The Council Has Spoken! Our Watcher's Council Results

The Council has spoken, the votes have been cast, and the results are in for this week’s Watcher’s Council match up.

““The way that I look at it, you take the two officers in New York. I was heart-broken because I knew for sure that these officers had nothing to do with the killing of Eric Garner. You can’t generally be anti-police, because if you become completely anti-police, then criminals are going to take over. When we see these killings, the general thought here is that two wrongs don’t make a right.” – Former gang leader Arthur Reed, AKA ‘Silky Slim’

“… Black Lives Matter never protests when every 14 hours somebody is killed in Chicago, probably 70-80% of the time (by) a black person. Where are they then? Where are they when a young black child is killed?” – Rudy Giuliani

“Kill the Pigs! Fry ‘em like bacon!” - Popular #blacklives matter chant.

This weeks’ winning essay is Stately McDanial Manor’s Dallas: An Explosive Use Of Police Force. In it, he examines the legal and practical issues that come to bear when deadly force is used by police with a professional’s eye as a former policemen, what determinations a policeman has to make in seconds in order todo his or her job and how these standaqrds apply when it comes to personal self defense. Here’s a slice of this well written, informative post:

Police use of force is very much in the news these days. On one hand, Social Justice warriors and Democrat politicians (yes; I know I repeat myself) argue that virtually any use of force against favored victim groups–these days, primarily young black males–is not only illegitimate, but inherently racist and criminal. On the other, most people haven’t a clue about the legal issues revolving around the use of deadly force.

The social justice cry is particularly loud when the criminal was not carrying a gun. In such cases, the Michael Brown case being an obvious contemporary example, the cry “unarmed black man” reverberates throughout the media and blogosphere as though those three words say all that need be said, and unquestionably prove any and everything Black Lives Matter cracktivists assert.
In reality, a criminal relying only on his hands and feet can present a deadly threat, a threat justifying an entirely lawful lethal response, whether done by any member of the public or a police officer. This was exactly the case with Michael Brown. It was also the case with Trayvon Martin. Both are continually cited as unarmed, black, holy social justice martyrs, despite the fact that both criminals died while under the influence of drugs, in the act of trying to kill others–classic cases of self-defense–and no police officers were involved in Martin’s death.

Those wishing to explore the “unarmed” issue in more depth might visit an August, 2015 article: Police Shoot Unarmed Man.

One contemporary case of great significance is the ambush murders of Dallas police officers. Everything about that case effectively refutes the arguments of the social justice crowd. The black killer was very well armed and trained, and was absolutely a racist. We know because during brief negotiations, he expressly said he wanted to kill white police officers, and intended to kill as many as he could.

Even so, some are crying excessive use of police force because the Dallas Police used explosives–reportedly C4, a military grade plastic explosive–delivered by a remote-controlled robot, to actually blow the shooter to bits. And after all, he was black, so the police must be racist somehow. Paul Mirengoff at Powerline reports:

When the Dallas police finally took out Micah Johnson, they used a robot with a bomb — a device that can be compared to a drone. I considered this great police work but, remarkably, killing Johnson in this way proved to be controversial.

Some apparently believed that the officers engaged in the standoff with Johnson, and who had tried unsuccessfully to persuade him to surrender, needed to come close enough to Johnson (who had already killed multiple officers) to be shot at before they would be justified in killing him. As it was, said one law professor, only the robot was in danger.

This kind of commentary proves primarily one thing: even the overwhelming majority of lawyers have no understanding of deadly force law.

When cop killers are willing to die in order to take out police officers in gun battles, we are in uncharted territory. Police departments need to find ways to fight back without accommodating the killers’ desire for a fire fight.

Actually, Mirengoff is partially incorrect. We are not in uncharted territory, as I’ll explain, but first, two important preliminary issues: anyone interested in this topic, or who carries a concealed weapon, must have Andrew Branca’s The Law of Self Defense, an indispensable book. Branca and I often cover national cases such as the Martin case, and currently, the prosecution of the Baltimore officers, he at Legal Insurrection.  Also, we must have an understanding of the issues–triggers, if you will–relating to the use of force, and particularly deadly force.

Each state has its own very specific laws on these issues, and it’s an individual duty to be familiar with those laws. When force has been used, particularly deadly force, those laws will be applied to determine whether that defense was lawful self-defense–justifiable homicide–or some degree of murder.

More at the link.

In our non-Council category, the winner was Sultan Knish with Exploiting Dead Cops to Promote Their Killers submitted by The Daley Gator.

This one’s very much in line with the meme of this week’s Council category. Do read it.

Here are this week’s full results:

Council Winners

• *First place with 2 votes!-Stately McDaniel Manor – Dallas: An Explosive Use Of Police Force
• Second place *t* with 1 2/3 votes –Puma By Design – Backstabbing Sanders Supporters, Hillary Hires Debbie Wasserman Schultz as Campaign Chair.
• Second place *t* with 1 2/3 votes –Bookworm Room – Dear Elites — no, Trump is not a fascist, but Hillary probably is
• Third place with 1 1/3 votes –GrEaT sAtAn”S gIrLfRiEnD – Nuclear Ottomans?
• Fourth place with 1 vote –VA Right! – Understanding Presidential Polls For Dummies
• Fifth place with 2/3 vote –The Glittering Eye -Why, Oh Why?
• Sixth place *t* with 1/3 vote –The Razor – Social Media: Why I Quit It
• Sixth place *t* with 1/3 vote – Joshuapundit-Dumb Debbie, The DNC And The Wrath Of The Bernistas

Non-Council Winners

• First place with 2 votes!–Sultan Knish -Exploiting Dead Cops to Promote Their Killers submitted by The Daley Gator
• Second place *t* with 1 2/3 votes –Heather MacDonald/ City Journal –Trump Is Right about Crime submitted by Stately McDaniel Manor
• Second place *t* with 1 2/3 votes – David Solway/PJ Media – How to Defeat Terrorism submitted by The Watcher
• Third place with 1 1/3 votes – Oren Cass/City Journal-Hillary’s Web Of Promises submitted by Bookworm Room
• Fourth place *t* with 2/3 votes -War On The Rocks – Germany Takes A Steely Look At The World submitted by GrEaT sAtAn”S gIrLfRiEnD
• Fourth place *t* with 2/3 votes -Sean Trende/real Clear Politics – Where the Race Stands — Post-RNC Edition submitted by The Glittering Eye
• Fourth place *t* with 2/3 votes -Kristen McQueary/Chicago Tribune – The truth of Donald Trump’s message: Black lives do matter submitted by The Watcher
• Seventh place with 1/3 vote -Richard Viguerie/Breitbart -Richard Viguerie: ‘Ted Cruz Committed Political Suicide on National TV’ submitted by The Watcher

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