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The Most Overlooked of the Ten Commandments by a Billion Christians, the 2nd Commandment

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Summary: Catholic translations of the Bible are accurate and show the 2nd Commandment as You shall not make any graven images. Nevertheless, the catechism does not teach it. We take a closer look at the wisdom and reason behind this commandment.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.

This 2nd commandment forbids worshiping God by images or representations. Those who do claim that their images are merely figures or symbols by which Deity is worshiped, but God has forbidden it.

Representing the Eternal One by objects that we make lowers our conception of God. The mind, turned from the infinite, is attracted to the creature rather than the Creator. Giving time or focus of worth (worth-ship) to objects of our own hands may be idolatry.

The conmandment also says, I, the Lord thy God, am a jealous God. The close, sacred relation of God to His people is represented as marriage. Idolatry is spiritual adultery, and God’s displeasure is jealousy.

Visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me. Children suffer from the consequences of parental wrong-doing, Usually children walk in the ways of their parents. By heredity and example children become like their parents. Their tendencies, perverted appetites, and morals, as well as physical disease and degeneracy, are transmitted to the children. This fearful truth should restrain us from following a life of sin.

Showing mercy unto thousands of them that love Me, and keep My commandments. Mercy is promised to those who are faithful in God’s service, not just to the third and fourth generation like the wrath on the ungodly, but to thousands who love and serve God.

Protestant Reformers were united in their view that the papacy was the little horn power that grew out of the 4th beast in Daniel 7 where the lion, bear, leopard and dragon represented Babylon, Medo-Persia, Grecia and Rome, but the little horn “thinks to change times and laws,” Daniel 7:25.

In eliminating the 2nd Commandment from the catechism, there was a dilemma of 9 commandments. The 10th was then divided to make ten–not coveting your neighbor’s wife, and coveting his goods.

This difference is probably behind the trouble of displaying the 10 Commandments in courtrooms or claasrooms. Which version shall we use? A difference in wording might also be a problem for the Jews with the 6th Commandment that we will discuss later in this series on the 10 Commandments.

The Greeks had a problem understanding who God is, and they had an image to the Unknown God. Paul told them, The times of this ignorance God winks at, but commands repentance in a time of judgment (when we may get better information.,Acts 17:30,31) This implies that we should go by the best information that we can find, especially when it comes to our worship and service to God.

Dr Richard Ruhling is a graduate of a Bible college with enough courses for a major in religion. In retirement, he finds much meaning in current events as they fit Bible prophecy. His greatest interest is in the wedding parables which he believes are misunderstood as a rapture. He has a dozen reasons why not a rapture at http://ChooseABetterDestiny.com/rapture.htm He is available for programming on health, current events and Bible prophecy topics that you can see on his webpage at http://RichardRuhling.com He may be contacted by email to [email protected]



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    • fuzzy696

      Just goes to show how the whole religion scam is CRAPollah

      • Dr Richard Ruhling

        Dear Fuzzy,

        The Bible says, “The times of this ignorance God winks at, but commands us to repent in a time of judgment (when there is better information?) Acts 17:30,31.

        We should recognize the many evidences of God’s creative power, wisdom and love, and try to do the best we know to please Him. This includes a better understanding of His Word which is still the all-time #1 best-seller, not just for weak women and children.

        • Country Boy

          Richard,
          You sound like a man of strong faith…praise the Lord for that Brother. However, I must set the record straight on the images thing because if you read history this controversy was settled by some great medieval theologians.

          The Incarnation..that is the coming of Jesus through Mary was SOMETHING HEAVENLY (G0D) CREATED AS AN EARTHLY IMAGE ON EARTH. So if God could create/image the most Holy thing of all on Earth..his presence….for us to see him and his ministry and focus our hearts to him why cannot we use other images to focus our hearts to heavenly things also. Not that we must do so or we have to use images-but the Incarnation of Christ himself draws this conclusion to an obvious yes and blows the no images argument out of the water. Case closed! Christ himself was an image of Heaven on Earth!

