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The Rapture: The Greatest Upheaval Of The Natural World

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No event that has ever occurred will be more spectacular than the Rapture of the saints. On every front it will defy the wildest imagination of men. Most of this world laughs at the idea of the supernatural powers of God and discounts the possibility. The Book of Genesis’ account of creation has mostly been replaced with some form of natural evolution, even by the church world. But this glorious Rapture will occur and it will be shock and awe. The earth’s population at the time of this event will never forget the display of power and the change it will create.

Nature, as it is presently understood, will begin the process of being totally altered. The physical realm between heaven, the earth, and beneath the earth will be completely changed. Presently there is a gulf or separation between these separate entities, but that appears to vanish almost immediately. The many events during the Seven Years of the Great Tribulation will bring God’s world back to a form of openness similar to what we see in the Genesis picture of creation. The Spirit/spirit world, both from above and beneath, will be open on the earth.

Saints in Heaven will be directly involved in events on the earth. Evil spirits will arise out of the deep and do great harm to the wicked population. The evil characters which are portrayed in a growing number of films, books, and games are Satan’s preparation to make you comfortable with his “coming world order.”

Not only is the Rapture an incredible display of Holy Ghost power, it is a picture of nature as we now know it turned on its head. Of course, what really occurs is that even nature is going to be redeemed and the new natural world will be completely transformed to a pure and transcending one. The Rapture is actually the beginning of this exploding process. Isaiah saw this picture and prophesied of it occurring. Look at his words of hope, “Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.” (Isaiah 26:19-21)

When you consider that the natural results of sin is death and the complete decay of those dead bodies and then we look at the graves losing all power against the righteous dead, it presents a new day. The dust of decayed dead bodies appears to start singing while the resurrection is occurring. When you understand that our DNA, as now understood by scientists, has proven that each cell of a body has the entire code for that entire body, it is not hard to believe this Scripture.

We now see the earth as capturing the body of the dead and returning it to dust, but Isaiah saw the future when the earth “shall cast out the dead.” The whole earth was created to be a supernatural world, but sin reduced nature to be a slave to death. When that slavery is broken, even the earth will echo the praises of God just as Heaven now is filled with His praises. This prophecy by Isaiah is just a little picture of how all creation is going to become a source of His divine will instead of a cursed place. It begins at the Rapture, but will be completed by the end of the Tribulation Period when Jesus returns to set up His kingdom.

Isaiah’s prophecy shows clearly that the entire picture of sin will be changed during this period. People are able to hide sin for a season and appear to escape its consequences. Blood is often split and some people never get caught but that day ends at the Rapture. I repeat the words, “The earth also shall disclose her blood and shall no more cover her slain.” That’s breathtaking truth, my friends. When the “Lord comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants (the wicked) of the earth,” there will be no more hiding. It is said that even the natural earth will “no more cover her slain.” As earth experiences redemption, it will refuse to be a hiding place for the wicked. It was said concerning the wickedness which Israel faced when conquering the promise land “that the earth vomited out the inhabitants.”

This pure earth will become so delightful that “the reapers will overtake the sowers.” The curse with which our earth is presently defined, is already showing desperate signs of travail. Apostle Paul spoke of this to the Romans.“Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.” (Romans 8:21-23)

When you harmonize statesman Isaiah’s prophecy with Apostle Paul’s inspiration, you see an emerging picture of a new world. It is a world where sin is so unwelcome that even nature exposes its rebellion. The Scripture states clearly, “… the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.” (Isaiah 11:9) It also states that nature refuses rain for anyone that does not properly worship the King of Kings. (Zechariah 14:17) This old earth is very soon to be a praise to its Creator.

All Wicked Spirits will be exposed and judged. The world of fallen angels is soon to be utterly opened and revealed for this world to experience and witness as they are judged. The Rapture removes the saints that have been faithful overcomers and Godly in their lifestyle so the world can be exposed to God’s perfect wrath and judgment. The very central events of the seven years of wrath will be against Satan and his horde of wicked spirits. They must become visible for the world to see so their destruction can be plain and known to all.

