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Hot Take: The Founding Fathers Wouldn’t Want Us To Follow The Document They Wrote, Because Guns

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Of course, we shouldn’t forget that there were only a handful of Founding Fathers who attended and were even involved in writing the Constitution, and that those who wrote the Constitution are referred to as the Framers. But, hey, facts are problematic for gun grabbers, and it’s really difficult to look up information, you know, at least for USA Today’s Jill Lawrence, who’s attempting to Make A Point

Would the Founders want our kids to die in school shootings like Santa Fe? I doubt it.

Amid all we know about the Founding Fathers, two things stand out in the wake of yet another mass shooting that underscores the desperate need for action and the depth of our paralysis.

The first is that nearly a third of the 39 delegates who signed the Constitution endured the tragedy of losing children. By one count, 24 sons and daughters born to a dozen signers died before adulthood. The second is that these and the other Founders were among the greatest change-makers in history. They were America’s first #Resist movement, and they fought an actual war to create a future unbound from the past.

Does anyone think they would expect us to live by a 230-year-old document? Would they stand by, reciting the centuries-old Second Amendment, if their own children were endangered — in school, at malls, in movie theaters, on city streets — by easy access to guns? Or would they start us on the road to universal background checks, mandatory waiting periods and other steps most Americans say they want?

Actually, yes, I do think the Framers would want us to live by that 230 year old document, and they also gave America the ability to change the Constitution, if they can get it done. But, if Jill is unhappy about it, she should drag out her quill pen and write to her Congressperson, sending the letter by horse. Or, maybe use the same type of manual printing presses available in the late 1700’s. Or perhaps we can start stationing troops at Jill’s house, having done away with the 3rd Amendment. The Framers thought that was pretty darned important to restrict government. And are those warrant thingies really necessary?

We abolished slavery long ago, militias have turned into the National Guard, and estimates suggest Americans own millions of AR-15s that are modeled on M-16s. It’s a world light years beyond the ken of the Founders.

As brilliant as they were, they’d be the first to say that they and their blueprint for America were imperfect — limited by their experiences, their era, their differences, the difficult compromises they had to make. They bequeathed us infinite complications, not because they wanted to but because they could not see the future and because they had to in order to get the job done.

In other words, ban guns, abolish the 2nd Amendment. Remember, they aren’t coming for your guns, they just want some common sense reforms.


Source: https://www.thepiratescove.us/2018/05/21/hot-take-the-founding-fathers-wouldnt-want-us-to-follow-the-document-they-wrote-because-guns/


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    • sarah

      What part of ‘Shall not be infringed’ in the 2nd Amendment don’t some people understand?

      There were no restrictions on the Founding Fathers, or the citizens of America rights to bear any arm they wanted to own, when the united states for America constitution was written.

      The way the Powers That Be take our rights and freedoms away from us is by chipping away at those rights a little at a time until we are slaves in THEIR prisoners chains.

      All sane and adult American citizens should be armed to protect selves and others from harm. Is that too simple for some people to understand?

      If people are afraid to protect their own lives it could validate the statement: Only the strong survive.

      Nature has a natural selection process that justifies the above statement. It causes the survival of the species.

      When a bunch of mentally, emotionally, or otherwise weak people attempt to run a society, the society faces a greater chance of being wiped out.

    • DISPENSER

      Sorry I couldn’t understand you. Al I got was leftist gibberish.

    • Acey76

      I usually keep to myself because everything you say will most definitely be used against you but dammit i hate reading this revisionist history crap. You are taking the view that it’s the governments job to protect you and that there is some outdated rule that’s preventing it.. Really?
      The founding fathers lived under a government that gave itself permission to kill their families and take children, beat and abuse it’s own citizens and tax them to poverty for the benefit of a few. When these men fought themselves clear of that regime and designed their own government they made sure that their descendants (BTW that’s us) had a way to protect ourselves from that ever happening again. The documents you talk about were written to protect people from the government not from other people. It’s only in our recent past that these documents are being touted as no longer relevant and a hindrance to the governments ability to protect the people. Those documents were NEVER meant for that. They are there so the people can protect themselves from the government. 2018 is why those documents were written. those documents do not allow you to have guns, they acknowledge that you have a right to protect yourself with or without a government involved. there is no way to adjust the law to make you more safe. any adjustment simply removes your ability to protect yourself. Our government does not protect us. It never said it would. It either causes chaos or shows up after the chaos has happened to tax the person who caused chaos without their permission. Very rarely (and a lot of times by accident) do police stop a crime before it happens. there is truth in there if your willing to take a step back from the edge and remember what life was like before the 17 year fear campaign :P

