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Hair-Raising Revelation—Why the Tribulation Will Begin Soon! The Greatest Mystery Unfolds When You See What’s Really Going On….

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By Lisa Haven

 

Events are about to unfold and crisis’ of unprecedented proportions are coming. Things will happen suddenly and without warning. It will strike fear into the hearts of American citizens and sadly, many are ignoring the numerous warning signals.

 

If you are one of those who don’t believe the end of this age is near, then you are in for a real wake up call! We are the generation that will witness the times described by John the Revelator, in the book of Revelation. A time of unheard chaos and turmoil that causes men’s hearts to fail them for fear of things that are to coming upon the earth.

 

You can’t afford to miss this powerful message about whats ahead prophetically. It provides clear, concise evidence of Biblical end time prophecies and mysteries that God has prepared for such a time as this…

 

 

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, truce-breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good…” 2 Timothy 3:1-3 

 

 

Here is The Shocking Legislation Referenced in the Video That Will Rattle You to the Core… 

 

H.R. 2899 Countering Violent Extremism Act, that is the name of an unethical freedom ripping bill that has been introduced to congress by Representative Michael McCaul from Texas. This piece of legislation would literally grant the Department of Homeland Security more power to round-up American citizens who they deem as a threat and who are, in their opinion, becoming extremists. According to the Rightwing Extremism Document that would include Christians, Constitutionalists, New World Order believers, Preppers, Veterans, Tea Party members and gun owners. 

 

Here is the verbiage:  

H. R. 2899

 

To amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to authorize the Office for Countering Violent Extremism.


 
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
June 25, 2015

Mr. McCaul introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Homeland Security


 
A BILL

To amend the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to authorize the Office for Countering Violent Extremism.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the “Countering Violent Extremism Act of 2015” or the “CVE Act”.

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION OF THE OFFICE FOR COUNTERING VIOLENT EXTREMISM OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

(a) In General.—Title I of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 101 et seq.) is amended by adding at the end the following new section:

“SEC. 104. OFFICE FOR COUNTERING VIOLENT EXTREMISM.

“(a) Establishment.—There is in the Department an Office for Countering Violent Extremism. The head of the Office shall be the Assistant Secretary for Countering Violent Extremism, who shall be appointed by the Secretary. The Secretary shall also appoint a career Deputy Assistant Secretary for Countering Violent Extremism.

“(b) Assignment Of Personnel.—The Secretary shall assign or hire, as appropriate, permanent staff to the Office for Countering Violent Extremism. In carrying out this subsection, the Secretary shall, to the maximum extent practicable, seek to assign to or hire for the Office an individual who has a demonstrated background in technical matters, on and offline media, or marketing.

“(c) Support.—The Secretary shall appoint within each appropriate component and office of the Department, including at a minimum, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Office of Privacy, the National Protection and Programs Directorate, the Office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, and the Science and Technology Directorate, an individual to serve as liaison to the Office for Countering Violent Extremism.

“(d) Responsibilities.—The Assistant Secretary for Countering Violent Extremism shall be responsible for the following:

“(1) Coordinating the Department’s efforts to counter violent extremism across all the components and offices of the Department that conduct strategic and supportive efforts to counter violent extremism. Such efforts shall include the following:

“(A) Identifying risk factors that contribute to violent extremism in communities in the United States and potential remedies for Government and non-government institutions.

“(B) Identifying populations targeted by violent extremist propaganda, messaging, or recruitment.

“(C) Managing the outreach and engagement efforts of the Department directed toward communities at risk for radicalization and recruitment for violent extremist activities.

“(D) Ensuring relevant information, research, and products inform efforts to counter violent extremism.

“(E) Developing and maintaining a Department-wide strategy guiding policies and programs to counter violent extremism. Such strategy shall, at a minimum, address each of the following:

“(i) The Department’s counter-messaging program pursuant to paragraph (2), including a plan to leverage new and existing Internet and other technologies and social media platforms to counter violent extremism, as well as the best practices and lessons learned of other Federal, State, local, tribal, territorial, and foreign partners engaged in similar counter-messaging efforts.

“(ii) The Department’s countering violent extremism-related engagement efforts.

“(iii) The use of cooperative agreements with State, local, tribal, territorial, and other Federal departments and agencies responsible for efforts relating to countering violent extremism.

“(iv) Ensuring all activities related to countering violent extremism fully respect the privacy, civil rights, and civil liberties of all Americans.

 

“(F) Identifying and recommending new research and analysis requirements in coordination with the Under Secretary for Science and Technology and the Under Secretary for Intelligence and Analysis and ensure the dissemination of information and methods for Federal, State, local, tribal, and territorial countering violent extremism practitioners, officials, law enforcement, and non-governmental partners to utilize such research and analysis.

“(G) Assessing the methods used by violent extremists to disseminate propaganda and messaging to communities at risk for radicalization and recruitment.

