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Nibiru Incoming! – “Something Is Really Strange"

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Vatic Note:  Wow, this is a must listen to radio program on Hagmann and Hagmann where they are interviewing Bob Fletcher about Nibiru and for the first time, after hearing this interview….. I believe they are onto something here.  You listen and then look at the photos we lifted off of Fletchers site.  These are awesome and comprehensive.  The only one I had trouble with was the last photo and I put my comments there instead of up here.

Once again,  I still believe this will not be as bad as previous pass throughs by this twin star with their associated planets.  Why?  Because the scientists who have opened their big mouths made it clear it was coming from the south this time around and not coming in on the eliptic, where it has in the past and done an enormous amount of damage.

I believe we have already seen the debri on its arrival, that it always picks up from the ort cloud that it travels through on these return trips…..which was a year or two ago.  In driving, to Durango from my burg of a town, I saw meteors incoming in the night sky and it was awesome.  I knew just by the size, tails, and speed that they were not man made.   One hit in Indonesia and another in Russia and that was about it. 

Now, do they plan on taking advantage of this so called crisis?  Of course they do,  Rahm Emmanual arrogantly said so when he said “never let a good crisis go to waste”.  And they never do, they always take advantage if given the opportunity.   It came in from the south, and went over the sun and is now heading back to its original location.  We did several blogs on various issues tangentially connected to this Nibiru issue here, here, and here.  We followed this over two years ago, and now I am glad we did.  Same with blogs on Antarctica.

We did blogs just on the research facilities in the antarctic and speculated that this was why there were 30 countries with research facilities in such a remote and uninteresting location, and we wondered why? Notice, in this article below, the photo of the gold and now we know why the Fed Res told Germany they had to wait 10 years to get their gold.

Fort Knox is empty and China has built a 2,000 ton gold vault underground.  That implies they are going down underground and do not plan on coming back up for 10 years.  Very interesting and strange.  Read and listen below and you can then decide. 

”Nibiru Incoming! Steve Quayle & Bob Fletcher On Hagmann And Hagmann – “Something Is Really Strange”
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By Susan Duclos,  Before It’s News,  December 6, 2014

A blockbuster Hagmann and Hagmann show from Friday night with special  Steve Quayle,  who brings on investigator and researcher Bob Fletcher, where they jump right into the topic of Nibiru and Planet X, with information that will blow your mind!  

In the show below, you will hear about “connections between the missing billions of dollars, secrets of space programs, and future space oriented disasters INCOMING! As well as the sciences , astronomical experts, historic proofs, amazing space information being kept from us all!”

Fletcher explains right up front that there was a time he would not even associate his name with Nibiru and Planet X because it was “science fiction” in his mind, until he started uncovering vanishing money, thousands of underground facilities in Russia, United States and China, and other suspicious activities that related to this highly controversial topic….. Fletcher determined that “something is really strange”….. and the digging began in earnest.  

Quayle reminds listeners as well about the deaths of many scientists and astronomers, which he has been tracking for two decades. See “Dead Scientists 1994-2003” and “Dead Scientists 2004 – 2014.”

Quayle and Fletcher join the show at around the 3:15 minute mark.
Fletcher’s site bobfletcher.com can be found HERE and some excellent photos on this topic can be found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LRmL4xDLAA8 

(Photo above from bobfletcherinvestigations.com)

ADDITIONAL PHOTOS FROM THE BOB FLETCHER INVESTIGATIONS SITE.  These are amazing photos and

2014, THIS GREAT NEW DVD, CONNECTS THE DOTS BETWEEN THE LOSS & THEFT OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. TRILLIONS GONE, FROM THE TREASURY, D.O.D . BUDGETS, SECRETED FUNDS AND THE GOLD BARS OWNED BY THE WORLD GOVERNMENTS, AND THE USA.

(VN: Remember on a blog we did, we discovered that China had a 200,000 ton vault for storing gold.  Imagine the size of such a facility and I bet its underground.  Also remember Goldman Sachs was China’s exclusive “international brokerage house”.   Goldman Sachs is owned by Rothschild, so is that vault for all the gold stolen by Rothschild from fort Knox under control of the Federal Reserve???  Remember when Germany tried to get their gold back and it was refused.  In fact, the Fed Reserve said they could get it back in 10 years.  That upset the Germans no end.)



ALL THE GOLD IS GONE FROM FORT- KNOX ! NINE TRILLION IS GONE FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, GIVEN TO FOREIGN UNKNOWN BANKS..OR.. SOMEPLACE?
GONE ! GONE ! GONE !
LIKELY THAT NO GOLD OF ANY SERIOUS AMOUNT EXISTS HERE TODAY!

