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Oldest Bible Found In Palestine Confirms Jesus Was A Servant of God

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Oldest Bible Found In Palestine Confirms Jesus Was ‘A Servant of God’? Was Jesus the Son of God or A Servant of God? 



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    • am123

      This video presents a false gospel message. The Bible says those that do such things will be cursed or condemned:

      8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

      9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

      —Galatians 1:8-9

      If you want to know what the Bible says on the matter, the Gospel of John tells us Jesus is the Word, who created all things:

      “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”
      —John 1:1-3

      And if that is not clear enough, here is further proof….

      Isaiah tells us that the LORD alone MADE all things:

      “Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;”
      —Isaiah 44:24

      …and Paul said ALL things were made by Jesus:

      “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him”
      —Colossians 1:16

      So if Isaiah said the LORD alone created ALL THINGS and John said Jesus was the Word who created all things, and Paul said JESUS created ALL THINGS, then JESUS must be GOD or else there would be a contradiction in the Word.

      Paul also made the Spirit of God synonymous with the Spirit of Christ:

      “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
      —Romans 8:9

      Jesus declared equality with God:

      “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”
      —John 5:18

      …and Jesus did not shy away from being equal to God:

      “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God”
      —Philippians 2:6

      In the burning bush encounter with God, God told Moses His name was I AM. This also, Jesus claimed:

      “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
      —John 8:58

      Jesus also said, if you have seen Him, you have seen the Father:

      “Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?”
      —John 14:9

      Worship is reserved for God alone. And here is an account of someone worshipping Jesus:

      “While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.”
      —Matthew 9:18

      There is ONE and only ONE SAVIOR:

      10Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
      11I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
      —Isaiah 43

      Notice that concerning the chosen servant, God says “understand that I am he”. That is, Jesus is the Word made flesh. Verse 11 says there is NO savior except the LORD. And Acts says of the name of Jesus:

      ”Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
      —Acts 4:12

      So if there is NO SAVIOR besides the LORD according to Isaiah, and the New Testament tells us JESUS is the SAVIOR, then JESUS MUST BE THE LORD.

      And Isaiah speaks of a child born unto us who is called might God and everlasting Father:

      “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
      —Isaiah 9:6

      There is only ONE mighty God and ONE everlasting Father.

      And Jesus Himself declares:

      “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”
      —Revelation 1:8

      • Sally\'sBIN

        Your argument is completely invalid. The point of this article is that your quotes are reinterpreted.

        This alleged Bible is OLDER than your quoted Bible verses. This means you points are garbage if this article is true.

        If true, your Bible’s Jesus was a mere servant of God, and not the “saviour” you have been mislead to believe.

        Nobody will truly know for sure, thats why it’s called “Faith”

        • am123

          I know the One I serve and who He is.

          Unto Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that He is LORD.

        • Sally\'sBIN

          “I know the One I serve and who He is.

          Unto Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that He is LORD.”

          Way to completely ignore my comments. You blindly follow something which has points for against and for your religious views. Our existence was made to be questioned, yet you ignore facts, and claim pseudoscience is correct.

          Average Christian “am123″

        • ecclesiatical

          (sally) Jesus said so himself ,I have come to serve and not be served ,MARK 10:45) so whats all the fuss about?God did not create hell and evil but we did ,with our attitudes and selfishness.narcissism and lack of morals(pix) It is better to believe that there is a God and then die and find out that there isn’t ,then to live as if there is no God than die and find out that there is’

        • ecclesiatical

          Your argument is completely valid if you did not use the word alleged,if this article is true,if it is proven to be older,if you remove those phrases your argument is beyond invalid and please make your words soft and sweet ,one day you might have the need to eat them :idea:

        • Pharisees.org

          Starting time 1:30 on vid: alternative writings on the gospel of Christ

          Alternative writings exist in all four bibles in NT section, being that the one writing of Matthew and five writings of John conflict with the remaining 21 writings in all four bibles in new testament section.

          Sally’s Bin: You say, “This alleged BIBLE”, unless I got it wrong it is one writing of James left out of bibles. Bibles are a collection of writings put together under one book cover. There are four bibles, not one (Catholic, Orthodox, Ethiopian and Protestant). The subject writing of video left out of bibles by men who came up with their particular bible (speaking of the 4 bibles) and believed the writing of James spoken of in the vid is not of God.

          The commentator on the vid starting around time 4:10 says that the churches focus on the divinity of Christ and have lost the humanity of Christ. And then states that the James writing refers to the first commune as recognizing Christ as a servant. THE EARLY CHURCHES MOCKED CHRIST, reducing him to less than the Lord God, the one who brought his people out of Egypt and the one who SOUGHT TO GATHER HIS PEOPLE UNDER HIS WINGS AS A HEN GATHERS HER CHICKS, BUT HIS PEOPLE WOULD NOT LET HIM (Matthew 23:37). The one who said I AM THE SON OF GOD (John 4:25-26, Matthew 16:16-17); furthermore,
          CHRIST’S HUMANITY? Christ is God who inhabitated a body that is the same flesh as mankind in order to be the sacrifice. Christ is the lamb of God slain before the foundation of the world (Rev. 13:8). He has the keys of death and of Hell (Rev. 1:18). Christ does not call us to look upon him as not a God! Here is Christ presenting himself to John:

          REVELATION 1:14 His head and his hair were white look wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were as a flame of fire. His feet were like fine brass and his voice as the sound of many waters. In his right hand seven stars and out of his mouth a sharp two-edged sword AND HIS COUNTENANCE WAS AS THE SUN SHINES IN ITS STRENGTH

          Does that sound to anyone like Christ wants us to view him as a man and not a God?!! Does that sound to anyone as though Christ wants us to pretend he is dead? Show forth his death continually via the Communion aka Eucharist? (1 Cor. 11:26). Pretend Christ is dead, which is why evil spirits are all over the Gentile church altars. That is not God striking with sicknessa and death so-called ‘unworthy’ Eucharist participants (1 Cor. 11:29-30). That is evil spirits who cause harm and bring death among those who kneel at the church altars because the church altars were established by Pharisees who are men of Satan.