 

“(2) Establishing a counter-messaging program to craft strategic counter-messages to the propaganda and messaging referred to in subparagraph (G) of paragraph (1) which shall—

“(A) explore ways to utilize relevant Internet and other technologies and social media platforms; and

“(B) maximize other resources available to the Department.

 

“(3) Serving as the primary representative of the Department in coordinating countering violent extremism efforts with other Federal departments and agencies and non-governmental organizations.

 

“(4) Serving as the primary Department-level representative in coordinating with the Department of State on international countering violent extremism issues.

 

“(5) In coordination with the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, providing guidance regarding the use of grants made to State, local, and tribal governments under sections 2003 and 2004 under the allowable uses guidelines related to countering violent extremism.

“(e) Memorandum Of Understanding.—The Assistant Secretary for Countering Violent Extremism shall enter into a memorandum of understanding with the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency outlining the roles of the Assistant Secretary and the Administrator with respect to the administration of grants under sections 2003 and 2004 related to countering violent extremism.

“(f) Annual Report.—The Assistant Secretary for Countering Violent Extremism shall submit to Congress an annual report for each of the next five fiscal years (beginning in the fiscal year that begins after the date of the enactment of this section) on the Office for Countering Violent Extremism. Each such report shall include the following:

“(1) A description of the status of the programs and policies of the Department for countering violent extremism in the United States, including the budget of the Department for countering violent extremism and the number of full-time employees dedicated to countering violent extremism programs, as well as the number of part-time employees supporting countering violent extremism programs. Each such budget shall include an accounting of all funding amounts for all departmental programs, initiatives, and personnel related to countering violent extremism.

“(2) A description of the efforts of the Office to cooperate with and provide assistance to other departments and agencies.

“(3) Qualitative and quantitative metrics for evaluating the success of such programs and policies and the steps taken to evaluate the success of such programs and policies.

“(4) A detailed summary of the organizations with which the Department conducted outreach to discuss countering violent extremism, an accounting of grants awarded by the Department to counter violent extremism, and an accounting of all training specifically aimed at countering violent extremism sponsored by the Department.

“(5) Details of the optimal level of personnel and funding for the Office.

“(g) Violent Extremism Defined.—In this section, the term ‘violent extremism’ means ideologically motivated terrorist activities.

“(h) Authorization Of Funding.—Out of funds made available to the Office of the Secretary, $10,000,000 is authorized for the Office for Countering Violent Extremism for each of fiscal years 2016 through 2020.”.

(b) Clerical Amendment.—The table of contents in section 1(b) of such Act is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 103 the following new item:

 

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For More Information See: 

HR2899- https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2899/text

Video: https://youtu.be/YmRrq0qTRXY

Satanic Statue in Detroit: http://time.com/3972713/detroit-satanic-statue-baphomet/

Coloring Book: http://wonkette.com/572482/satanic-temples-fun-coloring-book-ruins-bible-handout-day-in-florida

Righwing Extremism: http://fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

Obama Iran Deal: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/obama-deal-us-to-protect-iranian-nuclear-sites-from-israeli-attack/

http://unitedwithisrael.org/watch-kerry-indicates-us-will-defend-iran-from-israel/

Project Megiddo:  http://www.constitution.org/y2k/megiddo.pdf

Shoebat Persecution of Christians: http://shoebat.com/2015/07/27/hundreds-of-documents-have-been-seized-and-they-reveal-that-turkey-is-most-definitely-working-with-isis-in-killing-christians/

Covenant: /prophecy/2015/07/i-discovered-the-reason-why-the-blood-moons-are-here-obama-un-and-vatican-to-youll-be-amazed-and-shocked-2471206.html

Temple Institute: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Temple-Institute/22738684968?__mref=message_bubble

Cascadian Fault Overdue: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one

 



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    • Anonymous

      I am a Christian, come and get me if you dare………God is on my side.

      • MikeSavage

        If you are part of a religion, you cannot be Christian. You are part of Christendom. Religions CLAIMING to be Christian. Being Christian means ONLY following the scriptures and what we are commanded in them, by God and His son, Jesus, which includes “fleeing from religion”. You can worship God, or be part of religion. One CANNOT do both, according to God, and according to His son, Jesus the Messiah.

    • Nancy636

      The only violent Christians I have seen are the way Christians are portrayed in movies and such, that is why they portray them this way and they have been for many years. Brainwashing and it is working and they will see the fruits of their labor soon, then they will see the fruits of God’s wrath soon.

    • maxxy

      That’s a pretty fine sieve, written to strain out those that can’t or don’t want to worship the biblical beast….Its like they tried to match the scripture to the legislation in an inverted fashion.

    • Pink Slime

      Hello Angle#1,

      Charlie here. Wow, your hair is the best ever! I wish I could give you a doughnut Angle#1. Sorry, but the cigars are reserved for Charlie.

