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AFFLICTIONS OF THE RIGHTEOUS

 

 

June 27 2014

 

 

The Book of Daniel and the man behind the book in todays important report. Don’t enpect things to be easy as we are in the end times, yet God WILL deliver us! I have also included Hals weekly newsletter after the video. enjoy!

 

 

Are you prepared?

 

 

June 27th, 2014

This week on ‘The Hal Lindsey Report’The book of Daniel is the most important prophetic book in the Bible, even more than the book of Revelation. This week, however, I will focus, not on the prophecies of Daniel, but on the man and his character. It’s an especially timely study in a world charging headlong into a new dark age. 
Daniel lived one of the most remarkable lives in the history of the world. Even as a teenager, he changed the course of history. But in the story I want to examine this week, many years have gone by. The Medes and Persians had defeated the Babylonians and taken their empire. Darius now ruled. For about twenty years following the death of King Nebuchadnezzar, it had seemed like Daniel’s career was over. But as happened to him so often, he quickly rose through the ranks again. After becoming one of the most important figures in the empire, Daniel’s integrity and the king’s confidence in him ignited the jealousy of his peers. But the only way they could eliminate him was by concocting a plan that depended on his faithfulness to his God. 

As the world grows darker, God can and will prosper and care for His people, but don’t expect everything to be easy. The psalmist wrote, “Many are the afflictions of the righteous.” But he doesn’t stop there. He goes on to affirm, “But the Lord delivers him out of them all.” (Psalm 34:19, NASB) Daniel is testimony to that promise. He made the decision to honor his convictions rather than obey the dictates of the state. By doing so, he assured himself of a terrible fate. He was thrown to the hungry lions. And his friend, King Darius, trapped by the power of his own words, was helpless to intervene. It’s interesting to note that because the law of the Medes and Persians, once signed and confirmed by the king, was unalterable, King Darius found himself facing a dim reflection of the dilemma God Himself once faced when Adam and Eve chose death over life with Him. He loved them, but had given His word that sin always carries a death sentence. And God’s word is infinitely more certain that the law of the Medes and Persians. So in His infinite wisdom, God devised a way for His love to deliver sinners from His wrath while not compromising His righteousness and justice. Jesus Christ took upon Himself a human nature, lived as a true man, and never once sinned. He therefore qualified to voluntarily take upon Himself the penalty and punishment for our sins. He died in our place and secured a true forgiveness for each one who will receive it as a gift. Salvation cannot be given if any human merit is attached to it. Salvation is an absolute gift. 

Tune in this week as I examine how the intractability of the Law of the Medes and Persians, and Daniel’s faith in his God, led to a national revival of faith in the one true God. Don’t miss this week’s Report on TBN, Daystar, CPM Network, The Word Network, various local stations, www.hallindsey.com or www.hischannel.com. Check your local listings.

God Bless,

Hal Lindsey



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    • Jiliane

      Knowledge is needed to show humanity the fight amongst ourselves is pointless.
      All of us created the situation on earth. We must, fix our errors or live in our
      Failures.
      http://Www.alliesforhumanity.org

      • Truthseeker

        jiliane

        Wow, that is deep,

        since you created the earth and you screwed it up, I am all ears waiting to hear your plan to fix what you screwed up.

        If you created the earth you must have great wisdom and knowledge and ability — so what went wrong did you forget what the plan was? Who’s fault is it that the earth is getting ready to self-destruct, can’t be you so we must find someone else to blame –right?

        Do not blame me I had no one thing to do with creating the earth and the heavens, I can’t even get the dog to stop barking much less create one.

        • CrowPie

          Truthseeker

          read more closely…..”All of us created the situation ”

          In your hurry to downgrade…..you missed the entire point Jiliane was making.

    • Knuxyl

      You are highly mistaken to say Jesus Christ never sinned. This website is undoubtedly showing more signs of opinion creating than any other website I have ever seen on the internet. This worship of Jesus’ personality rather than his teachings leads truth seekers away from christianity and gnosticism, while it leaves the christian followers worshipping something they shouldn’t be, while ignoring the commandments, under the assumption as long as they believe Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords and the Son of God, then their soul will be saved. It is unfathomable to comprehend the absurdity of the beliefs of the mass public these days. The body is sending most of you to hell because you listen to its urges instead of your consciousness.

