Senator's "NBC" Response To Constituent's Info Request

by BobJen3 and The National MiddleClass Network.

     Recently, we initiated a pilot poll which we call the “Generally Recognized As Safe Definition of Natural Born Citizen” Project or the “Gras nbcdef” Project.

    This came about due to many factors such as: our years of debating the issue with others, conflicting source details, and especially numerous columns on the subject, even recently one by the NY Times-Politico-Breitbart combination, all recently posted in our national newsletter.

    We asked a few selected group members to email/contact their senators and representatives in Congress to obtain an idea of their accepted definition of “Natural Born Citizen”.   We suspected the responses would be all over the place…and so far, mostly they are.

    However, this column is not about any final results (as more members will be participating in Phase 2). This is about one senator’s attentive, “over and above”, detailed response to a constituent’s request on the issue.

    Our position in this is not to support any side; this first phase is simply to obtain accepted definitions of “natural born citizen”. Still, it would be inappropriate to let stand certain misstatements made by the senator. 

    So here, with all due respect, are just a few points, for the record, that need amending in his response:

1) “The White House” (meaning Mr. Obama) released nothing of a related kind in six years. 

2) Mr. Obama has refused to release the one actual document that everyone wants to see…HIS OWN ORIGINAL birth certificate…the one allegedly sealed and vaulted at $5 million taxpayer expense. 

3) The “certification” on the 4-27-11 one has itself clear issues which alone invalidate it’s credibility, such as a typo (“TXE” apparently instead of “THE”…How many others have that?) and, most troubling, it simply is NOT certified as anything even remotely close to “This is a true and accurate copy of Mr. Obama’s Original Hawaiian Birth Certificate”. See attachment.

    One final point: Exactly to which alleged “experts” does the senator refer, that “generally” concur?

    The list of experts that proclaim the 4-27-11 one to be a forgery is virtually mountain-high, including law enforcement, forensic experts, etc.  Add to that many others, including a former state supreme court judge, who have publicly said that there is no proof that the birth certificate is legitimate, a newspaper publisher who calls for an investigation saying the birth certificate is a doctored fake…and on and on.

    Again, this is not intended to make a case for any side; just to amend misstatements. And it is difficult to provide one that does that more than fellow Senate Republican Tom Casperson who said in a 2-26-13 interview that he did not know where Mr. Obama was born. This was said the day after Senator Crapo’s letter to Mr. Alumbaugh.

   Personally, we agree with Senator Casperson in not knowing where Mr. Obama was born and also whether he is “natural born citizen” POTUS-eligible or not…because we too have not seen HIS OWN ORIGINAL HAWAIIAN Birth Certificate…the one that is allegedly sealed and vaulted at $5 million taxpayer expense…or what the accepted definition is of “natural born citizen”.  Do any of you? 

   Also, as a reminder, the 2008 Certification of Live Birth had its own “certification” issue. It was/is INVALID.  Said so at its very bottom. Or can anyone show us where its required certification number was shown? Hence, the need for the 4-27-11 image.

  Here, now, is Senator Crapo’s response to Mr. Alumbaugh’s request (with his permission to run it).  Please feel free to send your comments to Senator Crapo and to us.

  Thanks, Bob and Jenny of The National MiddleClass Network

Contacts and other:

>Senator Crapo :  [email protected] 

>TNMCNetwork  :  c/o [email protected] 

>Senator Tom Casperson: I Don’t Know Where Obama Was Born: Media Not Giving Full Story 

>Illinois Newspaper Publisher: Obama Birth Certificate Doctored Fake; Calls For Investigation

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/02/newspaper-publisher-obama-birth-certificate-fake.html

>Tom Kocal of Prairie Advocate can be thanked at: http://www.pacc-news.com

>David Giuliani is a reporter for Sauk Valley Media. He can be reached at [email protected] or at 800-798-4085, ext. 525.

February 25, 2013

Dale Alumbaugh

(Address redacted)

Dear Dale:

Thank you for contacting me regarding citizenship and other eligibility requirements for public office. I appreciate hearing from you and welcome the opportunity to respond.

In recent years, questions have arisen about the eligibility of President Barack Obama for the office of President of the United States. You are justified to be concerned about a possible violation of the Constitution, and I understand how important your concerns are. Having confidence in the electoral process and our officials is critical to maintaining public confidence in our country. As such, the people must be confident in the integrity of the electoral process and our electoral institutions.

A number of provisions of Constitutional, federal and state law govern the resolution of this issue. First, and perhaps foremost, in our system of law, the states have jurisdiction to determine and establish documentation of live births. The Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution provides: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

This Constitutional reservation of powers to the states gives them a significant role in determining the eligibility of those running for federal office. In this case, the State of Hawaii has clearly declared that the birth certificate showing that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, is valid. Both the Director of Hawaii’s Department of Health and the state’s Registrar of Vital Statistics confirmed that Mr. Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961 and, as such, meets the constitutional citizenship requirements for the presidency.

In response to remaining questions about documentation, the White House publicly released President Obama’s birth certificate in April 2011. The Certificate of Live Birth released by the White House bears the certification of the Hawaii State Registrar. Experts reviewing the documents generally concur it contains all the elements of a valid Certificate of Live Birth, including all the relevant data and signatures. Claims that the document was forged have not been substantiated.

The Constitution and federal law require that, among other things, only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both American citizens) are eligible to be President of the United States. Under our system of law, it is the states that make the determination of and provide the validation of birth to determine qualification to serve as president. In this matter, the State of Hawaii has done so. If contrary documentation is produced and verified, this matter will necessarily be resolved by the judicial branch of our government under the Constitution.

In that context, these and other related allegations have been raised, but consistently dismissed in several courts, including the United States Supreme Court. Specifically, the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania dismissed Berg v. Obama. That case has been taken to the U.S. Supreme Court on multiple occasions, but the Court has refused to hear it each time. The Hawaii Supreme Court denied the petitioner’s request in Martin v. Lingle. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear Donofrio v. Wells, which challenged the citizenship of both Obama and Senator John McCain (R-Arizona), who was born in the U.S. territory of the Panama Canal Zone. The Connecticut Supreme Court dismissed Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz, which the U.S. Supreme Court later declined to hear. Finally, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia recently dismissed Hollister v. Soetoro.

Under our Constitution, it is the state that determines live birth status and the courts that oversee proper determination of the facts and application of the law. In this circumstance, those requirements have been followed. If additional information is brought to light then further review will be undertaken, as it properly should, in our judicial system.

I appreciate hearing from you and appreciate your vigilance in supporting our Constitution. I look forward to working with you on other matters of importance.

Again, thank you for contacting me. Please feel free to contact me in the future on this or other matters of interest to you. For more information about the issues before the U.S. Senate as well as news releases, photos, and other items of interest, please visit my Senate website, http://crapo.senate.gov.

Sincerely,

Mike Crapo

United States Senator

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