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Evangelical Louie Giglio and Wife Shelley Paying Worship to Pope Francis at ‘Renewal With the Spirit’ 2015

Sunday, July 16, 2017 13:25
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There could be another pressing factor in the Pope’s enthusiasm for such meetings – a wave of conversions, particularly in Latin America, where it is estimated that100 million Catholics have converted to evangelical Christianity. Now, it appears that Pope Francis would like to evangelize the evangelicals.

“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.” 1 John 2:18-20 (KJV)

Pope Francis is a firm believer in ecumenism, not because he believes in alternate points of view, but because he knows the charismatics and pentecostals so led by their feelings and so light on doctrine are very easily led. And where is he leading them?

Right into the nasty, smelly arms of the Mother of Harlots, the Roman Catholic church.

The Roman Catholic ‘Renewal With The Spirit’ convocation in 2015 read like a who’s who of the the evangelical world.

Starting in 2014, Bible lightweight Joel Osteen made the trek to Rome to bow down before the Pope. He was followed in short order by pastor Tim Timmons and president of the Evangelical Westmont College Gayle D. Beebe.

Louie Giglio And His Wife Shelley Giving Worship To The Roman Pontiff Pope Francis:

Pope Francis then met June 24th of that year with the televangelists James Robins and Kenneth Copeland, with the bishop Anthony Palmer of the Communion Evangelical Episcopal Churches, with the spouses John and Carol Arnott from Toronto and – among others – with Geoff Tunnicliffe and Brian C. Stiller, respectively general secretary and ambassador of the World Evangelical Alliance.

According to the prominent Italian vaticanista Sandro Magister, through these meetings Pope Francis is putting into action a broad effort to “win the favor of the worldwide leaders of those ‘evangelical’ and Pentecostal movements which especially in Latin America are the most fearsome competitor of the Catholic Church, from which they are snatching enormous masses of the faithful.”

Kenneth Copeland Is Selling His Flock To The Vatican:

Attending the Renewal with the Spirit convocation is part of this effort. Pope Francis himself acknowledged – during his trip back from World Youth Day in Rio de Janeiro – that he used to look at charismatic movements with suspicion, and that he later changed his mind, and now he believes that “this movement does much good for the Church overall.”

Mixed in amongst this Laodicean smorgasdboard was Pastor Louie Giglio of the Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. Louie and his wife, Shelley, were caught on tape paying obeisance to Pope Francis “Mafia-style” by kissing him on both cheeks while asking for his blessing. If you have seen the crime epic ‘The Godfather’ with Marlon Brando, then you know exactly what I am talking about. I have enjoyed some of Louie’s sermons in the past, like ‘Laminin‘, but now must warn fellow Bible beliebers that he has departed from the path.

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” Ephesians 5:11 (KJV)

Stay far, far away from this ecumenical junk, it is the doctrine of demons. The Catholic Whore isn’t selling, she’s buying. And the price of admission will only cost your soul. If your church claims to be Christian and wants you to become involved with “uniting with Rome”, put on your track shoes and run away as far and as fast as you can go. Revelation 17 and 18 foretells the fate of the Roman Whore, and the whole mess gets burned to the ground as the entire world watches.

“And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” Revelation 17:5,6 (KJV)


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  • goastdale

    .2Thess 2:10..because they received not THE LOVE of the truth, that they might be saved. 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    123’s of true Christianity v popular & damnable heresies

    #1 “ONE” not triune: ……PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF the same “being”! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (they are text book examples of prov 26:12)
    Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT

    PART 6: THE ANTI CHRIST….WHERE? WHERE?….EVERYWHERE!!! …..IT”S YOU O TRINITARIAN!
    “WHO” it was (what person) that came “IN THE FLESH”, IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! Even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they all deny “WHO” it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!…….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!
    JOHN 14: 8-20 ….Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
    Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter). The spirit was standing next to them in flesh… ….latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given)…..that is why. he would send the spirit…… However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”
    The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural).Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense
    TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…No, Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4
    - Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5;
    …… should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image!
    You can download the complete FREE book from
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy
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    http://www.globethics.net/gtl/10920799 THE TRINITY HERESY

    #2 SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast
    till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And
    they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.
    2Thess 2: 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    DOWNLOAD FREE THE ENTIRE 480PG BOOK AT SEVERAL LOCATIONS
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom
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    or
    https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM
    #3 There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups :
    (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD
    (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,
    (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
    will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”
    Predestination….its true..its all true…download here
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/306868420/Most-True-Christians-Go-to-Hell
    http://www.globethics.net/gtl/10920800 Most true Christians go to hell
    https://www.academia.edu/25217564/Most_True_Christains_Go_to_Hell

  • CTrent33

    Ecumenism is the doctrine of masonic jews. Ecumenism is anti-catholic, and therefore, a grave sin. It puts the One True Faith on the level of all the false religions. “Francis” is a jew installed antipope. “Francis” has no intention of converting souls to Catholicism and wouldn’t know Catholicism if it smacked him in the face.

