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Simpsons Shows 0 Seconds to Rapture at 12:00 O'clock on 9 22 Yom Kippur 2015

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This episode of The Simpsons is from October 12, 2014 (episode #555 “Super Franchise Me”) and clearly shows something is coming. This episode was produced before much of the hype about September 2015. The 12:00 could be pointing to mid-day on 9/22, when the Day of Atonement begins in America, or it could be referring to midnight – the cry goes out at midnight that the Bridegroom is coming and the chains fell off Paul and Silas at midnight as they were worshiping the Lord and an earthquake took place.

A lot of good people of Christ are seeing visions. It seems that we are living in the latter days and God is showing us dreams and he wants us to warn others about our dreams, like Joseph did. The dreams that God is showing us may fulfilled after decades or days. It is According to Acts 2:17 – And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.

Joseph had dreams and his dreams were fulfilled after more than a decade. God was teaching Joseph to become patient and God wanted us to learn from Joseph. In these three part testimony videos, Renee N. Moses , a very good follower of Jesus, is presenting to us her dreams. “The lord clearly told me something I would write would help safe millions of people from the coming deception.”

“I [Renee] intend to show you from the Scriptures how that the “Day of the Lord” will begin on September 23, 2015, the “Day of Atonement”. Most of you reading this book will be reading it after this date and you will have been left behind. I write this for you, so that you can know for certain that what took place was actually the “Rapture”, or “Great Escape”* mentioned in the Bible and that it was not something else, such as an alien invasion or intervention of planet earth by extra-terrestrials. The Bible warns us that there will be a great deception** that will happen at this time to try to deceive you into believing a lie about what has happened and is now happening on earth.” excerpt from Renee’s The Rapture Puzzle Book

“I share some of my testimony and how the Lord led me to September 23, 2015, the Day of Atonement, as the first rapture event of the Bride of Christ.” Renee N. Moses

My Testimony (Part 2 of 3)

Joel 2:31-32: 31 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord. 32 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the Lord has said, even among the survivors whom the Lord calls.

“Before we go further into this, let’s go back to the Year of Jubilee and one more important clue about the 70 weeks in Daniel. The first 69 weeks are actually divided into two numbers for us. 7 weeks and 62 weeks. I believe the Lord intentionally did this so that it would read like this: “So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah, the Prince, there will be seven weeks…” It then goes onto mention the 62 weeks. But if we just stop reading right there, we have this 7 weeks, or 49-year period, from when Jerusalem starts to be rebuilt. Jerusalem was recaptured on June 7, 1967. This was the last time the land that rightfully belonged to Israel was given back to her. If we count off 49 prophetic years of 360 days from this time, we come to September 23, 2015, the Day of Atonement.” Excerpt from Renee’s The Rapture Puzzle Book

My Testimony (Part 3 of 3)

“The Bible refers to God’s people as the “Bride of Christ” (see Revelation 19:7-9, Revelation 21:2,9, Ephesians 5:25-27, John 3:29, 2 Corinthians 11:2). When a man marries a woman, everything that belongs to him is now hers as well; they are co-heirs together. We will rule and reign with Christ; we, as His people, are like the “Queen” and He is our “King”. For one year, we will be together with Christ in the heavenlies, and Jesus, the restrainer (see 2 Thessalonians 2), will be with His Bride, no longer fighting Satan or restraining him. Satan will have one final year to do as he pleases. This is why Jesus said, “About that DAY or HOUR, no man knows – NOT EVEN THE SON, but ONLY THE FATHER.”
 
Jesus does not know what will happen on that “DAY”, the final day of Daniel’s 70th week, because Jesus will not be here. He will be with His Bride, cheering her up, resting together during the “Year of Jubilee”. The Year of Jubilee starts on the Day of Atonement, 49 prophetic years after the Jewish people were given back the land that rightfully belonged to her and from the day when the decree went out to rebuild and restore Jerusalem. If we count off 17,640 days from June 7, 1967, we end right on September 23, 2015, the Day of Atonement.” excerpt from Renee’s The Rapture Puzzle Book

“Jesus seems to imply in Matthew 24 that the desolation occurs right after the abomination is set up. He warns those living in Judea to flee to the mountains immediately, and not even go back in their house to get their coats or belongings. Right after He warns those living in Judea to flee to the mountains, He then goes on to tell us that unless these days of Great Tribulation are shortened, no flesh would survive. The Lord also told us in Matthew 25 and Revelation 10 that the Bridegroom would be delayed. If we count right from the abomination being set up on March 22, 2013, until the first day of Hanukkah in 2016, which I believe will be the Second Coming of Christ to earth right on Christmas Day, we have a total of 1,374 days.

If we divide that number by 3, or multiply by 1/3, we have 458 days of darkness. Now, counting from September 24, 2015, the day after the Day of Atonement in 2015, until Hanukkah 2016, we have 458 days. This is exactly 1/3 of the days counting from the Abomination being set up on March 22, 2013, which Jesus alluded to as the start of the desolation, until Hanukkah 2016, the very end of the Great Tribulation. Could the Scriptures be saying that only 1/3 of the days The Rapture Puzzle • Putting The Scriptural Pieces Together 43 Chapter 6 • Puzzle Pieces 14 & 15 appointed for tribulation will be darkened? In other words, is the Scripture pointing us to the Great Tribulation only being 1/3 of the appointed time?” excerpt from Renee’s The Rapture Puzzle Book

Čeština: Z Jewish Art od Grace Cohena Grossmana

Massive Asteroid To Hit Earth September 2015

Credit for video goes to Renee M “I’ve heard about this from many different sources over the months, but now I believe Jade Helm may be tied into this whole scenario. They are going to take advantage of the opportunity of a meteor strike to declare nationwide martial law. This is probably what they’re preparing for. Get ready folks. This just got real.”

 

 

SOURCE: https://www.scribd.com/doc/265615254/The-Rapture-Puzzle-Putting-the-scriptural-pieces-together#page=14

 

The Illuminati know what is coming September 22-28, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCoGD…

TORAH CODES SHOCKING EVIDENCE about Obama and “asteroid” for 2015/2016!!! 
https://youtu.be/H7MxvPNPVlk

Leaked ‘Destiny’ Plans Show Massive ‘Comet’ Expansion In Fall 2015 & More 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w7lV…

The House of Cards will FALL – September 23, 2015 is the first day of the FALL
https://youtu.be/x1RFVxozg0k

Does the Scripture tell us the date of the Rapture and Sudden Destruction?
https://youtu.be/tjPvwB5PuA8

Mr. Obama’s April Fool’s Day joke – no laughing matter!!! USA will fall like a “House of Cards”!!
https://youtu.be/PJG78CaGrCw

266th Pope visits White House on 266th day of the year (266 days from conception to birth)
https://youtu.be/qP_RU1Q85bo

Isaac Newton’s September 23, 2015 prophecy; September 24, 2015- “100% PROBABILITY” of Asteroid
https://youtu.be/UiUrevq2Ko0

How to prepare for what is coming in September 2015
https://youtu.be/y_n5pZ2KcjY

September 21, 2015 – International Day of Peace – When they say PEACE and security…
https://youtu.be/DXsY3L45pW4

CERN – the key to the Abyss – September 2015
https://youtu.be/I6dlVCxRdgs

SEPTEMBER 2015: When the Year of lucifer COLLIDES with the Year of Jubilee (5776)
https://youtu.be/exH_wHV19CM

September 23/24, 2015 – Judgement Day: “The Alarm Bells Keep Ringing!!”
https://youtu.be/h-p5CiEm_6Y

An asteroid or meteor will hit the earth on September 24, 2015 – you have been warned!!!
http://youtu.be/1g0GaGGqzkI

About that day and hour no one knows
http://youtu.be/H7FmFiqMcR0

Prepare for the Day of Atonement (September 23, 2015)!!!
http://youtu.be/K1Mr_YyYWnk

Supernatural confirmations that September 23, 2015, starts the Year of Jubilee 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqyBR…

September 23, 2015, begins the Year of Jubilee for the Raptured Saints!!!
http://youtu.be/B63Bv2OMXrc

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    • Room With a View

      This article is a deception………don’t believe it. If anyone is removed from the earth, it is the wicked. The tares will be removed first, then the wheat gathered into the barn. It is the angels who do the gathering.
      Why do you long for the Day of the Lord, it will be like a man who escapes from a lion, only to be taken by a bear, or a man who rests against a wall only to be bitten by a snake.
      Do not believe the Rapture lie, when Yeshua returns, he is coming with a sword, and he will slay the wicked with the breath of his mouth. He is bringing his reward with him, repent from believing the lies spouted by that false apostle antichrist Paul and his false gospel, the ravings of a madman, instead believe in the words of the Prophets and the Torah. If it was good enough for Yeshua to walk in the way of the Mosaic Law, and we seek to be like Him, then we should follow Yeshua’s example, not that deluded antichrist Paul. Save yourselves by becoming obedient to God’s law, don’t be counted with the goats who will be ordered to depart from His presence, do not be counted with the wicked and find yourselves weeping and gnashing your teeth. Stop protecting your doctrine and seek the TRUTH, or become like chaff that is burned. Ask yourself the question that Yeshua asked……Will you be worthy to escape? There is no such thing as a free lunch…..Pauline Christianity IS the deception.

      • Michael Carrigan

        It is you who lies.

        • DistantCousin

          I’m sure he would be quite glad to be wrong.
          Being wrong is a quick ticket away from pain, suffering,
          and Death.
          I can only see obsessively embracing the Rapture as
          an act of Cowardice.

          RR

          • Miggy

            Nothing wrong with viewing The Bible with faith, as the Holy Spirit moves him to. God has a history of sparing his people. Noah and Lot are just two examples and don’t forget the red sea. The rapture is truth but the bottom line is Jesus Christ died for the sins we all know we have committed. Accept this sacrifice and be saved, perish eternally if not.

            Let’s not throw personal attacks, lets just talk about how humanity was created and since we all will die someday whats next.

