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Future Bible Prophecy: “Russia Will Be Fire-Bombed Into Oblivion!”

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Joseph Chambers * Paw Creek Ministries

“PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN IS THE PERFECT IMAGE OF GOG’s CHIEF PRINCE OF MAGOG? PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA’S LOT AND CHOICE IS TO STRENGTHEN AND AID THE FINAL PREPARATION FOR PUTIN’S RISE TO WORLD LEADERSHIP?” If this is true and I believe it is, then we are extremely close to the “WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG”. It would be exciting to watch this coming war from the “MARRIAGE SUPPER IN THE HEAVENLY CITY”.

PRESIDENT PUTIN HAS BEEN A CAREER PART OF THE KGB, RUSSIA CRUEL AND LETHAL SPY AGENCY. Suddenly he is the man of peace and was a leading candidate for the “NOBEL PEACE PRIZE”. The multitudes of persons that his very acts have caused to die would be striking news. Some say his wealth in at the 60 to 70 billion mark, second only to Bill Gates. Everything about his acumen would suggest he is fully capable of being the Chief Prince that rules Magog and leads the vast horde toward Jerusalem. Let’s consider some very potent facts that show that this final time has been years in preparation.

1. American people have had an undying love affair with Jerusalem and the Jewish people.
2. The only American’s that dislike the Jewish people are those that reject the literal Word Of God.
3. America and Russia have always been on different wave lengths concerning Israel.
4. Spiritual wickedness in the high places is determined to destroy America’s support for Israel.
5. The liberal church world believes that the Jews are imposters in the land of Abraham.
6. Russian politicians love Israel’s technologies and farming wealth and will attempt to soon claim both.
7. Russia is committed to Islam’s regimes that hate Israel with an undying hatred.
8. A transformed believer will always love Israel.
9. Look at the Nations that hate Jerusalem or want to give it to Islam.
10. Notice how President Obama has sought the friendship of Israel’s worst enemies.
11. Churches are identifying with Islam because they have more in common with them than Bible Christianity. All of this is an awesome picture.

“And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel.” (Ezekiel 38: 16-19) When the vast coalition led by Russia and Iran marches, the God of the Holy Bible will say, “It is enough.”

There is little question but that Gog and Magog are the Soviet Union, the ancient land of the Scythians. There is a great display of Scythian art, history, and archaeological discoveries in the Hermitage Museum of Saint Petersburg. Note this statement by Dr. Onyshkevych. “Russian explorers first brought Scythian artworks recovered from Scythian burial mounds to Peter the Great in the early eighteenth century. These works formed the basis of the collection held by the Hermitage Museum in Saint Petersburg. Catherine the Great was so impressed by the material recovered from the Kurgan’s burial mounds, that she ordered a systematic study be made of the works. However, this was well before the development of modern archaeological techniques.”

Another connections between the Scythians and the land of Russia says, “Recent digs in Belsk, Ukraine uncovered a vast city believed to be the Scythian capitol Gelonus described by Herodotus. … A Kurgan … south of Kiev, found in the 1990s, has revealed one of the few unlooted tombs of a Scythian Chieftain.” This gives us ample proof of the connection in history.

It is very interesting that an author of Iranian and Muslim background has written a book called, “An Islamic View of Gog and Magog in the Modern World.” Here is a quotation from its opening section. “There is a ban on a town (Jerusalem) which we destroyed (and whose people were then expelled) that they can never return (to reclaim that town) until Gog and Magog are released and they spread out in all directions (thus taking control of the world while establishing a Gog and Magog world-order.)” When the enemy tries to imitate truth they always prove truth.

This prophecy of the War of Gog and Magog is set in absolute terms and with many connections. Ezekiel stated, near the beginning of this prophecy, “After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.” (Ezekiel 38:8) There is no other historic time that matches this statement.

This time of fire is absolutely necessary to change the mindset that nothing is wrong and nothing offends God. At no place in the entire Bible does it make sin and unclean living acceptable. The Bible states, “Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven.” (Genesis 19: 24) Again it says, “So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation.” (Exodus 9:24) When the Israelites murmured against Moses, God acted to show His displeasure. “And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.” (Numbers 11: 1)

The New Testament writers had no doubt that a judgment of fire was on the way. Apostle Paul warned us, “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (II Thess. 1:8) Apostle Peter brought it closer to the End Times. “But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.” (II Peter 3: 7) Then again he said, “Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat…” (II Peter 3: 12)

The wickedness of this generation is going to be consumed with fire. There is such hatred for anyone that warns others, which clearly says the hour is at hand. It would be impossible for people to have such hatred for truth if there was not a feeling in the air that something is very near and about to happen. Deep in my heart, I know, I have no doubt, that we are living on the brink. “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” (I Thess. 5: 3) The wealth of nations that fight against Jerusalem and Israel is nothing but earthly treasures for God’s fire of wrath.

The coalition of Nations does not leave out any Arab nation except Iraq, where the Anti-Christ will place his seat. It is clear that Iran and other Islamic nations are perfectly ready to destroy another nation of Islam if they refuse to join them.

I believe there are strategy meetings of this coalition that are secretly preparing for the fateful hour. I can imagine in the resort town of Sweineh, Jordan at the Jordan Valley Marriot Resort a delegation from every Arab Nation talking while I write this, and laying out the details. Of course it’s secret but how do you hide from Israeli spies, yet more importantly, how do you hide from the Holy Spirit? The entire “Arab Spring,” as the on-going Middle East developments are called, is nothing but the final details before the action. The Muslim Brotherhood is willing to destroy half of the Middle East if they can finally destroy the Nation of Israel.

God has promised, “And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken.” (Ezekiel 39: 6-8)

Micah saw this same fateful hour and left no doubt that the Lord would reign in Jerusalem at a future date after this great judgment. “But in the last days it shall come to pass, [that] the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it. And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted; And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.” (Micah 4:1-2, 6-7)

Already we have heard Peter quote the great King David, and the prophecies of Isaiah and Micah. Let’s see what the angel said to Mary, the Mother of our Lord. The angel said, to her astonishment, “…behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.” (Luke 1:31-33)

This world is about to see the kind of action from the Creator that will leave no doubt, and all will have to decide. It will be God or the Devil, and no one will have an excuse.

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http://www.pawcreek.org/open-bible-dialog/future-bible-prophecy-russia-will-be-fire-bombed-into-oblivion



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    • King of Shambhala

      Good news. Obama’s revealed to be the Antichrist.

      Spread the good news and you’ll be saved.

      Google: I Proclaim The Apocalypse’s Time. Messiah Show today at 4:55 PM Eastern. 21 October.

      • Lord

        It’s a christan’s favorite past time!
        WAR!

        Let’s all sing together!

        Onward, christan HOARDER!
        Marching off to War (YET AGAIN)!
        And with this battering ram cross
        I’ll come knockin down your door.
        Rape your wife, enslave your kids,
        OH, WHAT FUN IT IS!
        And at the end of the day,
        I’ll go to confession, HEy, HEY, HEY!
        And I’ll go to heaven, ANYWAY!

        Carnot wait to get a piece of you LUNATICS, FOR REAL!

        • Truthseeker007

          LOL!! That sounds about right The Heretic.

    • Louis

      The 38th chapter of the Biblical Book of EZEKIEL explains in detail how God intends to deal with atheistic Russia — whose original name was Mosoch.

      EZEKIEL 38 and APOCALYPSE 14 contain some of the Bible’s scariest Divine threats.

      • Truthseeker007

        Your god is a Zionist.

    • Theoferrum

      Only one problem, genius.

      Gog and Magog is Turkey, not Russia.

      This is why Turkey just finished the Bunnel this very month.

      The Bible predicts the revival of the “Dead Man of Europe” – the Ottomon Empire.

    • KnowMoreThanYou

      Man you guys cannot even get your Bible Stories straight..Seems Christians cannot even agree among themselves what bible text says…In any case, If it would be Russia invading Iraq, That would mean many years from now.Iraq seems to be out of the picture and conflict on the most part of recent events.

    • Theoferrum

      There’s only one problem, genius.

      Gog and Magog are Turkey, not Russia.

      That is why Turkey just opened the Bunnel this very month giving them a commanding control of all Eurasian Commerce.

      The Bible predicts a revival of the “dead man of Europe” called the Ottomon Empire.

    • wizard

      A little quiz. Who am I talking about here?

      He was born on December 25th to a virgin mother; he was called a savior, the only begotten son, and died to save humanity; he was crucified on a Friday “Black Friday” – and his blood was spilled to redeem the Earth; he suffered death with nails and stakes; he was the Father and Son combined in an earthly body; he was put in a tomb, went down into the underworld, but three days later, on March 25th, his body was found to be gone from the tomb and he was resurrected as the “Most High God”; his body was symbolized as bread and eaten by those who worshipped him.’

      Jesus, yes? No, no. All of this was said about the savior Son of God called Attis who was worshipped by the Phrygians, one of the oldest races in Asia Minor, now Turkey, well over a thousand years before the manufacture of “Jesus”. It is just one of countless symbolic deities of whom the same story was told millennia before Christianity.

      • Neo

        This is utter rubbish. What are your sources for this pile? Some people will believe anything

      • LifeIs

        http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/attis.html explains in detail why Wizard is wrong.

        The earliest information we have about Attis is from Herodotus, and the story is nothing like that of Jesus.

        M. J. Vermaseren and other scholars note that the Attis legend evolved in the Christian era.

        A.T. Fear is quoted as saying the Attis cult “did modify itself in significant ways with the passing of the years” and the parallels to the Jesus story “seem to have been provoked by a need to respond to the challenge of Christianity.”

        But nobody in the ancient world wrote the parallels in Wizard’s post. One example, “His blood was spilled to redeem the Earth.” Attis didn’t redeem anybody. And only one ancient source included a return from Hades for Attis himself.

