Urgent Warning: The Hebrew Scriptures Give Us the Exact Day of the End
Urgent Warning: The Hebrew Scriptures Give Us The EXACT Day Of The End
By
Israel Ben Barzle
And
Yehoshua Ben Barzle
The information I am about to put forth has never been put into print to my knowledge. It is groundbreaking information pulled from the pages of the Hebrew Prophets that will impact you and your family in the days ahead. My suggestion as you read through the following paragraphs is that you spend some time in very sincere conversation with the Creator of this world.
On a personal note, I am not a date-setter kind of guy. In fact, I usually go out of my way to debunk the date-setters, as I believe when the date that has been set does not come to pass, it harms the name of the G-d of Abraham. However, in a pure biblical sense, it is very difficult to analytically refute what I am about to share. So please understand dear reader—it is with earnest, G-dly fear that I impart, not what could be, but what WILL BE, one of the most important days of our collective lives.
Israel Ben Barzle
In recent weeks we have seen a series of critical Hebraic dates and events converge. We have witnessed the end of a Shemitah that did not clear our biblical debt; the final series of Blood Moon Tetrads announcing an upcoming, final war in Israel; the blatant, public rebellion of the Western Powers on Yom Kippur 2015; the all-important commencement of the Seventieth Jubilee cycle; the invasion of the Middle East by Russian forces; the beginnings of a final intifada in the land of Israel. All of these events have come together all at once. And, if you are scripturally sensitive at all, you cannot help but realize that something big is getting ready to happen on the prophetic horizon.
But the big question has always been: “so when exactly will the final shoe drop?” When will all these prophecies actually culminate in a tangible, climactic way?
Folks, like most things in the Hebrew Scriptures, the information is there. It is simply a matter of us putting aside all the disinformation we have been taught by the so called experts, and focusing in on the very plain speaking messages the Creator has provided for all of us to see and understand for ourselves—not just from the paid professionals trying to sell books.
Think about it. Why would the Creator of this world give us information regarding super critical issues that could only be understood and disseminated by the overeducated, religious elite? Last I checked, G-d chose common, ordinary people to understand and share His truths. Moses was an adrift Levite baby who became the greatest prophet of all time. Abraham was a lowly sheepherder who became a chosen nation. Joseph was a slave and prisoner who ultimately ascended to Second-In-Command of a world superpower. David was a mere shepherd who became a king, the youngest in his family, and so insignificant he was initially overlooked.
So, as we venture into the subject matter, please keep in mind that G-d most often uses the small, irrelevant, everyday people like you and I to understand His great mysteries. And most often the answers to these mysteries have been there all along, waiting for us to put aside the preconceived ideas, and to be discovered in a humble desire to really, actually know the One who gave us our very existence.
Hidden in Plain Sight
When it comes to prophecy, we all want to know “when”. This is especially true as we begin to see factors greater than ourselves coming together in a prophetic, perfect storm. As thinking, breathing creatures that want to keep thinking and breathing, all of us want to know when something big might happen that would potentially impact our lives, and the lives of our loved ones. This becomes especially true when it is on the scale of Creator versus Mankind, something warned about over and over in the prophetic scriptures. So does the Creator give us this level of critical intel in these Scriptures…for real? Does He give us something we really can sink our prophetic teeth into, something so absolute that we can take it to the bank and deposit it under our “ultimate fate” account?
Yes, He quite literally does. And folks, it has been hidden in plain sight all along.
Haggai was a prophet to Judah during the time shortly after Judah had returned to the land of Israel from Babylonian captivity. Haggai was a critical player used by G-d to prophesy during the after-exile Temple restoration process. Haggai, along with Zechariah, and possibly Malachi, also finalized the Hebrew Scriptural Canon—the Old Testament.
Most often overlooked, the Prophet Haggai was given some absolute key Last Day prophecies. These prophecies are connected to five primary issues:
The Final Temple
The Redemption of the Twelve Tribes of Israel
The Final Overthrow of the Gentile Kingdoms
A Great Geophysical Shaking of the Planet
The Restoration of the Davidic King-line through a Messiah
All five of these issues are “the” primary issues of the Last Days. These five prophetic issues form a baseline of Old Testament prophetic understanding, elements of which are found in every single prophetic book of the Hebrew Scriptures. The prophet Isaiah in chapter 13 regards this time of the great shaking of the heavens and the earth, both on a planetary and geopolitical level, as the “Day of YHWH”. The Prophet Joel in chapter 3 connects this exact time of great geophysical shaking with the liberation of Jerusalem, the destruction of the gentile enemy, the restoration of the children of Israel. The Prophet Habakkuk in chapters 2-3 ties together the restoration of the Tribes, the restoration of the Temple, the overthrow of the gentile kingdoms, a great shaking of the earth, a pole shift, and a loud noise emanating over the whole planet. And the list goes on and on.
But where other prophets unfold various details and nuances of these five critical issues in creative fashion with colorful terms and narratives, Haggai the Prophet gives us a full course meal of meat and potatoes. His words are blunt, provocative, and to the prophetic point.
At the conclusion of the Book of Haggai, he summarizes his prophecies using terms that are uber-clear.
Haggai 2:18-22
Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the Lord‘s temple was laid, consider it.
19 Is the seed yet in the barn? yea, as yet the vine, and the fig tree, and the pomegranate, and the olive tree, hath not brought forth: from this day will I bless you.
20 And again the word of the Lord came unto Haggai in the four and twentieth day of the month, saying,
21 Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth;
22 And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen (gentiles); and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, everyone by the sword of his brother
23 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the Lord, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the Lord of hosts.
In the prophecy of Haggai we see all five of these primary issues of biblical prophecy. I do not care if you are Jew, Christian, or some derivative, any biblically seasoned person will agree that these five issues are the core of OT prophecy, however someone may slice and dice them together theologically.
But notice something strange. Haggai gives us a specific day: the twenty-fourth day of the ninth month
It gets even more provocative when we look to the ancient Hebrew and view the first sentence of Haggai’s summary in its literal meaning.
“Consider now from this day and upward…”
This phrase in Hebrew is “suwmev na lebeb-com men hayom hazah vema’alah”. Unfortunately, what we have here in these words in our English Bibles is a rather feeble translation. This phrase incorporates a sturdy “Hebrewism”, the use of phraseology that is commonly recognized by a Hebrew reader to have a very specific meaning when used in a sentence. In addition, the phrase here even adds a special word meaning to implore important attention. In other words, what it is saying here to the reader is: “PLEASE! Take in the importance of what is being said here.”
The phrase “suwmev na lebeb-com” means literally to “please set your heart on this”. The phrase “men hayom hazah vema’alah” means “from the day—of this (day) –and higher”. In essence, what it is stating here in proper Hebrew, in a comprehensible paraphrase is:
“Please! Set your heart on this day, and even more so, to the same day later on which will have a ‘higher’ implication.”
Dear reader, this is absolutely clear in the Hebrew. This day, the twenty-fourth day of the ninth month, had some meaning in Zerubbabel’s time. But, according to the prophecy, it has an even higher ultimate meaning in a prophetic sense, and this is what the Hebrew here is telling us.
In fact, the prophecy of Haggai is doggedly determined that the reader zero in on this specific day. The twenty fourth day of the ninth month is stated no less than four times in the last chapter of the Book of Haggai, and it is precisely outlined by Haggai as “the” day to prophetically watch for.
This is astounding.
And, if we read the entire chapter of Haggai’s prophecy double checking for context, we will see that the Temple of which he is prophesying can only be the Latter Day Temple (vs 7-9), a Temple that will be much greater than the original. He speaks of the “desire of all nations to come”, a direct reference to the coming King Messiah (vs 7). Haggai also clarifies upfront that this is no ordinary earthquake we’re talking about—all the gentile nations will be shaken (vs 7).