Hell in the heart of the earth is presently a prison of the wicked, including demons bound for the past millenniums When the gates between the abode of these diabolical creatures and earth are flung wide, no one will doubt the depth in which Satan’s army has fallen. These creatures chose to leave their abode of righteousness and praise to the great God and to follow Satan in his pride and rebellion. There is no bottom to sin and this crowd will represent the worst of the evil one. As they are turned loose on this planet, they will cause the earth to be become a wasteland of immorality and brutality. The Rapture of the saints actually prepares the earth by removing the “Bride in waiting” and the restraining powers of the Holy Ghost. This removal opens the door for the revelation and the manifestation of the wicked one.

Apostle Paul describes this preparation for wickedness.“That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.” (II Thessalonians 2:2-8)

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    • Truthseeker

      If I understand you correctly, God taking dead people from the grave to the third heaven so the wrath of God will not hurt them,,, will be the greatest event ever.

      The Bible I read when talking about the return of Jesus Christ to earth to take up the reigns of the government of God and rule with the rod of iron, will be a display of spiritual power over 24 hours. The few remaining members of the human race will collapse in total fear.

      God, who hangs trillions and trillions of planets, suns and solar systems in space and give them the energy to burn so bright it makes our sun a tiny a single match, when He sends His Son back do you not think this is the defining moment of creation? Besides the rapture is created by satan to cause disappointment and division.

      You, because you are so special, will not have to endure until the end as all those of God have done since the beginning?? You need not suffer as did Christ, as did Isaiah, or the Apostles?

      • AlmostOver

        :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

      • Pharisees.org

        The Bible you read ALSO states as John Rolls reports, which means bibles HAVE CONTRADICTORY writings in them! Four bibles (Catholic, Orthodox, Ethiopian and Protestant), which vary in number of writings because men disagree on what is and what is not a writing of God. In all four bibles, however, are 21 writings of Pharisees and only 6 writings of Jews of the Lord in the new testament section.

        /alternative/2013/05/no-conscience-of-sin-2660738.html
        /spirit/2013/01/forgeries-1-peter-2-peter-2474908.html
        /global-unrest/2013/03/bible-lies-2454350.html

        John Rolls is a child of Hell convert to the doctrine of Pharisee Paul, as are many. One can worship their bible if they want, instead of worshiping Christ. Can’t worship both because to say Bibles are all the word of God is to call Christ a liar, for Christ said Pharisees are of Satan and NEVER go to Heaven (John 8:44, Matthew 5:20, 23:15, 23:33). Yet, the fools, like John Rolls, believe Pharisee Paul made a liar out of Christ.

        /spirit/2013/03/pharisees-are-never-of-god-2475764.html

    • am123

      If you are a novice Christian, do not fall for the trap of a pre-tribulation rapture. While all hell is literally about to break loose, the trap is thinking you will have an easy way out of it. It is in Satan’s interest to have you fall for this trap. Thinking that Jesus will rapture you out of here before all hell breaks loose will only make you cannon fodder for the Devil and his forces when all hell does break loose. Is the so-called Church ready for martyrdom today? No they are not. They are not ready to stand in their faith against the ravages of the beast. Do not be misled by what someone says the Bible says. Read the Bible for yourself. Read the 24th chapter of Matthew and you’ll see that Jesus comes for the Church after the tribulation period. Read the Book of Revelation and you’ll see that Jesus calls us to a patient and enduring faith during the time of the antichrist. We are entering the time period the Bible warned us about, the time the world of the dead will open its mouth wide for. The body of Christ should be in boot camp bracing and strengthening themselves in the LORD, preparing for all-out war, the war of all wars. But instead, the so-called Church is ill prepared for what will soon envelop the whole world because of this false hope of being raptured out of here before the tribulation period. They are oblivious to the sounds of war in the heavenlies and prepare not for what is about to happen. Because they have not studied the Scriptures, they will be sitting ducks for the enemy to take out. They will fall pitifully short in their destinies, to what God has called them to.