NIBIRU, the tenth planet .A NEWER PHOTO VIA TELESCOPIC LENSES, WITH 4 MOONS EASILY SHOWING . THE # 5 MOON IS AT 5 O’CLOCK FROM NIBIRU.. HARD TO SEE.IN THE NEW DVD EXPOSE ,TITLED “INCOMING ” YOU WILL SEE, THE CONNECTIONS TO THE INCOMING OF A GALACTIC SURPRISE, SOON TO THROW THE GLOBE INTO TOTAL CHAOS…THE RETURN OF NIBIRU…THE 10TH PLANET .. It’s AFFECTS ALREADY FELT! EXPOSE’ OF SECRET SPACE PROGRAMS…15, 000 CROP CIRCLES COMMUNICATING WITH EARTH SCIENTISTS. ALIEN ASSISTANCE TO DEVELOPMENT OF AIR CRAFT ELECTRONICS , POWER WEAPONS, 10,000 YEAR OLD CULTURES , AHEAD IN TIME.SPACE TRAVEL, TIME TRAVEL, TIME WARP, ASSISTING NASA, TO DEVELOP

A REAL PHOTO FROM A REAL TELESCOPE, IN SPACE. NIBIRU AND IT’S 5 MOONS ! BETTER SEEN HERE, ALL 5 MOONS. NASA PHOTO ART WORK OF NIBIRU     

A NASA DRAWN IMAGE OF THE SIZE OF PLANET X..NOT CORRECT. THE SIZE IS LARGER , 5 TIMES THE EARTH,WITH 5 MOONS.

Nibiru, left of sun , photographed with sun rise . NIBIRU IS USUALLY BEHIND THE SUN HEADED IN TOWARD EARTH.@ A 30 DEGREE OFF, ORBIT.IN THE OPPOSITE OF THE OTHER PLANETS.

TELESCOPIC SHOT ACTUAL NIBIRU, IRON ORE DUST, FLIES OFF LIKE WINGS !

ARTIST’S CONCEPTION, THE PLANET X WITH IT’S WINGS,OF IRON OXIDE.

ANOTHER REAL CAMERA SHOT , POTENTIALLY
THE SUN(L) WITH NIBIRU , (R) A DENMARK PHOTO.

UNDERGROUND FACILlTLIES AS SURVIVAL LOCATIONS FOR THE ELITE. WITH OUR MONEY ! SEE THE CONNECTION TO 100′S OF UNDERGROUND HIDE OUTS AROUND THE WORLD, FOR THE LIMITED, FEW. ADVANCED HIDE OUTS !

Over 100 such hide-outs! UNDER GROUND SECRETS. EXAMPLE OF UNDER- GROUND HIGH WAYS.

Count the doors, try a break IN ? What is behind the doors stays there, 100′s of these, not all this elaborate, but kept secret!

An inner door, behind an inner door, home sweet home for some select group! Conversion of parts of the military bases underground, for survival applications, are easy !
HOW DO THEY DIG THE HOLES.
Can you dig it? …This is the method for digging the underground hide outs!

ONE BIG DRILL!
One pass, into a mountain side, and some reinforcement and the hide out is ALMOST,ready for furniture ! DIGS TUNNELS IN HOURS.

FEMA was checking on the supplies. TONS UPON TONS HAVE BEEN LOADED UNDER GROUND FOR THEM, NOT YOU, WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS ! THE SUPPLIES FOR THE SECRET UNDERGROUND OPERATIONS AND STOCK- PILES. Here is seen a letter from FEMA, SENT OUT IN JULY 2013, surveying the amounts of emergency foods available from their suppliers! GOVERNMENT IS FILLING THE UNDERGROUND FACILITIES WITH TONS OF DRIED FOODS FOR THEIR OWN SURVIVAL , WHEN THE PLANET NIBIRU ,CAUSES CHAOS WORLD WIDE !

Off-loading into the Ozarks underground, survival location. Inside off-loading, Ozark giant under- ground facility.THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET BENEATH GROUND.

VERY IMPORTANT ..BUT PLAYED DOWN! A NASA CONFESSION..NASA ALSO ADMITS (2013) TO WORM HOLES OPEN AND CLOSE ALL THE TIME, USUALLY BETWEEN THE SUN AND EARTH (SO THEY SAY) ACTUALLY THEY HAVE BEEN CONNECTING WITH THESE FOR MANY YEARS,TO SOME PLACE, BUT NOT THE SUN.
 
POSSIBLY A REAL WORM HOLE?  (VN:  or HAARP playing games with us, which is what one scientist, at that time, speculated.   He pointed out the light coming from over the mountains, and that was in either Norway or Russia, I don’t remember which. )

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    • Anonymous

      nobody is going to read all this cyber junk
      only short high quality information

      • Anonymous

        The BIGGEST Coverup in USA History

        http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=2257

        What Obama and NASA don’t want you to know!

        • Boxed in Freight

          Got my care windows tinted with a heavy tint and wore a dark pair of sun glasses…stood on the opposite side of my car and looked through both tinted windows with my sunglasses – I saw no other ball next to the sun.

          :lol: :lol: :lol:

        • Mayhem

          A twenty dollar welding helmet wouldn’t have been half the bother. Either way there’s still only one Sun.

    • The Real Deal

      This is an identical thread to the one Susan Dooklow put up like two days ago.

      That said…i love your blog lol. Been following it for awhile. Wish i could donate, but i don’t give my money away online unless i’m gambling or ordering Russian wives.