    ““Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.” 1 John 2:18-20 (KJV)”

    Yes, all these false “Christian” religions are antichrists. They went out from the One True Church, the Catholic Church. They abandoned Christ and His Holy Bride. We live in an age of apostasy.

    ““And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” Revelation 17:5,6 (KJV)”

    This is the false religion spawned by invader jews at the second vatican council. Most “Catholics” today follow this falsehood. Real Catholics are a remnant, God’s elect.

    • Firmament Does Exist

      “Real Catholics” follow the dogma of man made religion. “The Way” celebrated Passover not Ishtar sun day. “The Way” followed YHWH’s calendar not Rome’s. Rome instituted “sun day” worship in place of YHWH’s Sabbath. Rome replaced the Hebrew Messiahs name YAHUWshua with “iesus h.christos”. Very far from the “true remnant”.

      • CTrent33

        “Rome instituted “sun day” worship in place of YHWH’s Sabbath.”

        Wrong:

        Acts 20:7 “AND ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, when we were assembled to break bread, Paul discoursed with them, being to depart on the morrow: and he continued his speech until midnight.”

        Sabbath is over:

        Hebrews 8:13 “Now in saying a new, he hath made the former old. And that which decayeth and groweth old, is near its end.”

        Colossians 2:16-17 “Let no man therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or in respect of a festival day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbaths, Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.”

        • BEEF SUPREME

          “…Acts 20:7 “AND ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, when we were assembled to break bread…”

          That verse is translated erroneously on purpose.

          It reads plainly in Greek: ONE OF THE SABBATHS…

          The Greek word SABBATONE (σαββάτων) is even PLURAL. Yet, for the convenience of both Catholic and Protestant doctrine, all forms of the word SABBATON, whether singular or plural, are translated as WEEK (singular) in the verses which describe gathering on this day, or arriving at an empty tomb, in both the Gospels and the Book of Acts.

          FACT: According to ALL the rules of Greek grammar, μιᾷ τῶν σαββάτων (mia tone sabbatone) is to be translated into English only one way:

          ONE (not first) OF THE SABBATHS (plural)

          In order to translate μιᾷ τῶν σαββάτων as ‘first day of the week’ a person must completely disregard ALL of the rules of simple linguistics including the rules of singular and plural construction which are ignored NOWHERE ELSE in the entire Bible.

          Sunday worship didn’t come along until hundreds of years after the Son of Man walked in the land. And it most certainly does not exist anywhere in the original Greek Manuscripts.

          These facts do not admit of dispute.

          • CTrent33

            :roll:

          • CTrent33

            If reading the bible is the only way to salvation(the popular protestant belief) then, according to you, God requires ALL to know ancient Greek and get there hands on manuscript(s?) that are in short supply. How nice for you since it looks like you’re the only one going to Heaven. :lol: This is utter stupidity and the translation is correct.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            Hardly.

            No one has to learn Greek to learn how to follow God’s instructions.

            HE SAYS do something.

            MAN SAYS do something different.

            When that happens, we have a problem, and we are remiss in our duties if we don’t get to the bottom of it.

            There are very simple answers to all of your objections, Trent.

            As there always are.

            You’re deflecting.

            As usual.

          • CTrent33

            But according to you His TRUE, ENTIRE instructions are in ancient Greek. Im not deflecting, I’m stating common sense. You’re deflecting. One cannot follow the instructions if one cannot read the language. Plus, one would have to get a hold of this super secret manuscript too.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            “But according to you His TRUE, ENTIRE instructions are in ancient Greek.”

            That’s right. And they’re also in English, translated by men, so we can be assured there will be trouble where TRADITION meets TRUTH. The Word would be translated completely, were it not for false doctrines seeping in at the hands of ‘lying scribes’. Christ excoriated the lying scribes many times in the Gospels, so we are prudent to be on the lookout for modern day lying scribes. We find them easily, Trent. And we can compensate for their errors, easily.