Thus, we can see why the Prophet Haggai asks us to set our hearts on this particular day. And if we take the time to break it out, we see that Haggai gives us a time sensitive, very well-defined summary of these five core issues using specific idioms and terms that are very well documented as to their meaning elsewhere in the Scriptures.
The Final Temple
“Consider (set your heart on it) now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the Lord‘s temple was laid, consider it (set your heart on it).”
The Redemption of the Twelve Tribes of Israel
“Is the seed (all of Abraham’s seed) yet in the barn? yea, as yet the vine (House of Israel), and the fig tree (the House of Judah), and the pomegranate (the Davidic King-line), and the olive tree (the final restored Israel), hath not (yet been) brought forth: from this day will I bless you.
A Great Geophysical Shaking of the Planet
“And again the word of the Lord came unto Haggai in the four and twentieth day of the month, saying,
Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth;”
The Final Overthrow of the Gentile Kingdoms
“And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen (gentiles); and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, everyone by the sword of his brother”
The Restoration of the Davidic King-line
“In that day (the twenty fourth day of the ninth month), saith the Lord of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the Lord, and will make thee as a signet (the king’s ring): for I have chosen thee, saith the Lord of hosts.”
To drive the point home leaving absolutely no doubts, we must ask ourselves: “is Haggai speaking Latter Day prophecy here, or is this just Old Testament history that already came about?”
OK…did ANY of these five issues come to pass in Zerubbabel’s time?
They did not. None of these events in Haggai’s prophecy occurred in Zerubbabel’s time. A final Temple, perpetually blessed, was not built. All of Israel, all of Abraham’s seed from all Twelve Tribes, were not restored; nor are they still. The planet did not experience a catastrophic, world-wide shaking in Zerubbabel’s time. All of the gentile kingdoms were not overthrown, and, as of today, are still in control. Since the fall of Jerusalem in Jeremiah’s time a descendant of King David has never held the official title of “King of Israel” with the official royal signet—never. In fact, Zerubbabel was merely made a vassal governor under the authority of a foreign power, never a king of Israel. The prophet Zechariah, Haggai’s contemporary, states in detail that Zerubbabel was not a final prophetic product, but was a foreshadowing figure symbolic of a coming king who would be involved in the final restoration of the Temple.
None of these prophecies have come to pass. But we are told throughout the Scriptures that these events WILL HAPPEN in the future—and according to Haggai’s words these prophecies will come to conclusion on the twenty fourth day of the ninth month on the Hebrew calendar.
The 24th of Kislev
The twenty fourth day of the ninth month is the 24th day of the month of Kislev on the Hebrew calendar. It is a fascinating day in history, as it is a day we are given some precise, prophetic shadow pictures leading up to the final Great Event.
In 167 BC a portion of the Jews in Israel revolted against Greek rule in their land. This revolt was led by a family: the Maccabees. They were a family of rural priest-warriors from the tribe of Levi. The Maccabean revolt was eventually successful, and it was in 160 BC that the Jews retook Jerusalem, liberated the Temple, and threw off their foreign conquerors in the land.
The specific day that this occurred—the liberation of the Temple Mount from the pagan Greeks? You guessed it—the twenty fourth day of the ninth month, the 24th of Kislev.
This great day of liberation is memorialized in Jewish historical tradition, and is still celebrated today, although many of us may not know some of the more fascinating circumstances.
When the Jews and the Levitical Priesthood reclaimed the Temple on the 24th day of Kislev in 160 BC, they searched for the proper oil to burn in the Menorah lamps in the Temple. This particular Temple oil had to go through a very specific process in order to be pure enough to be used for G-d’s sacred service in His house, as outlined by the Torah. Finding only one day’s worth of oil, the priests decided to go ahead and burn what they had until proper Temple oil could be produced, a process that took about a week. Miraculously, one day’s worth of Temple oil lasted for eight days. These eight days are incredibly special days in the Jewish tradition. These days are celebrated as the Jewish “Festival of Lights”, known world-wide as “Hanukah”.
Thus, the 24th of Kislev, the twenty fourth day of the ninth month, is the literal origin of Hanukah. It is the day that signifies the release of the Temple from foreign domination.
Flash forward to December 9th, 1917. Prior to this date, Jerusalem had been under Turkish Muslim domination for centuries. It was General Lord Allenby of the British Army who successfully liberated the Holy City from Muslim control. The day the military offensive concluded, and Jerusalem and the Temple Mount were free once more was….
…The twenty fourth day of the ninth month, the 24th of Kislev.
Folks, there is just way too much coincidence going on here; and coincidence is a non-kosher word to a religious Hebrew. There is just no such thing when you are dealing with a G-d who is a master at controlling circumstances in such a clear-cut fashion. On both occasions, G-d liberated the Temple Mount on the 24th of Kislev.
So what we see in these events leading up to the final Great Event are shadow pictures that the Creator has perfectly provided to us to validate and establish the fact that the twenty fourth day of the ninth month, the 24th of Kislev, is “the” day that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will intervene permanently on the present fate of the Temple Mount and complete the restoration of the Twelve Tribes of Israel to their Temple. According to Him, it is on this day that He will shake the geophysics of the planet like never before in history. It is on this day He will bring about the end of the supremacy of the gentile nations in our world with intention. And it is on this day that He will officially reestablish the destiny of the Davidic King-line.
So What Does This Mean?
This is where the rubber meets the road.
There will be spectacular events—mind-blowing prophetic events leading up to this day. Pieces of the End-time puzzle will fall into place systematically, as the course of human history comes to a climax. However, the Creator through His Word points to this particular day as “the” watershed prophetic day that His Divine plan is implemented in full measure.
For His reasons, the Creator has chosen this day, the 24th of Kislev, the twenty fourth day of the ninth month, to be the day that He universally shakes the heavens and earth—and He states this in clear terms. You can biblically count on the fact that on the 24th of Kislev, at some point in the future, there will be a catastrophic, geophysical event, across the entire planet, the likes which we have never seen before. There will most likely be surreal, earth-shaking events leading up to this day as the prophetic birth pangs heighten, but the result of the geophysics of this particular day will be decisive, putting into play the final scenes of the prophetic scenario.
Does this all sound just way too good to be true? I mean, is G-d being this forthright with us as to give us a precise time as to when the End is to finally come about?
Yes, I know, we are all used to hearing from the experts that we just cannot figure this whole thing out without buying their latest book.
But the Creator Himself puts these money-driven charlatans in their place. It states in the Hebrew Scriptures that G-d does nothing of any prophetic magnitude without personally providing a prophet to tell us exactly what is about to occur.
Amos 3:6-8
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?
7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord God hath spoken, who can but prophesy?
Haggai is that Prophet, and he has given us a straight forward, concrete point of timing to work with. And, by the way, notice Haggai does not ask for any financial compensation.
This leads us to the prophetic nitty-gritty. Understanding that we are in the final season of biblical prophecy, as we have entered the Seventieth Jubilee cycle, here are the upcoming dates of the 24th of Kislev, the twenty fourth day of the ninth month on the Hebrew calendar:
The 24th of Kislev in 2015 is December 6th. This is just a few short weeks away.
The 24th of Kislev in 2016 is December 24th, on Christmas Eve.
The 24th of Kislev in 2017 is December 12th.
In conclusion, please hear me. This idea of a specific day is not coming from some fringe lunatic writer telling you to sell your home and gather on a remote hillside somewhere to await a rapture. The details we have included in this article are coming straight from the ancient prophets themselves. The conclusion that the 24th of Kislev is the Creator-given day that five core prophetic issues of the Old Testament are decisively concluded comes from the data, from the analysis of what the Hebrew language states in the prophecies of Haggai in crystal clear Hebraic terms.
So you decide….