      Do not listen to these false teachers who unwittingly lay a trap for you. Soon, when the sons of God are revealed and the Book of Revelation plays out on the world stage, everyone on earth will know what it means to be living in the end times and what their options are.

      If you are a sheep that has been misled by a false teacher regarding a pre-tribulation rapture, I bid you now to cut out this nonsense of thinking you won’t be here and run, not walk, but run for cover in the shadow of His wings (see Psalm 91) if you expect to endure until the end, whether the end for you is martyrdom or the Second Coming, which occurs at the end of this age at the final trumpet.

      For Biblical proof to see why the pre-tribulation rapture (and this article) is deception from the Devil :evil: , see:

      “RAPTURE ALERT: Millions of Christians have been deceived!”

      /alternative/2013/02/rapture-alert-millions-of-christians-have-been-deceived-2561260.html

      The great irony is Christians who have been deceived by the pre-tribulation rapture are the ones who will be “left behind” :sad: as the true Church executes the glorious plan of God :lol: . For more, see:

      “The Sons of God are going to astound the world”

      /alternative/2013/02/the-sons-of-god-are-going-to-astound-the-world-2565258.html

      • wunmansho

        Elijah and Enoch were not raptured. The only thing that MIGHT equate is what Jesus went through.
        Only THE MOST HOLY people might have this happen to them. I dont see them. There might be a few. But they aren’t the ones doing all the talking.

    • am123

      At the heart of Satan’s deception of a pre-tribulation rapture is the misconception that the “restrainer” referred to in the second chapter of 2nd Thessalonians, who is holding things back, is the Holy Spirit. This restrainer that Paul talks about is not the Holy Spirit, it is the unholy spirit, or Satan. Look at the language Paul uses. The one holding back the secret power of lawlessness will continue to do so until “he is taken out of the way”. It is not a voluntary thing—he is forcibly removed. The Antichrist is Satan’s “trump card”, his last resort. If you are in a war and you are wise and cunning, then you do not use your last resort before it is time to do so. The world today is full of corruption and evil. It would be foolish of Satan and not necessary for him to use his best weapon or last resort in a world where he is pretty much having his way. But that will change when Christians unite and become the true Church. As the Church realizes its part in the end times and comes together in love and grows and matures and starts walking in the true power of Christianity, doing the things Jesus did and even greater things, reaping the great end time harvest in the greatest revival the world has ever known, and as they pull down strongholds of the enemy all over the place, then the overcoming Church, as personified by the man child of Revelation 12:5, will win the victory over the Devil by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony and Satan will be cast down from heaven—he will be taken out of the way. Paul knew there was coming a time when the Church would be victorious over Satan as described in Revelation 12:7-12. This onslaught against the powers and principalities of darkness will back Satan into a corner, forcing him to play his trump card, or use his best weapon, his last resort. It is at the very beginning of Revelation 13 that the beast arises. So it is Satan who is the restrainer who must be taken out of the way in heaven and then the Antichrist will be revealed.

    • wunmansho

      All the world – both above and below – is a stage. Satan knows he can’t win. He can only steal while he awaits his fate. His ‘job’ has always been to do one thing – tempt mankind

    • Louis

      Mr. Rolls is confused. There is not going to be any pre-trib “rapture.” The “rapture” theory is pure Protestant heresy. But there will be a miraculous “holy age” when peace, bounty and holiness fill the earth for an extended period of time. It will arrive after Antichrist is slain by plasma lightning storms during the Three Days of Darkness. All this is clearly spelled out in Holy Scripture. In the Book of Apocalypse, there are three distinct references to the period of darkness. Three days of darkness was also one of the plagues that fell on ancient Egypt. It happened before, and it will happen again, but on a grander scale. I might also mention that the earth has become surrounded by a blanket of ionized solar plasma 80,000 miles thick — the stuff lightning is made of. The blanket is growing at the rate of around 15,000 miles per year.