    • Acey76

      I usually keep to myself because everything you say will most definitely be used against you but dammit i hate reading this revisionist history crap. You are taking the view that it’s the governments job to protect you and that there is some outdated rule that’s preventing it.. Really?
      The founding fathers lived under a government that gave itself permission to kill their families and take their children, beat and abuse it’s own citizens and tax them to poverty for the benefit of a few. When these men fought themselves clear of that regime and designed their own government they made sure that their descendants (BTW that’s us) had a way to protect ourselves from that ever happening again. The documents you talk about were written to protect people from the government not from other people. It’s only in our recent past that these documents are being touted as no longer relevant and a hindrance to the governments ability to protect the people. Those documents were NEVER meant for that. They are there so the people can protect themselves from the government. 2018 is why those documents were written. those documents do not allow you to have guns, they acknowledge that you have a right to protect yourself with or without a government involved. there is no way to adjust the law to make you more safe. any adjustment simply removes your ability to protect yourself. Our government does not protect us. It never said it would. It either causes chaos or shows up after the chaos has happened to tax the person who caused chaos without their permission. Unless it’s drug related very rarely do police have enough information to stop a crime before it happens. You HAVE to be able to protect yourself until the cops do arrive, don’t you? there is truth in there if your willing to take a step back from the edge and remember what life was like before the 17 year fear campaign :P
      The beautiful thing about the bill of rights is that if you don’t want to exorcise your rights you don’t have to but when you need them they are there. The right to keep and bear arms is not for me. I was accidentally shot in the face when I was young. I don’t own, nor will I own a gun. Given the direction this current government is taking the country i’m worried that my grand kids may need that to defend themselves from “‘people who hate our freedoms” and unfortunately they will have to quietly whisper how people like you willingly gave up the rights of 370 million people because of the actions of a handful of disturbed kids and massive fear campaign.

    • Acey76

      I usually keep to myself because everything you say will most definitely be used against you but dammit i hate reading this revisionist history crap. You are taking the view that it’s the governments job to protect you and that there is some outdated rule that’s preventing it.. Really?
      The founding fathers lived under a government that gave itself permission to kill their families and take their children, beat and abuse it’s own citizens and tax them to poverty for the benefit of a few. When these men fought themselves clear of that regime and designed their own government they made sure that their descendants (BTW that’s us) had a way to protect ourselves from that ever happening again. The documents you talk about were written to protect people from the government not from other people. It’s only in our recent past that these documents are being touted as no longer relevant and a hindrance to the governments ability to protect the people. Those documents were NEVER meant for that. They are there so the people can protect themselves from the government. 2018 is why those documents were written. those documents do not allow you to have guns, they acknowledge that you have a right to protect yourself with or without a government involved. there is no way to adjust the law to make you more safe. any adjustment simply removes your ability to protect yourself. Our government does not protect us. It never said it would. It either causes chaos or shows up after the chaos has happened to tax the person who caused chaos without their permission. Unless it’s drug related very rarely do police have enough information to stop a crime before it happens. You HAVE to be able to protect yourself until the cops do arrive, don’t you? there is truth in there if your willing to take a step back from the edge and remember what life was like before the 17 year fear campaign :P
      The beautiful thing about the bill of rights is that if you don’t want to exorcise your rights you don’t have to but when you need them they are there. The right to keep and bear arms is not for me. I was accidentally shot in the face when I was young. I don’t own, nor will I own a gun. Given the direction this current government is taking the country i’m worried that my grand kids may need that to defend themselves from “‘people who hate our freedoms” and unfortunately they will have to quietly whisper how people like you willingly gave up the rights of 370 million people because of the actions of a handful of disturbed kids and massive fear campaign.

    • AlwaysOntheRight

      uhmm yeah that is why there are Amendments… the meaning is basically in that word

    • beLIEve

      The FOREFATHERS Were Masters of DECEPTION

      Builders of ONE NATION UNDER LUCIFER

      “THE OATH to LUCIFER :!:

      “I do most solemnly and sincerely promise and Sware, without the least equivocation, mental reservation, or self-evasion of mind in me whatever, binding myself under no less penalty than TO HAVE MY THROAT CUT ACROSS, MY TONGUE TORN OUT BY THE ROOT$ and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea at low watermark, where the tide ebbs and flow twice in twenty-four four; so help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.” [Captain Morgan, FREEMASON Exposed] THE OATH!