Please take this information and make a hard evaluation of where events are right now, and where they are most likely going. It is getting late in the game. Many prophetic factors are converging, and things look to accelerate in the weeks ahead. We have brought the 24th of Kislev to our readers’ attention because we believe it is time to come to grips with where we are at in the prophetic timeline. Reality is bearing down on us. We are in the final cycle.
And the Creator is giving us real answers.
Please feel free to reproduce, publish, and post this article in any appropriate website, publication, or venue. We give full permission as long as authors are cited and none of the contents of the article are changed or modified—Israel Barzle
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Whistler Blowers, Insiders
isn’t it really interesting that god plays favorites? or is it that the book was written by those who claim they are favored??
Took you 4 minutes to come up with that? Worst troll ever. At least be creative about it.
I updated this with what the Masonic Compass Means
The Apple is the Aether
http://flatearthtruth.freeforums.net/thread/116/apple-aether
“Last I checked, G-d chose common, ordinary people to understand and share His truths. Moses was an adrift Levite baby who became the greatest prophet of all time. Abraham was a lowly sheepherder who became a chosen nation. Joseph was a slave and prisoner who ultimately ascended to Second-In-Command of a world superpower. David was a mere shepherd who became a king, the youngest in his family, and so insignificant he was initially overlooked.”
Yes, it says that people were favored — not because they were more qualified.
“In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the Lord, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the Lord of hosts.”
My DNA is comparable to public records of other people, claiming Davidic lineage, some of whom share the same surnames. It so happens that I am tall, strong, and intelligent, also. But, none of that means that I am empowered to determine my own fate or give myself honorific titles.
Should desertspeaks be the kingmaker?
what is the difference of moses and Osama bin laden? none-both had their hearts filled with hate the optima tool of satan–moses set his army on the idol worshipers–moses felt very justified in doing so,just like Osama.yet somehow we elevate moses the murderer-shows how corrupted the thinking of bible pages smokers are-
Anonymous;
Typing G_d is so absurd as to be too weird to even laugh at. God is His TITLE, not His name, which is Jehovah. Adhereing to superstitions of the Pharisees and Scribes of Jesus’ day is tantamount to insulting and turning your back on God. It’s not my place to tell anyone what to do, but it seems like a VERY bad thing to do, if one intends to love and worship Him.
Jews avoid calling upon his name, for venal purposes, even where there is no realistic question of vulgarity.
Also, yours is apparently a Hellenized pronunciation.
Jehovah isnt his name. It is his name – YHWH – with the vowels of Adonai inserted. A name invented by Christians. Jews do not know how to say YHWH. The pronounciation was lost.
Jehovah IS God’s personal name. Take the word “hallelujah”. It’s a word that means praise Jah, an abbreviation of Jehovah. Take Jehoiachin, Jehoiakim (both were Jewish Kings) and other names like it. It was common for people to use God’s name, or part of it, in naming their children. In English it is Jehovah. In Spanish it is pronounced Hay–oh–vahʹ; in Italian, Jeh–ohʹvah; in German, Yeh–hoʹvah. Which is correct? All are usable. What is wrong is to suppress the name of God by failing or refusing to use it.
The pronounciation has been Jehovah for over 800 years, but no one really can know how Israel pronounced it in Jesus’ day. The Pharisees and Scribes of his day are the ones who started the superstitious practice of not using God’s personal name, and then they wouldn’t even spell out His title in full. God is a title, Jehovah is His name. You are using the words of false religions in claiming that God’s name isn’t Jehovah. There is a huge amount of evidence existing that Jehovah is the correct pronounciation, and NONE indicating that it’s not correct. The only evidence of Jehovah not being the correct pronounciation is modern day traditions, nothing from the distant past. Modern sects/denominations are apostate Christianity. They aren’t Christian, they are Christendom, half pagan half Christian. Not a one of them is to be trusted, as the scriptures tell us that they’re false, works of the flesh and Babylon the Great. So you are taking apostate’s word for what God’s name is, and ignoring God’s inspired word for the information. What makes you think that’s even a remotely good idea? It’s an extremely BAD idea in fact. You claim adonai is a name, it’s not. It’s Hebrew for God, which is a title, not a name. I wouldn’t take a Jew’s word for ANYTHING regarding the scriptures or God Himself, or Jesus, as they’re the first class of people said to be antichrist and apostate by Jesus himself. They reject Jesus, and the Christian Greek scriptures. In other words, they will believe God up to a point, and then they cease to believe Him. There is nothing at all that is right about that.
Anonymous;
NO, it’s not a Hellenized pronunciation. It was common to include parts of God’s personal name in newborn’s first names, such as Jehoicahin, Jehochiakin, Jeroboam, etc. Take the word “hallelujah”. It literally means praise Jehovah. Jehovah is the pronunciation used for well over 8 hundred years. We don’t have the exact pronunciation, as the Jews apostasized and stopped using it out of a pagan superstition, and continue to do so to this day, but all the clues in the scriptures DO point to Jehovah as the correct pronunciation.
DamnEI;
YOU POSTED THE FOLLOWING BIT OF ABSURDITY:
Jehovah isnt his name. It is his name – YHWH – with the vowels of Adonai inserted. A name invented by Christians. Jews do not know how to say YHWH. The pronounciation was los
ADONAI MEANS GOD, A TITLE, NOT A NAME. HOW IS IT THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY LIVING PERSON ON EARTH WHO SEEMS TO KNOW THE LOST PRONUNCIATION OF JEHOVAH’S NAME? YOU SHOULD BE FAMOUS FOR THIS. NO ONE ELSE KNOWS EXACTLY THE PRONUNCIATION BECAUSE OF THE PAGAN SUPERSTITIONS OF THE JEWS IN NOT PRONOUNCING JEHOVAH’S NAME. YOU MUST BE A GENIUS! ACTUALLY, YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG. THERE ARE MOUNDS OF EVIDENCE THAT JEHOVAH IS CORRECT WITH A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF CERTAINTY. HALLELUJAH MEANS LITERALLY, PRAISE JAH, A SHORTENED FORM OF JEHOVAH. MANY USED PARTS OF JEHOVAH’S NAME IN THE NAMING OF THEIR CHILDREN, SUCH AS JEHOICHIN AND JEHOIAKIN. JEROBOAM, JEREMIA, AND SO ON. SECULAR WRITINGS OF THE TIME OF JESUS EARTHLY EXISTENCE USED JEHOVAH, AS WELL AS THE TETRAGRAMMATON. NO EVIDENCE EXISTS FOR YOUR MADE UP PRONUNCIATION, OTHER THAN THAT COMING FROM APOSTATE AND PAGAN CHRISTENDOM AND APOSTATE JUDAISM. YES, THEY ARE APOSTATE RELIGIONS. THEY STRAYED FROM THE ORIGINAL LONG, LONG AGO.
Mike Savage
Savage I DIDN’T give you any pronunciation. I just said that Jehovah IS (and it IS) a moder reconstruction of a lost pronunciation. Which it is.
I actually DO know the correct pronunciation (seriously).
But I’m not telling you.
Interesting, but I would read this first……
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Don’t you get tired of spamming everyone’s articles? God, you’re worse than Krapachakra.
Marked as the spam it is.
desertspeaks;
God didn’t play favorites, because He is not partial. He chose Israel as His chosen nation to be a nation of priests. They broke His contract or covenant constantly and worshiped pagan idols and gods, just like Christendom does today. Take Halloween for example, or Christmas, or Easter, or the cross, and so on. Christendom believes in immortal soul and hell fire, both of which come STRAIGHT out of pagan religions, not from the scriptures or from Christianity. Anyway, Israel is not God’s chosen nation any more, since they murdered His son, Jesus. He made a new covenant with physically holy spirit annointed Christians, 144,000 of them to be exact. He isn’t “playing favorites” with them either, but He chose them to co-rule with Jesus, from heaven, the Earth after Armageddon.
Quick question…
As an all powerfull/omnipotent being thus knowing prior to chooseing that his choosen ones would fail , can one assume the chosen ones were set up to do just so?
