Do Reptilian Aliens Steal Our Consciousness & Use Our Bodies?

Interview with Timothy Beckley 

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1. Could you tell us about the concept behind your new book, Evil Empire Of The ETs and the Ultra-Terrestrials, and what writers are behind this gem as well?

Beckley – I guess it sort of continues with a thought pattern that started with the book Round Trip To Hell In A Flying Saucer in which I give evidence that the “force” behind the UFO phenomenon is mostly – but not exclusively – negative. That is that the New Age “bliss bunny” notion that every celestial visitor has our best interest at heart is horrendously naive.

In Trilogy Of The Unknown published about two months ago, we presented the work of a mysterious gentlemen, Michael X, who had started out lecturing at contactee festivals on the West Coast, preaching sermons of sweetness and light and the arrival of the Space Brotherhood, only to end his career when men representing themselves as friendly space beings tried to assassinate him in the California Desert outside of Palm Springs. This book gets into misplaced alien artifacts on the Moon and a warning by “Mr ET” to keep our distance and stay away – OR ELSE!. There are also sections on Nazi constructed flying discs and reptilians holding up underground at the North and South Poles. A pretty heavy UFOlogical work load I would say.

2. Please tell us the story of Karla Turner for those who might new to the field of Ufology to keep her light shining please.

Now with the Evil Empire of the ETs and Ultra-Terrestrials our team of trusted investigators which includes Brad and Sherry Steiger, the late Dr. Karla Turner, Tim R. Swartz and Sean Casteel throw the cosmic gauntlet down to remind readers that though some see the phenomenon through goo-goo eyes in terms of benevolent aliens the truth is that the force behind the mysterious flying objects is more like graduates of an Aryan charm school that has its basis in mutilations, abductions, painful medical exams, anal probes and extreme mind control patterns.

Beckley – For eleven years I was editor in chief of the now defunct newsstand publication UFO Universe . During the more than a decade I put together the magazine, I had the opportunity to work with some of the world’s greatest UFO and paranormal writers. I published a number of articles by Dr Turner whose work, I felt, was never appreciated enough by those in the UFO community who wanted to paint a sweetness and light image of the aliens seemingly for the public’s benefit.

A well educated, soft spoken, woman, Dr Turner’s life was turned around when she allowed her students to do a dissertation on either UFOs or Bigfoot in an attempt to show them there was no evidence for the existence of such “imaginary beings.” A series of “coincidental” proceedings in her life and that of family members, made her think twice as they were ultimately cast downward in a spiral of maddening UFO related events. This included confronting paranormal beings which we have come to identify as “aliens”, though their true origins remain a matter of dispute and perplexity. Evil Empire of the ETs and Ultra-Terrestrials, includes a adaptation of her UFOlogical diary which Dr Turner originally released under the title Into The Fringe. At the time of its initial release the manuscript was shunned by a field seeking less combative explanations of the UFO and alien phenomenon. In the Evil Empire her work is more or less collaborated by our team of authors. They agree that we should not conclude without a great deal of further investigations, that we are dealing with angelic, humanoid beings from outer space, that there is a lot more going on under our very noses that needs to be thoroughly sniffed out before we openly welcome these beings into our hearts and minds, because like a tiger they can easily turn on their masters and do serious damage to our bodies and our souls!

3. Who are the Ultra-Terrestrials and where did that term come from, what are their roots? And what is the Evil Empire?

Beckley – Well since we have no real evidence that these Ultra-Terrestrials are physical, flesh and tenderloin beings from other planets, I feel hard pressed to continue referring to them as aliens and ETs. They are really Ultra-Terrestrials in the sense that they exist outside of our own sphere of reference. They are certainly NOT part of the human race. They are definitely not physical in the sense that we are, but can best be categorized as phantasms of the night. They are capable of accomplishing feats that are way beyond the realm of “humanoid-like.”

According to Dr. Turner, there is evidence that the Ultra-Terrestrials can control what we think and see. They can appear to us in any number of guises and shapes. They can alter our perception of our surroundings. They can take over our consciousness, disable our control of our bodies, install one of their own entities, and use our bodies as vehicles for their own activities. I can confirm what she has stated and have offered up case studies in much of my writing in recent years. As far as I am concerned there isn’t much difference between what transpires at a séance, in a haunted house or on a lonely road at midnight. The visitors, these Ultra-Terrestrials have their own agenda, they often disguise their true purpose to throw percipients, as well as researchers off the track, giving them false hope but leaving them in utter despair following their encounters.

