than it was before the election.

The problem is, the Tories invited the Liberals into coalition before. It didn’t work out well for them.

And ended with a bloodbath of murdered Liberal MPS, struck down by their former friends,the treacherous Tories, that would make a good season finale for Game of Thrones.

The Yellow Wedding.

However, there is a faint, faint possibility that the Liberals could be tempted into a con-sup arrangement.

Firstly, the Liberals need to be made aware that most of their misfortunes following the coalition, were of their own making. The Conservatives never told them to put free tuition fees into their manifesto. When Cameron said “Sure..if you like,” to the Liberal’s key demand, referendum on proportional voting, that was their choice. Not Cameron’s. They wanted the green energy ministry. They were welcome to it.

If they hadn’t spent decades being duplicitous, hypocritical, two faced liars, it might have worked out better for them.

Unlikely as they are to want to join their former abusers, who not only took all their seats in 2015, but now also want to leave their beloved European Union, the Liberals just might, might, think again.

They have just dropped their ineffective and unpromising leader. They will have a better one in any of their four main favourites. Davey. Lamb. Swinson. Cable.

Their Remoaner strategy that we looked at here, has failed. Failed badly. Its not the future.

Scottish unionism is a viable strategy. Soft brexit nonsense, is a fantasy that will play better than rejoin-remain did. It needs much more thought and detail and proper proposals. But it won’t be dismissed now like it would have been two weeks ago, by a desperate Theresa May.

The Liberals could, for their support, on a limited time, limited offer basis, achieve two key aims. And could, with the right leader, recover much of the respect they have lost.

It does take great courage and vision. Not something normally associated with the Liberal Democrats.

The pitch is this.

1. A seat on Brexit negotiations. As part of the government’s official team. A seat and a voice and a vote. This needs to be realistic. There can’t be a veto of Brexit. But there could be a vote on yes/no/try again. doesn’t have to be viable. Just has to be able to look like it could be viable.

2. Free tuition fees.
Actual, delivered, free tuition fees for university students.
£36-40 billion is an estimate of what that would cost. In the fine print it can be taken lower. EU and foreign students pay more. The worst 20 universities must close. A certain number of made up Mickey-Mouse subjects can be excluded from the offer. Free school meals scrappage in the small print too. Very small. Right at the back.
The U-turn explanation is, the people clearly wanted it. And its already free in Germany.
And all the major and minor parties already agree.
The existing student debt will be sucked in to this too. And that may have to be written off too.
Austerity is over. Gordonomics is back. Investing isn’t really spending. And investing in our natural resources, people, is the priority of government for a sustainable future ..Yada yada yada.

But think of the headlines!

“Liberal Democrats, under new leader Jo Swxxxx, have already delivered the impossible. A free higher education for all. This isn’t some Corbyn fantasy manifesto. Its a real commitment that will be debated on in 2018 and enacted in 2019. Enacted by the government in power.
Not by some possible future government but the real one. One that this time, the liberal democrats can remove themselves from at any time, if this proposed bill on free higher education is not delivered. A victory for every aspiring young person in the land.”

Its the easiest possible sell in government.
Corbyn has already promised it. he can’t back out. All the progressives want it and are already signed up. Scotland already has it. So no more one rule for us one for them. Students want it. The middle class should be Tory voters anyway parents of middle class students want it also.
If they don’t do it, Corbyn will say he will, and his tricky new problem of the youth won’t have been addressed.

Say that £80 billion is coming out of the future sale of the banks – RBS and Bradford and Bingley. And the EU payments we won’t be making. And by not paying the £100 bn EU divorce bill.
Beneficially this forces the Libbers to be more realistic about Brexit. Fixes some of the yoof issue for a while.
Next election held during the summer holiday period is the other genie bottle stuffing plan for reducing this new demographic.

Anyway, as a result of just £50 billion in free stuff with an ongoing £25-£30 billion a year cost to education, TM will have got of the hole she dug herself and will be marginally better off than before she jumped into it.

About the same as paying for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars in total, each year.
Or a 10% hike in VAT.

Or, as jeremy himself proposes, stick it on the nation’s Mastercard. Just pay the interest. And let someone else in the future say “This is another fine mess they got me into.”

Source: http://www.cityunslicker.co.uk/2017/06/thats-another-fine-mess-youve-gotten-me.html

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