      When on September 18, 1793 George Washington the first president of the United States of America was a major player in the ceremony to lay the ground work for the construction of the Capitol in Washington D.C. Now when Mr. Washington showed up to participate in the ceremony he was not draped in the Christian white robe, no, he came dressed in his LUCIFERIAN MASONIC APRON, Part of the ceremony was for Mr. Washington to place a silver plate upon the cornerstone, on that place was made the masonic offering to Lucifer of corn, wine and oil. It would seem that if Mr. Washington was dedicating the country to the God of Heaven there would be the things of the God of Heaven present there, but all we see are things of Lucifer, this is indeed One Nation under Lucifer and not One Nation under Christ!

      As Wikipedia states; Washington were and is regarded as the father of this country and I think most would agree that he is. Washington was born into a wealthy family who built their Empire on the backs of slave labor, he and his family grew a deadly addictive dangerous product [tobacco] and peddled it off to the masses, the first red-flag that Mr. Washington may not have been building One Nation under the God of Heaven after all. I don’t understand how a king who claims to be building the House of the Lord would sell poison to his people; this poison is grown and processed on the backs of human forced slave labor, a brutal slavery! This is not a great start for one who’s building One Nation under Christ!

      The Masons and Their God

      There are 32 degrees of the Scottish rite, in this process the Mason is giving worship to the many gods of Egypt, the gods of India, Babylonian gods and Greek gods “all the contents of the Golden Cup” As the Mason comes upon the 17th degree he is given “secret password” that is supposed to give him entrance at the Judgment Day, of their Great Architect of the Universe, this password is “Abaddon.” Now in the Scottish rite there is no mention of Satan or Lucifer that would be really dumb, to expose themselves in this manner. But how can we separate Satan from Abaddon when scripture clearly explains to us just who this Abaddon truly is:
      “And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Abaddon the Hebrew tongue is but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.” [Rev 9:11] Abaddon means destroyer!

      So, the Masonic King, by their own admission is the chief demon of the bottomless pit [hell] the destroyer! Who does Abaddon answer too? His leader Satan, Lucifer or is this actually Lucifer himself. It all boils down to Satan worship any way you cut it! This is the abomination of the King Solomon Cult that was brought into the Temple of the Lord and is why Jesus called it the Synagogue of Satan. What else could it be called when it has clearly become the House of Satan, Lucifer? It is this god of hell that the Apostate Jews [ not all Jews] made the satanic deal with, in exchange for this great increase in knowledge, the knowledge to build the most powerful nation ever known to man that they would rule the world through, that he, Lucifer would mount the throne of King Solomon and place his star [the Star of Moloch] before the world as a witness to all that he, Lucifer now sits in the sides of the north, in the seat of God as God! The Pope of Rome could not match this offer!

      How could Mr. Washington build One Nation under Christ when the church he belongs to [Freemasonry] believes Jesus to be a false prophet, the worst of all false prophets? The church that Mr. Washington was a member of believes Jesus to be a bastard and his mother a whore, how could Mr. Washington build a nation to one that his church [King Solomon’s Temple] despises so much?

      Mr. Washington was initiated into Freemasonry in 1752; he was made Grand Master of the Virginia Chapter of Alexandria lodge No. 22 in 1788. Mr. Washington was given the highest honor by the Temple of Lucifer, made a ruler in King Solomon’s Temple, the temple that the Lord said had become a house of devils. From its origins, the USA has been in the hands of Lucifer and not Christ as most have been led to believe. There’s was no way America would ever lose a war to England or anyone other country, not in any way that would be detrimental to the existence of this country, this Great Eagle was foretold in bible prophecy.

