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The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie – Part 4 – Causing True Harm

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John Little – OmegaShock.com

 

I know that it seems like this isn’t really all that significant, and three years ago, I might have agreed with you. But, we have brothers and sisters who are asleep, and you need tools to help wake them up.

 

(Click HERE for Part Three)

 

Worse, as I dug deeper into this issue, I’ve found that the damage that this Lie has done isn’t limited to our ability to survive the Tribulation. It is corrupting our view of the Bible, and it has ALREADY caused horrifying trauma to Christians in far away places.

 

Like it or not, this Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie is just another version of the feel-good, prosperity doctrine from someone like Joel Osteen. It’s spiritual heroin, and it’s gotta’ stop.

 

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The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie – Part 4 – Causing True Harm

 

I completely understand why the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie took hold in the 1800s. People were terrified by the idea of going through any part of what was described in the Book of Revelation. They didn’t want to see their loved ones killed or hurt. They didn’t want the terrible suffering that could come… well, at any moment.

 

So, when John Nelson Darby incorporated the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie into his theory of Dispensationalism, it was like a gulp of water to a man dying of thirst. It allowed us to look at the future with anticipation, and not dread.

 

Spiritual Heroin

 

It was like heroin.

 

I have never taken heroin, but I’ve seen the horrifying effects. And, the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie is spiritual heroin in its purest form. It will put you to sleep with a smile on your face, and you will feel WONDERFUL.

 

I know one of the few people who have been able to escape heroin addiction, and he tried many different drugs as a young man. And, he says that there’s NOTHING like heroin. In fact, it’s so good that I can’t repeat how he describes it.

 

One of the great things about Taiwan, he says, is that it is almost impossible to get heroin.

 

Just one more reason to live here.

 

But, is it really that big of a deal to be hooked on spiritual heroin?

 

Corrie Ten Boom

 

Well, Corrie Ten Boom has something to say about that.

 

 

Corrie Ten Boom speaks about the Tribulation and the Rapture (Mirror)

 

YouTube shortlink: http://youtu.be/5-IqRi6lvrM

 

Actually, I could stop right here. Corrie said it all, and this woman with such a beautiful soul will meet us in heaven with her own crown, for all that she has done.

 

Will you listen to what she said?

 

Will you wake up to the truth of the Bible?

 

We spoke lies to the Chinese Christians and the African Christians, telling them that nothing could possibly happen to them – that the future was bright and glorious, that God would keep them from persecution.

 

So, when persecution came, they weren’t ready.

 

Please Stay Home

 

Please, if you preach the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie, and you wish to go out and preach this lie to Asia and Africa…

 

…stay home.

 

We don’t need lies. We need the truth.

 

I heard a story about an African Christian that was meeting with a pastor for dinner, and he said something interesting. He told this pastor to stop sending missionaries to Africa. He said that they are preaching a prosperity doctrine, and it’s hurting them.

 

I tell you the same thing about Asia. I’ve lived in Asia for close to twenty years, and I can tell you that we don’t need missionaries to preach American Christianity. If that’s you, please stay home.

 

There are only two conditions of the Christian here in Asia. There are either people planning to kill them, or there are people trying to kill them. And, your pre-tribulation prosperity rapture fraud is killing us.

 

So, if you are a dispensationalist in Asia…

 

…Go Home.

 

The rest of us will still need to clean up the mess you’ve made, but it’s better than having someone around who keeps making a mess.

 

And yes, dispensationalism is just another feel-good, Joel Osteen prosperity gospel.

 

You ARE Going To Suffer Persecution

 

Please get this into your head. It’s from the Bible:

 

Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.2 Timothy 3:12

 

And please don’t tell me how you’ve suffered persecution.

 

Have you almost died from being beaten?

 

Have you had to run for your life?

 

Have you even been thrown in jail for Christ?

 

I know a Arab brother in Christ who went through ALL of that. I doubt that any of us are ready to go through what he’s gone through – yet, he’s out there, at the mosque, after prayers to try and reach other Arabs with the gospel.

 

None of us have suffered real persecution. Yes, I understand that life might not have been easy for you, but you still have no idea about what real persecution is. And this Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie is designed to keep you from being prepared for what Asian Christians have already experienced – and are experiencing, right now.

 

It’s The Great Persecution

 

Now, I’m going to add something to our discussion that you must get right, so pay attention to what I am telling you:

 

The Tribulation Is Not The Wrath Of God

 

I’m going to wait a moment to let that sink in, because it’s corollary is important.

 

Now, take a breath. Hold it. Let it out slowly.

 

Are you ready for the next bit?

 

Okay. Here it is:

 

The Tribulation Is The Wrath Of Satan.

 

Oh dear. You’re hyperventilating again.

 

Take a deep breath. Hold it. Let it out slowly.

 

If you need a chill pill, take it now, because I’m about to add insult to injury by showing you what the Bible says:

 

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

 

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.Revelation 12:7-12

 

Then Revelation 12 goes on to say this:

 

And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

 

And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. - Revelation 12:13-17

 

That last verse is verse 17. I’ll repeat it here:

 

And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. - Revelation 12:17

 

THAT is the TRIBULATION!

 

Did you get that?

 

For three and a half years, those in Israel – who have accepted Christ – will be sheltered from the wrath of Satan. Because Satan can’t get to these Israeli Christians, he will go after those Christians in the rest of the World that he CAN get to – again, for three and a half years.

 

That is the Great Tribulation, but it might be better to call it The Great Persecution – because that is what it is.

 

Maybe we should stop calling it The Great Tribulation and start calling it The Great Persecution.

 

Corrupting The Bible

 

It will be the greatest time of persecution of Christians that the world has ever seen – and your pastor is probably saying that you won’t ever see it. And, as Corrie Ten Boom said, any teacher who teaches such a thing is a false teacher.