          Wake up good people and trust ONLY the one writing of Matthew and five writings of John as being the only two witnesses of Christ that made it in all four bibles.

          1 Corinthians 11:26 Do that Eucharist as often as you want because every time you do, you show Christ DEAD until he comes

          And people wonder why there is so much darkness, and Christ told us ahead of time that a key sign of God’s coming judgment of the world that ends with the return of Christ is that the love of many will go cold, and as the Gentile church altars have spread over the earth like never before in the history of the world, THE WORLD GETS DARKER, not brighter because iniquity will abound, and among the workers of iniquity are those who say Lord, Lord, our great works, Lord our great works, how can you not know us (Matthew 7:22-23, 24:12).

          YOU CAN USE YOUR GOD GIVEN THINKING SKILLS PEOPLE TO WEED OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE AND DOES NOT MAKE SENSE, just as the jerks who put Pharisee writings in their bibles thought out what writings to include and what writings to exclude from their bibles. So look at James and Matthew AND DECIDE WHO DO YOU BELIEVE because one thing is indisputable JAMES CONFLICTS WITH MATTHEW:

          JAMES 3:2 Anyone who does not offend in word is a perfect man

          Or in other words, anyone who does offend in word is NOT a perfect man, keeping with what James stated in above passage. CHRIST OFFENDED THE PHARISEES IN WORD, so use your reasoning skills:

          1. Christ did offend the Pharisees in word and I believe Christ is the perfect, sinless Messiah, Son of God. So that makes James a lying writings of Pharisees for claiming only a perfect man does not offend in word, Christ offended in word:

          MATTHEW 15:12 Christ’s disciples said to him, do you know that the Pharisees were offended after they heard your saying?

          JOHN 8:44 You [Pharisees] are of your father, Satan

          Ya really think the Pharisees weren’t offended by Christ calling them the children of those who murdered God’s prophets and who will fill up the measure of their fathers! How about when Christ tells the Pharisees that yeah you guys are of the seed of Abraham, but you are of your father, Satan (John 8:37, 8:44)!

          ANOTHER LIE IN JAMES, 2:10 if you break one of God’s commandments, you are guilty of breaking them all. Pharisee lie to lend further justification for their claim that Christ nailed the law of God to the cross (Colossians 2:14). James 2:10 is a LIE, for Christ said there will be people in Heaven who BROKE the least of God’s commandments:

          MATTHEW 5:19 WHOEVER BREAKS ONE OF THE LEAST OF GOD’S COMMANDMENTS … shall be called Least in the kingdom of Heaven

          Broke the least of God’s commandments (and even taught others to do the same), yet they still make it to Heaven, so it is a LIE IN JAMES that to break one of God’s commandments is to break them all!

          WAKE UP GOOD PEOPLE, the children of Hell converts to Pharisees’ gospel of Paul never will. You must use your own reasoning skills, trust John and Matthew, not any other author of a writing in the New Testament but John and Matthew – they are the only two witnesses of Christ in the NT section in all four bibles.

          Mock that Tabernacle Pharisee false apostle Paul, so does the Beast:

          Rev. 13:6 … The beast blasphemed the Tabernacle of God ….

          Hebrews 13:10 Gentiles have an altar that those who serve the Tabernacle have NO RIGHT to eat at

          Paul is of Satan, he is a Pharisee. Peter is a lying writing of Pharisees. Forged under Peter’s name that does not hold up to scrutiny. Peter and his fellow apostles were told by Christ to take the same gospel to Gentiles (Matthew 10:18, 28:19, 3 John 1:7).

          The Pharisee lie in Galatians 2:7-8, two gospels, one for Gentiles, one for Jews

          TRUTH IS Revelation 14:6, ONE GOSPEL FOR ALL, as confirmed by Matthew 10:18, 28:19, 3 John 1:7 AND John 20:31 THESE THINGS WERE WRITTEN SO YOU MIGHT BELIVE AND HAVE ETERNAL LIFE

          So when the gospel of Paul claims God blinded the Jews, you are evil to believe Paul, for John relates what Christ taught and what he taught is the words of eternal life, stop doing evil so you have eternal life. Those who refuse to give up evil hate the light (John 3:19). John is the fellow apostle of Peter, and if you believe the gospel of Paul that Peter is just for Jews, then his fellow apostles John and Matthew are also just for Jews because it’s the same doctrine that Peter received

          ROMANS 15:8 Christ is the minister of Circumcision
          Galatians 2:7-8 Peter is of gospel of Circumcision. Paul is of the gospel of UN-Circumcision

          John and Matthew also of the gospel of Circumcision – WHO WANTS TO BE THE MORON WHO SAYS JOHN AND MATTHEW are not to be heeded by Gentiles? Yet that is what inexorably hold as being true if you believe on the gospel of Paul!

        • PaulTarsuss

          “IF the article is true”….

          Faith indeed.

