The Gog and Magog Prophecies Will Not Be Fulfilled for Over 1,000 Years
The Gog and Magog prophecies in the Bible are not something that plays out in the dispensation we now find ourselves in. It plays out after the Millennial Reign. Here is the timeline of end time events in regards to the Second Coming, the 1,000 year Millennial Reign, the battle of Gog and Magog, and the new heavens and new earth:
The Second Coming is when Jesus returns on the clouds:
“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him…”
—Revelation 1:7
That is the end of this age, the end of mankind as we know it. The Second Coming occurs at the 7th trumpet, which coincides with the 3rd woe, which coincides with the rapture, or the meeting of the Lord in the clouds:
“Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
—1st Thessalonians 4:17
So believers meet Jesus in the clouds at the Second Coming (rapture) to be with Him forever more. Then the 1,000 year Millennial Reign takes place. Then after the Millennial Reign, Jesus sets foot upon the earth as described in chapter 14 of Zechariah:
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
—Zechariah 14:1-7
Verses 2 and 3 above are the battle with Gog and Magog, which corresponds with Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 and Revelation chapter 20, which takes place after the 1,000 year Millennial Reign:
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
—Revelation 20:7-9
Notice above in Zechariah 14:6-7, it talks about the unique time, where it is always light. This corresponds to the new heavens and the new earth (which are created after the Millennium) and the new Jerusalem:
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
—Revelation 21:23-25
So to recap, the Second Coming/rapture occurs and believers meet Jesus in the clouds. It is from heaven where the saints reign over the earth from during the 1,000 year Millennial Reign. And then, after the 1,000 year Millennial Reign, the nations surround Jerusalem and the battle with Gog and Magog takes place where God utterly destroys them and Jesus sets foot upon the mount of Olives. And then the new heavens and new earth are created and the New Jerusalem comes down out of heaven and this is the unique time where there is no night in the New Jerusalem. It is then when the sons of God rule and reign over the earth from the New Jerusalem.
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People are being misled by articles on BIN like the following where they are telling people the Gog and Magog prophecies are occurring now:
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And Lisa Haven disabled comments in the above article, which is a tactic used by those not willing or not able to defend what they have written. The truth is able to withstand all assaults.
I’ve noticed that she’s been disabling the comments section to her stories lately. Maybe the constant insults she receives has something to do with it.
It’s interesting that everybody (Christian Protestant) has a different take on the 1000 year Millennial Reign, It’s hard to say this person is right and this person is wrong. I always thought that the Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 war had something to do with Russia/Iran invading Israel before the 1000 year reign. You give an interesting interpretation of prophecy only because I can’t see Russia invading Israel in todays modern day. But who knows. I believe we are living in the end of days. It’s bad am123 and its only going to get worse.
Yes engineer, both Lisa and Lyn have disabled comments and that’s certainly not the way to do business if you ask me! Cannot the truth withstand all assaults? As the saying goes, if you can’t handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen! If you want to write it, I say defend it against any and all comers!
But anyway engineer, as you said, things is indeed bad and indeed it is only going to get worse. I think all need to put on their spiritual seatbelts for the ride is going to get bumpy to say the least!
Comments have been opened on the post, fyi.
God bless you am123.
Well I’m glad you opened up comments Lisa, hopefully you will leave comments open going forward may I ask?
I disagree with your opinion but would have to do some research to tell why for sure. I have heard it taught in a church that we know it happens previous to the war due to a new Jerusalem with temple will be brought down in place of the current Jerusalem at the end of the Trib. Also Eziekiel counts the days at 7 years for burning the enemies weapons. We are in Daniels 69th week, the Gog Magog marks the official beginning of the Tribulation, although the 69th has been extended greatly the other 69 weeks including the 70th are generally accepted to represent exactly 7 years as we know years, same duration as the Tribulation. A lot of people confuse the Gog Magog war with Armageddon, they are not the same battle one marks the beginning the other the end.
The rapture is not the second coming for as you said we meet him in the clouds. At the end of the 7 year tribulation Jesus returns, his second coming with His saints setting foot on the Temple Mt. to destroy the anti-christ. Not to argue with you, it’s just my belief….peace.
am123, there is a lot about the 1000 year reign I’d like to know and you did not mention. Maybe you can shed some light on the subject of the second resurection of the lost souls who will not be going to heaven and will do battle with the saints after the 1000 years. Would like to hear your take on things.
