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If Hell Was Not Created For Mankind Then Who is it For
Wednesday, March 6, 2013 9:16
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Some people think that it is God that decides who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Nothing is further from the truth. It is God’s desire that all people would spend eternity with him in heaven and that no one would go to hell. In fact hell was not even created for man, but for the devil and his angels. As Jesus said when he speaks about judging the nations: “Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels” (1)
Jesus makes it clear that hell was created for the devil and his angels. But if a person doesn’t want to have anything to do with God during their life, then obviously they would hate being in heaven so they get sent to hell. But here’s why. God does not send them to hell because they are bad people. They choose to go to hell because they want nothing to do with God. They chose not to serve God in their life so God lets them be with their “god” and Christians with their God. In the same way that Christians choose to serve God, non-Christians choose not to serve God. Each person makes their own choice. God does not make anyone’s choice for them. No one is born a Christian, they chose to become a Christian. In the same way, people also chose not to be Christians. So it is perfectly fair that each group goes to be with their own kind.
If we say that God chooses who goes to heaven or hell then it doesn’t matter what we do, we don’t have a say in it, but that’s not how it works at all. Each person chooses for themselves where they want to spend eternity. God gave every person free will, the right to choose, and God NEVER interferes with someone’s free will. NEVER.
So if you end up in hell, it will be because YOU chose to go there. And if you end up in heaven it will be because YOU chose to go there. And you can make your choice for heaven right now if you want to. Go to www.ItsHisStory.com and get your Free Get Into Heaven Ticket right now.
(1) Matthew 25:41
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heavn is for the sinner that repented and hell is for the arrogant sinner
yes2truth
No one is going to heaven and hell is a hole in ground from the Hebrew ‘sheol’ – the grave.
Malaki
Is god willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able to but not willing? Than he is molevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence come evil?
Is he not able nor willing? Then why call him god?
yes2truth
@ Malaki
God created evil, so that Yahua Anointed could be The Lamb slain BEFORE the foundation of the world. Hence He said: “Before Abraham, I Am”.
Everything is to God’s Glory.
yes2truth
PS
His ways are not our ways and our ways are not His ways.
Yashua Anointed is The Way and came to show us The Way.
Leaving.
OP said, “Some people think that it is God that decides who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Nothing is further from the truth.”
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you…”
– from Jhn15:16
“…he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world…Having predestinated us…we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things”
– from Eph 1:4-11
Anonymous
Game, set, match…. Very clearly, writers of the NT do not agree with the opinion of this author. His type claim we have free will and yet stress that their god pre-ordains everything. It ranks right up there with the nonsense that, while their god allegedly created everything, it has nothing to do with any of the evil we see. No, that is the ever-changing “devil” who seems to rival “god” in power…. but doesn’t, according to the “believers”. Any being that describes itself as angry, jealous and wrathful can hardly be equated with love. I can assure the author of one thing – he has sold his soul to a non-human, non-physical being, just like any black magician. The only difference is the Christian expects their reward in heaven, the magician here on earth. I implore the author to relinquish this cosmic contract, before it’s too late. His very soul depends on it.
ElOregonian
Yes, God preordains all things, afterall He is the “Alpha and the Omega”, the beginning and the end. God is omnipotent and omniscient meaning He is all knowing, all seeing from time immortal. Which means that He already knows what is going to happen BUT, we do not know what is going to happen. Hence, predestined.
Think of a parade and you are watching that parade from the 50th floor of a building that the parade is proceeding next to. The participants only see the fellow participants directly in front and behind them on the ground level but the view 50 stories above gives a much more clear view of the beginning and the ending of the parade.
God let’s us make our own decisions, right or wrong, but we will be judged on those decisions we make.
In Exodus 9:12 “And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.”
Yes, the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart but ONLY after many, many times of refusing to let the Hebrews leave Egypt and go to their God-given land. God gave Pharaoh many opportunities to repent yet chose not to. At that time God gave him (Pharaoh) over to his own will and sealed that decision so that the Pharaoh was now forced to deny the Hebrews the right to worship God for three days in the wilderness to show Moses that the Pharaoh had no intention to release the Hebrews to worship God.
“omnipotent and omniscient”
Leaving.
e said, “God let’s us make our own decisions…And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh…”
Then, who made the decision?
Of which I am aware, free moral agency is central to the doctrine of Lucifer, and demonized mediums consider predestination offensive.
yes2truth
Nice post.
yes2truth
The above comment was for Anon.
Leaving.
Maranatha.
