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D.U.M.B. & Nephilim are Real – Leaker Reveals!

Tuesday, February 11, 2014 23:10
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The masses have been trained to call the Nephilim of Genesis chapter six by another new name, “aliens.” These so called “aliens” have been involved with mankind since day one. They are not from another planet, rather they are interdimensional beings and per the Bible, are the satanic offspring of Fallen Watcher Angels and humans.

“The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them.” Genesis 6:4

“And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.” Numbers 13:33

Considering the Nephilim are still alive and active today, this leads me to believe that many inhabit underground cities. Over time various whistleblowers have surfaced exposing not only these hidden underground cities, known as DUMBS, but also the “alien life-forms” that exist within—better known as Nephilim.

But before we go any further, lets first dive into the evidence of D.U.M.B.’s (Deep Underground Military Bases)

Eye witness testimonies reveal that DUMBS range from 10 – 30 miles across and some are as deep as four miles down. There is approximately 140 DUMBS and they have allegedly been under construction since the 1940s. Most of the tunneling activity is beneath military installations and all information is highly restricted; making it near impossible to verify, but some evidence has managed to surface over the years.

Whistleblowers like James Casbolt, Tim Weiner, Fletcher Prouty, and Philip Schneider, have talked publicly about substantial underground installations located under US Air force bases, Navy Bases, Army Bases, FEMA Military Training Camps, DHS control centers, Area 51, the Northrop facility in Antelope Valley, and the Lockheed installation near Edwards, California. Ex-employees have additionally claimed that these deep “underground cities” have tunnels that are connected by high-speed magnetic-levitation trains with speeds of up to 1500 MPH. (I question where they got that technology)

The video below, by SagaciousNewsNetwork, contains countless photos of DUMBS across the US. It also contains footage of the train system that connects them. I believe you’ll find it fascinating….  

Taking into account all the pictures and footage found in the video above, how could one doubt the existence of underground bases? Norway, Turkey, Russia, Israel, China, and Iran all have openly admitted to underground cities, why do we think it will be any different here in America? The only difference is our government keeps it under wraps, why? Now that is the question.

Philip Schneider, one of the most famous whistleblowers of DUMBS, gave a public lecture in 1995 on his discoveries. He was an ex-government structural engineer who was privy to building these underground military bases. He not only exposed the DUMBS themselves but he further claimed they were inhabited by UFO, better known as Nephilim. Because of his claims he was targeted by the elite and on January 17th, 1996 he was found murdered in his apartment with a piano wire wrapped around his neck. Someone didn’t want his testimony to go any further then it already had.

Below is a short clip of his interview; if you want it in its entirety click here.

(Keep in mind “alien” are Nephilim and Please bear with the audio, it’s a recording from 1995)

Not only did Philip Schneider reveal information about the UFO/Nephilim in these underground DUMBS but a former Canadian military officer, who went by the name “Timothy” because he didn’t want to be discovered, also shared his experience. Timothy served as a junior officer in the Canadian Armed Forces in the aerospace engineering branch, and he worked at one of the top-secret deep underground military base at Cold Lake Canada.

He states:

“I am not about to use my name and risk incarceration since I would be in violation of our country’s State Secrets Act. More than 3,000 people have been killed for trying to talk about what goes on in these underground bases. It’s basically a death sentence…”

He further explained that the network of DUMBS housed ‘non-human life forms’ who openly shared their ‘alien technology’ with the US government (read more about his testimony here).

James Casbolt, a former MI6 agent who worked in ‘Black Ops’ in London between 1995-1999,  was another leaker who saw “living aliens” in these underground cities. He further explained that the size of these cities was about the size of a medium sized city (click here to hear his full story).

If we take into consideration the whistleblowers testimonies, the photo evidence of DUMBS, and the Biblical information on the Nephilim; then one can only assume that it is possible that the Nephilim are in these undergrounds DUMBS. Furthermore, the Bible is clear that the Nephilim would be alive and active today….

 “The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them.” Genesis 6:4

Notice the words, “and also afterwards.”  That means even after the flood of Noah, Nephilim invaded the earth. In these latter days, the Bible says it will be a time of mass hybridization and corruption of human DNA like never before. Which is why we see an uptick in UFO/Nephilim abduction and sightings. God told us that it would be like the days of Noah, ”But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” Matthew 24:37.  During Noah’s time there was an invasion of Nephilim and so it will be in our generation.

In Conclusion

What if these whistleblowers are telling the truth? What if a hidden, secret network of underground cities and tunnels really does exist? What if Nephilim are real?

If so then why are the elite hiding them and why did they murder the whistleblower?

Are they expecting a global disaster? An apocalypse? The rise of the Nephilim race or an  “alien” Antichrist? A nuclear war? Some other catastrophic “depopulating” event? Or all of the above?

Time will tell!

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  • SkyWolf

    * * * *

    Lisa you are spilling the beans. There are too many small brains that will shout and puke because of this.

    Watch the babies cry over this one.

    • GuitarLots

      Actually there are over 500 dumbs .. It’s called congress

  • Wulfrano Ruiz Sainz

    Dear Lisa. Your belief is not good enough. I need solid proof. For example, you shaking hands with one of “them”.

    • Lisa Haven

      I hope that never happens LOL, these things are Satanic! :)

      • I-OMEGA

        There can be little doubt that Government and Corporations are trying very hard, and spending a lot of money, to get as much human DNA Data banked for some reason.

        You all misinterpret the big Government effort to gather as much DNA identification of individuals as possible.

        Why would, say, the state of Minnesota, without the knowledge or consent of the parents, data base ALL DNA of human newborns in that state?

        Answer: “The Invaders” (Not from this planet) are looking for individuals with specific “powers and abilities” that enable that human to DEFEAT the invaders. They are looking far and wide, and as quickly as possible. They destroy these individuals immediately when they are identified as a future threat to the invaders.