            No one has to become fluent in the ancient languages in order to do the things we’re discussing. God has made it easy for ANY of us to explore the evidence, all of the evidence, without ever having to leave our homes. We are therefore WITHOUT excuse.

            “You’re deflecting. One cannot follow the instructions if one cannot read the language.”

            That is out-and-out false, Trent. And you know it. There are DOZENS of websites and DOZENS of free software programs we can access in order to examine the Manuscript evidence, whether or not we are versed in the ancient languages. As well you know.

            “Plus, one would have to get a hold of this super secret manuscript too.”

            Not one, Trent. ALL of them say the SAME thing. The problem is with the translators and their traditions.

            Pretending this is too much for you to handle will avail you nothing. The obstacles have all been brought down to the ground. All you or anyone else needs to do in these days is to step right over them.

            Without excuse, Trent.

          • CTrent33

            Ahh, so your super secret manuscript is on some website made by MAN. No doubt one of the “lying scribes” you speak of. Tell me, what makes this man/men trustworthy above the Bishops of God, tasked with taking care of the Church?

            1 Timothy 3: 1-5 “A faithful saying: if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. It behoveth therefore a bishop to be blameless, the husband of one wife, sober, prudent, of good behaviour, chaste, given to hospitality, a teacher, Not given to wine, no striker, but modest, not quarrelsome, not covetous, but One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all chastity. But if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?”

            But I guess that passage was mistranslated as well. Sigh, if I only read ancient Greek…. :lol:

            “God has made it easy for ANY of us to explore the evidence, all of the evidence, without ever having to leave our homes.” “There are DOZENS of websites and DOZENS of free software programs”

            You do realize the internet, as we know it today, was made in 1990. It wasn’t around for nearly 2000 years. So, how did people read the entire truth, in ancient Greek, 300 years ago? 100 years ago? 50 years ago? The lying scribes hadn’t made your favorite website yet.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            “…your super secret manuscript is on some website made by MAN.”

            You’re being obtuse, Trent. And you’re doing it intentionally. That is no way to demonstrate the superiority of your side of any argument. ALL of the Greek Manuscripts and Papyri have been digitized and made available to everyone inclined to explore them. We have access to HD-quality images of the documents, as well as transcripts (yes, Trent, verbatim transcripts which we may vet at any time we choose, without getting up from our chairs). Anyone may access this material at any time with almost zero effort. Are you getting the idea yet, or does playing obstinate sound like more fun to you?

            “Tell me, what makes this man/men trustworthy above the Bishops of God, tasked with taking care of the Church?”

            We’re talking about the WORD of God. In the original language. That brooks no comparison with any man of any station.

            “But I guess that passage was mistranslated as well. Sigh, if I only read ancient Greek.”

            There actually aren’t that many problematic verse translations. There’s the Sabbath issue and the inexcusable games (read lies) played with those verses; then there is the execrable doctrine of eternal punishment, which ONLY exists in translation; and there is the doctrine of the Trinity, which finds its strongest support in two verses which are provably altered. (Now, when I say provably, I mean opinions don’t factor into the equation. Demonstrable and verifiable facts only.)

            “You do realize the internet, as we know it today, was made in 1990. It wasn’t around for nearly 2000 years.”

            Therefore, our generation will be under the stricter judgment on account of MYRIAD BLESSINGS we’ve been handed by God which earlier generations were not given.

            “So, how did people read the entire truth, in ancient Greek, 300 years ago?”

            Will those who had little or no access to the FACTS be penalized for their ignorance of those facts? No, Trent. They won’t be. Guess who will be. We, of whom it is written, run to and fro near the time of the end as knowledge will be INCREASED. Knowledge will be increased, friend. The internet is a fulfilling of prophecy.

            You are making excuses. And if there is ONE THING I know about God, it is that He does not much care for excuses.

    • Firmament Does Exist

      ChazUW YAHUW ( Revelation through YAHUW ) 17: 5,6
      5 And on her forehead a name was written, “VEILED BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND THE EVILS OF THE EARTH.”
      6 I saw the woman drunken with the blood of The Covenant-Family and with the blood of the martyrs of YAHUWAH. When I saw her, I wondered with great amazement that man would follow her.
      The Kingdom of YAH, The Original Scriptures

    • The Clucker

      ““Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.” 1 John 2:18-20 (KJV)”

      “Yes, all these false “Christian” religions are antichrists. They went out from the One True Church, the Catholic Church. They abandoned Christ and His Holy Bride. We live in an age of apostasy.”