        • yes2truth

          @ Pharisees.Liar

          The king of copy and paste is back with all his lazy delusional satanic drivel. :lol:

      • 123456

        a couple questions is it 1 in 3 or 3 in 1 is the father God the son God and the holy spirit God. are they all 1 God or 3
        did mary give birth to God as u claim

        • Pharisees.org

          Genesis 1:26 Let us make man in our image
          Matthew 28:19 Baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost

        • Louis

          Quite a lengthy rant from Pharisees.org — Satan himself couldn’t have said it better.

          What kind of website would call itself “Pharisees.org?” Named after the devil-worshipers who murdered Christ.

      • 123456

        and why are there so many versian of the bible with each one with different messages then the other

      • truthuncovered

        am123 I disagree without even rereading the book’s words you repost.

      • Beast of Revelation

        Lol, Paul was a false prophet. Let’s see here:

        Paul says all you have to do is believe in and worship Jesus to be saved.

        Satan says, “All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me”

        The moshiach says,”Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

        Paul never met Yeshua and yet he feels entitled to argue with the very apostles who did know him. There are 3 different accounts of Paul’s so called “revelation”, in which the third time he is flat out lying about his experience.

        Oh hey Paul how was your time in Ephesus?
        “If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.”

        “But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost.

        9 For a great door and effectual is opened unto me, and there are many adversaries.”

        Really? Sounds like a rough time, oh hey wait a second…

        Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

        2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

        Hmmmmmmm…. a false, lying apostle at Ephesus. Well then

        • Pharisees.org

          Rev. 2:2 Ephesus rejected the false apostles and Christ commends them for doing so
          2 Timothy 1:15 the anti-Christ Pharisee Paul cries that all of Asia rejected him

          Too bad, no altars, no money making Gentile churches for the Pharisees in Asia because they are the Jews of the Lord in Asia and they weren’t down with stealing money from Gentiles via a Paul’s false gospel. Some of those Jews of Asia had Paul tossed out of God’s Temple. They said Paul goes everywhere preaching against the Jews, against the Temple and against the law of Moses, and that indeed he does in the gospel of Paul!

          Paul and the Beast and Satan are tight, on the same page:

          Hebrews 13:10 Gentiles have an altar that those who serve the Tabernacle have no right to eat at

          Revelation 13:6 … The Beast blasphemed the Tabernacle of God ….

          ROMANS 3:7 I AM A LIAR
          Romans 9:1 I do not lie

          bible translators incorrectly use the term ‘church’ when it should read ‘synagogue’. There are only two altars of God (John 4:19-24).

          1. CHRIST SAYS HIS GOSPEL IS TESTIMONY AGAINST GENTILES AND KINGS (Matthew 10:18).

          2. THE GOSPEL OF PHARISEE PAUL IS FOR GENTILES AND KINGS (Romans 11:30-32, Romans Ch. 13).

          Wake up good people, come out of the churches! All churches are founded on the doctrine of Pharisees which is the gospel of Paul. And why did the Pharisees concoct a false gospel? TO SELL GENTILES AN ALTAR – Romans 15:27 Paul gloats that he has indoctrinated the Gentiles to turn over their money for spiritual teaching.

          Gospel of Paul, Paul the Pharisee of the tribe of Benjamin fulfills the prophecy of Jacob that in the last days the tribe of Benjamin is as a wolf who devours his prey and divides the spoils (Genesis 49:1, 49:27, Romans 15:27, Acts Ch. 4 and 5).

        • yes2truth

          Oh no, not two spiritually dead anti-Christ anti-Paul numpties on BIN. :lol: :lol: :lol:

          Someone please find them a couple of stones to crawl back under. Thank you.

      • Apollon

        Jesus was not god he did not claim this. Theirs barely enough proof he’s the son of god .im not saying god(creator ) is not real.

        • yes2truth

          No, what you’re doing is revealing how poorly informed you are.

          Yashua Anointed was The Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world.

          He was God with God when they said: “Let US make man in OUR image” as recorded in Genesis.

          Yashua Anointed was The Creator.

          Yashua Anointed was the FIRST and ONLY begotten of The Father i.e. Spiritually and physically. At 12 years of age and before He was baptised of John He said to His mother: “I must be about my Father’s business.”

          When people bowed down to Him He accepted their worship and their reverence and did not correct them as did Peter when someone bowed down to him. Yashua Anointed knew who He was and it’s time you knew.

    • POC2014

      Just like the Book of Thomas, Book of Judas, Book of Mary, Book of Barnabas and so forth. All are false and don’t predate the original autographs and contradict the Bible. If ANYTHING contradicts, adds or removes from the Bible it is FALSE and should be denied and cast away.

      Its just an attack on the Word of God something the Apostles warned about. Jesus is called the Son of God hundreds of times in the Bible including in these passages.

      I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art MY SON; this day have I begotten thee -Psalm 2:7

      Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is HIS SON’S NAME, if thou canst tell? – Proverb 30:4

      • strokethekitty

        I feel compelled to explain something to you and that am guy. You guys need to do some friggin research on your own religion. You just claimed that if anything was removed or added to the bible then it should he labeled as false. What you dont understand is the bible is a collection of books, it itself is not ONE complete book. The collection was canonized during several meetings of the highest priests of catholicism, including the emporer constantine. These meetings were held for the sole purpose as to decide which books to include into this collection (called the bible) and which books were to be excluded because they did not represent their intended thesis for the bible. So, books like the book of enoch, barnabus, etc, were all excluded during the canonization of the bible, despite the fact that these books were just as credible as those that were excepted, and more often than not, the excluded books actually are older than the canonized books, of which were found to actually be copies of copies of copies of forgeries.