        All poisoning programs being carried out (i.e. chem. Trails, GMO foods, poisoning of water, and more) plus the changing of certain key elements of earth (i.e. engineered atmospheric changes like more CO2, raising back ground radiation with “disasters” like Fukushima and more) all point to one action plan.

        More acreage on the planet is needed for the arrival of the Invaders in mass, as well as this planet itself must be “altered to better suite their life form while living upon the surface of it.

        The massive “culling” of the Human Race on the surface of the planet over time, so it is “not noticed” by the majority living on it, is to kill off tens of millions, creating the acreage needed, as well as the Terraforming of this whole planet to change certain basic elements of it to make it better suited for another life form to live on the surface of this planet in mass in the near future.

        Beware:
        You would all be better off spending more time reading “Science Fiction” than the very confusing “designed” “jibber-jabber” of the past. The three Monolithic religions and their script can NEVER provide you with anything of value in defeating these invading “creatures”, because elements of those “religions” have been in the past, and are now involved with the Invaders themselves (in assisting them to destroy you, defeat your cultures, and through government, introducing the technology needed to change the planet itself to better suite the Invaders life form while living upon it).

  • Summer

    ”But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”

    These are the words Messiah used, no doubt, but he goes on to describe what they mean in the following verses.

    Matthew 24:38-39

    “For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”

    These verses are meant to be a warning for believers to be ready for the time of his return, not to watch out for Nephilim reappearing on the planet.

    No doubt these elaborate bases exist, and whether or not they contain these Nephilim or fallen ones is yet to be seen, but regardless, we have nothing to fear because we as believers answer to a higher authority. We know from scripture that those left on Earth following the tribulation (i.e. the God-hating elite) will seek to hide from the wrath, but they won’t escape it, no matter how big their bunkers are.

    • ViewPoint

      Thank you for this post. I have been saying the same about, “But as the days of Noah were…” and thank you also for, “we have nothing to fear because we as believers answer to a higher authority.”

      It’s more important than ever to remain within Yahweh’s divine hedge of protection. We remain surrounded by His hedge until we give a legal reason to the Accuser. It is written that the Accuser stands before the throne of God accusing the brethren day and night, but if a valid reason is not given, then we can not be subject to any injury of any kind. This is why and how we have power over all malevolent supernatural beings and their human servants. The Accuser desires your life, but if he cannot legally make the claim, he will surely settle for a stubbed toe, or a traffic ticket.

      Imagine how an army of Yahweh’s untouchable holy people could so confidently and effectively counter the overwhelming numbers of antichrists that are rising up and on the march.

  • abnegative

    bible history referenced reveals the nephilim to be giants , OFFSPRING of the mating of some of the watcher class of “angels” and the daughters of earthling man . These were the giants of old on earth . The flood according to the bible , was to destroy this race as they had filled the earth with violence . Evidence suggests all were not killed in the flood though many were , there have been skeletal remains of the suvivors and perhaps some of those killed in the flood unearthed in varoious sites around the earth . Some much larger than Goliath , though he was offspring of nephilim. Each generation being bred with human genetics became further diluted , the extreme stature and other features diluted as well.
    Some of those in the dumbs may well be the race of beings who came from the heavens who mated with early earth women , however these are not by any means the only other worldly beings visiting this planet . there have been and continue to be wars fought among various “races” of beings over the goings on on earth. We humans are in the crossfire and are a large part of the divisive theme of these wars.

  • am123

    From the article:

    “God told us that it would be like the days of Noah, ”But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” Matthew 24:37. During Noah’s time there was an invasion of Nephilim and so it will be in our generation.”
    ————————————————-

    Nephilim were giants, which did inhabit the earth at one time. Back in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s, newspaper accounts (many from the NY Times no less) tell of skeletons of giants discovered in the middle mounds of America:

    http://www.sydhav.no/giants/newspapers.htm

    The giant bones fit in with what the Bible tells us, for there were Nephilim/giants upon the earth during the time of Noah and also afterwards (see chapter 6 of GEN). But bones of giants does not fit in with the silly and foolish theory of evolution. So lo and behold, the Smithsonian scrambled to cover up as much of the evidence as they could, for those who worship at the altar of evolution won’t let the facts in the ground get in the way of their religion o no :mad: :!:

    However, while giants did indeed walk upon this earth and existed during the time of Noah and also afterwards, do Nephilim/giants play parts in the end times scenario :?:

    No, they do not. There are no physical giants amongst the participants in the end times scenario, be it the manchild of REV 12, or the 2 who are one in REV 11, or the Destroyer (Abaddon) of REV 9:11, or the beast that arises out of the sea in REV 13:1, or the beast that arises out of the earth in REV 13:11, or anyone else in the end times script, the Book of Revelation.

    One of the most misquoted and abused phrase nowadays from chapter 24 of Matthew is the “days of Noah” quote which, when abused and misused, renders itself to mean something spooky and kooky, something above and beyond what Jesus intended—namely, the one thing attributed to the “days of Noah” by Jesus to be used to apply to the Second Coming was the suddenness, rapidity, and overwhelmingness of the flood event. Nothing more and nothing less can and should be attributed to the “days of Noah” in regards to the Second Coming. To see the days of Noah quote in context and judge for yourself if what I say is correct, read the following from chapter 24 of Matthew:

    32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
    33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
    34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
    36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
    39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    —Matthew 24:32-39

    Far be it from any child of God to extrapolate from the “days of Noah” to mean things above and beyond the suddenness of the flood, things such as Nephilim/giants, and portray them as participants in the end times ensemble, for they are nothing of the sort.

