Mankind was meant to live forever. And we will. But not in this life, in the next life. The Bible says that compared to eternity, this life is very short, a few minutes compared to forever. “What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.” (1) Yet most people place so much value on this life compared to our next life.
The first man, Adam, lived 930 years. He would have lived forever, but he sinned, so God said “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” (2)
The tree of life was placed in the Garden of Eden for Adam and Eve to eat from so they could live forever. But after they sinned, had they eaten from that tree, they would have lived in their sin forever and there would have been no way for mankind to be redeemed. So God did him a favour by placing an angel to guard the way to the tree of life and drove Adam and Eve out of the garden. They would now live and die like the rest of us will.
The tree of life doesn’t show up again until the last book of the Bible, the Book of Revelation. “Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month.” (3) After the sin issue has been dealt with God creates a new heaven and earth. All those that have chosen to spend eternity with God will now live in this new heaven and earth with God. And they will eat from the tree of life. And that’s how we will live forever.
(1) James 4:14 (2) Genesis 3:22-24 (3) Revelation 22:1-2
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The complete opposite is true, nothing lives forever, there are no examples in nature of eternal anything. Without death there is no life. Everything is born, exists for a while and is then obliterated, the component parts eventually becoming something else. For example all matter is made of the components generated by exploding stars. With out their deaths there would be no matter in the universe. We are no exception. Believing you are going to live forever is extremely immature, because not existing is the sort of thing kids are scared of, ie oblivion, of nothing.
There wouldn’t be enough room for everyone if we didn’t die. Don’t be so selfish you would take the future away from our children and grandchildren by taking what is theirs. You religious types need to let go of your giant elitist egos and grow up.
You just contradicted yourself. If nothing last forever, where do the “component parts becoming something else” go? Matter and energy are eternal. They cannot be created or destroyed, according to modern science. The essence of the spirit (and, as I believe, the soul) are energy and our physical bodies (matter) decay into the energy of the spirit and soul and thus, live forever. The Higgs Boson particle is a clue on how that “matter from energy” occurs. It is the link to understanding how an atom which is 98% empty space and 2% physical “mass” can actually become manifest as solid matter. How the virtually mass-less sub-atomic particles can actually become something that occupies time/space as mass, weight, optical reflection/absorption, transfer of heat and energy and all the other aspects of the matter of our physical universe.
Anonymous,
You have mad a very fine point, but what Pix was referring to was the fact that most religious people see themselves as superior to nature and its limits. Of course Pix knows that matter and energy continue on in our physical Universe after death in some form or another. He was simply commenting on the fact that we really do know very little about our earth, our bodies, and the universe as a whole. To base your life around fairy tales that have been translated and regurgitated throughout the course of human existence is really the fundamental flaw that most humans experience.
Pix is devoid of Spiritual understanding – a dimension he/she cannot comprehend.
99.9999999999 actually.
the mass of matter is an illusion created by motion.
An excellent point wizard
wouldn’t it be quaint if when we die and break down into carbon atoms, etc… that our consciousness was just the mass sum of all the small consciousness of each atom?
our brain atoms could finally say hi to the atoms in the feet XD
Jesus proved hands down that their is life after death, and He has the world’s all time best seller to prove it.
He is known around the world for what He proved, he was not an anonymous comment on an internet forum.
Those who take the mark of the beast will lose their souls, they will not be living forever.
We do not complain about your shortcomings but about your long stayings.
Eternal life is the hope of believers. Sin takes away your hope and dreams. I want my sins removed.
Hope is not knowledge. Fallen angels have knowledge.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man sees, why does he yet hope for?
I can’t wait to rule and reign with Jesus for all time to come:
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
—Revelation 22
You will get no reward from God by sitting on your butt.
You have a responsibility to inform others of what is happening in our country, many are still unaware. It’s one thing to appreciate spirituality to let it make you strong and DO your PART to Inform and Connect with others, it’s another to sit on your butt yet expect a ‘reward’ from God. Do your part. Connect with others. I do not mean preach your bible chants, I mean help others get informed. God does not reward people who sit on their butts expecting others to do it all.