    • Anonymous

      There’s one wild card: if the Rapture occurs after the coming economic collapse and millions die from starvation during that time it’s possible that the Rapture would go unnoticed.

    • Anonymous

      It’s clear that Jesus has to return twice. He returns as a thief when no one knows he’s coming and he leaves with believers. The second time he comes at the end of the tribulation at a time when everyone knows he’s coming and every eye will see Him even those who pierced Him.

      Satan has a war against the pre-trib Rapture. He doesn’t want people to live for God today. He wants them to continue to live sinful lives. Since we know Jesus could return at any moment we need to live 100% committed to Him for whatever time we have remaining. And that was the thinking of the early church.

      • HumanBeing

        Agree. But it’s a pity the OP never, ever sticks around to defend his posts; he leaves that to others, who are always lynched by people who either hate Jesus or hate the thought of him not allowing us to suffer the wrath of God as opposed to the wrath of Satan and man that Christians have always had to suffer. I wonder what they’ll do for fun when we’re gone? They won’t have anyone to mock. ;-)

      • am123

        You said:

        “He returns as a thief when no one knows he’s coming and he leaves with believers.”

        To the contrary. Jesus doesn’t return as a thief to those who know he’s coming. Jesus said believers will know when it is right at the door (see Matthew 24:33). Christians should not be taken by surprise:

        1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
        2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
        3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
        4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
        5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
        6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
        7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
        8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
        9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
        —1 Thessalonians 5:1-9

        No matter how you cut it, a pre-tribulation rapture is negated by this parable where the weeds, not the wheat, are gathered up first and burned:

        24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
        25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
        26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
        27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
        28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
        29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
        30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
        —Matthew 13:24-30

        • Truthseeker

          What is referred to is I Thessalonians 5: 2.

          What is said: “For yourselves know perfectly the the Day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night:”

          Christ is saying the “Day of the Lord”, the last year of the 3 1/2 years, comes as a thief in the night. Christ returns at the end of that one year of the Wrath of God. i.e. the 6th & 7th Seal.

          The whole house of Israel will have been in captivity for 2 1/2 years and the Saints of God will have been at war with the Beast Power for that same 2 1/2 years.

          The Beast power and the other gentile powers will never see the 6th Seal coming, the Heavenly signs is God’s intervention to stop satan from killing every last human on earth.
          The Wrath of God is His punishment poured out upon gentiles, not the 12 tribes of Jacob.
          The majority of God’s Saint are of the 12 tribes, not the gentiles, Christ sent the Apostles to the lost house of Israel.

          I do not understand, the Bible speaks only to resurrections never to rapture. If a rapture were to be true then what is Jesus Christ talking about in Revelation 20:4, 5 ???
          He speaks of the First Resurrection? And if there is A “First” logic demands at least a 2nd.

          Will Christ raise from death the very same Saints twice??? Will He return to earth twice in such power the mind of man can not even comprehend?

          Jesus Christ will return at the last trump – the 7th trump of the 7 trumps which is the 7th Seal.

          the very last of the Wrath of God is poured out as the Seven Last Plagues which is the 7th or last trump. Read, as the 7th vial is poured out the heavens open and a Great Voice thunders
          “IT IS DONE” . Then Christ returns and the First Resurrection occurs.