      Do you know anymore about the extremist that introduced that bull, er bill? It is my belief that all extremist should be removed from office starting with the foreign sodomite currently illegally in office. And any anyone who supports the Negro extremist and his extremist agenda should be labeled the same also.

      I do not know why this extremist is introducing this bill of which he will hang himself, but then again I never understood the left.

      Signed,

      Charlie (don’t these idiots realize the Constitution is filled with do-nots?) :lol:

    • ekolis

      Where does that bill say anything about rounding anyone up?

    • billR

      I hope you realize that ISIS is an acronym for Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. The Jews are not who you think they are. The jews in power in Israel are not God’s chosen people. They worship Lucifer (Satan).

      • NWO for Dummies.

        Truer words were never spoken.

        Lisa is their spokeman on here.

        What Jesus does she talk about? I thought there was only one……oooohhh, I get it1 :wink: :idea:

        So when the Jews welcome the antichrist Lisa will too?

        Wacko!

        “Isreal is the holy place mentioned in the book of Revelations” really. revelations doesn’t say that. Did you make it up??? ??? How does that square with this quote from Revelations which says Israel is NOT the Holy Place.

        Revelations. 11: 8
        ….And their dead bodies [the"two witnesses"] shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

        • maxxy

          …..Lisa has been racing toward radicalism…at warp speed. She’s immersed herself in this crazy diabolical environment, for too long…….
          …I’m all for hope and faith….I ‘hope’ you are ready in your heart, to meet your maker, and I have ‘faith’ that God’s will be done.
          …A place called “Sodom’ and ‘Egypt’…..could be a place dominated by homosexuality and Ba’al worship. Could be NYC. Hollywood’s not big enough.

          • Gus Fung

            maxxy quote: ‘A place called “Sodom’ and ‘Egypt’

            You notice Lisa’s new pic looks fabricated in the same manner as Lyn’s? What ya suppose is going on there Gravy? Green screen? Who would be financing a green screen for these moms? Who’s writing for them?

            I’m sure you can relate to Scooby Doo from the 70′s.
            Think “rubber mask”

      • MikeSavage

        That’s like the pot calling the kettle black.

    • bicycledays

      Hey Lisa, I like your videos. They are informative and interesting.

      I think you ought to know the truth about this link … http://shoebat.com/2015/07/27/hundreds-of-documents-have-been-seized-and-they-reveal-that-turkey-is-most-definitely-working-with-isis-in-killing-christians/

      http://shoebat.com is a jewish-zionist front organization set up to demonize muslims. You need to understand that the zionist jews are behind most of the terror attacks, and that they blame muslims for these terrorist attacks. ISIS = ISrael Intelligence Service or Israel Secret Intelligence Service. YouTube search “ISIS is Mossad Israel” and you’ll find numerous videos that prove this.

      Also, you need to understand that the jews are not God’s chosen people. Christians are God’s chosen people.

      I hope you will take this correction and research it for yourself, and not be blinded by the Zionists who have duped so many well-meaning Christians, including yourself.

      Research The Bible first and foremost.

      • Pink Slime

        Hello Lisa!

        • NM156

          SWEET

        • The Clucker

          “Hello Lisa!”

          I thought that too after reading that first sentence. She has no supporters here anymore because everyone has caught on so if someone does support her I automatically assume shill/her herself. It’s the only way she can make it look like she isn’t full of crap.

          ~Mightiest Clucker

          • Big dog.../small fish...

            Clucker, did you see, the twit disabled the comment section of his articles.

            • The Clucker

              Excellent. Hopefully he doesn’t comment on anyone else’s articles anymore either.

    • BornAgain

      If God is with us, who can be against us?

      Pity those who are sold out to the devil, Give your enemy food and water, this way you will pour coals upon his head!

    • Amminadab

      The tribulation already happened it was called the Dark Ages.

      • Truthseeker

        Amminadab

        by the time the 7 Seals of Revelation are completed over the 7 year time of the end — 90% of the 7 plus billion that dwell on earth today will have died from starvation, disease, war and the WRATH of GOD ALMIGHTY.

        The time just ahead is worse then any time the world has ever experienced or ever will again.

        • Amminadab

          Sorry wrong. The seals cover the periods of the church. All in the past. Same for the trumpets.

          http://www.lightministries.com/id10.htm

          • Amminadab

            The seals open the history of the church during the Christian age. The trumpets, covering about the same period of time, relate to the wars of certain nations. Thus God has definitely pointed out in these series of prophetic events way-marks from the first advent down to the second, to show pilgrim travelers where they are upon the great high-way of time, and when the journey of human probation will end. This is the grand object of the book, hence it is called “The Revelation of Jesus Christ.”

          • Truthseeker

            Well amminadab

            You have just “wished” away the Word of God, that is a very very bad mistake as you will soon find out.