Interesting question engineer on the Millennial Reign etc. Here is my take on some of the parts and parcels of this puzzle, I’ll give it my best shot:
At the end of this age when Jesus comes riding on the clouds (REV 1:7), at that point, I believe that apparently half of the believers in Jesus will lose their lives at the Second Coming because they will try and run to save their lives and hence will lose it. And when I say lose it, I mean like Adam and Eve lost it—they lost their spiritual life, not their physical life in the garden of Eden. Same thing here. The nations of the earth will be populated by mortals upon the earth, leftovers upon the earth of all the destruction of the 3 woes of Revelation. They will lose their eternal lives at the Second Coming because they will not be ready. Those who are ready for Jesus and meet Him in the clouds when He comes will partake of the first resurrection with Jesus and rule with Him during the Millennial Reign (see REV 20:4) ruling over the nations on earth who, at the end of the 1,000 years, will be in number as the sand of the sea (see REV 20:8).
Concerning the destruction of the antichrist:
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
—-DAN 7:11-12
When Jesus comes riding upon the clouds and destroys the antichrist and his army (the antichrist and the false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire as per Revelation 19:20), according to Daniel 7, there are others who lives will be prolonged for a season and a time.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that the birth pains of Jesus’ return have begun. Of course, those in the world and even many in the so-called church are completely unaware of it. And because they are unaware, because they are not watching and are not ready, they can be caught up at any time in the ever-increasing destructions of the birth pains. And yet, for Christians, in spite of all the urging in the Scriptures, apparently half of the believers (I get the 50% from Matthew 24 and Luke 17 where one is taken and one is left behind) will still have some darkness in them and in them will be found fear when Jesus returns. They will not remain firm until the end and they will try and run to save their lives in which case they will lose it. They may have been watching, but they will not be ready for that more than awesome event, that climactic end of the age, that exclamation point at the end of the age known as the Second Coming. If there is even one iota of fear in them, one iota of not being ready, then the great glory, magnitude, ferocity, voracity, and rapidity of that climatic and cataclysmic event will overwhelm them. They will try and run to save their life and hence lose it (Luke 17:33). And I’m talking about believers (not those who have received the mark of the beast and are tossed into the lake of fire) who will lose their eternal lives and enter into the Millennial Reign in their mortal bodies. And apparently, for however many generations (20?), at the end of the 1,000 years, mortal men and women will proliferate upon the earth and will number as the sand. And Satan is let loose from the Abyss to deceive the nations (Gog and Magog) who surround Jerusalem to attack it but fire comes down from heaven to destroy them (Revelation 20:7-9, Ezekiel 38, Zechariah 14). The flesh of those who attack Jerusalem will rot away instantaneously like in a spontaneous combustion:
“And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.”
—Zechariah 14:12
And at that time, the Devil
will be done away with for good, thrown into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:10).
During the Millennial Reign, I believe the Jews will be worshipping the LORD in the rebuilt Temple during this time. For Jesus came to fulfill the Law, which remains intact for this present heaven and earth (Matthew 5:17-18).
Then after the 1,000 year Millenial Reign of Jesus Christ, there will be survivors left from the nations who surrounded Jerusalem to attack it, and from that time forward, they will go unto the New Jerusalem year after year to worship the LORD and celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles (Zechariah 14:16).
It is at that point, after the 1,000 year reign, that the LORD will create a new heaven and earth (Revelation 21) and then the rules and regulations of the new temple and holy mount shall be as spoken of by Ezekiel and so shall the divisions of the land be as spoken of by Ezekiel. And at that time, the mountain of the LORD’s Temple, MOUNT ZION, will be chief among all the mountains (Isaiah 2:2).
The Temple will not be in the city proper of the NEW JERUSALEM, but will be in a northern suburb of the NEW JERUSALEM as mapped out by Ezekiel. Half of the RIVER OF WATER OF LIFE will flow out from the northern suburb of the NEW JERUSALEM from the south side of the Temple (Ezekiel 47:1) into the Dead Sea (Ezekiel 47:8, Zechariah 14:8). The other half of the RIVER OF THE WATER OF LIFE will flow from the THRONE of the LORD and the LAMB down the middle of the great street of the NEW JERUSALEM (REV 22:1), the Holy City, into the Mediterranean Sea (Ezekiel 47:8).