      The signs of intelligent design by the beast to manipulate people through incorrect ideas and behaviors are becoming more prevalent then ever before. The people spreading disinformation like this are condemned for eternity unless they repent and fix their problems before the Day

    • Michael

      Hahahahahaha.

      Absolutely HILARIOUS.

      “The Book of Daniel is more important than even the Revelation of John…”

      To quote, approximately, Mr. Lindsey.

      So, what does he DO?

      Well, it’s OBVIOUS: he INSTANTLY shifts attention from the “Prophecies of Daniel, to Daniel the man, and his character.”

      OF COURSE.

      Reading the Prophecy of Chapter 12, verse 9-10 of the Book of Daniel, for example, may very well convince Christians that the Christian religious ‘authorities’ do not have one CLUE about the Truths that are Prophesied to “remain secret and sealed until the time of the End…”

      That, for example, the Doctrine of “the resurrection” is a Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’.

      Then they would actually have to WORK for a living.

      Michael

      • Mirabolin

        What type of rebirth? Past life recall? The Lord of (reborn and improved) Fleas descending from heaven at the Apocalypse? Hereditary? – Reborn in the flesh of your future fellow priest (Cohanite son for example)? Christ as the anti-type of Adam / the 2nd Adam? Nero as the anti-Christ (next Christ?) type of a future coming ‘spirit of the Anti-Christ’ anti-type?

        John 4:3

        2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;

        3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

        4 You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.…

        (Is the spirit of the anti-christ the anti-type of Christ? Would those in verse 3 that do not ‘confess Jesus’ (the spirit of the anti-Christ) then include … Christ? Or would it only include the Jew Jesus and not the risen Christ and your ‘man’ John wasn’t writing clearly? So this SPIRIT of the anti-type of Jesus, this anti-Jesus, anti-Christ or ‘Jews’ or whatever are the ones that John says will be DESTROYED when Christ returns????

        What, exactly?

        • Michael

          “What type of rebirth?”

          See “The Treatise On the Resurrection”.

          There is the “physical” resurrection–physical rebirth; then, there is the “spiritual” resurrection: the Revelation of the Memory of Creation (Genesis 2:7); and, then, there is the “psychic” resurrection: the revelation of the memories of previous lives–that is, the “angels in heaven” in Jesus’ reply to the Sadducees; the receiving of which Revelation makes those who receive It, according to the words of Jesus, the “sons [plural] of God”.

          Totally IGNORED, however, by the Christian religious ‘authorities’ and their hapless and witless followers.

          Michael

        • ignis fatuus

          “See “The Treatise On the Resurrection”.”

          See this instead, Mirabolin:

          /prophecy/2014/06/ridiculing-the-messenger-while-ignoring-the-message-2462286.html

          Particular attention to the comments section.

        • Mirabolin

          @Michael

          And the Sadducees as well as the Pharisees and their Jewish heirs and Samaritans and even Zoroastrians. I’ll read this but I think that the idea of rebirth is in every shamanistic culture and that therefore enough of it’s figurative concepts will always exist but for anyone of Jesus’ era to actually believe in rebirth would be like understanding Cherubim (bulss with wings etc) as physically real and walking about and not as a representation of inconcievable (birthable if you conceptually like) concepts. Talking snakes for example? Is that a proof of the Doctrine of Rebirth?

        • Mirabolin

          The eventual resurrected body after the flesh has rotted is a body of light.

          And your rebirth is just revivalism of some sort

          Therefore, do not think in part, O Rheginos, nor live in conformity with this flesh for the sake
          of unanimity, but flee from the divisions and the fetters, and already you have the resurrection. For if he who will die knows about himself that he will die – even if he spends many years in this life, he is brought to this – why not consider yourself as risen and (already) brought to this?

          And Paul’s tradition practiced the mummification of the body with cotton strips etc and Jesus was touched by doubting Thomas. Paul’s Jesus is more physically present on earth after death than yours.

          So I can only assume that you are spurred by

          “do not … live in conformity with this flesh for the sake of unanimity, but flee from the divisions and the fetters, and already you have the resurrection.”

          —————-

          “This flesh.”

          Meat sacks. Cattle. Contents of body bags.