Troll King
There is no hell but what you make for yourself here on earth! You know so very little about the afterlife! It is you who are arrogant, puffing your chest out and blowing your horn as if you know something! All you know about are angels, demons, Jesus and God….nothing else! All you Christians seem to have a need to show off your knowledge in regards to Christianity…for what?
I know all I need to know and what I know I don’t like! There is sooooo much lost in translation of the old and new testament books that you will never know the truth!
jbw
“There is sooooo much lost in translation of the old and new testament books that you will never know the truth!” You are an IDIOT of the highest (lowest) order….
Troll King
And you are a blind fool!!!!!
Troll King
You ride the waves of emotion and call it the holy spirit! What a laugh!
ThenAgain
Pardon many of the comment makers here, it seem many do not understand the history of the many the many, many editions of various ‘bibles’ that have been written and re-written by various parties. Learn history, appreciate the better Symbolic (keyword) features of whatever ‘bible’ you most appreciate, but if doing so has you sitting around
waiting for a ‘rapture’ etc while you could instead be informing others of what is happening or taking action is a gross slap in the face to the life you were given. Expecting ‘god will save me or I’ll just die and go to heaven’ is the sort of moronic thinking that those who run most of today’s corrupted churches have been paid to foment in follower sheep. What are you doing to wake up your neighbors to what’s happening to our country and rights. The Christ figure was a leader. Be a leader.
Leaving.
t said, “Pardon many of the comment makers here, it seem many do not understand the history of the many the many, many editions of various ‘bibles’ that have been written and re-written by various parties. Learn history…’
But, I have learned the practices of the scribes, who copied Scripture, one letter at a time.
Troll King
This comment will no doubt be attacked with all sorts of quotes from scripture that none of you really know what it truly means!
ElOregonian
Judging by your comments you have not read, or understood what you read. That is completely obvious to me. Hopefully you will earnestly seek the answers in the bible with a open and pure heart. Revelation comes from seeking answers honestly.
Troll King
Yeah…judging is what you christians do best isn’t it!!!! You’re so brainwashed that you can’t see for looking!
Leaving.
a said, “All you Christians seem to have a need to show off your knowledge in regards to Christianity…for what?”
For worship, fellowship, and the edification of other believers.
“A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.”
– Titus 3:10-11
(John 3:16 is used so venally, we see it in sports parks and fake wrestling.)
“he that believeth not is condemned already”
– from John 3:18
“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.”
– Mat 10:14, Mar 6:11, Luk 9:5, Act 13:51
This means that no trick of wording can possibly be clever enough to convert the incredulous. I do not personally consider this an effort to convince anyone who does not want to be bothered.
Pharisees.org
Jango reveals himself to be of the spirit of error because he refuses to listen to apostle John (1 John 4:6, 3 John 1:11, Romans 7:19, 7:25). John says people who do evil are not of God. The false apostle Pharisee Paul says he does evil (Romans 7:19, 7:25).
Matthew 7:22-23 Many shall say to me in that day Lord Lord we did many wonderful works in your name, prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name … depart ….”
These people say we served you Lord, look at all we did in your name, Lord. And yet, Christ says he never knew them. Who are these people? They sound as if they served the Lord, they BELIEVE they served the Lord.
Think about, these people are arguing with Christ putting up reasons why he should know them. Who are these people? They are the 1600 + years of antichrists who understand and accept the gospel of the false apostle Pharisee Paul. None of them listen to Christ, they prefer their religious system of lay people with spiritual rulers and pay for their enslavement. Christ all are brethren who obey him (Matthew 23:8-10).
Many in the churches do not understand the gospel of Pharisee Paul. But for those who do and they preach it, they are children of Hell being converts to a doctrine of a Pharisee, and Paul/Saul of Tarsus is a Pharisee. The blind fools will say he was a Pharisee, but they are liars, Acts 23:6. To become a Pharisee means you’ve already sold on Devil seed, which is evil doctrine. Read Revelation chapters 1 and 2 and Christ is denouncing all of the doctrine he hates that his people are being subjected to by having around them the evil people who are holding doctrines that Christ hates.
CHRIST DIED to remove the penalty for all sins (except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit) and here Pharisee Paul says:
Hebrews 10:26-27 If you willfully sin after knowing the truth, then there is no more sacrifice for sins, but to wait in fear for the judgment and fiery indignation which shall devour.