 

Now, you might say that one false teaching doesn’t make you a false teacher.

 

Really? Are you sure about that?

 

Yes, I understand that we all get things wrong. I myself have been deeply wrong about more than one Bible passage. In fact, I’m sure that I am still wrong about something, somewhere in the Bible.

 

We are all sinful, and therefore prone to misinterpreting the Bible – and then teaching that misinterpretation. Worse, our misinterpretation isn’t just a corruption of one part of the Bible. It reaches out and corrupts the rest of the Bible.

 

John MacArthur

 

Take my series on twisting the Bible:

 

http://www.omegashock.com/2014/07/26/weekend-shockcast-twisting-the-bible/

 

It was inspired by an abominable statement made by John MacArthur – that you could still go to heaven, even if you took the Mark of the Beast.

 

Why did he make such a horrendous statement?

 

He reasoned that, since the Pre-Tribulation Rapture must be true, there would be no Christians on Earth, when the Antichrist came. He reasoned further that, since the Antichrist would make everyone take the Mark of the Beast, anyone who gets saved during the Tribulation would already have the Mark of the Beast. Therefore, his reasoning said that you CAN take the Mark of the Beast and still go to heaven.

 

Yet, he chose to ignore this verse:

 

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.Revelation 14:11

 

He also ignored this verse:

 

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.Revelation 20:4

 

And THAT is what happens when you allow false teaching to take hold of you. It causes you to ignore parts of the Bible – parts that are vital. It causes you to CORRUPT the Bible.

 

You Must Flee False Teaching

 

If you allow ANY deception to take hold of you, you will find your interpretation of the Bible to be corrupt. You will become a false teacher.

 

Now, like I said, we all get things wrong. The fact that we often learn something new when we read our Bibles, tells us that this is a process. It is a rare Christian that just happens to be in the right church that is teaching the right doctrine. Some of you have come from churches that have had so much wrong… well, it’s taken time for you to even be able to read what I’ve said.

 

I get that, because I’ve been there.

 

But, that’s why you MUST treat opportunities like this carefully. If you hold to a pre-tribulation rapture, I have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that you have a problem.

 

You may not be able to agree with me yet that the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine is a lie, and I understand that. But, you MUST seek the truth until this ‘problem’ that I have presented to you is dealt with.

 

Why?

 

Because the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie has corrupted your view of the Bible. You will only be able to deal with that corruption, when you’ve gotten rid of this lie.

 

Seek Out The Lies In Your Life

 

And yes, once you’ve gotten rid of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Lie, your work isn’t done. You must seek out all the other lies that you hold and get rid of THEM, too.

 

Satan has succeeded in his goal of causing the Body of Christ to fall asleep. And, as we have slept, he has crept in and taken power in this world. He has infected our churches with false doctrine. He has weakened our hands and loosened our grip on the Bible – and what it means to suffer persecution.

 

We are unready for the time when Satan will lose the war in heaven, and will be cast down to Earth. We are NOT ready for the coming of The Great Persecution.

 

Now is the time to stop the spiritual heroin and wake up.

 

There is no time left.

 

I truly hope that you’ll be ready for this

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    • HfjNUlYZ

      The Great Tribulation is the Time of Jacob’s Trouble in which God pours out His wrath upon the earth, not the “wrath of Satan”.

      And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. Revelation 15:1

      And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. Revelation 16:1

      You mis-interpret Revelation 12 TOTALLY and you ignore the abundance of Truth that tells of God’s Mercy on His own and how He hasn’t appointed the believer to His wrath.

      And although there are many more, I will give you just FIFTY reasons why the rapture of the Church MUST happen before the Time of Jacob’s Trouble AKA the Great Tribulation according to the bible, which is consistent in presenting the believer with HOPE for escaping because it is TRUTH hope. (Wherefore, COMFORT one another with these words) We are told by Paul to COMFORT one another with the words of 2 Thessalonians!