    • jdfearl

      If Steve Quayle could keep mouth shut it might have been worth listening to. That guy is an asshat

    • Central Scrutinizer

      H O G W A S H ….

      Here’s the secret that everybody is hiding.

      Nibiru DOES NOT EXIST!!!

      That is all. As you were.

      • Millennium

        Your right….the Sumarians imagined it all as it went by.

        • Mayhem

          If they did, Millennium, how would we know? It’s not like there exists a credible translation of the Sumerian tablets. Unless you know something the rest of us don’t.

        • Lord

          Hey May Hem, the fem blend of BEEF JERKY!

          I will answer your DUMB AS CRAP question about “something YOU do NOT know, idiot (and there is a lot that you do NOT know May Hem, the fem blend of BEEF JERKY). SO, PAY CAREFUL ATTENTION NEW ZEALAND christo-CREEP!!!

          All of the refined Gold bullion bars that could be located on earth, have all been moved to the prescribed Cargo Warehouses for transit by the soon to be arriving Anunnaki.
          All the banks hold NO MORE Gold bullion bars.

          Consider, Hey May Hem, the fem blend of BEEF JERKY, my favorite ancient peoples are the Sumerians. While their cuneiform script is subject to human (and software) interpretational mistakes because of lack of a similar comparable concept between cultures, the tens of thousands of drawn pictures, inscribed on “roll” printing wheels, and printed on a variety of plant/paper and clay mediums, ARE NOT subject to the same extreme “translation” interpretations.

          Clearly, one can see, in a literal sense, the messages these people left for us. And remember the forms of agriculture, accounting, numerology (Arabic numbers, base 10), the first examples of cylinder shaped mass printing presses, and mass sanitation, enabling cities to be formed, ALL seemly sprang out of nowhere, and just, suddenly, appeared, with the Sumerian culture AND REMAIN TO THIS DAY, the primary systems used world wide in the described areas. One would agree that without the Sumerians existence, modern society would not exist in it’s present form.

          What did they “see’, and draw? Double Helixes, the solar system with all planets in the proper place, plus one (named Nibiru), Humanoid Beings (described as “gods”) that are 2 to 3 times in size larger than the “Sumerians” pictured with them, gold mining is pictured, clear beakers positioned in the hands of a god, showing the mixing of unknown substances, and so much more.

          These beings (the giant humanoid gods, male & female) were declared as ‘their makers”, and, in “their image” Sumerians were made on a “smaller” scale.
          Sumerians were genetically made specifically to mine gold for the giant humanoid gods, male & female, that were present with them physically. The giant humanoid gods, male & female, used part of their DNA combined with Neanderthal Humanoids that were native to the planet at that time in history. The result was the Genetically modified lab created humanoid we identify as “Sumerians”, the “Origins” of Modern Man, and “his” civilization!

          There is NO “missing link” in the evolutionary development of modern man.

          There is NO “symbolism or imagination” employed in creation of this art.

          The Pictures portray, literally, what the Sumerians saw. They did NOT understand it, BUT, they could picture it, and spread those images far and wide.
          They did NOT call them “gods”, they called them by a specific noun Proper name, the Anunnaki, or, closest translation, “”those who from the heavens came to earth”.

          Get rid of the ever present “judeo-christian” academic censorship and THERE IS NO MYSTERY anymore about the origins of modern man in this epoch of earth history!

        • Mayhem

          I decline to get into this with you Blush Puppy, Sheepster, Piggy, Mannglob or whatever you’re called. Not because i can’t but just because i don’t like you. Sitchin is your god and you’re welcome to it :razz:

        • 0 Sum

          He also likes to go by “christopher creeps the ever innocent” and “lord of the cargo pants”

        • Sheep Herder 1

          FACT CHECK
          FACT CHECK
          Rule of thumb: ALWAYS Fact check everything a chrisTOID might say first, before ‘believing’ them!!!!!!
          Like, the christoids, BESIDES BEING THE best HOARDER/KILLER ALL MALE CULT EVER assembled on the planet, also plagiarize EVERYTHING within their “Scripture” from some other, older work of literature, and, then “call it their own”. Like the CROSS symbol of the Anunnaki, AS PICTURED BY THE Sumerians in many of their drawings, THE SYMBOL OF THEIR “real humanoid “gods” (MALE AND FEMALE, IDIOT chrisTOIDS), THE Anunnaki, is THE CROSS! And you thieving christians STOLE THAT, TOO, and wrapped it into “your” all male told “Tale Of WOE”!

          Also, who the hell is this “sitchin” moron you refer to in the following quote, you ass-u-me-ing, pompous, no nothing, christian arse hole??? “
          Why, May Hem, the fem blend of BEEF JERKY, and I quote, “Not because i can’t but just because i don’t like you. Sitchin is your god and you’re welcome to it”.
          :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
          My Answer: May, I am really glad that you do not like me! Before I am through with you, and without EVER making physical contact with you, this Heretic is going to make you wish that you were JUST “dealing with a demon”!!!!!!!
          So, keep on reading my words, May Hem, the fem blend of BEEF JERKY, and, get even angrier, and HATE ME, chrisTOID! For, fair warning, I ask NO QUARTER from your kind, and I will give NO quarter to your kind, at all, NO EXCEPTIONS!