      • AlmostOver

        Fools believe that “His return” will be anything other than in Spirit and Truth. Fools believe that Yeshua does not = the Law. Fools believe that “His return” will be in the form of some magical mystical miraculous appearing of a man showing up from outer space and because this is what they are watching for and hoping to see, they will never know Him. Yeshua = the Law, His “return” is in Spirit; It is the returning to the Law by all nations, kindreds, tongues, and peoples… THAT is His “return”. People turning to the Law who never once picked up a bible or attended church, people becoming so fed up with man’s law and man’s system that they end up rejecting it fully, and seeking to harmonize with Nature, living according to Natural Law(the Word that governs Nature). It will be a spiritual revolution and it will be the greatest day for the earth and its allies and it will be a terrible day for its enemies. When the Spirit of the Law sweeps over the whole earth, it will be a consuming fire and a great war will be concluded; the ages old war between “God” and man, Right and wrong, Natural and unnatural, Good and evil, etc. Church folks do not understand the Spirit of the prophecies because they are not guided by the Spirit of the Law, they have not tasted of the good things that come from “God”, so to speak, and so they misunderstand the finite words which contain Infinite Truth; they misinterpret the words of the prophets which were projected in tangible form in order to describe the intangible reality of what is to come, what is now, and what has already been. Religious folk spend way too much time studying these things that they cannot understand without the Spirit and because of this, they lead themselves and each other into ditches. Had they chosen to walk according to the Law and to dedicate their lives to understanding Its depths, they would be guided by the Spirit and they would have clear understanding of the words of prophecy. Rather, they reject the Law(some seek to keep it’s letter, superficially, rather than in Spirit and Truth) and dedicate themselves to the study of the finite words of the prophets, never to come to an understanding of the Infinite.

        Forget everything that you’ve ever heard, read, been taught, or made to believe, FORGET IT ALL, and turn from your wickedness to His Righteousness(the Law), Learn its depths and walk according to it and He will open up your understanding to the Truth. Turn to the Law before your heart and mind becomes completely hardened against it, because if that happens, there will never be any hope for you.

    • Pix

      Oh shut up and get on with it already. Cant wait till the giant invisible fairy story character gets out its giant invisible vacuum cleaner to suck up all the Christians. Good riddance to bad rubbish. The meek inherit the Earth…. atheists.

      :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

      • AlmostOver

        Lol atheists are FAR from meek… but so am I. The meek inheriting the earth are those that are not involved in the war between Natural and unnatural yet they live according to Nature’s Law worshiping Nature’s “God”; that is, they live according to their purpose, fully keeping the Law. They are not those who speak up boldly against the corruption and error, but rather those who choose to live opposed to those things, the quiet and humble ones who live and let live. Those are the meek. You and I are not the meek who are to inherit the earth.

        • Mr A Hole - PHD, BSE, HN51, ADHD hons. DVT HIV

          I’m f’ing meek.

        • Truthseeker

          Meek is not weakness!

          Jesus Christ was the meekest man to walk earth, Moses was the meekest until Christ.

          Christ came to do the will of His Father.

          The definition of meekness; A complete surrender of your will to the will of the Father.

          Christ came and completely fulfilled the will of the Father not His own. “Not My will but Yours”

          Those that DO the will of our Father inherit the earth. Do is a action word!

          Some get meekness confused with nonviolence’s or passiveness, I believe I can get most to agree the Apostles will be in the first resurrection,

          At the last supper Christ asked if any had swords, there were two ! If it was wrong to carry a weapon because we are suppose to be passive and nonviolent, why did they still carry them after 3 1/2 years with Christ?

        • AlmostOver

          :lol: :lol: :lol: Good point!

    • am123

      If you are pursuing the truth about whether the rapture occurs before or after the tribulation period, consider the following:

      Jesus was extremely adamant about warning us not to be deceived in the end times (the times in which we live):

      “And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.”
      —Matthew 24:4

      “For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”
      —Matthew 24:5

      “And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”
      —Matthew 24:11

      “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
      —Matthew 24:24

      Who was Jesus talking to? To the body of Christ of course, to believers.

      We know from the Scriptures that the Antichrist will come with his great magic to deceive people. We also know that anyone who is deceived and receives the mark of the beast will suffer the full wrath of God and will end up in the lake of fire. So it is vital not to be deceived. Hence, we get repeated warnings from Jesus and the Apostles to not allow ourselves to be deceived.

      So I ask this of those Christians pursuing the truth: If Jesus is going to rapture the Church out of here before the Antichrist comes upon the scene, why then did He warn us so adamantly about being deceived? If Christians aren’t going to be around for the great deception, there would be no reason to warn them about it.