            Jeremiah 30: 7

            7 “Alas! For that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even The Time of Jacob’s Trouble: but he shall be saved out of it.”

            Ezekiel 4: 9

            9 “And I will do in thee — that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations.

            Daniel 12: 1

            1 “And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.”

            Matthew 24: 21

            21 “ For then shall be great tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”

            Please point out to me when this time of trouble that is so great there has never been a time like it and never will be again?

            And as Daniel states the Saints will be delivered at that time.

            You really think all of this had occurred?

      • MikeSavage

        Amminadab;
        The first tribulation did already happen, it was the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 607B.C.E. The final tribulation is about to begin. We are in the very end of the end times. We are witnessing the ramping up of the destruction of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, the largest part being Christendom. Not Christianity, as no Christian is part of a religion of man. True Christianity is ONLY what the scriptures teach, with no interpretations or other guessing. Interpreting is guessing. The scriptures stand on their own. No mysteries involved.

    • Crazy times

      Hey Lisa, I make a lot of mistakes, as it’s Human to Err, don’t take this wrong way but

      You did a funny :lol:

      “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, truce-breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good…” 2 Timothy 3:1-3

      :arrow: incontinent ??

      I know they changed the rules about urinating in the Streets a practice now permitted in New York was this the reason WHY ?

      definition of incontinent

      “unable to restrain natural discharges or evacuations of urine or feces.”

      Whoops :lol:

      • Crazy times

        Obviously a wrong translation sounds much better in the ASV :wink:

      • NWO for Dummies.

        Its in the KJV and it means lack of self control~much like an incontinent person but wilfully. :wink:

    • MikeSavage

      Lisa;
      THERE IS NO RAPTURE! Try studying the scriptures, and forget what any religion told you. The religions all lie, the scriptures don’t.

      • Crazy times

        Yeah’ All believe the Bible trashers .. :arrow: who updated the Scriptures in 2013

        on WHO’s authority I don’t know ? :roll:

        • MikeSavage

          Authority? Updated the scriptures? Crazy Times, you truly are a moron. The scriptures weren’t “updated”. The translation was put into more plain and modern English, and several hundred other languages. Since you haven’t any idea what that entails or means, you haven’t any honest right to criticise those who make it easier to understand God’s inspired word. You, however, will NEVER understand a word of it. You haven’t the humility or the honesty in your heart to do so. At least that’s what you constantly display with your snide and rude and uninformed comments. You reject God and so therefore feel it necessary to disparage anyone who doesn’t do as you do. All you are doing is fulfilling prophecy. You are doing to God’s people what they did to Jesus two thousand years ago. Nothing more. Nothing new with you. Same old anti-God and anti-Jesus Satan worshiping loud mouth.

          If you actually had any tiny bit of honesty in your heart, you would actually read the NWT and compare it. But you’re not honest. That would also take way too much effort on your part. You’re lazy also. Your beliefs about everything come from others’ efforts. It never is the result of your own hard studious research. You don’t take in accurate information daily about God and His son, as we are commanded to. Since you wouldn’t possibly EVER lower yourself to do that, you think that anyone who does must be less than you. Remember, James 4:6 However, the undeserved kindness that He gives is greater. So it says: “God opposes the haughty ones, but he gives undeserved kindness to the humble ones.”

          • Amminadab

            Recognizing the importance of the Bible’s message, we have undertaken the revision of this text with a profound respect for the content of the Bible. We feel the full weight of our responsibility to convey its message accurately. This revised edition has built on the fine foundation laid in previous editions of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, a Bible that was first released more than 60 years ago. However, the English language has changed during the past half century. Such change prompted current members of the New World Bible Translation Committee to initiate this comprehensive revision. Our goal has been to produce a translation that is not only faithful to the original texts but also clear and easy to read. The Appendix articles “Principles of Bible Translation,” “Features of This Revision,” and “How the Bible Came to Us” discuss some of the linguistic refinements that were made in this edition.

            Those who love Jehovah God and worship him desire an accurate, understandable translation of God’s Word. (1 Timothy 2:4) To that end, we have made this revision available in English, with the intention of translating it into as many languages as possible. It is our hope and prayer that you, dear reader, will find this edition of the Holy Scriptures beneficial as you endeavor to “seek God . . . and really find him.”—Acts 17:27.

            New World Bible Translation Committee

            August 2013

            • Crazy times

              “” The scriptures weren’t “updated”.”"

              “New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, a Bible that was FIRST released more than 60 years ago”

              Tks revsky So you can find Truth when you look for it, :wink:

              So clearly Mr Savage here we have your Bible ONLY 60 yrs Old and now you’ve UPDATED the things that show your SHORT COMINGS, So as to send you further down :arrow: the Highway to Hell…

              The dodgy reason… “the English language has changed during the past half century. Such change prompted current members of the New World Bible Translation Committee to initiate this comprehensive revision.”