        People like you guys are so blind, its disgusting. I cant understand how you dont see that the newest versions of the bible say that anything else besides what they say is blasphemous, yet they themselves are different from the original texts themselves.

        If you truely believe these newly edited versions of the bible are more truthful than the original books, then call your faith what it really is. Its not christianity. Not in the original sense of the word. Its “New/Editted Christianity.”

        I would have more respect for you in this case…

    • T0RCHW00D

      The Lord created Adam. Adam was perfect and without Blemish or Sin. Adam was corrupted when he went against The Lord’s command and was deceived by Eve and ate from The Tree of Knowledge. Adam Is The Son Of God, Jesus Is The Resurrected Son Of God, Jesus is Adam, Adam is Jesus! Adam Died In Sin, God Resurrected Adam To Be Reborn Without Sin, So He May Live And Renew Gods Covenant With His Son Adam, The First Man, So Adam Could Enter Into The House Of His Father, So Adam Could Renew His Covenant With His Father, To Obey His Father And Be Without Blemish Or Sin, Adam’s Father The Lord God, So All The Sons Of Adam Could Enter Into The House Of Our Father, The Lord God! Adam/Jesus is one and the same! ADAM/JESUS THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE SON OF GOD, WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE SON OF GOD Adam/Jesus! Behave and Act Accordingly!

      • TruthBeyondReason

        i don’t think that’s correct… if so then Adam/Jesus has resurrected twice already (1. Adam’s creation 2. Jesus’ birth/1st resurrection 3. Jesus Death/2nd resurrection to heaven)… which is not true… Plus you can’t be a son of somebody unless you’re born… Adam was created… and life was breathed into him… I could be wrong tho…

    • iamamerican

      Just because the book didn’t name Jesus as the son of God, doesn’t mean he wasn’t, and just because the book didn’t talk about the resurrection doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Jesus tried to teach a code of morals to live by. We obviously don’t care about a moral code these days with all the sick depravity going on. Once the government has everybody believing that there is no god, then we will lose all of our freedoms because the constitution and bill of rights, are rights enumerated by god.

    • Pix

      The video has nothing to do with your false claim “Oldest Bible Found In Palestine Confirms Jesus Was A Servant of God”. It proves the bible story is not unique or original to Christianity. Christianity is ancient Mithraism wearing a new name. It is where baptism, the last supper, a half human half divine redeemer of mankind in an immaculate conception and born on 25th december, walked on water, fed the many from fish and bread, performed miracles, associated with the lion and the lamb, a heaven populated by beautified ones and a hell populated by the dishonored dead, a flood at the beginning and a world battle and judgement upon a final conflagration of the universe. Same church hierarchy, costumes, dogma, festivals dates and all. None of which originates from Judaism.

      • Pix

        The only difference between Mithra and Jesus, is that Mithra redeems those lost in the underworld, everyone else makes it to a heaven according to the idividual. If I had to choose one over the other it would have to be Mithraism. The Christian version is perverted and cruel in the claim an all compassionate god would torture it’s sensitive thinking feeling creation in a hell for all eternity, and the heavenly afterlife consists of fawning to god non stop for all eternity. Talk about super narcissistic, not even the odd 5 minute fag break ffs.

        :lol:

        • begone

          you speak as though it is his desire to torture but it is not for his desire would be that all be saved. it is our own actions that will torture us not him. pix if it is homosexuality that is what stops you from understanding there is nothing wrong with man loving man or woman loving woman what is tho is the sexual act between them, love is expressed in far better things then sex as sex is a physical thing designed only for procreation not to express love. unfortunately many can not see a difference but it is our acts of kindness towards one another that show forth love. it truly is a shame that you refuse to open your heart and eyes to wisdom. its about the ability to gain perfection and is that something we all want. but i suppose this is where our views on what is perfect differ and i can not convince you as to what i know the truth to be just as you could not convince me of what you believe or don’t believe yet still with differing opinions why should a stupid thing as that produce hate towards one another. just because we don’t agree would never stop me from helping you if you needed it. same goes to anybody and that is how we should treat one another. you don’t walk away from someone in need because you don’t like them ( well i don’t anyway ) always think if the shoe was on the other foot and you yourself need help i am sure you would not want others walking away or ignoring you simply because of anything. ( to everybody ) for example if you were on the edge of a cliff and fell but grabbed hold of a ledge but began to slip and the only person around was Adolf Hitler you would want him to help you regardless of what he had done or regardless of you think he would help you would still want him to and it is up to the person who has the ability to save to make the right decision and help.

        • Pix

          begone “you speak as though it is his desire to torture but it is not for his desire would be that all be saved. it is our own actions that will torture us not him.”

          After being judged and condemned to torture for all eternity, and for the most piffling misnomer of disbelief. You are justifying brutality of a claimed all compassionate IT. Eternal torture is not compassion in any way. It’s only purpose would be for the righteous to have something to gloat over, hell would serve no other purpose seeing as there would be no coming back from hell. Pathetic, if the objective is to forgive, then why doesn’t it, it’s not like forgiving is difficult or needs a horrendous human blood sacrifice to achieve. The bible makes it very clear that god has a forgiveness problem and is morally inferior.

          “pix if it is homosexuality that is what stops you from understanding..” Oh eff off. Trust a religious person to vilify as a reason for some other persons disbelief. I’m not homosexual, I’m educated. I know for a fact your religion is pagan Mithraism wearing a new name, as dose everyone who has attended 1st year theology. “love is expressed in far better things then sex”.. Eh???? there are many levels to love, you would condemn homosexuals to a life of celibacy because it offends your sensibilities?… you are role playing your deity so you can do the judging. Thus proving your disbelief it exists. If you really believed it you would stfu about what other people do in private, and allow your deity to do the judging instead.