      But the truth of the matter is Jesus warned us because we WILL be here during the time of the beast, for Jesus prayed this to the Father:

      “I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.”
      —John 17:15

      The truth is our faith must be strong. We must be able to stand against the wiles of the Devil and his cohorts. If your faith is not firm, you will not be able to stand until the end. And only those who endure until the end will be saved (see Matthew 24:13).

      It is imperative that you study the Scriptures for yourself. Read, pray, and meditate upon the Scriptures. Search the Scriptures diligently and do not rely on what others say for many of them will be, and have been, deceived.

      It would do Christians of today well to consider what one of the greatest scientists of all time, Sir Isaac Newton, said concerning the importance of Christians knowing the end time prophecies. He drew a parallel between how the learned Jews missed the first coming of the Messiah because they were deceived and how it will be no less possible for Christians to be deceived by the Antichrist. He said if God was angry with the Jews for not searching more diligently into the prophecies which He had given them to know Christ by, why should we think He will excuse us for not searching into the prophecies which He has given us to know the Antichrist by? For certainly it must be as easy for Christians to be deceived by the Antichrist as it was for the Jews to reject Christ. And therefore, it is as much our duty to endeavor to be able to know the Antichrist and avoid him as it was the duty of the Jews to know Christ and to follow Him.

      The study of eschatology should be no small matter to Christians today. But sadly, many Christians today, who are Christian in name only, are indifferent to the prophetic Scriptures. Much of their indifference and apathy, which puts them in grave danger, is due to this doctrine of demons known as the pre-tribulation rapture theory. They are not concerned with the Book of Revelation and end times because they believe they won’t be here for it. It is no wonder why Satan has perpetrated this myth. It serves his purposes greatly, for the warnings of Jesus have fallen on millions of deaf ears.

      Indifference to the end time prophecies should not be an option for Christians today. The Antichrist is coming to deceive the whole world if he can. Woe unto those who are not ready.

      • AlmostOver

        @am123

        You know, I think the reason why I enjoy conversing with you more than most is because you tend to refer to the words of Yeshua (according to His ACTUAL disciples, matthew and john) more than any other Paul supporter around here. You know that I put no value on the words of Paul and that I view it as a detriment and stumbling block for anyone else to put value on his words, but you also know that I highly value the words of Yeshua and so I appreciate the things that you have to say because when you speak, you tend to turn folks to His words more than others around here do. It’s almost like folks who support Paul are completely ignorant or even turned off by the words of Yeshua for the most part, with you, it doesn’t quite seem that way.

        • am123

          @AlmostOver,

          Thank you for the compliment. My only agenda is the truth. And Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.

        • Mr A Hole - PHD, BSE, HN51, ADHD hons. DVT HIV

          Both of you are evil evil dangerous people.

    • Anonymous

      Clever but not true. The Bible clearly states the gathering of Saints is to occur AFTER THE TRIBULATION

      • Truthseeker

        If all scripture is assembled and read, the return of Jesus Christ and the first resurrection occur at the end of the Last Trump, the 7th trump. The very last event of the Last Trump is the 7th vial of the Seven Last Plagues is poured out, the heavens open and a great voice proclaims
        IT IS DONE!

        • Truthseeker

          I have a question for all that have commented, what is the true Gospel of Jesus Christ?

          What is the Good News He brought to earth and more specifically to the whole House of Israel?

        • AlmostOver

          “If you will diligently hearken to the voice of the Lord your God, and will do that which is right in His sight, and will give ear to His commandments, and keep all His statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon you, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the Lord that heals you.” – Exodus 15