              The English language has NOT changed that much in 50 yrs,this is a Phoney reason,so as the Bible Trashers can get to work trying to cover up all their embarrassing Epic contradictory verses found in their own.. NWT . :evil:

              Oh’ and 1 more thing before I go …I must be honest as i did compare your NWT to the KJV in my last post

              …guess what ! I found ?

              :arrow: YOUR the one who’s dishonest..lol

              “If you actually had any tiny bit of honesty in your heart, you would actually read the NWT and compare it”

              Your welcome to your Kingdom Hell of Fake Witnesses.

            • MikeSavage

              No short comings Crazy Times. You really need to keep quiet. The only thing you ever post is vitriole and lies, as in your last post about God’s named people. His Earthly organization. The SAME organization that Jesus began the night before his death. They reviled Jesus then, and you call him many bad things now. You revile his disciples, and what they teach. That’s okay, you have lots of company, including Judas Iscariot and Satan. It’s people such as yourself who would be first in line to kill Jesus, were he here today.

          • Crazy times

            “The translation was put into more plain and modern English” :evil:

            “make it easier to understand God’s inspired word.” God’s inspired word. You, however, will NEVER understand a word of it.”

            No I won’t as it’s NOT easier :shock:

            YOUR CONgregation of Bible Trashers have REPLACED the Original meanings and have made a NEW updated NWT, which by the way, is an abomination and an affront to the Word of God, that was delivered unto the Saints, which has been followed for thousands of years BEFORE YOUR… NWT was :arrow: Pucked up from the Belly of the BEAST arrived.

            And your right :arrow: I’ll Never understand it.. (NWT)

            take for instance the very basic understanding that… Jesus is the CREATOR from

            John 1:1

            1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God.…

            John 1:14 14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory,

            :arrow: :idea: Very clear for ANY rational person to see and Understand :idea:

            YOUR UPDATED version

            NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES (2013 REVISION)

            Translates this very clear verse :arrow: into a :arrow: Dogs Dinner !!

            1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have observed and our hands have felt, concerning the word of life

            And so goes with most of your other UPDATES ………NO WONDER you CANNOT see HIM as HE is :arrow: The ALMIGHTY….because you’ve stripped away ALL His Deity in this… Abomination of a Translation :cry:

            Repent Mr Savage,don’t spend another wasted day going around the mountain 40 years is a long time in the WILDERNESS.. :!:

            1 John 2:22
            22Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.

            So clearly Mr Savage your CONgregation follows SATAN and are Antichrist and Liars because you deny… “The Father and the Son”

            JW .Org Says… :arrow: So we do not worship Jesus, as we do not believe that he is Almighty God. ???/ :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

            :arrow: USE the Scriptures delivered unto the Saints :idea: ,not these Satanic interpretations from the Wretched ones at NWT. :evil:

            All that you have ever posted has been woefully inaccurate due to you being Poor in Spirit, Blind to Y’shua’s GLORY!, So this makes you a FAKE Witness for God…as you worship Him not.

            • MikeSavage

              It’s a shame that absolutely nothing you’ve posted is true, and you post it anyway, having ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. You’ve NEVER studied with any of God’s people, or never asked them questions about themselves, or ever studied the NWT. You’ve got no information upon which to base your attacks, yet you still attack. You’re even dishonest in your dishonesty. You should try to acquire some first hand information on God’s people. Go to a Kingdom hall, ask for a Bible study, and find out for yourself. Stop taking your religion’s word for anything, or anyone else’s word for things, and FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF. Have some independent thoughts for a change. I know it’s a foreign activity for you, but you would really benefit from it. Give it a try.

    • Amminadab

      God’s long-suffering has ended. The world has rejected His mercy, despised His love, and trampled upon His law. The wicked have passed the boundary of their probation; the Spirit of God, persistently resisted, has been at last withdrawn. Unsheltered by divine grace, they have no protection from the wicked one. Satan will then plunge the inhabitants of the earth into one great, final trouble. . . . The people of God will then be plunged into those scenes of affliction and distress described by the prophet as the time of Jacob’s trouble. FLB 339

      As Satan influenced Esau to march against Jacob, so he will stir up the wicked to destroy God’s people in the time of trouble. And as he accused Jacob, he will urge his accusations against the people of God. He numbers the world as his subjects; but the little company who keep the commandments of God are resisting his supremacy. If he could blot them from the earth, his triumph would be complete. He sees that holy angels are guarding them, and he infers that their sins have been pardoned; but he does not know that their cases have been decided in the sanctuary above. He has an accurate knowledge of the sins which he has tempted them to commit, and he presents these before God in the most exaggerated light, representing this people to be just as deserving as himself of exclusion from the favour of God. He declares that the Lord cannot in justice forgive their sins and yet destroy him and his angels. He claims them as his prey and demands that they be given into his hands to destroy. GC11 618