So I say to Hell with the Children of Hell who cover up for the false apostle who lies claiming that sacrifice for sin need even be made. Condemnation is for refusing to give up evil deeds (John 3:19). The very thing Jesus asks that evil people stop doing evil, the false apostle says he SERVES SIN in his flesh (Romans 7:25). No wonder the Babylon whore put people to death for owning a bible. But they didn’t realize the spirit of error works in their favor and even reading the blatant hypocrisy, the Pharisee Paul followers still do not get it. And in the above passage, the man of Satan says go to Hell if you ever willfully sin. Pharisee Paul’s followers, the ardent adherents to his gospel are already Hell bound (Matthew 23:15).
Matthew Ch. 13, the sower of good seed, is God. The sower of bad seed is the Devil. The seed is thoughts.
Rev. 20:8 after Christ’s 1000 year reign on earth, Satan is set loose and goes out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog. Thought is the seed, good or bad.
Matthew 13:19 “When anyone who hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one catches away the word sown in his heart.”
The evil one sows evil thoughts into the heart of man and takes away the good seed by bringing in opposing evil thoughts for those who hear the word of the kingdom and do not understand.
Rev. 5:9 says there will be people in heaven from among all that dwelt on earth, from every nation, tongue, kindred and tribes. That covers everyone. So to Hell with the lying doctrine that there are people who are part flesh of mankind and part flesh of Satan or evil ETs, as put out by David Icke and other blind fools.
Beware of what? Surely you don’t mean beware of yet another BIN anonymous numpty? Why should I beware of one them? LOL
Could it be the mongrel dog Pharisees.org in disguise? LOL
Pharisees.org
2000+ years of antichrists who came on the scene when the Pharisee came up with his doctrine of UN-Circumcision to counter (to anti) Christ’s gospel of Circumcision (Galatians 2:7-8, Romans 15:8).
For almost 1600 years the Catholic church was it and that the is power gained by Pharisees through the churches they started for Gentiles. The lavish lifestyles of the popes was broadcast everywhere via a new invention, the printing press. So Satan raised up Martin Luther, the Jew hater, – same false gospel of Pharisee Paul, same unholy altar, unholy Eucharist and spiritual officers over lay.
Anyone who entrusts their soul to the guidance of Pharisees.org is insane.
Pharisees.org
Go screw yourself because I am pointing out what Christ says, as recorded in Matthew and John. You are evil for saying not to trust the writings of the true apostles, John and Matthew.
yes2truth
Ha Ha Ha – a blind guide is pointing out what Yashua Anointed said!!
How does that work then? Sounds like a road sweeper attempting brain surgery to me. LOL
yes2truth
PS
Looks like Luke and Mark as well as Paul in his letters along with the Book of Acts are now surplus to requirements in Pharisees.org’s abridged version of the New Testament. LOL
Pharisees.org has to be the most outrageous Biblical weirdo I have ever had the misfortune to meet – with the exception, of course, the King of Shams. LOL
Anonymous
Hell wasn’t “created”, it is the result of the anguish of burning regret when one rejects the glory and sovereignty of a loving God. Just think what a place would be like in a fellowship with all those that are purely evil and only focused on the destruction of the souls around them. It would be pure chaos and pain and what would consume you like an eternal burning fire is the fact that you could have worshiped God and avoided that eternal sentence.
If you reject God and the salvation he provided, there are many evil ones in the darkness that are waiting to render your soul for eternity. There is no love in hell.
BTW, the opposite of love is not hate……..the opposite of love is indifference.
Troll King
The opposite of love is fear!
Troll King
The creation of hell was to keep people in line like good little sheeple.
yes2truth
No, the creation of religion, not hell, was the tool they designed to control the people.
Hell is a hole in the ground – the grave and there is nothing to fear in that, for we all end up there sooner or later.
Death is oblivion where we hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing, taste nothing and do nothing apart from sleep a deep sleep until the second resurrection when all men will be saved. (unless you’re a part of the first resurrection where things are a bit different)
Anonymous
There is no such thing as a ‘Christian’ God. God is always God regardless how we call Him. It is He who is the origin of everything who is the highest.
The rest of this article is fine. Hell is for demons, either on earth or on some other lower dimensional planet.
Robbie
Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Notice those not in the book of life were cast into the lake of fire with death and hell for the second death. It does not say they will have eternal life in hell. In fact, hell is destroyed in the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever. (It appears that the devil, the beast and the false prophet cannot die.)
Truthseeker
Well said;
correction on only one part, the Beast and the False Prophet are physical men and they are to be cast in the Lake of Fire at the return of Christ. They will be burnt to dust.