          “Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins, it shall die. But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, And has not eaten upon the mountains, neither has lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither has defiled his neighbor’s wife, neither has come near to a menstruating woman, And has not oppressed any, but has restored to the debtor his pledge, has spoiled none by violence, has given his bread to the hungry, and has covered the naked with a garment; He that has not given forth upon usury, neither has taken ANY increase, that has withdrawn his hand from iniquity, has executed true judgment between man and man, HAS WALKED IN MY STATUTES, and has kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, says the Lord God. If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that does the like to any one of these things, And that does not any of those duties, but even has eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbor’s wife, Has oppressed the poor and needy, has spoiled by violence, has not restored the pledge, and has lifted up his eyes to the idols, has committed abomination, Has given forth upon usury, and has taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he has done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. Now, lo, if he beget a son, that sees all his father’s sins which he has done, and considers, and does not such like, That has not eaten upon the mountains, neither has lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, has not defiled his neighbor’s wife, Neither has oppressed any, has not withheld the pledge, neither has spoiled by violence, but has given his bread to the hungry, and has covered the naked with a garment, That has taken off his hand from the poor, that has not received usury nor increase, has executed my judgments, has walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live. As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity. Yet say ye, Why? does not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son has done that which is lawful and right, and has kept all my statutes, and has done them, he shall surely live. The soul that sins, it shall die. The son SHALL NOT BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHER, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

          But if the wicked will turn from ALL his sins that he has committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is Lawful and Right, HE SHALL SURELY LIVE AND SHALL NOT DIE. All his transgressions that he has committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he has done he shall live.

          Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? says the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? But when the righteous turns away from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All his righteousness that he has done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he has trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

          Yet you say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, and dies in them; for his iniquity that he has done shall he die.
          Again, when the wicked man turns away from his wickedness that he has committed, and does that which is Lawful and Right, he shall save his soul alive. BECAUSE he considers, and turns away from all his transgressions that he has committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
          Yet says the house of Israel, The way of the Lord is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal? Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, says the Lord God.
          REPENT, and turn yourselves from ALL your transgressions; SO INIQUITY SHALL NOT BE YOUR RUIN. Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby you have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will you die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dies, says the Lord God: wherefore turn yourselves, and live.” – Ezekiel 18

          “When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, you shall surely die; if you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at YOUR hand. Nevertheless, if you warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul. Therefore, O you son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus you speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live?
          Say unto them, As I live, says the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked TURN FROM HIS WAY AND LIVE: turn, turn from your evil ways; for why will you die, O house of Israel? Therefore, son of man, say unto the children of your people,

          The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his TRANSGRESSION: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he TURNS from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sins. When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousness SHALL NOT BE REMEMBERED; but for his iniquity that he has committed, he shall die for it.
          Again, when I say unto the wicked, You shall surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is Lawful and Right; If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; HE SHALL SURELY LIVE, he shall not die. None of his sins that he has committed shall be mentioned unto him: he has done that which is Lawful and Right; he shall surely live.
          Yet the children of your people say, The way of the Lord is not equal: but as for them, their way is not equal. When the righteous turns from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, he shall even die thereby. BUT IF THE WICKED TURNS FROM HIS WICKEDNESS, AND DOES THAT WHICH IS LAWFUL AND RIGHT, HE SHALL SURELY LIVE BECAUSE OF IT. Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O ye house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways.” – Ezekiel 33

          “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon(man’s system). Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what you shall eat, or what you shall drink; nor yet for your body, what you shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
          Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns(they don’t work 9-5); yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much better than they?

          Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? And why do you worry about clothes?
          Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin(they do no labor) And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
          Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O YOU OF LITTLE FAITH? Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) your heavenly Father knows that you have need of all these things.
          But seek first the kingdom of God, and HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS(Law); and all these things shall be added unto you. Do not worry about tomorrow: for the morrow shall worry for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.(saving for the future is evil, taking only what is needed TODAY is Right)” – Matthew 6

          The True Gospel of Yeshua is that if anyone CHOOSES to reject man’s system, law, rule and ways FULLY and embraces Natural Law instead, harmonizing with Nature and living according to the purpose(Will) of the Father, They will have life and have it more abundantly; they will also be free and they will be preserved unto “a thousand generations”; They will have eternal life. But if anyone chooses to reject His Law, and lives not according to the purpose but embraces man’s way, they will be bound in slavery, and subject to all manner of sickness and disease and they will be utterly destroyed BY THEIR OWN DEVICES. The Gospel is about being free, about having peace, love and Life; about Truth, Law and Righteousness; About harmony and balance with Nature; Salvation from the consequences of man’s iniquity; free will, choice and consequence.