      Where in the Scripture does it mention that the verse you quoted is referring to Catholics? Do you just have a hunch or is there something else in the Scriptures to substantiate your claim that you chose not to provide?

      • CTrent33

        Oriental Orthodox – went out from the Catholic Church in 451

        Eastern Orthodox – went out from the Catholic Church in 1054

        Lutherans – went out from the Catholic Church in 1517

        Reformed church – went out from the Catholic Church 1522

        Anglicans – went out from the Catholic Church in 1534

        etc, etc, etc.

        Catholicism is THEE FIRST and only Christian religion, established by Christ Himself (in the Bible, no matter how much you and others deny.) So, being the only Christian religion, and St. John being one of the first Bishops in that religion, he is obviously talking about said religion.

        “See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is administered either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude of the people also be; even as WHEREVER JESUS CHRIST IS, THERE IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.” —St. Ignatius of Antioch (35 to 107 A.D.), letter to the Smyrnaeans, Ch 8

        • Truthseeker

          trent

          those are the “daughters” that are about to return to the Mother church.

          The whole world will worship at Rome soon.

          And Rome will once more put to death the Saints of God.

          • CTrent33

            The vatican doesn’t even hold the Faith anymore. They will unite/are uniting under yet more false doctrine, not Catholicism.

          • Truthseeker

            trent all of Catholicism is false doctrine, from the day they began to kill the Saints of God and begin to change the doctrine –all of it – until today — it is all false.

            You make excuses by saying “they” and the “they” are just more of the same evil men as from the beginning.

            Trent Jesus Christ and the apostles are not and never were catholic, they did not one single thing you catholics do or teach –ever,

          • CTrent33

            Catholic doctrine is Scripture and Apostolic Tradition. It’s false doctrine to protestants, but not in reality.

            2 Thessalonians 2:14 “Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.”

            “Trent Jesus Christ and the apostles are not and never were catholic, they did not one single thing you catholics do or teach –ever,”

            The Mass done by Jesus – Mathew 26 : 26-28 “And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke: and gave to his disciples, and said: Take ye, and eat. This is my body. And taking the chalice, he gave thanks, and gave to them, saying: Drink ye all of this. For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins.”

            Confirmation done by St. Paul the Apostle – Acts 19:6 “And when Paul had imposed his hands on them, the Holy Ghost came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied.”

            The whole Bible is Catholicism and is taught by the Church. The Catholic Church in the modern age is very very small and you would have to search to hear Her.

  • Jango

    Kenneth Copeland is one of the richest evangelists in the world with a net worth of almost a billion dollars which is almost a billion times more than Jesus had, but Jesus accomplished a billion times more than this guy ever did.

  • jknbt

    A careful reading of Rev 17-18 shows that the catholic church (all catholics, especially the Romans) are the harlot church, which in the middle east is riding on the back of the beast (Islam). This is not the true church, which is revealed in Rev 19. Catholics have never repented in the first place of serving other gods, namely the goddess Mary and all saints, and of idolatry. The “Mary” catholics worship is Ishtar, the Ashteroth, Tiamat, Athena, Diana, Hera, Isis, and the other mother goddesses simply by another name. When Constantine legalized Christianity, and after Theodosius proclaimed Mary as Theotokos, catholics could be seen stealing the idols of the preferred local mother goddess out of the pagan temples, taking them to the local Christian church, and repainting them with blue robes and the name “Mary, God Maker” on the base.

    Any use of statues, idols, icons, images, etc. as a worship practice is idolatry. The final, ultimate, and only authority on all matters of belief and practice is the Word of God. God’s Word does not and has not changed. The Bible plainly speaks against such practices. These sins are in the same list that teaches that murder is wrong. These sins are just as bad a cold-blooded murder. Because catholics routinely sin against the 10 commandments according to the permissions given by church tradition, (which they elevate to the same worthiness as the Word), catholics who do these things have never entered the Kingdom of God & Heaven in the first place. You do not get in God’s front door if you have never repented. Catholics routinely go to hell, and do not even repent there, since they were expecting to go to purgatory anyway. There is no doctrine of purgatory in the Word either.

    Can’t you people ever figure out and get a grip on the fact that your church has lied to you? Be zealous therefore, and REPENT!

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