        • Pharisees.org

          RUHLING you freaking child of Hell dope. Your master anti-Christ CLEARLY teaches DO NOT FOLLOW GOD’s COMMANDMENTS

          Colossians 2:14 Christ nailed the law to the cross

          Ruhling is a jerk, because he knows but he remains silent. ALL CHURCHES ARE FOUNDED SOLELY ON THE DOCTRINE OF PHARISEE PAUL, the anti-Christ

          PAUL SAYS AM THE PREACHER OF UN-CIRCUMCISION (Galatians 2:7-8)

          PAUL SAYS CHRIST IS THE PREACHER OF CIRCUMCISION (Romans 15:8)

          Ruhling is a pompous arrogant, blind follower of a blind Pharisee and no matter that he disagrees with his master, he still says Bibles are all the word of God and Pharisee Paul is of God.

          An old washed up fool who I am already well aware is a child of Hell because he has insisted that Pharisee Paul is an apostle of Christ.

          Yo Ruhling, you freaking psycho, being you are well-read in that bible you claim is all the word of God so you freak child Hell agree with the following, just a true supreme moron :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

          1 Cor. 2:16 … We have the mind of Christ

          To the children of Hell like Richard Ruhling, only the Son of God has the mind of the Son of God, only God the Father has the mind of God the Father and only the Holy Spirit has the mind of the Holy Spirit

          Romans 7:19 I do not know how to do good and I HAVE THE MIND OF GOD

          2 Cor Ch. 12 I got too puffed up with pride so Satan came along to help me not be so prideful and I HAVE THE MIND OF GOD

          1 Cor. 13:12 I see darkly now, only partly, but I’ll know more later on and I HAVE THE MIND OF GOD

          Romans 7:24 I am a wretched man and I HAVE THE MIND OF GOD

          :lol: :lol: :lol: ruhling how will you escape hell? It’s your future:

          Matthew 23:15 PHARISEES AND THEIR CONVERTS ARE CHILDREN OF HELL

          Acts 23:6 I AM A PHARISEE and the SON OF A PHARISEE

          Philippians 3:5 … I AM A PHARISEE OF THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN

          Genesis 49:1, 49:27 … in the last days … BENJAMIN is as a WOLF who DEVOURS his prey and divides the spoils

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Oy. Pharisee.

          You dropped your pitchfork, mate.

          Give me your address and I’ll mail it to you.

          Cheers.

        • Pharisees.org

          CHRIST DROPPED HIS PITCH FORK? :lol: :lol: :lol: I’m quoting my master’s doctrine, so to mock that I call Ruhling a child of Hell is to mock Christ:

          MATTHEW 23:15 PHARISEES AND THEIR CONVERTS ARE CHILDREN OF HELL

          The Christians’ apostle IS A PHARISEE. Ruhling believes that Paul is of God, therefore he is a child of Hell. He is VERY WELL ACQUAINTED with Paul’s doctrine and the EVIL DISGUSTING RUHLING LOVES LOVES LOVES the Pharisee’s doctrine

          THE EVIL CHRISTIANS DENY THEIR APOSTLE IS A PHARISEE, but that ain’t what Paul says of himself:

          Acts 23:6 I AM A PHARISEE and the SON OF A PHARISEE

          Christ says Pharisees are GENERATIONAL MEN OF SATAN, because they are the children of the fathers who murdered God’s prophets and Christ say the Pharisees FILL UP THE MEASURE of their Pharisee fathers (Matthew 23:30-35).

          Philippians 3:5 I AM A PHARISEE OF THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN

          Genesis 49:1, 49:27 IN THE LAST DAYS … BENJAMIN IS AS A WOLF who devours his prey and divides the spoils

          DEVOURED, they become children of Hell converts to the BENJAMIN WOLF

          SPOILS, I TAUGHT THE GENTILES IT IS THEIR DUTY TO GIVE US MONEY (Romans 15:27)

        • Pharisees.org

          Yeah, child of Hell ruhling your anti-Christ master’s doctrine is not just for weak children and women, it is also for morons like yourself, evil people like you.

          Acts 17:30-31 IS A LIE. God never winked at ignorance, HE PUNISHED EVILDOERS during the reign of prophesying by the prophets and the law. Ruhling is a dope, he doesn’t understand Christ’s doctrine because HE IS EVIL, AN EVIL CHILD OF HELL

          Matthew 11:13 The law and the prophets prophesied UNTIL John the Baptist

          Matthew 3:2, 4:17, 10:7 – REPENT BECAUSE THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS COMING

          No more ‘repent or wrath’.