God hasn’t given us any reason to want to live forever. All any living person has seen is the beautiful earth he created filled with all the evil he has created against humans. God is not a friend to mankind, just a smiling enemy. Sorry, but the truth needs to be told and there it is in black and white.
Not true, many many people have been given tours of both heaven and hell, read some of their testimonies at http://www.spiritlessons.com
” 2 Timothy 4:4-And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned to fables.”
When you look at what the Bible said thousands of years ago, and you look at what is happening today…one cannot ignore it.
We are heading toward one world government…We have the technology to implant chips…The UN is formed… And, we have chips already tested and made…
The goat and sheep are easily recognized…They will hate the Christians..and proof is in the replies I read on every major site…
We come from stars? Where did they come from? Space cannot create something it never had to begin with…It had to come from somewhere…
To say we are the only beings in the entire space is laughable.
Who’s to say a spirit cannot live forever? Its not flesh, it doesnt need to replenish itself..
When you look at evolution, and how impossible it is to form millions of lifeforms out of pure mistake is insane. Evolution is the biggest fairytale I have heard…
Its obvious something made us and the world…
The Gov did a great job convincing millions of people to give up God and believe their plan…
When you look at history, the only thing that has survived is the Word of God….and it will be here long after the world is re-done…
The bankers families re-wrote the bible many times to fit their plans with today.
Spirituality is fine, in the right measure, but Never an excuse for failing to Do your part to Inform others and connect. Information is power, together we are stronger.
The Dead Sea Scroll discovery in 1947 proves the Bible to be everything opposite to the above statement. The Bible is accurate and God is just. Our archaeological record affirms Biblical history while the state of the world today confirms its destruction in the very near future.
WHY DOUBT A PERFECTLY GOOD BIBLE??? Have you not yet realized what world leaders are into?… Google the Bohemian Grove and then try to believe what the scientists that are paid by them want to make you believe through their theories…or just take everything media propogates as fact… THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT IS TERRORIZING BY ALL MEANS AVAILABLE TO THEM…
YOU HAVE TO PROTECT YOURSELVES FROM THEM!!! IT IS GOING TO BECOME ALL THAT THE BIBLE SAYS THE BEAST OUT OF THE LAND TO BE… They are setting up a global dictatorship through the antichrist system of papal rome…
ALSO GOOGLE “FEMA CAMPS” AND REALIZE THAT ALMOST EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE FOR THE COLLAPSE OF THE AMERICAN DOLLAR.
Why do you put a picture of a long haired homosexual up and call that – Jesus Christ??
The Creator God of all that is Created, Jesus Christ is Spirit, no longer human, why do you look back? Moses came down from the mountain reflecting Christ’s Power the people could not even look at Moses, he blinded them with the “reflected” power of God.
Most of you try to understand the Word of God all by yourselves. Without the Father’s Spirit, His Holy Spirit in you, the Bible is mass confusion to the mind of man and can not be understood, no matter how smart you think you are. The Bible is revealed knowledge, only.
Man has always limited God to the physical and the mind of man can never understand the things of God, Spirit!
The resurrection to life, Eternal Life, can not be understood by a physical human made of dust. Ever seen the box holding a cremated person? That is you.
Ask, see if our Father will allow you to see His Plan?
The Bible teaches THREE RESURRECTIONS
FIRST RESURRECTION is the Resurrection to life. (To Spirit)
John 5: 28, 29 – Marvel not at this for the hour
is coming in the which all that are in the graves
shall hear His voice.
And shall come forth; they that have done good
unto the resurrection of life.
Hebrews 11: 35 —that they might obtain a
better resurrection.
Rev. 20: 6 Blessed and Holy is he that hath
part in the first resurrection
SECOND RESURRECTION is the Resurrection to judgement. (To flesh)
Rev 21: 5 but the rest of the dead lived not
again until the thousand years were finished.
That time is call The Last Great Day, the 7th feast of God’s
Holy Feast days and the White Throne Judgment.
Rev. 21: 13 and the sea gave up the dead
which were in it: and death and hell (grave)
delivered up the dead which were in them and they
were judged every man according to their works.
(Judged over a 100 yr. time period, not past life.)