      I. Historical Argument
      1. The early church believed in the imminency of the Lord’s return, which is an essential doctrine of pretribulationism.
      2. The detailed development of pretribulational truth during the past few centuries does not prove that the doctrine is new or novel. Its development is similar to that of other major doctrines in the history of the church.
      II. Hermeneutics
      3. Pretribulationism is the only view which allows a literal interpretation of all Old and New Testament passages on the great tribulation.
      4. Only pretribulationism distinguishes clearly between Israel and the church and their respective programs.
      III. The Nature of the Tribulation
      5. Pretribulationism maintains the Scriptural distinction between the great tribulation and tribulation in general which precedes it.
      6. The great tribulation is properly interpreted by pretribulationists as a time of preparation for Israel’s restoration (Deut. 4:29-30; Jer. 30:4-11). It is not the purpose of the tribulation to prepare the church for glory.
      7. None of the Old Testament passages on the tribulation mention the church (Deut. 4:29-30; Jer. 30:4-11; Dan. 9:24-27; Dan. 12:1-2).
      8. None of the New Testament passages on the tribulation mention the church (Matt. 24:15-31; 1 Thess. 1:9-10; 1 Thess. 5:4-9; Rev. 4—Rev. 19).
      9. In contrast to midtribulationism, the pretribulational view provides an adequate explanation for the beginning of the great tribulation in Revelation 6. Midtribulationism is refuted by the plain teaching of Scripture that the great tribulation begins long before the seventh trumpet of Revelation 11.
      10. The proper distinction is maintained between the prophetic trumpets of Scripture by pretribulationism. There is no proper ground for the pivotal argument of midtribulationism that the seventh trumpet of Revelation is the last trumpet in that there is no established connection between the seventh trumpet of Revelation 11, the last trumpet of 1 Corinthians 15:52, and the trumpet of Matthew 24:31. They are three distinct events.
      11. The unity of Daniel’s seventieth week is maintained by pretribulationists. By contrast, midtribulationism destroys the unity of Daniel’s seventieth week and confuses Israel’s program with that of the church.
      IV. The Nature of the Church
      12. The translation of the church is never mentioned in any passage dealing with the second coming of Christ after the tribulation.
      13. The church is not appointed to wrath (Rom. 5:9; 1 Thess. 1:9-10; 1 Thess. 5:9). The church therefore cannot enter “the great day of their wrath” (Rev. 6:17).
      14. The church will not be overtaken by the Day of the Lord (1 Thess. 5:1-9) which includes the tribulation.
      15. The possibility of a believer escaping the tribulation is mentioned in Luke 21:36.
      16. The church of Philadelphia was promised deliverance from “the hour of trial, that hour which is to come upon the whole world, to try them that dwell upon the earth” (Rev. 3:10).
      17. It is characteristic of divine dealing to deliver believers before a divine judgment is inflicted upon the world as illustrated in the deliverance of Noah, Lot, Rahab, etc. (2 Pet. 2:6-9).
      18. At the time of the translation of the church, all believers go to the Father’s house in heaven, and do not remain on the earth as taught by posttribulationists (John 14:3).
      19. Pretribulationism does not divide the body of Christ at the rapture on a works principle. The teaching of a partial rapture is based on the false doctrine that the translation of the church is a reward for good works. It is rather a climactic aspect of salvation by grace.
      20. The Scriptures clearly teach that all, not part, of the church will be raptured at the coming of Christ for the church (1 Cor. 15:51-52; 1 Thess. 4:17).
      21. As opposed to a view of a partial rapture, pretribulationism is founded on the definite teaching of Scripture that the death of Christ frees from all condemnation.
      22. The godly remnant of the tribulation are pictured as Israelites, not members of the church as maintained by the posttribulationists.
      23. The pretribulational view as opposed to posttribulationism does not confuse general terms like elect and saints which apply to the saved of all ages with specific terms like the church and those in Christ which refer to believers of this age only.
      V. The Doctrine of Immmency
      24. The pretribulational interpretation is the only view which teaches that the coming of Christ is actually imminent.
      25. The exhortation to be comforted by the coming of the Lord (1 Thess. 4:18) is significant only in the pretribulational view, and is especially contradicted by posttribulationism.
      26. The exhortation to look for “the glorious appearing” (Titus 2:13) loses its significance if the tribulation must intervene first. Believers in that case should look for signs.
      27. The exhortation to purify ourselves in view of the Lord’s return has most significance if His coming is imminent (1 John 3:2-3).
      28. The church is uniformly exhorted to look for the coming of the Lord, while believers in the tribulation are directed to look for signs.
      VI. The Work of the Holy Spirit
      29. The Holy Spirit as the Restrainer of evil cannot be taken out of the world unless the church, which the Spirit indwells, is translated at the same time. The tribulation cannot begin until this restraint is lifted.
      30. The Holy Spirit as the Restrainer must be taken out of the world before “the lawless one,” who dominates the tribulation period, can be revealed (2 Thess. 2:6-8).
      31. If the expression, “except the falling away come first, be translated literally, “except the departure come first, it would plainly show the necessity of the rapture taking place before the beginning of the tribulation.
      VII. The Necessity of an Interval between the Rapture and Second Coming
      32. According to 2 Corinthians 5:10, all believers of this age must appear before the judgment seat of Christ in heaven, an event never mentioned in the detailed accounts connected with the second coming of Christ to the earth.
      33. If the twenty-four elders of Revelation 4:1—Revelation 5:14 are representative of the church, as many expositors believe, it would necessitate the rapture and reward of the church before the tribulation.
      34. The marriage of Christ and the church must be celebrated in heaven before the second coming to the earth for the wedding feast (Rev. 19:7-10).
      35. Tribulation saints are not translated at the second coming of Christ but carry on ordinary occupations such as farming and building houses, and shall bear children (Isa. 65:20-25). This would be impossible if all saints were translated at the second coming to the earth as posttribulationists teach.
      36. The judgment of the Gentiles following the second coming (Matt. 25:31-46) indicates that both saved and unsaved are still in their natural bodies, which would be impossible if the translation had taken place at the second coming.
      37. If the translation took place in connection with the second coming to the earth, there would be no need of separating the sheep from the goats at a subsequent judgment, but the separation would have taken place in the very act of the translation of the believers before Christ actually came to the earth.
      38. The judgment of Israel (Ezek. 20:34-38) which occurs subsequent to the second coming indicates the necessity of regathering Israel. The separation of the saved from the unsaved in this judgment obviously takes place sometime after the second coming and would be unnecessary if a translation of the saved had taken place previously.
      VIII. Contrasts between the Rapture and the Second Coming
      39. At the time of the rapture the saints meet Christ in the air, while at the second coming Christ returns to the Mount of Olives to meet the saints on earth.
      40. At the time of the rapture the Mount of Olives is unchanged, while at the second coming it divides and a valley is formed to the east of Jerusalem (Zech. 14:4-5).
      41. At the rapture living saints are translated, while no saints are translated in connection with the second coming of Christ to the earth.
      42. At the rapture the saints go to heaven, while at the second coming to the earth the saints remain in the earth without translation.
      43. At the time of the rapture the world is unjudged and continues in sin, while at the second coming the world is judged and righteousness is established in the earth.
      44. The translation of the church is pictured as a deliverance before the day of wrath, while the second coming is followed by the deliverance of those who have believed in Christ during the tribulation.
      45. The rapture is described as imminent, while the second coming is preceded by definite signs.
      46. The translation of living believers is truth revealed only in the New Testament, while the second coming with its attendant events is a prominent doctrine of both Testaments.
      47. The rapture concerns only the saved, while the second coming deals with both saved and unsaved.
      48. At the rapture Satan is not bound, while at the second coming Satan is bound and cast into the abyss.
      49. No unfulfilled prophecy stands between the church and the rapture, while many signs must be fulfilled before the second coming.
      50. No passage dealing with the resurrection of saints at the second coming in either Testament ever mentions a translation of living saints at the same time.