      Above is the oath Mr. Washington had to swear too; to up hold with his very life this oath to Satan [Lucifer] is A BLOOD OATH. Nothing is more important in the life of the ruling class of Luciferians than the will of LUCIFER; THEY are DEDICATED to HIS CAUSE.

      http://www.blacklightoflucifer.com/the-forefathers-were-masters-of-deception

      * * *

      The Friendly Mask of the Orwellian Oligarchy Is Slipping Off
      The Mind Unleashed

      May 18, 2018

      It is always a good sign when people in power become concerned that their subjects are developing the wrong kinds of political opinions, because it means that truth is winning. All this gibberish we’ve been hearing about “Russian disinformation” and “Russian propaganda” is just a label that has been pinned on dissenting narratives by a mass media propaganda machine that has lost control of the narrative.

      And this is why it’s getting so overt, barely even attempting to conceal its true nature anymore. Our species’ newfound ability to network and share information has enabled a degree of free thinking that the cultural engineers did not anticipate and have not been able to stay ahead of, and they’re being forced to make more and more overt grabs to try and force us all back into our assigned brain boxes.

      But the oligarchs who rule us and their Orwellian power structure is already in a lose-lose situation, because the empire that they have built for themselves rests upon the illusion of freedom and democracy. The most powerful rulers of our world long ago eschewed the old model of sitting on thrones and executing dissidents in the town square, instead taking on a hidden role of influence behind the official elected governments and using mass media propaganda to manufacture the consent of the governed.

      This system is far more efficient than the old model because a populace will never rebel against rulers it doesn’t know exist, and it has enabled the western oligarchs to amass more power and influence than the kings of old ever dreamed possible. But it has a weakness: they have to control the narrative, and if they fail to do that they can’t switch to overt totalitarianism without shattering the illusion of freedom and provoking a massive public uprising.

      So the wealth-holding manipulators are stuck between a rock and a hard place now, trying to use new media outlets like Facebook, Twitter and Wikipedia to HERD THE UNWASHED MA$$E$ INTO THEIR PEN$. The more brazen they get with those manipulations, however, the more the mask slips off, and the greater the risk of the public realizing that they aren’t actually free from tyrannical rule and exploitation.

      The real currency of this world is not backed by gold, nor by oil, nor by bureaucratic fiat, nor even by direct military might. No, the real currency of this world is narrative, and the ability to control it. The difference between those who rule this world and those who don’t is that those who rule understand this distinction and are sufficiently sociopathic to exploit it for their own benefit.

      Power only exists where it exists because of the stories that humans agree to tell one another. The idea that government operates a certain way, that money operates a certain way, these things are purely conceptual constructs that are only as true as people pretend they are. Everyone could agree tomorrow that Donald Glover is the undisputed King of America and the new official US currency is old America Online trial CDs if they wanted to, and since that was the new dominant narrative it would be the reality. Everyone could also agree to create a new system which benefits all of humanity instead of a few sociopathic plutocrats. The only thing keeping money and government moving in a way that benefits our current rulers is the fact that those rulers have been successful in controlling the narrative.

      They’ll never get that cat back into the bag once it’s out, and they know it. We the people will be able to create our own narratives and write our own rules about how things like money and government ought to operate, and there is no way that will work out to the benefit of the ruling manipulators and deceivers. So they fight with increasing aggression to lull us back to sleep, often overextending themselves and behaving in a way that gives the public a glimpse behind the mask of this entire corrupt power structure. Someday soon that mask will slip right off and come crashing to the floor. That crash will wake the baby, and that baby will not go back to sleep.

      https://themindunleashed.com/2018/05/friendly-mask-orwellian-oligarchy-slipping-off.html

    • raburgeson

      Wrong the founding fathers understood that tyrants and corruption could become rampant. They intended the people to be able to protect themselves against Traitors and coups and other types of tyranny. To do that you have to be armed in a manner to deal with negative forces within the government. In other words they intend you be armed with arms as good as the government has.

    • raburgeson

      They did not intend you to face down tyrants with machine guns, while you have been reduced to pitch forks. They wrote the second amendment for you to protect your nation. Your rights have been infringed right along. You all have been held down to regulated small arms. You even have the right to own large arms. There are to be no infringing attachments to that right. In 1950 there were guns all over the place. The amount of war surplus was ridiculous. We did not have the problems we have today. There is something wrong with the government programming, the big pharma drugs, the propaganda. I blame a lot of this on the estrogen and estrogen mimicking chemicals in our bio system. In the old days men were men and you bent each others noses and that was the end of it. There was value to human life and we have to bring that back.

    • Anonymous

      Some people hate America and the Constitution.You are one of them. If you leftists try and take the guns I bet you will get the bullets first.

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