Jerusalem will be populated by immortal AND mortal people from that time forward forever and ever. Those who receive their immortal bodies by believing in Jesus are the immortals of course. They are the sons of God. They are the ones who inherit the feast of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob:
“I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.”
—MATTHEW 8:11
It is these of are of the house of David and “shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them” (Zechariah 12:8).
And yet, the New Jerusalem (and the nations of the earth) shall also be populated by mortal beings:
17For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
20There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
—ISAIAH 65-17-20
4 “Thus says the LORD of hosts:
‘ Old men and old women shall again sit
In the streets of Jerusalem,
Each one with his staff in his hand
Because of great age.
5 The streets of the city
Shall be full of boys and girls
Playing in its streets.’
—ZECHARIAH 8:4-5
And the name of Jerusalem from that time onward forever more will be THE LORD IS THERE (see very last verse of EZEK)!
Incurable pedant that I am, I should point out that the word is “Climactic”, not “climatic”, am123; ie something which has come to a climax, rather than some form of meteorological phenomenon.
The latter word gives altogether the wrong idea, of course.
Not that most people will notice.
I do not have anywhere near the scriptural knowledge that you possess; but for what it’s worth, I am struck by Peter’s words at 2 Peter 3, 8.; ie that we should not take this idea of a millennial reign at face value. I have been reading that in the Greek, unless there is a specific number associated with the “thousand years”; then we should assume the meaning is “thousands of years”.
Furthermore, at John 14:1-3, the Lord tells His disciples that He is coming again. He tells them that where He is, there they may be too. This strongly implies to me, not that He is coming to earth ever again, but that at the rapture, the saved will join Him where He is, ie they will leave this soon-to-be massively judged and bombed-out shell of an earth, which will then be burned up with unquenchable fire together with all its contents, both animate and inanimate. I cannot see why the Lord God should first devastate this earth, turn its waters to blood, inflict extinction-level earthquakes upon it, kill all the creatures in the sea, etc; and then start to rule here over those who have already rejected Him.
I think that the new heaven and earth will come with the Lord when He returns.
I have to have some sort of outline understanding of end-time events which can be modified by more advanced teaching, of the kind you are offering, but as one or two have already stated, they do not concur with everything you say, so I suspect that there is more to be revealed to the saints in due course.
Thanks for the correction on “climactic”, HereAmI. I know you corrected me in the past about that (I have changed my profile), I should get it right the next time. Or maybe I should throw something in there about chemtrails and those trying to control the weather and then I could use climatic
.
Regarding 2 Peter 3:8, I think a key thing to remember is it says a day to the Lord is AS a thousand years. I just think what Peter is referring to is our perspective on time versus the Lord’s perspective on time. A long time for us (a thousand years) is but a short time for the Lord. A similar thing is proclaimed in Psalms:
“For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.”
—Psalm 90:4
So I don’t put any stock in the day equals a thousand years thing. But as far as the Millennial Reign goes, it says it is a literal thousand years as delineated in each and every of the following verses from chapter 20 of REV, verses 2,3,4,5,6, and 7. So I have no reason to believe otherwise.
Regarding the timeline of events, like I said in my article, I believe we will meet Jesus in the clouds at the Second Coming and He doesn’t set foot upon the earth at that particular point in time. It is not until after the Millennial Reign that He sets foot on the mount of Olives. Some expect Him to set foot upon the mount of Olives at the Second Coming. But I don’t think you can make that case Scripturally because chapter 14 of Zechariah is tied in with the new heavens and new earth because of what I pointed out in my article (the unique time where there is no night). Armageddon culminates at the Second Coming, which is at the start of the Millennial Reign, and then the Gog and Magog thing culminates at the end of the Millennial Reign. So this whole period of time encompasses what is called the Day of the Lord. A lot of stuff happens at the beginning of it (antichrist, 3 woes, etc.) and a lot of stuff happens at the end of it (Gog+Magog).
To have a gap or period of time between the Second Coming, Jesus coming upon the clouds, and when He actually sets foot upon the mount of Olives is not without Scriptural precedent. The learned Jews at the time of the first coming of Jesus expected Messiah to do everything all at once. But as it turns out, there is a time gap between what He did on the cross and what He will do at the Second Coming.
So I am just giving some food for thought by trying to delineate the end time things proclaimed in Scripture so people can chew on these things and examine them in light of the Scriptures.