    • Lisa Haven

      I tend to disagree in that there will be Nephilim in the latter days. Satan himself will rule during tribulation and that means his kingdom with him. But Daniel 2:42-43 spell it out perfectly, “And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay.”
      Notice the words, “THEY will mingle with the SEED OF MEN.” If the Seed of Men is the human race who is the “they”. I believe thats the Nephlim, but just something to think about, I’m not trying to convert your view. :)

      • BEEF SUPREME

        I think Lisa is dead-on.

        This is displayed also in the Law. There is commandment in the Law to NEVER let a garment of diverse kinds (linen and woolen) come upon us.

        This seems a strange and almost trifling commandment, until we do what King David suggested, which is to MEDITATE on the precepts of the Law.

        The ‘garment’ is the body. The commandment is about not letting the garment we wear, our body, become composed of mingled seed. Do not let the iron mix with the clay — IN us. Do not allow our DNA (our seed) to become corrupted by any ‘upgrade’ (so-called) in an effort to achieve an advanced state of being, immortality, godhood, or whatever nifty sales-pitch is offered to us at the time.

        And since the Nephilim are mingled seed by definition, we can absolutely have Nephilim in the end times. More than that, we ourselves can BECOME Nephilim, just as Nimrod was said to BECOME one of them when he BEGAN TO BE a gibbor (a mighty one) in the land.

        We don’t need thirty-foot tall ogres running around eating people like chicken drumsticks in order to have actual Nephilim among us.

        (Though I won’t be foolish enough to dismiss any and all possibility of giants walking among us before the Son of Man returns.)

      • am123

        Indeed Satan and the beast will be given their 42 months of time, but Revelation speaks not of any giants during this time.

        Regarding mingling with the “seed of men”, whatever it is, that does not appear to be the same thing that happened in Genesis chapter 6, where the sons of God mingled with women (not with men) to produce the Nephilim.

      • am123

        “(Though I won’t be foolish enough to dismiss any and all possibility of giants walking among us before the Son of Man returns.)”

        When asked the signs that would precede the Second Coming, don’t you think Messiah in chapter 24 of Matthew would have mentioned a sign as BIG as GIANTS walking upon the earth :eek: :?:

      • am123

        I think this whole quoting of Daniel 2:42-43 and trying to apply it to genetic manipulation and mingling of seed is a distraction from you know who :twisted: .

        That is not to say the people who espouse it are evil, no, but they have fallen for the distraction, taking their eye off the ball so to speak. This whole evil manipulation of genes thing espoused by the likes of Steve Qualyle, Tom Horn, etc. focuses believer’s eyes on works of Satan and they are not focused upon and hence are missing the great and glorious awesome plan for the Church that is revealed in the Word. When I read this section from the 2nd chapter of Daniel, my eyes light up when I hit verse 44 below:

        40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

        41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

        42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

        43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

        44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

        —Daniel 2:40-44

        Evil men today are using genetic manipulation along with their magic—so what? Just wait until they see what God has planned and what He has purposed for the end times. This Nephilim and the mingling of seed stuff will be an afterthought and will fall by the wayside when the Church executes the plans and purposes of God.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “…but Revelation speaks not of any giants during this time.” [final 42 months]

        Absolutely true. But all patterns in Scripture repeat. “YHWH speaks once, yeah twice, yet men perceive it not.” So why would the Nephilim be any different? They won’t be. Giants or no, we are going to see abominable mingled seed in the end times. This is a HUGE portion of the end times MO of Satan and his army – they ARE GOING TO mingle the seed of men with the seed of the Sons of God. This is written all throughout Scripture and it is written all throughout the esoteric and occult science books and records.

        “When asked the signs that would precede the Second Coming, don’t you think Messiah in chapter 24 of Matthew would have mentioned a sign as BIG as GIANTS walking upon the earth?”

        My argument is that we don’t NEED giants in order to fulfill this pattern or the attendant prophecies, but I am NOT in the habit of ruling out possibilities, ANY possibilities, regarding the end of days. Would you really be shocked to see a fifteen or twenty foot monster walking past your bunker in the middle or latter portion of the Great Tribulation? I wouldn’t be. Considering the myriad freaks, spooks, ghouls and goblins described for us in the Book of Revelation and elsewhere (Joel for instance), I think it would be insanely reckless to rule out ANY form of monstrosity or abomination rearing its ugly head during those dark days.

        “I think this whole quoting of Daniel 2:42-43 and trying to apply it to genetic manipulation and mingling of seed is a distraction from you know who”

        I could scarcely agree with you less.

        “This whole evil manipulation of genes thing espoused by the likes of Steve Qualyle, Tom Horn, etc”

        Be that as it may, the material did not originate with them. I think they’re all dirty, but I have examined the same source material most of them have looked into.

        YHWH does not dwell in temples made with hands. That is the key ingredient, I believe, to rightly understanding this subject. If our genetics are altered, which there is NO DOUBT the Enemy is working feverishly to accomplish (triple strand DNA ‘mark’eting is everywhere in advertising, in movies, in corporate logos…), then our being may become LOCKED in the flesh. The elites want immortality – they want to seal their fates by imprisoning themselves in their present bodies. These bodies of flesh were designed SPECIFICALLY to die, just like the seed of a wheat plant, or cornstalk, or fig tree. The seed dies so that the NEW CREATURE can be formed. Satan intends to sabotage that plan by appealing to men’s nature. We are all greedy for immortality. But THEY plan to STEAL that great gift, and to do so contrary to the plans of the Most High. We have been promised even better than what the elites are hoping to steal, but we have to attain to the promise via the WAY we have been Instructed (through the DOOR), and not by climbing up some other way like thieves.

        “This Nephilim and the mingling of seed stuff will be an afterthought and will fall by the wayside when the Church executes the plans and purposes of God.”