        Another example, “His body was symbolized as bread and eaten….” The followers of Attis had a communal meal, but there’s no record of what they ate or drank, and the food didn’t symbolize anybody.

        The link posted above cites its sources.

        Yes, one can stretch stories out of shape to try and match them up. But the parallels Wizard cites don’t exist, and any similarity to Christianity developed during the Christian era. They were not part of the original myths.

        And once again: Morgan Robertson wrote “Futility,” or “The Wreck of the Titan,” 14 years before the loss of RMS Titanic. It was basically the same story, as the size of the liner, the collision with an iceberg in the North Atlantic, the loss of life, and even the name of the ship, “Titan” is much like “Titanic.” So what?

        • Truthseeker007

          How about Horus? In early myths, Isis “impregnates” herself using Osiris’s “phallus,” an astrotheological motif, not a story about real people. This myth reflects the entrance of the “sharp star” Sothis or Sirius into the sky, heralding the flooding of the Nile. The Nile water is symbolized by Osiris, while Isis is the river’s banks, fertilized to produce the shoot, Horus.

          Despite this astral myth, Isis remains the “Great Virgin,” another version of the ancient parthenogenetic goddess who brings forth without consort. I write extensively about this motif in Christ in Egypt and in articles, such as “ISIS IS A VIRGIN MOTHER!!” and “Neith, Virgin Mother of the World”

          For example, the Pyramid Texts speak of “the great virgin” (Hwn.t wr.t) three times, at 682c, 728a and 2002a, while in a text in the Abydos Temple of Seti I, Isis herself declares: “I am the great virgin.”

          Isis’s perpetual virginity reflects her role in nature, as the bringer of new life annually and otherwise. This virgin-mother goddess motif has been very popular since remote antiquity. (See also “Was Mithra Born of a Virgin Mother?,” “Was Krishna’s Mother a Virgin?” and “Attis: Born of a Virgin on December 25th, Crucified and Resurrected after Three Days?”)

          In the first century BCE, Diodorus Siculus (1.25.6) related the myth of Horus being killed by his brother Seth, after which the god is resurrected by his mother, Isis. The same Greek word to describe Horus’s resurrection, anastasis, is used later to depict Christ’s revivification. I discuss this motif and the burial for three days in depth in Christ in Egypt.

          Horus is depicted in ancient myths as leading 12 souls through the afterlife. One source for this myth is the Book of the Amduat, a lengthy discussion of which can be found in Christ in Egypt.

          At times this argument revolves around the use of the word “disciples,” in an attempt to split hairs. I have also addressed this issue in my forums, where many other discussions of “the 12″ can be found.

          Jesus’s 12 “disciples” have been associated since antiquity with the signs of the zodiac, as early as the second century, when Christianity begins to emerge in the historical record. I discuss the motif of the 12 extensively in my writings, including forum threads.

          In the early third century, Church father Clement of Alexandria (Excerpts from Theodotus 1.25.2) reported on the doctrine of the Valentinian Gnostic Theodotus (fl. 150-180 AD/CE

          The Egyptian god Anubis or Anpu (“Anup”) was the purifier of the dead, whom he washed ritually, as in baptism. The living pharaoh is an incarnation of Horus, while the dead pharaoh is Osiris. As the king passes through the afterworld ritual, he is purified or baptized by Anubis, as I discuss in a detailed chapter in Christ in Egypt.

          http://www.examiner.com/list/top-10-myths-about-the-religion-part-of-zeitgeist

        • Truthseeker007

          Others are accepted to have been myths and not to have literally existed. But not Jesus. While Christians laugh at those “Pagan” tales and condemn them as evil, they ask the rest of the world to believe, indeed have insisted on pain of torture and death, that their version of the same story is somehow literally true while all the others are not. Yeah, right.

          To understand how the repeat of an ancient, endlessly recurring story could be transformed into the prison-religion called Christianity, and to see the source of global control today, we have to research our ancient origins. When we do that with an open mind and without preconceived dogma, a very different human history emerges. One that is not taught in the schools and universities of the world or revealed through the mainstream media.

          It is a story that not only makes sense of the past, but opens your eyes to the staggering scale of manipulation today and the ancient background and ancestry of those involved. Contrary to conditioned belief, life on Earth has not evolved from a primitive past to the technological “cutting edge” of today. Many thousands of years ago, as detailed in streams of ancient accounts across the world, there was great technological knowledge on this planet and a global society controlled by races of beings, which humans came to know as “gods”.
          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/matrix/matrix02.htm

          Many motives as to why these narratives are so similar, with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, and who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were all based on the movements of the Sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet because the Sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. Or in other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the Sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the Sun through the heavens.

          For instance, many of the world’s crucified godmen have their traditional birthday on December 25th (“Christmas”). This is because the ancients recognized that from an earthcentric perspective the Sun makes an annual descent southward until December 21st or 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops moving southerly for three days and then starts to move northward again. During this time, the ancients declared that “God’s Sun” had “died” for three days and was “born again” on December 25th.

          The ancients realized quite abundantly that they needed the Sun to return every day and that they would be in big trouble if the Sun continued to move southward and did not stop and reverse its direction. Thus, these many different cultures celebrated the “Sun of God’s” birthday on December 25th.

          The following are the characteristics of the “Sun of God”

          In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the Sun would therefore be “born of a Virgin.”

          The Sun is the “Light of the World.”

          The Sun “cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him.”

          The Sun rising in the morning is the “Savior of mankind.”

          The Sun wears a corona, “crown of thorns” or halo.

          The Sun “walks on water.”

          The Sun’s “followers,” “helpers” or “disciples” are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the Sun must pass.

          The Sun at 12:00 noon is in the house or temple of the “Most High”; thus, “he” begins “his Father’s work” at “age” 12.

          The Sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30°; hence, the “Sun of God” begins his ministry at “age” 30.

          The Sun is hung on a cross or “crucified,” which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.

          The Egyptian Pharaohs also identified themselves in life with the Sun god Horus and in death with his father Osiris. These myths identified the Pharaoh as both the earthly form of the royal falcon god who triumphed over his enemies and the pious son who claims the throne after the death of his father. Whilst Osiris ruled the dead in the underworld, Horus ruled the living. Horus and Osiris, just like Jesus, became interchangeable in the mythos (“I and my Father are one”). Horus, who predates the Christ by 3000 years shared the following in common with him.

          Horus was called “Iusa/Iao/Iesu/Iusha” the “KRST,” with Iusha even contributing to the name of Jesus which in Hebrew of course is Yeshua (Iusha). In the Old Testament, it is Joshua (Iusha) son of Jacob.

          Horus became born of the virgin Isis-Meri (Mary) on December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.

          His earthly father was named “Seb” (“Joseph”).

          He was of royal descent.

          At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.

          Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by “Anup the Baptizer” (“John the Baptist”), who was decapitated.

          He had 12 disciples, two of whom were his “witnesses” and were named “Anup” and “Aan” (the two “Johns”).

          He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus (“El-Osiris”), from the dead.

          Horus walked on water.

          His personal epithet was “Iusa,” the “ever-becoming son” of “Ptah,” the “Father.” He was thus called “Holy Child.”

          He delivered a “Sermon on the Mount” and his followers recounted the “Sayings of Iusa.”

          Horus was transfigured on the Mount.

          He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.

          He was also the “Way, the Truth, the Light,” “Messiah,” “God’s Anointed Son,” the “Son of Man,” the “Good Shepherd,” the “Lamb of God,” the “Word made flesh,” the “Word of Truth,” etc.

          He was “the Fisher” and was associated with the Fish (“Ichthys”), Lamb and Lion.

          He came to fulfill the Law.

          Horus was called “the KRST,” or “Anointed One.”

          Horus’s principal enemy was “Set” (biblical Seth) or “Sata” (Satan) Set represents the Serpent of the Night. Horus is the Golden Sun (Son) it becomes the struggle between day and night for supremacy.

          Like Jesus, “Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years.”
          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_33.htm

        • Truthseeker007

          Attis: Born of a Virgin on December 25th, Crucified and Resurrected after Three Days

          In many mythicist writings, the ancient Phrygo-Roman god Attis is depicted as having been born of a virgin mother on December 25th, being killed and resurrecting afterwards. Here we shall examine the evidence for these contentions, which parallel the gospel story and Christian tradition concerning Jesus Christ.

          http://www.truthbeknown.com/attis.html

        • LifeIs

          Truthseeker007, you’re not even comparing stories, you’re comparing interpretations of myths with interpretations of the historical Jesus.

          Peter knew Jesus. Peter wrote letters that survive. Paul and Luke knew the family of Jesus, and the leaders of Jesus’ organization. Paul wrote letters that survive. Luke wrote books that survive.

          You can ignore that, and the churches founded in the first century, by leaders selected and trained by Jesus himself. Churches in Africa, India, and around the Mediterranean.]

          You can ignore history.

          You can also make the enormous intuitive leap from, “here’s a comparable story” to
          “both these stories are fictional.”

          “Morgan Robertson wrote “Futility,” or “The Wreck of the Titan,” 14 years before the loss of RMS Titanic. It was basically the same story, as to the size of the liner, the collision with an iceberg in the North Atlantic, the loss of life, and even the name of the ship, ‘Titan’ is much like ‘Titanic.’”

          You can be so illogical if you like.

          One example of your confusion: The date of birth of the historic Jesus is unknown.
          The authors of the Gospels didn’t consider it to be important enough to mention. So how is that a parallel to anyone’s date of birth? And why cherry-pick one version of the Attis’ birth, out of all?

          You have left out of your analysis parallels to scriptural prophecies. Those were very important to the authors of the Gospels. And they were very important to John of Patmos, the author of Revelation.

          If you want to claim that someone made up the story of Jesus, you’ll have to prove it.
          And, you’ll have to bury the writings of people who knew him, his family, and his associates.

        • LifeIs

          And again, Roman historians wrote of Jesus and his followers.