@ engineer,
Here are some more thoughts on the Millennial Reign:
Jesus was and is our model. We are to emulate Him and become more and more like Him as we mature in our Christian walk. His ministry on earth, how He conducted Himself, is our model for our time here on earth. But right now, He is at the right hand of the Father in heaven and He has His body on earth, the Church. He is influencing and controlling things down here on earth, directing and guiding His servants, the members of His body. We don’t know the specifics of the mechanics, but we know it is so. The Holy Spirit animates, inspires, coerces, protects, directs, etc. So Jesus sits upon His throne in heaven and in effect directs and manipulates things down here on earth all the while not encroaching upon the will of men but yet controlling the totality of things. And I believe that what Jesus is doing right now, what I just described, is going to be our model we are to emulate in the Millennial Reign. That is, for example, you would be sitting upon your throne in heaven controlling the “body of engineer” if you will, or those given unto you to rule and reign over as your reward (see Matthew 25:21). During this time, those ruling and reigning with Jesus will not have any interference from Satan, who will be bound for this time. We will be doing our Father’s bidding, influencing those upon the earth in a positive way. So in effect, during the Millennial Reign, Jesus is going to give us the keys to the car so to speak.
How can anyone be so sure about prophecy nowadays when there are so many people being misled. With all these signs and prophecies coming to past. Who’s real and who’s not? Recently I’ve seen the testimonies of people who are saying this so-called prophet of Facebook– “Prophet Levar Samuel” is the real deal. Is this just another prophet looking to sink his teeth into the sheep? How can one discern? Someone help me. He even has this fan page full of testimonies. Do you guys think those people made up these things? I’m searching for truth and I would like to know if any of you believe in actual prophecy anymore.
I believe there is still prophecy. But the way you discern if a prophecy is real or not is by studying the Bible. When you study the real thing, you will know when you are looking at something false. For example, to spot counterfeit money, people do not study counterfeit bills, they study real money so that they will know when they are looking at fake money. Study the Bible and if a teaching does not line up with it, you know it is false. And false prophets are known by the fruit they bear (see Matthew 7:15-23).
There is an ongoing debate on that theory.
“It is from heaven where the saints reign over the earth from during the 1,000 year Millennial Reign”
The above statement is incorrect. The 1000 year reign is here on EARTH. Going to heaven is not the reward of the saints.
“It plays out after the Millennial Reign” Another incorrect statement. Brother, war will not continue into the Millennium. War will cease forever and ever hallelu-Yahweh.
…and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4
“war will not continue into the Millennium. War will cease forever and ever”
The following happens AFTER the Millennium:
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
—Revelation 20:7-9
I believe BIN should do away with the “disable comments option” in order to keep the flow of ideas moving. But people should comment in a respectful way. One can disagree without being obnoxious. The open forum concept is really the better way to go.
I think Christ is coming now , soon and THEN the 1000 years will begin!!!
I agree with that.
I do not believe it will be 1000 years but soon. I think God is on his way to us now and has been, fighting evil forces along the way since 2007. With all the chemicals being sprayed in the atmosphere, radiation, all killing the trees, and affecting humans, we will not last more other than 50 years at the most!!! There is almost a shortage of food and water if you haven’t noticed!!!
People you need to be careful regarding this rapture idea. First we are not in the last days yet, as several other prophecies have yet to be fulfilled. I will just name you two of them > Damascus, and the rebuilding of the temple, which involves removal of the Dome of the Rock etc.
If you read the scriptures carefully, Yeshua said he will come after a series of events have taken place. Here is two more > The Two Witnesses and of their deaths, and the Abomination on the Temple Mount of which at that time the Antichrist REVEALS HIMSELF ALONG WITH Masteema (aka Perdition, Angel of Destruction, Satan etc) < means to say its already built OK, and the Great Tribulation has to occur of which we all at that time will have to go thru that trial.
Now keep in mind here, this Tribulation is going to be the worst humanity has ever seen nor ever shall see again, and had not the days been shortened no flesh be saved!!!!! So ask yourselves what it could be that we have never seen???
Humans have seen the Sons of God already, has seen the Giants etc. It has to be something humanity has never seen or experienced ever since its existence OK. Why not try seeing the demons in actual form and how they afflict you your mind and body!!!!! Try canniballism, or maybe animalism etc. Something so evil that they can control humans because they have the power to do so.