          And, for you my rather dull-witted, christian retard SELF NAMED, zero SCUM!
          Such a “weak” response, I think your pay should be “docked’ tonight by your employer, Chris, your little buddy!
          :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
          Are you, zeroSCUM, just bumming around BIN, sprinkling your little turd like smelly comments all over BIN, eh, douche bag (for christ, of course)!!!!!
          :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
          Will you just commit jesu-cide, like your white-skinned mangod allowed his death at the hands of others, and you could be,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,prasing him, and kneeing to him by nightfall today!
          :cry: :cry: :cry:
          I will convert :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: if you will ‘go to him”, THE WHITE-SKINNED MANGOD, willingly, by nightfall, zeroSCUM, the pathetic human excuse of a human being!!!!
          :grin: :grin:
          HEY, where are your “Spiritual” Butt buddies tonight, 69ing monkies, and BEEF SCUM, iamanasshole123, and the like?
          Out trying to “spiritually” Gang rape another resister to your vile, evil, VIOLENT, CREED, May Hem, the fem blend of BEEF JERKY and zeroSCUM?
          Hey, who says I do not like to PREY????
          Let’s Prey together, boys!
          :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
          Please recite with me, the “Prayer To the COW”!
          OH, WONDERFUL COW!
          MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COW!
          :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
          BEEF JERKY and “May Hem, the fem blend of BEEF JERKY” ARE BOTH on their knees, both worshiping at the site of your holy udder!
          :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
          May your teat of Joy squirt into my mouth (BUT, not theirs, for they are “unwashed” :evil: :evil: non-believers :twisted: :twisted: in you, Holy MOO COW) your holy elixir of Life itself, your Milk, oh, Full of Grace and Greatness, MY Holy MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COW!!!
          :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
          For, only by following the Cow, may May Hem, the fem blend of BEEF JERKY, and his mentor, BEEF JERKY, know true peace on this earth!
          :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

        • Mayhem

          I read all of that, Sheepy, and i’d just like to say. Nah “dislike” is as good as you’re ever going to get out of me. I’ve fended of smarter, more capable than the likes of you, puppy blusher.

          In fact there’s the odd time i find your commentary altogether interesting. In many regards we’re on the same trip but i’m all about the love and you, not so much.

        • 0 Sum

          mayhem Quote: “I’ve fended of smarter, more capable than the likes of you, puppy blusher.”

          That’s totally true mayhem. You have.

          Have you noticed that this splintered entity who was named “Bearer of Christ” at birth by his well meaning but misguided parents is nothing more than a childish push button donkey?

          Push the button and the donkey “Hee Haws” Simple is as simples does…

          You can hardly blame his subordinates like KOS when the head of the house behaves like this.

        • Mayhem

          I have thought that, ZeroSum, but not quite in those terms. Funny analogy, brother :lol:

          Just don’t let on what it is, exactly, that he’s being used for :wink:

          He’s so driven there’s value in him :?: :arrow:

        • Mayhem

          @Sean. Who the heck is Vic Alexander and what makes his opinion more worthy than the scholars? He’s just another Sitchin, as far as i could tell.

          I’m worried this is a “Unity Church” front. Chrislam anyone?

    • Andor

      This a lot of nonsense!!!
      Do some research and your last photo check RT it was a Russian rocket.
      Lot of BS this!!!!!

    • Wake up America - All News PipeLine

      Love it and appreciate the link :) Great Job!!!

    • Manichee

      I believe something is going to happen, We will soon all know if this is true or not, come 2016 :wink:

    • RationalSkeptic

      Nope, it isn’t. It does not exist. The red planet photographed might be Jupiter.

      • abnegative

        Here is the problem with all of the debunkers I have seen , They so no , not real but none address the mountain of evidence of rapid earth change occuring through history . This in combination with the various cultural legends , some scriptures in the bible itself speak of the earth wobbling as if it were drunk during these times. There is clearly now a huge gravitational anomoly causing plate movement to increase in magnitude and speed . There is much more , all of which makes a composite picture that has to be addressed and with only one explanation that is available to us . Some would shovel all of these things as a series of coincidences ….Riiiight.

    • InquisitiveMind

      “I saw meteors incoming in the night sky and it was awesome. I knew just by the size, tails, and speed that they were not man made.”

      Yup, those man made meteors are so much easier to discern.

      • max jones

        ….If you look real close at a man made meteor…you can usually pick out the serial numbers. :cool:

      • LifeIs

        Man-made meteors are the ones with flat trajectories, on the same paths as satellite launches…and they are large enough to cross the whole sky without burning up completely.

    • Mr Lightbeam

      Planet X

      You are reading too many comics!!