Satan is cast where they “are” is added. Satan is immortal but not man. Only satan will be tormented forever, he will exist in black darkness with his demons for ever. That is a torment I would not want for any reason. I would rather die, the 2nd death is actually an act of mercy on God’s part. We shoot mad dogs, so does God.
Anonymous
God created no hell, but evil beings try to control us with fear. Fear motivates the lower man and plays no role in the life of the higher man. Laws are for lower men while right is the motivator of the higher man. They want to keep you scared so they can keep you ignorant and weak. When you wake up, you stop being afraid. Your call.
Troll King
Very well put!
Pharisees.org
Yeah, fear being evil and do what’s right or face eternity in hell. I laugh at these idiots who mock what God says, stop doing evil. God doesn’t want someone to steal from you, to take your wife, to kidnap, murder, bear false witness against you and he says don’t do it to others either.
Yer a religious nutcase like the rest of them on this post!
Djedi
Heaven & Hell are states of consciousness, before, during & after life.
haskins
heaven , hell
neither exist
except in you mind
Troll King
Aren’t you going to be in for a surprise when you find yourself on the other side with ever one that you thought was in hell. There is no hell.
Troll King
Bible thumpers are the most ignorant people alive! They think they have all the answers and don’t realize that they have been living a lie! I admit that the bible teaches good morals but so do every other religion on earth….and that’s where it should end! Everything else besides the morals is garbage and fairy tales! Oh yes and it teaches some history! You are living in a prison of your own choosing! One day soon…your faith will be destroyed!
Blackie the faithful border collie
That Jesus of yours sounds as bad as his OT dad at times.
predictability
To-arthur. Holy Bible verse 1 In the begging God created earth and earth created Man. peace predictability.
Pharisees.org
Intellectually dishonesty is a disgusting trait. God said he formed Adam from the earth and God breathed the life into Adam (Genesis 2:7).
predictability
To.Pharisees.org. didn’t god also state bless those that heed my words to teach those that mock shudder criticise his miracles. like the ground we selfishly forget we walk all over but we didn’t make that didn’t we Nor are own souls why do u preach like the many instead of emproviseing??. didn’t god also state that he is the source to cease are destruction?. why do u throw a book devised by lucifers followers such as Judah-judas to try to make people like me look bad when ur label is .Pharisees. did u know that exact title is a babylon traditional Name twisted into truth. look inside for wisdom not the world. peace predictability.
Room With a View
O where is my comment
dupek
For me,dummy. It is my home. I made it my self.
Pix
“If Hell Was Not Created For Mankind Then Who is it For”
There’s only one purpose any sort of eternal hell would serve, and that is entertainment for those not in hell. There would be no redemption once in hell, so no amount of torture would serve any purpose. It would be nothing but gratuitous violence, for the sake of violence.
In any case, any sort of eternal existence would become a hell sooner or later. I’d give myself a few hundred years of existing in a disembodies voyeristic state before begging for oblivion, let alone in a thousand, million, billion, trillion etc years time. Eternity is as large as your imagination will allow.
no2lies
Pix,
I totally agree. First of all, the bible says that breaking one commandment is like breaking all the commandments. So we’re all going to hell and it is all for God’s entertainment. Maybe God gets turned on by all the unnecessary torture for all of eternity. I mean, he’s probably just bored. God isn’t as cool as he used to be. He used to send plagues and swarms of locusts and cool stuff like that. Now he just starves a billion people slowly, which I find far less entertaining.
Also, I love the idea of running around naked in a jungle… its like being on a nude beach on LSD. I’m just hoping they have craft brews in heaven.
Pix
The attributes of their god, all knowing, all powerful, and all compassionate are at complete odds with free will, there wouldn’t be any only predestination, exactly like a preprogrammed Sim. It can be beaten by chariots of iron (Judges 1.19), hardly all powerful; what would it make of our modern tanks? And torturing sensitive thinking feeling beings for all eternity is the complete opposite of compassionate. It has fore knowledge of our actions and judges based on what we do in our short lives. Such a being would be more evil than anything we could imagine, because it necessarily would deliberately, all knowingly create evil, knowing it’s going to torture for all eternity.
The IT has declared a final judgement it knew would happen if IT created things to turn out that way. So we were judged at the dawn of time, the instant IT popped into existence. Meaning it wouldn’t matter if every single human being acted like the purest of angels, it would never be enough. It is written so will happen regardless.
Theists should be called ‘Oxymorons r US’.
robobbob
According to the Gospel of Truth unearthed at Nag Hammadi, hell wasn’t specifically created for anyone. as described in the text. paraphrase: the only creatures being put there by force are satan and his minions. all others have the choice of entering into the light of truth, or withdrawing to the land of shadows that is ruled over by vile, sadistic demons who will be looking for vengance.