            1 Thessalonians 4:17 – Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (this is the rapture scripture)

            John 3:16

        • goodbees

          It is him and the article that lie. Jesus is an invention of Rome.

      • qaneh-bosem honestyherb

        |If it was good enough for Yeshua to walk in the way of the Mosaic Law”
        Have you really checked all that is in the Moses’ Law?
        In the Instructions ( Torah ) there are instructions ( that shape the soul )
        of doing slavery, rape, abortion,bondage, theft, war, murder, harsh punishments,
        cannibalism…and words of taking war to the ends of the earth, if figured necessary.

        This does not line up with ‘loving your neighbor as yourself”
        or “as you would men do unto you, so do you unto them”,
        both statements Y’shua said were equal to the Law and Prophets.

        So, how do you figure this ?
        ___

        Believers are able love Paul, even though in his ( ? )
        writings are major diametric angles against the Words of Y’shua.

        One example with 2 apps._
        Hierarchy and Titles__Y’shua commanded not to do this !
        ( one of those commandments you’re supposed to keep….. so that your are sure
        to enter in. ) Uh Oh !
        Still want to pay attention to Paul and his hierarchy and titles ?

        Y’shua says that there is one Shepherd, and He is that One.

      • maxxy

        room w/ a view….what you are not understanding is: at the coming of Christ at the last (7th) trump, all flesh is changed to spirit. Its the end of the age. Physical identification is over…..only those in the Holy Spirit really know the reality of what’s ahead. It is a ‘dimensional’ upgrade….you are equipped and ready, now for the change or you are not…..If you are not, this is what happens to people who exclude the teachings of God’s ‘chosen’ vessel: second death. Death of the soul. If your identity is a physical identification….you just don’t have what it takes to get where you want to go.

      • evopilot

        “There’s no such thing as a FREE lunch”!? Did I ask to be born into this corrupt world? Was I given a choice as to whether I become a few cells in the womb? It’s the same old crap “Do what he asks or you’ve had it”, what a choice, boy oh boy what a frickin choice that is!!!!!!
        I am here, without knowledge (proven beyond a doubt) of ‘why’ I’m here; speculation suggests that either I am to learn of my heritage – Annunaki, Pharaohs etc, or just live my life as a slave paying for things that should be free. My opinion (for whats it worth) is that we really have no idea as to why we are here otherwise there wouldn’t be people stealing from the poor, killing mercilessly in order to grab more land, taking people’s homes, stealing technology and suppressing it only to be used for those who believe they are gods; arguing over countless religions to who is right…blah, blah, blah.
        I was born into a family where father kicked the crap out of me every year for 14 years until I left home, never to go back and never to see him again, if this was the reason I was put on this earth then shoot me now plzzzz.

        • maxxy

          evopilot….Now that was a truly heartbreaking post.
          ….You have recognized the evil in this world, for what it is…..this gives you a leg up on much of the world’s people. This small moral advantage that you have within your soul, IS the reason you are here now.
          The only way we get ‘proof beyond doubt’, is by making a very specific and heartfelt request for it, to Father YHVH, in the name of his Savior Jesus the Christ. For a materialist, the physical reality of everyday life, conceals the spiritual truth, of why we are here. The only key to understanding is in the Word of God. Although all the information is contained within all of us, we need prompting and instructions and self awareness to reveal it to our consciousness.
          God bless you in your search for self affirmation.

      • Cyalata

        The BIBLE most definitely talk about a rapture. See 1 Cor 15:51 and 1 Thessalonian 4. To say that there will be no rapture event is synonymous with saying there is no heaven or there is no hell or GOD don’t exist. The BIBLE talks about all those things. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is a thing of the past. Don’t be so dismissive. Take a closer look at the scriptures. I only named two scriptures but there are a lot more. A lot of people have there own idea and reasonings of when the rapture (Memorial or Holy Convocation of Trumpets according to Leviticus 23) will take place including myself but that’s not Bible but our opinions. If you care to opine further, call me at
        1-800-NOT-HAPPENING*

    • Ecclesia Militans

      The Rapture is a Protestant heresy! The devil has deceived Evangelicals!

      • Michael Carrigan

        Scripture must be fulfilled. Deal not foolishly.

      • goodbees

        The devil has deceived all Christians into not taking action against evil. The bible says that all governments are of God. So does that mean that God is pitting one of his govs against another? Isn’t that more like what satan would do?

        If you believe that the US or Israeli (or any westernized nation) govs are of God then you are lost.

        • qaneh-bosem honestyherb

          “The bible says that all governments are of God.”

          ‘bible’ is not a person, and cannot speak, seeing that
          the letters on the page of the bible are just letters.

          The simple reason that the Good News is about the Kingdom of God
          is that all other Kingdoms ( Governments ) are evil_only God is good.

          ‘Every’ evil spirit must obey “in the name of Y’shua ( Jesus ) when spoken
          by a believer ( present tense ), in commanding them in some way.

          Now, why is that ?

          A person can blah blah blah ‘scripture’ until they can’t no more,
          but the Power of God manifest the Truth of Who is Who.

          In other words…..” Throw Down”, lets see what a person’s “theology”
          amounts to_as Y’shua exhorted_
          “or else believe Me for the very works’ sake.”

        • MikeSavage

          goodbees;
          The scriptures say that all governments exist because of the arrangement God set forth, not that they “are of God”. God didn’t create, or condone one single government of Earth, since they are all, essentially, the result of Satan allowing them, since he is the current ruler of Earth. The final battle will happen to bring Satan’s rulership of Earth to an end. The world, as it is, is a result of Satan’s influences. Jesus said to be “no part of the world”, including politics, loving the things the world loves, war, government, etc. We are to live as alien residents IN the world, but to be no PART of the world in order to be true Christians, including being NO PART OF FALSE RELIGION (all religions) as they are the greater part of Babylon the Great and teach nothing but lies. All of them.

        • MikeSavage

          goodbees;
          Romans 12:17 Return evil for evil to no one. Take into consideration what is fine from the viewpoint of all men. 18 If possible, as far as it depends on you, be peaceable with all men. 19 Do not avenge yourselves, beloved, but yield place to the wrath; for it is written: “‘Vengeance is mine; I will repay,’ says Jehovah.” 20 But “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by doing this you will heap fiery coals on his head.” 21 Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil, but keep conquering the evil with the good.

          Until Satan’s rule of Earth ends at the battle of Armageddon, we must adhere to God’s commands. After which, He will give us a new set of scrolls to learn and to teach. That is, if we intend to obey Him and do His will. Otherwise, we are gone. Forever.

      • MikeSavage

        The “rapture” definately is a lie. The ones who believe in such a rediculous thing are of low intelligence, and have mistaken the scriptures that tell us that the remnant of the holy spirit annointed 144,000 are to be figuratively taken away into the clouds moments before the final battle, to help Jesus fight such battle. Having no idea what any scripture means, most people interpret (guess at) them. Guessing is the action of the insane. Interpreting therefore is the action of the insane. There exists a scripture where God says “interpretation belongs only to me”. There are others that say that anyone adding to or taking away one word from any prophecy of scripture is “God’s enemy”. Interpreting is exactly that, adding to or taking away from the scriptures. Interpreting, therefore, makes one God’s enemy.

        • Crazy times

          MS …Bahwahahaaa low Intelligence that’s great coming from u,the one who savages the Word of God on every occasion,one who uses the WitchTower Mag as Holy Scriptures from the New World Translation of Satan, u really are a voice for Satan himself !!…. the enemy of mankind…Revelation say’s…ur poor naked,and blind, ur in fact (as He say’s) your wretched before God… who sees ALL …Your MODERN CONgregation The Kingdom Hall from Hell, is an abomination to the Lord , repent or He will spew you out, and at his appearing, u will be found naked.. u and ur Congregation of false witnesses.

          Honesty is all that is required, using the Holy Scriptures which were delivered unto the Saints….NOT some New… NWT… from the Pit of Hell.

          Here are the TRUE WITNESSES founded on the day of Pentecost …the founding of the Church…a few thousand years ago.

          (Acts 1:6-8).
          8 but you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and YOU shall be MY WITNESSES both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and EVEN TO the REMOTEST part of the EARTH,” (Acts 1:6-8).

          (THAT’S NOT YOUR CONgregation of false witnesses… spoken of here)

          “you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you”

          Your DENIAL of the Truth that Y’shua is Lord EXCLUDES you from ANY Intelligent exegesis and or eisegesis of the True Scriptures…futhermore u don’t even USE THEM.

          Truly, just as the Israelites wasted 40 years of going around the mountain, So have you, You’ve learned NOTHING in 40 yrs, a lousy witness to boot.

          So it comes as no surprise , its you who speaks the lie here…

          Warning :arrow: Be careful how you hear, as if it’s from the lord.

          • MikeSavage

            Crazy Times;
            Does posting such lies as your post here, take work, or does it come naturally? Your idea of studying the scriptures, is to read what someone else wrote.
            Actually, the Christian Congregation of holy spirit annointed apostles and disciples WAS the beginning of the congregation to which I belong. It continues still to this day. You reject it, because you’re not annointed with holy spirit, don’t know anyone who is, and reject the teachings of the remnant that are still alive today. In effect, you reject God and His inspired word. I can tell you with 100% assurance that there is no benefit in doing that.

    • DrRockso

      Oooor, you’re all wrong. You all just really don’t want for this one life to be all that we get. You’re too damn scared of that!
      The hoping and wishing for some sort of conscious afterlife where we all get to go to some heaven and be with our loved ones and live in peace and harmony for all of eternity is nothing but a pipe dream belonging to those who are afraid to die. Get over it.
      We have ONLY this one life to live. This is all we get – when we’re dead, there is no more consciousness as there is no more living mind to contain it.
      Make the most of it!! Spend your days living and loving the people who are on this tiny mote of dust flying through the awesomeness of the universe. Live and Love and Laugh as much as you can, because that is ALL there is.