      Had not Jacob previously repented of his sin in obtaining the birthright by fraud, God would not have heard his prayer and mercifully preserved his life. So, in the time of trouble, if the people of God had unconfessed sins to appear before them while tortured with fear and anguish, they would be overwhelmed; despair would cut off their faith, and they could not have confidence to plead with God for deliverance. But while they have a deep sense of their unworthiness, they have no concealed wrongs to reveal. Their sins have gone beforehand to judgement and have been blotted out, and they cannot bring them to remembrance. GC11 620

      Wonderful events are soon to open before the world. The end of all things is at hand. The time of trouble is about to come upon the people of God. Then it is that the decree will go forth forbidding those who keep the Sabbath of the Lord to buy or sell, and threatening them with punishment, and even death, if they do not observe the first day of the week as the Sabbath. HS 156

      Jacob’s experience during that night of wrestling and anguish represents the trial through which the people of God must pass just before Christ’s second coming. The prophet Jeremiah, in holy vision looking down to this time, said, “We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace. . . . All faces are turned into paleness. Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.” Jeremiah 30:5-7. PP 201

    • Amminadab

      The Time of Jacob’s Trouble

      The time of Jacob’s trouble. (See The Great Controversy, 613–634.) is a particular time when Jesus says the people of God will stand without a mediator and they will not know their condition for sure.

      God’s people can see the plagues falling. They can see everything that is happening all around them and their question is, “Am I right with God.” They know that there is no mediator any longer, probation has closed. If there is any sin at this point, it is hopeless.

      The question comes to our mind, Why? Why does not God deliver His people out of the world and take them to the kingdom of God right now? Why do they have to go through this experience after probation has closed? The reason for this is found in Testimonies, vol. 4, 8: “The purification of the people of God cannot be accomplished without their suffering.” We probably do not understand this, and we may never understand, but it is there.

      Notice this detail about the attitude of the wicked at this time. “And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire and men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues; and they repented not to give Him glory.” Revelation 16:8, 9. Even through fear they will not repent. They are so locked in an attitude of defiance against God that nothing will change them.

      Eventually the last plague comes. “There fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent; and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail.” Revelation 16:21. There is still no repentance. No matter what God does, their hearts are so locked in defiance and rebellion that they will not surrender under any conditions. He is showing the whole universe that when Christ said, “It is finished,” it was finished. There is nobody else who will repent no matter what.
      http://www.stepstolife.org/php/view_article.php?article_id=943

    • Amminadab

      truthseeker:
      We briefly call attention to the events under each of the seven seals in their order.

      (1.) The opening of the first seal reveals a white horse, whose rider had a bow and a crown as he went forth conquering and to conquer. This is a fit emblem of the triumphs of the gospel in the first centuries of this dispensation, the whiteness of the horse denoting the purity of faith in that age.

      (2.) At the opening of the second seal, there appeared a red horse. If the whiteness of the first horse denoted the purity of the gospel in the first period, the redness of the second horse may denote that in the second period the original purity of the church began to be corrupted. The mystery of iniquity was at work hi Paul’s day. Errors began to arise, and the love of the world came in at an early date, which ripened into a state of things in Constantine’s time, A. D. 323, described by Dr. Rice thus: “It represents a secular period, or union of church and State. Constantine aided the clergy, and put them under obligations to him. Mosheim says of this period, ‘ There was continual war and trouble,’”

      (3.) The opening of the third seal presented a black horse, and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. The work of corruption in the church progressed rapidly. The black horse, the very opposite of the first, represents a period of great darkness and moral corruption. By the events of the second seal, the way was fully opened for that state of things to be brought about which is here presented. The time that intervened between the reign of Constantine and the establishment of the papacy in A. D. 538, may be justly noted as the time when the darkest errors and grossest superstitions sprung up in the church.

      “The balances denoted that religion and civil power would be united in the person who would administer the executive power in the government, and that he would claim the judicial authority both in church and State. This was true among the Roman emperors from the days of Constantine until the reign of Justinian, when he gave the same judicial power to the bishop of Rome.”—Miller’s Lectures, p. 181.

      (4.) When the fourth seal was opened, there appeared a pale horse, and his name that sat on him was called Death, and Hell followed with him. The color of this horse, which is pale or yellowish, like that seen in blighted or sickly plants, denotes the condition of things in the church when the papacy bore its unrestrained and persecuting rule, commencing about A. D. 538, and extending to the time when the reformers had exposed the corruptions of the papal system. During that period fifty millions of martyrs lost their lives by the very instrumentalities named in the prophetic description of that period.

      (5.) The events to transpire under the fifth seal are, the crying of the martyrs for vengeance, and giving to them white robes. This represents the work of the reformers, and covers the period of the great reformation. In reference to the souls under the altar, Dr. Clarke says:

      “A symbolical vision was exhibited in which he saw an altar. And under it the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God—-martyred for their attachment to Christianity—are represented as being newly slain, as victims to idolatry and superstition. The altar is upon earth not in Heaven.”