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
– Isa 45:7
We are used to being asked why there is evil, in the world, fwiw.
The topic is explored, at length, online.
Not asking why evil exists. What I’m asking is how can Big Sky Daddy’s actions not be taken as a massive set-up. He knew they would fail prior to chosing them. How is this not a complete punk witch manuver. Very un-cool and machiavellian IMHO. It’s like giving a 6 year old keys to the car and telling him if he does not make a cross county trip on his own without screwing up then he’s really in for it. You know the 6 year old is gonna fail so why do it?
Pt II.
If BSD creates darkness and evil (my guess is with intent, for what else is it created for then?) then how can we hold anyone accountable when it was BSD that created that intent in them? Sounds to me like they have no choise in the matter.
As long as there is an omnipotent being that knows everything that is going to happen prior to it happening then we are all just actors on a stage put there to play a part unable to veer from the script as it would prove BSD knowledge wrong. Especially given that he knows what you are going to do prior to you even existing. I’m of the belief that omnipotence and free will are not compatable.
You have it completely back to front, Haystack_Needle, but because you put it so well you have nearly asked a very good question indeed. Back to front whereby if you swapped “choise” and “free will” you’d have your answer.
Free-will isn’t the same thing as having a choice because while choice can be reduced to two options free-will can only ever be reduced to three with “doin nuffin” being the obligatory third. Free-will is not taught, in the Bible, except as an antonym to choice.
So we have a choice, not “free will”, and a creator god that didn’t allow us to choose would only ever be worthy of fearful blind obedience. Blind obedience? Isn’t looking and listening quite the theme in the Bible?
The number two, in the Bible, holds significance as the guide post for truth. Two pillars, two witnesses, two immutable things, two men in white, the seventy sent forth two by two and two trees.
Two trees? I put it to you that should Adam & Eve have obeyed God and eaten only from the rest of the garden, which must have included the tree of life, then history may well have been something completely different.
I go so far as to suggest that, through obedience, we may have been allowed to also eat from the tree of knowledge, of good & evil, thus receiving the perfect guide post for truth & life and, perhaps, this is part of what God came to regret about His creation. But it is, what it is, so instead of perfection we have a life of travail & toil and speculation is of little value.
So if you would rather look at the question from a human perspective, Haystack, you could do worse than consider…
http://www.philosophyofreligion.info/arguments-for-atheism/problems-with-divine-omniscience/freedom-and-foreknowledge/the-argument-from-future-facts/
… whereby your argument from foreknowledge is found to be philosophically flawed and must be abandoned.
Hello again Mayhem, hope all has been well, and thanks for the thoughts.
I think chosie can mean “the act of choosing” and choise can mean “having options”. Options can exist without a chooser, and thus without freewill. But the act of choosing cannot exist without both a choice and a chooser, thus it does require freewill.
BSD must have set himself up for that regret about his creation. Self sabotaging BSD? All-powerful/knowing must have know the outcome prior to his creation so what can we take from him being regretfull? That you can’t get your creation right even being all-powerful?
I imagine a convo with BSD going like this about free will…
Me: Hey BSD what up?
BSD: Just dealing with all the stupid down there, but you know, I created it so I can complain much.
Me: Right, Right…anyhow I was wondering, do you know what my fate is?
BSD: Yes
Me: Can I do anything to change what you know about my destiny and prove you wrong about me? Any choises I can make to do this?
BSD: No
Me: So I’m SOL?
BSD: Yes.
I don’t know what to take from you telling me to look at it from a human perspective. Versus what? Inhuman? Alien? Mythical?
Versus the spiritual perspective, Haystack, that is to say what is written from God’s perspective. Point being that the argument from foreknowledge is philosophically unsound and you don’t need a Bible to tell you that.
Who cares what you think, or what i think for that matter, philosophy thinks for itself through reason and logic. Which i find amusing considering how often atheists claim that faith is for the birds.
There is a fundamentally insurmountable difference between choice and free-will which your supposed logic loop fails to address. But it’s good that you think about things critically and i was where you are now just a few years ago.
Haystack;
No, one cannot assume that. That’s absurd.
On Dear! With respect, please read your Bible. Jesus, God the Son, spoke of hell – the place where all unbelievers will go. A place of complete separation from God and from all that He is and represents – for eternity. The unbeliever will regret their unbelief and be in torment. The gospel is for everyone who will believe, but death seals our earthly choices. You can’t change your mind once you have passed over. That’s why there will be “weeping and knashing of teeth” because the person will realise whom they have rejected.
The Jews did not murder Jesus. We all did. He died for the sin of every man, woman and child – Jew and Gentile. The Jews called for His death and the gentile roman soldiers crucified him. Without His death and resurrection, there would be no salvation.
The 144,000 in the book of revelation refers to Jewish believers. The nation of Israel belongs to God, He chose to give it to the Jews – for all time. They are still His chosen people – God has not finished with them as many in the Church believe.. we have been grafted in to the olive tree.. Jesus is the vine, the root of the tree, the Jews are the natural branches (some of which are broken off in unbelief) and we (the wild olive tree) were grafted in to them. It is not good to boast against the (natural) branches -remember that we do not support the root, but the root supports us (gentile believers – by faith).. we are warned, in this respect, “not to be haughty, but fear”… please read Romans 11. The Bible is the word of God.
Just one more thing, of the Jews, God says (and I quote) “.. . I will bless those who bless you and I will curse him who curses you; and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed..” (Genesis 12:3).
I seek only to correct you in kindness – and all who have believed what you have written, with the true word of God as is written in His word.
In all kindness there is no such place in the scriptures – Greek and Hebrew manuscripts – that teach of a “eternal torment in flames.” The popular mistranslations – KJV and others do mention “hell” and “for ever” but are these words correct? Hell is mentioned 23 times in the NT. In these 23 instances the word hell comes from three different Greek words – Gahenna, hades, and tartaroo. Gahenna was the garbage dump just outside Jerusalem where over a million bodies were burned when Titus sacked Jerusalem in 70AD. If you go to Israel today Gahenna is a town park – yes you can visit hell in Israel : ) Hades, simply means “unperceived” it is the grave where the dead sleep waiting for their resurrection. Tartaroo is where the sinning angels are kept. When people die they are asleep in the grave – hades. There is no such word in the Greek or Hebrew that means “eternity.” When you read “for ever” in the KJV or some other translation the Greek word is “aion” which means “age’ the OT Hebrew equivalent is “olam.” in Jonah 2:6 Jonah was in the belly of the great fish “for ever” but we know from reading Jonah 1:17 that Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for three days! So what gives! The Hebrew word is Olam. The duration of the word is taken from the context, in Jonah’s case three days. How can someone go into “everlasting Punishment” in Mt. 25:46 when death is abolished in Rev. 20:14? What about Jude 1:7 where it is said that Sodom is suffering the vengeance of “eternal fire?” Then Ezekiel says in 16:55 that Sodom will return to their former estate? It is because the KJV “mistranslation” got it wrong. The Greek and Hebrew manuscripts are clear there is no place in all of scripture (not translations but manuscripts) where people go to a place called “hell” “for ever.” It they did then Jesus is not the savior of the WORLD (cosmos, the universe) 1 John 4:14, John 1:29, Jn. 4:42, and that He was a ransom for ALL. 1 Tim. 1:15 and 2:6.
Except there is neither Jew nor Gentile, anonymous, and if hell is…
“… the place where all unbelievers will go. A place of complete separation from God and from all that He is and represents – for eternity.”
… then your god is not perfect.