          ALL TIME #1 BEST SELLER and those who worship bibles, think they can adopt Pharisee doctrine because Pharisee doctrine is in all four bibles (21 writings new testament section), they can adopt Pharisee doctrine and still make it to Heaven.

          THERE ARE TWO GROUPS THAT CALL CHRIST LORD:

          1. Those who believe on Christ’s gospel (Matthew and John) and REJECT the disgusting doctrine of Pharisee Paul, the false apostle

          2. Those who claim to be of Christ but they doctrine they follow is Pharisee Paul’s gospel. They preach GRACE, NO MORE LAW. They are workers of lawlessness, grace no more law

          WORKERS OF LAWLESS, DEPART FROM ME. I NEVER KNEW YOU

          But Lord Lord we did so many wonderful works in your name. We got works, look we prophesied, we cast out demons. On earth they said to people, WORKS DO NOT SAVE, grace alone. In Heaven, when they find out CHRIST IS NOT A LIAR, and PEOPLE ARE JUDGED ACCORDING TO WORKS (Rev. 20:12-13), they say we got works, yeah we got wonderful works.

          CHRIST SENDS THOSE PEOPLE WHO CALL HIM LORD TO HELL. Who are these people, the workers of lawlessness, they are those who says as RUHLING DOES – BIBLES ARE ALL THE WORD OF GOD, WE LOVE OUR PHARISEE APOSTLE, HE IS OF GOD

        • BEEF SUPREME

          “I’m quoting my master’s doctrine, so to mock that I call Ruhling a child of Hell is to mock Christ”

          No Pharisee. You suffer from delusions. When I address YOU, I am not addressing Messiah.

          Be that as it may, I should refrain from mockery.

          I apologize for mocking you.

          I do not apologize for my assertion that your poisonous perversions of Scripture are YOURS ALONE to bear. You have made yourself an enemy of Gospel by choosing to go about you work in wrath and condemnation.

          You behave like a BEAST Pharisee. There is no denying that fact.

          A BEAST is not a fit personage to bear the message you have thought to bear.

          Your have sown perversity and your efforts continuously yield perversity.

    • BEEF SUPREME

      COUNTRY BOY,

      Are you kidding me? ‘Case closed’? Who in their right mind would dare to presume they are PERMITTED to do something simply because they saw or heard or read of God doing the thing? Are you permitted to kill because you see God kill? Are you permitted to destroy because you have seen God destroy? Are you permitted to make an image because HE has done so?

      We have our orders in hand, sir. They read as follows:

      MAKE NO IMAGE; WORSHIP NO IMAGE

      Read it twice. Do the Scriptures say: ‘Well, you guys can MAKE images, just as long as you don’t WORSHIP those images’??? No. Tell the great medieval theologians to take a hike and read Scripture. You DO NOT need any man or institution, ‘blessed’ or otherwise, to explain to you the meaning of plainly-written words. And the Instructions in this case are as plain as the noses on our faces. That’s why the Ten Commandments were written in STONE.

      What’s that you say? Catholics don’t worship images? Sorry brother. I’ll tend to believe my own eyes over even the loudest protestations of another. Catholics LITERALLY fall to their knees and sometimes to their faces before myriad idols, and they do it every day. Crack open a concordance or a lexicon and study up on the meaning of the Hebrew and Greek words translated into English as ‘worship.’

      Case closed indeed.

      • Mayhem

        Thank you, Beef Supreme. Case closed indeed. In spite of The Word being very clear regarding this matter, man still thinks he can find a chink. Preposterous argument, Country Boy.

        In my employment i’m known as the bible basher and it’s best to make little eye contact, with me, let alone express much of a spiritual opinion, near me, lest i enjoin exposing false doctrines in the revealing light of Scripture.

        Anyway: last week a colleague was very keen to show me his “blessed virgin” key ring and got offended when i pointed out it’ll be a good thing that it is phallus shaped. Deluded catholic.