        You have completely and entirely put the cart before the horse, brother. By the time the elites and the evil seed of this world have seen with their eyes the Plans and Purposes of God, they will already have implemented their own horrendous plans and will be reaping what they have sown. You will see the Nephilim/DNA mixing agenda rolled out and implemented FIRST, and then you will see the coming of the Kingdom of Heaven…

        But by then, Woe to them who have tampered with their DNA… and to them who have mingled their SEED with the Sons of God. Woe to them who have taken the Mark of the Beast.

      • am123

        “You have completely and entirely put the cart before the horse, brother.”

        How so :eek: :?:

        I said this genetic mixing stuff will fall by the wayside when the KOG comes.

        “You will see the Nephilim/DNA mixing agenda rolled out and implemented FIRST” = horse

        “then you will see the coming of the Kingdom of Heaven” = cart

      • BEEF SUPREME

        You wrote:

        “I think this whole quoting of Daniel 2:42-43 and trying to apply it to genetic manipulation and mingling of seed is a distraction from you know who”…

        And again:

        “This whole evil manipulation of genes thing espoused by the likes of Steve Qualyle, Tom Horn, etc. focuses believer’s eyes on works of Satan and they are not focused upon and hence are missing the great and glorious awesome plan for the Church that is revealed in the Word.”

        That sounds to me like your argument is an ‘either or’ argument.

        It sounds to me as if you are denying the EXISTENCE of the DNA manipulation agenda. If you are not denying the EXISTENCE of the agenda, but are only denying the eventual EFFECTS of the agenda, then you might not be putting the cart before the horse.

        But by the time the Kingdom Comes, the DNA manipulation agenda will have run its course. The lessons of the deception will have become apparent. All that will remain at that time will be the regrets of those who have failed to heed the warnings of Scripture.

        So when you wrote:

        “This Nephilim and the mingling of seed stuff will be an afterthought and will fall by the wayside when the Church executes the plans and purposes of God.”

        I suggest that the mingling of seed program will be finished. The damage will be done. The program won’t be discredited because folks get to see the Glory of the coming Kingdom; the program will have been discredited by then because the folks who participated in it will be living in hellish agony and will have realized the terrible nature of their errors.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        I wrote:

        “It sounds to me as if you are denying the EXISTENCE of the DNA manipulation agenda.”

        But I somehow missed it when you wrote:

        “Evil men today are using genetic manipulation along with their magic—so what?”

        So you might not deny the EXISTENCE of the program, but I think you wholly underestimate the MAGNITUDE of its eventual effects.

      • am123

        No, I do not deny the existence of the program. My point is believers are distracted by the program, digging into its intricate details as if that is where the epiphany comes from when the real epiphany will come from digging into the Word, and that epiphany has nothing to do with the aforementioned evil program.

        BTW BEEF, on an unrelated topic, DJL is up to his tricks again.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        I understand now the distinction. And I would agree with you that the focus needs to be on the Word. I would give the same advice.

        However, there are guys who live in this study — who swim in it — and do little else: certain pastors even like Mike Hoggard from Beth El Church in Missouri, for example. Pastor Mike is a King James only advocate, which drives me nuts, but the man spends his waking hours devoted to his family, to his church, and to the study.

        My point, I suppose, is that a study of the enemy’s agenda can be of great benefit. But I would agree with you that it should NEVER replace a study of the Word.

        On that other note –

        I have my eye on what he’s doing here. To my way of thinking, he has one month left. It just so happens that it’s the shortest month of the year. After that, should he decide to continue along his present course, I intend to turn his efforts here against him entirely. There won’t be any reason for him to stay here, because we have more than enough to expose him thoroughly and completely for the wolf that he is.

        I know what he wants. Staying here will get him none of it. The job won’t even be hard, although I have had numerous individuals contact me off-site to warn me about both his habits and his past behavior. Some of the stories would be difficult to believe if not accompanied by plentiful corroborating evidence. Fortunately for us, the evidence abounds.

      • Merkin

        Lisa Haven and Gentlemen.

        What if the genetic change planned is something less than fortunate to the recipients and being offered and administered over a longer period of time?

        Everyone I know is middle or lower class and unless we are handling our food carefully we are all eating genetically modified and lifeless (altered) corn food. We all line up for various “health shots” and eat what we can put on the table. Take the anti-depressants and watch tv before bed. “forget radiation and environmental poisoning”

        What is this doing to us? Does anyone really know? Think generation or two of so many “things we invite in to corrupt the form”

        The average working man probably qualifies as a GOLEM of sorts without further genetic “evolution” or “devolution”. ( devoid of spirit )

        For Today’s Nephelim consider: Star Trek and the story of Khan. Part of a race of genetic Supermen that tries to take over earth. Handsome. Gifted. Tall. Soulless ageless and driven. Check and see how that story went.

      • abnegative

        The bible tells us in specific terms the parallels between the days of Noah and the last days , in these passages it mentions many conditions we see today , earthquakes, famine ect…it does not make mention of the return of the nephilim . One must remember , who they were , offspring of fallen angels and daughters of earthling men . Are we saying more fallen angels are breeding with women again or that the same nephilim that existed thousands of years ago are still here and live thousands of years. I don’t see in the bible where it says they live thousands of years or evidence of this. They were hybrids of women and fallen angels or the watcher class of annunaki if you want to approach it from a sumerian perspective. Demigods perhaps , but with certain mortality

      • BEEF SUPREME

        Merkin asked:

        “What is this doing to us? Does anyone really know?”

        [And by the way -- your new avatar makes sense of the name now. Mr. President. When I was looking for a good screen name and avatar, I kept thinking about Colonel Bat Guano, but I thought nobody would get it. Almost nobody gets Beef Supreme.]