At the time of the Messiahs second coming, some will stay sleeping and some will rise from the graves and those that remain still alive will then meet the Messiah in the clouds and air.
There is no so called RAPTURE as many will be expecting. Those of that generation will be the ones to experience the upcoming horror of horrors.
Daveyo, please see this article for what the pre-trib Rapture actually is, as opposed to what its critics think it is: http://www.fether.net/index.php?page=refuting-slander-against-the-pre-trib-rapture/
It will not be a “secret”, that’s for sure.
As Dan. 9′s “70 Weeks” prophecy states, the purpse of the 70 weeks is to refine and purify Israel, is focused on the literal city of Jerusalem, and is to pour out the wrath of God on the people of earth. The church is none of those things. Though we have suffered persecution for the entire age, we are exempt from the wrath of God. Both Daniel and Jesus described that time as unlike anything that has ever been or will ever be again. And Jesus himself said to pray that we will “escape all that is about to happen”. So escape is what Jesus taught, not an act of cowardice.
Interesting to say also as an addition, Jacob and his sons and a few others have seen the end of the age and wrote it in the books, of which much of it is gone. So really we do not know exactly what this Great Tribulation will be overall.
Messiah according to the scriptures does things on the New Moon!!!!! His coming is on the New Moon, and on the Feast of the Trumpets. That much we do know officially. Since we are a ways off yet, we are the 3rd to last generation those born before 1961. The 2nd to last starts after 2023. The last generation will start 2093. From the year 2100, there are 8 New Moons falling on the Feast of the Trumpets. Most particularly between 2160 to 2171!!!!!! What date or year I do not know, but I do think much will take place within the next 150 years give or take. As of this moment, I think we still have a ways to go, but indeed its short looking just only 150 years so to speak. The KEY is to watch what happens in Israel, and no place else. Israel and the prophecies have to be fullfilled first OK>
However pray always, and try to do good in your present life and follow Yeshua’s commandments and keep Holy His Sabbath!!!!! What you do now is what will be accounted for later on, if you are worthy to have the first resurrection and if not, you will have to wait till the Great White Throne Judgment.
After the 1,000 years only those whose names are not written in the book of life, will appear, and it will be those who will assemble to do the Great Battle at the end against the Messiah, yet the Messiah will make a final plea for them to repent and to change, because Masteema and the Antichrist will be let out of the prison for only a short season for the last time. This will be the final last stand by Masteema > Satan and the Antichrist. He already knows what is coming upon him, but still he thinks he will win and has a shot to do so.
When this is finished, then everyone will rise from the graves and then stand on the sea of glass and see and be told everything. It will all happen at the twinkling of the eye. Yes that fast folks. All will be Judged and the separation takes place > sheeps from the goats and the goats are sent to the lake of fire. THERE IS NO APPEAL AT THIS TIME. So keep that in mind. It means to say, (That’s all folks) and the curtain closes and the chapter is FINISHED. This Judgment plays no favorites, no gifts of any kind, NOTHING. Its what you did in your life that will count from beginning to end. OK.
I can tell you this right now. Every single person who worships (prays) to Idols, or images or pictures or the sun or the stars or any statue or building WILL NOT BE THE SHEEP but be the GOATS. There is a lot more to list, but you all know what it is. Most of all humanity today will fail and be the goats. Even to ancient times.
There is one other thing mentioned here. The fallen angelic beings who left their first estate, their Judgment. No one knows what will become of them as its not told but its reserved specifically just for them.
The Messiah chose his people and called them Israel. What happens to the Gentiles is another matter, yet to be understood. According to the Book of Jubilees, there is no hope for the Gentiles, which I find disturbing, but I hold on to the faith, that Messiah said all will be saved who call on His Name and Repent before Him and believe He did die on the Cross and shed his Blood, and Rose again on the Third Day.
Gog and Magog. Dictatorship V’s Republic. It’s all about politics, who has the authority, power and thus all the wealth.
Jesus was anti Pharisee, anti Jewish, anti organised anything, he was a republican. He sacrificed his birthright to be the ruler of the world for the sake of the republic.
You do realise that if we got rid of all the dictatorships in the world and replaced them with a republic, that over 99% of the worlds problems would vanish in the blink of an eye?
Sorry to burst your bubble friend, but humanity has not learned a single thing on how to get along with each other, and how to deal with everyday life for the last 4,000 plus years and perhaps beyond that time frame. This also applies to your so called Republic theory and it falls completely flat on its face.