          One example, Flavius Josephus referring to the execution of James, the brother of Jesus, in “Antiquities of the Jews” book 20, chapter 9. “… he assembled the Sanhedrin of judges, and brought before them the BROTHER OF JESUS, who was called CHRIST, whose name was James, and some others; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law…”

          Josephus also wrote of the execution of John the Baptist, who we know otherwise only from the Gospels. “Antiquities of the Jews,” Book 18, Chapter 5. And Josephus described Jesus, as his followers saw him, in “Antiquities of the Jews” Book 18, Chapter 3.

          Also see Tacitus, “Annals” 15, he wrote that “Christus” was executed by Pontius Pilate, and that “Christians” were followers of “Christus.”

          Suetonius in “Life of Claudius” 16, wrote of persecution of Christians by Nero, and in 25 wrote of the expulsion from Rome of persons incited by “Chrestus,” two of whom became
          close associates of the Apostle Paul. (Aquila and Priscilla –Acts 18, Romans 16, I Corinthians 16, II Timothy 4)

        • Truthseeker007

          Wow LifeIs you have no clue what you are talking about. Get out of your mind control religion a do some research:

          The Jesus figure which Piso creates is a composite. He inserts redrawn elements from Joseph in Egypt and other Jews of the Bible; elements from Essenic writings; and characteristics of various pagan gods.

          Piso plagiarized the Hebrew scriptures. Especially, he loved and borrowed freely from the prophet Isaiah, whose 44th chapter was mosthelpful. Piso’s idea to make Jesus a god to whom to bow, worship and pray
          came from Isaiah 44.17; and the idea to (… missed text …) prophecies” in the Gospel of John, and in the writings of the church fathers. The “prophecies” fit Jesus for the same reason Cinderella’s slippers fit her feet. The Jesus story was deliberately written in such a way that it would fulfill the prophecies.

          The way to pierce the veil is to ponder the NT and its brilliance, even though supposedly written by men so insignificant that nothing is known of them nor of their families outside the pages of the NT–and then to think,”Who could have written such a brilliant book, which shows such complete knowledge of the life and times of 1st century Judaea?” Then a person may think of all the Josephs in the story and of one of them being the reputed father of the baby. And if he has heard that writers have always written themselves into their stories, he may think of Josephus as the literary father of the baby and the creator of the story. Once he thinks of Josephus as the father of the baby and story, he may recall that Josephus in his Vita listed the names of his three sons. Studying the names of the three—Hyrcanus, Justus, and Simonides/Agrippa1—quickly
          produces the names of the main disciples in the NT:

          Read full PDF Here:
          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/true-authorship-nt.pdf

          All about the Piso
          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_piso.htm

          16 crucified saviors:
          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/esp_biblianazar_16.htm

          Even valid channeled material says so.Great info at this link for your study:
          How the Jesus Myth was created

          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/master_file/jesusmyth.htm

          This Awareness indicates that even the New Testament is assembled from patterns related to stories taken from earlier sources, such as Zoroastrian, Mithrain, Krishna, Buddhism, and Egyptian, and others, in which many verses are literally paraphrasing earlier writings, and many of the stories attributed to the story of Jesus, were lifted directly out of these other writings. The story of Jesus at the well, as one which was taken from earlier writings. This Awareness indicates that it is of importance that entities realize the origins of the Bible did not come from the pen of God, but came from the earlier writings in different cultures and nations at the time these Hebrew priests put this work together. This Awareness indicates that these countries who were plagiarized then became labeled as heathen, – nations whose philosophies were heathenistic, but this was only after their stories had been stolen.

          First of all, you have to realize that Jesus was a composite of different entities and the name was chosen several hundred years later at the Council of Nicea, wherein the entity Constantine ordered the various religious sects to come together and create a single religion for Rome, a Universal religion that incorporated all of the aspects of the various religions, so that all could accept and subscribe to it.

          This Awareness indicates that the combination of the many different Roman religious orders or organizations, the different religious sects, forming a composite in which the central heroic character was the Son of God, having 12 disciples, being born of a virgin, whose intent and purpose was to help save mankind, and for his efforts, the entity was slain and put upon a cross; the entity also having certain miraculous powers, including that of those who can heal by touch, or raise from the dead or move into states of suspended animation, such as some of the masters of India have demonstrated in various times throughout history.

          The Piso Family Who Wrote the Books of the New Testament

          This Awareness indicates that still other earlier information on the deception in the New Testament has to do who really wrote the books of the New Testament. This Awareness indicates that much of the information was written by a family, the Piso family, and there is information about these entities and how they coded their own works so that they received credit for the writing, and you can find these coded references in the New Testament which fits with the code of the various writers of the Piso family. This as having spawned a society, a secret society that down through the ages has passed this information to various people and which can still be found, and information on this is available and has been mentioned previously, with an address given to allow entities to find more information on this family who wrote the new testament.

          These entities having gone through certain competition with each other at one point, whereby their own family competition regarding who will do what, created between them the need to couch their material in certain codes and certain numerical properties to assure that they always got the credit for the particular book of the New Testament which they wrote.

          Books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Written by Pisos

          This Awareness indicates, for example, the books of Matthew, Mark, and John were not written by Matthew, Mark and John, but by different Piso family members, all of which is explained in the material that they make available to the public by writing to them. These entities not alive today, but the society preserving this information is still very much alive.

          This Awareness indicates that even the Book of Revelation was written by the Piso family. This Awareness indicates that entities who wish to check this further can write to the address, and for five dollars receive a small booklet that explains much more in detail in regard to this family. There is also the opportunity for entities to join a membership of this organization if they so desire.

          This Awareness indicates that the important thing about the Christian religion is that the symbolism of the story has been a great influence on society, has been a glue to hold society together, to make it grow, to make it develop into that which held high ideals.

          More infomative links:

          http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/piso/djoke2.html

          http://www.tektonics.org/lp/pisocake.html/

          http://www.humanreligions.info/twelve.html

          http://www.fargonasphere.com/piso/

          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_piso02b.htm

          http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

          Just to name a few.

          Names of the writers of the New Testament:

          Flavius Josephus was actually Arrius Calpurnius Piso

          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_piso07.htm

          MARK:

          The gospel of Mark was written in a prototype form before it was later crafted into the form that we are familiar with. The earlier version was called ‘Ur Marcus’ and is also known/called ‘Q’ (for ‘Quelle’, which is German for the ‘source’).

          Our latest findings regarding the early version of Mark show that this was written at about the time of Claudius Caesar, by the grandfather of Arrius Piso. That version was apparently only a bare sketch and most likely did not give a name to the ‘messiah’. That appears to have been done later by the person who actually played ‘Jesus’ in the Gospels – Arrius Piso

          The version that we are familiar with was written about the year 73 CE by Arrius Calpurnius Piso. Arrius Piso was a Roman on his father’s side, but a descendant of King Herod on his mother’s side and therefore he knew well about the Jewish religion. He was also a close relative to the Flavians and even though secretly he could inherit and use the Flavian name by his mother’s descent from them, he gave a story about receiving it from the emperor Vespasian (in his other identity as Flavius Josephus).

          MATTHEW:

          Matthew too, was authored by Arrius Calpurnius Piso. This was written about the year 75 CE.

          LUKE:

          Was written 85-90 CE by Arrius C. Piso and Pliny the Younger.

          JOHN:

          The 4th Gospel, or the Gospel of John was written by Justus Calpurnius Piso, a son of Arrius C. Piso. This son was very much like this father in his hatred towards humanity. This Gospel was written circa 105 CE.

          ACTS:

          The Acts of the Apostles was written by Arrius Piso and his son Justus, with some help from Pliny the Younger 96-100 CE. By the way, there is a portion of Acts that is missing from most English translations/interpretations. That is the 29th Chapter, which has 10 verses.

          ROMANS:

          The epistle to the Romans was written by another son of Arrius Piso (Proculus Piso) and Claudia Phoebe about the year 100. Claudia Phoebe is known in history as the wife of the emperor Trajan (as Pompeia Plotina). She wrote the last few verses of this epistle, which many copies of the NT in English leave out because that portion was written by a woman. This is obvious, and she even gives her name as ‘Phoebe’. You can tell where the previous male author leaves off and the female author begins because the male author “signs off” with ‘Amen’. She wrote the last verses (25-27) of Romans, Chapter 16.

          1st CORINTHIANS, GALATIONS, and EPHESIANS:

          were all written between 100-103 CE by Pliny the Younger.

          2nd CORINTHIANS and PHILIPPIANS:

          were written by Justus C. Piso between 103-105 CE.

          COLOSSIANS:

          was written by Justus C. Piso and his son Julianus (Julianus was the father of the emperor Marcus Aurelius, but this is seen in history only by his use of another name ‘Verus’).

          1st TIMOTHY:

          was written by Pliny the Younger circa 105 CE.

          2nd TIMOTHY:

          was written by Justus C. Piso (also known in history by other names), c. 107 CE.

          1st and 2nd THESSALONIANS:

          were written by Justus C. Piso and his son Julianus with some help from his nephew Silanus between the years 105-110 CE.

          TITUS:

          was written by Pliny the Younger circa 103-105 CE.

          PHILEMON:

          was written by Justus C. Piso and his son Julianus.

          JAMES:

          was written by Justus C. Piso around 110 CE.

          1st and 2nd PETER:

          were written by Proculus Piso between 110-115 CE.

          1st, 2nd and 3rd JOHN:

          were written by Julius Calpurnius Piso (who was still another son of Arrius Calpurnius Piso), between 110-115 CE.

          JUDE:

          was written by Julius C. Piso also, between the years 110-115 CE.

          THE REVELATION OF JOHN THE DIVINE:

          was written by Julius Calpurnius Piso, who may have been the son of the other Julius Calpurnius Piso (who had the same name), and this was written in or about the year 137 CE. It was not the book of the NT, just written as the end of the story.