        • Mirabolin

          If by that is meant not being obliged to follow Mosaic laws and Abrahamic covenent etc. If however by this is just meant not just thinking that you can only really hope to have a life that is not that of a expendable meat sack then this ‘resurrection’ or ‘renewal’ or ‘rebirth’ now of himself while alive is just the author giving good advice to someone not to be self loathing (admittedly some people rightly or wrongly do accuse Paul of sometimes suffering from depression).

        • Mirabolin

          The author of The Resurrection means that Rhegnios should live from now on as one who has been reborn anew in the sense of renewed from downsides of his life from when he was born until he was reading this advice and NOT from previous past lives he had lived before his present life’s conception.

    • Michael

      Mirabolin

      Jesus taught a quite literal Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’. This is the meaning of the Doctrine of “the resurrection” as elucidated by Jesus in his reply to the Sadducees; not YET understood by any Christian theologian. The Sadducees denied “the resurrection” altogether; while the Pharisees appealed to the Egyptian ‘god of the dead’ religion to explain away the Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’.

      When Jesus asked the apostles: “Who do men say that I am?” the reply was ‘Moses, Jeremiah or one of the prophets’. Jesus answered in such a way as to stress that it makes NO difference who a person has been in their previous life. The important thing is that he had received both the Vision of the “Son of man” and the Revelation of “the resurrection” and was, for that reason, a “son of God’. The entire doctrine of “THE” son of God is a contradiction of the words of Jesus himself; a consequence of Roman idolatry.

      By the way, the ‘talking snake’ was an allegory about the loss of the consciousness Created by God into the dualistic consciousness of the “beast of the sea” consciousness of the “self” and the “beast of the earth” consciousness of the ‘thinker’–more words that have ‘remained secret and sealed until the time of the End’ (that is, the end of the ‘fallen’ consciousness prior to the receiving of the Vision and the Revelation).

      Michael

      • Mirabolin

        Of course Dalits are *children* of God so let’s ask them about Gandhis view of Vishnu as the Lord of (them as the reborn) Fleas:

        Despite India’s promotion of Gandhi, Roy says of Gandhi and Ambedkar: “Their differences were (and remain) irreconcilable…. Ambedkar was Gandhi’s most formidable adversary.” Her claims are identical to those undergirding rising discontent among segments of the Indian diaspora with global promotion of Gandhi as the unofficial “Father of India.” For instance, Gandhi’s status was challenged at Columbia University’s conference on June 29, when panelist Dr. Manisha Bangar (national vice president of India-based civil rights group Mulnivasi Sangh) described Ambedkar as “the tallest personality of modern India.” As reported by India West, her American audience was enthralled when she declared: “There has not been a more urgent need for Dr. Ambedkar’s message of emancipation than today.” [2]

        The conference concluded with all attendees unanimously affirming a resolution proclaiming Dr. Ambedkar, who studied at Columbia from 1913 to 1917, as “the true father of India and a preeminent liberator of the oppressed peoples of the world” and committing to “moving his caravan forward.” Organized by U.S.-based non-profit Bhim Rao Ambedkar Sikh Foundation (BRASF), the conference was sparked in response to a lecture at Columbia hosted by the Indian State funded Dr. B. R. Ambedkar Chair in Constitutional Law entitled: “Reconciling Gandhi and Ambedkar.” As reported by India Abroad, conference panelist Pieter Singh, an Indologist and activist, stated:

        “Ambedkar and Gandhi mix as well as oil and water, sand and fire, cats and dogs, or snakes and babies. In other words, they don’t go together. They are irreconcilable…. On the one hand, Dr Ambedkar stood for the annihilation of caste. On the other hand, Gandhi stood for the perpetuation of caste.” [3]

        Roy argues that Gandhi sought to advance caste, as clearly evidenced by his writings. In one quote she references, he stated: “Caste is another name for control. Caste puts a limit on enjoyment…. These being my views I am opposed to all those who are out to destroy the Caste System.” However, she writes, “His views on race presaged his views on caste.” Particularly, she notes Gandhi’s support for segregation in pre-apartheid South Africa, especially highlighting his 1895 campaign to divide black Africans from Indians by demanding separate doors for each at the post office in Durban.