      • goodbees

        Wow, you died and found out that there is nothing afterward! Oh, I see, you are just giving an opinion. Maybe you should have started with “I believe”.

        • MikeSavage

          goodbees;
          The scriptures are pretty clear that we don’t have an immortal soul, there is no hellfire, and no one but the annointed go to heaven. Those are teachings from Babylon that are part of all religions. The teachings are pagan. That’s why the scriptures tell us to have not one thing to do with religions.
          As far as paradise, yes, we are promised eternal LIFE in paradise. We either survive armageddon, although only about 8 to 10 million will survive, or we are resurrected to a paradise Earth. Those who survive will begin the process of the restoration of Earth to a paradise as originally intended, and will teach the ones who are resurrected about God and His requirements. We have no “afterlife” as we have no separate “soul”. Soul and life are synonyms, not two separate parts of us. Those are teachings of pagans injected into Christendom, not into Christianity which is no religion.

      • Norry

        So how do you explain away the spirit world ? Or have you not encountered it ?

        You have no idea of what is, after the body dies ! A sad assumption of a spirits’ experience on this planet.
        Nothing is wasted in this or in any other universe !

        Live all days as they be your last ! Fear nothing !

        • MikeSavage

          doggy do;
          Likewise, anyone who interprets scriptures are in sad need of help also. God said “does not interpretation belong only to Me?” He was saying we are NOT to interpret the scriptures, but to study them, and compare them to each other scripture to discern the ACCURATE meaning of EACH ONE. Not to GUESS at their meaning, which is what interpreting actually is. They each and every one stand on their own, as long as they are in harmony with EACH OTHER SCRIPTURE. If a scripture isn’t in harmony with all other scriptures according to what you THINK it means, you haven’t gotten it’s true meaning and need to keep studying it.

        • MikeSavage

          Norry;
          The only spirit world is the one in which God and all of His angels and His son live within. Satan and one third of the angels God created have been cast out of heaven to the “vicinity of the Earth”. No other such “spirit world” exists. We have nothing of us that survives our death.

    • The Watcher

      Just another church trap!

    • obadiahorthodox

      The pre tribulation rapture is false doctrine

    • Andoron

      The long list of false rapture dates Renee Moses has given goes back for almost a decade. Simply Google 5 doves Ranee Moses and you’ll see. Listening to her date setting is about as smart as swatting a hungry lion on the butt.

      • Susie

        Your right she is WRONG!
        She does Know what the Bible Says!!!
        According to the Bible we go through a 7
        year tribulation. Not what she says
        a short tribulation.

        • maxxy

          ….Mt. 24-22: And except those days be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those will be shortened.
          ….Mk 13-20:And except He had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake whom He has chosen, He hath shortened those days.

        • MikeSavage

          Susie;
          Are you able to show, using scriptures, that we go through a 7 year tribulation?

    • doggy do

      Anyone who depends on The Simpsons to interpret scripture is in sad need of help.

    • Large Fuck Driver

      More shilling from the Euro-jew / Edomite John Ale.

    • Judge Roy Bean

      Satan’s 42 month must come first and then Yahweh’s judgements on the ungodly, the wicked will be removed by the angels as the earth is reserved for Yahshua and his followers for his millennium reign.

      • goodbees

        Yahweys Judgement? The bible clearly says over and over again that Yah inherited Israel. How can God inherit his own creation?

        You see, I used to be a Christian until I read and studied the bible.

        • Mayhem

          Perhaps you are overly reliant on the English translation of Scripture, goodbees, because the word translated as “inheritance” can also mean “possession” or “property”. In examining occurrences of this word it is contextually obvious that what is being spoken of is His Land and His People, chosen from the beginning.

          H5159 – נַחֲלָה – nachalah – possession, property, inheritance.

          • goodbees

            I use esword which has the original Hebrew words and meanings. I see your defintion is incomplete.

            H5159
            נחלה
            nachălâh
            nakh-al-aw’
            From H5157 (in its usual sense); properly something inherited, that is, (abstractly) occupancy, or (concretely) an heirloom; generally an estate, patrimony or portion: – heritage, to inherit, inheritance, possession. Compare H5158.

            The word only has one meaning. If it were simply a possession then the work inheritance (H5159) would be unnecessary.

            1Sa_10:1 Then SamuelH8050 tookH3947 (H853) a vialH6378 of oil,H8081 and pouredH3332 it uponH5921 his head,H7218 and kissedH5401 him, and said,H559 Is it notH3808 becauseH3588 the LORDH3068 hath anointedH4886 thee to be captainH5057 overH5921 his inheritance?H5159

            1Sa_26:19 NowH6258 therefore, I pray thee,H4994 let my lordH113 the kingH4428 hearH8085 (H853) the wordsH1697 of his servant.H5650 IfH518 the LORDH3068 have stirred thee upH5496 against me, let him acceptH7306 an offering:H4503 but ifH518 they be the childrenH1121 of men,H120 cursedH779 be theyH1992 beforeH6440 the LORD;H3068 forH3588 they have driven me outH1644 this dayH3117 from abidingH4480 H5596 in the inheritanceH5159 of the LORD,H3068 saying,H559 Go,H1980 serveH5647 otherH312 gods.H430

            2Sa_14:16 ForH3588 the kingH4428 will hear,H8085 to deliverH5337 (H853) his handmaidH519 out of the handH4480 H3709 of the manH376 that would destroyH8045 me and my sonH1121 togetherH3162 out of the inheritanceH4480 H5159 of God.H430

            2Sa_20:19 IH595 am one of them that are peaceableH7999 and faithfulH539 in Israel:H3478 thouH859 seekestH1245 to destroyH4191 a cityH5892 and a motherH517 in Israel:H3478 whyH4100 wilt thou swallow upH1104 the inheritanceH5159 of the LORD?H3068

            2Sa_21:3 Wherefore DavidH1732 saidH559 untoH413 the Gibeonites,H1393 WhatH4100 shall I doH6213 for you? and wherewithH4100 shall I make the atonement,H3722 that ye may blessH1288 (H853) the inheritanceH5159 of the LORD?H3068

            1Ki_8:51 ForH3588 theyH1992 be thy people,H5971 and thine inheritance,H5159 whichH834 thou broughtest forthH3318 out of Egypt,H4480 H4714 from the midstH4480 H8432 of the furnaceH3564 of iron:H1270

            1Ki_8:53 ForH3588 thouH859 didst separateH914 them from among allH4480 H3605 the peopleH5971 of the earth,H776 to be thine inheritance,H5159 asH834 thou spakestH1696 by the handH3027 of MosesH4872 thy servant,H5650 when thou broughtestH3318 (H853) our fathersH1 out of Egypt,H4480 H4714 O LordH136 GOD.H3068

            Furthermore, the bible clearly says that the Gods (plural) created the heavens and the earth. Not yahwey or jesus. Elohim does not mean Yahweyh. Yah never even claimed to be God or the creator.

            He said, “I will be your God and you will be my people” Notice he insn’t speaking past tense or present tense. He is speaking future tense. Meaning that in the past he was not their god.

            Also notice he does not say I am everyone’s god or the god. He just says I will be your God.

            • goodbees

              Here is an example of anther variation of the word being used in exactly the same way.

              Exo_34:9 And he said,H559 IfH518 nowH4994 I have foundH4672 graceH2580 in thy sight,H5869 O Lord,H136 let my Lord,H136 I pray thee,H4994 goH1980 amongH7130 us; forH3588 itH1931 is a stiffneckedH7186 H6203 people;H5971 and pardonH5545 our iniquityH5771 and our sin,H2403 and take us for thine inheritance.H5157

            • goodbees

              H5157
              נחל
              nâchal
              naw-khal’
              A primitive root; to inherit (as a (figurative) mode of descent), or (generally) to occupy; causatively to bequeath, or (generally) distribute, instate: – divide, have ([inheritance]), take as an heritage, (cause to, give to, make to) inherit, (distribute for, divide [for, for an, by], give for, have, leave for, take [for]) inheritance, (have in, cause to be made to) possess (-ion).

            • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

              “I will be your God and you will be my people…”

              What verse are you quoting here, Goodbees? Exodus 6:7 perhaps? Either way you have a problem. You just improperly defined the word ELOHIM in your post above. If your translation of that word is correct, then the Almighty has said to the Israelites:

              ‘I will be your GODS and you will be my people.’

              You’ll need to be more consistent than that if you expect to gain any traction in this endeavor.

            • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

              Frankly speaking, Goodbees…

              You don’t like the idea of The Creator inheriting His own Creation. I can understand that. How about His Son inheriting the Creation? How about His Son being given in marriage?

              Just Who do you think was doing the speaking in the Old Testament? If you heard The Father speak at all, you only heard Him twice. The Savior of all mankind was doing the speaking to Israel; from the top of the mount with Moses and later to us through the other Prophets.

            • LORD I AM

              Good god!
              It is WALTER, the SPAMMER SUPREME of BIN!
              Spreading his WALTER tainted christo-DRIBBLE near and far!
              BOY, are you smart, WALTER!
              :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
              WALTER is an expert in the in’s and out’s of the Greatest FABLE ever contrived by A GROUP OF WHITE-SKINNED MEN, the Book of Never Ending Insane Babbling Insanities!
              Ready to debate these very important questions, WALTER, the self appointed non-christian (that’s the ex-catholic in ya, beef) christian scripture expert?

              First Question is:
              Why does god have a dick?
              Second question is:
              Why is god such a tyrannical dick-tator?

              What is to be expected from a judeo-christo-CREEP who has lost completely the skill of critical thinking, WALTER (that be you, INSANE One).
              For WALTER believes with all his heart that a white-skinned mangod made the whole perverse Universe that WALTER knows NOTHING about!
              DISMISSED, Walter.
              The christo-DRIBBLE master, spewed out in MASS QUANTITIES of SPAM!
              And BIN let’s you do this, WALTER.
              You are either a LUNATIC, or a Paid employee of BIN.
              The later, for SURE, MAG DOG!