      From: Premillennialism and the Tribulation

      Part IX: Conclusion

      John F. Walvoord
      [ Bibliotheca Sacra — Vol 113 #451 — Jul 1956 — pp. 193-199 ]

      Conclusion: Fifty Arguments for Pretribulationism

    • HfjNUlYZ

      “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils”
      —1 Timothy 4:1

      The pre-trib doctrine is a doctrine of devils, or a deception from Satan, because it is not Scriptural and it is in Satan’s interest for Christians to believe it in. All hell is literally about to break loose and the pre-trib rapture is a teaching that itchy ears want to hear because they think they will have an easy way out of what’s coming. They are being set up to make them cannon fodder for the Devil and his forces when all hell does break loose. Is the so-called Church ready for martyrdom today? No, they are not. They are not ready to stand in their faith against the ravages of the beast.

      In the natural world, those entering the armed forces are not thrown onto the battlefield with no training because they would not last. They must go through rigorous physical training first, training on their weapons and how to use them, and so forth. Jesus calls us to a patient and enduring faith during the time of the antichrist. We are entering the time period the Bible warned us about, the time the world of the dead will open its mouth wide for. The body of Christ should be in spiritual boot camp, bracing and strengthening themselves in the LORD, preparing for all-out war, the war of all wars. But instead, so many Christians are ill prepared for what will soon envelop the whole world because of the pre-trib rapture teaching. They prepare not for what is about to happen and as a result, they will be sitting ducks for the enemy to take out. If someone does not think they will enter into a war, they will not prepare themselves for it.

      Satan knows his time is coming, his last 42 months (except for a short time after the Millennium), and he wants to take out as many Christians as possible. Not as martyrs, but as those who will not remain firm in their faith. And that is a matter of salvation. For Jesus said we must remain firm in our faith until the end to be saved. And that is what you should set your sights upon—remaining firm in your faith UNTIL the end, not until right BEFORE the end.

      If you are a novice Christian, do not fall for the trap of a pre-tribulation rapture. While all hell is literally about to break loose, the trap is thinking you will have an easy way out of it. It is in Satan’s interest to have you fall for this trap. Thinking that Jesus will rapture you out of here before all hell breaks loose will only make you cannon fodder for the Devil and his forces when all hell does break loose.

      Do not be misled by what someone says the Bible says. Read the Bible for yourself. Read the 24th chapter of Matthew and you’ll see that Jesus comes for the Church after the tribulation period. Read the Book of Revelation and you’ll see that Jesus calls us to a patient and enduring faith during the time of the antichrist.

      If you have been misled by the pre-tribulation rapture, I bid you now to cut out this nonsense of thinking you won’t be here and run, not walk, but run for cover in the shadow of His wings (see Psalm 91) if you expect to endure until the end, whether the end for you is martyrdom or the Second Coming, which occurs at the end of this age at the 7th trumpet.

      For the truth on the rapture, see:

      /alternative/2013/02/rapture-alert-millions-of-christians-have-been-deceived-2561260.html

      Jesus was extremely adamant about warning us not to be deceived in the end times (the times in which we live):

      “And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.”
      —Matthew 24:4

      “For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”
      —Matthew 24:5

      “And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”
      —Matthew 24:11

      “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
      —Matthew 24:24

      Jesus was talking to the final generation, the one that sees His return.

      We know from the Scriptures that the antichrist will come with his great magic to deceive people. We also know that anyone who is deceived and receives the mark of the beast will suffer the full wrath of God and will end up in the lake of fire. So it is vital not to be deceived. Hence, we get repeated warnings from Jesus and the Apostles to not allow ourselves to be deceived.

      So I ask this of those Christians truly seeking truth:

      If Jesus is going to rapture the Church out of here before the antichrist comes upon the scene, why then did He warn us so adamantly about being deceived? If Christians aren’t going to be around for the great deception there would be no reason to warn them so adamantly about it.

      The truth of the matter is this: Jesus warned us because we WILL be here during the time of the beast, for Jesus prayed this to the Father:

      “I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.”

      —John 17:15

      The truth is our faith must be strong. We must be able to stand against the wiles of the Devil and his cohorts. It is only by the precious blood of Jesus and the words of our testimony that gives us victory over the Devil.

      If your faith is not firm, you will not be able to stand until the end. And only those who endure until the end are saved:

      “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”
      —Matthew 24:13

      Read, pray, and meditate upon the Scriptures. Search the Scriptures diligently and do not rely on what others say.

      It would do Christians of today well to consider what Isaac Newton said concerning the importance of Christians knowing the end time prophecies. Newton drew a parallel between how the learned Jews missed the first coming of the Messiah because they were deceived and how it will be no less possible for Christians to be deceived by the antichrist. Newton said if God was angry with the Jews for not searching more diligently into the prophecies which He had given them to know Christ by, why should we think He will excuse us for not searching into the prophecies which He has given us to know the antichrist by, for surely it must be as easy for Christians to be deceived by the antichrist as it was for the Jews to reject Christ, Newton postulated, saying it is as much our duty to endeavor to be able to know the antichrist and avoid him as it was the duty of the Jews to know Christ and to follow Him.