        Opposition to Gandhi statues is picking up steam internationally, with documented protests ranging across three continents. In 2013, while reporting on a protest of a Gandhi bust at Fresno State University, an article in Punjab Spectrum stated: “A demonstration occurred over a Gandhi statue in Cerrito, CA on September 14 and a statue in San Francisco has been the site of multiple demonstrations. In 2010, plans for a statue proposed for the grounds of the State Capitol in Sacramento were quickly derailed after opponents spoke with legislators. Statues in Ottawa, Flint, London, and Johannesburg are among many others which have faced opposition.” [4]

        Gandhi’s racism is a recurring theme in North American protests against his legacy. For instance, The National Post reported another protest in October 2010, this one in Flint, Michigan, where a new statue was protested at its unveiling. Ajit Lear, a protester who travelled from Toronto to make his voice heard at the U.S. unveiling, flatly stated: “He was a racist person.” The National Post article stated: “A small but vocal camp that has arisen in recent years to accuse Gandhi of shoring up India’s rigid caste system and of supporting racial segregation while working as a lawyer in South Africa. Gandhi’s non-violent philosophy has sometimes been interpreted as tacit support of Nazism.” [5]

        Indeed, virtually all of these protests link opposition to Gandhi to the racism noted by Roy, as well as to his sexual abuse of his teenage relatives, as The Los Angeles Times reported last year: “The Organization for Minorities of India — the same group that has sought the removal of similar statues across the country and in Canada — holds that Gandhi perpetuated the caste system, allied himself with Adolf Hitler and was a sexual deviant who slept naked with his grandnieces.” [6]

        Furthermore, at a protest in San Francisco in 2010, The Bay Citizen reported that, when “a group of mostly Sikh and low-caste Indians gathered” on October 2, Gandhi’s birthday, to demand a removal of his statue from the city, Bhajan Singh, Founding Director of Organization for Minorities of India (OFMI), joined the protest, saying: “The whole world sees Gandhi as a symbol of non-violence, but we are the victims of generations of his racist policies.” [7] Singh also spearheaded a campaign in Autumn 2013 for removal of a Gandhi statue in Cerritos, a city in southern California nicknamed “little India” because of its high proportion of Indian-American residents, where Orange County Register reports he told Cerritos City Council: “You promoted a piece of racial hatred. This is totally un-American. You continue to support a monster.”

        [Link](http://www.sikhsiyasat.net/2014/03/09/civil-rights-icon-dr-bhim-rao-ambedkar-and-hindu-saint-mohandas-gandhi-can-never-be-reconciled-arundhati-roy/)

        • Mirabolin

          Confused BIN post with reddit I was on at the time!

    • Michael

      Mirabolin

      Oops. I think the passage may have been Elijah, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.

      In any case, the ‘body of light’ is Greek metaphysical philosophy; which, like the doctrine of a metaphysical ‘soul’, ‘heaven’ and ‘hell’ has NO place in the Teaching of Jesus.

      Michael

      • Michael

        Mirabolin:

        Where did I EVER write that I believe in a metaphysical ‘soul’?

        The doctrine of the metaphysical ‘soul’ is a doctrine concocted by the “beast of the earth”, dualistic, ‘fallen’ consciousness of the ‘thinker’ for the purpose of establishing the temporal continuity of the “beast of the sea” consciousness of the “self” from one life to another. It is no less metaphysical nonsense than the metaphysical nonsense about the ‘soul’ going to either ‘heaven’ or ‘hell’. In other words, there is a very clear connection doctrinally between Christianity and Hinduism.

        The Doctrine of ‘Rebirth’ is more parsimonious. There is no assumption of any temporal continuity (because no such thing exists); while, at the same time, the reality of numerous previous lives is affirmed; Buddhism, for example, challenging the whole illusion of a personal “self”.

        This is dealt with in some detail in The Treatise On the Resurrection; but one has to go over that document with a fine-toothed comb to understand what is being discussed.

        Michael

        • Mirabolin

          “for the purpose of establishing the temporal continuity of the “beast of the sea” consciousness of the “self” (from one life to another.)

          And indeed as you have said …why stop there? Why should the Fleas that you want to be Lord of have any continuity in all your other forms of ‘rebirth that you will guide them through through all the days of their life from cradle to the grave. That WOULD just cramp your embittered hatred of the ‘evil’ you keep trying to get them to recognize that they are really.

