Part 4-6 ...4 How Many Gods Are There for One God to Talk to ....5 In the Name of the Father...6 The Antichrist, Where?

PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY OTHER GODS IS THERE FOR “THE ONE GOD” TO SPEAK WITH?!?…and what about the voice at Jesus’ baptism?

-The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one God to pray too and Jesus is that God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our (and the flesh) benefit not his!?! ……There is only one God to pray too so if God is going to personally (in the flesh) show us how to pray to God, then he would need to do so by praying to himself. There is perfectly good coherent reasons for the one God to be praying to the one God (praying to himself).

Example: The boss comes down from his office and shows his warehouse workers how to fill out a requisition form that goes to his office (TO HIMSELF!) he fills one out signs it and dates it and forwards it TO HIMSLEF! For the express purpose of showing his subordinate how to do their work (live their lives) Who would scoff at the boss for doing this??? (appearently the triitarian mind does)

But, oh no, Trinitarians feel that if God talked to himself then that would be stupid at best and at worst make God schizophrenic or some other mental illness they fear. No sir, they will have none of it, they are on a “mission from god”. They are going to go out and save God from himself and any schizoid/mental illnesses that might “bedevil” God himself. What is even more ridiculous is that their solution to keep God from talking to himself (some mental illness they feel) is to evoke multiple person(s)-ality (deny it is a) disorder and insert it onto God’s “being” (call it one “entity”/ “The Godhead”) instead!?! Man is made in the image of God and when I see a man with multiple different personalities, in the way Trinitarians desperately need their god to be, we call it a disorder (demon possession to be more exact) not divine!?! …………………..If the One God (in heaven who is a SPIRIT) wanted to validate that it is in fact himself (on the earth in human flesh) that has come in the flesh on the earth, then a voice out of heaven telling everyone that is Himself is perfectly consistent with a coherent agenda and methodology. The voice and witness to men does not come for God’s own sake but for man’s reassurance. (John 12:30 Jesus answered and said, THIS VOICE CAME NOT BECAUSE OF ME, BUT FOR YOUR SAKES) The one person God (who is omnipresent) in heaven as well as on the earth (at the same time) wanted everyone to know that it was indeed HIMSELF “in the flesh” Suddenly we can see that the only things “bedeviled” with “many demons” (and mental imperfections) are the Trinitarian’s logic and mindset itself

-If a omnipresent God speaks from two different locations even at the same time why is that so amazing, why would Jesus need to be a ventriloquist?!? But perhaps you worship a small God who can only be and act [communicate] in one location at a time [in only one way at a time] People unwittingly put god into a box or environment for God to live in rather then God creating the box and environments for men and angels to live you. Obviously That part of the spirit of God which is connected to the flesh that was born into this world is connected to that flesh in a way that the rest of the same spirit of God is not. Ergo, the distinctions between the Father, Son and Holy spirit are distinctions in function and of circumstance/condition of the various parts of God not differences in person!?!