Ezekiel 37 Dry bones, resurrected back to flesh
THIRD RESURRECTION is the Resurrection of damnation. (To flesh)
John 5: 29 – and they that have done evil unto
the resurrection of damnation.
Rev 21: 15 and whosoever was not found written in
the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part
in the first resurrection; on such the second
death hath no power.
Acts 24: 15 –that there shall be a resurrection of the dead,
both of the just and the unjust.
There is no ever burning hell, the Lake of Fire takes you back
to dust. You cease to exist for ever.
The lake of fire does not bring those in it back to dust. They are in torment forever and ever:
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
—Revelation 14
First, to be tormented for ever one must be immortal. The message of the Bible is “The soul that sins – it shall die” no one is immortal. Period, that was given us by the catholic church.
Now to verse 10, the Wrath of God is the 6th and 7th Seal which is poured out on the Beast Power and the entire world. some of God’s Wrath in the 7th Seal (6th Trump) is fire and brimstone from heaven, see Rev.9:17-18, a third part of men were killed by fire and brimstone.
verse 11, the smoke of torment ascends nothing else, God’s Angels killed them with fire and brimstone. and those who worship the beast ect will have no rest day nor night during time of the Wrath of God. This is God’s anger on Gentiles and the entire world — at the return of Christ 90% of the 7 billion alive today will be dead.
Scripture was designed to twist men into knots, why do you think they are 4000 flavors of churches. 4000 twisted men and women that do not have the Spirit of the Father sold them to man.
To understand scripture every word must be looked at and must be matched with others.
You said those in the lake of fire have no rest during the time of God’s wrath. Not true. Again, here is the verse:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night,
They will have no rest day or night, forever and ever.
Where is the lake of fire mentioned?
The problem is you are not aware of how the end times is ordered.
The Wrath of God last for one year, vs 10 is telling you that God is pouring out His wrath on those that worship the beast, his image and received his mark. Then in Rev 9:17 it shows a third part of men(that worship the beast) will be killed by fire and brimstone, that is what is described in vs 10 any that worship the beast will be tormented to death with fire and brimstone and the two thirds that remain for the rest of the Wrath of God will have no rest day or night until they die in the Battle of that Great Day of God Almighty.
Here is a list showing the order of events during the 3 1/2 years of the End Times
The Period of the End Times
3 1/2 years: 42 months: 1260 days: The time, times and half time.
Within this time period of 3 ½ years occurs the following:
All five events below begin at the 5th Seal and continue for the 3 ½ years:
1 The Time of Jacob’s Trouble
2 The Time of the Gentiles
3 The Two Witnesses will have power.
4 The time given to the Beast Power to rule
5 The time given to the Beast Power to make war and overcome the Saints
(The Saints will be on earth for the full 3 ½ yrs.)
The Fifth Seal – First 2 ½ years of the 3 ½ years
The Great Tribulation is the 5th Seal, lasting 2 ½ years
The Sixth Seal – The last year of the 3 ½ yrs.
The 6th Seal begins *The Wrath of God & continues one year
The 6th Seal begins The Day of the Lord & continues one year
The 6th Seal begins The Day of Judgment & continues one year
A day for a year= one year for the “Day of the Lord”
The Seventh Seal – Begins after the 6th Seal and ends at the end of the 3 ½ yrs.
The 7th Seal holds the 7 Trumps:
The 7th Trump (of the 7) is: (is the Last Trump)
The 7 Last Plagues: begins at the Last Trump
The 7th Angel poured out his vial—It is done!
(The 7th Angel pours out the last plague, the 7th Vial)
The Return of Jesus Christ (His Return is a 24 hour period)
The First Resurrection: First Fruits, includes 2 Witnesses & 144,000
The casting of the Beast and the False Prophet into the Lake of Fire
The Battle of That Great Day of God Almighty
The 2nd Exodus begins (May take 75 day to reach Jerusalem, ? 1335 days)
**********************************************************************
*The Wrath of God comes in 3 measures:
The Sixth Seal: the Heavenly signs.