      The study of eschatology should be no small matter to Christians today. But sadly, many Christians today are indifferent and apathetic to eschatology because of this false belief that they won’t be here when all hell literally breaks loose, and so they are severely ill-prepared for what is about to happen and therefore in grave danger.

      The pre-trib rapture theory serves Satan’s purposes greatly. The many warnings of Jesus have fallen on millions of deaf ears because they don’t believe they will be here. And thanks in large part to the likes of Hal Lindsey and others who have lead millions astray, many are woefully unprepared for what is coming.

      The antichrist is coming to deceive who he can and to consume who he can. Woe unto those who are not ready.

    • HfjNUlYZ

      You know what I like about the Real John in Revelation, He knew so MUCH, this is the opposite about these stories, you know so LITTLE….in fact your out right deliberately ignorant, Yes’ you cause offense and you know it !! ?, you set out to divide from the beginning….So don’t expect “a lets kiss and all get along” that you offer at summing up your stories, after you assaulted a third of the Bride of Christ… :evil:

      You also claim you don’t build STRAW MEN but.. YOU DO..and also assume you know ALL the PTR views with your 3 pillars (is that like the 5 pillars of Islam …lol) and then attack those Proofs to show no PTR.

      And worst still you throw brick bats and stones and vilify the third of the AWAITING BRIDE by calling them peddlers of sorcery drug dealers for having the PTR view.. bloody unbelievable.

      This Omega shock is nothing more than stories (I’ve had a look and wasted 20mins of my life) All that’s there is a PUFFED UP TITLE from a PROUD person, as if YOU have some sort of secret information ?? NOT….with your MBA, and write as if the site is some sort of Peer Reviewed Journal by GOD mr Omega.

      I’ve no problem revealing I’m a carpenter a builder, as was NOAH and Y’shua , WE build UP the body not tear DOWN the body as you love to and have done, without LOVE you are nothing and your stories are nothing but a chiming cymbal.

      1 Corinthians 13:1
      If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, BUT DO NOT HAVE LOVE, I AM NOTHING.

      Your stories are found wanting you have TAKEN AWAY from the WORD of GOD and supplemented them with smoooth overtones of good will and assistance to help us.

      Matthew 24:37
      as in the days of NOAH so shall the coming of the LORD be …(the Righteous were LIFTED UP at the BEGINNING in the ARK above the Tumult.)…. protected/ hidden..in the AIR !!

      Untill that day NOAH entered the ARK the people Knew NOTHING …an unknown day that Once the DOOR is SHUT by GOD its NOT OPENED AGAIN…as shown BY the REAL JOHN in Revelation and the 10 Virgin Parable…at the BEGINNING.

      The Only “Omegashock” will be when the remaining BRIDE is LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE THEY WHERE NOT WATCHING…for that unknown date.

      enuff said

      • HfjNUlYZ

        God complexes you know them by THEIR MANY WORDS or (Pics) they supplement the WORD OF GOD. to their Own destruction.

        What they’re about.. Is to RE-DIRECT YOU to THEIR OWN PUFFED UP WEBSITES… FOR REPROGRAMMING…TO THEIR OWN POISONOUS INTERPRETATIONS … really beware !!!

        LET GOD and ONLY GOD through the power of the HOLY SPIRIT guide you, this is done by accepting Jesus into your heart and asking HIM the SPIRIT of TRUTH to guide you with your bible….WE are ALL born into a snare, ask GOD to show you the way, take particular care when so called Brethren or Yours in Christ are showing NO LOVE to their so called brothers and sisters, this is a clear sign to ALL, they are pretending to be one of US.