Many people dismiss gnostic texts, but there it is.
Cosmic Charlie
All Jews will go to hell. They are Racist Pigs.
yes2truth
No not hell in the sense that you mean but, rather, Yashua Anointed’s boot camp where His Grace drill sergeants will give ‘em hell.
Troll King
It’s absolutely NO USE arguing against Christians who are stuck in a mindset! It’s impossible for them to see anything else that what they have been brainwashed to see! So non-believers…give it up! Trying to make them see things from another point of view is like trying to teach your dog how to rebuild an automatic transmission. All your dog knows how to do is bark, bark, bark…
yes2truth
It’s absolutely NO USE arguing against Atheists or Secularists who are stuck in a mindset! It is impossible for them to see or hear anything else other than that with which they have been brainwashed to see and hear. So Christians…give it up! Trying to make them see things from a Godly and Scriptural point of view is like trying to teach your dog how to rebuild an automatic transmission. All your dog knows is how to bark, bark, bark…
heavn is for the sinner that repented and hell is for the arrogant sinner
No one is going to heaven and hell is a hole in ground from the Hebrew ‘sheol’ – the grave.
Is god willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able to but not willing? Than he is molevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence come evil?
Is he not able nor willing? Then why call him god?
@ Malaki
God created evil, so that Yahua Anointed could be The Lamb slain BEFORE the foundation of the world. Hence He said: “Before Abraham, I Am”.
Everything is to God’s Glory.
PS
His ways are not our ways and our ways are not His ways.
Yashua Anointed is The Way and came to show us The Way.
OP said, “Some people think that it is God that decides who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Nothing is further from the truth.”
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you…”
– from Jhn15:16
“…he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world…Having predestinated us…we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things”
– from Eph 1:4-11
Game, set, match…. Very clearly, writers of the NT do not agree with the opinion of this author. His type claim we have free will and yet stress that their god pre-ordains everything. It ranks right up there with the nonsense that, while their god allegedly created everything, it has nothing to do with any of the evil we see. No, that is the ever-changing “devil” who seems to rival “god” in power…. but doesn’t, according to the “believers”. Any being that describes itself as angry, jealous and wrathful can hardly be equated with love. I can assure the author of one thing – he has sold his soul to a non-human, non-physical being, just like any black magician. The only difference is the Christian expects their reward in heaven, the magician here on earth. I implore the author to relinquish this cosmic contract, before it’s too late. His very soul depends on it.
Yes, God preordains all things, afterall He is the “Alpha and the Omega”, the beginning and the end. God is omnipotent and omniscient meaning He is all knowing, all seeing from time immortal. Which means that He already knows what is going to happen BUT, we do not know what is going to happen. Hence, predestined.
Think of a parade and you are watching that parade from the 50th floor of a building that the parade is proceeding next to. The participants only see the fellow participants directly in front and behind them on the ground level but the view 50 stories above gives a much more clear view of the beginning and the ending of the parade.
God let’s us make our own decisions, right or wrong, but we will be judged on those decisions we make.
In Exodus 9:12 “And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.”
Yes, the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart but ONLY after many, many times of refusing to let the Hebrews leave Egypt and go to their God-given land. God gave Pharaoh many opportunities to repent yet chose not to. At that time God gave him (Pharaoh) over to his own will and sealed that decision so that the Pharaoh was now forced to deny the Hebrews the right to worship God for three days in the wilderness to show Moses that the Pharaoh had no intention to release the Hebrews to worship God.
“omnipotent and omniscient”
e said, “God let’s us make our own decisions…And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh…”
Then, who made the decision?
Of which I am aware, free moral agency is central to the doctrine of Lucifer, and demonized mediums consider predestination offensive.
Nice post.
The above comment was for Anon.
There is no hell but what you make for yourself here on earth! You know so very little about the afterlife! It is you who are arrogant, puffing your chest out and blowing your horn as if you know something! All you know about are angels, demons, Jesus and God….nothing else! All you Christians seem to have a need to show off your knowledge in regards to Christianity…for what?
I know all I need to know and what I know I don’t like! There is sooooo much lost in translation of the old and new testament books that you will never know the truth!
“There is sooooo much lost in translation of the old and new testament books that you will never know the truth!” You are an IDIOT of the highest (lowest) order….
And you are a blind fool!!!!!
You ride the waves of emotion and call it the holy spirit! What a laugh!