The Seventh Seal with 7 Trumps
The Seven Last Plagues (Fill up the Wrath of God)
Your outline of end time events does nothing to dispute the simple truth that the lake of fire is a place of eternal torment:
“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
—Revelation 20:10
When the Bible says “for ever and ever”, it means for ever and ever.
We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience. We are a spirit or soul, that resides in a body, the spirit communicates w/ the brain which in turn communicates to the body.
That is the very opposite of what Jesus Christ teaches. The catholic teaching of the immorality of soul is another lie among the many. Like a trinity
Read the Bible, the word used for soul is also used to describe animals, Its meaning is ” a living breathing creature”
Look up the Hebrew word, “nephesh”, number 5316 in Strongs, this is the world translated soul.
if a soul is immortal so are animals.
If you are an immortal soul, you have absolutely no need for Jesus Christ.How can He “give” you eternal life if you already possess it.
The Bible throughout states: “the soul that sins it shall die.” immortal means you can’t die,
so I can trust the Word of God or another human composed of dust and soon to return to dust. Ah, no contest here. you lose
@ Truthseeker
“That is the very opposite of what Jesus Christ teaches. The catholic teaching of the immorality of soul is another lie among the many. LIKE A TRINITY” what do you mean by this statement?
I know that the term “trinity”is not found in the older translations (don’t know about the newer ones) of the Bible but obviously it referes to a triune devinity or the Godhead…
Is there something there that I am missing?
@ 3am
“Is there something that I am missing?”
YES!
first to am 123,
It says the devil was cast in and he will be in torment for ever, he is immortal, the word “are” after prophet was add by man, not God. Yes the beast& false prophet had been cast in, but for them to be tormented forever they must be immortal. Only God and the Angels are immortal no humans.
It can be said that the human body of dust is no more then a disposable incubator of Life.
If humans have an immortal soul, then the gift of God of eternal life is not true.
Stop and consider why would an immortal soul require a resurrection?
Also, to make a doctrine from one scripture when Isaiah in chapter28 says “here a little and there a little” usually does not work.
To 3 AM
The trinity is a catholic creations, just use logic, God created logic, Christ came to reveal the Father to us and He is now the Father’s Son. When Mary was to give birth to Christ it was the Holy Spirit that came over her, if the Holy Spirit was a God entity, then the Holy Spirit is the father. Read Paul, when he gives thanks it is to the Father and Christ, no ‘holy ghost’ is ever mentioned. God created using family, fathers and sons. The God Head is not a closed entity.
When The Word was to become Jesus Christ He had to step out of eternity and immortality, Christ gave up His personal Spirit to become human. When The One who is now the Father Resurrected Christ, Christ was given the very Spirit of the Father, think of it as the Spiritual DNA of the Father being put into Christ. Now They are ONE – of the same Holy Spirit.
Now consider this — we to, following the lead of our Savior Jesus Christ — will be Given the Holy Spirit of the Father at the Resurrection making us ONE with the Father and the Son. WE are to be in the Very Family of God.
What is stated above will never be heard in the churches of this world, for understanding, knowledge and truth we must go to the Father, not man. All that I know came from my Father.
@ Truthseeker
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the SPIRIT OF GOD moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:26 And God said, LET US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness:…
Is God not speaking to Jesus here?
Seems like there was a TRIUNE DIVINITY from the start…
Only if you’re reading that into it, for nowhere does it say that The Holy Spirit is a person.
The Spirit OF God, not the Spirit that IS God or IS A GOD.
The Holy Spirit is THE POWER of God.
3 AM,
This may clear this up for you, it has confused most folks.
In John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word (the Word is Christ) and the Word was with God,
AND THE WORD WAS GOD.
vs2 “The Same was in the beginning with God”
Now vs 3 answers your question, “All things were made by HIM and without Him was NOT anything made that was made.” Christ is the Creator God, but instructed by the Father.
Christ states “The Father is Greater then I”.
In Gen 1:26 The Father is talking with Jesus, “Let us”, He is instructing Jesus Christ to begin the creation of man.
If you do a real study you will find Jesus Christ to be the God of the Old Testament.
Jesus walked with Adam, Jesus wrote the 10 Commandments with His finger.