          HEBREWS:

          This was written by a grandson of Arrius Piso named Flavius Arrianus circa 140 CE. Flavius Arrianus was the real name of the historian who wrote as ‘Appian’. This person was the half-brother of the emperor Antoninus Pius. Antoninus Pius, by the way, also wrote history under the name of Suetonius. Flavius Arrianus also wrote other works, most notably, he wrote under the name of ‘Ptolemy’.

          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_piso01.htm

        • Truthseeker007

          EVIDENCE:
          (Flavius Josephus was a penname of Arrius Piso)

          This next section is called “Evidence”. Some of the items from above may be repeated here for various reasons; emphasis, clarification or because it also relates to other items that we are examining here.

          First of all, this particular subject really requires a full book length treatise to illustrate it fully – or ideally, several books which explore the whole thing in detail. But this is simply a short article and so we will do our best that we can here.

          One of the first things that comes to mind in trying to explain this is just “where to start?” And next is the reality of the fact that the average reader is unprepared and not fully familiar with primary information that they would need in order to fully comprehend what would be stated regarding this. So, there is an extreme disadvantage here right from the start.

          Because of this and the fact that this is just a short article, it would probably be best to just give a “list” of the various proofs that

          (1) Flavius Josephus was really Arrius Piso, and

          (2) Arrius Piso was/played “Jesus” in the New Testament

          In terms of Arrius Calpurnius Piso himself, he indeed made certain that his full and real name was never to be found anywhere that was obvious in history – therefore hiding his true identity from everyone but a small few.

          To restate this, the name “Arrius Calpurnius Piso” is not found outright in ancient history. But, it can be deduced and therefore reconstructed, because it is found in parts or ‘chopped up’ here and there. It is a matter of putting all of the ‘parts’ together to get his true full name. Remember, this name was deliberately hidden and for an express purpose.

          Abelard Reuchlin puts it this way:

          “He does not appear (in history) as Arius Calpurnius Piso. His true identity is decipherable only by reconstruction.”

          Ref. “The True Authorship of the New Testament,” pg. 3.

          When his true name and identity are discovered and known the rest starts to fall into place and the truth unravels. The easiest way to find that “Arrius Calpurnius Piso” is his real name is to find him as (C.) Caesennius Paetus when his father as Thrasea Paetus is found out to really be Gaius Calpurnius Piso, who was put to death (by order of suicide) by Nero in 65 CE.

          At that point, you know that he is the son of Gaius Calpurnius Piso, and that therefore the “Calpurnius Piso” part of his real/true name becomes known. From there one may deduce from information available in ancient history and in articles dealing with specifics of it that his firstname was “Arrius” as the masculine form of his mother’s name (Arria). You may well wish to note that the Jewish historic commentary tries to point this out with the “Pantera” riddle. This will be explained in more detail later on in this article.

          And one may also wish to note that Arrius Calpurnius Piso’s real name was not “Gaius Calpurnius Piso, Jr.”, as he just assumes that as an alter or alias name for the specific purpose of indicating that he was the son of Gaius Calpurnius Piso. His true name is the one that people in his family knew him as and called him by – and as we go on in our studies, it will become more and more apparent that this name was indeed “Arrius”.

          One of the best proofs for Flavius Josephus being the primary author of the Gospels and the inventor of “Jesus” is simply the correlations that are found between the works of Flavius Josephus and the New Testament itself. Those correlations will be made available to the public in the upcoming years.

          It is quite fortunate for us that the Romans were not the only ones who were leaving us records and information of persons and history in those times. The Jews (Pharisees), whom Rome was at war with over this very issue likewise left us what information that they could within their particular circumstance. Like the Romans, they too used what we refer to as ‘royal language’ as they could not write about this openly either and had to resort to hints, riddles and clues as well. But now that we know just how to read that ‘royal language’, we can also read what they had written – just as they had wrote it and intended it to be read by those whom could do so.

          Because of what this reveals, it demonstrates to us that history (especially ancient history) as we think we know it, did not happen in the way in which we had previously thought that it had and we must now expect that more and more evidence likewise will be found that is consistent with the way in which it DID happen.
          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_piso07.htm

        • Truthseeker007

          The assertion that Jesus is a myth can be demonstrated not only through the works of dissenters and “Pagans” who knew the truth—and who were viciously refuted or murdered for their battle against the Christian priests and Church fathers fooling the masses with their fictions—but also through the statements of various Christians themselves who disclosed that they knew Jesus Christ was a myth founded upon more ancient deities located throughout the known ancient world. Illustrating this contention, in his play from 1564, Bishop of Ossory John Bale (1495-1563) appears to be suggesting that Pope Leo X (1475-1521) was privy to the truth based on his high rank, when the bishop recounts an alleged exchange between Cardinal

          Acharya S/D.M. Murdock The Origins of Christianity

          - King Herod ordered the killing of male infants upon hearing of Jesus’ birth, even though he died 4 years before Jesus was supposedly born.

          -The Gospel of Peter states it was that same King Herod, not Pilot, that ordered his execution. (Again the real Herod died before the biblical Jesus was even born)… this gospel was never canonized along with many others that didn’t fit Christian Dogma.

          - The Apostle Paul (Saul of Tarsus) states Jesus never lived in human form. He actually talks of him as a metaphor using lines such as “if he had lived…” He also has no knowledge of anything written in later texts (IE virgin birth, Roman political battles, reviving the dead, etc etc) He only knows of a metaphorical Crucifixion and Resurrection (as his words explain). In later texts it is stated this happened in literal form.

          -The 4 cannoned gospels (Mathew, Mark, Luke, John) weren’t written until 70AD or later as historical facts from that era are referenced in these gospels.

          -Jesus’ Biblical Birth (Christmas) and Death (Easter) are actually the Pagan Winter and Spring Solstices… this is because early Christians wanted to convert the most popular religion of that time. Some believe this is also why current Christians do not celebrate Passover (they wanted to convert Pagans more than Jews), even though it is a very Christian holiday.

          It’s important to note that the bible does not mention a date for either his birth or death as well.

          -Only 2 of the 4 New Testaments refer to Jesus’ “virgin birth”, and the 4 actually contradict each other quite often.

          -During the time period of the New Testament dozens, if not hundreds of heretics calling themselves “messiah” were crucified in the Juda (Israel) region. Roman historical records confirm this.

          The most glaring however… is that the Story of Jesus is PLAGIARIZED. The Egyptian tale of Horus is the most glaring (the story is literally identical and more than a thousand years older) but virgin births, sons of god, resurrection tales, etc etc are found all over mythology. There are dozens of similar tales.

        • LifeIs

          Truthseeker007

          Remember “The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross,” by John M. Allegro?

          Remember the very detailed explanation of how the Gospels were in code, and they were REALLY all about a cult that ate hallucinogenic mushrooms ?

          Remember “The Passover Plot,” by Hugh J. Schonfield, which explained how Jesus faked his death and pretended to be resurrected?

          Or, is the Piso story your first encounter with creative mis-interpretation? It is not even an intelligent story.

          (1) The power of Rome depended on being able to kill people, and have them STAY DEAD. They wouldn’t invent a religion that says the WORST Rome can do to you is nothing to fear.

          (2) Rome controlled Palestine and Judaeans the way they controlled everybody: with brute force. Jesus taught his followers to avoid confrontation and organize. “The kingdom of God is within you.” (plural form of “you”) In other words, Jesus taught avoidance of combat and subversion, as tactics against the empire.

          (3) Finding hidden meanings and hidden jokes in ancient manuscripts is an exercise in
          folly. (See: “The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross.”) For one thing, WE DON’T HAVE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS TO WORK WITH.

          (4) Romans would not replace Isis worship with Mary worship. Augustus went to the trouble of destroying the temples of Isis in Rome, and near Rome. Tiberius crucified
          the priests of Isis. Rome didn’t want a powerful female god, not after Cleopatra VII
          identified herself with Isis and allied herself with Marcus Antonius in a civil war.

          (5) Rome didn’t control slaves with propaganda. Edward Bernays had not been born yet.
          Rome controlled slaves with fear of death, period.

          (6) Romans would not invent a pacifist religion; they needed soldiers.

          (7) The number 666 ? That’s one of two items in Revelation that require “wisdom”
          to understand, the author tells us. The other is the woman “seated on seven hills.”

          What is the point of a hidden meaning, if you TELL PEOPLE it’s a hidden meaning?
          If you CHALLENGE people to figure it out?

          (8) The calendar ? The early Christians used the Roman one.

          And Truthseeker I notice you repeated again that Attis was born on December 25th.
          Well, nobody knows when the historic Jesus was born. The Gospel writers didn’t
          think it important enough to mention.

        • Truthseeker007

          LifeIs:

          The commonalities between Christian art and the Mushroom are undeniable. The Mushroom in question (Amanita Muscaria or Fly Agaric) which has been used as an Entheogen for thousands of years has been incorporated into much more than just Jesus. Even Santa Claus is constructed from its use.

          Brief outline: The Shamans of Siberia would gather these mushrooms fresh from under the coniferous trees and as mushrooms are mostly water, they can become quite heavy. So the Shaman and his “helpers” would pick them and hang them within the needles of the coniferous trees (sounds familiar) to allow them to dry. Then he would put them in a large sack, get on his sled “pulled by reindeer’s” and continue to his lodge were his tribe would be waiting for the ceremony. Now this is Siberia and as snow can come hard and fast at any time the only assured way to enter and exit the lodge was from the hole in the roof (Ding!). Also because of the color of the Mushroom itself being with stem with red cap, the Shaman would also incorporate these colors into his clothes. So, we have a figure that takes things from under a tree, places them in a tree, travels on a sled pulled by reindeer’s and enters through the roof, sure sounds like jolly old Santa to me….lol.