          • Mayhem

            Lets not start in with the distractions quite so readily because it looks like you’re panicking having had your error revealed. Now then what does H5158 – נַחַל – nachal – river, brook, valley, stream, flood have to do with this conversation? Did you mean H5157 – נָחַל – nachal – inherit, inheritance, possess, have, divide, heritage, possession?

            Now then, who are you to tell anyone which of the acceptable translations carries the most weight? The words we are arguing over have several meanings and “inheritance” is merely one of them.

            • goodbees

              I did not put 158 there, it was a copy paste from the definition on esword.
              I have already addressed everything else. Live in denial or seek the truth.

              Sorry, the word inheritance in any variation has the same meaning and it is not the same as creation.

              I would never call my work table that I made my inheritance.

            • Mayhem

              It’s very clear that you were cutting-n-pasting the first thing you could find on the subject and i was merely pointing out that you hadn’t thought things through or even checked the material for relevancy.

              Who said anything about Creation, other than you, with regards to Inheritance/Possesion? Stop with the silly distractions and try to stay on point or you’ll be taken for a fool.

              So then; is it that you have no Scriptural support for your position or is it that you’re too lazy to back yourself up?

            • goodbees

              “It’s very clear that you were cutting-n-pasting the first thing you could find on the subject and i was merely pointing out that you hadn’t thought things through or even checked the material for relevancy.

              Who said anything about Creation, other than you, with regards to Inheritance/Possesion? Stop with the silly distractions and try to stay on point or you’ll be taken for a fool.

              So then; is it that you have no Scriptural support for your position or is it that you’re too lazy to back yourself up?”

              The only thing that is clear is that I have the proofs to back up my assertions and all you have is dogma and irrelevant comments. I have made my case as solid as concrete as far as the bible goes.

              But like I said, you can’t be honest and intelligent and read the bible and remain a Christian. However you can be dishonest or unintelligent and read the bible and still remain a Christian as is being evidenced right now.

              I’ll let you have the last word because I know that is important to people like you.

            • Mayhem

              Your case included the possibility that “inheritance” could alternately mean “possession” which, once again, indicates that you didn’t bother taking the time to read what you cut-n-pasted.

          • goodbees

            Also, since when does god condone human sacrifice? The answer is since never. Why would God want to be worshiped? Is he an ego maniac? Sure, acknowledged, respected and revered but worshiped?

            Isn’t it odd that satan worshipers also perform blood sacrifice just as Yah commanded?

            Did you know that revalations says that jesus is going to nuke (or something similar) all nations that do not pay tribute to him?

            I guess it doesn’t matter it they are righteous or not as long as they have the cash, gold or silver right?

            Boy, that sounds alot like the nwo’s goals, one world government where all dissidents are annihilated.

            I could go on but I think I have made my point.

            • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

              “Also, since when does god condone human sacrifice? The answer is since never.”

              What is ‘human’ according to the Scriptures? Do you find that word in the ancient texts? What is ‘human’ according to you? What evidence do you point to which tells you human sacrifice is not condoned by God?

              “Why would God want to be worshiped? Is he an ego maniac? Sure, acknowledged, respected and revered but worshiped?”

              Why indeed? Do you think it’s for Him? Maybe it’s for us? Maybe WE need it for ourselves to worship Him because by doing so it forces us to place things into the correct order within ourselves. Maybe it is reverent focus upon Him which will serve as the foundation to correctly aligning our disordered beings with the one correctly aligned Being. It sounds like your pride prevents you from considering such possibilities because you hate the idea of revering anything but yourself.

              “Isn’t it odd that satan worshipers also perform blood sacrifice just as Yah commanded?”

              Might that be stolen reverence? Anytime you see a man or a woman praying to a foreign deity, you stand in witness of stolen reverence. That reverence belongs to the Most High alone. Satan is a thief. And what he can’t steal for himself, he makes men to squander on vanity.

              “Did you know that revalations says that jesus is going to nuke (or something similar) all nations that do not pay tribute to him?”

              You said you studied the Bible. Were you lying to us when you said that?

              “I could go on but I think I have made my point.”

              What exactly was your point? If you think you’ve clarified anything, you’re fooling yourself alone.

            • maxxy

              Walter. You said that worship of the Lord is not for Him, but for us…to help keep us “in-line”. The “Reverent focus” …..such a direct and effective phrase. Oorah! Walter. Line drive homer to center.
              Goodbees will fight this “simplicity” of thought….He obviously beholds himself as a ‘higher critic”. Complicating the story is how he justifies his own exegesis.

            • Mayhem

              I agree, maxxy, and i listen out for this criticism for the very reason that it quickly reveals who wears the shutters. Generally it’s only folk who can’t or won’t look at both sides of an argument who attempt to force God’s instructions to line up with our flawed perceptions.

            • maxxy

              I want to change a word in my last post….change ‘exegesis’ to ‘apostasy’.

        • goodbees

          You can do all of the mental gymnastics you like in order to justify your false beliefs but It is impossible for an honest and intelligent person to read the bible and remain a Christian.

          I am not lacking in consistency. In the beginning “God” the creators is the Elohim, plural. When Moses asks Yah who he is, Yah does not say I am Elohim or I am God or I am the creator. He never really says who he is.

          He took advantage of an enslaved people and made them his slaves. (some god) He made them kill many people for him. Why did he put that blood on their hands? Why didn’t he just do it himself?

          I am not going to look up any verses for you. If you do not know what Yah said to the Hebrews then you do not know enough to even comment on this topic.

          I have forgotten more about the so called word of god at this point in my life than you will ever know.

          The Hebrews made a deal (covenant) with Yah. Who do people make deals with to get what they want? I’ll give you a clue, it is not god. Yah is just another manifestation of Zues or Lucifer the deceiver of nations.

          By the way, how did that deal work out for the Hebrews?

          As far as Jesus speaking in the OT, you are just making that up because you cannot justify any of this based on scripture.

          • goodbees

            YHVH is NOT God! The bible clearly says that Israel was YHVH’s inheritance, and YHVH clearly says to the Israelites “I will be your god and you will be my people”. The first commandment is further evidence of this. “You shall have no other gods before me”. Notice it doesn’t say not to have other gods, it just says to put YHVH first.

            (on a side note the Quran says that Allah is an inheritor also so he is not God either)

            God/the Gods as I understand him is the divine source and therefore cannot inherit anything within the dimensions of this universe. God created all the dimensions of the universe and all of the life forms in it. So he certainly cannot be YHVH or Allah who must have either inherited their people and lands from God whom they belonged to or Satan who stole them.

            I started my adult life as a Christian and really started looking into the matter when I had children and wanted to find the right church denomination to attend since many of them were teaching blatant nonsense. (trinity and rapture for example)

            The more I dug , the deeper the hole got until I had to just throw out Christianity and the bible all together. That’s not to say that the bible is entirely false, I believe parts of the OT are true or at least based in truth, but it is certainly not a good source to learn about God/the Gods.

            So here is my conclusion: Satan and his followers decided to go against the divine source and instead of protecting and guarding the earth as was their job. They decided to enslave humankind and take for themselves whatever they wanted, earth women included. Using certain groups of people on earth as tools to accomplish this goal.

            All of the ancient god’s were either a manifestation of Satan or one of his followers. This is why we have the same evil “gods” over long time periods and in many different places just with different names. Zeus was a murderous rapist and so was YHVH if you believe the Christian story. Satan must have divided up the earth amongst his followers and this is why we have inheritor gods like YHVH and Allah although I must say at least the Muslims seem to practice what they preach.

            Only some of the Native Americans and other tribal type communities managed to follow the original teachings and avoid falling into the trappings of materialism that Satan gave to his slaves in the form of mechanical and technological advances and industry in general. All of these advances have culminated into nothing more than a means to observe, control and indoctrinate us. Some gift.

            This is why “civilization” (the material world) seems to have sprang up out of nowhere. The guardians deceived mankind into believing that they were the creators and that humankind was made to be the slaves of the gods (Sitchin was a freemason disinfo agent whose translations are completely unreliable). The bible is probably closer to the truth in that is does not say in the creation story that we were made to be slaves. Since they (the fallen ones or whatever you want to call them) have been here for a very long time, all of history is about them and the true God/Gods (the divine source) has been almost completely erased from history.

            Did you know that in the book of revelation it says that Jesus is going to rule the earth and nuke any nation that does not pay tribute (a nuke or something with similar affects)? This sounds more like the Satanic NWO than the prince of peace to me.

            Since humanity is a creation of the divine we are inherently trusting and moral. This made us easy to fool but not so easy to corrupt. It is only in this new modern age that the tools for our total corruption have been developed and deployed. Sure there has always been evil, immoral and spiritually corrupt people but in general the average men and women stuck to their families and their morals passed down from generation to generation by family members, not a state education system.

            We have the propaganda box (T.V.) that has been used to corrupt us as a whole for close to a century now and the plan is working splendidly. Each generation is corrupted just slightly more than the one before in a slippery slope, boiling frog type fashion. This is complimented by the other entertainment industries, music and movies mostly and is consolidated by the public indoctrination system i.e. public schools.

            I submit this quote as evidence that this is being done to us on purpose as opposed to a natural “progression” or “enlightnment”.

            “The Revolution won’t happen with guns, rather it will happen incrementally, year by year, generation by generation. We will gradually infiltrate their educational institutions and their political offices, transforming them slowly into Marxist entities as we move towards universal egalitarianism.”
            Horkheimer – Frankfurt school of Cultural Marxists.

            You may ask why does Lucifer want or need to corrupt us? Well I’m not sure but it seems that he is going to be held accountable for the enslavement of humanity at some point and wants us all to be nice and corrupted like a bunch of savage wild animals with our genitals hanging out, not so smart phones in hand and in full denial of our semi divine status. That way he can say, look they are no good anyways and they deserve to be treated this way, just like the animals that they are.