          What wisdom are you talking about? A god that sets bears on little kids to maul them to death for cheeking their elders? A god that lies, is contrary, brutal, cruel and completely narcissistic? A god with only one solution for everything including eating shellfish and wearing mixed fabrics,.. death. Into genocides, rape, slavery, sexism, eternal torture for piffling misnomers, blood sacrifices including human ones?.. no thanks I have far better morals. In fact just about everyone has far better morals.

          :wink:

        • truthuncovered

          Pix that is a very enlightening read. Thank you

          It does seem you are one of the only ones that is questioning serving a human before a god..
          I have some information on jesus. I will post it below

        • Pix

          begone. If you are claiming god created everything. Then it also created hell with a deliberate intent to torture it’s sensitive thinking feeling creation in it. As you also claim it is all knowing, then it must be with deliberate intent to torture. You can’t have it both ways, it is either all knowing or it isn’t,.. which is it?

          If it’s all knowing it would have no need to judge after the fact. It would already know everything since it magically popped into existence. In prophesy we are judged thousands of years before we are born. No free will would be possible if it is the actual future. We would be left with predestination to follow the known future exactly like a preprogrammed Sim. Depressing and disempowering, it would be pure evil for deliberately in full awareness creating evil for the sole purpose of torture.

          If it’s not all knowing, why call it god?

      • ecclesiatical

        pix do you consider something that is 2000 years old as new? where is mithraism today? the 25 th of December was chosen to coincide with the feasts carried out by pagans not because it is the actual date and what difference does it make when was HE born? why are so uptight ?If HE is a hoax and the rest of all the things you have been insinuating why keep writing ?why are there so many millions of books written about HIM ? tell me something Horus said which is still valid today,tell us something anyone said in the past 5000 years which still makes sense today,(this world will pass but my words will remain)There is only one GOD that is why you cannot find Him cause you have made yourself his equal, Talk about super narcissistic,we know what you aren’t ,why don’t tell us what you are? GOD does not condemn the being but the act,this grudge you have against Christian doctrine is probably caused by a Christian but not by GOD you cannot blame GOD for things done by someone just because he created that someone be it Christian or otherwise.make your words soft and sweet ,one day you might have the need to eat them :idea:

        • Pix

          Mithraism was the largest religion through out the middle east and Europe. It more or less vanished overnight at the same time Christianity was invented, 5th century CE.

          It is where all of Christianities dogma originates including baptism, the last supper, a world history that begins with a flood and ends with a judgement after a final battle upon a final conflagration of the universe, a heaven populated by beautified ones in the upper regions, a hell populated by evil beings in the lower regions. Same church hierarchy, same rituals, dogma, costumes, festivals dates and all, and most of the oldest Christian churches were once dedicated to Mithra. The story is pagan astronomical allegory. Mithraism is a version of the ancient Egyptian Osiris Isis Horus story, thousands of years older than Christianity.

          Taking that into account with the fact that Christianity doesn’t have a single scrap of substantiation for any of it’s claims,.. Christianity is Mithraism wearing a new name.

    • ScreenName

      Found in palestine??? I think you mean ISARAEL, there is no such place on GODS earth named palestine

      • yes2truth

        There is no place now that should be called Israel. The present Rothschild state of Israel is unlawful.

        The Northern Kingdom of Israel after its Assyrian invasion became Samaria in 725 BC. The Southern Kingdom was then known as Judah and in Christ’s time it was known as Judea. Judea disappeared in 70 AD with the Roman invasion.

        This means that Palestine is as valid a name as Samaria. Time you learnt The Truth instead of believing mainstream Christian myths.

        • ecclesiatical

          When hitler invaded Poland and France they became a part of Germany ,but today they are still called by their names,what disappears through war doesn’t mean it disappears from the map(geographically)

        • yes2truth

          What a pathetic analogy and comment.

          Hitler lost the war if I remember correctly. :shock:

          France was liberated and restored. Poland disappeared in all but name under Soviet domination. To all intents and purposes Poland ceased to exist. Odd to think that we went to war over Poland and failed to liberate them and through that outcome let’s us know what the war was really about – a Bolshevik Marxist Jew world.

          Israel disappeared completely and was renamed Samaria. Just get over it and move on.

        • ecclesiatical

          Yes you could say that cause I am only 14 years old :lol: but in my school they taught me that what happened in north/south america is called colonization not wars and invasions,if you want to learn something there is an empty chair next to me.In john 8 38:45 Jesus was talking about their arrogance and the hu-man,are you sure you don’t have any Jewish blood? :twisted: somehow you remind of peter in Matthew 16:23 the chair offer is still on

        • yes2truth

          If you’re 14 then you had better start listening for the first time in your life to someone who knows what he is talking about and is also old enough to be your grandfather.

          You also need to know that you know nothing, seeing as you have been brainwashed most of your VERY SHORT LIFE in a Bolshevik Marxist Jew conditioning centre erroneously called a school. Your real education has not even begun.

          In John 8:38-45 Yashua Anointed is telling the Canaanite Jews who their father was i.e. a liar and murderer from the beginning – the Devil. It’s quite obvious that you did not read it.