        • Truthseeker

          Almostover,

          You have written many words,

          God the Father and Jesus Christ created words, Christ is known as the WORD.

          The Good News Christ brought can be stated very simply:

          The Good News of the Kingdom of God.

          Every problem of mankind began when Adam and Eve rejected the Government of God.
          The message Christ came and did deliver is the Good News that He is coming back as King of kings and Lord of lords to restore the Law and rule with a rod of Iron. Christ will restore earth as the Garden of Eden and man will live in peace.

          Christ began His ministry by proclaiming “Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand”

          God our Father and Jesus Christ have a way with words wouldn’t you say?

        • AlmostOver

          Truthseeker

          Yeshua’s return is a spiritual one, where those who escape the consequences of many generations of sin and wickedness are those who have turned from wickedness to the keeping of the Law in Spirit and in Truth. They are those who will restore the Garden; they are those who will plant seeds and nurture the whole earth back to health BY keeping the Law forever. This is how He will rule in the time to come: by the choices of those who walk according to His Word(Law) out of their own free will. He was once the King over all creation(He is the Law; Word) and His throne will be established once and for all by the willful choice of those who keep His Word and live according to His Will(according to the original purpose) for these are the only ones who will be spared the consequences of many generations of iniquity; these are the only one’s who will have access to the “tree of life” which is a spiritual tree and not a physical one – the will purpose to promote and protect Life in all their deeds BECAUSE they live by the Law. Does that make sense?

        • AlmostOver

          by the way, those were not my words, they were copied directly from the books of Ezekiel and Matthew and cleaned up for easier reading/comprehension.

        • Truthseeker

          AlmostOver,

          You and I are somewhat on the same page. The Bible has very simple meanings and then goes so deep it is over the heads of mankind, only understandable if the Holy Spirit of the Father is within you. That is the way it was designed to be. A man can see the things of God if and when God opens his mind. It is not the mans choice. God calls you or you may not come. The duty of man is to be willing and not reject God.

          My mind was open over 40 years ago and I was shown the plan of God, but I grew no more spiritually until the last very few years. Now the pages of the Bible are open I am seeing into the depth. It was all there I just could not see it.

          You are correct about the Law of God. Christ gave Moses His eternal Holy Spiritual Law in physical form for physical man. When Christ came He returned it to Spirit because it came time for the Family of God to finish the purpose of all creation. Spirit Sons of God.

          You may not understand and you may scream at what is said next: but as in the days of creation when Christ told His creation to be fruitful and multiply after their own kind, God was revealing His purpose for the creation of the heavens and the earth.

          The only purpose for all that was created is to bring forth the God kind. God created angels but they are not created by His Holy Spirit, they are spirit they are eternal but not of the spirit DNA of God the Father not the God kind, if I may use human terminology in a poor attempt to describe spirit.

          Angels can sin, with God that is impossible. Christ is coming back as King of kings bring the Government of God to rule earth, the first fruits (the first small harvest) of God will be resurrected at His coming and will rule with Christ as kings.

          When the WORD walked out of eternity to become a man he freely gave up His Spirit.
          At His resurrection God the Father put His very Spirit in Christ to restore Him. Christ now lives by the exact same Spirit DNA, if you will, as the Father — how else can He be the Father if His Son came not from His very existence.

          Now very soon, at the first resurrection, God the Father will raise His Sons in the very same way. Christ and the Father are ONE and so shall the Saints be ONE with them. All exist by the Holy Spirit of the Father. Jesus Christ is the elder brother of the Sons of God.

          Revelation 3: 9 “Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan which say they are Jews and are not but do lie, behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet and to know that I have loved you”.

          Christ will make humans come and worship the born again Saints, only God can be worshiped.
          Use Christians for the word Jews and it become clearer.

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