            What I do know for sure is that immorality is not liberation. It is enslavement to fleshly lust and material things and is the casting away of spiritual virtue and is also the cause of much pain throughout the world. In the past century so called civilized nations have turned from mostly good honest hard working people into lazy disease infested, depressed, psychopaths who care more about self gratification then they do the well-being of their own selves and children. This has greatly been enabled by the federal government of course.

            Destroying the natural family has damaged the minds and spirits of the children who inevitably become damaged adults who have very little choice but to continue the cycle since they themselves only now how to live as a broken child/adult.
            Promiscuousnes, homosexuality, selfishness, materialistic desires and immorality in general are symptoms of this and are also a cause of this, it is cyclical. Healthy loving adults breed healthy loving children who become healthy loving adults and continue the cycle. In one or two generations this cycle was almost completely broken and replaced with unhealthy, damaged adults producing unhealthy, damaged children and the cycle of pain now continues.

            God represents love and divine universal law. The two cannot be separated, for the law sustains love and love sustains the law. Satan broke that law and is pushing his transgressions onto humanity and almost no one is even putting up a fight anymore mostly because of the propaganda box and other indoctrination tools mentioned above. After all nobody wants to be unpopular right? The t.v. says that being popular is very important so it must be true. Conveniently enough the t.v. also decides for us what is popular and what is not.

            I am not here to cast stones as I have been a victim of this just as much as anyone else. A saint I am not.

            I understand I will not be making a lot of friends with this post and I also understand that this is a lot of speculation. Intuitive speculation seems to be all that we really have left though since most everything in this world has been twisted and corrupted beyond recognition by the very ones that some of you seem to believe have liberated us.

            This is the culmination of thought and study over time, I do not claim that this is all factual this is just the basic conclusion that I have drawn based on the limited knowledge and intelligence that I have.

            I should also add that I do not believe that God would ever want to be worshiped. Respected, acknowledged and revered definitely but not worshiped. That is the characteristic of a self obsessed ego maniac, (Zeus, YHVH, Satan) not the divine source of creation.

            The same goes for any kind of blood sacrifice, that is a trait of evil, not a trait of the great source of divinity or his righteous followers.

            • Mayhem

              Copied word for word from “Above Top Secret” or “Conspiracy Outpost” indicating that all you want is a platform from which to pontificate. You’ve addressed nothing despite your feeble protestations.

            • goodbees

              Yeah, I wrote that a while ago, so much for your theory about copying and pasting the first thing I could find huh. :razz:

            • Mayhem

              My comment about your copying and pasting, the first thing you could find, has nothing to do with the comment i’m addressing here.

              Oh and it wasn’t a theory insofar as it was patently obvious by your including material that had no relevancy to the discussion.

              Are you being intentionally obtuse? And by the way, saying…

              “I’ll let you have the last word because I know that is important to people like you.”

              … is your first sign of capitulation. One last thing: stop with the name calling, i’m no christian and nor should anyone be.

            • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

              “Did you know that in the book of revelation it says that Jesus is going to rule the earth and nuke any nation that does not pay tribute (a nuke or something with similar affects)? This sounds more like the Satanic NWO than the prince of peace to me.”

              This lie will be supported with a verse or passage from the Book or Revelation… …NEVER.

              “Since humanity is a creation of the divine we are inherently trusting and moral.”

              I’m sorry, would you mind repeating that?

              “Since humanity is a creation of the divine we are inherently trusting and moral.”

              (Just in case there was anyone left reading this who thought you might not have become completely dumped upside down within yourself.)

              “You may ask why does Lucifer want or need to corrupt us? Well I’m not sure…”

              You’re not sure because you don’t know the Scriptures. You never did.

              “…immorality is not liberation. It is enslavement to fleshly lust…”

              What you mean to say here is that the COUNTERFEIT version of immortality which Satan is peddling, is enslavement. You need to be more specific. Did Satan make a promise of immortality? Yes he did. But Satan’s promises are based on the genuine promises from on High. Everything Satan does is a counterfeit of the Genuine.

              “…the law sustains love and love sustains the law…”

              While that may sound good to our natural ear, what does the Word have to say?…

              Thus sayeth THE WORD:

              Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments HANG all the law and the prophets.

              Now, the argument can certainly be made that love sustains the Law. Where is the part about the Law sustaining love? It’s not there. That’s because it isn’t true. The purpose of the Law is elsewise stated throughout the Book you know so well, but seem to have forgotten almost entirely.

              “Intuitive speculation seems to be all that we really have left though since most everything in this world has been twisted and corrupted beyond recognition by the very ones that some of you seem to believe have liberated us.”

              Why did King David meditate on the Law, and rejoice to do so? For this very reason. The Law serves as an Instructor to we the feeble students. You have given up on the one source for uncontaminated knowledge in lieu of intuitive speculation. You have embraced the main tenet of Luciferianism – which is to seek WITHIN for answers… to KNOW THYSELF. Look to yourself for answers and you have found a fool for a teacher. The Instructions to us from our Creator are not to ‘know thyself.’ What are the Instructions? Can you even say? Did you ever know?

            • Mayhem

              “Since humanity is a creation of the divine we are inherently trusting and moral.” – Goodbees

              WALTER has covered this more than adequately but ya’ll know me. I’ve got an opinion on nearly everything and i’m unafraid to take a position. For the little it’s worth here are my thoughts on this age old conundrum.

              It seems clear that we are born inherently trusting however i’m not at all certain the same applies to morals. Are we born knowing right from wrong? I don’t think so, rather, we are born equipped with the necessary tools, like the ability to reason, in order to develop a healthy set of morals.

              These morals are learned and supposed to be given, in line with the teachings, to each of us but we’re making a hash of the job which is evident by what can be seen in the world, throughout our time.

              Some folk don’t want to believe in what is written, that we should know, and that’s okay but are they loving and being loved in return? If not then that’s not okay, in any realm. I hope everyone can see that Goodbee’s statement, as i’ve quoted, screams “Look Within” or “Do as thou wilt” whereas The Word says “ask and it shall be given to you” for “all scripture is God-breathed and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,”.

              If you seek Him don’t expect Him to just be there, seek Him. “seek” a verb or action word. Oh my goodness, who’s pontificating now? But one last thing; has anyone, believer or not, anyone ever seen any of the handful of literalist-apologists, that hang around in BIN’s, ever say anything quite so arrogant as “I’ve forgotten more about the Bible than you’ll ever know”? I’m not pleading for sympathy, oh no i’m not, i’m merely insisting that these things are considered.

          • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

            “You can do all of the mental gymnastics you like in order to justify your false beliefs but It is impossible for an honest and intelligent person to read the bible and remain a Christian.”

            This is a preposterous claim on its face. Only vicious and vainglorious entities ride into that Book and leave it with the bitterness you have flowing though you. Some of the best and most honest men and women in this world call themselves Christian. By best I mean honest. Bible belief DEMANDS honesty.

            “I am not lacking in consistency. In the beginning “God” the creators is the Elohim, plural. When Moses asks Yah who he is, Yah does not say I am Elohim or I am God or I am the creator. He never really says who he is.”

            When He says: “I will be your GOD”, are you suggesting some other Hebrew word stands in lieu of ELOHIM? You are being inconsistent. You are being inconsistent because you do not know the Scriptures. You never did.

            “He took advantage of an enslaved people and made them his slaves.”

            He liberated an enslaved people and showed them the Way to Freedom.

            “He made them kill many people for him.”

            Typical of an unbalanced Bible-hater to level this accusation. Physical abominations had to be destroyed in order to cleanse the land. Half-human hybrid races, corrupted by Satan, were nearly exterminated by the order of the Almighty. If you have a problem with that, perhaps you should take it up with Him. Elsewhere, the Philistines were slaughtered by David’s army because the Philistines were an intolerably aggressive tribe which responded well only to violence.

            “Why did he put that blood on their hands? Why didn’t he just do it himself?”

            He did do it Himself. My hands are His hands. Your hands are His hands.

            “I am not going to look up any verses for you.”

            That’s because you can’t.

            “If you do not know what Yah said to the Hebrews then you do not know enough to even comment on this topic.”

            Spoken like a coward.

            “I have forgotten more about the so called word of god at this point in my life than you will ever know.”

            Spoken like an arrogant braggart.

            “The Hebrews made a deal (covenant) with Yah. Who do people make deals with to get what they want? I’ll give you a clue, it is not god. Yah is just another manifestation of Zues or Lucifer the deceiver of nations.”

            A covenant is a two-way street, friend. It is a binding legal contract between two parties. As such, both parties are obligated to perform the agreed to deeds and acts. If one party violates those terms, then the contract stands nullified.

            “By the way, how did that deal work out for the Hebrews?”

            Poorly. But who do you blame for that fact? You blame the Most High. Why not place the blame where it belongs, with the party who violated the Contract… the Hebrews themselves. But you are in the habit of INVERTING things, aren’t you. Who is it you take after?

            “As far as Jesus speaking in the OT, you are just making that up because you cannot justify any of this based on scripture.”

            I cannot imagine how you think THE FATHER would marry Israel, and then later on in this age HIS SON will marry Israel. That would beget an abominable confusion. Moreover, it is behavior which is expressly forbidden in the very Law with which you claim to be so well acquainted. Or is that one of the facts about Scripture you forgot.

            • goodbees

              Ok, I can see that you guys don’t even believe what you are saying. The way you intentionally misrepresent things tells me that you are either dishonest by nature or are just shilling.

              Any ways I don’t post this stuff for the zealots, liars and fools, but for honest people who are legitimately seeking the truth and have fallen into or were born into the trappings of religion.

              You have both capitulated by having nothing but conjecture to offer up against my biblical evidence.

              Your debate tactics are just the same as the leftists on other sites. In fact I bet that you both defend gay marriage or any other issue that someone is willing to pay you to promote.

              You are shills and frauds and you will answer to the real God/Gods soon enough.

            • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

              Shall I translate that for the board?