      • Pix

        Israel was a people, not a place. It has never been a place. Israel was wiped off the face of Earth by the Roman empire in 70 CE. The military occupation of Palestine by modern theological Jews, ie European WW2 refugees, are not Israelites. The Israelites by their own admission were Egyptian in origin, not European. Modern Judaism is a debatable theological religion that was invented post 70 CE. It isn’t that much older than Christianity.

        For them to call occupied Palestine Israel, is no different than a bunch of delinquent Harry Potter fans taking over you home at gun point, and renaming it Hogwarts… it doesn’t make it Hogwarts, but complete BS. The Israelites followed/practiced a way of life, it was not a couple hour hobby per week as it is now.

        :lol:

    • qlj

      Once again, another BBC “religious” production quietly and passively denying Jesus and denouncing Christian belief. All presented by a well-meaning liberal state church Christian with a sympathetic voice. They’ve done this enough times before. It shouldn’t come as a surprise, since the UK is the home of the New World Order and owned by the Rothschilds, and our Anglican churches have masonic cornerstones or capstones.

      Examples of a previous BBC “religious” broadcast: “compelling new proof” that Noah was in fact a river trader who owned a larger-than-normal raft that sailed up and down the Bosphorus trading goods and food and was caught in a giant flood when the glaciers of the Ararat Mountain range melted quickly and burst their natural dams, and “Noah”, who survived this ordeal, woke up wet and bedraggled in the Caspian or Black Sea, and the world had “disappeared” and everything was water as far as he could see. What was this “compelling new proof”? The Gilgamesh Epic. What was “Noah’s” real name? Gilgamesh. Was it “compelling” and “proof”? No. Archaeologists knew about the Babylonian Gilgamesh Epic since the early 20th Century and found it to be mythical and legendary in nature and contained elements that corresponded to a global flood story – along with thousands of others from all over the world – yet which bore little actual connection or relation to the Noahic flood tradition. It was dismissed by leading early 20th Century archaelogists, because it was in fact a Babylonian/Mesapotamian legend about a GIANT called Gilgamesh who goes on a series of fantastical adventures that had great resonance with the symbology and legends of the Babylonian civilization, and any flood theology it contained corresponded more with ancient Babylonian traditions than with any biblical one.

      Of course, none of this history about the Gilgamesh Epic was highlighted in the BBC “religious” broadcast. It said nothing about the fact that it was discovered in the early 20th Century and that the Noahic explanation depicted was in fact one of first attempts to harmonize the biblical Noahic tradition with the Gilgamesh Epic, and which was dismissed outright as garbage by all the archaeological authorities of that time. Nothing was mentioned about Gilgamesh being a GIANT or of his other fantastical adventures.

      This is how the BBC do their “religious” broadcasting. So I wouldn’t take too much from this broadcast either. They aired a program about two years ago on the “newly discovered” Gospel of Judas, a gnostic gospel that had been known about for centuries, and was written by gnostics trying to undermine Christianity in the 3rd Century AD.

    • truthuncovered

      This is the story as taught by the levels of enlightenment of the freemasons………….

      There was a ruler named Cesar. His wife could not bear children. So he went to his concubine ISIS. Together they made a child. When the child was born unto the ruler and his wife they celebrated a very public celebration. In that celebration the people of his land proclaimed the wife of Cesar to be a virgin mother……………….Cesar proclaimed himself a god…….. His son the prince. So here we have a birth of the son of a god , by a virgin mother……

      Ceaser did not live like a god when his “cabinet of advisers” decided to murder him and his wife. The concubine or keeper of the child rushed him to the safety of his family. Marcus Antony and Cleopatra. Upon arriving in Cleopatra’s realm there was another ceremony. The ceremony of the King of Kings. Very public.. Cleopatra named the child the King of Kings because he was the ruler of Rome and the new heir to Egypt. He would hold all the power in the world.
      Yet Cleopatra and Marcus committed suicide. Again the child was rushed to safety. The children of Cleopatra and Marcus Antony numbered 3. A boy and girl twin and another boy. Cleopatra Selene, and Alexander Helios , and the younger son, Ptolemy Philadelphus

      The King of kings was taken by an uncle king. His uncle Joseph took him to the “Tibet” area to secure trade routes…That is where he stayed and studied the faith of the monks. It is written by the monks that upon “enlightenment” the child took the name “jesus”…..

      Upon returning to his land he went after his brothers and sister. He found his sister and supposedly stated “I am the King of Kings. I have come to reclaim my throne. Will you help me?” When Seline replied “yes” he named here “Mary of high places”. He then went and found his brothers.

      This account might lend a better explanation as to why Rome killed the “king” and then after the death of jesus, They sought each apostle and killed them till none was left. No witnesses to the murder of a king and his family.

      His story gets mixed with the story of Horus an a few others. Thank you for reading. if there is something I left out please ask for the information. I will try and find the right words and story for you.

      • truthuncovered

        the name ISIS is why the story get muddled with another story of god’s and children. The name of the concubine and the name of a god.

        the story of how Cesar became a god is self explanitory……….etc. etc……..

        the elite know this story. They let you starve in ignorance and deception in your souls. Your energies and creations stolen before you can even understand their worth….

        I do not care what anyone says. The worship of a human before a god is what it is. So if you want to worship a human then go for it. I will not.

        The dedication of the spirit is beautiful to us. They use what we find beautiful and pure against us. We feel pity for the wrong people because our point of view is changed.

      • Pix

        Yep. His name was Iesous, and nick named Ceasarion. The only begotten son of god the Roman emperor Julius Ceasar, via the Greek Egyptian pharaoh Cleopatra/Isis Meri. which means ‘royal virgin’, virgin meant an unmarried young women, not as it does today. They did marry in Egypt but it was not recognised in Rome.