          ———–

          “In other words, there is a very clear connection doctrinally between Christianity and Hinduism.”

          Yup! I thought so! A kicker of the faces of handicapped children wandering into Christianity trying to claim to speak for someone else before uh..they go to hell.

          Hinduism has NO doctrinal existence. It is just gathered under the Lord of the Fleas. Christianity is doctrinally connected to Zorastrianism and other western Indo Europeans. Hindus and their fellow kickers of the faces of evil handicapped children Buddhists before and after they crawled back up into the Lords of the Fleas nihilistic arses are NOT Indo-European.

          ————-

          “This is dealt with in some detail in The Treatise On the Resurrection; but one has to go over that document with a fine-toothed comb to understand what is being discussed.

          And yet I instantly understood you as one of the Lords of the (reborn) Fleas didn’t I?

          • Mirabolin

            “This is dealt with in some detail in The Treatise On the Resurrection; but one has to go over that document with a fine-toothed comb to understand what is being discussed.”

            Oh so you’re throwing the bits of it that you don’t like out now as well as the transcendentalism of St Paul ‘s Christianity and it’s threat to your Godhood too Flea Lord?

            “Second, the form of survival will be the “resurrection,” which is not understood as the re-creation of a spiritual body at Christ’s Parousia (cf. 1 Co 15 passim).
            [Break]

            (“The doctrine of the metaphysical ‘soul’ is a doctrine concocted by the “beast of the earth”, dualistic, ‘fallen’ consciousness of the ‘thinker’ for the purpose of establishing the temporal continuity of the “beast of the sea” consciousness”)

            [Continued]
            Rather, at the point of biological death, the “elect” believer experiences the separation of the inward, “living members,” whose intellectual nature is clarified by reference to the “mind” and its “thought,” from the external “body” of “perishable … .. visible,” outward “members” (47,38-48,2; 45,39-46,2; 45,19-21). Even so, this “resurrection body,” covered with a new “flesh” (47,4-8) or “GARMENT OF LIGHT” (“rays” in 45,30-31), RETAINS PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE FEATURES, as the appearance of Elijah and Moses at Christ’s transfiguration (Mk 9:2-8) makes clear. Such is the “spiritual resurrection” which “swallows up” (i.e., renders nonsensical or destroys) the “resurrection” of either the naked “soul” or of the crudely literal “flesh” (45,39-46,2). IMPLIED IS A DUALISTIC DOCTRINE OF OUTER / INNER that goes beyond Pauline anthropology.

            • Michael

              Mirabolin:

              Here’s fifty dollars–$50–to translate your replies into anything commensurable with the vernacular.

              My guess, and it is nothing more than a guess, is that you think that the Treatise On the Resurrection is a treatise of metaphysical philosophy.

              It’s not.

              It is a description in the vernacular of the receiving of a specific Revelation: the Revelation of “the resurrection”.

              The “spiritual” resurrection is not a metaphysical theory; it is a term for the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and of the non-dualistic consciousness of man at the moment of Creation. It is based upon an actual experience of that kind of consciousness, rather than being something concocted by a ‘thinker’ with time on its hands.

              And the repetition of your comment about ‘kicker in the faces’ completely missed its intended target, leaving me puzzled at what you are even referring to and whether I am supposed to be amused or offended.

              Similar for your statement about “Godhood too Flea Lord”.

              And “transcendentalism of Paul’s Christianity”????

              You mean the same Paul that said that a man can be ‘God’?

              The same Paul whose doctrine resulted in Naziism?

              THAT Paul?

              I do not consider that transcendentalism at all but “wallowing in the mire-ism” of the consciousness of the “self”‘s need to preserve itself with metaphysical philosophy.

              I have no love for metaphysical philosophy, which is what you appear to swim in.

              Michael

            • Mirabolin

              And I assume by Paul causing Nazism that, as far as you concerned when comparing him to the Jesus as the Lord of the fleas that you want people to worship, that he failed to act motivated as solely out of evil as you would have liked. Towards non-jews like the europeans as you want to.

              And who decides this unconnected self is reborn? Themselves when they are out of their minds on drugs? Some swami or lama decides that someone is not actually who he says he is (a family member of who they think they are but far far more what a proper enlightened person says he is instead?