        • Universal Sign

          Case closed?
          I am LAUGHING SO HARD, beefy boy, that I JUST MIGHT DIE LAUGHING! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
          What a “spiritual comedian” you are, beefy, with a real bad “god” complex! :wink: :wink:

          And, mayhem, NOTHING makes me happier than christians squabbling over the “meaning” of words in the damned-by-man “book of babble”!
          YES, Let’s go “Dark Ages” again, and have you violent maniacs KILL ONE ANOTHER like “suicidal lemmings” over your accurse “book of babble”! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

          LUNATICS! :!: :!: :!: :!:

          Soon, you will not talk like this in public places AT ALL, under some very real “draconian actions” plan to eliminate your “kind of affliction” from the face of this earth, ONCE AND FOR ALL!

        • BEEF SUPREME

          “…eliminate your “kind of affliction” from the face of this earth, ONCE AND FOR ALL!”

          I don’t doubt it for a second, Demon Dog.

          It’s what comes after that’s got me all smiles.

          I’m ready to lose my head.

          You ready to lose yours?

          See you on the playing field, Darkstar.

        • Mayhem

          All that you say probably will come to pass, Universal Sign, Black Hole, ANIMUS….. ah, whoever.

          BUT KNOW THIS:

          Though you might force me to my knee’s i will never bow to you or your Master. If you permit me breath i will use it to profess YHWH. You will see the truth of this in my eyes as you snuff this life from me and it will make you spin like a top.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Animus is our friend from Brooklyn, Mayhem.

        • Mayhem

          Oops, my bad. Must be the rain, my mind has gone rusty.

        • SOM1

          Mayhem, “YHWH” profession means little to nothing, it’s at the name of Jesus every tongue and knee will DO something TO the glory of The Father.

        • Mayhem

          @SOM1….. Yes and thank you. I hope with all my heart i have the strength to confess our Father in the name of His Son.

      • Pharisees.org

        Beefsupreme is mentally ill, retarded, just plain evil?

        His master PUNISHES AND INSTRUCTS OTHERS TO PUNISH DISOBEDIENCE

        2 Cor 10:6 BE READY TO PUNISH ALL DISOBEDIENCE

        Child of Hell Beefjerky’s anti-Christ master SENTENCES PEOPLE TO DEATH! A man commits a sin the Pharisee deems worthy of death and sentences him to death:

        1 Cor. 5:5 I command that you hand that man over to Satan so that Satan can kill him

        The children of Hell who think they are of Christ argue with Christ in Heaven, insisting Christ must know them. He tells them I NEVER KNEW YOU. So do not be surprised that the MANY children of Hell Christians do not believe the words of Christ on earth:

        Matthew 7:22-23 MANY shall say to me in that day, Lord Lord we did many wonderful works in your name, we cast out demons, we prophesied. And I will say to them I never knew you. Depart from me, workers of lawlessness

        I NEVER KNEW YOU CHILDREN OF HELL PHARISEE CONVERTS, you so so stupid your apostle says: I AM A PHARISEE but you child of Hell follow him because his writings are in all four bibles and LIKE DOPE MORON RUHLING, we believe bibles are all the word of God.

        325 A.D. Council of Nicea, first bible came into existence. Until that time, Christ’s gospel was preached WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE of any bible.

        All four bibles are A COLLECTION OF WRITINGS. The writings stand or fall on their own. Pharisee Paul’s gospel FAILS, including Pharisee forgeries 1 and 2 Peter, Pharisee writings Mark, Luke, James and Jude

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Are you repeating yourself again?

          The biggest favor you could possibly do for yourself would be to stop posting anything, anywhere. Immediately.

          You know that Messiah had MANY people who followed Him. Messiah WAS NOT universally hated and despised wherever He went. Yet YOU are universally hated and despised wherever you post. THERE IS MEANING TO THAT.

          In all of your time here, you have had ONE commenter view your work semi-favorably; and now even she is having second thoughts. She is having second thoughts because she is THINKING. You are a menace to seekers and you ARE NOT a disciple of Messiah. You ARE NOT a servant of Messiah. What you are is wretchedly deceived.

          Every composition you post is one which you will be called to account for In That Day.

          I truly hope that for your sake you are sincere, and not just a willing agent of Evil.

          If you are deluded, and not an agent, then you act amiss because you do not know what you do. That’s as good as it can get for you until you turn off your fountain of acid and clean your house. NO HOLY SPIRIT would make His abode in your disgusting temple.

