Jesus to The Church: Depart From Me I Never Knew You
The prophetic doom and gloom industry is a lucrative multi billion dollar a year business. A single Christian denomination can generate 4 billion dollars a year. Even a simple YouTube channel can generate enough income to supplement your income and eventually earn enough to quit your job.
The premise is simple. Through cataclysmic events at least a third of the earths population will suffer a violent death and it seems that we’re at that point and time according to bible prophecy.
Prophetic book sales are skyrocketing right now. A great investment if you have a church of your own. Today, there’s 40.000 different Christian denominations and plenty of room and money for more. The possibilities are endless.
Now, here’s the problem.
The Christian Community has ignored the true history behind the book of Revelation for over 1500 years and the question is why. Certainly Theology scholars are not prohibited from googling about the history of the book of Revelation right? or are they. A history that is available for all to see. The book of Revelation is a gold mine and your Church leaders will not be happy once the information you’re about to read goes out.
THE HISTORY
Historian Eusebius of Caesarea was commissioned by Roman Emperor Constantine and given the responsibility of creating the official Christian Bible and by 331 AD the first 50 bibles were created and delivered to the Churches of Constantinople. The Bibles did not contain the Apocalypse of John (Revelation).
Eusebius recorded the words of Dionysius, Bishop of Alexandria in the late 200′s AD claiming that Revelation was a forgery. There were other scholars and writers of the first three centuries who were also on record testifying in regards to the falsehood and authenticity of the book of Revelation and to the involvement of a gnostic Rabbi named Cerinthus .
A Christian sect called the Alogi stated that it was clear that Cerinthus was the true author of the book of Revelation after analyzing and comparing his writing style to that of Johns. According to the Catholic Encyclopidia Caius: “Additional light has been shown on the matter VI, p. 397″ Caius maintained that the Apocalypse of John was the work of the Gnostic Cerinthus”
Cerinthus, a man who was educated in the wisdom of the Egyptians, operated a school that followed and used the Gospel of Cerinthus. He denied that the Supreme God had made the physical world, and denied the divinity of Jesus. Cerinthus was a follower of the Zealot party, a group which had a strong political agenda. The Zealots taught that a military-political Messiah would soon appear to conquer the world and rule for a thousand years from Jerusalem.
This concept of millennialism was promoted during the second century by Montanus who according to historian Eusebius of Caesarea entered into an ecstatic state of convulsions (demon possession) and began prophesying that the New Jerusalem would shortly descend out of the clouds and land in a town called Phrygia thus becoming one of the first “Prophet” to predict when the end of the world would occur.
Montanus was a priest of the Oriental ecstatic cult of Cybele, the mother goddess of fertility. She was partially assimilated to aspects of the Earth-goddess Gaia. Her most celebrated Greek rites and processions show her as an exotic mystery-goddess who arrives in a lion-drawn chariot to the accompaniment of wild music, wine, and a disorderly, ecstatic following. Uniquely in Greek religion, she had a transgender priesthood.
This is the origin of the book of Revelation that the Roman Catholic church implemented into the bible canon. On August 28th of 397 AD at the Council of Carthage under the tutelage of the Bishop of Carthage with imperial and papal approval, issued a definitive canon (legal decree) of Scripture setting out all the texts that form what is now universally called “The Bible”. This canon has remained unchallenged for over a 1500 years.
Cerinthus’s Revelation became the script for the powers that be, bloodline of the serpent seed illuminati to execute their NWO depopulation agenda and crimes against humanity with minimum resistance from the Christian community.
God has denied their Luciferian prophetic time line and it will not come to pass. The doom and gloom industry is going out of business. God is now exposing all that is evil and corrupt on the earth. God is also exposing the Church for their pagan practices and for teaching a pagan Gospel.
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The book of Revelation is not the only place the end time prophesies are found. Almost all of the Old Testament prophets agree with time line in Revelation. Nice try though. You sound exactly like all the false prophets of Jeremiahs day.
We’ve all been duped. The Roman Empire confiscated all Christian literature after Christ’s death during the Christian persecution that lasted over 300 years so by the time the bible rolled out after the Council of Carthage in 397 AD they already knew about the 10 divided kingdoms of the toes in the story of Daniel which they created and implemented into the old testament.
CTrent 33 , we abandoned Him because we abide by the letter, not by the Spirit as we’re suppose to. If love reigns in your heart, God reigns in your heart.
No, if reading the Bible is the only way to salvation, and the Bible has been fake from the beginning ,then no one is “saved.” Ergo, in your stance, God has abandoned man 364 years after His Sacrifice on the Cross. Since the Bible is fake, why believe in Jesus at all?
P.S. I haven’t abandoned God. I adhere to Both Scripture and Tradition. Both of which were established by Christ, the Holy Ghost and His Apostles.
Trent is right, Mr. People.
You’ve walked yourself into a conundrum from which there is no escape.