              It’s probably not necessary, but I’ll do it for the benefit of Goodbees, who just wrote:

              ‘I have arrived. I know the answers. I have found the answers by looking within myself and learning from the greatest of all possible teachers. My own soul has taught me these things, and you who dare to gainsay what I have to preach are nothing but noise.

              ‘Either you will yield to my glorious knowledge and allow me to disabuse you of all your stupid beliefs, or I will complain that you are fools who post lies about things you lack even the capacity to fathom. I would resist you with facts and evidence if I could conjure as much, but I can’t exactly quote myself now, can I? Or maybe I can.

              ‘You are both losers. I have defeated you handily in this short debate, and shown you for the shallow fluff you are in actual fact. Now that I have vanquished my opposition, I will take my leave to enjoy the rest of the day smoking my hookah and eating a pastrami on rye. I have much better things to do with my time than actually breaking a sweat answering any of your pointed questions. I didn’t come here to be questioned or to actually have to think. I came here only to profess my grand insight into the eternal. Only idiots reject what I have to offer. You would be wise to let me do your thinking for you. But you’re not wise. And you’re too stupid to know a good thing when you see it, so have a nice day. I’ll see myself out.’

              Heard it all before, Ghulsbee.

              As you were.

            • goodbees

              Shall I translate this for the board.

              I am a shill who believes that the readers of this website are so stupid that they believe that sarcasm and insults is that way to win a debate.

              Never mind the facts and evidence presented. What is important is who is the most immature and can come up with the best insults.

              Never mind the man behind the curtain, look over hear at my insults and sarcasm.

            • goodbees

              OK, it’s been fun but now I really must say good day to you.

            • Mayhem

              That’s the second time in as many hours that you’ve taken your leave, Goodbees’, and i want you to know the current record stands at five so you’ve still got a little room for maneuver. Mind the door.

              Seriously, Goodbees’, you’re only fooling yourself that anyone, reading this exchange, won’t have seen that the only translation you provided happened to also support my stance.

              WALTERS translation obviously got your emotions all bound up in a knot, but that aside, it was altogether accurate and funny as all get out to boot.

            • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

              “…sarcasm and insults is that way to win a debate.”

              That’s the only point you have made to effect. And I concede the point. I should do better to address these matters without guile and without reviling the opponent the way I have here reviled you. It’s no way to make a point and it’s no way to win concession. I know better, and yet I chose the abusive tactic because it was fun. I did this to satisfy myself and not for the benefit of my Savior. It was a mistake and I regret it. Perhaps next time…

              “Never mind the facts and evidence presented.”

              If you presented any facts or evidence Goodbees, I missed them entirely. Something tells me I’m not the only one. Perhaps you might consider that in review of the above. Have you really done as you say?

              “Never mind the man behind the curtain, look over hear at my insults and sarcasm.”

              Rather, I was drawing attention TO the man behind the curtain, and flaunting my own sarcastic wit: to my detriment, and to yours, and not in accord with anything my King would see me do.

              That error is mine.

              And I would enjoy the opportunity to explore this matter further with you if you ever feel so inclined. My apologies for the way I have treated you above.

            • Rev. Poohbah

              WALTER, you are nothing but a verbal christo-THUG!
              In every way!
              BOY, are you just full of yourself.
              YOU have a sarcastic wit?
              :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
              Also, WALTER, your writing SUCKS!
              BORING!
              And, stinky, too!
              :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    • KnowMoreThanYou

      I cannot wait until September 23 when the crickets start to sing in here on this post!! Ahhh Dates dates dates..

      • AllRoadsLead2NWO

        yeah- just like alex jonestein and his big insane y2k rant, they guy created the whole thing himself
        and sent thousands of his ‘listeners into a panic. Here is alex exposed and his y2k insanity.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHXdz4ApxOQ

    • Morg Fighter

      The four dials at the top of the meter from right to left.
      Pick the lower number pointed to on each dial:
      First two numbers: 5 + 7 = 12 = 1 + 2 = 3
      3 + next number 3 = 6
      6 + next number 9 = 15
      :grin:

    • Warren

      I don’t put any stock in this sort of thing, but in this case the Simpson’s writers have clearly presented their audience with a puzzle. If for no reason other than entertainment, it’s fun to try to decipher it.

      The “Minutes to Rapture” clock is intriguing. It presents us with four digits, “:”, and two digits. Looking at the film clip frame-by-frame, a series of twelve such numbers is presented, plus a final “0000:00″. It is unlikely that the two digits to the right of the colon are seconds since they have values exceeding 59. It is also interesting that the digits do not progress in strictly ascending values. They jump around.

      If we take the whole six digits to be minutes, and given a first airing date and time of 8:00 PM (EDT) on Sunday, October 12, 2014, then the numbers translate as follows:

      First aired Sun, 10/12/2014 08:00 PM
      9678:23 → Sun, 08/14/2016 10:23 PM
      9678:24 → Sun, 08/14/2016 10:24 PM
      9678:45 → Sun, 08/14/2016 10:45 PM
      9678:46 → Sun, 08/14/2016 10:46 PM
      9679:67 → Mon, 08/15/2016 12:47 AM
      9670:68 → Sun, 08/14/2016 09:48 AM
      9681:89 → Mon, 08/15/2016 04:29 AM
      9692:83 → Mon, 08/15/2016 10:43 PM
      9603:06 → Tue, 08/09/2016 05:06 PM
      9624:29 → Thu, 08/11/2016 04:29 AM
      9645:43 → Fri, 08/12/2016 03:43 PM
      9666:60 → Sun, 08/14/2016 03:00 AM
      0000:00

      • Warren

        Follow-up:
        Interpreting the “Minutes to Rapture” clock as (hours):(decimal minutes) yields the following translation. I like this one better than the first because it puts the events just a bit over one year from the airing of the show.

        First aired Sun, 10/12/2014 08:00 PM
        hours:decimal minutes
        9678:23 → Fri, 11/20/2015 02:13 AM
        9678:24 → Fri, 11/20/2015 02:14 AM
        9678:45 → Fri, 11/20/2015 02:27 AM
        9678:46 → Fri, 11/20/2015 02:27 AM
        9679:67 → Fri, 11/20/2015 03:40 AM
        9670:68 → Thu, 11/19/2015 06:40 PM
        9681:89 → Fri, 11/20/2015 05:53 AM
        9692:83 → Fri, 11/20/2015 04:49 PM
        9603:06 → Mon, 11/16/2015 11:03 PM
        9624:29 → Tue, 11/17/2015 08:17 PM
        9645:43 → Wed, 11/18/2015 05:25 PM
        9666:60 → Thu, 11/19/2015 02:36 PM
        0000:00

        • Warren

          The more I think about it the more I like the second solution. It is just one year plus one month ahead of events. All the dates are within five days of each other. And it hangs together from the imaginary Flanders character’s perspective.

          The big item of curiosity is, in my mind, why there are twelve different time/dates, some differing in only minutes, and all within five days of each other? And why are they not in some chronological order?

          My guess is that there is not a consensus solution among those who posed the puzzle. The order is according to agreement on the derivation. I read the solution as “somewhere between Monday November 16 and Friday November 20, more probably the later date.”

    • rex peterson

      If you read 2 Thes. 2, Paul talks of being gathered together with Jesus, but first some events have to take place, as you read further. These would not be in the Bible if they were false. The only falsehood is spoken by the unsaved scoffers and skeptics. There seem to be a lot of them commenting here. If you are not saved, you don’t really have anything to say worth reading. Rex

      • goodbees

        Paul never knew jesus or the disciples, yet for some reason Christians (Paulians) disregard everything that Yahwey, Jesus, Moses and all of the prophets said in favor of what Paul the ROMAN said.

        Hmmmm, lets see. Yah said that usury is a sin. It’s a good thing that Paul came along and corrected that so that the whole world can get raped by usurious khazarian banksters.

        • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

          “Paul never knew jesus or the disciples…”

          Never knew the Disciples? Before his conversion, Paul made it his mission to pursue and incarcerate the Disciples. How is it you say he never knew them? After his conversion he lived and worked with the Disciples and the Apostles. Never knew Jesus? Paul received many years of private lessons with Jesus. Yet you claim otherwise. Who backs your claim?

          “…for some reason Christians (Paulians) disregard everything that Yahwey, Jesus, Moses and all of the prophets said in favor of what Paul the ROMAN said.”

          Let’s keep this simple. Show me one example of something Paul wrote which contradicts either the Law, the Prophets or the Gospel. One example.

          “Hmmmm, lets see. Yah said that usury is a sin. It’s a good thing that Paul came along and corrected that so that the whole world can get raped by usurious khazarian banksters.”

          It might help if you provided some specifics in support of this haphazard indictment of yours. You’re a little long on accusation and little short on substance.

          • Anonymous

            But, your avatar comes from “Flight.”

            It’s an implicit admission that you’re selling us false alternatives, as between cocaine and alcohol.

          • Scanner Darko

            Pardon, Anonymous?

            The avatar is from The Big Lebowski, not Flight, and I don’t see any sane explanation for twisting either option in to some kind of implicit admission for anything other than a particular taste in film.

        • Mayhem

          If you would be so kind, goodbees, as to provide chapter and verse where Paul can be seen expounding on the virtue of usury i will take the time to show where, when and why catholicism distorted The Word to support their money grubbing ways.

          It is good that you have “come out” from under christianity yet the Bible remains true although its Truth is not completely and faithfully taught by any of the 4,000 odd flavours.

          Welcome to The Bin, where Scripture is studied in the original languages and where we’ve seen Paul haters by the score.

          • goodbees

            Paul said that the law was nailed to the cross along with Jesus. Nuff said.

            “Paul received many years of private lessons with Jesus” What book are you reading? You just make things up it seems.

            Is it ok to eat pork? Yes you say. Is it ok to drink blood? No you say. Both of these things are described in the law that Paul single handedly abolished. Jesus, Yah, moses and all of the prophets said to obey the law. Paul said forget the law. So which is it? Can we eat pork and drink blood or not. You can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to pick and choose.