As for calling it the Evil Empire, I do sense there is a coalition among these entities as if they are working in tandem and are ultimately up to no good.

I think there may be more than one source for this phenomenon, but its probably out of our range as far as rationalizing in common phrases what it is we are dealing with. Its something that has been with us since the beginning of time and follows us around like a shadow, but continually shows us who the master is and that they have us in their grips and the human race under their control.

4. Could you tell us about some of the hybrid creatures seen in the underground facilities by abductees?

Beckley — I would surmise you are talking about what have been dubbed the “underground alien bases” situated around the country and the world, but particularly the one up in the mountains in Dulce, New Mexico on an Native America reservation. Supposedly there is an underground instillation there that goes down seven levels that is inhabited jointly by a super secret branch of the military and aliens of various shapes, forms, and disguises. There are the reptilians, the insectoids, the grays and probably a couple of tall blondes who could easily walk amongst us. To me these stories are hard to substantiate. We did publish a book Underground Alien Bio Lab at Dulce that contains everything you could possibly want to know about this instillation from the fire fight that is said to have taken place there between the military and renegade alien forces. There are several abductees interviewed who claim to have been examined by the Ultra-Terrestrials working in co operation with the elite Blue Berets squad in a joint effort to examine and “tag” humans. I don’t know if I swallow most of this. My long time friend Norio Hayakawa and other researchers have implied that there might actually be some illegal genocidal experiments being conducted on the Native Americans living out there, and they are covering it up with a disinformation program of aliens and underground bases. We do know that there are all sorts of animal mutilations, disappearances and black helicopters associated with this facility. My mind isn’t totally made up, but it is a frightening discourse no matter how you look at the situation and interrupt it.

As for Dr Turner, she emphatically believed there were underground alien bases and that some horrendous experimentation was taking place there proclaiming: “Abductees report seeing other humans in these facilities being drained of blood, being mutilated, flayed, and dismembered, and being stacked, lifeless, like cords of wood. Some abductees have been threatened that they, too, will end up in this condition if they don’t cooperate with their alien captors.” Sounds like something out of a snuff movie to me.

5. What do you mean by aliens can change our perceptions of our surroundings?

Beckley — There are so many reports now that I have collected over the years where the perceptions of those involved in a UFO encounter are altered beyond the imaginable. In both Round Trip To Hell and the Evil Empire I give various examples of this alteration of perception. Now most researchers these days will have to confess that instances of UFOs morphing, that is changing shape, are not that unusual, but the cases I describe go well beyond a little shape shifting. There is this one episode involving a couple traveling across country in a tractor trailer who at first observe a formation of lights in the sky which later turns into “individual things” that were described as shaped like “eight-inch people with V-shaped heads, and wings on their backs.” The couple say these beings shot “hot fine needlelike shavings like silver metal through the glass of the windshield,” and that when they later touched the pealing paint on the truck their fingers got blisters all over them.

They were quoted as saying, “The creatures were hostile and went into attack modes several times, putting up dense fogs. One time when they stopped, it was like a backwards tornado coming from the mouth of the leader of the ships. It was like a ray that he was sending down with the funnel. He did it five times, then it left.” Their experience went on all night. There are so many incidents in which the witnesses perceptions have been altered. One time a young woman went into a strange house sitting in a field near Woodstock only to find that the “house” wasn’t there when she returned to speak with the occupants who had befriended her. Another time, and this was reported in the prestigious APRO Bulletin, an entire family was driving through the mountains in Washington state only to have their auto run out of gas. They glided into the parking lot of a saucer shaped fast food restaurant, went inside and saw “waiters” dressed in silver space suits serving food. When they returned later – guess they enjoyed the grub – the “saucer” was gone and they asked all around only to discover that no one else had ever eaten in the place. Shades of the Twilight Zone my friend. Just another greasy spoon from outer space, I often ask myself.