    • HfjNUlYZ

      http://mooglemeow.blogspot.com/2014/05/is-bibles-book-of-revelations.html?_escaped_fragment_=
      Is The Bible’s Book of Revelation A Plagiarism of the Sybelline Oracles Written in 510 BC?
      The Sibylline Revelation.
      Notes :
      The ‘immortal priestess,’ Herophile, considered to be the greatest seer of pagan antiquity, lived in a cave in Cumae, in Campania, Italy, and delivered oracular prophecies while in a state of trance. She was known as the Cumaean Sibyl.
      1, 2
      Around 510 BCE, she offered nine volumes of her prophecies, called ‘The Mysteries of Isis and Osiris,’ to the seventh Roman king, Tarquin the Proud, at the very high price of three hundred gold pieces. When the king declined to buy them, the prophetess departed, and burned three volumes in the palace courtyard. She offered the remaining six books, at the original price, and once again the king declined to buy. Three days later, the Sibyl returned, publicly burned three more volumes, and then offered the three that remained to the king at the original asking price for all nine. There was much local gossip at these strange events, and, Tarquin’s curiosity aroused, he purchased the three volumes. The Sibyl then departed, and was not seen again.
      3
      She was subsequently known to history as the Sibyl of Tarquin, and her three volumes became highly prized in the Roman Empire. They were kept in a specially carved marble chest commissioned by Tarquin, lined with ‘the purple of kings.’
      4
      Priests were appointed to interpret the writings,and scribes were assigned to produce exact copies. The original collection was jealously guarded in the temple of Jupiter Capitolinus, and frequently consulted by priests. In times of peril and disaster, the original copies were entrusted to curators, assisted by two Greek interpreters in reading the oracles aloud to the Senate. Tacitus recorded that statues of the Sibyl were idolised, and that ‘invocation was made, and lustral water was brought to wash her cella’ and her statue in the Capitol. Sometimes the statues were ceremoniously taken to the sea, and washed there.
      5
      The Sibyl’s writings, regarded as ‘the mouthpiece of the gods,’ were recognised as the most efficacious instruments in Roman religion, and were customarily observed and respected by all Romans.
      6
      The originals perished in the fire that destroyed the Temple of Capitolinusin 83 BCE, and were immediately replaced with copies from other temples. A special priestly college, called the Quindecimviri Sacris Faciundis, was set up by Julius Caesar, to take charge of the Sibylline books, and its sixteen members exercised great influence on decisions of state.
      7
      Augustus, the first Roman Emperor, directed the preparation of additional identical sets of the Sibyl’s oracles, and they were supplied to the Senate in Egypt, and to priests in all the Hellenised lands.
      8
      In 12 BCE, he transferred a special ‘pontifex’ collection to the Temple of Apollo, on the Palatine hill, where it remained until 405 CE. All this demonstrated their legal status, and their immeasurable worth,while misuse of the Sibyl’s oracles was punishable by death. For at least the first four centuries CE, the Sibylline Books were held to be the highest religious authority in the Roman Empire. So highly regarded were the Sibyl’s prophecies that the fourth century church usurped her second book, inserted narratives that dealt with Christian characters,and then said it was a divine revelation given to the apostle John by Jesus Christ from Heaven, and added it to their New Testament. 9 Church records state that Cerinthus ‘rewrote’ the original Sibyl’s prophecies to create a falsified version, that was adjusted again in the fourth century, when it was added to the New Testament. The early church was so concerned that the general populace would learn that its Book of Revelation was a forgery, that in 405 CE the Bishop of Rome ordered the Roman general Flavius Stilicho to burn as many copies of the Sibylline Books as he could find.
      10
      The Bishop of Alexandria, Dionysius (d.c. 204 CE), had much earlier denounced the Book of Revelation, as being “without sense or reason, a forgery by Cerinthus.”
      Bishop Eusibius had confirmed Dionysius’ findings: “But Cerinthus, by means of a revelation which he pretended was written by a great man, falsely pretended to wonderful things.”
      11
      The original author of the Book of Revelation,the Cumaean Sibyl, though, was always highly regarded as a clairvoyant by the Roman Catholic church. Even today, she can still be seen, magnificently portrayed by Michelangelo,in a prime central position among the great patriarchs of the Bible stories depicted on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, in the Vatican itself. A total of 278 verses of the Sibyl’s predictions are also found in the books of Exodus, Psalms, Isiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel and Zecheriah, indicating the high value placed on her forecasts by Old Testament authors. The Sibylline books were lost to history for many centuries, until the second book was discovered in the Vatican archives, some decades ago, by Edmond Szekely.
      12
      An Old Slavonic version was also found, in the the Habsburg Royal Library,and translated by Prof. Karl Fickler & Dr. Burgie Johansson.
      Notes: 1.Society in Imperial Rome;
      M. Massey, 1982, pg 103
      2. Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol XIII;
      1912, pg 720
      3.Titus Livy (Livius),
      also The Records of Rome, 1868,
      available in the British Library
      4. Pliny
      5. Annals of Tacitus
      15:44
      6. Dictionary of Greek & Roman Antiquities
      Sibyllini Libra
      7. Encyclopedia of the Roman Empire;
      Matthew Brunson; 1994, pg 584.
      8. Funk & Wagnell’s New Standard Dictionary;
      Sibylline Books, 1913.
      9.Ecclesiastical History,
      Eusebius, ii.10.Funk & Wagnall’s
      New Standard Dictionary;
      Sibylline Books; also
      Encyclopedia of the Roman Empire;
      Matthew Brunson; 1994, pg 396.
      11.Ecclesiastical History, iii,28
      Also
      Catholic Encyclopedia.
      Vol I (1907) pg 595.
      12. Szekely’s discoveries were subsequently published in book form during various periods, under the following names:
      The Essene Gospel of Peace, The Unknown Book of the Essenes, Lost Scrolls of the Essene Brotherhood,
      and
      Teachings of the Elect. Discovery of the Essene Gospel of Peace,
      published posthumously in 1989, gives the history of Edmund Szekely’s work, and the story of his discoveries in the Secret Vatican Archives.
      The above information has been summarised from material found in ‘The Crucifixion of Truth,’ by Tony Bushby, (Joshua Books,’04). Here, then, is the rediscovered sacred Sibylline book,in a version closely following the Fickler/Johansson translation of the Habsburg library’s Old Slavonic text, but put into contemporary language and layout, and with Roman copyists’ gender distortions corrected, so as to restore the conceptual integrity of the original work. Thus, for example, ‘brotherhood’ is rendered as ‘community’, ‘the Mother of All’ replaces ‘the Son of Man’, so as to return to Isis Her rightful place, and the Sibyl herself is addressed as ‘Woman.’ rather than ‘Man.’
