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Rolf Harris – Beyond Reasonable Doubt?

Posted on July 3, 2014 by admin

Rolf Harris has been convicted and for many that is conclusive proof of his guilt. However, we should not forget that the British justice system is not perfect, it can make errors, as these high profile miscarriages of justice show.

I do not know if Rolf Harris committed the crimes he was accused of. However, I find the fact that he was convicted, based on the evidence reported by the BBC, alarming.

Let me explain why:

COUNT ONE – VERDICT: GUILTY

“The woman said she was aged seven or eight when she queued to get an autograph from Harris at a community centre in Hampshire in 1968 or 1969. When she reached the front of the queue, Harris had touched her inappropriately with his “big hairy hands”, she told the jury.

The court heard that no evidence could be found that Mr Harris had been at the community centre. He also showed his hands to the jury and denied they were hairy.”

When they say that no evidence could be found that Mr Harris had been at the community centre, they don’t mean a cursory glance turned nothing up. They searched local newspaper archives between January 1967 and May 1974, council records and even conducted letter drops appealing for witnesses. Nothing, not a single piece of independent evidence that he was ever there!

It is hard to see how the uncorroborated recollection of an event alleged to have happened 45 years ago, when the witness was eight, can constitute proof beyond reasonable doubt.

Consider for a moment, what you can accurately remember from when you were eight? I am not as old as the witness but I can’t remember the name of my best friend, my teacher, my birthday party, frankly anything. I have a childhood scar, it must have been caused by a significant trauma. I remember it hurt and bled a lot, but I can’t remember how it happened, let alone where, when or who was with me at the time.

Even if the victim is sincere in believing her own recollection of events, she may simply be mistaken. Memory is not a flawless recording device. It is very common for people to believe they remember things that can be proven to have never happened. If you find that hard to believe there is a very good TED Talk dealing with it and

another .

As a principle of justice it seems absurd that anyone can be convicted simply on the unsupported “evidence” of someone else accusing them of a crime.

Only a few days ago a trainee barrister was convicted of falsely accusing a former boyfriend of rape. Here is another recent case and another. People make false allegations, for many different reasons; to take revenge on a former partner or in some cases for financial gain. In this case the “victim” made $1.5 Million before admitting years later that she made the whole thing up.

Making a claim against a celebrity is a heads I win, tails I don’t lose proposition for any opportunist!

If the accuser is believed they make a huge financial windfall. If not, they still ruin their target’s reputation (no smoke without fire) and they almost certainly won’t be charged with making a false claim.

Nobody charged the false accusers of celebrities such as Bill Roache, or Dave Lee Travis or Jimmy Tarbuck or Jim Davidson or Michael Le Vell or the footballers Nile Ranger, Christian Montano, Ellis Harrison, Loic Remy or another 11 innocent footballers here.

No one who wasn’t there can be sure what Rolf Harris did or didn’t do in this case, but I know that there is an £11m incentive for people to make up accusations and without any corroborating evidence there has to be a reasonable doubt in favour of the accused.

COUNT TWO – VERDICT: GUILTY

Another woman said she had been working as a waitress, at the age of 13 or 14, at a charity event in Cambridge in 1975 when Harris had put his arm around her shoulder.

“To start, it was a very nervous but a good feeling,” she said. “However his hand then moved and his hand went up and down my back and his hand went over my bottom and it was very firm.”

Again all we have is uncorroborated allegations.

I know that Rolf Harris said that he had never been to Cambridge and that this was shown to be a false statement, for many this was the silver bullet that proved his guilt. But, failures of memory are not proof of indecent assault!

Remember, Rolf Harris is 84 years old and has been in show business for 60+years. He has been all over the country for various events and it is not at all unreasonable for an 84 year old man to forget having been somewhere 40 years previously.

Indeed Crime Watch presenter Sue Cook admitted she had forgotten being in the same show

If you think it through it would make no sense for Rolf Harris to deliberately lie about this.
He was not on trial for being in Cambridge and being there is not the same as committing the offence. If he knew he had been in Cambridge he would presumably know it was for a television show. In the internet age there had to be a chance it would come to light and undermine his credibility as a witness. Why take the chance? If he didn’t believe totally that he had never been to Cambridge why not simply say, “I don’t remember being in Cambridge at that time, I travelled around a lot”

Then there is the seldom mentioned fact that the show actually took place in 1978, three years after the alleged indecent assault incident.