      A, Barnes makes the following remarks in reference to this subject:—

      ” We are not to suppose that this literally occurred, and that John actually saw the souls of the martyrs beneath the altars—for the whole representation is symbolical; nor are we to suppose that the injured and the wronged in Heaven actually pray for vengeance on those who wronged them, or that the redeemed in Heaven will continue to pray with reference to things on the earth ; but it may be fairly inferred from this that there will be as real a remembrance of the wrongs of the persecuted, the injured, and the oppressed, as if such prayer were offered there ; and that the oppressor has as much to dread from the divine vengeance as if those whom he has injured should cry in Heaven to the God who hears prayer, and who takes vengeance. The wrongs done to the children of God, to the orphan, the widow, the down-trodden, to the slave and the outcast, will be as certainly remembered in Heaven as if they who are wronged should plead for vengeance there ; for every act of injustice and oppression goes to Heaven and pleads for vengeance. Every persecutor should dread the death of the persecuted as if he went to Heaven to plead against him ; every cruel master should dread the death of his slave that is crushed by wrongs ; every seducer should dread the death and the cries of his victim ; every one who does wrong in any way should remember that the sufferings of the injured cry to Heaven with a martyr’s pleadings, saying, ‘ How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood ?’”

      For a full exposition of this subject, read Thoughts on the Revelation, by Elder U. Smith.
      Address, REVIEW AND HERALD, Battle Creek, Mich.

      (6.) “And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake ; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood ; and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig-tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind; and the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bond man, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb ; for the great day of his wrath is come ; and who shall be able to stand?”

      Such are the solemn and sublime scenes that transpire under the sixth seal. And a thought well calculated to awaken in every heart an in- tense interest in divine things, is the consideration that we are now living amid the momentous events of this seal.

      Between the fifth and sixth seals there seems to be a sudden and entire change in the language, from the highly figurative to the strictly literal. Whatever may be the cause of this change, the change itself cannot well be denied. By no principle of interpretation can the language of the preceding seals be made to be literal; nor can that language of this any more easily be made to be figurative.

      The first event under this seal, perhaps the one which marks its opening, is a great earthquake. As the more probable fulfillment of this prediction, we refer to the great earthquake of Nov. 1, 1755. Of this earthquake, Sears in his ” Wonders of the World,” pp. 50, 58, 381, says:—

      “The great earthquake of Nov. 1, 1755, extended over a tract of at least 4,000,000 of square miles. Its effects were even extended to the waters in many places where the shocks were not perceptible. It pervaded the greater portion of Europe, Africa, and America; but its extreme violence was exercised on the southwestern part of the former. In Africa this earthquake was felt almost as severely as it had been in Europe. A great part of Algiers was destroyed. Many houses were thrown clown at Fez and Mequinez, and multitudes were buried beneath the ruins. Similar effects were realized at Morocco. Its effects were likewise felt at Tangiers, at Tetuan, at Funchal in the island of Madeira. It is probable that all Africa was shaken. At the north it extended to Norway and Sweden. Germany, Holland, France, Great Britain, and Ireland were all more or less agitated by the same great commotion of the elements. Lisbon (Portugal), previous to the earthquake in 1755, contained 150,000 inhabitants. Mr. Barretti says that 90,000 persons are suppose to have been lost on that fatal day.”

      On page 200 of the same work, we again read:

      ” The terror of the1 people was beyond description. Nobody wept—it was beyond tears—they ran hither and thither, delirious with horror and astonishment, beating their faces and breasts, crying, ‘Misericordia, the world’s at an end!’ Mothers forgot their children, and ran about loaded with crucifix images. Unfortunately many ran to the churches for protection; but in vain was the sacrament exposed; in vain did the poor creatures embrace the altars; images, priests, and people were buried in one common ruin.”

      The Encyclopedia Americana states that this earthquake extended also to Greenland ; and of its effects upon the city of Lisbon, further says:

      ” The city then contained about 150,000 inhabitants. The shock was instantly followed by the fall of every church and convent, almost all the large public buildings, and more than one-fourth of the houses. In about two hours after the shock, fires broke out in different quarters, and raged with such violence, for the space of nearly three days, that the city was completely desolated. The earthquake happened on a holy-day, when the churches and convents were full of people, very few of whom escaped.”

      The events which follow the great earthquake under the sixth seal are the special signs, in the sun, moon, and stars, of the second coming of Christ. The dark day and dark night of 1780 is described in these words: “The sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood.” The moon that was full the day before, appeared through the darkness of the night like a ball of blood. This was the appearance as presented to the prophet. Christ, speaking of these signs, says, ” The sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall’ not give her light.”

      The Concord [N. H.] People speaks of the dark day, May 19, 1780, thus:—

      ” It was not the blackness of a storm-cloud, such as sometimes with a frightful agitation breaks over a single city; it was the silent spreading of the pall cloth over the earth by strong, invisible hands.”