          Allegro was one of the only people to study the DSS and his conclusion was pretty different than anyone else at the time. He was a Christian before he studied them and an agnostic after he studied them. He was also not favored by the Vatican for the conclusions he reached due to the DSS. Thus he was basically labeled a runaway nutjob, something that history has shown is a “prerequisite” for finding the actual truth…lol.

          His book is crammed to the brim with Sumerian translations but if it was enough to change a persons faith in their religion then there was certainly smoke that led to a fire for Allegro.

          So what are the comparisons to Jesus and this Mushroom. Well as most of us know the Entheogen (hallucinatory substance) produces a definite shift in perception of reality. One does not feel like one does in everyday life, there is surreal connection to everything around you and this has often been explained as the inner world. This immediately makes me think of certain “quotes” of Jesus. For example one that shines out is the “No one comes to the Father except through me”.The “rock I will build on” is another (according to Allegro) name for the Mushroom in Sumerian. To take the mushroom that gives the person a glimpse into the vast array of realities that is invisible to all but the select few who “ingest the flesh” of this fungus would be a good basis for a religion.

          The cherry picking religions today are made up of many sources of the past Allegro however gives translations of the Sumerian language that are very explanatory for the case he is making.The Amanita Muscaria could very well have been the crux of the Jesus personification among others,and if no one has came across this information before (doubtful)
          then I think this has a lot of merit as “one” of the characteristics employed in the figure “Jesus”.

          Another strange thing ties the Shaman actions to that of biblical miracles, the water into wine analogy in particular. The Shaman would be the one to ingest large amounts of the Mushroom which will produce gastric upsets and pain, but because of this his urine would contain huge amounts of the chemical that produces the narcotic effect. The followers or tribe belonging to the Shaman would ingest both the mushroom and the urine of the shaman. Could this possibly mean the flesh and blood of Jesus, and if the urine was mixed with water….water would then become the intoxicant?

          Other visual evidence is the very getup the Vatican wear, the white under gowns and red top around the shoulders, again mimicking the mushroom.Pure coincidence, or direct influence?

      • Pix

        Bingo :!:

        :lol:

    • LifeIs

      The second beast in Revelation 13 makes its people, and the other inhabitants of the Earth, worship the first beast described. That is the “undying love affair” that the USA has with Israel.

      The first beast, the one with the blasphemous name, the one who survived a mortal wound to one of its heads, is Israel.

      Auschwitz is the new Calvary, the “Jewish People” are the new Messiah, and Israel is the new miraculous resurrection. Welcome to your new religion.

      Magog is Central Asia, where the Khazars came from. “Those who say they are Judaeans, and who are not.” The tribe that was forced to convert to Judaism in the 800s A.D.
      The “Ashkenazi Jews,” or “European Jews.”

      Josephus identified Magog as the location of the Scythians of the far north. (Antiquities I)

      The destruction by fire predicted in Revelation chapter 18 will destroy ISRAEL, and the financial empire that spawned it.

      • Truthseeker007

        Yous will be fighting over this for centuries to come because Revelations is written in symbols. You can make anything you want out of symbols.For example, in the Book of Revelation where it speaks of scorpions with stings in their tails and things of this nature, entities may see this
        as ships that fire guns. Is that what “scorpions with stings in their tails” actually means, or is it simply the mind looking for something to hook together symbolically to find a meaning, to prove that the Book of Revelation fits in this situation.

        if one were to set out to write descriptions of the future and were to write exactly in the terminology that one thought the future would hold, one would most likely error considerably, but if one were to write about the future in terms of symbols, such as saying there will be flying things that cause pain, there will be entities who ride in the darkness who bring bad news;
        there will be those things that come forth and bring a great wonderment. Nothing said so far can be contradicted in regard to future events, because every thing is so broad and vague that it can be applied to any future time and be accurate.

        And to describe that there will be a monstrous creature that comes upon
        man, this too can be said in such a manner as to be accurate in any
        future situation because the creature doesn’t even have to be human or
        doesn’t have to be animal. It can be some kind of concept, they can say
        that the creature was the drug problem that came upon humanity, or the
        creature was the AIDS problem.

        Julius Piso wrote a mind control masterpiece when he wrote Revelations.

        • LifeIs

          It is obvious that John of Patmos, who wrote the book of Revelation, was shown images from the future. He described them as well as he could, given his first century education and vocabulary.

          If he had been shown episodes of “Gunsmoke,” he would have had to say something liike,
          “smoke from a catapult slew the man in the black hat.”

          Yes, people have read into Revelation, by not reading carefully. There are specific details
          that are NOT open to interpretation. And mere humans in the ancient world could not have imagined HOW Jerusalem could be the seat of a regime that rules the world.

          Example, when “Babylon” is destroyed, it is said, “…in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and all who have been slain on earth.” (Revelation chapter 18)

          Only one nation killed the prophets. You can’t get around that.

          Jerusalem, where Jesus was crucified, is called “Sodom (representing depravity) and Egypt (representing empire) in Revelation chapter 11.

          Jerusalem is one of the ancient cities famously “built on seven hills.” (Revelation chapter 17)

          Peter (I Peter chapter 5) wrote greetings from “Babylon.”

          Only one empire has ever had dominion over the entire earth, it is a financial empire.
          (Revelation chapter 13)

          Only one nation has slaughtered tens of millions of Christians, the Armenians through the Donmeh, the Russians and Ukrainians through the Bolsheviks, and the Christeros of Mexico through international banksters. (the blood of saints, Revelation chapter 18)

          One empire – the financial one- is unmatched in promoting wars. Don’t take MY word for it.
          “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.” -Gutle Schnaper, wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild.

          Benjamin Freedman explained- as an insider- the role of Israel (the “Jewish State founded by Theordor Herzl in 1897) in extending World War One. Read his words here: http://jahtruth.net/freedman.htm

          Here is a Jewish diplomat’s assessment of World War One, written in 1918. “Israel won the war. we made it; we thrived on it; we profited from it. It was our supreme revenge on Christianity.” (Count Mensdorf, ambassador from Austria to England Count Mensdorf)

          “Wall Street and the Bolsheviks” by Anthony C. Sutton documents the international intrigue behind the Russian Revolution.

          “The Controversy of Zion,” by Douglas Reed, explains the financial empire’s role in World War Two.

          Only one nation has decapitation as the penalty for “blasphemy,” in its Noahide Laws. (Revelation chapter 20) And Christianity is blasphemy. (Ask the Christians and Alawite Muslims in Syria. Ask the Catholics in the French Revolution. And yes, the Freemasons are henchmen of the evil empire.)

          Truthseeker007, you have an “Aha!” moment, every time you see the number 12 used in the ancient world. I’ve put together specific details from Revelation and facts from modern history for you.

      • Truthseeker007

        LifeIs You are free to believe in a lie and live and illusion but the basic fact is that the Bible Jesus didn’t exist. Lets take a look at Krishna now.

        • Krishna was a divinely conceived “son of God,” the deity incarnate.

        • His birth and divine mission having been foretold, Krishna was born of the “virgin” Devaki (“Divine One”) in a prison, “stable” or, like the cave-born Christ of tradition, a “cave-like dungeon.”

        • Krishna was of royal descent, a prince, who became “King of the Yadus.”

        • As was Christ with his cousin John the Baptist, Krishna was preceded by a “precursor,” his brother Balarama.

        • Upon birth, the baby Krishna, was placed in a “basket for winnowing corn; in other words, a manger.”

        • Great signs and wonders occurred at Krishna’s birth, including the appearance of a bright star.

        • His birthplace was filled with a “marvelous and powerful light.”

        • The heavenly hosts danced and sang at his birth.

        • His birth was attended by angels, wise men and shepherds.

        • He was presented with gifts, including gold and incense.

        • Krishna’s foster father (Nanda) was in the city to pay taxes when the god was born.

        • Krishna was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of infants.

        • He was pursued by evil spirits or demons, whom he destroyed.

        • As was Jesus in the tradition of Christopher or “Christ-bearer,” the infant Krishna was carried across a river.

        • While the young Christ is depicted as fleeing to a place called “Matarea” or “Maturea,” Krishna is said to have been born in the city of Mathura.

        • As a young boy, the Indian god worked miracles and wonders, and was hailed as a divine incarnation.

        • Also as a youth, Krishna outstripped his teachers with his intelligence and knowledge.

        • Like Jesus teaching in the temple as a youth, as a boy Krishna was a “zealous reformer of religion” who “warred upon vested priestly or rather priest-crafty interests and pretensions.”

        • Krishna was “tempted” in the wilderness by “various fiends,” before crushing the serpent’s head.

        • As an adult, Krishna became the master to many disciples.

        • Like Christ the Shepherd, Krishna the Cowherd was worshipped by shepherds as a god.

        • He is depicted among shepherds, holding a shepherd’s crook, and is the “Shepherd God.”

        • Krishna preached faith “in God’s love to man and in his mercy and forgiveness of sins arising therefrom.”

        • He raised a child from the dead and healed lepers, the deaf and the blind.

        • Krishna miraculously fed the multitudes.

        • A fig tree figures prominently in Krishna’s myth, in which the god says, “Among trees, I am the sacred fig-tree” and is depicted also as approaching one, where he “utters a sort of parable.”

        • His teachings were compiled in a book as “revealed scripture.”

        • “He lived poor and he loved the poor,” humbly washing the feet of guests.

        • Krishna was anointed with oil by a woman bearing a jar of ointment.

        • Like Jesus, Krishna continually manifested his divinity and then denied it.

        • He was transfigured in front of his beloved disciple.

        • Krishna had a “beloved disciple” named Arjuna, Arjun, Arjoon or “Ar-jouan.”

        • Tradition holds that Krishna died after being shot in the foot while under a (fig) tree, leading to the suggestion he was pinned against the tree by an arrow or “crucified.”

        • Like Christ’s crucifixion, Krishna’s death was caused by a sharp metallic object that pierced his foot.