Neither God’s judgments nor man’s torment are eternal, but age-abiding (aionian), and there is an end to both for the perfect God has always had a wonderful plan for every soul…
https://www.godfire.net/112_reasons.html
… as these 112 passages attest.
anonymous;
Jesus is NOT “God the son”, as no God the son exists. Jesus is GOD’S ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. God’s SON. Get it? Jesus NEVER SAID that the grave (hell) is the place where unbelievers go, you just made that part up. God Himself said He never even thought to torture anyone, dead or alive. The scriptures ALSO teach that we DO NOT HAVE AN IMMORTAL SOUL. That is a pagan belief inserted into Christendom by a PAGAN EMPEROR in 325 a.d. A LOT of your beliefs are pagan, so you are NOT Christian by a long stretch.
anonymous, I believe what most people are referring to is the idea of a hell fire where a person literally burns for eternity. At least that is what I was taught from childhood on. But just thinking on it from a logical and merciful standpoint eternal burning doesn’t really make sense. Take the most evil human ever existed and he/she burns for a trillion years, (which would be unimaginable torture), then what, they burn another trillions years and so on? At some point it would become pointless. By then, I would think even the most hard-hearted would be crying for mercy for the damned to just put them out of their misery already and destroy them.
Finally, to think our Creator who is very merciful would allow such a hideous form of continual torture is unthinkable in my mind. If you’ve ever simply burned the tip of your finger on a match and felt how painful it was, then think about your whole body burning that way for infinity, just boggles my mind.
Yes, hell may be a dark abyss where no evidence of our Creator is anywhere, but the hell fire damnation I believe was created and pushed by the Catholic Church to keep people fearful and in line.
Please cite proof when making such statements. Please read Romans 9 then tell me He is finished with Israel.
It appears that if God chose one nation to be His representatives on Earth, some believe that to be partiality. That’s rediculous. It seems that in other words, ALL should be His representatives on Earth. That’s even more rediculous. Only one nation can represent Him. IF all represented Him, to whom would they represent Him? No one would be left.
ACTS 10:34 At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial, 35 but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
Does this sound like partiality?
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matthew 24:36
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4
For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 2 Peter 1:16
And her prophets have smeared whitewash for them, seeing false visions and divining lies for them, saying, “Thus says the Lord GOD,” when the LORD has not spoken. Ezekiel 22:28
And the Lord said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds.” Jeremiah 14:14
I did not send the prophets, yet they ran; I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied. Jeremiah 23:21
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:18-19
“The twenty fourth day of the ninth month is stated no less than four times in the last chapter of the Book of Haggai, and it is precisely outlined by Haggai as “the” day to prophetically watch for.”
This makes the failed 9/22-24 prophecy sound like a misinterpretation.
Well, there are many prophecies that still have to come to pass before the 6th of December. Such as the rapture, the Second Coming, the battle of Armageddon, the Millennial Reign of Jesus the Messiah. So my guess is that this particular prophecy may have been written by “The Accuser”, or someone who didn’t want the truth printed in the Bible, or the Torah.
Israel,
I quickly skimmed your site and I will begin to study your work.
But please answer these questions ;
Do you understand the 7 Holy Days of Leviticus 23 to be God’s Plan of salvation?
Do you understand the reason for the two calendar?
The Sacred year is salvation: and begins on the first day of Nisan.
The Civil year is judgment/punishment: and begins on the first day of Tishri.
Last; Is Manasseh America and Great Britain Ephraim?
If you understand these things I would love to talk, I have kept the Holy Feasts and the Sabbath day since 1969.
Do you also under stand it is possible it is the 40th Jubilee since the death of the Messiah ?
I believe this 50th year Jubilee is a stand alone year separating two 7 years of release. The beginning of the next 7 years of punishment (Lev. 26: 13 -39), it this is so, will begin 7/1/2016. And it may be the 4th Period of punishment.
WHAT WHAT!!! Then surely you know Judah is to be revealed soon! because as Ephraim falls, SO TOO IS A HARVEST APPOINTED FOR JUDAH! I am from Benjamin, Wolfpack from the North we are many and we are aware, our axes are sharp and out hatred is GREAT. Part of the cull of Judah, is REVENGE for that incident back in the day where they killed us down to 600. Now they will lose 2/3.
BEHOLD THE SEAL, for only YOU will understand this, JUDAH will be HARVESTED soon, in a MASSIVE GENOCIDAL SLAUGHTER. and this will occur because they chose the whoring of epharim, they choose baal. BEHOLD OLD MAN, FOR YOU KNOW .
DEATH TO JUDAH! THE RISE OF BENJAMIN IS AT HAND! a remanant shall remain however, and from the fires of purification, shall Judah and Benjamin arise again! a SACRIFICE OF 2/3 of The Tribe Judah! THIS IS THE LESSON THE WORLD WILL KNOW. KIN-SLAYER WALKS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lgi9tklIiw
The slaughter is SOON. The Lesson to be given, “they did not listen, so we killed 2/3″
Captain Spaulding;
You appear to be a very sick person. You really should seek professional help. At the least, stop interacting with any other people in any way whatsoever. You are deranged.
Do not waste your time: But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matthew 24:36
It can happen Today or in 1.000 years!
Get at least a little prayer book and pray every day!
This is not complicate and will help you a lot to get in heaven.
http://www.amazon.com/Fortes-Fide-Church-Militant-Prayer/dp/0615746195/ref=pd_sim_14_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41uj-0lBgUL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR107%2C160_&refRID=04VEHG2JH9K1TQVAX6PK
Where in scripture does it offer you (or any other human) a place IN heaven?
Jesus says he is the way, the truth and the life of the World, No man can get to the Father except through Him. It is through the atonement of Jesus dying on the cross for our sins that allow for our salvation. Without that there is no way we can ever get to Heaven, also he said that man will never get into Heaven unless he be of flesh and bone, (no blood), therefore we must have glorified bodies to enter into Heaven. There are many many places that Jesus said how to get into Heaven. You should read and find them. Rather than just remain ignorant and display it to everyone. You sound like you need to be saved. Jesus loves you, it is the sin He dislikes. So do not be afraid to ask him, after you read the Bible. That’s a great place to start.
P.s. Hope to see you at the wedding celebration.
klemens
the free gift of God is eternal life — not life in heaven. If you can find one scripture stating we go or anyone goes to heaven — you will be the first to do so.
John 14:1-3 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
2 Corinthians 5:6-8 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
Acts 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Acts 7:55-56 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Revelation 6:9-11 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
Hebrews 12:22-23 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Hebrews 11:13-16 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
Philippians 1:21-23 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose. But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better.
John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Let me caution all. Believing in a false depiction of Jesus Christ, the purpose God the Father created him, or even God’s plan which does not include man ascending to Heaven or descending to hell is not what is being said.
Believing in Christ means believing in what he said while he was here not merely acknowledging that he existed. That will get you nowhere. Those who choose NOT to love and obey God in a way He approves, but rather choose to worship the doctrine of harlot or an entity of their own imagination always use John 11:26 to assure themselves of the reward of salvation that will never be theirs until they change and repent for their idolatry.
Don’t be fooled by the doctrine of the harlot. What you believe is real important. The Church of God PKG or Preparing for the Kingdom of God is where you can find help should you desire truth.
OVER & OUT
Truthseeker;
The holy spirit annointed 144,000 go to heaven, but no one else. Revelation tells all about it.
Rev 7:9 After this I saw a vast crowd, too great to count, from every nation and tribe and people and language, standing in front of the throne and before the Lamb. They were clothed in white robes and held palm branches in their hands.
A vast crowd too great to count.
ALTHOUGH The Lord told us that not everyone who says “Lord,Lord” will make it, and there will be a whole bunch of US [maybe me] who think we can say; “Jesus Old Friend Ole Buddy” WHO WILL NOT MAKE IT, still there is no doubt that EVERY NATION & Tribe will be represented, maybe billions, who knows?