        Everything that could and did affect their lives was called a god. From despotic dictators to slaves, Roman gladiators, the peoples true gods, because people followed them like we follow football teams, and from a gentle breeze to natural disasters. Everything that caused an effect was a god.

        Ceasarion was the only begotten son Ceasar had. He had an adopted son who took over after Ceasar was assassinated on the Senate steps and Antony had been defeated… Octavian/Augustus. Cleopatra had other children by Antony. Their names are identical with the biblical Jesus’s siblings.

        Antony was defeated in battle, Cleopatra on hearing the news killed herself, Ceasarion had to flee for his life because his rival Augustus would have butchered him. He fled into the wilderness, well it would be compared to his previous pampered life. He was eventually captured and crucified on the orders of Augustus. But it was common practice for the wealthy to buy a stand in to take their place. So it is possible he fled to India and lived the rest of his life in exile.

        The story gets mixed up with the Osiris Isis Horus story because they associated themselves with those deities. Same as Roman emperor Caligula associated himself with Zeus. Got his sister pregnant so followed the story by cutting her open and eating the fetus from her womb. Unlike the Zeus story Caligula’s sister died.

        The indoctrinated don’t get that when the bible says it was inspired by god, they meant the person who instigated and paid for its creation, the worst insane despot of them all, Roman emperor Constantine, a zealous devout follower of Mithras.

        :lol:

    • yes2truth

      The Oldest Bible? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

      A video narrated by an satanic religious disso who frequently appears on the Jesuit controlled BBC (the British Buggery Corporation). :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

      He’s shown a ‘book’ when book binding was unheard of in those times.

      The stench of The Devil and his lies is permeating through my computer screen. :mad:

      • yes2truth

        Yashua Anointed was known as The Son of man or as a son of Adam in order to separate Him from human beings. A hu-man is NOT a man. Hu from the Gaelic/Hebrew means serpent.

        Hu-man beings are Cainites and Canaanites – serpent men, NOT men.

        • ecclesiatical

          ,it is irrelevant who wins wars and who loses them what I meant was that when someone invades were you live it doesn’t seize to exist,your argument is so contradictory that a one point you said the Jews are hu-mans which means Canaanites which is a part of Israel and the Jews did live in samaria. It is you who needs to move on cause I am not a Jew and I was taught to love thee enemy in order to speak the truth cause the truth is GODS friend but who is the friend of truth God only knows,what I wrote was not in their defense,if you read whats in the Talmud it is a lost case,what I wrote was to defend the truth

        • yes2truth

          Now your nonsense has reached infant school level:

          You said:

          “It is irrelevant who wins wars and who loses them what I meant was that when someone invades were you live it doesn’t seize to exist.”

          Tell that to those who are defeated in wars and invasions e.g. the South and North American Indians.

          Israel was removed completely from God’s sight out of the land of Israel that was originally known as Canaan. So here we have another example of a geographical location originally known as Canaan being renamed as Israel. No one calls it Canaan today.

          After the Assyrian invasion of Israel it too ceased to exist as a nation and as a people in that location. How many times must it be said before it sinks into your head?

          The Canaanite Jew is the Devil’s Seed. Read John 8:38-45 and learn something.

      • ecclesiatical

        No2halftruths of course you are old enough to be my grandfather,you think I did not know?,that’s why I offered you the chair in the first place :wink: I think you should change your nick to Solomon,and stop being so patronizing,age has nothing to do with knowing besides you chose what not to answer,God created man in HIS image .Is God a serpent?I retract the offer of the chair cause you will not be accepted in my school ,but you will be accepted in a ego removing schNool :twisted: ( Blessed are the meek),read the whole new testament not the ones that you choose and learn something, Matthew 5:5 growing old is mandatory,growing up is a choice,God bless you and peace be with you,

    • Anonymous

      Jesus is a 17th Century creation of God in man’s image. There never was a man named Jesus Christ. The Savior had a Hebrew name but the scribes and rabbis obscured it, just like they obscured the real name of God 7,000 times in scripture. If you don’t know His name, how can you know God?

      You worship the sacrificial lamb? Look to scripture. Did the ancient Hebrews turn around and worship the lamb after it was burnt on the altar. They tried that with a golden calf (substitute crucifix here) and you see what that got them.

      Not one Christian can be saved, not one! Go back and read what God really testified to us in the Books of the Torah, Prophets and Psalms. Walk away from Babel.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “…just like they obscured the real name of God 7,000 times in scripture.”

        Actually 8,623 times in the Old Testament alone.

        And yes, that IS the actual number.

    • Truthseeker007

      This is easy.The Jesus of the Bible actually didn’t exist.See here for a start:

      First of all, you have to realize that Jesus was a composite of different entities and the name was chosen several hundred years later at the Council of Nicea, wherein the entity Constantine ordered the various religious sects to come together and create a single religion for Rome, a Universal religion that incorporated all of the aspects of the various religions, so that all could accept and subscribe to it.

      The combination of the many different Roman religious orders or organizations, the different religious sects, forming a composite in which the central heroic character was the Son of God, having 12 disciples, being born of a virgin, whose intent and purpose was to help save mankind, and for his efforts, the entity was slain and put upon a cross; the entity also having certain miraculous powers, including that of those who can heal by touch, or raise from the dead or move into states of suspended animation, such as some of the masters of India have demonstrated in various times throughout history.