This would make the alleged victim 16 or 17 not the child of 13 claimed. If the accuser cannot remember whether she was a child of 13 or a teenager of 17, can we really ruin a man solely on the strength of her memory?

She also got the location wrong:

The alleged victim had suggested the event had taken place on Parker’s Piece, a large green in the centre of Cambridge.”

The show was actually filmed on Jesus Green a much larger, wooded park about a 6 minute drive north.

So the accuser couldn’t remember when it happened (or how old she was), she couldn’t remember where it happened and yet the jury found her 36 year old memory of the indecent assault to be evidence beyond a reasonable doubt!

When we talk about the indecent assault we are not talking about something so traumatic, like rape, that it would understandably be burned into her memory. We are talking about a 17 year old having her bottom touched in the 1970′s, a time where bottom pinching was considered mainstream enough for popular TV shows such as Are You Being Served and on billboards for respectable brands such as Fiat .

Again, nobody who wasn’t there can be sure what Rolf Harris did or didn’t do in this case, but I know that there is an £11m incentive for people to make up accusations and

without any corroborating evidence there has to be a reasonable doubt in favour of the accused.

I will come back to counts 3-9, but first lets deal with:

COUNTS 10 TO 12 – VERDICTS: GUILTY

Tonya Lee was a 15-year-old on a theatre trip from Australia to the UK when, she said, the entertainer fondled her.

Ms Lee has waived the right to anonymity granted to alleged victims of sexual offences. The three charges relate to one day in May 1986.

She said he asked her to sit on his lap before moving his hand up her leg and assaulting her.

“He was moving back and forth rubbing against me,” she said. “It was very subtle, it wasn’t big movements.”

The jury heard that Harris had then patted her on the thigh and moved his hand upwards. She said she had “started to panic” and rushed to the toilet.

When she came out, she said, Harris was waiting for her and gave her “a big bear hug” before putting his hand down her top and then down her skirt.

Harris denied ever meeting Ms Lee.

It was also revealed that she had sold her story for £33,000 to an Australian TV station and a magazine. She said accepting the money had been a “huge mistake”.

Here we have the uncorroborated accusation of a woman who has already cashed in, to the tune of £33,000!

She also claimed in her evidence that the sexual assault caused her to lose six kilos in weight during the six week theatre tour. It was then proven in court that the alleged incident could only have taken place in the final week of the tour!

As the defence QC pointed out:

“Are you really saying between this alleged incident on May 30 and six days later that you lost all that weight….in six days? You have blamed the loss of weight and inability to eat upon Rolf Harris.”

At best it appears that the witness has a confused recollection of events, not surprising after 28 years, at worst she was simply lying for financial gain.

Again,

we don’t know what Rolf Harris did or didn’t do in this case, but I know that there is an £11m incentive for people to make up accusations and without any corroborating evidence there has to be a reasonable doubt in favour of the accused.

The remaining allegations concern the childhood friend of Rolf Harris’ daughter Bindi.

COUNTS THREE TO NINE – VERDICTS: GUILTY

Seven of the 12 charges related to a childhood friend of Harris’s daughter Bindi. Six charges related to alleged abuse when she was aged between 13 and 15, and the seventh to when she was 19.

The court heard that the abuse began when she had been on holiday with the Harris family at the age of 13. Later, the woman said Harris had performed a sex act on her at the Harris family home, with Bindi asleep in the same room.

Further assaults took place at the Harris home and in her bedroom at her own home while her parents were downstairs, she said.

The convicted celebrity admitted having a sexual relationship with the woman – but stressed that it had been consensual and had begun after she had turned 18.

However, the relationship had “ended in a very acrimonious way,” he said.

The court was shown a letter Harris sent to the woman’s father in 1997, after the end of the relationship.

The letter said: “I fondly imagined that everything that had taken place had progressed from a feeling of love and friendship – there was no rape, no physical forcing, brutality or beating that took place.”

Here we do have actual evidence, of sexual activity between an older man and a much younger woman.

Rolf Harris admits to having a sexual relationship with her when she was 18 years old. She is now 49, so at the time Rolf Harris would have been 53, an age gap of 35 years.