Reformed;
The “vast crowd” is the great crowd, the great flock. Those who associate with and support the still living remnant of the holy spirit annointed 144,000. They, and the annointed, are the ONLY ones on Earth who do God’s ENTIRE will that He has laid out for us. No one from any religion does His entire will. Certainlyl no one from any other part of the societies of the world do His will. No governments or armies do. None who are “part of the world” do His will. Only the great crowd. Since the scriptures DO say that all sects are “works of the flesh”, it’s a cinch that they’re not part of the great crowd. They’re Babylon the Great along with governments and those ruining the Earth. Your take on scriptures is VERY skewed by your false religion Reformed. Abandon religions and grab a copy of the scriptures and study ONLY them. IGNORE what religions teach as they all lie, and always have, no exceptions. The great crowd, by the way, does NOT see heaven, ever. They will be protected through the tribulation and final battle, and shall never see death. They will live forever in a paradise Earth. Only the annointed see heaven, as they co-rule Earth for the thousand years, with Jesus, the King of the Kingdom. They rule Earth FROM HEAVEN. Whom would they rule if all went to heaven? Since the scriptures also teach CLEARLY that we don’t have an immortal soul, we CANNOT go to heaven, and a hell if fiery torment is FICTION.
This view of Matthew 24:36 is a common mis-perception – in Greek the verb is PAST tense (no one knew then)
Nothing rules out knowing later, but many verses expects to know:
“Concerning that day and the hour no one hath known.” Matthew 24:36 (Young’s Literal Translation)
“For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known.” Luke 8:17
“These words are concealed and sealed up until the end time.” Daniel 12:9
“If you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come.” Revelation 3:3
“But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief.” 1 Thessalonians 5:4
The article above is absolutely correct in expecting a pole shift to start on the 24th of Kislev. The pole shift will last a week from December 21-28, 2019.
End Times and 2019
You are good!
Daniel SAID; “The WISE will understand” and Paul said that WE [True Believers] will NOT be taken by surprise as by a thief in the night.
We also have; “the fig tree.”
I think True Believers will begin to accurately narrow things down to maybe a few months window.
Only, NO ONE will be able to say; “Hey 6 a.m. Saturday, I’m OUTTA HERE
!!!
7/1/2016 ?? Sorry I was pointing to the First of Tishri i.e The Feast of Trumpets,
Actually, ugh… I’m busy on that day and there’s really no way to change my schedule so this “End Day” is just going to have to be postponed. Sorry ’bout that folks. Chive on! Before its news will keep everyone up to date on the next End Moment in history. Watch for it.
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If you speak with Glenn Canady, you’ll just have to take his word for it on a possible date, as he won’t let you get a word in.
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Absolute nonsense as usual unless of course the Zionists have planed it. Nothing to with God.
From the article:
“The prophet Zechariah, Haggai’s contemporary, states in detail that Zerubbabel was not a final prophetic product, but was a foreshadowing figure symbolic of a coming king who would be involved in the final restoration of the Temple.”
Yes, Zerubbabel as spoken of in Zechariah is representative of one of the two olive trees before the LORD. He will shoot up out of his place and build the temple of the LORD. He is also one and the same as the one before the LORD in DAN 7:13-14 and he is the man child in REV 12:5. For more, see:
“The MYSTERY OF GOD in the BOOK OF REVELATION: The Two Witnesses, the Manchild, and the Destroyer as you have never heard them spoken of before.”
/prophecy/2014/02/the-mystery-of-god-in-the-book-of-revelation-the-two-witnesses-the-manchild-and-the-destroyer-as-you-have-never-heard-them-spoken-of-before-2458894.html
Jesus is of the lineage of Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel.
Bless you. Would you like a Kleenex?
A kleenex?
I tried to pronounce the names you cited, and it sounded like a sneeze. Thought I’d be a gentleman, and offer you a tissue.
According to an excellent video about decoding a crop circle referencing the arrival of Nibiru, December 6th was the first day the “Winged Destroyer” would become visible in the sky to the naked eye.
Imagine being in a place where only thought of the whole could
get you all free,not bombs,no violence only what you feel and when
enough feel this way you break out.It must be or you will not be.
To be rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
qikq
People like John Hagee, Sid Roth, Stephen Wynatch, Pat Robertson, Kenneth Copeland, Oral Roberts, Billy Graham. They have one thing in common. They want your money. Even their own apostles and prophets admit a prayer to Jesus won’t save you. (After they lure you in with it.) They want easy money, to not have to work a REAL job like the rest of us. Curse them.
Their family losses and tragedies give them the excuse to screw life over for the rest of us.
And these predictions have always been wrong. Yet Christians keep following the next prediction over and over.
kyrie;
A prayer to Jesus? One should NEVER pray to ANYONE except God the Almighty.
It’s God not G-d, why is one afraid of God? He is my God not my G-d.
The fear of God is the beginning of knowledge.
mfritz0;
Fear of God means fear of displeasing Him, NOT fear of using His title, God. It seems all have a fear of using His NAME, which is Jehovah. That’s why they use a translation that has ELIMINATED His divine name 7,000 times from it’s text. It’s been replace with lord and God. Using such a translation, and NOT using His name is a DIRECT INSULT to God.
GODS- PLURAL. THE GODZ ARE ROCK N ROLL MACHINES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FRATeocV2I
EVEN THE JEALOUS HEBREW GOD TOLD YOU THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER GODZ AND HE IS JEALOUS OF THEM, BECAUSE IS A CRY BABY JEW AND DOESN’T WANT YOU WORSHIPING THEM.
AllRoads;
You truly are a fool. Jehovah God said have no other gods before Him. He didn’t acknowledge that those other gods are real in that verse. Later in the scriptures, He indicated that they are all false and make believe. Fictitious. Pagan. NOT REAL.
AllRoads;
Don’t think for one minute that Jesus is/was God, because he never was. He is God’s SON. God is, and has never been a Jew or anything else, since He has no physical body you moron. Nor is Jesus a Jew, but as a human for 33 years he WAS. He no longer has that physical body either, and IS NOT A JEW or anything else, but a mighty spirit person, as his Father, God the Almighty, Jehovah.
Jehovah does not want anyone abandoning Hiim and worshiping things that don’t exist, such as any other “god”. It’s to their detriment. Worshiping Jehovah has more blessings and benefits than can ever be counted, including the ability to attain eternal life in perfect health in a paradise Earth. Worshiping make believe gods means death. So your stupid claim of “cry baby Jew” is nothing more than your own extreme ignorance AND stupidity showing through.
Mike, you are exactly right. Holy Father is no Trinity. He is One Alone. Yahshua was/is His Son. Too many in the Christian religion follow the pagan-Catholic trinity line used by the Latin Vulgate which is a terrible translation of the Bible btw.
The God of Abraham … like you state … says things very plainly and easy to recognize …
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Proverbs 30:4 >
“Who hath ascended up into Heaven, and descended ? What is the name of His Son, if thou knowest ?”
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Sophonius 3:8 >
“Expect Me, saith the Lord, in the day of My resurrection that is to come … to gather the kingdoms.”
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Daniel 9:26
“Christ shall be slain: and the people that shall deny Him shall not be His.”
Much more > http://www.Gods-Catholic-Dogma.com/section_2.3.html
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And … in all languages … so there are no “language games” …
Catholic Faith (pre-fulfillment) writing of Psalm 18:2, 4-5 >
2: “The heavens shew forth the glory of God, and the firmament declareth the work of His hands.”
4: “There are no speeches nor languages, where their voices are not heard.”
5: “Their sound hath gone forth into all the earth: and their words unto the ends of the world.”
Mike;
You DO realize that the Catholic Church is NOT Christian, but is Christendom, don’t you? It’s pagan, false, and destined for destruction, along with ALL sects/denominations. All of them with no exceptions.
Successful deception … keeping you from Heaven … are the stunning lies against Catholic Dogma.
Lies by a heretic cult … pretending and claiming to be the Catholic Church since 8 December 1965.