      The New Testament is assembled from patterns related to stories taken from earlier sources, such as Zoroastrian, Mithrain, Krishna, Buddhism, and Egyptian, and others, in which many verses are literally paraphrasing earlier writings, and many of the stories attributed to the story of Jesus, were lifted directly out of these other writings. The story of Jesus at the well, as one which was taken from earlier writings.

      There were those who had proposed the name Zeus, but many objected because Zeus was a Greek God and the Romans wanted nothing to do with Greek gods. Therefore they sought to find a Roman name, or a name that was neutral, which Rome could use as its own god, and the name that came eventually to the forefront was the name Jesus, or Hesus (pronounced heysoos) and it was a Hebrew term that meant “neither He nor She.” It was neutral.

      The further name of Christ was originally Christos. Hesus Christos and Christos meant the Clear One, or Enlightened One, or Jesus the Enlightened One. The Christed entity had been traditionally recognized long before this time. The Greek had a character whose name was Krestus, and Krestus or krest meant the height or the top, and there were the various other types of Christs

      read more:
      http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/master_file/jesusmyth.htm

      • LifeIs

        Truthseeker 007 that is not anything like true. Jesus’ organization founded churches in India, Africa, Asia Minor, and Europe, in the 1st century.

        Peter was a close associate, and Peter wrote letters. Paul knew Jesus’ family and associates,
        and Paul wrote many letters.

        Jesus’ name was the Hebrew name Yeshua, or Joshua. Christ is from the Greek for “anointed one,” signifying that he was the Messiah. It wasn’t a name.

        • Truthseeker007

          There Were Many “Christs” Prior to Jesus

          There was a black Christ or Christed One in certain cultures and other cultures had their version of the Christed One. In India it was known as Krishna. Krishna is the Indian version of a Christed being. There were many Christs prior to Jesus. The term was used even as far back as Atlantis, and therefore, when they sought for a further defining term to call their new composite in the new religion of Rome, the concept of Hesus Christos, Jesus the Christ was the result and most entities could accept that because they had no hostility toward either term.

          The Value of the Myth is Real but Historically is false

          The value of the myth is absolutely totally real, and its effect on entities is absolutely totally real, but the historical aspects have been distorted so that when people speak of a shroud that covered Jesus, even if it were the genuine shroud, it might actually have been a shroud that covered someone else: Apollonius perhaps, or some other entity who died upon a cross in the company of thousands of otherwise who died upon the cross during that time.

          There was of course an entity whose name was Hesus and this entity came from Nazareth, lived in the area of Nazareth, and therefore, there was an entity Jesus of Nazareth who was one of the various entities in the composite; but much of the information attributed to the composite was information relating to other entities: Apollonius of Tyana for one, Krishna for another, and the Sun God of the Roman sun worshippers Helios as another.

        • Truthseeker007

          The very existence of Jesus has not been proven.although the existence of Julius Caesar, or Queen Elizabeth, etc., is accepted worldwide, the same is not true of Jesus. In the Far East where the major religions are Buddhism, Shinto, Taoism and Confucianism, Jesus is considered to be just another character in Western religious mythology, on a par with Thor, Zeus and Osiris. Most Hindus do not believe in Jesus, but those who do consider him to be one of the many avatars of the Hindu god Vishnu. Muslims certainly believe in Jesus but they reject the New Testament story and consider him to be a prophet who announced the coming of Muhammed. They explicitly deny that he was ever crucified.
          To sum up, there is no story of Jesus which is uniformly accepted worldwide. It is this fact which puts Jesus on a different level to established historical personalities.

        • yes2truth

          You are full of so much youtube BS and crap it’s difficult to know where to start.

          Yashua Anointed was white and most likely had red hair and it was definitely short, not long. Yashua Anointed was a descendant of Adam and Shem who were also white.

          There are records of Geek intellectuals of the day arguing about the resurrection i.e. did it happen or not. They were NOT arguing about whether Yashua Anointed existed or not. The fact that he existed was a given, making the intellectuals of Greece under the Roman Empire better informed than you.

          The only distortions therefore are the garbage of your comments.

    • sten

      JK Rowling wrote a book about a boy wizard DOES THAT THEN PROVE ITS TRUE???? just because you find a document WRITTEN BY MEN is not PROOF of anything and the religious fools follow it because they desperately need to feel they are right, oh dear. Keep taking the medication.

      • ecclesiatical

        Have you ever met your great, great,great grandfather? ?probably not, but doesn’t prove he he didn’t exist does it,even his birth certificate is written by men,if your grandparents show you a photo of him would believe them?probably yes,and that is because of something called faith and no this is not about the desperate need to feel right but it is about those desperate being in the wrong,and please make your words soft and sweet ,one day you might have the need to eat them :idea:

    • LifeIs

      Contemporary documents are one kind of evidence, of Jesus’ life. The other kind of evidence iis that Jesus’ organization- and his family- did things that are documented and referenced by other writers. They changed the world.

      There is no reason to doubt the life of Jesus.

      A separate issues is the comparison to other religious beliefs in the ancient world.

      I suppose Truthseeker007 doubts the story of Titanic, on the grounds that essentially the same story appeared in a novel, 14 years earlier.

      The novel was “Futility,” later re-titled “The Wreck of the Titan,” by Morgan Robertson. It
      was published in 1898. It was about a large ocean liner named the Titan, which struck an
      iceberg in the north Atlantic and sank. There are many similarities to the story of Titanic.
      Check out the Wikipedia article.

    • predictability

      To the arthur of this published article.
      Yes! JESUS is true just remember
      the Word not Mans doing because
      God said it himself No man woman or child king prince is
      perfect.
      peace predictability.

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