      This rendering of the text is copyright registered with the IP Rights Office Copyright Registration Service,Ref: 278933020. All Rights Reserved. The complete work, without alteration, additions or deletions, exactly as it is here, including the introduction and footnotes, may be copied, forwarded, and shared, for the benefit of all. It may not, however, be broadcast, published dramatised, or otherwise used for profit, in whole or in part, without prior written consent.
      Numbers in the left margin below refer to the verses in the biblical book of Revelation which correspond to, having been constructed around, these passages.
      The Mysteries of Isis and Osiris.
      1:7 Behold, the Spirit of the Air shall bring Her, and every eye shall see Her. The Community, all the vast Community of the living, shall raise their voices as one, and sing, because of Her. Even so, Amen. 1:8 “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, which was, and is, and shall be.” 1:12 A voice spoke, and I turned to see who it was that spoke to me. Turning, I saw seven golden candles, and, in the midst of their blazing light, one who seemed to be the Mother of All, clothed in white, white as snow. Her voice filled the air with the sound of rushing water, and in Her hands were seven stars, full of the flaming light of the heavens from whence they came. She spoke, Her face streaming light, blazing and golden, like a thousand suns. 1:17 She said, “Have no fear. I am the first, and the last. I am the beginning, and the end. 1:19 Write the things which you have seen, the things which are, which are yet to be, the mystery of the seven stars which fill My hands, and the seven golden candles, blazing with eternal light. The seven stars are the Spirits of your father, the Sun, and the seven candles are the Spirits of your mother, the Earth. The Spirit of humanity is a flame, streaming between starlight and glowing candle, a bridge of holy light, shining between the heavens and the Earth.” 1:20 She who said these things holds the seven stars in Her hands. She walks in the midst of the flames of seven golden candles. Those who have ears to hear, let them hear the words of Mother Isis. “To whoever overcomes, I will give to eat of the Tree of Life, that stands in the midst of the shining paradise of Eternity.” 4:1 Then I looked, and behold, a door was opened in the heavens, and a voice which sounded from all sides, like a trumpet, spoke to me,“Come up here,and I will show you what must be, in the future.” Immediately I was there, in spirit, at the threshold of an open door. I entered through the open door, into a sea of blazing light. In the midst of that blinding ocean of radiance was a throne, on which sat one whose face was hidden, and there was a rainbow about that emerald-like throne. Around the throne were thirteen seats, and upon these seats I saw thirteen elders sitting, clothed in white, their faces hidden by swirling clouds of light.
      Seven lamps burned before the throne, the fire of our mother, the Earth, Seven stars shone before the throne, the fire of our father, the Sun. Before the throne was a sea of glass-like crystal, and reflected in it were all the mountains, and valleys and oceans of the Earth, and all the creatures living there. The thirteen elders bowed down before the splendour of the one who sat on the throne, whose face was hidden. Rivers of light streamed from their hands, one to the other, as they cried, ‘Holy, Holy, Holy, Mother of all Glory, Who was, and is, and is to come. You are worthy, O Great One, of glory, honour and power, for You created all that is.’ 5:1 Then I saw, in the right hand of the one who sat on the throne, whose face was hidden, a book, written within, and sealed with seven seals. I saw a Spirit, who was proclaiming with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the book, to loose its seals?” 5:3 No-one in Heaven, on the Earth, or under the Earth was able to open the book, or even to look upon it. I wept, because the book could not be opened, and I could not read what was written there. One of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Reach out your hand, and take the book, yes, this very book with seven seals. Open it, for it was written for you, – at once the lowest of the low, and the highest of the high.” I reached out my hand, touching the book.
      Behold ! The cover was lifted, my hands touched the golden pages, my eyes beheld the mystery of the seven seals. I heard the voices of many Spirits round about the throne, ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands upon thousands, singing with a loud voice, “All glory, and wisdom, and strength and power, for ever and ever, be to the one who shall reveal the Mystery of Mysteries.” I saw swirling clouds of golden light, stretching like a fiery bridge between my hands, the hands of the thirteen elders, and the feet of the one who sat on the throne,whose face was hidden. I opened the first seal, and beheld the Spirit of the Air. Between her lips flowed the breath of life. She bowed over the Earth, and gave to man the inspiration of Wisdom. Man breathed in. When he breathed out, the sky darkened, the sweet air became foul and fetid, and clouds of evil smoke hung low over all the Earth. I turned my face away in shame. 6:3 I opened the second seal, and beheld the Spirit of Water. Between her lips flowed the water of life She bowed over the Earth, and gave to man an ocean of Love.
      Man entered the clear and shining waters.When he touched the water, the clear streams darkened, the crystal waters became thick with slime, the fish lay gasping in the foul blackness, and all creatures died of thirst. I turned my face away in shame. 6:5 I opened the third seal, and beheld the Spirit of Fire.Between her lips flowed the light of life. She bowed over the Earth, and gave to man the fires of Power. The strength of the Sun entered into the heart of man. He took the power, and made with it a false sun. He spread abroad the fires of destruction, burning the forests, laying waste the green valleys, leaving only the charred bones of his brothers. I turned my face away in shame. 6:7 I opened the fourth seal, and beheld the Spirit of Joy. Between her lips flowed the music of life. Bowing over the Earth, She gave to man the song of Peace, and peace and joy, like music, flowed through the soul of man. He heard nothing but the harsh discord of sadness and discontent. He lifted his sword, and cut off the hands of the peacemakers, lifted it once again, and cut off the heads of the singers. I turned my face away in shame. 6:9 I opened the fifth seal, and beheld the Spirit of Life. Between her lips flowed the covenant between all that lives and humanity. She bowed over the Earth and gave to man the gift of Creation.
      The forests and trees were burnt up, and all green grass shriveled to cinders. 8:8 The second Spirit sounded, and, as it were, a great mountain, burning with fire, was cast into the sea. Blood rose from the Earth as a vapour. 8:10 The third Spirit sounded, and a great star fell from heaven, burning as if it were a lamp. It fell upon the rivers and fountains, turning them to bitter poison. 8:12 The fourth Spirit sounded, and there was a great earthquake. The Sun turned black, a sackcloth of hair, and the Moon became as blood. 9:1 The fifth Spirit sounded, and the stars of heaven fell to earth, even as a fig tree casts her unripe figs, when shaken by a mighty wind. 9:13 The sixth Spirit sounded – the heavens departed like a rolled up scroll. Over the whole Earth there was not one tree, one flower, one blade of grass. I stood on the Earth, and my feet sank into the soil, soft and thick with blood, stretching as far as the eye could see. Over all the Earth was silence. 10:1 The seventh Spirit sounded, and I saw a mighty being come down from the heavens, clothed with a cloud. A rainbow was upon his head, his face was like the sun, his feet pillars of fire. In his hand was an open book.