Undeniable proof including photographic > > > http://www.Gods-Catholic-Dogma.com
Catholic writing of Romans 9:27 >
“If the number … be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved.”
Catholic writing of Saint James 2:10 >
“Whosoever shall … offend in one point, is become guilty of all.”
Right on!
The reason the so-called “wisdom” in the above article has never put in print before is because it’s worthless antichrist propaganda that pays no homage to the King of Prophets, Jesus Son of Mary.
Christ, as the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, wrote the Bible through His prophets.
Anyone who doesn’t believe this can ask Christ Himself when He and His Angels visit the earth during the Three Days of Darkness which is coming shortly after the building of a temple to Satan on Mt. Moriah in Jerusalem.
FACEPALM
louis
So now Jesus Christ is no longer the Son of GOD??? He is just the son of a dead human women??
You saw it coming. We all did.
Louis;
You have just proven that you have absolutely no idea what the inspired word of God says. You are making it up as you go.
You do know that the temple to satan is ALREADY ON Mt. Moriah!!!! DON’T YOU???
louis
sorry! your first statement PROVES just how -”badly”- your priest have instructed you!
Jesus Christ gathered 120 together on the Feast of First Fruits/Pentecost that would be the first to receive the Holy Spirit of the Father poured out on them from heaven thus converting them. They were the very first Christians begotten into the FATHER’s Ecclesia. It is the Father’s Church, not Peter’s. AND — there were no pope’s and no priest’s for at least 150 to 200 years —none!!!!
All Christ had was the LAW and the Prophets and the writings —- nothing else.
I wonder who set up the church at gentile Rome??
And just how did Christ teach them??? All knowledge and wisdom came by the Torah, the first 5 books of what we call the Old Testament. “The LAW and the Prophets” prophesied extensively concerning the Coming of Jesus and what He was coming to do.
Then over the next 1500 or so years the tiny flock of Saints had a few of the letters but the Torah and the Prophets and the Writings were with the Jews.
Do you not know — your priests your pope would not allow anyone but the priesthood to own a Bible. THUS the Church of God grew by studying the Torah and what we now call the Old Testament.
While I am here let me ask this question, who is the father of Christ? The Father or the ghost?
It was the Holy Spirit that over showed Mary and anyway doesn’t that make Christ the father of himself??
Jesus said that no one knows the day and the hour, but the father. If the Hebrew scriptures contained the information indicating the day and the hour, then Jesus would be a liar, and so would his Father. Since neither God nor Jesus can lie, then the Hebrew scriptures do NOT indicate the exact day of the end. It’s quite impossible.
Ummm no. ONLY GOD the FATHER knows the exact day and hour.
You are very wrong here!
What about Mrs. God? Do you think she knows or was the hebrew god vain, jealous, discriminatory, a baby killer and a gay or celibate hebrew god all wrapped unto into ONE?
AllRoads;
Mrs. God? You’re apparently nuts. God isn’t a name, it’s a title, and God has no wife.
Which god Mike? “god is a title’ – now that is nuts.
AllRoads;
Nuts? No, if you think God is God’s name, you’re nuts. He is God, His name is Jehovah, and He wants us all to use His name. He commanded it. Not usiing it is an insult to God. You said “which God?”. Only one exists. Any other god is made up, fictitious, not real, and it’s invented by those whom Jehovah God created. So asking which God is an indication that you don’t believe Jehovah God is the one and only real, living God who created all.
Savage
His name is Jehovah, and He wants us all to use His name. He commanded it.
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Like all them dudes in the Bible done did
I dear you to use it!
Cleareyes;
I think you meant DARE, not DEAR.
Either BIN ‘s site is screwed up or they censor! To many website recovery, and post missing sucks!
Cleareyes;
What does that mean? Your comment doesn’t make any sense. Please re-state it correctly.
Thank you, Israel and Jehoshua, for recounting the exceptional convergence of Hebraic dates and events that have recently occurred and stirred widespread interest and hope in Bible prophecy- and which continue on apace!
This hurting world could sure use an imminent imposition of God’s latter-day Prophetic, Loving, Redemptive and Righteous purposes upon it- especially his repentant, praying, hoping, believing, poor, grieving, meek, hungering, thirsting, merciful, pure, peacemaking, persecuted and reviled children (2Chronicles 7:14; Matthew 5:3-12).
I’m hoping together with you for Righteousness, Salvation and Praise to imminently break forth from Zion and Jerusalem (Isaiah 62), to bless and save all who will believe and receive the God of Love, Redemption and Creation.
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely (Revelation 22:17).
But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer (1 Peter 4:7).
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive (Matthew 21:22).
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them (Deuteronomy 30:19-20).
Amen
If even the Messiah doesn’t know the date, how can YOU claim to know it?
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37 For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. (NASB)
You will be judged for your false teachings on Yom Kippur — but not from the Masoretic (Babylonian) calendar you use in which the fourth month is named for the Babylonian deity Tammuz! The Most High’s calendar was discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Shema, Yisrael!
http://www.haderech.info/DSS/Calendar/QumranCalendar.pdf
And you will not be judged on Yom Kippur for worshipping ‘ – according to some – ‘Tammuz’ along with those who ‘have a month possibly named after him’ why?
The 24th of Kislev in 2016 is December 24th, on Christmas Eve could work with regard to the fate of the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.
“And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.” Rev 11:9-10
If destroyed on Christmas Eve it could be 3.5 days over Christmas giving gifts before they were buried.
“The information I am about to put forth has never been put into print to my knowledge. It is groundbreaking information pulled from the pages of the Hebrew Prophets…”
Why don’t you start with the knowledge of knowing what the he11 you’re talking about.
This Jew doesn’t know what he is talking about.
The Davidic King line has never ceased and has been continuous, moving three times and was transferred from the Pharez line to the Zarah line healing the breach of the two twins.
The kingship line rest with Queen Elizabeth at this time and will remain until the Messiah returns to claim it.
PEOPLE FROM “EAST” THINK ABOUT “START”
BUT PEOPLE FROM “WEST” THINK ABOUT “END”
THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US,
FROM MANY DAYS,MONTHS,YEARS HEARD ONLY “END” WORD FROM YOU
The conclusion of my research is that December 28, 2019 is Judgment Day
End Times and 2019
Antichrist 2016-2019: Mystery Babylon, Barack Obama & the Islamic Caliphate
david,
What has God ever done of great importance that was not done on one of God’s Holy Feast Days?
Christ was sacrificed on Passover, the preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread
The Children of Israel left Egypt on the First night of the Feast of Unleavened Bread
The Law was given on the Feast of First Fruits
The Church was began on the Feast of First Fruits
Christ was born on the First Day of the Feast of Tabernacles
Christ was circumcised on the Last Great Day — the 8th Day.
David your research is way way off.
I think Christ’s Second Coming will also be on the Feast of Tabernacles – October 14, 2019.
Starting on December 21, 2019 – on the 24th of Kislev, just as this article says – I expect a week long pole shift corresponding to a wedding in the sky, in which the sun, moon, and planets “act out” all the major steps of an ancient Jewish wedding ceremony. This will overlap the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah, the feast of re-dedication of the newly cleansed Temple/Earth. The sun symbolically represents Christ, the Earth is the bride, etc – works out perfectly, climaxing with the end of the heavenly wedding and earthly pole shift on Judgment Day, December 28, 2019 – exactly 75 days after (think 1260, 1290, 1335) the Feast of Tabernacles.
Why say my research is way off if you haven’t read it? Those few who do read my books without non-step internally repeating “but Matthew 24:36 says…” inside their heads tend to get insight from my books.