In the New Testament Christ came to reveal the Father, Christ stated, no man has heard or seen the Father ever. But Moses saw someones back side and talked face to face to someone.
That would be the Word that became Jesus Christ in Mary’s womb.
@no2error
“Only if you’re reading that into it, for nowhere does it say that The Holy Spirit is a person.”
How else can it be read?.. Are you by this then also implying that God is a person?
@no2error
1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
@Truthseeker
“That is the very opposite of what Jesus Christ teaches. The catholic teaching of the immorality of soul is another lie among the many. LIKE A TRINITY”
I agree with everything you have said and believe it. I have a problem with your above statement…
Truthseeker wrote:
“If you do a real study you will find Jesus Christ to be the God of the Old Testament.
Jesus walked with Adam, Jesus wrote the 10 Commandments with His finger.”
Is Truthseeker right? Israel is the bride married to the Elohim of Israel. Is the Elohim of Israel The Father? Messiah Yehoshua will be (RE) married to Israel at the wedding feast prior to the inauguration of the Kingdom at the beginning of the next age. THE SON CANNOT MARRY HIS FATHER’S WIFE. This means that YHWH of Hosts is The Son. YHWH of Hosts (the Elohim of Israel) is not The Father. The Son is the Rock cut without hands from the Mountain. The Son is the Rock of Ages. The Son is the Word (the LOGOS) which came out from The Father. The Son is the only begotten of The Father. The Son is OF The Father, and therefore it is not accurate to call Him a ‘created’ being. The Son/LOGOS/YHWH of Hosts is the vehicle through which all Creation came to be.
The Father and The Son are ONE (Echad) but they are not the same. The Son is THE FIRST AND THE LAST. The Son is THE KING of ISRAEL. The Son is THE HUSBAND of Israel. The Son is the Creator of the worlds. The Son came OUT from The Father and will in time RETURN to The Father (hence, The First and The Last).
YHWH of Hosts is the KING of Israel. Messiah Yehoshua is KING of Israel. There is ONE KING of Israel.
YHWH of Hosts is THE FIRST AND THE LAST. Messiah Yehoshua is THE FIRST AND THE LAST. There can only be ONE First and ONE Last.
YHWH of Hosts is the Husband of Israel. Messiah Yehoshua will marry Israel. Israel was divorced from YHWH of Hosts for whoring and infidelity. YHWH of Hosts came to Earth and died so that He might take her back.
Israel cannot have two Kings any more than she can have two husbands.
@ 3am
Trinity worshippers are antiChrists.
1 John 5:7-8 is a spurious addition by Jerome in 390 AD.
“1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
NOT the ‘Spirit is truth’. The correct translation from the Greek MSS is the SPIRIT OF THE TRUTH, and The Truth is Yashua Anointed so The Spirit is OF Yashua Anointed and is NOT the Spirit OF itself.
@ 3am
How else can it be read?..
As I have said – go back and read what I have said.
“Are you by this then also implying that God is a person?”
I am implying nothing, I am telling you that the Holy Spirit is an ‘it’ not a ‘he’. I am also telling you that The Father and Son are two distinct Spiritual beings and were always God with God from the ‘beginning’. The Godhead is therefore a Duality not a mickey mouse trinity.
@ no2error & BEEF SUPREME
I don’t get this referring to Jesus in “Jewish.” WHY?… They rejected the Messiah and crucified Him. The Jews need to get saved just like anyone else. Their house was left unto them desolate…
I don’t understand… Is there more merrit to what you are saying by doing so ..? Can you judge THE WORD when doing so?
To All,
God is ONE, when Christ rose from the dead, God the Father put His personal Spirit into Christ. Think of The Father’s Holy Spirit as His Spiritual DNA, that Spirit is what enlivened Christ, now both are of the same DNA if you will. That is exactly what will happen to God’s Saints at the First Resurrection. The Saints will be ONE with the Father and the Son, same DNA. Just like a human birth, the son has the DNA of the father.
Spirit is hard if not impossible to equate to physical, there is no male or female, if you look hard at the creation, what is found is every thing is individual. God hates cookie cutter stuff.