          One MAY NOT address ANYONE the way you address them — NOT EVEN ONE’S ENEMIES — and expect be counted among the followers of Messiah. You, Pharisee, cannot begin and end a sentence without gushing vomit and cursing. Vomit and cursing cannot help but escape from your soul every time you communicate because you are OVERLOWING with vomit and cursing.

          The only reason I bother to address you is because you contaminate every conversation I try to participate in, and you darken every door on this website. I would have NOTHING to do with you otherwise; I would leave you to wallow in your cursing. Blessing and charity are as ALIEN to you as friendship, decency and kindness are. That’s why you are alone, dejected and miserable.

    • Pix

      Which set of biblical 10 commandments are you talking about?

      The Jewish religion which Christianity claims to be founded on, has hundreds of commandments including over 100 commandments on absolutely disgusting barbaric ritual animal sacrifices.

      Which particular 10 are you talking about?

      Perhaps you mean the 8 essential criteria that Jesus gave for entry into heaven, that not a single person in existence has ever practiced… thus proving not a single person claiming to be a Christian believes a single word of it. If you don’t practice what you’re preaching, means you don’t believe it, but wan’t everyone else to believe it for you.

      Moron central.

      :lol:

      • Dr Richard Ruhling

        The 10 Commandments are found in Exodus 20 and were written by God on stone. The statutes and judgments were recorded by Moses and were guidelines to the ten which helped one to know duty in every circumstance of life. A quick overview of the judgments is found in Exodus 21-23. For example, if you stole a sheep and were caught, you would have to restore 4-fold–much better than going to jail and tax-payers supporting you, or the government fining you., or cutting off a boy’s hand for stealing bread in Muslim countries. (Exodus 22:1)

        • Pix

          I asked because there are more than one set of 10 commandments in the bible. All of them different.

          The biblical Exodus story is different from the original Jewish version. In the original they hold a competition between which of their deities is the most important. See commandment 1. ‘Have no other gods before him’, which does not exclude the worship of other gods. The various different beliefs they held, a mixture of traditional Egyptian beliefs and the newly invented mono deity religion invented and enforced on the entire population by the Egyptian pharaoh Amenhotep IV, c1’300 BCE.

          They built various temples at the site of Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia, one of which is a temple to Hathor the horned cow goddess of fertility. In the biblical version it is a golden calf.

          They held a competition between them, El won, the priests of El were such good sports, they ordered the followers of El to butcher the followers of the other deities, which resulted in them killing half their own number.

          There is plenty of evidence in the deserts of their journey from Egypt to Palestine, they left a trail of debris and dead bodies behind themselves.

        • Pix

          “A quick overview of the judgments is found in Exodus 21-23. For example, if you stole a sheep and were caught, you would have to restore 4-fold–much better than going to jail and tax-payers supporting you,…”

          So why did Christ-I-Anti change theft from a punishment to a reward, eg, if they ask for your coat, also give them the shirt off your back.

          Ho hum.

        • Pharisees.org

          CHILD OF HELL RUHLING he loves the 10 commandments and the schizo loves Paul too:

          Yo moron Ruhling, here is what your anti-Christ master calls Moses’ law (aka God’s commandments)

          1 Cor. 3:6 THE LETTER THAT KILLS

          1 Cor. 3:7 DEATH WRITTEN IN STONE

          Romans 8:2 THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH

          Ruhling, you freaking Hell boy, what exactly is your master anti-Christ’s new law that he says frees him from Moses’ law? What exactly is the ‘LAW OF THE SPIRIT IN THE LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST”, Romans 8:2?

        • SOM1

          God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.Hebrews1

          And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: Galatians3

          For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. Galatians4

      • Dr Richard Ruhling

        Pix, Thank you for your comments. Replying to another one you made when you said, “Why don’t you do an article about all the Christ-I-Anti hypocrites, who preach what Jesus preached, but don’t actually practice a single word of it”

        To some extent we are all hypocrits–critiical of others but not of ourselves. Christ was saying we should take the beam out of our own eye before we can see to take the speck out of our brother’s eye. The Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 is famous for focusing on the attitudes we should have–if so, our actions will also be right.

        • Pharisees.org

          speak for yourself HYPOCRITE RUHLING.