      “The dark day, May 19, 1780, so called on account of a remarkable darkness on that day, extending over all New England, In some places persons could not see to read common print in the open air for several hours together. The true cause of this remarkable phenomenon is not known.”— Webster’s Dictionary, edition for 1869.

      The prophetic description of the falling of the stars met a literal fulfillment in the meteoric shower of Nov. 13, 1833, which was unlike any other on record in appearance, extent, and magnitude. The falling stars is the last special sign upon which believers, base their faith in the near second advent. The departing of the atmospheric heaven is after the close of probation. This seems evident from the fact that the affrighted multitudes in despair of the mercy of the Lord, direct their cries to mountains and rocks to fall on them and hide them from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb.

      While the book of Daniel has to do with four universal monarchies, Babylon, Persia, Grecia, and Rome, and its several chains of prophecy bring us with wonderful definiteness, to the day of God, the second coming of Christ, and the last Judgment the book of Revelation pertains to the fourth Rome, and its several lines of prophecy bring us down, with the same minuteness, to the same point, and open before us the naked glare of eternal scenes.
      http://dedication.www3.50megs.com/jswhite_seals1.html
      http://dedication.www3.50megs.com/jswhite_trumpets_overview.html

    • Amminadab

      truthseeker:
      and the trumpets:
      Political events are fitly symbolized by trumpets, the chosen heralds of war and revolution. The seven trumpets of Rev. 8, 9, and 11, bring to view the great political events in the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, and reach over past the destruction of all earthly kingdoms, and of sin and sinners, to the time when Christ shall be the great King, and his dominion shall embrace all the earth.

      The first trumpet was fulfilled in the first invasion of the Roman Empire by the Goths under Alaric, commencing A. D. 395.

      The second trumpet points to the terrible inflection of disaster upon the empire by the piratical Vandals under Genseric, 428-468.

      Attila and his warlike Huns responded to the call of the third trumpet. Under the fourth trumpet, the Ostrogoths, Theodoric and Odoacer raised their thrones on the now extinguished Western Empire. A third part of the luminaries in the Roman political heavens was now darkened.

      The ninth chapter of Revelation is devoted in equal portions to the fifth and sixth trumpets, fulfilled respectively by the Saracens and Turks. These trumpets bring to view the scourge of Christendom by the Mohammedans. These are woe trumpets. The prophetic periods of the fifth trumpet ended in 1449; that of the sixth, August 11, 1840. The second woe was then past, ” and behold,” said the prophet, ” the third woe cometh quickly.” Rev. 11:14.

      The startling events to occur under the sounding of the seventh angel are given in these words: ” And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.” Verse 18. The seventh trumpet, though the last of the seven, is not the ” last trump” that will rouse the dead and change the living righteous ” in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye.”

      The seventh trumpet, like the six that precede it, covers a period of time, and under its sounding a series of events occur. Mark the difference: The work of the last trump will be accomplished ” in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye;” 1 Cor. 15: 52; while that of the seventh angel covers a period of prophetic days: “But in the days [years] of the voice of the seventh angel.” Rev. 10:7. The last three of the seven are woe trumpets. The seventh is the third woe covering all remaining woes, reaching to the execution of the last Judgment, when sin and sinners will cease to exist.
      http://dedication.www3.50megs.com/jswhite_trumpets_overview.html
      http://www.lightministries.com/id11.htm

      • Truthseeker

        amminadab

        You and I are so far apart it is not worth continuing to talk.

        • Scanner Darko

          Talking?

          amminadab doesn’t talk. He copies and pastes prepared info or plagiarizes someone else’s.

        • MikeSavage

          Truthseeker;
          You and Amminadab are “so far apart” because you are incapable of being truthful, and incapable of independ thought. Your beliefs aren’t even your own. You acquire them from religions and other people, rather than researching and studying, honestly, on your own. You have no room to talk.

          • Scanner Darko

            Why do you speak for Truthseeker, Savage?

            Dig up the evidence to show that Truthseeker advocates for a religion, savage…

            I’ll hold my breath :oops:

            • MikeSavage

              S.D.;
              What makes you think I work for, or take commands from you?

          • Gus Fung

            MikeSalvage quote: “You and Amminadab are “so far apart” because you are incapable of being truthful, and incapable of independ thought. Your beliefs aren’t even your own. You acquire them from religions and other people, rather than researching and studying, honestly, on your own. You have no room to talk.”

            Deliciously preposterous, obliviously ironic quote of the day goes to the stinky indoctrinated mackerel head who sometimes calls himself mike.

            • MikeSavage

              Gus;
              It’s a statement based on TruthSeeker’s rediculous posts of the past year. You aren’t any better than TruthSeeker. You try your hardest to be annoying and full of it up to your ears.

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