Spirit is individual, Angels have the “Spirit” of Angels and each Angel if different just like our finger prints. Animals have the “Spirit” of animals, each type of animal spirit give each type its separate instinct and personality.
If you will look it up, the Bible talks in 3 or 4 place about the “Spirit in man”. This is not a soul, this is not you, it has no part with flesh and blood. The only way I have found to poorly explain is to say this Spirit of or in man record our life, our character, it impart a spirit ability not founded in animals. Humans can think and created in our minds, we take those thoughts and build cities, ect. Animals, physically are much like humans but they build nests ect not civilizations.
God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ are separate Spirit entities but of the same Spirit DNA. A human father imparts his DNA to his son and both are individuals. The Saints, the Very Elect will also be of that very same Spirit, We will be ONE.
I neglected to include this: “The Spirit in Man” is given by God at the moment of conception,
At that moment The Word became Jesus Christ.
When a fetus is in the womb it has from the moment it was conceived the “Spirit of Man’,
if the mother and a doctor kill it, in God’s eyes you have murdered one of HIS Sons.
3AM wrote:
“I don’t get this referring to Jesus in “Jewish.” WHY?… They rejected the Messiah and crucified Him. The Jews need to get saved just like anyone else. Their house was left unto them desolate…”
There is a clear and very important distinction to be made between JEWISH and HEBREW. The Messiah was a man from the Tribe of Yehuda. It is disputed today (just ask Yes2Truth) whether the people living in the land of Israel today, calling themselves ‘Jews’, actually have any legitimate connection with the Tribe of Yehuda. But even if they do – Yehuda (Judah) is one tribe of 12 which were scattered amongst the nations. Israel sinned and Israel was given a bill of divorce and banished. But what happens next, according to the Scriptures? Israel WILL BE taken back, once she has been purified by the rod and by fire; once she has been baptized and made clean.
The Messiah has a legitimate Hebrew Name. He also has an illegitimate Greek name which has been introduced solely to create confusion and to be used as a tool to pry His people away from Him and into the religious paradigms. The Messiah’s Name IS NOT Jesus. This is a statement of fact. Why then would anyone who claims to be a follower of Messiah NOT insist on addressing Him by His actual Name (which has MEANING) rather than some substitute (which ALSO has meaning – none of it good).
The name Jesus and the term Christ have NO LEGITIMATE application to the authentic Hebrew Messiah from the Tribe of Judah. Messiah is my Master. He has a Name. I will address Him by the Name He was given by His Father in Heaven, rather than the illegitimate name which the institutions of men have insisted is His name.
His Name is Yehoshua. Yehoshua means SALVATION – or more specifically: The Salvation of YHWH.
Jesus is not his name. Jesus is an amalgamation of Jehovah and Zeus. Zeus and Jesus are spelled identically in Latin. The Messiah’s Name translated into English would be JOSHUA – just ask the leader of the Israelites who came after Moses. His name and Messiah’s Name are spelled IDENTICALLY.
@ Truth Seeker.
“God is ONE.”
God is not one. The Father is one and The Son is one and The Holy Spirit is their power – an ‘it’ not a ‘he’
The Son sits at The Father’s right hand in heaven.
Only The Father knows when The Son will return to this earth to take King David’s Throne.
If God is one i.e. monotheistic then the Islamics and the Jews must be saved, for they also believe in one god i.e. the Devil.
“When Christ rose from the dead, God the Father put His personal Spirit into Christ.”
Not so, Yashua Anointed said this:
John 2:19 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Yes2truth
I was quoting scripture, John 10:29 -30, My Father which gave them me is greater than all: and no man is able to pluck them out of My Father’s hand.
vs 30 ‘I and My Father are ONE”
I think you did not really read what was written, The Father and Christ are Separate Spirit entities but they are ONE in that they are of the same Spirit of the Father. To understand Spirit even a little is hard because we think in the physical.
Also that Spirit imparts the same Holy Righteous Character into all it enters. Reread it.
The Jews in Palestine today are of Khazaarian descent… WHY THIS PUSH FOR THE THIRD TEMPLE THEN?