      He set his right foot upon the sea, and he set his left foot on the earth,crying with a loud voice, wonderous to hear, “Woman, would you have this vision come to pass ?” I answered, “You know, O Holy One, that I would do anything that these terrible things might not happen.” He spoke, “Man has created these powers of destruction. He has brought them into being from his own mind. He has turned his face away from the Spirits of his Father Sun and his Mother Earth – he has fashioned his own destruction.” I asked, “Then is there no hope, bright Spirit ?”A blazing light streamed like a river from his hands, as he answered, “There is always hope, O you for whom Heaven and Earth were created,” 10:5 The Spirit, standing on the sea and on the earth, lifted up his hand to the heavens. He swore by the One who lives for ever, who created the Heavens, all that is in them, the Earth, all within her, the sea, and all it contains, that there should be time no longer, but that, in the days of the voice of the seventh Spirit,when he shall begin to sound, the Mystery of absolute unity should be revealed to those who have eaten of the Tree of Life, which stands forever, in the Eternal Sea.The voice spoke again, saying, “Go, take the book, which is open in the hands of the Spirit who stands on the sea and on the earth.”
      There fell upon men a great hail out of the heavens, every stone about the weight of a gold talent. A mighty Spirit took up a stone, like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, “Thus, with violence, shall the great city be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. The voice of harps, and musicians, and pipers, and of singers and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in you. No craftsman, whatever his craft, shall be found any more in you. The sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in you. The light of a candle shall shine no more in you. The voice of the bridegroom and the bride shall be heard no more at all in you. For your merchants were the great men of the Earth. By your sorceries all men were deceived.In you was found the blood of prophets, saints, and of all who were slain upon the Earth.” My brothers laid hold of my hand, struggled out of the slimy pit, and stood, bewildered, on the sand. The skies opened, washing their naked bodies with rain. I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder. I heard the music of a great many harps,singing, as it were, a new song before the throne. 14:6 I saw a Spirit flying in heaven, having songs of day and night, the everlasting teaching to preach to them that dwell on the Earth,
      until they climb from the pit of slime, and stand, naked, and washed by the rain, before the throne. The Spirit cried, “Fear the Almighty, and give glory to the Absolute, for the hour of judgement is come. Worship the Mother of the heavens and the earth, the sea, and the fountains of the waters”. 19:11 I saw the heavens open, and beheld a white horse. He that rode him is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns. He was cloaked in blazing light, and his feet were bare. His name is the Word of Truth. The Holy Community followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. They entered the Eternal Garden, in whose midst is the Tree of Life. The rain-washed, naked throngs came before them, trembling, to receive their judgement. Their sins were many, for they had defiled the Earth, destroyed the creatures of land and sea, poisoned the ground, fouled the waters and the air, and buried alive the mother who had given them birth. But I did not see what befell them, for my vision changed.
      21:1 I saw a new Heaven, and a new Earth, for the first Heaven and the first Earth were passed away. I saw the Holy House of the Community of Life coming down, out of the Heavens, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. I heard a great voice out of Heaven, saying, “Lo, the mountain of your Father is established above all mountains,and the house of your Mother is exalted above the hills. All people shall flow into it. Come, let us go up the mountain, and to the house of your Mother. You shall walk in his paths, she shall teach you of her ways. The Way shall go forth, out of the Holy Congregation. Behold, Heaven’s House is here with you. He himself shall dwell with you, and you shall be his people. She herself shall be with you, and you shall be her children. She shall wipe away all tears from your eyes. There shall be no more fear of death, neither sorrow nor crying, nor shall there be any more pain, for the former things are passed away. Those who made war shall beat their swords into ploughshares, their spears into pruning hooks. Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, nor shall they learn war anymore, for the former things are passed away.” 22:13 The voice spoke again, “Behold, I make all things new. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give freely to the one who is athirst, of the fountain of the water of life.
      Whoever overcomes shall inherit all things – I shall be your parent, and you My child. But the fearful and unbelieving,the abominable, murderers and liars, shall dig their own pit, burning with fire and brimstone.” Again my vision changed. I heard the voices of the Holy Community, raised in song, saying, “Come, let us walk in the light of the Way”. I saw the Holy House, and all of the people streaming into her. This house needs no sun, nor moon to shine upon her, for divine glory illumines her. I saw the pure, crystal clear river of the Water of Life, flowing from the throne of the Source of all that is. In the river stands the Tree of Life, bearing fourteen different kinds of fruit, and yielding her fruit to those who would eat of it. The leaves of the Tree are for the healing of the people. There is no night there, they need no candle, nor the light of the sun, for the Almighty gives them light, and they shall live for ever and ever. I have reached the inner vision, and by the grace of Your spirit within me, I have heard Your wondrous secret. Through Your mystic insight
      You have caused a spring of knowledge to well up within me – a fountain of power, pouring forth living waters, a flood of love, and of all-embracing wisdom, like the splendour of Eternal Light.

    • HfjNUlYZ

      Pre-tribbers say Jesus will rapture you out of here before the tribulation starts.

      But Jesus said:

      “I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.”

      —John 17:15

      Who should you believe then, the pre-tribbers or Jesus?

    • HfjNUlYZ

      Pre-tribbers say the rapture comes first and then the antichrist comes.

      But in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Paul said the antichrist will come on the scene first and the rapture (the gathering together) happens after that.

      Who should you believe then, the pre-tribbers or the Apostle Paul?

    • HfjNUlYZ

      Pre-tribbers say the wheat will be gathered up before the tares.

      But in Matthew 13:30, Jesus said the tares will be gathered up first, before the wheat.

      Who should you believe then, the pre-tribbers or Jesus?

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