      When it comes tell the little green men inside it to take all the evil buggers away!! :mrgreen:

    • Mayhem

      Nibiru, shnibiru :lol:

      • Sean

        It has nothing to do with the Translator, the Translations ( which are in the Library of Congress) are from the Ancient Aramaic Scriptures, that were never destroyed.

        Jesus spoke..Ancient Aramaic..it also pre-dates Greek and Hebrew.

        Also if you ever read the Greek and Hebrew, which was translated into English, the Greek and Hebrew is closer to the Ancient Aramaic in the wording, and the wording it very important to understand the meaning

        • Mayhem

          I look to the Greek, the Hebrew, the Aramaic manuscripts and even the Latin because, yes, accuracy is critical to robust understanding. From your links…

          “it’s finally possible to interpret the Scriptures correctly and reconcile the tenets of the five major religions: Western Christianity, Modern Judaism, Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism. It’s now possible to return to one conception of what the Scriptures are all about.”

          … unity church! Chrislam anyone?

    • ThirdEyeMind

      After all of the rumors surrounding this whole topic, and the fact that it also got all wound up in the 2012 hysteria, to no fruition of any sort, I’ve pretty much skimmed over almost everything and anything in relation to Nibiru. However, and I’m surprised I’m saying this, there have been several items of interest in recent news that, when put alongside each other, and alongside the whole Nibiru speculation, that’s when my head began to buzz. These are said items of interest:

      -In recent new, the Inuits of Canada have apparently reached out to NASA, as well as other organizations, with the claim that the Earth has shifted in some way, or as they put it, “wobbled”, and that their “sky has changed”, creating difficulty in hunting, navigating and other areas of survival that depend on nature.

      -IFL Science recently put out an article stating evidence is currently suggesting that a pole reversal is imminent.

      -Various news and media references to the continuity of our species, leaving Earth in case of a catastrophe, and colonizing other planets being absolute necessary to our survival.

      -An interview regarding the launch of the Orion spacecraft was conducted with, I believe it was from memory, an MSNBC affiliate (I don’t remember his name of the top of my head), and when asked about the mission, he made one clear point. The Orion program is THE mission for the survival of the human race, once again a media reference to having to leave the planet as a means of saving humanity. He goes into more detail, but that was his response in a nutshell.

      -Obvious changes in the weather on Earth, as well as throughout the Solar System. For example, the surface temperatures on all of the planets in the Solar System have been rising.

      -The unusual amount of news and media references to “humanity uniting in response to an extraterrestrial threat”. This may be something all on it’s own, but I am mentioning this because a lot of this COULD be PREDICTIVE PROGRAMMING of some kind. Whether it’s disclosure on the horizon, a false flag alien invasion, or the actual passing of Nibiru, the mainstream media, and alternative media, keep talking about these particular topics. A LOT as of late, to the point that I really took notice to it.

      Of course, this could ALL be coincidence, incorrectly interpreted, and nothing could be happening at all. However, it’s always good to do your research and homework.

      • LifeIs

        The pole reversal, already in progress, is a magnetic pole reversal. Just to be clear, the axis shift is something else.

    • rustywhite

      Please…Please…stop with all the doomsday stuff…
      It isn’t gonna happen in your lifetime and people have been spewing this crap for 2000 years….
      Calm down..everything is okay and there is no calamity that is gonna hit tomorrow.

      Sit down and take a deep breath and have a drink and just be happy that you get to see all the stuff going on in the world right now.

      Are you not amazed at the fact you can get all the info you might desire from a little bitty hand held device? You can make money in the market, sell your home, get a prostitute or look at pictures of Mars from a frigging hand held device…..Is that not amazing enough for you?…Do you really need to throw in all the doomsday crap?

      Enjoy it while you are here…There have been “trillions” of others that have passed through this life and didn’t count on clicks to make their day.

      Have a holly jolly christmas……dammit….

      peace

      • Anne

        I find it amazing that people like “rustywhite” can walk around this planet and not notice any changes around them. People like this are too busy with there heads looking down onto their electronic devices to see any changes around them. If it’s not the devices,….it is the idiot box they listen to for all their reality. My good god rustywhite, wake up and smell the coffee, there’s more to life than that idiot box(or boxes) you listen to for all your information.
        As much as you don’t want to believe there is another system out there coming our way,……THERE IS, AND IT’S COMING ON A FAST TRAIN whether you like it or not.

        • Mayhem

          Hello Anne: do you have any credible evidence for your claim? Don’t tell me you just feel it in your gut and you expect me to accept that at face value.

        • LifeIs

          Very true, and very true, Anne.

          You know, the center of mass of our solar system is sometimes above the surface of the Sun. Jupiter is that heavy.

          Nibiru is south of us. It is dark, like the small dark comets that rain down upon us every day, unseen until they arrive.

          And it moves the entire solar system. And we’ve seen evidence of the jostling.

          From 2009:

          http://www.gpb.org/news/2009/07/27/scientists-dont-know-whats-causing-freak-tides

          “Marine scientists say, they’re baffled by several weeks of unusually high tides that coastal residents have noticed from Maine to Florida.