        It has been my sense for the past few years that the crap they are feeding us, spraying on us and injecting into us, is something of a ‘fertilizer’ to ‘condition the soil’ for future seed-planting.

        There can be little doubt they’re trying very hard, and spending a lot of money, to get our DNA ready for something.

      • Merkin

        Will this be something be “offered” or simply “activated” on our behalf?

        I see the obvious genetic changes and fiddling coming for those who can afford upgrades for themselves and their charges but what are they planning for the rest of us? Surely the regular reasons ( long life, disease resistance, intelligence, prowess ) aren’t things the TPTB want to us to have at all.

        All this money being spent on fertilizing and grooming the clay…. That is only done if you know the planting season in near.

        We aren’t in on it or paying for the services rendered so we MUST be the product.

        [ Tips hat on avatar and name connection(s). Crossing the Rubicon into adulthood the man behind the mask figures President is a good first job to assume. ]

    • Krispy Critter

      @ am123

      I have confronted yourself on a previous issue.

      The best you could do was “evade” your initial premise (i.e. foundation) and divert to a sidetrack angle to escape your lies.

      Pay not attention this deceiver.

      Another well placed shill.

      YOU claimed that the “angel of the bottomless pit” is now a “good” guy! !” as you referred to Revelation 9:11.

      If anyone is interested in “am123” and his credibility, check the link below.

      /christian-news/2014/02/the-beast-rising-from-the-sea-2491392.html

      __/ __/ __/ __/ __/ __/ __/ GET IT STRAIGHT PEOPLE __/ __/ __/ __/

      @ am123 CLAIMED THAT THE “ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT IS A “GOOD GUY.”

      LIAR AND DECEIVER.

      • Omega Files

        Krispy, get over it. Read his article and try to prove him wrong if you got a problem with it.

  • Rip

    If they want to live underground, it is their right. It is none of our business. Those in power don’t want the public to know this information. The “leaker” went too far and gave details. What does Top Secret mean? TOP SECRET YOU FOOLS!!!

  • eatmorevegetables

    1 Peter 3:19-20 (RSV) “…in which he went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water.”

    The reference to “the spirits in prison” seems congruent with Jewish texts (1 Enoch 6-21; Jubilees 5, 1-11) that describe imprisonment in the underworld, or as suggested in (2 Enoch 7, 1-3) locked up in the lower heavens.

    So my question is, how do you reconcile those texts with your interpretation that “and also afterward” means they continue(d) to have some form of freedom on earth?

    • Neo

      Two different groups. One human, the other nephilim. There, not so hard is it?

      • eatmorevegetables

        I don’t think you even understood my question. She says after the flood the “nephilim” invaded the earth, but the same bible says they were in prison. I would like her to explain how they can invade the earth and be in prison at the same time…

      • Omega Files

        That’s not an easy question to answer. I wrote about it a little bit these articles:

        http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/02/nephilim-the-devils-wear-prada-2458730.html
        http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/02/santas-clause-requiem-for-a-pole-shift-2458732.html

        We don’t know exactly how the Nephilim came into being after the flood but we can assume that it was somehow related to the Biblical character, Nimrod, when he ‘began’ to be a mighty one in the earth. In other words, he wasn’t born that way.

        Genesis 10:8: “And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.”

        Nimrod (Osiris) is the originator of the first major rebellion against God on Earth, just as Lucifer initiated the rebellion in heaven. After his death, Nimrod was deified as the god Baal [ball], just as Lucifer is referred to as the god of this world. This sheds light on why both YHWH ELOHIM and Moses were so mad about the worshipping of Baal in Exodus 32. Baal worship extended all the way back to Babylon and was an abomination to God. Semiramis (Isis) becomes the false prophet by getting people to worship Tammuz (Horus), just as the false prophet will get people to worship Satan through the antichrist. Some believe that Satan will bear a son that will become the antichrist (Genesis 3:15). Others believe that Satan will simply empower the antichrist. Yet another group believes that Satan will possess the man that is to become the antichrist. Either by design or coincidence, the Nimrod story contains all three views. Semiramis conceives Tammuz with Nimrod (Baal/Osiris/Gilgamesh/Marduk) who then inhabits and empowers his own son.

    • Lisa Haven

      I have an answer for you. There are Fallen Angels, Humans, and Nephilim. Fallen Angels had sex with humans and produced the offspring of Nephilim. In the flood Nephilim were killed—not Fallen Angels, they do not die—Nephilim do. And yes the Fallen Angels were the ones locked up in prison because they could not die. That being said, where did the next set of Nephilim come from if the Fallen Angels were in prison.

      The answer is one of two options:

      Option one is there was a “Second” Rebellion, the fact that the Bible says, “The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, AND ALSO AFTERWORDS.” Leads us to believe there had to have been a second fall of angels.

      A second suggestion is that they have been released. According to the Book of Enoch after so many generations they would be released putting us at the 1900′s. I wrote about it in a post here: http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2013/12/the-release-of-the-alien-greys-2456604.html

      Hope this answers your question. And the reason I put two options is because I want to share all the information with you, not just my view. Let me know if you have any others.
      Thanks,
      Lisa

      • Omega Files

        “Leads us to believe there had to have been a second fall of angels.”

        This quote is quite the assumption and seems to be a product of your carnal rationalization, rather than a product of genuine Biblical exegesis. There is nothing in Scripture to indicate that this happened.

        “According to the Book of Enoch after so many generations they would be released putting us at the 1900′s”

        This is another assumption. We can definitely try to infuse Enoch into Scripture but we can only do so when Enoch is actually validated by Scripture. It does not have the same weight as the written word, nor does it actually explain why there was Nephilim in and around the Promised Land.