To many of us such a large age gap seems unnatural, but it is certainly not unusual for famous older men to have relationships with younger women: 73 year old Patrick Stewart Recently married Sunny Ozell, 38 years his junior Michael Douglas is 25 years older than Katherine Zeta Jones. James Woods has a girlfriend 46 years his junior, Alec Baldwin’s wife is 26 years younger, Doug Hutchinson is breaking up with his wife who is 34 years younger, Woody Allen’s wife is 35 years younger than him, Dick Van Dyke’s wife is 46 years younger and the biggest age gap I could find was Hugh Heffner whose wife is 60 years his junior.

The fact that large age gap relationships make most of us uncomfortable, does not make them a crime, or evidence of sexual abuse. Some women find famous, rich or powerful men sexually attractive regardless of their age and almost all men find at least some 18 year old women sexually attractive!

The letter evidence proves a sexual relationship that we may disapprove of, however, it is not evidence of criminal activity.

If the alleged abuse started when she was 13 it was in 1978. They had, by all accounts, a consensual relationship from when she was 18 in 1983 until it was ended in 1997 when she was 32.

They had an adult sexual relationship for at least 14 years, whatever trauma she alleges she had suffered, she had clearly forgiven him. Or could it be that there never was any abuse? At the age of 30 or 31 she was clearly an adult, so why stay in a sexual relationship with a former abuser?

The relationship ended acrimoniously, so she certainly had a motive to turn vindictive.

In addition, Harris told police in 2012 that Bindi’s friend had threatened to expose his affair in the tabloid press in the Nineties and had demanded £25,000 for an animal sanctuary. Harris refused.

“The court has previously heard that she was an alcoholic by the time she was in her late 20s

There is, considerable scientific evidence that alcohol abuse is linked to confabulation (also called honest lying) where people make things up and honestly believe them

The standard of guilt in a criminal trial is supposed to be, beyond a reasonable doubt. Without any corroborating evidence of under-age on non-consensual sexual activity can it really be beyond doubt that this could simply be a vindictive attack by an ex-partner, or a confabulated tale from a confessed alcoholic, or an attempt to gain financial advantage ?

Some will doubtless say that even if individually these are not compelling, when taken as a whole they paint a picture of an abuser. This is a very dangerous conclusion, lots of nonsense is still nonsense:

Many people have claimed to be abducted by aliens. Individually their accounts are not compelling, but (even though there are lots of them) taking them together they still don’t paint a picture of extra-terrestrial attack!

The media, in its orgy of “Savilization”, has been encouraging people to come forward. The press is also awash with stories of compensation for “victims”, if any social climate was perfect for false accusers to try their luck, this would be it.

I really don’t know (and nor do you!) whether Rolf Harris is an evil paedophile monster or an 84 year old national treasure who has been ruined by greedy/malicious opportunists.

I do know that if all it takes to send a man to prison and ruin his life is an uncorroborated accusation from 45 years ago, then no man is safe under British justice.

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    • eyes wide shut

      So he admits having sex while she was sixteen ,oh how convenient, why try and protect this sicko who used fame as a form of blackmail to abuse like so many other of his friends, glad to see that these vile creatures are being exposed and I hope it encourages more people abused to come forward and bring these monsters down

    • eyes wide shut

      I suppose o.j Simpson wasn’t guilty too aye

    • susanna

      rolf harris is innocent, the only thing he is guilty of is having 2 extra marital affairs in secret, men and women have been having affairs in secret since time began, as for the porn on his computer oh please do me a favour, even my son has watched porn on his computer and lots of men and women download porn and enjoy it, and i can tell you with out any hesitation that if the police would of found very young child porn you can bet your life on it that mr harris would and i repeat would of been charged regardless of the other charges he was facing, this is the press doing a hatchet job, pete townsend comes to mind when he was pulled in by the police for down loading CHILD porn and making images of CHILDREN, how on earth a jury can convict on this evidence is disgusting and i fear for all men out there ever getting a fair trial, this is so so wrong, i hope his barrister appeals this conviction even if its based on the judges comments when the jury asked for his direction, which in my view is calls for an appeal, eyes wide shut you should open your eyes and read the above story it states mr harris admits a sexual relationship at 18 not 16 your ignorance just shows you have not read and inwardly digested the story above, as for oj simpson are you kidding me?