          Unusually high tides are not uncommon, but their causes are usually easily identified. Since mid-June, however, scientists have found no credible reason why tides are running a half to two-feet above normal up and down the East Coast.”

          “Skidaway Institute of Oceanography professor Jack Blanton says:

          ‘We don’t have those kinds of winds right now…This is happening despite the winds”‘

        • Mayhem

          Those unusual tides were five years ago, Lifels, and they returned to normal in very short order. We’d need to discount the effect of the moon, kabatic wind and proximal undersea volcano. The short article in your link only mentioned the wind so what do we really know? It is credible evidence i keep asking for, this is not it but nice try.

        • LifeIs

          That’s a lot of wrong in one paragraph, Mayhem.

          1. The effects of the Moon and the Sun on the tides are well known. (You did know both bodies were involved, right?)

          (And did you know the Earth also produces tides? The Earth and Moon orbit their common center of mass, which is inside the Earth. There is a high tide under the Moon, and there is a high tide on the opposite side of the Earth….

          Thus you see how any jostling of our solar system can affect the tides….it affects the balance of forces.

          2. Katabatic winds (not kabatic) flow downhill, by gravity.

          A weather system that produces a 6 inch to 2 foot storm surge, from Maine to Florida, would be observed.

          Especially if it lasts for 6 weeks.

          3. Undersea volcanoes, “proximal” or not, do not produce weeks of tide surges.

          There is a whole chain of undersea volcanoes down the middle of the North Atlantic. They don’t change the tides.

          4. “Returned to normal in short order” does not describe abnormally high tides from mid-June to the end of July, when – the article said – they “appear to be diminishing.”

          That’s 6 weeks or so.

          5. Five years ago a force unknown to atmosphere and ocean science pushed the North Atlantic a bit to the west. For six weeks or more.

          And that should have been big news.

          A planet — or brown dwarf — that swings by every 10,000 years or so –is not going to be encountered every year. And the way it jostles our Sun and the planets is not going to be noticeable every year.

        • Mayhem

          Thanks for correcting my spelling and for taking my bait. I’ll grant that i can’t explain this occurring, especially for so long, but why did it stop? Did Nibiru retreat? That’s how it should work, amiright, the effects would increase as Nibiru got nearer? Unless something has changed in Physics that i’ve not heard about.

          1) Yes; i know what king tides are.

          2) Katabatic winds are high pressure, or dense if you will, and are most definitely capable of moving a heap of water. Yes; they flow due to gravity.

          3) Did i make up “proximal”? My bad, did you catch my drift? Volcano’s warm water and warm water is bigger than cold water.

          4) Why did the tides return to normal and how?

          5) Conspiracies really lost their effect when the interweb came about. You’re shipping me that an angular anomaly was kept under wraps.

          What’s up with your conclusion, Lifels? It sounds like you’re saying Nibiru has been and gone and it’ll be back in 10,000 yrs. I thought it was on a 3,600 yr circuit, but whatever.

        • LifeIs

          1. No, you are still wrong in your theory that winds caused the higher tides.

          That was ruled out. By the scientists who had the weather and wind information.
          Ruled out conclusively, because as I said, a weather system doing that would be observed doing that.

          And the “high pressure” of katabatic winds is at the surface. Because the air is descending. Due to gravity. And piling up at the surface.

          2. No, you are still wrong in your theory that volcanoes could have done it.

          If anything heated the North Atlantic enough to raise the water level by TWO FEET,
          it would be observed.

          By which I mean, the ocean, the currents, the weather, and everything else would
          be altered. Beyond recognition.

          And the raised water level would be everywhere, not just along one coast.

          And the source of the heat would be very very obvious.

          3. No, you are wrong in your theory that the effects would be permanent, or
          recurring even, if our planet’s angular momentum is altered by another planet.

          But thanks for reminding me — if the ocean sloshes to one side, as it did in this case,
          it should slosh back the other way…in a standing wave…

          Back and forth.

          And if it’s not sloshing all the way over to Europe and North Africa, then by golly
          a force is stopping it from doing so.

          4. The higher water levels stopped, because the force that was generating them stopped.

          5. You misread what I said. The long orbital period of Nibiru means it cruises by
          in a leisurely way.

          If Nibiru were stationary, relative to the Sun, we would make our closest approach every year on schedule. But Nibiru is moving. And we don’t know exactly where it is.
          So, we cannot know how many years will pass, between our last and our next approach.

          And because we don’t know where it is exactly, we cannot predict how Nibiru will move the Sun. (As Jupiter moves the Sun.)

          And what Nibiru does to the Sun, Nibiru is doing to us, indirectly.

          6. Oh, YES, there are orbital anomalies, kept under wraps, and here is the proof.

          http://www.space.com/3159-global-warming-pluto-puzzles-scientists.html

          http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=469dd8f9-802a-23ad-4459-cc5c23c24651

          And here is what you need to know to understand why the increased heat means
          a change in angular momentum.

          http://www.halexandria.org/dward118.htm

          ‘A plot of total angular momentum of a planet or solar system against the total amount of internal energy being radiated into space, results in a “striking linear dependence which seems to hold across a range of luminosity and momentum totaling almost three orders of magnitude.”’