Pardon many of the comment makers here, it seem many do not understand the history of the many the many, many editions of various ‘bibles’ that have been written and re-written by various parties. Learn history, appreciate the better Symbolic (keyword) features of whatever ‘bible’ you most appreciate, but if doing so has you sitting around
waiting for a ‘rapture’ etc while you could instead be informing others of what is happening or taking action is a gross slap in the face to the life you were given. Expecting ‘god will save me or I’ll just die and go to heaven’ is the sort of moronic thinking that those who run most of today’s corrupted churches have been paid to foment in follower sheep. What are you doing to wake up your neighbors to what’s happening to our country and rights. The Christ figure was a leader. Be a leader.
t said, “Pardon many of the comment makers here, it seem many do not understand the history of the many the many, many editions of various ‘bibles’ that have been written and re-written by various parties. Learn history…’
But, I have learned the practices of the scribes, who copied Scripture, one letter at a time.
This comment will no doubt be attacked with all sorts of quotes from scripture that none of you really know what it truly means!
Judging by your comments you have not read, or understood what you read. That is completely obvious to me. Hopefully you will earnestly seek the answers in the bible with a open and pure heart. Revelation comes from seeking answers honestly.
Yeah…judging is what you christians do best isn’t it!!!! You’re so brainwashed that you can’t see for looking!
a said, “All you Christians seem to have a need to show off your knowledge in regards to Christianity…for what?”
For worship, fellowship, and the edification of other believers.
“A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.”
– Titus 3:10-11
(John 3:16 is used so venally, we see it in sports parks and fake wrestling.)
“he that believeth not is condemned already”
– from John 3:18
“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.”
– Mat 10:14, Mar 6:11, Luk 9:5, Act 13:51
This means that no trick of wording can possibly be clever enough to convert the incredulous. I do not personally consider this an effort to convince anyone who does not want to be bothered.
Jango reveals himself to be of the spirit of error because he refuses to listen to apostle John (1 John 4:6, 3 John 1:11, Romans 7:19, 7:25). John says people who do evil are not of God. The false apostle Pharisee Paul says he does evil (Romans 7:19, 7:25).
Matthew 7:22-23 Many shall say to me in that day Lord Lord we did many wonderful works in your name, prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name … depart ….”
These people say we served you Lord, look at all we did in your name, Lord. And yet, Christ says he never knew them. Who are these people? They sound as if they served the Lord, they BELIEVE they served the Lord.
Think about, these people are arguing with Christ putting up reasons why he should know them. Who are these people? They are the 1600 + years of antichrists who understand and accept the gospel of the false apostle Pharisee Paul. None of them listen to Christ, they prefer their religious system of lay people with spiritual rulers and pay for their enslavement. Christ all are brethren who obey him (Matthew 23:8-10).
Many in the churches do not understand the gospel of Pharisee Paul. But for those who do and they preach it, they are children of Hell being converts to a doctrine of a Pharisee, and Paul/Saul of Tarsus is a Pharisee. The blind fools will say he was a Pharisee, but they are liars, Acts 23:6. To become a Pharisee means you’ve already sold on Devil seed, which is evil doctrine. Read Revelation chapters 1 and 2 and Christ is denouncing all of the doctrine he hates that his people are being subjected to by having around them the evil people who are holding doctrines that Christ hates.
CHRIST DIED to remove the penalty for all sins (except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit) and here Pharisee Paul says:
Hebrews 10:26-27 If you willfully sin after knowing the truth, then there is no more sacrifice for sins, but to wait in fear for the judgment and fiery indignation which shall devour.
So I say to Hell with the Children of Hell who cover up for the false apostle who lies claiming that sacrifice for sin need even be made. Condemnation is for refusing to give up evil deeds (John 3:19). The very thing Jesus asks that evil people stop doing evil, the false apostle says he SERVES SIN in his flesh (Romans 7:25). No wonder the Babylon whore put people to death for owning a bible. But they didn’t realize the spirit of error works in their favor and even reading the blatant hypocrisy, the Pharisee Paul followers still do not get it. And in the above passage, the man of Satan says go to Hell if you ever willfully sin. Pharisee Paul’s followers, the ardent adherents to his gospel are already Hell bound (Matthew 23:15).
Matthew Ch. 13, the sower of good seed, is God. The sower of bad seed is the Devil. The seed is thoughts.
Rev. 20:8 after Christ’s 1000 year reign on earth, Satan is set loose and goes out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog. Thought is the seed, good or bad.
Matthew 13:19 “When anyone who hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one catches away the word sown in his heart.”