          A hypocrite is one who says, but does not do. TAKE YOUR MASTER ANTI-Christ for example:

          Galatians 5:16 WALK IN THE SPIRIT AND YOU WILL NOT FULFILL THE LUST OF THE FLESH

          ROMANS 7:19 I DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO GOOD. I DO EVIL and I HAVE THE MIND OF GOD (1 Cor. 2:16)

          WALK IN THE SPIRIT AND YOU WON’T FULFILL FLESHLY DESIRES

          Romans 7:25 … I SERVE SIN IN MY FLESH

          :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: HYPOCRITES, HYPOCRITES. Christ repeatedly said PHARISEES ARE HYPOCRITES.

          Ruhling is a dog, a lover of lies and such have their place in Hell (Rev. 22:15)

    • Amminadab

      Almost all churches fail to keep the 4th Commandment.

      Exodus 20:8-11, “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”

      • Dr Richard Ruhling

        Thank you for your comment which is true. I plan to post an article on the 4th Commandment soon after 3rd Commandment that you can see here, /religion/2014/01/the-most-misunderstood-of-the-ten-commandments-2462992.html

        • Pix

          Why don’t you do an article about all the Christ-I-Anti hypocrites, who preach what Jesus preached, but don’t actually practice a single word of it.

          :lol:

      • Pharisees.org

        God said the stranger (Gentile) staying with Jews is also to observe the Sabbath. Not all of Moses’ commands are for Gentiles and Gentiles should not commit blasphemy by claiming to be Jews:

        Deuteronomy 14:21 Do not eat any animal that has died of itself. You may give it to the stranger (Gentile) within your gates that he may eat thereof or you may sell it to the Gentile

        the dope craigevil would be so happy to have Sabbath observance among his church going fellows. But as to the church altars, he is fine with them because he is evil, a child of Hell Pharisee Paul convert:

        Hebrews 13:10 TEMPLE SERVANTS ARE FORBIDDEN TO BE AT CHURCH ALTARS

        :shock: :shock: :eek: :eek: yep, the church altars were set up by the men of Satan to mock God, mock his Temple servants. The Beast agrees with the Christians’ apostle:

        Rev. 13:6 THE BEAST BLASPHEMED THE TEMPLE OF GOD

        Blaspheme the Temple, mock the Temple servants – Paul and the Beast are on the same team

        How about this lovely scene depicted by Pharisee Paul – Christ is suffering with burning animal carcasses and is full of shame (Hebrews 13:11-13). :eek: :eek: :eek: :shock:

        Like the Pharisees’ Talmud where Christ is said to be suffering in Hell. Paul places Christ in a state of suffering and shame! Hell is the destination of men like Ruhling, they are evil Pharisee converts.

      • SOM1

        And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Luke6

        There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. Hebrews4

        I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.Galatians 2

        God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews1

        Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
        Galatians 3

        Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
        Colossians 2

    • The Marian Catechist

      Don’t be an idiot! You’ve got to be smarter than that!

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      http://www.catholic.com/tracts/do-catholics-worship-statues

      Hiding the Second Commandment?

      Another charge sometimes made by Protestants is that the Catholic Church “hides” the second commandment. This is because in Catholic catechisms, the first commandment is often listed as “You shall have no other gods before me” (Ex. 20:3), and the second is listed as “You shall not take the name of the Lord in vain.” (Ex. 20:7). From this, it is argued that Catholics have deleted the prohibition of idolatry to justify their use of religious statues. But this is false. Catholics simply group the commandments differently from most Protestants.

      In Exodus 20:2–17, which gives the Ten Commandments, there are actually fourteen imperative statements. To arrive at Ten Commandments, some statements have to be grouped together, and there is more than one way of doing this. Since, in the ancient world, polytheism and idolatry were always united—idolatry being the outward expression of polytheism—the historic Jewish numbering of the Ten Commandments has always grouped together the imperatives “You shall have no other gods before me” (Ex. 20:3) and “You shall not make for yourself a graven image” (Ex. 20:4). The historic Catholic numbering follows the Jewish numbering on this point, as does the historic Lutheran numbering. Martin Luther recognized that the imperatives against polytheism and idolatry are two parts of a single command.

      • Truthseeker

        servus mariae

        There is a full article dedicated to your dogma, it is 1/20/14 at 7:41.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          And comments are open to any and all.

    • Anonymous

      Praise the Lard and pass the jar.

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