            • Michael

              I don’t know where to begin. (and, still, this “lord of the fleas” nonsense; whatever THAT is supposed to mean. I don’t have a CLUE.)

              Seriously.

              You make several assumptions about what I “believe” without any evidence whatsoever from my statements that that is the case. But, as Nietzsche said: “…it is not my job to shoo flies.”

              Anyway, no ‘decision is made’. A person either directly receives the memories of previous lives or the revelation of the memories of previous lives or he doesn’t. Going to a past-life regression hypnotist is nothing I would ever do; nor would I consult any lama or swami.

              The memories I have had have emerged immediately out of the circumstances of my life; the people I have met, and the similarity or correspondences between this life and other lives in which I have met them. Had I never received those memories, it would not even have occurred to me that there was any way that I could know for certain that I had lived previous lives. It would have been nothing more than a theory.

              And don’t be so cynical.

              The observation of the emergence of different selves requires a ‘grounding’ consciousness beyond the consciousness of the “self” for such an ‘observation’. That is simply common sense.

              Michael

            • Mirabolin

              Second, the form of survival will be the “resurrection,” which is not understood as the re-creation of a spiritual body at Christ’s Parousia (cf. 1 Co 15 passim). Rather, at the point of biological death, the “elect” believer experiences the separation of the inward, “living members,” whose intellectual nature is clarified by reference to the “mind” and its “thought,” from the external “body” of “perishable … .. visible,” outward “members” (47,38-48,2; 45,39-46,2; 45,19-21). Even so, this “resurrection body,” covered with a new “flesh” (47,4-8) or “garment of light” (“rays” in 45,30-31), ***** RETAINS PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE FEATURES ******, as the appearance of Elijah and Moses at Christ’s transfiguration (Mk 9:2-8) makes clear.

              http://www.theologywebsite.com/etext/naghammadi/resurrection.shtml

              ===================

              Your ‘Kicker in the face of evil handicapped children’ title obviously refers to your Hindu /’Christian’ belief that those who have been rebirthed with afflictions have been so afflicted on account of their (‘utterly disconnected’!) evil past lives.

              And if peoples self is destroyed then how would that person know that such a load of crap was the case? Because they are schizophrenic or because some swahmi or Lama tells them that they are actually far far more who they say that they without support are rather than they or their families do.

            • Mirabolin

              And “transcendentalism of Paul’s Christianity”????
              You mean the same Paul that said that a man can be ‘God’?

              – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

              The transcendentalism of man is in his ability to not circle endless wordly lives defined by other psychopaths alone. God is not bound by transcendentalism.

              The transcendentalism that says the no amount of talking banana plants and turbulent skies is ever going to cut it. That if God can interact in this world – and he might not be able to do so – then he is going to interact as someone who had lived the profane life of a man if they are ever going to transcend their daily lives when needed. Christianity is not the profane laws of a small group of people descended from some desert nomad. Paul never left the profanity of his jewishness while he lived but I guess that he thought that when he was interacting with non-jews he was transcending it in Christ’s name. As he would have to. If he hadn’t then his own profane existence as a Jew would have itself have to trespass into the world of the sacred sacrifice and that would be one in which the whole world became Jewish (while staying themselves too) and the Jews would have given up their group body for the world as some type of sacred sacrifice instead (something that only Americans are brain dead enough to do). Even Jesus only took up that role when after he was crucified.

            • Michael

              Mirabolin:

              In almost all cases, I have been able to determine whether or not someone else agrees or disagrees with me on the basis of what they say; and, very clearly, what precisely it is that they agree with or object to.

              After reading a few of your replies many more times than is typical, the term “philosophical word salad” comes to ‘mind’.

              Perhaps the words you use possess some meaning for you.

              But, for me, they are simply not commensurable with any known conceptual decoding system.

              Michael

            • Mirabolin

              “I don’t know where to begin. (and, still, this “lord of the fleas” nonsense; whatever THAT is supposed to mean. I don’t have a CLUE.”

              - – - – - — – - – - — – - – - — – - – - — – - – - — – - – - — – - – - — – - – - -

              I have explained clearly what it means. Your Christianity incorporating Hinduism / Buddhism considers openly or deep down that people are the reincarnation of other lives and that the value of these previous lives determines the rebirthed peoples future lives. And, literally or figuratively, people can become fleas and people can be the reincarnation of fleas – those at the bottom of society obviously. You worship and would have people worship the Lord of the Flies or Fleas, the Devil – these aforementioned people.