The evil one sows evil thoughts into the heart of man and takes away the good seed by bringing in opposing evil thoughts for those who hear the word of the kingdom and do not understand.
Rev. 5:9 says there will be people in heaven from among all that dwelt on earth, from every nation, tongue, kindred and tribes. That covers everyone. So to Hell with the lying doctrine that there are people who are part flesh of mankind and part flesh of Satan or evil ETs, as put out by David Icke and other blind fools.
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Beware the poision of asps and the blasphemies of evil mongrel dogs against the Holy Scriptures.
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Yup…You better beware!
Beware of what? Surely you don’t mean beware of yet another BIN anonymous numpty? Why should I beware of one them? LOL
Could it be the mongrel dog Pharisees.org in disguise? LOL
2000+ years of antichrists who came on the scene when the Pharisee came up with his doctrine of UN-Circumcision to counter (to anti) Christ’s gospel of Circumcision (Galatians 2:7-8, Romans 15:8).
For almost 1600 years the Catholic church was it and that the is power gained by Pharisees through the churches they started for Gentiles. The lavish lifestyles of the popes was broadcast everywhere via a new invention, the printing press. So Satan raised up Martin Luther, the Jew hater, – same false gospel of Pharisee Paul, same unholy altar, unholy Eucharist and spiritual officers over lay.
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Anyone who entrusts their soul to the guidance of Pharisees.org is insane.
Go screw yourself because I am pointing out what Christ says, as recorded in Matthew and John. You are evil for saying not to trust the writings of the true apostles, John and Matthew.
Ha Ha Ha – a blind guide is pointing out what Yashua Anointed said!!
How does that work then? Sounds like a road sweeper attempting brain surgery to me. LOL
PS
Looks like Luke and Mark as well as Paul in his letters along with the Book of Acts are now surplus to requirements in Pharisees.org’s abridged version of the New Testament. LOL
Pharisees.org has to be the most outrageous Biblical weirdo I have ever had the misfortune to meet – with the exception, of course, the King of Shams. LOL
Hell wasn’t “created”, it is the result of the anguish of burning regret when one rejects the glory and sovereignty of a loving God. Just think what a place would be like in a fellowship with all those that are purely evil and only focused on the destruction of the souls around them. It would be pure chaos and pain and what would consume you like an eternal burning fire is the fact that you could have worshiped God and avoided that eternal sentence.
If you reject God and the salvation he provided, there are many evil ones in the darkness that are waiting to render your soul for eternity. There is no love in hell.
BTW, the opposite of love is not hate……..the opposite of love is indifference.
The opposite of love is fear!
The creation of hell was to keep people in line like good little sheeple.
No, the creation of religion, not hell, was the tool they designed to control the people.
Hell is a hole in the ground – the grave and there is nothing to fear in that, for we all end up there sooner or later.
Death is oblivion where we hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing, taste nothing and do nothing apart from sleep a deep sleep until the second resurrection when all men will be saved. (unless you’re a part of the first resurrection where things are a bit different)
There is no such thing as a ‘Christian’ God. God is always God regardless how we call Him. It is He who is the origin of everything who is the highest.
The rest of this article is fine. Hell is for demons, either on earth or on some other lower dimensional planet.
Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Notice those not in the book of life were cast into the lake of fire with death and hell for the second death. It does not say they will have eternal life in hell. In fact, hell is destroyed in the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever. (It appears that the devil, the beast and the false prophet cannot die.)
Well said;
correction on only one part, the Beast and the False Prophet are physical men and they are to be cast in the Lake of Fire at the return of Christ. They will be burnt to dust.
Satan is cast where they “are” is added. Satan is immortal but not man. Only satan will be tormented forever, he will exist in black darkness with his demons for ever. That is a torment I would not want for any reason. I would rather die, the 2nd death is actually an act of mercy on God’s part. We shoot mad dogs, so does God.
God created no hell, but evil beings try to control us with fear. Fear motivates the lower man and plays no role in the life of the higher man. Laws are for lower men while right is the motivator of the higher man. They want to keep you scared so they can keep you ignorant and weak. When you wake up, you stop being afraid. Your call.
Very well put!
Yeah, fear being evil and do what’s right or face eternity in hell. I laugh at these idiots who mock what God says, stop doing evil. God doesn’t want someone to steal from you, to take your wife, to kidnap, murder, bear false witness against you and he says don’t do it to others either.
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Yer a religious nutcase like the rest of them on this post!