        • Krishna descended into hell to rescue others.

        • After he was killed, Krishna appeared alive again and forgave his killer, sending him to heaven, like Christ with the penitent thief and in forgiving those who “know not what they do” (Lk 23:39-43, 34).

        • After his death, the alive-again Krishna ascended to heaven, where he lives on and blesses his followers.

        • Both Christ and Krishna claimed, “I am the Resurrection.”

        • Krishna is “a personal savior, a messianic deliverer who will bring all men and women salvation if only they choose to give Him their devotion.”

        • As Vishnu, Krishna is the god “who incarnates himself when sin threatens to take the upper hand in the world, and destroys it.”

        • As God having taken birth to interact with humanity as a teacher and savior, Krishna is both “fully human and fully divine.”

        • Krishna is the “Creator,” the “Divine One,” “Lord of creation,” “Lord of the god of gods,” “Lord of all gods,” “Lord of lords” and “king of the gods,”

        • Krishna is “Supreme among Men, Sustainer and Lord of Creatures, God of Gods, Master of the Universe.”

        • As Vishnu, the godman/avatar is the second person of the Trinity, considered the “Beginning, the Middle and the End,” (“Alpha and Omega”), the “source of all spiritual and material worlds,” as well as being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.

        • His disciples shout the words “Jai Shri Krishna” or “Jishnu Krishna,” meaning “Victory to Lord Krishna” or “Victorious Krishna,” respectively.

        • As Christ was the “lion of the tribe of Judah,” Krishna is the lion (of the tribe of Yadus).

        • He was perceived as the “Son of God” and “our Lord and Savior,” who came to earth for man’s salvation.

        • Krishna’s religion teaches that followers can attain spiritual salvation through a personal relationship with God in the form of the godman. Both Christ and Krishna are said to be eternal and pre-existent, coming down to earth or incarnating as humans for a variety of reasons the two figures likewise hold in common.

        • A future incarnation of Vishnu, Lord Krishna as the Kalki avatar, will arrive riding a white horse and destroy the wicked, including the “prince of evil,” the “destroyer of all things.”

        http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/

        • LifeIs

          Truthseeker007:

          “We Jews and Church Leaders have known since the beginning of Christianity that it was synthesized by the Roman Piso family for the purpose of maintaining control over the masses and to placate slaves. And, this is why we Jews are the “Chosen People” and why we have endured so much for so many years; we are witnesses to the lie.”

          That’s from the “True Authorship of the New Testament” home page:
          http://reuchlina.tripod.com/

          No scholar in the world takes this story seriously. It is Jewish “May his name be obliterated” propaganda.

          Here is a bit of rebuttal: http://www.tektonics.org/lp/pisocake.html

          But I appeal to your common sense, Truthseeker007.

          Your conclusion is that a small group of conspirators in Rome — who conveniently have studied all the world’s religions and myths, including those of India —- wrote a big, thick book of fake history, and some shorter ones, and some letters, and wait, who founded the actual churches?

          And these Roman conspirators managed to disguise inane remarks with what appears to be intelligent reporting and intelligent commentary. (Have you READ Josephus ???)

          And the Jews who knew all this – somehow – kept it secret until 1877 ?

          And a point or two from http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/4664

          ‘Pacifying Jews would not have been possible with a cult that eliminated Jewish law and accepted Gentiles as equals, and in actual fact Christianity was pretty much a failure in Palestine.’

          ‘If the Roman elite’s aim was to “pacify” Palestinian Jews by inventing new scriptures, they were certainly smart and informed enough to know that that wouldn’t succeed by using the language the Judaean elite despised as foreign (Greek)’

          ‘ The Gospels and the Epistles all contradict each other far too much to have been composed with a systematic aim in mind. Indeed, they contradict each other in ways that often demonstrate they are deliberately arguing with each other. ‘

          ‘We know there were over forty Gospels, yet the four chosen for the canon were not selected until well into the 2nd century, and not by anyone in the Roman aristocracy. Likewise which Epistles were selected.’

          ‘…the Roman aristocracy were not so masterfully educated in the Jewish scriptures and theology that they could compose hundreds of pages of elegant passages based on it.’

          (Josephus wrote his big, thick “Antiquities of the Judaeans” to explain the nation and
          the religion to Romans.)

          Again, NOBODY takes this theory seriously in the academic world.

      • Truthseeker007

        LifeIs :

        THE REVELATION OF JOHN THE DIVINE:

        was written by Julius Calpurnius Piso, who may have been the son of the other Julius Calpurnius Piso (who had the same name), and this was written in or about the year 137 CE. It was not the book of the NT, just written as the end of the story.

        http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_piso01.htm

        Those who are looking for the scenario to occur from the Book of Revelation, will find similarities in future events that can be equated to those things described. There may be a need in some instances to stretch the imagination. Some things will be similar.

        For example, in the Book of Revelation where it speaks of scorpions with stings in their tails and things of this nature, entities may see this as ships that fire guns. Is that what “scorpions with stings in their tails” actually means, or is it simply the mind looking for something to
        hook together symbolically to find a meaning, to prove that the Book of Revelation fits in this situation?

        If one were to set out to write descriptions of the future and were to write exactly in the terminology that one thought the future would hold, one would most likely error considerably, but if one were to write about the future in terms of symbols, such as saying there will be flying things that cause pain, there will be entities who ride in the darkness who bring bad news;
        there will be those things that come forth and bring a great wonderment. Nothing said so far can be contradicted in regard to future events, because every thing is so broad and vague that it can be applied to any future time and be accurate.

        By using symbology, one can make predictions that are accurate in regard to the future, and the accuracy may have nothing to do with foreseeing the future. It may simply be that the terminology and the symbols can be applied to the future. Much of the Book of Revelation is of this nature. It can be applied to any situation.

      • Truthseeker007

        Flavius Josephus, whose birth name was Josephus bar Mattathias. a Jew, born in Judea, educated as a religious Pharisee and scribe. During the revolt against Rome he was miscast as a Jewish General having no real military knowledge or prowess. When captured by Roman soldiers he was brought before Vespasian whereupon he prophecied that God had turned his favor on the Romans and that Vespasian would become the Ruler of all Men. Shortly after, Nero died, Vespasian was recalled to Rome and conferred as Caesar by the Roman Senate. He was so impressed by Josephus’ prophecy that he had Josephus adopted by the Imperial family. Josephus, a Jewish scholar with a depth of knowledge of Jewish religious history and tradition now working for the Romans! He was charged with chronicling Titus’s military campaign in Judea. Titus, the son of Vespasian was left in charge of the Roman legions when his father was recalled to Rome to be named Emperor of Rome. Two of his most notable works are “Jewish Antiquities” and “War of the Jews.”

        I would like to recommend highly the book “Caesar’s Messiah” by Joseph Atwill. Where archaelogists of ancient Egypt have cut one leg of the table supporting Christianity’s authenticity, Frank Zindler’s “The Jesus the Jews Never Knew Cuts another. However Joseph Atwill smashes any legs left and leaves no doubt in my mind that Jesus is in fact pure mythology. I wanted to include here a short review of his book “Caesar’s Messiah”, it can be found online at Amazon.com, as well.

        How the Flavian Emperors Wrote the Gospels, March 13, 2005
        “This is the most exciting book on Jesus that I know. I was fortunate to read it in galleys and have had some time to reflect on it. Every church, every synagogue and seminary should set up groups to work on its implications. These extraordinary new discoveries will have a major role to play in the current ‘culture wars’ about the place of religion in public life.

        Professor Robert Eisenman Director of the Institute for the Study of Judeo-Christian Origins, California State University calls Atwill’s work “challenging and provocative”. Professor Rod Blackhirst , Professor of Biblical Studies, La Trobe University, calls it “Fascinating and of course profoundly challenging….a milestone in NT studies…..a fantastic, ice-breaking contribution”. Both these scholars used the word “challenging”. They are right. Atwill’s book is a major challenge to the existing model of how Christianity originated, and a major threat to the hypothesis of the Historical Jesus—seeing him instead as a literary character in a Roman fraud.
        Caesar’s Messiah has three unique and amazing features;

        (1) Atwill is willing to look objectively at the facts and discard false assumptions. He makes rational judgments of the evidence and follows the implications wherever they lead. He is therefore able to show what others have missed. This is enormously exciting and refreshing.

        (2) His discovery that the key events in the life of Jesus are literary satires of events in the Roman military campaign in Judea (66-70CE) shows definitively that these parts of the gospels (and one might infer probably the rest as well) were created by the Romans to deceive the Jews into worshipping a false literary messiah.

        (3) His discovery that the so called ‘Testimonium’ passage in Josephus’s book Jewish Antiquities is essentially a confession by the Flavian Emperors that they wore the ‘mask’ of Jesus as a false god to seduce the Jews into worshipping them in disguise, is also an ground-breaking discovery.

        Atwill heads an independent research group, the Roman Origins Institute, and previously worked on the dating of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Now, his latest work will transform the field of NT research. However this new paradigm of Jesus does raise several concerns;

        (1) It is emotionally hard to learn that the character of the Virgin Mary was really a satire of Cannibal Mary during the siege of Jerusalem, and that a close reading of the Gospel of John shows that Lazarus is taken out of the tomb only to provide the substance for a cannibal feast. As the text says ‘they made him a supper’ (KJV,ASV, NASB,LITV translations).
        [Lazarus is the Greek translation for Eleazar. Eleazar was the true leader of the Messianic movement during Titus military seige of Jerusalem. He was captured by Titus's soldiers. Titus had him gibbeted/hung from a cross above Jerusalem to demoralize its defenders. It is Lazarus who becomes the foundation of the crucifixion ruse. The humor is that his crucifixion saved some Jews...from hunger. Titus starved Jerusalem before his final assault.]