This is the point mentioned elsewhere that when you were born you have a spirit that gives your flesh life and when you die that spirit leaves your flesh that is what death is. However, the flesh that was born into this world called Jesus did not have a “natural spirit”, (for the sake of simplicity here we shall use soul/spirit/mind/ essence interchangeably [since the essence of spirit and soul et al are all “spiritual”] while we can make distinctions the distinctions are also only various ways of looking and referring to the basic “substance”   in parts or as a whole; Otherwise in short the soul is the substance of your person where as the spirit is the “instruction set” [nature] that governs your soul/person) the spirit in that flesh was the right arm of God giving that gave that human flesh life and animation. This is no different then your own person, your flesh is given life by the spirit/soul that is in you. So before you scoff with Jesus was just a hand puppet of God (Gods right arm in human flesh) then consider you likewise are just as much a puppet of the soul/spirit that is in your flesh the only difference is that you are a different person (then God) who’s spirit is limited to the confines of your human flesh while Christ is part of the omnipresent Spirit of God (that God considers to be His own right arm) attached to flesh but not limited to the confines of that flesh; connected in a way that the rest of God is not.  A simple thought exercise with a hand puppet animated by you (the unseen behind the curtain spirit) explains all the “difficulty” understanding with such passages as Jn 10:29-31; 12:49 et al. Imagine an entity that cannot be seen in the physical universe but it can put it’s RIGHT ARM into a physical form so as to communicate with other physical forms in a way that physical forms communicate about HIMSELF in a completely different kind of universe/existence …..NOW (after you have thought or done the experiment) EROG: Your right arm MUST refer to a “ME” (the physical form doing the communicating with other physical forms) & contrast it with a “HE”/ “YOU” / point to itself that is not perceived by the other physical forms in that other universes/existence & refer to the “HE” or a “YOU” (if demonstrating how to pray/talk to God/himself) EXAMPLE: Notice, Mat 19: 4….HE which made them at the beginning MADE THEM male and female. Jesus is the creator….Jesus is the “HE” likewise the “you” also when praying/talking. While Jesus is certainly not a flesh and bone right arm of God (If that is how you want to define “literal”)  He (Jesus) is however, that part of God that God himself considers to be his own right arm that came in the flesh. He is God, He is the creator, He gets to define the terms and “parts” of himself and the terms that God uses are the very ones that man who is made in his image are not just modalist but staunchly anti-trinitarian! His son is his right arm…The son is only a son because of the physical birth (of that part of his spirit that is His own right hand) into HUMAN FLESH that was NOT a daughter…Not a different person!?!

PART 5

What about the “trinity formula”??…..Mat 28:19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them IN THE NAME OF the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:

Some look at this verse and “see” direct evidence of three different persons, which is quite bizarre since This passages specifically makes the point that Father son and holy spirit all have the same name by placing them side by side equating those with each other as the same person!.. The passage is NOT making a distinction of three different names we are to worship in, pay homage to, baptize into!?!

(A) Placing father, son and holy spirit in the same list with each other, it identifies that father son and Holy spirit have the SAME NAME! It does not say IN THE NAMES OF it states IN THE NAME singular not plural (compare: Gal 3:16) (Phil 2:9. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given HIM A NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME:…………………….; Acts 4:12. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED.)………..There is ONLY ONE NAME that saves not three different names!!!

(B) John 5:43.  I am come in my Father’s name,

The fact that three things are mentioned in a list is not a “proof” of three different things or persons. In fact, in writing and or public speaking there is a technical use called a tetracolon and also “rule of three” it was widely used by the Greeks and roman orators of whom it is said “perfected it” even today in modern language it is widely used and scriptures use the same basic construct. A good example of this can be seen here:  in Revelation

Rev 1:2 Who bare record of (1) THE WORD of God, and of (2) THE TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ, and of (3) all THINGS THAT HE SAW. (Rev 19:9..These are the true sayings of God. .10…for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.)

Also applies to 2Cor 13:14.  The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen. …Note the use of “GOD” here rather then father….it matters not if you try to assume that father is under discussion here because the fact is there is ONLY ONE GOD PERIOD and in this verse Jesus, God and Holy Ghost are all God and all the same God.

All three of these things are the same thing/ message addressed from three different perspectives (or portions/parts) or ways of saying the same thing; It is NOT three different messages or testimonies or “Words of God” !?!

(C) Prov 30:4. Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? …… what is his name, and WHAT IS HIS SON’S NAME, if thou canst tell?

LEARN & “KNOW” WHAT “THE NAME OF THE LORD” THAT YOUR ARE BAPTISED INTO AND OR YOUR “FAITH ONLY” IS IN!?!

Ps 138:2. …. and praise THY NAME ……. for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME

Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD……………………………

PART 6

THE ANIT-CHIRST ….WHERE?…WHERE?…EVERYWHERE!!

-Trinitarianism is just as Anti-Christ as much as is ISLAM, JW, LDS, ROMAN CATHOLIC et al because (they all confess the Christ/messiah came in the flesh. Yes, even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come) they all deny WHO it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!….[ “WHO” it was (what person) that came “IN THE FLESH”, IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!

-While some have tried to point to John ” Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.”, ……. they don’t seem to realize this is speaking of all those groups who claim that Jesus was a different person then the father Trinitarians/ JW islam et al….why?.. Because while some deny the divinity of Christ other make Christ a different divinity and deny it. You see both sets of groups make the same error they point to arguments and say Jesus was a different person then his father.