              =============================

              “You make several assumptions about what I “believe” without any evidence whatsoever from my statements that that is the case.”

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              You hope! But at least now you are stumbling towards openly admitting what your sneaky guilt tripping post are like for most people to read are like: that no one could POSSIBLY know what you believe based on what you post. That THAT is not possible!

              For most people no. But as you still demonstrate you can only respond by insulting others that you think are offending you by interrupting the obscenity of the insults and filt that you are throwing at them.

              And what you are still NOT doing is exposing the malignancy of what you actually BELIEVE to the light.

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              “A person either directly receives the memories of previous lives or the revelation of the memories of previous lives or he doesn’t.”

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              So the present ‘pretend’ basis for your religion of ShiteTan is schizophrenia.

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              n almost all cases, I have been able to determine whether or not someone else agrees or disagrees with me on the basis of what they say; and, very clearly, what precisely it is that they agree with or object to.

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              If you are unsure about whether or not my describing your ‘Kicking evil handicapped ‘re-born flea’ children in the face for your religion of ShiteTan, the Lord of the Flies’ is agreement with you or not then Michael … you really do have borderline schizophrenia.

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              >My guess, and it is nothing more than a guess, is that you think that the Treatise On the Resurrection is a treatise of metaphysical philosophy.
              It’s not.
              It is a description in the vernacular of the receiving of a specific Revelation: the Revelation of “the resurrection”.
              The “spiritual” resurrection is not a metaphysical theory; it is a term for the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and of the non-dualistic consciousness of man at the moment of Creation. It is based upon an actual experience of that kind of consciousness, rather than being something concocted by a ‘thinker’ with time on its hands.

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              And if you cannot expose yourself then simply cite a modern source that comments on your beliefs.

              I have given you a source that states that the Christian gnostic Doctrine of the Resurrection that you use to show what Christianity should be rather than dualistic (even though Christianity is trinitarian) IS a dualistic doctrine.

              http://www.theologywebsite.com/etext/naghammadi/resurrection.shtml

            • Michael

              Just a few closing comments:

              Beliefs originate in the consciousness of the ‘thinker’. They consist of an emotional attachment to thoughts created out of fear (“ice”) and desire (“fire”). Their purpose is to preserve the “self”.

              Most of what I write does not come under the category of belief at all; rather, it originates in two principal Revelations: the Vision of the “Son of man” and the Revelation of “the resurrection”. (These are the two fundamental Revelations which underlie the Torah, the Prophets, the Gospels and the Quran. And that is not any thought of a ‘thinker’. That is a statement based upon recognition; that recognition based upon the receiving of those Revelations.) That Knowledge originates beyond fear and desire (and guilt, wherever you got that idea), pleasure and pain.

              So I don’t believe in metaphysical philosophy, or reincarnation, or that people are fleas, or ever were fleas.

              With regards to a “modern source which confirms my ‘beliefs’…

              “Modern sources” are all metaphysical theologian-philosophers speaking about things of which they have no Knowledge or experience. They have merely concocted nonsense by the consciousness of the ‘thinker’; so, obviously, they are not going to agree with anything that I say. They have not received the Revelation or the Vision. And, in any case, the Prophecy of Daniel states that “these words will remain secret and sealed until the time of the End”, which would seem to exclude the possibility that what I say has already been said by metaphysical philosopher-theologians. And, in order for any of them to accept what I have said as being Revealed Truth, their consciousness of the ‘thinker’ would have to come to an end—which, of course, is the meaning of the phrase “until the time of the End”; that is, when the words of Truth are no longer ‘secret and unsealed’.

              Clearly, you prefer metaphysical theology-philosophy and the continuation of the consciousness of the ‘thinker’—which, by the way, has brought civilization to the present catastrophe—to Revelation because it is comforting and nonthreatening to the consciousness of the “self”. That is your choice; but that is the choice that is pushing this civilization into horrors beyond your worst nightmares. All for the purpose of preserving the “self”.

