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Uncle Tim Warns Left of Civil War and Rightwing Death Squads

Tuesday, October 11, 2016 21:11
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Uncle Tim has been thinking through the consequences of a Trump defeat:

“Here’s the problem we face with this election. Although every respectable pollster says Trump will lose, his people KNOW he will win. And not just win, but win in a landslide (bigly!) Seriously, this is what they say online and in email after email they send to me…

They say this because they live in a right wing echo chamber of their own creation: FOX, Brietbart Drudge etc…They think everyone thinks like them. That women aren’t offended by Trump, nor people of color. They seriously expect a 40+state romp…

They think pollsters are part of a conspiracy to rig the election, who would risk their professional reputations to convince people of Clinton’s lead…They think things like polling methodology are for pussies and intellectuals (same thing of course)…college shit…They believe Clinton can’t win except by fraud, by which they mean POC voting “ten times” as Trump himself has suggested they’ll do…

And their hero stokes this paranoia, encouraging his base to serve as poll watchers in “certain areas” (guess where?) to uncover fraud..

Now, ask yourself what happens when folks encouraged to see conspiracies, who think their country has been “stolen” wake up and realize they lost? Do you suspect they’ll accept the loss & think “gee, I guess we have to work harder next time….?” Do you think they’ll admit that most Americans reject their politics? Their xenophobia, sexism, etc? No, because everyone THEY know thinks like them…So they’ll double down on their “my country has been stolen” bullshit and then what? They have only one recourse…and we all know what it is..

…they’ll see they don’t have the votes but they have lots of guns…lots and lots of fucking guns. So we on the left, who they’ll be coming for best be prepared and we’d best take every necessary precaution because these fuckers WANT civil war….I get that from them every day in my Twitter feed, via email, or on my FB page. If you think second second civil war isn’t possible you aren’t paying attention…

I’m not telling anyone what to do in this situation, but you’d best be prepared. Because shit is gonna get ugly. These folks don’t lose well… I know they’ll try and come for me and others who do what I do. But know this, their hatred knows no boundaries. It won’t stop with public figures. We are all at risk. And so, if they start it, they must be crushed. Without mercy…There do not compromise, and they do not negotiate. They either win or lose. They must lose, whatever that takes…

I believe in non-violence. I also believe in self defense. And if someone brings war to you, you have a right and obligation to end them.


Clearly, Uncle Tim is worried about the possibility of some black-pilled Trump supporter showing up on his doorstep in a red MAGA hat and opening fire.

Like Hurricane Matthew, the #NeverTrump coup on Saturday has sent the GOP down an unexpected track. In my previous forecast, I had expected a narrow Trump victory or defeat. In the event of a Trump defeat, I had assumed that all the Republican factions would blame each other, try to purge each other, and that no one faction would emerge dominant. Each faction of the Republican Party would retreat into its own corner.

But now? It is an open question whether the Republican Party will even exist four years from now. There might not be another nominee in 2020, who would lose, and another nominee after that in 2024, who would lose. My best guess was that the downward spiral into political violence would happen sometime around 2024. I figured it would take another decade of Democratic control of the White House to reach that point.

It all depended on whether the Republican Party remains intact. If either Trump or Hillary lost, it was always a given that there was going to be some degree of destabilization. If the Republican Party simply imploded like the Whig Party though, like overnight, all bets are off. We radically overestimated the strength of the GOP establishment in the primary season. It might be less resilient than we thought.

The election of 1852 was the death knell of the divided Whig Party. Franklin Pierce won in a landslide – 27 out of 31 states. It was quite an electoral mandate, but history only remembers the Pierce presidency for the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. The idea was to open up the Kansas and Nebraska territories to slavery in order to tack on some points to the balance of power within the Union.

You can probably see where this is going. What if Hillary wins and a Democratic Congress passes the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2018? What if the Republicans – like the Whigs before them – crumble over immigration? How long would it take for the shooting to start? No one in 1852 realized that they were only two years away from Bleeding Kansas and six years away from the War Between the States.

Just some food for thought. It could ugly really fast.


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