          “a celestial object’s total internal luminosity seems dependent upon only one physical parameter, it’s total system angular momentum (the celestial body, plus all orbiting satellites”

          7. Now that you have proof of angular momentum changes — evidenced by temperature changes, as far from the Sun as Pluto…

          Now that you have proof that Earth is affected, by 6 weeks of high water levels
          along the Atlantic coast of the United States…..

          You can finally face reality.

        • LifeIs

          P.S. Before you parrot the line that “scientists say the warming is caused by the Sun,”
          note that Pluto disproves that.

          Pluto began warming 13 years after its closest approach to the Sun in 1989.

          Pluto has warmed dramatically while moving away from the Sun. It is getting less sunlight as it moves away.

          Pluto’s atmospheric pressure has tripled in 14 years. Due to increased temperature.

          Attempts to explain away these facts are ludicrous:

          The missing heat was hidden for 13 years. It bypassed the atmosphere and hid itself.
          And then stopped hiding itself.

          And my favorite, the axis of Pluto is nearly lined up with the orbital plane. So, the heat stayed out of our sight. Somehow. And then stopped being out of our sight. Somehow. Trust us, we’re experts.

        • Mayhem

          Having, only, said that those possibilities needed to be considered and ruled out i don’t quite get why you’re arguing, Lifels. Did i not capitulate as to the cause of this strange anomaly?

          Sun and Moon, combined, does so produce King tides. Katabatic winds can so cause water to pile up on the shore. The worlds largest volcano is under water, we only recently found it, and it’s popped during our recorded history without us noticing.

          If Nibiru continues to approach why are it’s effects not seasonal, in line with the heliocentric perihelion aspect? Or even global, for that matter? ? I get that you want to claim the distance changes by approximately 200,000,000 miles over a 6 month period, explaining away the waxing and waning, so lets put that to the side.

          Nibiru is supposed to be coming from the south, whatever that means with regard to planetary orbits, isn’t it? So we should be approaching our closest proximity in the next 2 weeks and while we’re waiting to notice any effects we can ponder why these tidal anomalies didn’t occur in any of the four years between then and now.

        • LifeIs

          1. No, Mayhem, YOU said your ideas were plausible explanations for THIS event.

          And no scientist in the world agrees. You need to show water temperature data, if you want to claim ocean heating. You need to point to a weather system, if you want to blame winds.

          You won’t find any evidence of those things.

          2. You’re not understanding the whole “Nibiru is south of us” idea.

          Picture the rings of Saturn. Now picture the recently discovered OTHER rings of Saturn, at a 60 degree angle.

          At times the debris in the outer rings is south of the plane of the regular rings.

          Picture our galaxy. Now picture the recently discovered OUTER band of stars, at a 60 degree angle.

          At times the stars in the outer band are south of the galactic plane.

          We have inferred that Nibiru’s orbit is south of us. Because the near-infrared South Pole Telescope looks at the southern sky. And because Russian intelligence personnel were visitors there.

          And because the IRAS satellite observed it in the Orion constellation.

          And because the Lucifer instruments of VATT can see some of the southern sky from Mt. Graham.

          (Verifiable facts there.)

          And because we hear plausible stories of military personnel flying non-stop from the US to Antarctica, for work with the near-infrared instrument, and of being secretive while there. And, there is a plausible leaked story that the planet is in the southern sky.

          3. You didn’t get ANY details about where Nibiru is, or exactly what its orbit is, from me. I don’t have that information.

          I did tell you we have all been affected, since at least 2002. When Pluto, 13 years after perihelion,
          moving away from the Sun, started getting hotter. Hotter by three and a half degrees.

          And that temperatures increased all over the solar system.

          And that a planet’s own internal heat varies in exact proportion to its angular momentum

          (That is, the angular momentum of the planet and its moons together.)

          To within 3 decimal places.

          Which tells you the angular momentum of the solar system has increased.

          You have also seen the North Atlantic pile up against the east coast of the US, you’ve seen increased numbers of big earthquakes, you’ve seen increased volcanic activity.

          I don’t know how many tide anomalies there have been. The one I mentioned got virtually no publicity.

          We do occasionally see reports of anomalous readings from tsunami warning buoys.

          Here is a sample, first from 2013

          http://www.rogueplanetsurvival.com/2013/11/19/tsunami-buoys-turned-off-around-the-world/

          now from 2009

          http://abundanthope.net/pages/Ron_71/Is-the-Coral-Sea-bed-rising-Is-Lemuria-returning_printer.shtml

          “‘… as at 23rd sep 2009 Station 55023 was recording an ocean depth of 4593; this stayed same +/- tides until 5th of April 2010 (Inc 9999′s, faulty data).

          ‘I rang government yesterday while bouy was in active mode.

          All of sudden data is removed and bouy reset.

          now the (depth/pressure) shows 4413.

          Where is the missing data from the 5th til 12th ????