            Even if it did mean possession when it says inheritance (which it does not) it makes very little difference, God does not need anyone’s permission to posses the earth or its inhabitants. Satan however does need our consent in order to lay claim to us. We are already in Gods possession. All of us including Satan.

            I suppose you also believe that God resides in the heavens? Wrong, God created the heavens so he must have originated from and reside somewhere else.

            I find it quite hypocritical that you make up whatever you want about the bible and it’s characters and provide no evidence to back it up yet you accuse me of being short on substance after I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt using the bible itself that Yah is not and can not be the one true God or creator or even one of the creators because one cannot inherit their own creation. And if he did not create it he is not the one being mentioned “in the beginning”.

            Instead of refuting the claims I made you instantly attacked me and my character and began to twist my words in order to fit your false narrative. These are common shill tactics and anyone with any experience whatsoever on these forums will immediately see right though you.

            It is quite clear that you are not trying to convince me of anything, but rather to fool the less knowledgeable readers who may also suffer from confirmation bias and will never look into these things for themselves, they will just believe you because you are on the side of “truth” and I must be of the devil because I am a non believer.

            We all know that the khazars in Palestine who are pretending to be Jews need the support of the Christians whom they despise in order to get away with the genocide of the Natives.

            I suspect that is who you work for right? If you do really know anything about the bible you sure don’t show it. You use distractions and twisted interpretations of my words in order to fit your narrative and state things in an incredibly convoluted way all the while accusing me of complicating things.

            Again I will let you have the last word because I know it is important for people like you.

            Welcome to BIN where the shills make **** up in order to keep the fools fooled.

            • CAPTAIN CHAOS!!

              Why have you posted a response to my commentary beneath Mayhem’s words? Do you intend confusion, or do you simply produce confusion by accident? To work. You wrote:

              “Paul said that the law was nailed to the cross along with Jesus. Nuff said.”

              That’s a lie, Goodbees. Paul NEVER said that. You just put words into the mouth of the Apostle. We all know what Paul said. According to YOU, the bill left owing by Israel for breaking Law is the same as the Law itself. I challenge you to put up a verse wherein Paul says what you just falsely accused him of saying.

              First you quote me:

              “Paul received many years of private lessons with Jesus”

              Then you respond:

              “What book are you reading? You just make things up it seems.”

              Let’s see whether this helps you at all:

              (Following excerpt from http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2007/09-04.html)

              Paul stated, “But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ” (Galatians 1:11-12). Later he offers evidence by pointing out that he didn’t meet with anyone to learn the gospel. “But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus” (Galatians 1:15-17). His only meeting with another apostle didn’t occur until three years after his conversion and that meeting wasn’t long enough to teach him everything he now knew. “Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days. But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord’s brother. (Now concerning the things which I write to you, indeed, before God, I do not lie.) Afterward I went into the regions of Syria and Cilicia. And I was unknown by face to the churches of Judea which were in Christ” (Galatians 1:18-23). He didn’t go to the Judea area again for another fourteen years (Galatians 2:1).

              The point is that Paul stated he learned the gospel directly from Jesus Christ. He proved this by pointing out that he never was with the other apostles long enough to have been taught by them. This is a part of Paul’s claim to being an apostle — he was a direct witness to Jesus’ resurrection and Jesus’ teachings.

              (End excerpt.)

              Now, in perfect keeping with your penchant for putting words in people’s mouths, you write:

              “Is it ok to eat pork? Yes you say.”

              Another lie. No, Goodbees, I do not say it is okay to eat pork. You’re not addressing a Christian when you address me. And I’ll thank you to NEVER speak for me again, unless you wish to be shown a liar continuously. Pay attention to what is happening here.

              “…these things are described in the law that Paul single handedly abolished…”

              Paul did NOTHNG of the kind. Nor did Paul have any such authority to do what you say. You accuse the man because you do not comprehend the man. You do not comprehend the man because you have failed to read what he wrote with ample care. Your witness is false.

              “Paul said forget the law.”

              Get busy entering your evidence into the record. And before you do, you had better read the passages more carefully than you ever have. Paul said nothing of the kind. Your witness is false.

              “You can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to pick and choose.”

              You are reckless in your presumption. That’s why you’re a danger to yourself, and why you have failed so miserably to divide the word of truth. Your predicament is entirely your own fault.

              “Satan however does need our consent in order to lay claim to us.”

              False. We are Satan’s according to our birth. He owns us when we are born, as we are born in sin and born into sin. ONLY the born again can escape from the legitimate claim to our beings held by the god of this world. Seems you forgot that part too. Did you ever know it? Faith and Grace are what frees us from Satan, and nothing else.

              “We are already in Gods possession.”

              Why then was the Messiah sent to redeem us?

              “I suppose you also believe that God resides in the heavens?”

              Do I not believe what the Scripture says? Scripture says the Most High lives outside of and above even the highest of the Heavens. Still pretending to speak for others? You’re doing a fantastically terrible job. So far, you’re batting average is a perfect ZERO.

              “I suppose you also believe that God resides in the heavens?”

              Show me one example of where I have done what you say. Get busy with the specifics. Quote me, and then compare and contrast with a verse or passage. Do that now, or stand there beneath the pall of false witness. You are seen clearly for what you are.

              “I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt using the bible itself that Yah is not and can not be the one true God or creator or even one of the creators…”

              Did you prove something beyond a shadow of a doubt? When? To whom? More false witness.

              So say you:

              “…if he did not create it he is not the one being mentioned “in the beginning”.”

              So says the WORD:

              All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.

              Your witness is false.

              “…you instantly attacked me and my character and began to twist my words…”

              I did attack your character. I also apologized for doing so, right here on this very board. If I ever twisted your words, you will have to show the QUOTE wherein I did so. Cut-and-past the very offence and bring it out for all to see. Otherwise, your witness is false.

              “I suspect that is who you work for right?” (i.e., those who say they are Jews but are not and do lie…)

              More false witness. Where have I ever been an apologist for the impostors living in Palestine? Your ZERO average remains intact.

              “Again I will let you have the last word because I know it is important for people like you.”

              How many times will you be kind enough to ALLOW us this last word? What is this now, the third time? Yet another lie. You are known.

              “Welcome to BIN where the shills make **** up in order to keep the fools fooled.”

              The last refuge of a liar. Any time you wish to provide evidence supportive of your accusations, you know where to do it. Your allegations are hollow. Your charges are false. Your witness is not true.

            • LORD I AM

              Why the HELL does BIN have NO LIMIT on the number of words in one Comment?
              SEE SPAM SUPREME here, the christo-FREAK, BIN???
              DOES HE WORK FOR YOU?
              If not, why do you allow his dribble in mass quantities all over every post?
              :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

            • Mayhem

              BIN doesn’t need to limit posts given your self governed editing function technically known as – “Not reading stuff that doesn’t interest you”.

              Sheesh; the things we, still, have to explain to adults in this day and age.

    • RationalSkeptic

      And then nothing will happen on September 22-23-24 and christian crazies invent another day for rapture, perhaps in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022…………………., 2122 etc.

      • Mayhem

        Christians well might, RationalSkeptic, but no believer, from without the church, should long argue for the rapture because no such thing is taught, from the Bible, in relation to a pre-trib event.

    • Gayle Wynd

      What a mess religion makes, huh.

      • maxxy

        ….Yeah, its a mess alright….I thank the Lord, in Jesus’ name, several times a day for the clarity, the reality of my faith, has given me, in my life. You’ve got a serious problem…I hope the signs will become visible to you, soon.

    • Anonymous

      There are a couple of ways that devil worshippers look at this issue:
      – Hundreds and thousands of shrill warnings of imminent doom
      – A teeny, little Surgeon General’s warning, in small print, which says that collective focus results in a manifestation, as in the occult law of magnetic attraction. Name-it-and-claim-it prosperity teaching.

      What makes the Hegelians such “good” sportsmen is placing lightness and darkness before you, and letting you do it to yourself.

      As a Christian, I believe that we are tripartate beings, made in the image of a Living God — a body, mind, and spirit.

      I believe in the reality of the power of will, and many heathen have an adequate understanding of the science of the mind.

      Christians, the other side has power to effect change.

      But, first came predestination.

    • David

      Jesus said He would return the SAME way He left 2000 years ago….Acts 1:8-11………..He also said no one knows when…..HOWEVER…He did say to be aware of the signs that His return near……as the Fig Tree sprout leaves you know summer is near. Fig Tree in the Old Testament is Jacob…Israel…..May 14, 1948 the “leaves” sprouted.

      So when? watch the signs for when it is near…maybe Rapture IS the Second Coming…..it is irrelavant…..the thing we need to be aware of and BEWARE of is the entities revealed in Ephesians 6:12 are pulling out ALL the stops because THEY KNOW their time is short so they spread illusion and confusion to fool the church. We all better pray for clarity and keep focused on the Cross of Jesus…….

    • Deputy Dawg

      I’ll say it once again for those with a real thick head. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE RAPTURE. It is malarkey, BS, a horrible lie! Those of you who continue to forward this dishonesty stand in opposition to God Yahweh. You may with to rethink your position. What you’re advocating is false doctrine. It originated with the harlot. If you’ve read the Bible then the consequences of idolatry and misleading others are not foreign to you.

      I believe the confusion began because of where scripture speaks about the 144,000 or the tried and true being resurrected at the very instant of Jesus Christ’s return. Scripture says further that as Jesus rides in on the clouds into universal display. It says the first-fruits rise from their graves, their spirit bodies ascend to meet Jesus in the heavens. This passage is not referring to Heaven where God resides, but rather the sky where clouds form.

      Those relying on the physical assimilation instead of spiritual understanding are convinced that everyone has an eternal soul, that they will either going to ascend to heaven or descend into everlasting torture after their passing. It is often referred to as “the after life.” There is one major problem with this thinking it is a huge lie.