              In any case, is simply not possible to convince a “beast of the sea” consciousness of the “self” of Revealed Truth because the consciousness of the “self” is fundamentally a-conceptual. It would be like trying to tell a worm, which has no ears, to “fetch” a piece of food (and, then, being surprised that it does not respond appropriately). The “self” has no ears for the Truth. It only has ears for, and responds to concepts which induce pleasure (“fire”) or pain, fear or desire (“fire”). That is all it really cares about. And my words are not pleasurable to you; which is the only thing of importance to the consciousness of a worm (“their worm dieth not and their fire is not quenched”, as Jesus said in Chapter 9, verse 48 of the Gospel of Mark).

              I do not believe in any “Christian gnostic doctrine of Resurrection”, whatever that means.

              What I have Knowledge of (that is the basis of Gnosis in the first place) is the Revelations that I have received.

              You are well within your rights to deny that I have received Revelations at all. But that is merely the structure and reflex (“fire”) of the consciousness of the “self” in its turning away from the Light and into the cesspool of duality…

              Which, of course, is what the War of the Sons of Light and the Sons of Darkness is all about.

              Michael (interestingly enough)

            • Mirabolin

              “Most of what I write does not come under the category of belief at all; rather, it originates in two principal Revelations: the Vision of the “Son of man” and the Revelation of “the resurrection”. (These are the two fundamental Revelations which underlie the Torah, the Prophets, the Gospels and the Quran. And that is not any thought of a ‘thinker’. That is a statement based upon recognition; that recognition based upon the receiving of those Revelations.) That Knowledge originates beyond fear and desire (and guilt, wherever you got that idea), pleasure and pain.

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              That is NOT a source. I said a wanted a modern source that agreed with you.

              And as for fear etc this is just your, again, starting to rant at the evil reborn fleas that you wish to worship the Lord of the Flies. Your need for people, and for people of the Christian faith to let you speak on their behalf rquires that you dismiss their thoughts as innately maggot like.

              +++And my words are not pleasurable to you; which is the only thing of importance to the consciousness of a worm (“their worm dieth not and their fire is not quenched”, as Jesus said in Chapter 9, verse 48 of the Gospel of Mark).+++

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              That Knowledge originates beyond fear and desire (and guilt, wherever you got that idea), pleasure and pain.

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              Well understanding that knowledge and emotions are different things isn’t adding much to anybody elses understanding of things.

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              “these words will remain secret and sealed until the time of the End”, which would seem to exclude the possibility that what I say has already been said by metaphysical philosopher-theologians.

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              So you know that they will be sealed to you unless you have the books with you and have opened their seals.

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              And, in order for any of them to accept what I have said as being Revealed Truth, their consciousness of the ‘thinker’ would have to come to an end—which, of course, is the meaning of the phrase “until the time of the End”; that is, when the words of Truth are no longer ‘secret and unsealed’.

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              And if a persons ‘consciousness was appropriately destroyed first’ you would get them to believe any number of things.

              So so modern or ancient sources. Not a single recorded source to back you up as having the authority that you say you have over all things?

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              “I do not believe in any “Christian gnostic doctrine of Resurrection”, whatever that means.”

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              The Christian gnostic doctrine of Resurrection was the doctrine espoused in the Doctrine of Revelation. I knew that you were not even in agreement with it as well as St Paul and that is what I poiinted out to you

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              You are well within your rights to deny that I have received Revelations at all. But that is merely the structure and reflex (“fire”) of the consciousness of the “self” in its turning away from the Light and into the cesspool of duality…
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              And you going nowhere shattered (Krishna?) consciousness is left without a theory of mind – either your own or others.

    • Pix

      “It’s an especially timely study in a world charging headlong into a new dark age.”

      All the religions were created and state enforced as thought and belief intolerant dictatorships from the dark age right up to the 18th century CE, depending on the dictates of the various kings, queens, emperors etc, the ordinary folk had no choice in the matter they were property, serfs.

      But you are correct in one way, we would have to return to dark age warfare tactics to fulfil biblical end times prophesy. Because we no long fight war with uncountable numbers of sword wielding foot troops and thousands of heavy armored horse cavalry. We we have to wait a hundred years or so giving us time to mine enough iron, smelt and create swords and heavy horse armour, and breed enough horses. Horse numbers are at an all time low.

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