HOLY TRINITY:
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Ghost
COUNTERFEIT TRINITY:
The dragon
The beast
The false prophet
CATHOLIC TRINITY:(pagan)
god the father
god the mother
god the child
There can not be a counterfeit trinity IF THERE IS NOT AN ORIGINAL TO BEGIN WITH!…
Even take Egypt:
isis
horus
seth
THE DEVIL IS THE FATHER OF LIES AND DECEIT. In order to confuse the nations, QUESS WHAT… Sop denying the GODHEAD!!!
3AM —
Who told you Satan copied everything the Almighty ever did? Sounds like more doctrines of men to me. No such thing is written in Scripture.
What IS written in Scripture is the inspired Word of the Almighty — what is written in Scripture is TRUTH. Truth does not need clarification by men and it does not require men to ADD to or to ALTER verses so that certain doctrines can better be explained. And yet in ALL instances where the ‘trinity’ is referenced in the New Testament Scriptures, the verses have been tampered with or simply concocted. There are NO exceptions to this statement. Look into Mathew 28:19 and Eusebius. Look into the ‘Comma Johaneum.’
Never in the history of Truth has there been an example of men ADDING their own thoughts and interpretations to the equation and ending up with an undamaged version of the pure, unadulterated truth.
The Father and The Son are IMMENSELY PERFECT without us having to add any spurious doctrines to describe Their state of Being. The doctrine of the trinity is not original, it is not scriptural, and as applied to The Father and The Son, it is not true.
As always, the Truth is much better than the altered or false reality which our teachers and institutions have labored to replace it with. ‘Godhead’ is a Kabbalistic term. The term ‘godhead’ has no legitimate connection with The Father and The Son. Neither does the word ‘god.’
@ Truth Seeker
“vs 30 ‘I and My Father are ONE””
Yes, as in likeminded and in total agreement, but that’s all. They are not unified as one being, they are two distinct Spiritual beings with the Holy Spirit Power emanating from them both and instructed by them.
John 14:20 (KJV) At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
If we are Born of God we are in Yashua Anointed and He is in us, but we are not The Godhead even though we are bound by The Holy Spirit and in Yashua Anointed.
“Also that Spirit imparts the same Holy Righteous Character into all it enters.”
Yes, Yashua Anointed’s character, not the character of Holy Spirit. It is a Living Power that The Father and Son use, hence Yashua Anointed said this:
John 14:18 (KJV) I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Yashua Anointed is The Comforter through The Holy Spirit, not the Holy Spirit of itself.
The Holy Spirit is different from the Father & Son because blasphemy against it carries a more severe penalty, telling us that it is not the same as The Father and The Son.
@ 3am
Show me the term “Holy Trinity” in the Holy Scriptures.
Anything that boasts in being a foundational belief in a belief system must be quoted all through the Holy Scriptures if it’s true and has substance, like the word Grace which is mentioned 131 times in the New Testament.
And don’t quote Matthew 28:19 and 1 John 5:7-8 because they were added by Tertullian 200 AD and Jerome and others of his ilk in 390 AD.
@no2error
The word “Holy Trinity” is nowhere to be found in the Bible, but in your own words…
“The Holy Spirit is different from the Father & Son because blasphemy against it carries a more severe penalty, telling us that it is not the same as The Father and The Son.”
.., BUT A THIRD ENTITY?
No, you are twisting my words as deceivers always do. Now do as I ask and show me the words HOLY TRINITY in the Holy Scriptures.
And no it’s not an entity, it’s a Power, and it’s not a ‘he’ it’s an ‘it’, so not a part of a triune deity of beings. The Godhead is a duality of two distinct beings, Father and Son, not a trinity.
@ BEEF SUPREME
“Who told you Satan copied everything the Almighty ever did? Sounds like more doctrines of men to me. No such thing is written in Scripture.”
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Etymology
The word antichrist is made up of two roots: αντί + Χριστός (anti + Christos). “Αντί” can mean not only “against” and “opposite of”, but also “IN PLACE OF”
The battle is about worship… How can satan have a couterfeit system of worship if he does not immitate everything God has set up. YOU WILL BE AMAZED AT THE “CO-INCIDENCES”…
Why do you think Jesus warned us about deceptions (even the very elect) at the end of time?