Isaiah 43:10.Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and MY(the person who  is going to send someone)  SERVANT  WHOM I (The one sending) HAVE CHOSEN: that ye may KNOW and BELIEVE me, and UNDERSTAND that I AM HE: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11.  I, even I, am the Lord; and BESIDE ME THERE IS NO SAVIOUR… 13.  Yea, before the day was I AM HE; (THE servant that will be sent/Jesus) …………………. Take careful note of the fact that the Same person who is speaking in this passage, who states he is going to be sending his servant is claiming that HE is that servant that will b sent

Isaiah 48:12.  Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I AM HE; I AM THE FIRST, I ALSO AM THE LAST. 13.  MINE HAND ALSO HATH LAID THE FOUNDATION of the earth, and MY RIGHT HAND hath spanned the heavens: … THE LORD HATH LOVED HIM:  (His own right arm is the “HIM” that he have loved!: Jn 17:5,24-26; 15:9; ) … and HIS ARM SHALL BE on the Chaldeans. 15…, I have called HIM: I have brought HIM, and he shall make HIS way prosperous.

Isaiah 52:1. .. 6.Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: therefore they shall know IN THAT DAY that I AM HE that doth speak: behold, IT IS I. 7.  HOW BEAUTIFUL UPON THE MOUNTAINS ARE THE FEET OF HIM THAT BRINGETH GOOD TIDINGS,….. 10.  THE LORD HATH MADE BARE HIS HOLY ARM IN THE EYES OF ALL THE NATIONS;

Isaiah 53: 1.  … and to whom is THE ARM OF THE LORD REVEALED?……………8.  … he was cut off out of the land of the living: FOR THE TRANSGRESSION OF MY PEOPLE WAS HE STRICKEN. .. 11.  He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall MY RIGHTEOUS SERVANT JUSTIFY MANY; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12.  ….. and HE BARE THE SIN OF MANY, AND MADE INTERCESSION FOR THE TRANSGRESSORS.

WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?  …The right arm also in different form…

John 14:9.  Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?……The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man and his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?”

……………… 10.  Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?….  13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, THAT WILL I DO, THAT THE FATHER MAY BE GLORIFIED in the Son. 14.  If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I WILL DO IT. 

NOW WE GET TO THE HOLY SPIRIT:

…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”)  18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter).  The spirit was standing next to them in flesh… ….latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given)…..that is why. he would send the spirit…… However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you” The present condition was external to them but in the flesh dwelling with them but, the future condition would be internal to them .. Rom 8:9 When you “see” or “pray” to the father (in the name of the father covered further in Ch 7) you are “seeing” and praying to Jesus and visa versa and Jesus will be the one to “come” and answer because father and son are just different  parts/manifestations of the same person!?

Eph 4:4.  There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5.  ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, 6.  ONE GOD AND FATHER of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

1Peter 1:10.  Of which salvation THE PROPHETS have inquired and searched diligently, WHO PROPHESIED of the grace that should come unto you:11.  Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHICH WAS IN THEM, when IT TESTIFIED beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow………

2Peter 1:21.  For THE PROPHECY CAME not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST.

Col 1:27.  … THIS MYSTERY among the Gentiles; WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory: ….

Rom 8:9…..if so be that THE SPIRIT OF GOD DEWELL IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his………

John 6:63.  It is THE SPIRIT that quickeneth; … THE WORDS … they ARE SPIRIT, and they are life…

Rom 8:9.  … THE SPIRIT dwell IN YOU. Now if any man have not THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his.

There is only ONE SPIRIT not one spirit for Christ the man another spirit for the Father person (who is a spirit) and a third spirit called the Holy Spirit!?!?!….1Cor 12:13….There is no such thing as three different spirits who are also the same ONE SPIRIT …

The servant that would be sent would be the same person that was sending that servant by sending God’s own right arm to do The work God wants done (put your right hand into a leather glove to do some work) The big difference is that right arm/hand goes from solely existing in the spiritual universe and comes into the physical universe (made flesh).

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