6. Could you go into aliens stealing our consciousness and using our bodies for their own agendas?

Beckley – In one episode in the Evil Empire, I relate how an entire coastal town in Brazil is “possessed” by Ultra-Terrestrials. At high noon a UFO is seen – and photographed – parading across the sky. Over a period of several hours several residents start channeling messages and doing automatic writing. The aliens want earth to give up its use of nuclear energy and “go green.” People’s entire lives have been changed – usually not for their benefit. Physical changes like in the Exorcist have even been noted – one individual it is said looked like his body had been attacked by bees it had swollen so badly. The late gossip columnist Ruth Montgomery referred to these aliens who take over human bodies as Walk-Ins. Sometimes they possess supernatural strength, psychic abilities and can perform feats of magic which are associated with ET encounters. Uri Geller has been a friend over the years. He doesn’t like to speak about his alien “benefactors” but I have gotten him to open up to me on several occasions and have written several articles on his UFO/alien involvement. In his case, it has seemingly made him a millionaire, but the Ultra –Terrestrials can get us to co-operate with them whether we realize it or not!

7. I certainly know alot of abductees and contactees self medicate, and I found it interesting that your book had the balls to bring this up. I always wanted to do an article on it. What can you tell us about this, because I for one know I’ve self medicated over the years to deal with my own experiences with the unknown. Kudos for bringing this up.

Beckley – This isn’t something that I can relate to all that well. There have been some incidents where those taking a variety of “stimulants” have reportedly seen into other realms. This is part of the shamanic experience. The late Dr John C. Lilly claims to have even spoken with dolphins and Ultra Terrestials while on Ketamine. Our mutual friend Adam Gorightly has written a bit about the “self medicating” aspects of UFOlogy. In fact, in one article Gorightly describes how Dr. Lilly was convinced that his life was being watched over by higher powers of an extraterrestrial origin. Lilly referred to this network of sublime entities as ECCO, an acronym for “Earth Coincidence Control Office.” Lilly was positive that all of these fortuitous coincidences in his life had been arranged by higher forces; and that whatever unfortunate folly fell into his path along the road to knowledge, ECCO would be there to guide him safely through the tunnel to the light. Hey I got to go along with this concept. I have had so many off the wall synchronicities that someone or something has to be “arranging” them.

8. Wow. Aliens shapeshifting into Jesus or the Pope or celebrities to get people to have sex with them for breeding purposes? Could you tell us about this crazy intersteller shagging?

Beckley – Well it may not be as kinky as it sounds. . . or maybe it is.

I always said half jokingly that the aliens were coming down to earth as they saw it as one big red light district. Hell, even B movie producers have gotten into the act. There was a movie a few years back, Earth Girls Are Easy. And lets not forget the multitude of pulp magazine covers from the 40s and 50s, where earth women were being dragged off half naked by some over zealous alien male looking no doubt to save his planet from extinction.

Brad Steiger, years ago, wrote about the “Lovers Lane Intruders ” where couples parked on some desolate lovers lane were separated by ETs coming in the darkness to take what they felt “was theirs.” There was also the “Bedroom Invaders” who left wet spots and claw marks and ripped sheets.

Dr Turner insisted: “Aliens have forced their human abductees to have sexual intercourse with aliens and even with other abductees while groups of aliens observe these performances. In such encounters, the aliens have sometimes disguised themselves in order to gain the cooperation of the abductee, appearing in such forms as Jesus, the Pope, certain celebrities, and even the dead spouses of the abductees.”

9. Sometimes its hard for me to hold unto such a grim picture of the aliens even though I know evidence says otherwise but I often have said maybe its fear intruding. But I know that’s not the case every time. Surely are some good ETs out there with our best interests at heart as well. Not just ones with a dark agenda?

Beckley – I used to think so and maybe there are. I hate to be all that negative. There have been some cases where people have found buried treasure after following a UFO. There are some healings, including the well known case of patrolman Goody many years ago who was bit by a poisonous snake. His hand had swollen and he had it hanging outside the window of his patrol car on the way to the hospital to get a a necessary shot of a venom antidote. A UFO came over the car and shot down a beam of light and the swelling went down almost immediately and the poison was gone. Hunter Carl Higdon had a scar on his lung which mysteriously disappeared after having gone on a round about with aliens who picked him up in the wilds of Wyoming and than dropped him off later in the day. It’s a classic case I investigated that had all sorts of paranormal aspects. Associate Sean Casteel contributed to a book, Angels of the Lord, in which he espouses a more benevolent breed of aliens and angels.