        (2) Caesar’s Messiah does not situate its findings within the existing NT scholarly literature and does not spell out how the entirety of the Gospels was actually created. It also does not discuss the implications of its thesis on the Pauline Letters and on the Book of Acts. If the Gospels are literary fakes then can both the Letters and Acts be proven to be fakes as well? The Institute’s next book, covers these issues in detail, providing additional support for Atwill’s thesis.

        (3) Atwill will not endear himself to other NT scholars. He insists on a very high standard of evidence, and backs his findings where necessary with statistical analyses. This is similar to his ground breaking work on dating the Scrolls, published in the Dead Sea Scrolls Journal. Atwill sets standards that, to their frustration, other scholars will have difficulty in matching.” [Review by John Hudson, author of the forthcoming God's Forgery]

        Why would the Romans go to the trouble of writing and disseminating such a text?

        The Jewish War, culminating in the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70 CE, had devastated the Mediterranean economy, and the Romans were anxious to prevent another messianic outbreak, which could easily lead to another 500,000 deaths-as the Bar Kochba revolt would demonstrate a generation later. In order to make any reconstruction of the country lasting, the Romans needed to offer the Jews alternative stories that would distract them from the messianic messages inherent in the Torah, and persuade them to accept Roman values.

        According to Atwill, the Romans’ solution to these problems was to create a special kind of post-war propaganda. They called it in Greek evangelion, a technical term meaning “good news of military victory.” In English, it is translated as “gospel.” The name is in fact ironic humor: the Romans were amusing themselves with the notion of making the Jews accept, as the actions of the Messiah Jesus, what were in fact literary echoes of the very battles in which the Romans had defeated the Jews’ armies. A further joke was buried in unmistakable parallels between the life of Jesus and that of Titus: in worshiping Jesus, the Jews who adopted Christianity, as it came to be called, were in fact hailing the Emperor of their conquerors as god.

        To replace the Torah, then, the Romans created a literary equivalent, the gospel of Matthew (and shortly thereafter the Hellenistic and Roman versions known as Luke and Mark). The central literary character, called Jesus (or Joshua) inhabits a plot with various peculiar features: he begins his efforts by the Lake of Galilee; sends a legion of devils out of a demon-possessed man and into pigs; offers his flesh to be eaten; mentions signs of the destruction of Jerusalem; in Gethsemane a naked man escapes; Jesus is captured at Gethsemane on the Mount of Olives; Simon denies knowing him; he is crucified with two other men and only he survives; he is taken down from the cross by a man called Joseph of Arimathea; his disciple John survives but his disciple Simon is sent off to die in Rome; after his death his disciple Judas dies by eviscerating himself.

        Each of these peculiar events has a parallel in the writings of Josephus, our main record of the military encounter between the Judeans and their Roman conquerors-even to the unusual crucifixion in which three men are crucified, and a man named Joseph takes one, who survives, down. To give a flavor of the humor buried in this grand Roman joke, we see that where, in Josephus, the crucifixions take place at Thecoe, which translates as the “Village of the Inquiring Mind,” the gospel’s satiric version takes place at Golgotha, or the “Hill of the Empty Skull.”

        Events at the Lake of Galilee launch the Judean careers of both Titus and Jesus. There Jesus called his disciples to be ‘fishers of men’. There the Roman battle took place in which Titus attacked a band of Jewish rebels led by a leader named Jesus. The rebels fell into the water and those who were not killed by darts “attempted to swim to their enemies, the Romans cut off either their heads or their hands” (Jewish War III, 10). Men were indeed pulled out of the water like fish.

        As for the episode of the Gadarene swine-in which demons leave a Gadara demoniac at Jesus’ bidding and then enter into a herd of 2,000 swine, which rush wildly into the lake and drown-Josephus recounts the Roman campaign in which Vespasian marched against Gadara. In the same way that the demons were concentrated in one demoniac, Josephus describes the faults of all the rebels being concentrated in the one head of the rebel leader John. Then, rushing about “like the wildest of wild beasts,” the 2000 rebels rushed over the cliff and drowned.

        To take a third example, Josephus describes how Titus went out without his armor (and therefore to a soldier metaphorically naked) in the garden of Gethsemane, was nearly caught and had to flee. The parallel in the gospel of Mark is a naked young man who appears from nowhere in the Garden of Gethsemane and flees.

        So far over dozen of these parallels have been identified -many of which had already been discovered by other scholars. But Atwill is the first researcher to have identified the overall pattern. The pattern in each case is the same. This fulfills the criterion for ‘good’ parallels set out by James R. Davila in his paper ‘The Perils of Parallels’, University of St Andrews Divinity School, (April 2001), which states that “patterns of parallels are more important than individual parallels” and “the larger and more complex the pattern of parallels, the more we should take them seriously.”
        Since the events occur in Josephus in exactly the same order as their counterpart events in the Gospels, probability theory can then be used to assess the likelihood that this might be due simply to chance, or instead, that one source copied the other. The calculation shows that it is over 99.9999% certain that one account was written based upon the other. This calculation takes a conservative approach that assumes that, once used, each of the eleven items could not be used again. The probability is thus calculated as 11 factorial, or 11x10x9x8x7x6x5x4x3x2x1 .This would equal 1 chance in 39,916,800. Expressed as a percentage, this means that it is 99.999997% certain that one account influenced the other. In other words, the likelihood that these parallel sequences occurred by chance is less than 0.000003%–effectively zero. (The alternative approach would assign truly random possibilities for each of the events, in which case the odds are calculated as eleven to the eleventh power, or one chance in 285,311,670,611, for an even more remote probability of 0.0000000003%.)

        Since it is impossible to imagine that the Romans would have invented accounts of battles taking place in locations marked 50 years earlier by the ministry of Jesus, we need an alternative explanation, of which there is really only one, and it is Atwill’s in Caesar’s Messiah. The Gospels were written in the late 70s and 80s CE, about the same time as Josephus’ The Jewish War. Key events in the life of Jesus were written as literary satires of the Roman battles, ambushes, crucifixions, cannibalisms, etc., in the military campaign of Titus Caesar, as recounted in Josephus. Rather than four different communities separated in time and space writing the NT Gospels (the traditional understanding), they were written together as a single literary undertaking-possibly at the Imperial Court. The Jews who ended up following the false Messianic literary character ‘Jesus’ would, unbeknownst to them, really be worshipping the Emperor Titus. [They predated Jesus's ministry 40 years(one generation to the Jews) so he could predict, as he does the destruction of Jerusalem and the coming of the "Son of Man" which is Titus. Never, in the New Testament does Jesus refer to himself as the Son of Man. Jesus predicts the destruction of Jerusalem precisely as Titus destroyed it! How convenient!]

        Perhaps the most important new evidence for the ahistoricity of Jesus is the reading that Caesar’s Messiah provides of a critical passage in Josephus’ other major work, Jewish Antiquities. This is the famous ‘Testimonium’ passage in which is supposedly the major independent textual source for the historical existence of Jesus. Atwill demonstrates that this text is genuinely by Josephus. However, when read in context with the surrounding passages, it amounts to a confession admitting that the Flavian emperors invented the character of Jesus to deceive the Jews into worshipping a false messiah. The reader merely has to read the text as it was originally composed, using a well-known Hebrew compositional technique found in the Book of Leviticus, and known as ‘pedimental composition’. This technique gives emphasis to the central passage of text by framing it with mirrored passages either side. (Thus, Leviticus 19, which concerns righteous dealing, is framed by two chapters about prohibitions).

        Applied to Jewish Antiquities, the Testimonium passage about Jesus is evidently the left hand side of a triptych. The right hand side passage is about Paul, and the figure in the central panel , who is a composite of all three Flavian Emperors, wears the mask of a false god to have sex with a woman he could not persuade with gifts and money. The central focus of the triptych is that the Roman Emperors did not care about ‘this business of names’ but were willing to pretend to be a false god in order to be worshipped by the Jews. Patterns of word parallelisms link across the three panels of the triptych, to reveal the true story. (For example, the word hedone used for the Emperor’s sexual enjoyment is also used-quite inappropriately-for the way that Christ’s followers worship him, thereby linking the two stories).

        Professor Robert Eisenman of California State University describes Atwill’s research as rendering contemporary Christian scholarship so challenged that it is now “looking into the abyss”. It is worth noting, in this regard, that the general scholarly consensus that there was a historical, Jewish Jesus is itself largely a recent historical idea, traceable to Abraham Geiger in the 1860′s. He persuaded scholars that the Gospels were an account of a historical Jewish Jesus, a typical Pharisee of his day. Since then this view, and with it the notion of Christianity as a development of Judaism, has become the dominant paradigm in Christianity. However, as the new discoveries in Caesar’s Messiah make clear, this is not just misleading, but a dangerous concession to a false system of belief. The Romans created this new religion deliberately to humiliate the Jews and to keep them in submission. For contemporary Jewish scholars to collude with this Roman literary invention, and to even pretend that this fictional character had historic reality, is the height of irony.

        In the past, evidence had been put forward to suggest that the NT gospels are literary accounts containing mythological accretions. However, Christians have been able to dismiss that evidence on the grounds that underneath it all there ‘must’ be a Historical Jesus. Atwill’s discovery changes all that. There was no historical Jesus and the Gospels were Roman imitations of Jewish sacred texts created by the Flavian Emperors as ironical ‘good news’ to deceive the Jews. It is one thing for Christians to use works of literature as their sacred documents. It is quite another for them to continue using what have now been discovered to be deliberate Roman fakes about a non existent Messiah.

        In closing, Atwill’s book utterly demolishes any weak argument that any apologist could ever offer for an historical Jesus.

        http://freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2371

        • LifeIs

          Truthseeker007: You are seeing pictures in clouds. And you need to choose ONE story to believe, if any of them are believable. You contradict yourself.

          You gave a short bio of Josephus, but you previously said Josephus is merely the pen name of a Arrius Calpurnius Piso.