    • BlueDissident

      :roll:

    • not a scooby

      Of course the verdict was wrong,the idea that a famous man was on a publicity trip to portsmouth (the one place they riot over peadiatricians let alone peadophiles) and not one other person remembers being there,not even the council or newspapers would be laughable but for the consequences. There’s absolutely no corroborating evidence against the guy. He probably is dodgy but they really should have produced some proof before ruining him. :?:

    • james

      Question from the Jury Raises doubts.

      One of the questions the jury asked the Judge worries me a lot;

      “As opposed to using patterns within counts to help decide an outcome of one count surely it is non advisable to take evidence from one count in the future to judge the count in the here and now NB count 3-9 please clarify?”

      Could the count in the future be the knowledge that Rolf face a trial for child pornography at
      a later date?????????????

      The word “child pornography” is a RED FLAG for this jury. Even though it is not part of the charges it seems Rolf is being judged for this.

      But i understand the confusion of the jury. With terrible vision’s of what they thought was on
      rolf’s computer and the enormous media hype over Jimmy Saville and also the words of the judge “a brave verdict” they really had no choice except to follow the hype.

      That Rolf was unlucky enough that his defence lawyer became sick(mental?) and the jury
      spent a whole weekend with only the words of the prosecution in there heads most also have
      had a big influence on the jury. The replacement advocate seemed to me to give a very bad
      speech. Saying things like “some may think Rolf Harris has been punished enough”; which to
      me as a layman seems to be an admission of his guilt.

      .

      so in short a very bad defence team, bad judge because he should have made it very clear to
      the jury that they must not take into consideration Rolf’s future trial for child pornography. Plus
      purely circumstantial evidence from 4 woman in there 50′s, two of then alcoholics. one of whom was an ex-girlfriend who had tryed to extort money from Rolf.

      The whole thng stinks. The new allegations seem to be largely from adult woman who complain
      about inappropriate touching. No man is safe in this present climate! It is madness.

      UPDATE

      it seems that that the child porn was actually Adult Porn! Goal acheived! enough doubt in the minds of the jury to convict an innocent man. Well done boys. You must be so proud of yourselfs

    • Little Johnny

      Thank you for this article. I was beginning to wonder if there were any intelligent people left in the world. I’ve posted my rant below not that it’s necessary in light of this article. I do feel better though.

      I still quite literally cannot comprehend how someone gets convicted on the basis of verbal evidence dating back 30+ years given by persons who at the time were young and impressionable and whose memories could have been twisted in any number of ways. There simply cannot be any hard evidence in this case. (a man watching porn is not evidence, it’s character assassination) I find it even harder to believe when lawyers are involved and a large pot of gold is waiting for them. This entire case reminds me of a Bonfire of the vanities. i.e. it’s a crock. Why was nothing ever done or said years ago? People are simply to quick to believe anything especially when sexual offences are involved. Apparently the nature of the crime convicts you not the evidence. It’s all utter and complete nonsense. A jury finding you guilty doesn’t mean you are guilty. Just ask the thousands of men jailed for rape only to be released when DNA evidence proved it wasn’t them. Their lives were destroyed on basis of word of mouth testimony. A trial without hard evidence is merely a statistical exercise in probabilities. That’s not fact.

    • JaneL

      Thank goodness someone with common sense.
      People should share this article and spread the word.

      Rolf Harris is innocent of these crimes. The main charges involving the school friend, I find very hard to believe. If something traumatic had happened to me at age 13, I would not go back for more! Neither would I continue a relationship with my abuser until I was 32. The whole thing is utter nonsense.

      I wonder how many of these women would have come forward if there was no money in it
      Sadly the public are baying for blood and it would not surprise me if his prison sentence gets extended.
      No male celebrity is safe now.

    • Little Johnny

      Why doesn’t he appeal?? In the mean time get all his assets offshore asap. Funny how lawyers lose interest when there is no money involved! One interesting point about Bonfire of the Vanities and I didn’t know judges in the US could do this. The jury found the defendant guilty but the judge overruled the jury and entered a verdict of non guilty on the basis that the jury erred on a point of law. That point being quite simple. There was no real evidence! I know in the UK the judge could have thrown the case out just before it went to the jury on the grounds of lack of sufficient valid evidence. i.e. no case to answer. Clearly the Judge in this case needs to grow a pair. Guilty or not on a point of law this case scares me. It’s medieval in it’s lack of real evidence. Why didn’t they ask him to hold burning hot rocks instead?

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