10. Lately I’m deep into Squatch and the UFO connection and just Bigfoot in general, any thoughts or stories you’d like to share just for the flippity fun of it?

Beckley – There may be some hairy ape-like creatures living in the woods, but I think most of these cryptoids are paranormal in nature. One witness even told of seeing Squatch walking across a golf course in Staten Island. I mean the woods are not so dense that they could live there, so where did they go? I also was the first researcher to write about the Skunk Apes of the Everglades. I wrote an article for Saga magazine back in the Seventies that is now posted on the net. In one episode a security guard cornered a smelly old creature in the back of a trailer truck and slammed and locked the door on em. He called for back up, but when they opened the truck door only the odor remained. Where had the big, brute of a hairy creature disappeared to? He didn’t just walk away.

11. What are some personal thoughts of yours about this book that you would like to share to my readers? Also what is Tim Beckley up to in the future book wise and project wise and could you give us your links and contact information as well. So we can spread the word about your publishing company which I adore by the way. Thanks Tim!

Beckley – Well I like to keep busy you know I also host and appear in low budget horror movies under the moniker of Mr Creepo (www.MrCreepo.Com). And on the average my Global Communications puts out four books a month both in hard form and on Kindle. I also travel a bit and am on a good many talk shows including one hosted by William Shatner which is due to air on the History Channel in Canada later this year. I go back to the days of Long John Nebel and Barry Farber and the Amazing Randi whom most people don’t realize had a show every night from midnight to dawn which dealt with the paranormal. Believe it or not! Then there is the weekly newsletter which fellow henchman Tim Swartz puts together so brilliantlywww.ConspiracyJournal.Com. Always try to keep busy it’s the only way. Am always interested in case studies if anyone wants to share them with me at

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TIMOTHY GREEN BECKLEY – UFO & Paranormal Pioneer

Timothy Green Beckley has been described as the Hunter Thompson of UFOlogy.

Since an early age his life has more or less revolved around the paranormal. His grandfather saw the apparition of a headless horseman. His life was saved by invisible beings around the age of three. The house he was raised in was thought to be haunted. Beckley also underwent out of body experiences at age six.

And saw his first of three UFOs when he was but ten, and has had two more sightings since – including an attempt to communicate with one of these objects.

Tim grew up listening to the only all night talk show in the country that revolved around the strange and unexplained. Long John Nebel’s guests included the early UFO contactees who claimed to have visited other planets and built time machines in the desert. Tim was fascinated by everything that went bump in the night – or even in the daylight for that matter. Years later, Tim was to appear on Long John’s show numerous times and over the years has been a frequent guest on hundreds of programs which have come and gone just like ghosts in the night.

Tim started his career as a writer early on – at age 14 he purchased a mimeograph machine and started putting out a small UFO newsletter. Over the years he has written over 25 books on everything from rock music to the secret MJ12 papers. He has been a stringer for the national tabloids such as the Enquirer and editor of over 30 different magazines (most of which never lasted more than a couple of issues). His longest running effort was the newsstand publication UFO UNIVERSE which went for 11 years. Today he is the president of Inner Light/Global Communications and editor of the Conspiracy Journal and Bizarre Bazaar.

He is one of the few Americans ever to be invited to speak before closed door meetings on UFOs presided over by the late Earl of Clancarty at the House of Lords in England. He visited Loc Ness in Scottland while in the UK and went home with a belief that Nessie was somehow connected with dragons of mythology as well as strange discs engraved on cathedrals and ghostly phenomenon.

The Inner Light Publications and Global Communiations’ catalog of books and video titles now number over 200, including the works of Tim Swartz, T. Lobsang Rampa, Commander X, Brad Steiger, John Keel, Tracy Twyman, Wendelle Stevens and a host of many other authors. His own best sellers include Our Alien Planet, Strange Saga, Subterranean Worlds Inside Earth, John Lennon – We Knew You

As the horror movie host Mr Creepo Beckley has made numerous films including Skin Eating Jungle Vampires and Blood Sucking Vampire Freaks.

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