          Josephus was in fact a Judaean, and he wrote to explain the Judaeans to the Romans,
          after his capture and enslavement.

          You can’t have a secret mushroom cult (why secret?) AND an open conspiracy to pacify.

          We know what form the pacification of Judaea took. (Mass murder.) That’s Roman
          pacification, every time.

          If you can’t tell the difference between Titus going out without his armor, and a youth
          escaping the grasp of the Temple Guard and fleeing without his clothes, you need to read better.

          Titus wasn’t naked. Titus wasn’t being arrested. Titus fled because he wasn’t equipped to fight.

          The youth in the garden wasn’t naked to start with. He feared arrest and ran away.
          And, his name wasn’t Titus.

          Joseph Atwill is NOT a Bible scholar, by the way. You are reading shallow nonsense.

    • Amminadab

      Wrong just as 100% of so called prophecies on BIN are wrong.

    • Neil Armstrong

      The details are not entirely irrelevant and if things go differently than what we interpret scripture to say about the Gog Magog war it wouldn’t be the first time that followers of Zionist belief systems were not exactly right. The majority are taught to believe this conflict is the final battle of Armageddon, and in scripture it certainly appears to mirror that very well in many ways. It’s just that the anti-christ comes onto the world stage after this battle, and Jesus returns to stay after Armageddon. Being taught to expect the return of the messiah after the Gog Magog war will cause many to fall away and to accept the demands of the anti-christ. Old testament prophets do not mention that the Gog Magog war is the official start of the Tribulation, but Ezekial gives very detailed information about the events following this conflict for the next 7 years beginning immediately following this event, including the rebuilding of the 3rd and final temple built by man, I consider that a strong hint. It looks like we are about to find out exactly how things play out. In the early part of 2010 I believe what I was shown was that the event known as the Gog Magog war is from that moment moving forward into it’s completion, and that it’s happening officially marks the beginning of Daniels 70th week, which unlike the 69th which exists with no set determinate time period will be 7 years. When I was shown this it was also shown to me that time itself does not exist outside the world of man, and if you want to find yourself stuck trying to solve a rubik’s cube in the dark for a decade then try to understand that for yourself. I get it in the form of a metaphor, it’s just I can not find the words to put it into an understandable form that I can share with others. Everything changes immediately after the Gog Magog war, and it would be fitting that this is also the time in which the rapture of the church happens, it just doesn’t have to for events to progress. When you see the Gog Magog war happen you are officially in the proverbial SHTF situation, if it hasn’t occurred yet it’s about to.

    • Jarheadusmc

      In 1956 Father Herman Kramer published a book called “The Book of Destiny”, this book was the result of over 30 years of studying all the comments and teachings of the Church from the time of Christ, through the Fathers and Doctors of the Church up until the 20th century. No private prophecy or other outside additions were included in the book. Father Herman Kramer, adept Latin, Greek and Hebrew, gathered all that has been taught by the Church concerning the Apocalypse or Revelations, studies and teachings from the early Church Fathers from the years 33 to 700′s, the same from the Doctors of the Church, from the most learned men of all ages, many of whom Latin, Hebrew, Aramic, Greek, and Arabic were second languages to them. All the symbolism, there history’s, there different interpretations etc, all included.

      Father Kramer takes the Apocalypse line by line, explaining what each says, represents, meant back then, interpreted in the light of the original languages, etc. He explains that the Apocalypse is a history, in order, of the Church up until the end of this world. Father Kramer explains that the whole history of the Apocalypse up to 1956, and then exclaims that from that point on we have to rely only on our educated “guess” in relation to what has passed, the whole of Scripture and Tradition etc.

      In the 4th century, Pope St. Damasus I, ordered St. Jerome and his monks, who knew the languages of old as if they were their own, Hebrew, Latin, Greek, and Aramaic, to gather all the writings of the Apostles and Old Testament and eliminate the hundreds of false epistles and gospels floating around in Christianity. Many person on hearing the Apostles or other priests reading the epistles (letters) and gospels, in maybe good faith, wrote them down as “they thought them to mean or say” often quite different from the original meanings. St. Jerome and his monks then gathered all they could of the gospels and epistles and against their knowledge and learning gathered together what we call today the New Testament. At the same time they took both the Hebrew Old Test. and the Greek Old Test. and with what they determined was authentic scripture from all of them, put them together in the order we have today and called it the “Bible” which is Greek for collection of books.

      Some notes are that Christ and His Apostles when quoting scripture, quoted from the Greek Old Test exclusively. Commerce and trading had caused many Jews to move to Alexandria and as their children grew up knowing mostly Greek, they had a need for a Greek translation which was done by some 70 or so elders into the Greek Septugaint. In the Greek edition, which Our Lord and the Apostles quoted from are the same number of books that are in the Catholic Bible, in particular the Latin Vulgate. There are also 22 other books of inspired scripture that are mentioned in the bible by the Apostles that had even been lost around the time of Christ to the world.

      So, firstly we see that there are many more books of scripture that have been lost in history and antiquity. The so called Apocraphra, from even the first several centuries were called forgeries rife with errors and insertions of by their authors which were not the Apostles.

      In scripture we read that the Apostles teach to….hold fast those teachings which you have received either by word or mouth, by epistle or tradition. So, in the Catholic Church both Tradition and the Scripture have equal say and authority, with no contradiction.

      Now: It was the Catholic Church, the only Christian Church in existence up until the 15th or 16th century, that gave us the Bible that we have today. Luther, an apostate Catholic priest, later threw out seven books of the Old Test and parts of Daniel and Esther; he intended to also discard the Epistle of St. James, the Gospel of St. John and parts of the Apocalypse but was warned by his co-conspirators not to do so, by their own admission. So, today only the Catholic Bible has the original books of Scripture whereas the Protestant bibles are missing seven books and parts of Daniel and Esther of the Old Test. Luther’s excuse was that “he” did not believe in those parts of scripture.

      All, even the Mormons, who are a Masonic Cult, credit the Catholic Church with the keeping and preserving of scripture.

      One of the Apostles upon seeing a man reading scripture asks him what he is reading, to which he replies, scripture, and what does it teach asks the Apostle, to which the person says how can I know unless I be taught (as many things in scripture are hard to understand even for those who have abundant knowledge and education), and the Apostle says, how can you be taught unless someone be “sent”. Now who does the sending???

      You can trace every Catholic priest from his ordination (whether he is a bad or good priest as we see one of the very first Apostles, Judas was a traitor as were many more up until today) all the way back to the Apostles. Each priests powers of his ordination come from the line direct to the Apostles, each has been “sent” to teach and baptize. Where and who sent or sends the Protestant ministers or teachers – but themselves – and they can trace their authority only to the 16th century or even after. Prior to the 16th century never has it been written or read in Christianity what Protestanism teaches today. Scripture is their only source of teaching, that came from the Catholic Church who only have the authority to teach from scripture, given them by the Apostles and Christ Himself.

      One last note: In my chapel/Church we have a very well stocked bookstore with religious items and books, which includes the Douay/Rheims bible. The Douay/Rheims bible was the first to be translated from the original Latin Vulgate into English during the Protestant Deformation. Our bookstore clerk once mentioned to me how many Protestant ministers have called him to order the Douay/Rheims bible to which I asked why? He said that they tell him that the Douay/Rheims English translation is the only one that is the “exact” translation from the Latin into the English language verbatim, with no insertions, private interpretations, or deviations from the languages. One is left with only the exact translation from the original texts minus anyones own personal translation, like – this is what I think it means or similar.

      So: Remember that if you want to read or understand or be taught scripture, only the Catholic Church, who “owns” the original Bible and its interpretation, has the any real authority to comment on scripture, all others are nothing but fakes and imposters.

      Yes, the Church itself is in harms way at the moment, where even her “own” are being traitorous and abandoning near 2000 years of true doctrine. All this has been prophesized and God will shortly come to the aid of the Church but not before His Justice has been appeased for those who have gone into apostasy, abandoned the truth, and for the sins of abortion, homosexuality, contraception, divorce, pornography, fraud, greed, which have all reached epidemic proportions. In the end the Sacred Heat of Jesus will triumph with His mother Queen of Heaven. It was through Our Lady, the Mother of God, that we received Jesus and it is through her that we can get to Jesus and the Father. The “Word was made flesh by the Holy Spirit” which makes Mary the “Spouse” of the Holy Ghost, Mother of the Son of God and Daughter of the Father – dare anyone to say anything against the “Mother of God” – what would you do if someone denigrated or attacked your mother – Hail Mary Full of Grace.

      • Truthseeker

        Your church soon will have great power. The world will worship her. Many miracles will be shown.

        The blood of God’s Saints will flow once more, they will not worship her and she will hunt them down and kill them.

    • Pix

      “Future Bible Prophecy: “Russia Will Be Fire-Bombed Into Oblivion!””

      Thus proving Christians are hate mongering, vile, diseased, pathetic excuses for human beings.

      Where is the love :?:

      :lol:

    • TombRaider

      Not to be a party pooper but to date, how many deaths have their been in the name of religion?

      Just saying….

    • Raphael

      So Russia must be the evil guy at all cost, no matter what!
      BTW Magog should be in today’s Poland. Doesn’t fit the scenario, huh?
      How about Revelation 20 where it is plainly said Gog and Magog war comes AFTER the Second Coming of Jesus and AFTER the Millennium reign! Seems you are off by some thousand years or so.

      I don’t know how you understand Christianity but if we are speaking of honest Christians on Earth who keep the Commandments today, despite their personal sufferings or crosses that are many in a country with quite many challenges, we are speaking of the Russian people that endured most of all. The Western people if they had the same lot of history would have abandoned Christ many times over. As it nearly happened during the Roman persecutions. The Russians endured Stalin’s persecutions. Only to be called anti-christian and Gog by people who have no idea what it is Russia today, Russian culture, spirituality, people. It is not just unfair to them. It is not true.

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