Fortunately for the rest of us, we’re perfectly aware of all the Old and New Testament documentation WAY older than 397 AD, which proves conclusively that your argument about Scripture tampering is completely erroneous.
You really should study up on the history of the Bible and its transmission to us across the millennia. It sounds to me like you’ve been getting most of your information from one or two disreputable (Dan Brown friendly) sources.
Cerinthus Supremus, you speak many empty words but can never refute or rebuttal history. So you have nothing to stand on except for doctrines of men.
Am I here to do your homework for you, Mr. People?
Google New Testament Manuscripts and Papyri older than 397 AD.
Then get busy reading and soon come to the realization that there are many New Testament documents older than that date, with which we may readily compare those MSS which come after — those which, according to you, may have been altered.
And if not the New Testament but the Old, you’ll be interested in the Dead Sea Scrolls, which weren’t discovered until the 1940s. But again, when we compare those records, which are an average of 2350 years old, with more modern manuscripts, we see that your claim has no basis in fact whatsoever.
Nothing to stand on?
Doctrines of men?
Really?
Please do some real reading before you cement your position any further.
Cerinthus Supremus, I already covered that in the comments. How about you educate yourself a bit more and then make an informed comment before you spill any more empty words? I’ll be here all night. Take your time.
Cerinthus Supremus, ok, do you know who took control of the discovered dead sea scrolls? Once they were found, where did they end up at and who was in charge of their translation. Give me names and religious organization and who’s got them right now. I’ll be here all night.
Komorusan, er, Mr. People wrote:
“I already covered that in the comments.”
You did what now?
You said:
“The Roman Empire confiscated all Christian literature after Christ’s death during the Christian persecution that lasted over 300 years so by the time the bible rolled out after the Council of Carthage…”
But that’s patently absurd. What the Roman Empire, and later on the Church of Rome, did was to proclaim edicts outlawing personal possession of the Scriptures by any non-initiate laypeople. The efforts were met with the mildest form of success, however, because the Scriptures were in those days proliferating into the hands of millions and into hundreds of various languages.
“…do you know who took control of the discovered dead sea scrolls?”
Ahhh. So you’re going to claim now that the nefarious Joooooooez are to blame for toeing the Roman line in the 1940s? Are you about to claim, absent any evidence whatsoever, that the Dead Sea documents were all altered to reflect your asserted changes? Evidence, please.
And you’ll have this to contend with likewise – the plethora of Manuscript and Papyri evidence which was discovered between the Fourth Century and now, and discovered in various countries across the globe. Same problem. All of the evidence agrees – in the main – with the other evidence. There is no evidence of tampering of the kind you describe in your hypothesis.
“Give me names and religious organization and who’s got them right now. I’ll be here all night.”
It’s nice to see you’re patient. I’ll give you single name. James C. VanderKam: B.A., Calvin College, 1968; B.D., Calvin Theological Seminary, 1971; Ph. D., Harvard University, 1976.
Dr. VanderKam is the world’s premier expert on the Dead Sea Scrolls and has personally translated most of them – including the Great Isaiah Scroll, the Book of Jubilees and the Book of Enoch. His translations are all published. Where the scrolls are right now is less important than the facts that facsimile and photographic copies have been made of all the scrolls and disseminated widely, in addition to the fact that the authenticity of the original documents has been vouched for hundreds of experts still alive to this day. And many of the experts make themselves accessible to the curious and will take time to answer specific questions, as VanderKam has with me.
If you are working up the courage to assert that the DDS have been altered or corrupted…
…I will see your evidence right here.
(And why do you refuse to nest your commentary in the appropriate location?)
Cerinthus Supremus, well thank you, it didn’t take you long to get that information. Now tell me, what does the book of Jubilees, book of Enoch, Isaiah have to do with the book of Revelation? We can talk about those other books all you want, I’ve read them all but this article is not about the book of Enoch or Jubilees or Isaiah it’s about Revelation.
“…it didn’t take you long to get that information.”
I’m a rancher, friend. I have many things to do. My last post has so many editorial errors because I was in a hurry to publish it before I had to put the chickens to bed. A little slack, maybe?
You wrote:
“…what does the book of Jubilees, book of Enoch, Isaiah have to do with the book of Revelation?”
I would have thought I made that clear. VanderKam is an expert in all of them – the documents, that is. He isn’t a believer but he has vouched for the authenticity of the entire Qumran Library. But let’s do discuss the Book of Revelation. On May 3 of this year, I posted the following quote on another of your articles:
“I was thinking of asking Komorusan to fish out something specific from Revelation which he feels speaks contrary to the Word, but then I thought better of it.”
And now I’ll reverse that previous decision. For if, as you say, the Book of Revelation is a spurious construct, then it will naturally be filled with tidbits and factoids that contradict the Word of God. So I ask you now…
…what are they?
Cerinthus Supremus, this proves that you my friend are bound to the letter completely. You would never sacrifice any of your children even if an angel appeared to you, but you totally accept the premise that God will test us such as he did Abraham. You can Google info to defend the bible but ignore history and actual facts that may discredit it. That’s the difference between abiding by the letter and abiding by the Spirit of discernment.