Heaven & Hell are states of consciousness, before, during & after life.
heaven , hell
neither exist
except in you mind
Aren’t you going to be in for a surprise when you find yourself on the other side with ever one that you thought was in hell. There is no hell.
Bible thumpers are the most ignorant people alive! They think they have all the answers and don’t realize that they have been living a lie! I admit that the bible teaches good morals but so do every other religion on earth….and that’s where it should end! Everything else besides the morals is garbage and fairy tales! Oh yes and it teaches some history! You are living in a prison of your own choosing! One day soon…your faith will be destroyed!
That Jesus of yours sounds as bad as his OT dad at times.
To-arthur. Holy Bible verse 1 In the begging God created earth and earth created Man. peace predictability.
Intellectually dishonesty is a disgusting trait. God said he formed Adam from the earth and God breathed the life into Adam (Genesis 2:7).
To.Pharisees.org. didn’t god also state bless those that heed my words to teach those that mock shudder criticise his miracles. like the ground we selfishly forget we walk all over but we didn’t make that didn’t we Nor are own souls why do u preach like the many instead of emproviseing??. didn’t god also state that he is the source to cease are destruction?. why do u throw a book devised by lucifers followers such as Judah-judas to try to make people like me look bad when ur label is .Pharisees. did u know that exact title is a babylon traditional Name twisted into truth. look inside for wisdom not the world. peace predictability.
O where is my comment
For me,dummy. It is my home. I made it my self.
“If Hell Was Not Created For Mankind Then Who is it For”
There’s only one purpose any sort of eternal hell would serve, and that is entertainment for those not in hell. There would be no redemption once in hell, so no amount of torture would serve any purpose. It would be nothing but gratuitous violence, for the sake of violence.
In any case, any sort of eternal existence would become a hell sooner or later. I’d give myself a few hundred years of existing in a disembodies voyeristic state before begging for oblivion, let alone in a thousand, million, billion, trillion etc years time. Eternity is as large as your imagination will allow.
Pix,
I totally agree. First of all, the bible says that breaking one commandment is like breaking all the commandments. So we’re all going to hell and it is all for God’s entertainment. Maybe God gets turned on by all the unnecessary torture for all of eternity. I mean, he’s probably just bored. God isn’t as cool as he used to be. He used to send plagues and swarms of locusts and cool stuff like that. Now he just starves a billion people slowly, which I find far less entertaining.
Also, I love the idea of running around naked in a jungle… its like being on a nude beach on LSD. I’m just hoping they have craft brews in heaven.
The attributes of their god, all knowing, all powerful, and all compassionate are at complete odds with free will, there wouldn’t be any only predestination, exactly like a preprogrammed Sim. It can be beaten by chariots of iron (Judges 1.19), hardly all powerful; what would it make of our modern tanks? And torturing sensitive thinking feeling beings for all eternity is the complete opposite of compassionate. It has fore knowledge of our actions and judges based on what we do in our short lives. Such a being would be more evil than anything we could imagine, because it necessarily would deliberately, all knowingly create evil, knowing it’s going to torture for all eternity.
The IT has declared a final judgement it knew would happen if IT created things to turn out that way. So we were judged at the dawn of time, the instant IT popped into existence. Meaning it wouldn’t matter if every single human being acted like the purest of angels, it would never be enough. It is written so will happen regardless.
Theists should be called ‘Oxymorons r US’.
According to the Gospel of Truth unearthed at Nag Hammadi, hell wasn’t specifically created for anyone. as described in the text. paraphrase: the only creatures being put there by force are satan and his minions. all others have the choice of entering into the light of truth, or withdrawing to the land of shadows that is ruled over by vile, sadistic demons who will be looking for vengance.
Many people dismiss gnostic texts, but there it is.
All Jews will go to hell. They are Racist Pigs.
No not hell in the sense that you mean but, rather, Yashua Anointed’s boot camp where His Grace drill sergeants will give ‘em hell.
It’s absolutely NO USE arguing against Christians who are stuck in a mindset! It’s impossible for them to see anything else that what they have been brainwashed to see! So non-believers…give it up! Trying to make them see things from another point of view is like trying to teach your dog how to rebuild an automatic transmission. All your dog knows how to do is bark, bark, bark…
It’s absolutely NO USE arguing against Atheists or Secularists who are stuck in a mindset! It is impossible for them to see or hear anything else other than that with which they have been brainwashed to see and hear. So Christians…give it up! Trying to make them see things from a Godly and Scriptural point of view is like trying to teach your dog how to rebuild an automatic transmission. All your dog knows is how to bark, bark, bark…
Have a nice day LOL