          Why was the data removed?’”

          now from 2012

          http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tsunami-buoy-53046-evidence-of-indo-australian-plate-tilting?overridemobileredirect=1&id=3863141%3ABlogPost%3A908734&page=25

          You get the idea. There are more.

          YOU said Nibiru is “coming from the south” and “approaching its closest proximity in 2 weeks,” which is not anything like anything I’ve ever said.

        • Mayhem

          You do know that the galactic plane is two dimensional don’t you? The galaxy exists in 4 dimensions and is viewed in 3 of them. They’re not the same thing you know? I would accept above or below but i haven’t a clue how compass points come into it.

          Yes, Lifels, they are plausible explanations for this anomaly and only the length of the event make any of them unlikely. Given you are clearly not reading what i write i’ll leave you to your imagination.

          Till next time, be well.

        • LifeIs

          In our solar system, south is the direction relative to the ecliptic plane that Earth’s south pole
          points in the general direction of.

          The galaxy has a comparable plane and the designations “north” and “south” are arbitrary and interchangeable.

          It’s a way to picture the situation in your head, not a way to navigate a space ship.

          There are no explanations for the June-July 2009 Atlantic coast tide anomalies. That is why they are referred to as unexplained, by oceanologists.

    • Andoron

      The alleged picture of Nibiru, is an old from the days of “Comet Elenin.” Plagiarism at its finest.

    • Pink Slime

      Lot of people don’t realize when the aliens return they will laugh at us that what we keep at Fort Knox is alien poo found all across the universe.

    • Paris

      “Why? Because the scientists who have opened their big mouths made it clear it was coming from the south this time around and not coming in on the eliptic, where it has in the past and done an enormous amount of damage.”

      I’m not saying there is a inbound object, but I am familiar with what the ancients wrote about it and I can tell you that they said this object has always come from the southern hemisphere and never on the elliptic. Sounds like they’re up to their usual tricks of spreading disinfo to muddy the waters. Piece of advice to anyone who is interested in this…read the Kolbrin Bible and the works of Immanuel Velikovsky and forget all of these lying disinfo agents who are supposedly leaking information. Trust me, the elite don’t leak anything they don’t want your to hear. They leak this crap and then they sit back and laugh at you all.

      • Mayhem

        There’s not many that live further south than us Kiwi’s, listen up for the shout out if the overdue 10th rock ever makes an appearance.

    • medtes

      “NIBIRU” becomes a synonym of “ridicule”, a very smart CIA tactic to discredit those who figure out what is happening, as they have always done with” conspiracy theories”, an other term created by them, like “the polar vortec”, disinformation, a methodic repetitive lie…who said” make a lie, keep repeating it, and they(the people) will eventually believe it”?

      • Mayhem

        At least we’re not calling each other “deniers” :grin:

        • medtes

          There’s a kind of contradiction surrounding you… how an erudite like you doesn’t have at least a doubt? unless you CHOOSE to show on purpose that you have no doubt at all (that nibiru doesn’t exist)? why WORKING so hard to discredit every believer?

        • Mayhem

          Erudite? Hardly, but thank you for the compliment, medtes. If i have anything of value to say it is not from me; for all wisdom and knowledge comes from the Father, Yahweh, Elohim of Hosts.

          I’ll admit that your ad hominem is gentle but I would rather you focused on the subject rather than me. All good?

          Now then: i have never claimed that Nibiru is not possible only that there is no credible evidence for it. Do you have any? And my style/schtick serves a purpose but you’ll have to guess what that is.

    • One_of_2

      Is it just me…. or does all of these people, who love to attack one’s religion, really need a hug?!?!
      I think that it is absolutely delicious, how people will inevitably prove the truth of ancient prophesies, simply through their own anti-dogmatic veracity. Religion, as it pertains to an actual organization, is utterly littered with fault…. however this fact does not remit, the truth of the prophet(s) upon which it is based.

      I think it is completely hilarious, when people today are so quick to claim their atheism, and attack those whom posses true faith…. yet these same people are always the first, to blame God, when their lives don’t go exactly as they want it to. God does not create the hell, which humans have created for themselves. This would counteract the very foundation of freewill. Human have been given freewill, to either make the rope to ascend to a higher self…. or to make the noose to hang themselves.

      • Big dog.../small fish...

        Great comment!

    • Robert Mack

      It is difficult for me to comprehend how anybody can get through the first two minutes of Hagmann & Hagmann or anybody else. Look, we know who you are, know what you do, just get to the point of your message without your self-indulgences. Get over yourselves – no wonder you haven’t gotten more listeners into your program. I remember Chuck Wilder having Marilyn McGruder Barnewall on his program – took him ten minutes each time she was on just to stroke her over-inflated ego with her self-centered resume. Nobody wants to listen to you because you come across as a delusional fruitcake overly absorbed with yourselves. As for all the underground tunnels and places of refuge, if you believe in scripture (which I do), violent earthquakes are prophesied – people will beg for the mountains to fall upon them. Would I want to be inside one of these underground shelters? LOL – not on your life. It’s nothing more than a massive tomb – I want to see the might, power, and glory of our Father when He comes, Amen!

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