“…this proves that you my friend are bound to the letter completely.”
I’ll take that as a compliment. I am something of a biblical apologist, after all.
“You would never sacrifice any of your children even if an angel appeared to you…”
Hell no I wouldn’t. I would know straight away what sort of ‘angel’ I was dealing with if ever one asked me to do such a thing. Evidently, you wouldn’t?
“…but you totally accept the premise that God will test us such as he did Abraham.”
Abraham’s faith was a lesson for all of us – thus it was recorded; memorialized in the written Word of God for our spiritual edification. But knowing, as we do now, that God’s instruction to Abraham was a shadow of that which was to come – there will not be any repeating it. Isaac lives. And so does God’s Son. Abraham was tested and we have been and will be likewise tested. But God will not be asking any of us to sacrifice our children. Moloch asks for such things.
“You can Google info to defend the bible but ignore history and actual facts that may discredit it.”
Actually, I make it my business to defeat (in debate) folks I see coming against the Bible, to feign discredit it. Because there aren’t any legitimate facts – historical or otherwise – that can discredit any jot or tittle of the Old or New Testament, as originally written. As much can be proven and has been.
“That’s the difference between abiding by the letter and abiding by the Spirit of discernment.”
You are mistaken. If you read the Word of God and find any portion of it to be wanting (save for the minor bits provably changed by scribes over the millennia), then it is you who abides in a state of confusion about the truth.
So will you or won’t you be posting a few examples of where Revelation goes wrong?
I’m just a lowly rancher, friend.
But I know the Word of God.
Care to put me to the test?
Cerinthus Supremus, the prove is in the pudding. You will never be able to prove me wrong on the facts of Revelations history as written in this article and you’ll never be able to discredit the historical facts on the video either. But the best prove you will ever have is that Revelations prophetic events have been denied by the Most High and will never come to fruition. Jesus is the Word. Our creator incarnate. Not a book. Close the book and come to Him.
“You will never be able to prove me wrong on the facts of Revelations history as written in this article…”
I didn’t see you mention anything about the debate held among the early church fathers, re Revelation. Furthermore, your assertion that Revelation was written by someone other than John, is just that: it is an assertion; it is an opinion – it is not a fact.
“…and you’ll never be able to discredit the historical facts on the video either.”
I don’t have time for videos right now. Nor do I have an interest. But I have plenty to dispute with you.
“But the best prove you will ever have is that Revelations prophetic events have been denied by the Most High and will never come to fruition.”
I see. So Revelation’s claim that the Beast System would employ total-control over commerce and finance, is false? You know the Bible tells us approximately when these things will happen. And if we consider that Revelation was written approximately 2000 years ago, and that it suggests no man will be able to buy or sell without he receive the mark of the Beast…
…and the only way to EVER achieve total control over commerce and finance would be with the imposition of a purely electronic (digital) monetary system…
…you mean to tell me you are not compelled by that?
Moreover the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, which are referenced elsewhere in Scripture, are biblically invalid according to you?
How about those who say they are Jews but are not? They are the Synagogue of Satan – according to the Word of God in Revelation. What was that… a lucky guess, I suppose?
The number of a man, whose number is six-hundred, sixty and six – this, likewise, conveys no meaning to you?
“Jesus is the Word.”
He is indeed, and He has spoken to us many important things in the Book of the Revelation which bares His name: It is The Revelation of Jesus Christ to John the Apostle.
“Our creator incarnate. Not a book.”
He who has ascended to Heaven in bodily form to sit at the right hand of The Father is also the Word and the Bible is the written Word. Your vision of the Scriptures is woefully insufficient.
“Close the book and come to Him.”
Without the Book, there is no coming to Him. Without the Book we would not know Him as He has revealed Himself to us and as He intends. His Word is sure and He swore He would protect His Word. He has been faithful to that promise and has transmitted His written Word to us across the millennia. Your detraction of the Scriptures is without merit.
It’s always “close the book and listen to me” with theses guys.
Generally, those are the same folks who claim personal revelation — which contradicts Scripture, or course.
And then arguments that Scripture has been perverted or tainted by the inclusion of counterfeit books, are not defended.
Open The Book, Komorusan. And learn it all to the best of your abilities.
That’s the only way you’ll find The King.
PS — and if you would ever like to discuss the legitimacy of Revelation, I would be happy to do so with you either here or offsite:
[email protected]
“It’s always “close the book and listen to me” with theses guys.”
Legal System busted (The BC Cross, BCCRSS) (check)
It’s illegal to use a legal name. (Lawful and Legal fact) (check)
The Holy Grail (found) (check)
The All Seeing Eye back on the Great PyramI.D. (check)
God is here in the flesh (check)
https://mineyebook.wordpress.com/2016/12/16/truth-just-is/
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Rev 22:19
Remember this passage when you stand before Jesus at your judgement Moron !!!