“Concerning that day and the hour no one hath known.” Matthew 24:36 (Young’s Literal Translation)
“For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known.” Luke 8:17
“These words are concealed and sealed up until the end time.” Daniel 12:9
“If you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come.” Revelation 3:3
“But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief.” 1 Thessalonians 5:4
I think Daniel is finally unsealed and we can understand exactly where we are in the end times. For anyone interested:
End Times and 2019
Antichrist 2016-2019: Mystery Babylon, Barack Obama & the Islamic Caliphate
David Montaigne
The Feast of Tabernacles foreshadows the 1000 year reign of Christ.
the Feast of Trumpets is the day foreshadowing His return, When Christ returns HE comes as a Warrior KING coming to that Battle of that Great Day of GOD ALMIGHTY.
And what does the Trumpet blast announce. it is a call to war. Christ is coming back to slay His enemies.
The time of the end is found in Leviticus 26: 13 – 39. the time of the end is the last 7 year period of the 28 years of punishment.
Truthseeker;
Only one who hasn’t a clue as to what the scriptures say could possibly ask such a dumb question as “what has God ever done of great importance that was not done on one of God’s holy feast days?” The first important thing He did was to create His son, and then the universe, and then Earth, and then everything on Earth, and then mankind, and on and on and on.
mikesavage
that statement makes you an Antichrist.
The conclusion of my research is that is that David Montaigne is a ‘tard
My research got me to the same conclusion so it must be true.
And one makes 3.
David Montaigne;
You’re a fool.
Montaigne;
I don’t know what you’re using for research material, but you’re certainly not using the inspired word of God. That does mean that all of your research is nothing more than a waste of time and is totally useless.
I never take the word of a banker, twass money changers who paid to have the bible written just like they today finance films in Hollywood.
The only way these bankers are going to see god is if what they say about project blue beam is true and the white light will be a nuke going off over there heads.
Bankers are killing us with wars and they are killing the world due to poloution for the “must have profit today” greedy corporations that work as strings for these bankers.
shaddup, you terrorist scumbag.
Yet ANOTHER false teaching! Here is the truth:
The Return of Christ
Mark 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, 25 and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in [m]the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven.
28 “Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near. 29 Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that He is near, right at the door. 30 Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 32 But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.
33 “Take heed, keep on the alert; for you do not know when the appointed time will come. 34 It is like a man away on a journey, who upon leaving his house and [t]putting his slaves in charge, assigning to each one his task, also commanded the doorkeeper to stay on the alert. 35 Therefore, be on the alert—for you do not know when the master of the house is coming, whether in the evening, at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or in the morning— 36 in case he should come suddenly and find you asleep. 37 What I say to you I say to all, ‘Be on the alert!’” (NASB)
laschuetz;
NO, that’s not the truth regarding Jesus’ return. He returned exactly when the scriptures said he would.
laschuetz;
You see, the scriptures you cited refer to Jesus’ judgement and destruction of disobedient mankind, not his return as King. It’s referring to the final battle.
The restoration of the fig tree (Israel) never happened until the Jews recaptured Jerusalem in 1967.
The generation that witnessed this (many of us) will not pass away before Christ comes back.
A generation, according to the scriptures, is typically 70 years.
Which takes us to a MAXIMUM date of 2037.
Take off 3 and a half years for the judgement time of all the people of the Earth and this brings us to 2033.
So we have an absolutely MAXIMUM period of only 18 years before the revealing of the Son of perdition, horrific global persecution and total global war, widespread famine and proliferation of plagues and diseases consuming two thirds of the whole of mankind.
That’s 18 years people… OR LESS….!
If Christ comes back, you filthy Edomites will be top of the list for retribution.
The fig tree can not be restored or fruit taken from it ever again moron.
WHERE DO YOU PEOPLE GET THIS CRAPOLA?!
The Hitler Channel ‘prayer episodes’?
The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.”
Mathew 24
32 “Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near–at the doors! 34Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.
Repeated in Mark 13v28-30
This prophecy is explained with supporting scriptures in the link below:
http://www.pray4zion.org/TheBuddingoftheFigTree.html
James Glover
No. Israel was destroyed in the 8th century BC
It was resurrected in the generation alive in Jesus’ day – when Jesus was.
Man’s living death in Adam saw him TRY to clothe himself in the leaves of the fig tree (the tree of knowledge of good and evil). You are trying to hide your shame and guilt in the same man centered first Adam way.
God twice corrected mankind by giving him the skin of the lamb to protect himself within.
nobody knows the day or hour…this means you too, bud
Matt 13;32 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
Day or the hour, no…..
Approximate month and year, yes.
God does nothing before first revealing it to His faithful servants: Amos 3v7
That’s right even before killing all the egyptian male babies.
James Glover;
NO, you are quite incorrect.
Are those two Edomite catamites at it again.
Get your greasy euro jew hands and you shiny euro jew foreheads out of here.
jdp…If what was said about the Hebrew scriptures is true the Jesus told a lie that only the father in heaven know the hour of his return, no not the angels in heaven nor man but the Father only, so the one telling what the Hebrew text says is mistakenly wrong, can’t have both ways.
Thank you for the very informative blog.
The Book Haggai has something in common with the Book Daniel. We are aware of Daniels 70th week, lasting 7 years. It says in the middle of the week or after 3½ years a statue will be erected at Jerusalem. From that time, Israel needs to be aware:
1260 days later the Lord will return for Israel on the ‘Day of the Lord.’ It will be on the 10th Nissan or Tisri. He will appear to them on the Mount of Olives. The remnant who did call on the Name Jehovah, are told to flee to Petra as all of Israel will be plundered.
1290 (1260 + 30) days later, Christ will reappear to Israel on the mountain of Hor, (Petra) and they will notice His wounds and realize they did crucify the Lord Jesus. The wounds will convince them! 30 days later, with the Lord in their midst, they will feast the Passover culminating with the feast of the Tabernacles.
1335 (1260 +30 + 45) days on the 25th of the 3rd or the 9th month, Israel will journey with Christ from Petra along the king’s highway to establish His Kingdom at Jerusalem. It will frustrate the work of Satan who is seated at Babylon.
The 1335 days following the erection of the statue, is an important date for Israel. On that day Israel will march from Petra to take possession of Jerusalem. They will march along the kingly highway. Once they enter Jerusalem, they will need to purify the land. Ezek. 39:12 The spoiled armoury will be burned as energy. Ezek. 39:9 If we attempt to find a corresponding date to the 1335 days (25th of the 3rd or 9th month) in the Old Testament, we need to study Haggai the prophet. Five times in the Book Haggai we read of ‘from the 24th of the 9th month, from that day forth’: From that day the Lord will bless Israel in their own country Israel.
‘As yet the vine, the fig tree, the pomegranate, and the olive tree have not yielded fruit. But from that day I will bless you.’ Haggai 2:19
On the ‘day of the Lord’ the land was plundered, but they will re-establish their borders with Christ, and the earth will yield its fruit.
Yeah sure, and the jealous hebrew god that is jealous of all other godz- finished the universe a long time ago- NOT. What a joke- it is still expanding and being ‘created’ right now and new suns are being born and dying all of the time. Just so mind boggling stupid. The hebrew writer’s vain, jealous, favorite playing and first born male egyptian killer hebrew god of israel- is still ‘creating’ an endless universe with billions upon billions of galaxies just like our ‘own little ghetto – the milky way’ with trillions of planets, but is only going to use this one. Nword please! What a joke.
If I remember right Mr harold camping’s predictions where based on the bible to and we all know what happened to his predictions.
There is no God there never was a God there never will be a God. Grow up you childish religious morons!
carribbean critic;
You are of course completely wrong in your assertion, but by the time you realize how wrong you are, it will be too late for you.
Daniel in Dan 12:10 says; “…………… But the wicked will continue in their wickedness, and none of them will understand. Only those who are wise will know what it means.”
OR; “the wise will understand.”
This “idea” is repeated [or amplified if you prefer] by Paul in the NT.
Although I cannot set a timer for the “trumpet” I probably can easily say; “within __ to ___ years, we [EVERYONE] will hear the trumpet!