FYI, they have found the chariots used by the Egyptians who attempted to cross the strait of Acquaba, of where Moses led his people thru to escape the Egyptians. You know it and I know it, its impossible for a human to do such a thing to divide the waters and make it dry so they can cross to the other side which is 8 miles long!!!!!
Give thanks to Yeshua for revealing it to Mr. Wyatt, who found it first and reported his findings to the world. After his report it was VERIFIED to be true plus where the Israelites were at the time of the 10 Commandments. To this day now, everybody is stunned from the conclusive evidence of it being true.
Yep like in Libya,Iraq and Egypt.
Amazing. Yet another teacher of falsehoods. A false prophet. Armageddon is so close I can smell it. We are down to one last sign of the end. One last sign!!! The cut off is very very close. Those that turn their back on the Bible, and turn to religion, will die, with no resurrection hope. Turning to religion is turning away from God, and away from Jesus’ sacrifice for us. Religion is used by Satan to help to mislead the entire inhabited Earth.
Either you didn’t read my article or you totally misunderstand it. Yes we are close to Armageddon. Armageddon happens BEFORE the Millennial Reign. Although you are also mistaken about one last sign. Many things have to happen yet before the end comes. For more on that, see:
“Timeline of the SECOND COMING – How to Know When It is Imminent”
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You know, it’s amazing how may people mock whats going on in the world. I for one, see what’s happening to mankind. Wake up sheeple! And I don’t need an A hole preacher on TV to tell me otherwise. Thank you am123 for your time, may the souls who believe this is their only life on earth WAKE UP! I’ve done good for society thru my work. If God finds me worthy of heaven, I look forward to shaking your hand on the other side. May God wake up humanity is my hope. Please pray for me am123. God Bless.
Engineer Out
You’re very welcome engineer. But may I clarify something…..you are not worthy of heaven! I am not worthy of heaven! None of us are worthy of heaven!
But the Good News is this: we don’t have to be worthy, we only have to believe in the One who was worthy! Worthy is the Lamb who was slain! Hallelujah!
Make sure engineer (and all believers reading this) to enter into the rest that is ours as spoken of in chapter 4 of Hebrews. Be like an olive tree:
“But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.”
—Psalm 52:8
Engineer, may grace and peace be unto you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ. May He preserve you in your comings and your goings (as per Psalm 121:8) and may His face shine upon you both now and forever more in Jesus name amen.
Agree with me on that engineer and it shall be done for we have the promise of the Word (see MATT 18:19) and every promise in the Word is yes and amen through Jesus (see 2 CORINTH 1:20)!
From the throne of the Most High flows grace and peace to all who will receive it!
Engineer, you only have to keep hanging on to Jesus and I’ll see you on the other side of the Second Coming!
You are completly distorting the truth! There are two GOG/MAGOG’S. One takes place after the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) This is Ezekiel’s GOG/MAGOG which happens after the rapture and right before the tribulation. http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/prophecy-end-times-chat/86490-information-television-evangelist-wont-touch.html This link provides the evidence Russia is building this Ezekiel Gog/Magog alliance. There is the 7 year tribulation. Then Jesus Christ returns with those who were raptured in Revelation 19:11-20 and the beast anti-Christ and false prophet are thrown into the Lake of Fire. Then after Jesus Christ’s 1000 year reign Revelation 20:4-10 the second Gog/Magog war occurs and fire from heaven devours this Gog/Magog force and the devil is thrown into the Lake of Fire. You did not see the difference. The first Gog winds up as bird food upon the mountains of Israel. (Ezekiel 39:1-4) It would be nice if Before Its News had a speacial thread for people posting the Gog/Magog prophecy. The readers could then see the true reading of the two Gog/Magog’s and realize what Putin is doing is all part of Bible prophecy starting to be fulfilled in front of our very own eyes.