        Our most conclusive evidence for the origins of the appearance of Nephilim after the flood are hidden within the Nimrod account.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        Here is yet another possibility, in addition to the two Lisa listed above:

        The Occultists teach their adepts that the Great Secret of the Ages is written on the Twin Pillars of Hercules. In the 28th degree of Scottish Rite Masonry, it is revealed to the initiate that the Pillars of Hercules are an ancient representation of Jachin and Boaz — the twin pillars of the Temple of Solomon.

        Knowing the flood was imminent, the ‘Secret’ was ‘written’ on the ‘pillars’ where it would ‘survive the deluge.’

        Jachin and Boaz were 23 cubits tall. 23 is the number of chromosome pairs in DNA. If Jachin and Boaz are a representation of human DNA, as I believe they are, then the ‘Great Secret of the Ages’ was written on the DNA of one of the eight people who survived the Great Flood.

        I believe one of the wives of Noah’s sons was tainted by blood from the Tribe of the Serpent Seed. The ‘Tribe of the Serpent Seed’ is mentioned ONCE in Morals and Dogma, and it is not expounded upon. I believe the Nephilim bloodline survived the Great Flood by securing itself a place on the Ark of Noah. Thereafter, the bloodline proliferated. There is plenty of evidence, both direct and anecdotal, to suggest that this bloodline is protected and cultivated by the Global Elite to this day.

        This understanding would absolutely satisfy the verse from Scripture:

        “The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, AND ALSO AFTERWORDS.”

      • Omega Files

        “Knowing the flood was imminent, the ‘Secret’ was ‘written’ on the ‘pillars’ where it would ‘survive the deluge’.”

        I’m just not so sure that I can believe this entirely. I have no doubt in regards to the authenticity of these pillars – or at least the one that survived –, but I’m also positive that they would have taken other precautionary measures to preserve their secrets. To me, the more believable scenario would have been the discovery of this knowledge after the flood. Suggesting that one of the wife’s of Noah’s sons had Nephilim blood seems to be an over-analysis of the Scripture. If this were the case, then YHWH Elohim performed His most remarkable act of kindness on this hybrid by allowing her survive the Deluge. If the whole purpose for the Flood was to get rid of the Nephilim, why would He have allowed one to stay?

        Consider Egyptian mythology when Isis tricked Ra in to revealing his name. As we all know, the story of Osiris, Isis, and Horus parallels the story of Nimrod, Semiramis, and Tammuz. The common theme in many of the stories that parallel this account is that secret knowledge was stolen or discovered, not inherited. I believe that this is nothing more than the classic example of information falling into the wrong hands. So if Nimrod ‘began’ to be a mighty one, what would make this so special if there were already Nephilim running around everywhere. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate that the Nephilim originated anywhere outside of this genealogy after the flood. We can speculate on the genetic composition of those on the Arc but that would seem to contradict YHWH Elohim’s handling of these creatures throughout the entire written Word.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “Suggesting that one of the wife’s of Noah’s sons had Nephilim blood seems to be an over-analysis of the Scripture.”

        I didn’t see it suggested in Scripture. I see it taught by the Occult Sciences. I looked for confirmation in Scripture and didn’t really find much, but I have so far discovered nothing in the Book to rule it out as a possibility.

        “If this were the case, then YHWH Elohim performed His most remarkable act of kindness on this hybrid by allowing her survive the Deluge.”

        Perhaps. And in addition to kindness, it may have been precisely what He wanted in order to suit His purposes.

        “If the whole purpose for the Flood was to get rid of the Nephilim, why would He have allowed one to stay?”

        Says who that the “whole purpose for the Flood” was to get rid of the Nephilim? Why can’t The Flood be viewed as one spectacular move in a chess game, or better yet, a game of poker – where the vast majority of the pot changed hands from Satan to YHWH, but not the entire pot. The ‘game’ continues.

        “…secret knowledge was stolen or discovered, not inherited.”

        We may or may not be talking about the same thing here. Is the ‘divine fire’ stolen from the gods the same ‘spark’ which was implanted in Adam-kind by the Serpent? Or is the knowledge different from the illuminating fire born (carried) and brought to men by Lucifer. Could be the same thing; but it might not be.

        “So if Nimrod ‘began’ to be a mighty one, what would make this so special if there were already Nephilim running around everywhere.”

        I would suggest that from The Flood until Nimrod, the Nephelim ‘gene’ lied dormant. I would suggest that Nimrod was born as a ‘garden-variety’ (gives new meaning to that term, this usage does) who became something ‘other’ at some point during his life. I would suggest that something was DONE to Nimrod in order to ‘activate’ the dormant gene and make him into a ‘new’ creature. The theories related to this possibility are absolutely mesmerizing. (Tower of Babel, Stargates, CERN, time-travel… trippy stuff. The Sun God [Nimrod] is also Chronos; the god of TIME…)

        “There is nothing in the Bible to indicate that the Nephilim originated anywhere outside of this genealogy after the flood.”

        Nor am I suggesting any. Ham’s wife would be the incubator of the Serpent’s Seed in this case. That’s Nimrod’s bloodline.

        “We can speculate on the genetic composition of those on the Arc but that would seem to contradict YHWH Elohim’s handling of these creatures throughout the entire written Word.”

        I don’t see a contradiction. If you see one, please call it out and let’s have a look at it.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “…illuminating fire born (carried)…”

        I knew that didn’t look right.

        Should have been BORNE.

        Then I wouldn’t have needed the parentheses.

      • Omega Files

        BEEF:

        “Perhaps. And in addition to kindness, it may have been precisely what He wanted in order to suit His purposes… Says who that the “whole purpose for the Flood” was to get rid of the Nephilim? Why can’t The Flood be viewed as one spectacular move in a chess game, or better yet, a game of poker – where the vast majority of the pot changed hands from Satan to YHWH, but not the entire pot. The ‘game’ continues. ”

        Good point. I see what you’re getting at with this.