      The truth is our minds, personalities, experiences or the essence who we are is held by God in the similar fashion to how a flash drive holds computer data. When it is removed from the computer the flash drive is unusable or dead until it is re-powered. After we die, until we are resurrected our flash drive stays locked away with God Almighty for safe keeping. Think about it logically. If man actually had an “eternal soul” then why would he need God to resurrect him? Wouldn’t our souls exist on whether we went to Heaven, Hell, Purgatory or where ever? See where I’m going with this?

      The tripping point I believe is that the first-fruits are given a spiritual body upon their resurrection, where during the second resurrection that occurs after the Millennial Rein those risen involving the mass will receive revitalized physical bodies. After a short period they will stand before the Great White Throne to be judged. They will be given one final opportunity to repent and accept God’s ways before paying the ransom of death for their sin. This is what scripture calls the “second death.” This is the eternal punishment, death without hope of future resurrection. Your existence is kaput, done, finished and over with and the fat lady has sung.

      Accepting false doctrine is not without consequence. Matthew 5:20 “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

      Just-My-Opinion

      • AllRoadsLead2NWO

        John said it would happen in HIS LIFETIME. But the voted for money book of stories reads like this and it applies to only 144 000 Jews ONLY- JESUS WAS A JEW AFTER ALL JUST LIKE ALL OF THE DISCIPLES- AND MOSES AND THE GOD OF ISRAEL NAMED “I AM”,”JEALOUS” ETC.:
        Read Revelation:
        7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed
        an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
        Then it tells you how many from each TRIBE:
        7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
        7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
        7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
        7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

        BUT WHAT IS EVEN FUNNIER IS THAT THE BOOK OR STORIES CANNOT DECIDE HOW MANY TRIBES THERE ARE! BEHOLD-

        http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/tribes.html

      • Crazy times

        Just-my-onion…………”for those with a real thick head”

        God Judges justly..Genesis 18:25.. 25″Far be it from You to do such a thing, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous and the wicked are treated alike. Far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth deal justly?”

        HE has shown and given US examples EVEN to ALL THE REAL THICK HEADS that WILL NOT accept from… GODS WORD…“as it is written”

        Luke 21:36
        Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to ESCAPE ALL these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

        Revelation 3:10King James Version (KJV)

        10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience,… I also will keep thee FROM the hour of TEMPTATION, which shall come upon all the world,…TO TRY THEM that dwell upon the earth.

        (as now opposed to those LIVING IN HEAVEN… after this judgement.)

        Because you have kept (MY WORD) ( The Word was God ) THE WORD of MY Patience …ie Kept the full Word of GOD…perseverance (about His Imminence return),…..MY PATIENCE.

        definition of: Patience

        1- an ability or willingness to suppress restlessness or annoyance when confronted with DELAY.

        2-The capacity, quality, or fact of being patient:

        3-. quiet, steady perseverance;when confronted with DELAY

        2 peters 2 v9 “the Lord knows how to RESCUE (the righteous) the godly from TEMPTATION” (aka…the BRIDE) and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment,

        temptation in the Bible:

        (1.) Trial; a being put to the test.
        (2 )the act of tempting; enticement or allurement….

        “You Clearly REJECT GODS WORD” which refers to Gods Precepts and Ordinances regarding RESCUE and His references to the RAPTURE/ RESCUE… and His examples SHOWN to us about… Noah and Lot.

        The Parable of the Ten Virgins Clearly shows a RESCUE of the BRIDE.

        As you ALSO deny the Deity of Y’shua and his His claim to be God in the flesh …

        These following verses are wrote for YOU, the thick heads in the last church age, who deny Y’shua is LORD, God Almighty.and are Blind to His Glory…and the amazing thing is ,you do not KNOW IT.

        Rev 3:17…”I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked

        Revelation 3:18 (KJV) I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich ; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed , and that the SHAME of THY NAKEDNESS do not appear….(This Happens when WE Disappear) @ the rescue.

        In context, when Y’shua comes as a thief (YOU will NOT KNOW the day or the Hr) and when HE’S Gone and TAKEN HIS Bride and closed the door (the parable of the 10 Virgins )…THEN the SHAME of YOUR nakedness WILL APPEAR …..as the Son came and you ARE left behind…How embarrassing will that be, for many a Naysayer……as it is written.

        By taking away from this book it will be taken away from you…

        This is NOT my Opinion ………..it’s… :arrow: “as it is written”…..see the difference.

        Deny what you like your Onion does not count !!!

        • Deputy Dawg

          “I am what you say I am.” I have never claimed to be anything but what I am. I am a human being far from perfection. I think it is awful telling that you’ve decided to focus more on my character deficiencies rather than to speak specifically about the truth I shared. You obviously hold me to an unachievable standard hoping to discredit what I’ve written. You’ve imposed a hypocritical standard that you certainly can not possibly meet yourself.

          Let me remind your highness that not even God’s prophets have been perfect or sin free. I’ll admit the term “think heads” was probably not the most appropriate as it provokes resentment nevertheless what I suggested was my observation not a judgement. Do you understand the difference? I believe you know the difference, but was groping in the darkness for the knife to castrate and hastily selected the wrong weapon.

          Romans 7:21 “I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

          I do understand how difficult it can be to accept that what you believe is not in cooperation with God. This reality frustrates and incites. Pride kicks in and here we are! I’m sorry you disagree bro. I may have been overly harsh in my description of those practicing false doctrine, and I apologize for that, but the message itself was not based on my opinion, it is God’s Truth, deal with it, or don’t, your choice!

          JMO

          • Crazy times

            Just my opinion

            ALL that you write is Just your opinion, you even sign off with JMO and that’s ALL IT REALLY IS …just your opinion.

            The problem is you are not using ANY Scripture of relevance to back up your erroneous contentions, that those who believe in the rapture are wrong, if they are, provide scripture, some scripture, in context and make your stand.

            Those of us who believe in a rapture and have given scripture to back it up. It CANNOT be outside the cooperation of Gods Word, it doesn’t frustrate me at all, as I know what I’m talking about and have scripture for ALL of it.

            If you say you have proof there is no rapture, Prove It, from the Word …Gods Truth as you call it .

            “I think it is awful telling that you’ve decided to focus more on my character deficiencies”

            If that’s what you think I did ??, deal with it ! ….as for the rapture you have been found to be without a pot to piss in.

            “rather than to speak specifically about the truth I shared”

            You DO NOT speak Truth.

            Anyone who does NOT believe that Y’shua came in the Flesh is a false teacher let alone a person who practices false doctrines.

            I’m glad we disagree bro as your belief is Antichrist and just your OWN opinion and NOT….. as it is written.

            Gods perceptions or your opinion…you’ve already made your choice !

    • JimmyBitch

      The cartoon on the fourth video down reminds me of a young Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    • kodster

      Not Rapture happening on 9/22/15 (actually, 9/23/15, since it’s the Hebrew lunar calendar that starts at sundown the night before), but the Great Tribulation, aka Jacob’s Trouble, aka Day of the Lord, aka God’s Wrath. Rapture happens 10 days prior, at Feast of Trumpets.

    • AllRoadsLead2NWO

      Most Judeo-Christians have never even read all the stories in the book
      voted to be the ‘word of god’ at the Council Of Nicacea held by the
      pagan Roman Emperor Constantine in 325 CE. He offered the various Church
      leaders money to agree upon a single canon that would be used by all Judeo- Christians
      as the word of God. The Church leaders gathered together
      at the Council of Nicaea and voted the “word of God” into existence.
      Now understand they know these stories scare you, and will use them
      to control you just like all of the stories that the Catholic Church
      has used to control you for 2,000 years. But if you the damn book in the
      first place you will know that a so called rapture or gathering (sealed) up only
      applies to 144,000 JEWS.
      Read Revelation:
      7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed
      an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
      Then it tells you how many from each TRIBE:
      7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
      7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
      7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
      7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

      If you are going to believe 2,000 year old stories written to control you
      the least you can do is READ THE DAMN BOOK. Now to quell any disagreement:

      “The number … sealed … were … an hundred and forty and four thousand of … the children of Israel.” 144,000 Jews will be going to heaven; everyone else is going to hell.

      Few Christians take the 144,000 number seriously, of course. But the Jehovah’s Witnesses do. Boy do they ever! They believe that there are two distinct classes of believers: the 144,000 “Anointed” that are going to heaven and the “Great Crowd” that will remain here on earth. The WatchTower teaches that heaven closed in 1935, and that everyone else will either be killed at Armageddon (if they are not JWs) or live forever on earth.

      • maxxy

        The whole world whores after the beast….Whole world, but for the ‘elect’……You know who you are.

        • AllRoadsLead2NWO

          The united states is already in the so called ‘beast’ system. Behold your stock # birth certificate number in which we are all sold on Wall Street as stock from the moment your parents “informed’ on your birth, and then you have another beast number called your social security number. Good luck buying. selling or trading in the ‘market place’ without them.

          https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+truth+about+your+birth+certificate

    • Ken

      Steve??? Is that you? I thought you were PreWrath?? NO??

      But then you are really quite changeable so………………..Maybe it will be lavender tomorrow.

    • MikeSavage

      John;
      The Annointed (with holy spirit) 144,000 are called the Bride of Christ. You are mistaken.

    • The Ferrett

      More jewish fables masquerading as Bible prophecy . .

    • charlie2dogs

      if a religious fanatic preaches doom and gloom, death and destruction for 2000 years it is surely to happen at some point, in fact they created it.

    • RoaringLamb58

      Being as God is the only one who really knows when and if that meteor is going to strike at or around this time, to set dates is ludicrous. How many times have we learned over the years by people setting dates as to when the rapture is going to happen have turned out to be wrong. And yet we keep doing this over and over again. So apparently we haven’t learned anything. So lets just sit back with our bags of popcorn and watch and see someone else be in the wrong once again. And learn nothing from it all once again and go back to setting our dates once again.

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