There is only one Gog/Magog scenario and to see why you’re wrong about the rapture, see:
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Anyone who bothers to look up Ezekiel 38:2-39:4 & Revelation 20:4-10 will see the first Gog dies on the mountains of Israel Ezekiel 39:1-4 and the second Gog is consumed by fire from heaven. Revelation 20:8-9. Anyone studying Putin’s building up his armed forces like showed in the link below would know there was two Gog’s. One Gog leads an army against Israel and the other Gog stirs up the whole world to revolt after Jesus Christ reigns for 1,000 years.
http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/prophecy-end-times-chat/86490-information-television-evangelist-wont-touch.html
Again you are mistaken. Gog and Magog is one scenario. You are citing Ezekiel 38 as happening before the Millennial Reign, which is not the case. It happens after the Millennial Reign. During the Millennial Reign, it is a thousand years of peace. People are living peacefully without any walls for protection:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates
—Ezekiel 38:11
Living in peace without security (gates etc.) certainly is not the case today. That will only be during the 1,000 year reign.
The Psalms 83:6-8 regions are northern Iraq & northern Syria =Assur/Assyria. Lebanon= Gebal and Tyre. Jordan=Hagarenes, Edom, Moab & Ammon. Gaza=Philistine territory and the Sinai= Amalek territory. Israel will bring desolation upon these Sunni Arab Jihadist. Psalms 83:17. Then Israel will have a few years peace. Ezekiel 38:11. Russia, Iran and Iran’s allies will then attack Israel in the Gog/Magog war. Ezekiel 38:18-39:4 Gog becomes bird food. Ezekiel 39:1-4 After this war the 7 year tribulation begins with the anti-Christ signing a false peace deal with Israel. Then Jesus Christ returns Revelation 19:11-20 with his army of saints who had been raptured before the Gog/Magog war started. The anti-Christ and false prophet are thrown in the Lake of Fire. Jesus Christ reigns on earth for 1,000 years. Revelation 20:4-10. The second Gog/Magog arise after the 1,000 years and fire from heaven devour Gog/Magog and the devil is then thrown into the Lake of Fire.
There are two Gog-Magog wars one coming up and the last one at the end of the millennium reign of Yahshua. The first one coming up people will be bearing bodies use weapons for fuel, in the last Gog-Magog attack fire come down from heaven and destroys everything and that is the second death that does no harm to Yahshua’s people.
Am123, you said something about 1/2 the believers hiding? And 1/2 not but the half that hide will die? Please expound with biblical references. Please write in the style that a 3 rd grader needs to follow along because that’s about the only way I can take info in.
Concerning the Second Coming, Jesus said this:
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
—Matthew 24:37-41
And in Luke, Jesus said this:
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot’s wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
—Luke 17:26-36
The above is in reference to when Jesus returns. It appears that half of believers will be taken and half will be left behind. I don’t know if we can conclude that it means exactly half of the believers will be taken and half will be left behind, but that appears to be the case. Whether it is exactly half or not, the important thing for each individual believer is if they will be taken or if they will be left behind. Notice in Luke 17:33 it says that whoever seeks to save his life will lose it. So when Jesus comes riding upon the clouds (see REV 1:7), those who are not ready for Jesus will be fearful and try and run to save their lives, in which case they will lose it. But for those that are ready, they will be taken up into the clouds to be with Jesus forever more:
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
—1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
So the picture painted here is believers will either be taken away up in the clouds to receive their immortal bodies, or they will be left behind down on the earth and lose their lives. And when I say they will lose their lives, I mean they will lose their eternal lives, their immortal bodies. They will remain on earth in their mortal bodies and live out the rest of their natural lives and then die.
This all be summed up in this way: when Jesus returns, believers will either fly, meeting Jesus in the clouds, or they will left behind and die. So believers will either fly or they will die. Will you fly or die, that is the question. You want to be part of those that fly. To help you to become part of those that fly and not those that die, see the following:
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I hope this helps. God bless.
From the article:
“One of the other end times signs mentioned in the Bible is the Gog-Magog War.”
Please read your Bible. The Gog/Magog war doesn’t happen until AFTER the Millennial Reign.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
—Revelation 20:7-8
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ooops……wrong article
am123, you make quite a serious mistake with your article.
Gog and Magog might be an unusual name, but that doesn’t mean that the appearance of this name in two parts of the Bible means that the events are the same.
Try comparing the events. They don’t match.
For instance, the name John Little is somewhat unusual. But, that doesn’t mean that every John Little is the same person.
Why do you think the Gog/Magog events described in Ezekiel and Revelation are different? They are not. For example, in Ezekiel, it says this:
“And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,”
—Ezekiel 38:11
This is not before the Millennial Reign. The residents of the land will only be living in peace and unwalled villages during the 1,000 years of peace in the Millennial Reign.