        “something was DONE to Nimrod in order to ‘activate’ the dormant gene and make him into a ‘new’ creature.”

        This is kind of what I was getting at. There must have been an initial activation that occurred, but for the activation to occur, the Nephilim ‘gene’ must have indeed been dormant. But what’s to say that Noah’s wife and the rest of their children didn’t have this dormant gene as well? If Ham’s wife had this gene then it was transferred to Cush through her X chromosome which was then passed down to Nimrod. So it would seem that this gene would have remained dormant – and possibly remains dormant in all of us today – unless some type of occult activation takes place. It’s a fascinating scenario when you look in to the possibilities of how exactly this happened.

        “I don’t see a contradiction. If you see one, please call it out and let’s have a look at it.”

        Let’s consider the scenario in that went down in the Promised Land:

        1 Samuel 15:3: “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”

        Dueteronomy 2:34: “And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain”

        Numbers 31:17: “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.”

        By the end of this forty year period of wandering, all of the Israelites had died except for Joshua and Caleb who remained to lead this new generation to victory over the Amorites. The fact that God commanded the Israelites to destroy man, woman, and child becomes logical if we understand that – as the text clearly says – all people in the land were not merely sons of Adam, but were a mix between the sons of God and human women just like in the days of Noah Just as God destroyed the Earth with a flood to wipe the Nephilim from the face of the Earth during Noah’s time, so he used the flood of invading Jews flowing into the Promised Land to wipe out the giants they encountered. Realizing that some of the cities in the Promised Land were filled with Nephilim explains why God ordered some of the cities totally destroyed with the citizens in them to be put under the edge of the sword. God didn’t want any of these monsters to once again pollute the human gene pool. God dealt out the same total destruction to these beings as he had with Noah’s Flood. When YHWH deals with the Nephilim, he has a habit of utterly destroying them, be it with the Deluge or the flood of invading Israelites. I don’t really see any examples of the YHWH showing them mercy.

      • Omega Files

        YHWH…not ‘the’ YHWH

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “But what’s to say that Noah’s wife and the rest of their children didn’t have this dormant gene as well?”

        I haven’t been able to find anything to rule it out. But the esoteric sources don’t attribute the breach to any of the other women – just to Ham’s wife. Yes, I am very cautious about basing my beliefs on esoteric material. It’s all still cooking.

        “If Ham’s wife had this gene then it was transferred to Cush through her X chromosome which was then passed down to Nimrod.”

        There’s that “X” again. Notice how that sucker just keeps coming up? No such thing as coincidence.

        “So it would seem that this gene would have remained dormant – and possibly remains dormant in all of us today – unless some type of occult activation takes place.”

        ‘Occult’ activation? Why not a technological or medical activation? Why not a DNA-altering vaccine program in conjunction with atmospherically-dispersed aerosol inhalants and genetically modified foodstuffs, to be capped off by…

        Mark of the Beast application.

        “God didn’t want any of these monsters to once again pollute the human gene pool.”

        Stop right there. Just because He ORDERED the Israelites to completely wipe out the specifically targeted Canaanites, does not mean that He wanted the Canaanites utterly terminated. He knew the Israelites would lack discipline and would fail to adequately execute the task they were given.

        Messiah said: “It is IMPOSSIBLE but that offences will come: but WOE unto him through whom they come.”

        The fact that YHWH gave the order to exterminate the targeted races, is not the same thing as saying that YHWH actually wanted the races utterly exterminated at that time. What we CAN say is that if He wanted the Canaanites utterly exterminated, then the Canaanites would have been utterly exterminated. YHWH uses even the rebellion and recalcitrance of His children as just another tool in the toolbox for the furtherance of his will.

        “God dealt out the same total destruction to these beings as he had with Noah’s Flood.”

        The destruction was NOT total in the case of the invading Israelite armies. I submit that this too was the case at the time of The Flood. I submit that the destruction of the Nephilim bloodline in the days of Noah was less than total, and that it was intended to be less than total.

        “I don’t really see any examples of the YHWH showing them mercy.”

        And behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto Him, saying: “Have mercy on me, O Master, Son of David; my daughter is GRIEVOUSLY VEXED WITH A DEVIL.”

        But He answered her not a word. And His disciples came and besought Him, saying: “Send her away, for she crieth after us.”

        But He answered and said: “I Am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the House of Israel.”

        Then came she and worshipped Him, saying: “Master, help me.”

        But He answered and said: “It is not meet to take the children’s bread and cast it to DOGS.”

        And she said: “Truth, Master. Yet the DOGS eat of the crumbs which fall from their Master’s table.”

        Then Messiah answered and said unto her: “O woman, great is thy faith. Be it unto thee even as thou wilt.”

      • Omega Files

        Touche. This definitely gives me some new theories to mull over.

        Good talk.

      • Omega Files

        Well one question. I know of a few instances in which Messiah showed mercy. But what about from the Old Testament? Anything similar?

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “…what about from the Old Testament? Anything similar?”

        Let me think about that and get back to you.

  • all4one

    Maybe technology (AI, monsanto seed, big pharma drugs, vaccinations, chemtrials and the like) is the nephilim? The giant that ‘mixes’ with man? Iron with clay. Substitute this concept with nephilim references in most texts and see what transpires. Are we approaching singularity again?

  • VoiceofReason

    It’s hard to believe that anyone, human or alien, would willingly live underground for extended periods of time. Miners only do it because there aren’t any jobs in their area of the country. They do it to feed their families.

    The psychological reasoning is because intelligent beings realize that there could be a cave in & they would be buried alive. This is why anyone with any intelligence would not do it for extended periods. Oh sure people go in & out of caves & even dive into underwater caves which are even more dangerous, but the risk taker in everyone tells them that the odds are in their favor that nothing will happen to them. Human nature also tells people that it won’t happen to me if I’m careful.

    Taking a temp risk is totally different from living in an alien base underground or under the sea. You would have to be completely devoid of your survival instinct not to let it drive you crazy after a week or two.

    There might be only one exception to this argument though & that would be that aliens must live in an atmospheric & pressure controlled environment. That is a possibility although supposedly aliens leave their craft all the time without any apparent headgear.

  • Pix

    So who is this so called “Leaker”.?

    You have no source for this story, only a web site about underground military bases.

    “Considering the Nephilim are still alive and active today,..” Says who? Where’s the evidence for your claims?

    • skwirl78

      Evidence? who needs evidence when you have photoshop pictures, and outdated information with no credible source…Ah BIN how I loathe you :mrgreen:

  • Don't be hating!

    Too bad they all gonna rot there and never to see the SUN LIGHT if Earth is detroyed…

  • Confederate

    You must be taking lessons from Susan Duclueless using YouTube “experts”. Several photos you posted here are fake or not UFOs. The pic of “ships” in a tunnel are F-6 aircraft being stored in a military bunker in Albania if I remember right. The alien in a tunnel that is reported to be at the “Dulce base “has been shown to be a fake several years ago. The tunnel is really in Russia & not used by the military. The “alien” was superimposed onto the photo! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

  • MrAnthony

    “Eye witness testimonies reveal that DUMBS range from 10 – 30 miles across and some are as deep as four miles down.”

    Looney Lisa obviously knows nothing about underground bases, because even the deepest mines (about 2.5 miles down) get incredibly hot (about 140 degrees F), so a base 4 miles underground would need ridiculous cooling systems and huge amounts of energy, along with a ventilation system. The logistical needs alone would make a series of bases impossible to conceal.

    Likewise, the weight of the rock is so much that maintaining the stability of such tunneling is problematic. The risk of being buried just from natural rock shifts would make such deep bases death traps.

    The photos are mislabeled and do not depict any deep bases. Most of the photos are actually of the Yucca Mountain nuclear repository (only 1000 feet underground). Shoddy journalism on Lisa’s part not to figure it out.

    The idea of a mag-lev train underground is equally silly. They can’t even build a high-speed train line above ground without huge problems and cost overruns. It may happen one day, but I suspect people who claim a 1500 MPH mag lev train exists have been watching too much of Gene Roddenberry’s “Genesis II” movie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_II_(film)

    “Considering the Nephilim are still alive and active today, this leads me to believe that many inhabit underground cities.”

    –Where’s the evidence for their existence, other than in Lisa’s fevered imagination? And again, if these creatures are alive, the logistical needs of having to live underground (oh, you know, light, water, food, air) would make it impossible to conceal.

    Skilled survivalists already know that living for any extended period of time in an underground bunker is a difficult proposition, with issues from air, food, and water to waste elimination. Looney Lisa would have us believe that these Nephilim are capable of living in whole underground cities without the logistical problems that would make their presence obvious. You know, like pollution, fires, radio/TV transmissions, etc. Sorry, it doesn’t pass the smell test.

    It only makes me wish Lisa would live underground for an extended period–no Internet, no YouTube, and no way for her to spread these crazy ideas that can’t even stand up to simple reality.

    • Omega Files

      They must be working you over time. Have you ever not tried to debunk something?

      Putz.

  • Truthseeker007

    In summary, a race of interbreeding bloodlines, a race within a race in fact, were centered in the Middle and Near East in the ancient world and , over the thousands of years since, have expanded their powers across the globe. A crucial aspect of this has been to create a network of my stery schools and secret societies to covertly introduce their agenda while, at the same time, creating institutions like religions to mentally and emotionally imprison the masses and set them at war with each other. The hierarchy of this tribe of bloodlines is not exclusively male and some of its key positions are held by women. But in terms of numbers it is overwhelmingly male and I will therefore refer to this group as the Brotherhood. Even more accurately, given the importance of ancient Babylon to this story, I will also call it the Babylonian Brotherhood. The plan they term their ’Great Work of Ages’, I will call the Brotherhood Agenda.

    I will refer to the clay tablets, therefore as the Sumerian texts or tablets. They are one of the greatest historical finds imaginable and yet 150 years after they were discovered they are still ignored by conventional history and education. Why? Because they demolish the official version of events…. according to (Zecharia Sitchin) the texts say that the Sumerian civilization… was a “gift from the gods”. Not mythical gods, but physical ones who lived among the. The tablets call these gods the AN.UNNAK.KI (Those from Heaven to Earth came), and DIN.GIR (The Righteous Ones of the Blazing Rockets). The ancient text known as the Book of Enoch also calls the gods the “Watchers”, as did the Egyptians. The egyptian name for their Gods, the Neteru, liberally translates as Watchers and they said that their gods came in heavenly boats.

    According to Zecharia Sitchin, the tablets describe how the Anunnaki came from a planet called Nibiru (The Planet of the Crossing)… during the early formation of the solar system, Nibiru caused the near destruction of a planet that once existed between Jupiter and Mars. The Sumerians called it Tiamet, a planet they nicknamed the Watery Monster. They say that it was debris from Tiamet’s collision with a Nubiru moon which created the Great Band Bracelet – the asteroid belt which is found between Mars and Jupiter. What remained of Tiamet was thrown into another orbit, the text says, and eventually became the Earth. The Sumerian name for the Earth means Cleaved one because a vast hole was created , they say, by the collision. Interestingly if you take away the water in the Pacific Ocean you will be left with a gigantic hole.
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles13.htm

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