Profile image
Story Views

Now:
Last Hour:
Last 24 Hours:
Total:

Top Scientists Freak Out Over New Documentary Questioning Copernican Principle- Which They Appeared In!

Sunday, June 8, 2014 12:38
% of readers think this story is Fact. Add your two cents.

(Before It's News)

In a previous article, I reported on a new documentary, The Principle, which discusses recent evidence questioning the Copernican Principle. Many eminent scientists were interviewed for the film, including Lawrence Krauss, Michio Kaku, Max Tegmark, Julian Barbour, and George Ellis. The film was narrated by Kate Mulgrew (Captain Janeway of Star Trek). All of them signed releases, were paid, and agreed to be interviewed for a film that would address controversial as well as main stream cosmological ideas. All of them interviewed before the Planck satellite returned its results in 2013 (except Max Tegmark who came for a second interview after the results were released).

When the trailer was put up in December 2013, things were quiet for a while, but suddenly in April 2014, there was a media fury (Google search “Krauss Mulgrew geocentrism”). Media outlets from Rawstory to Time to Der Spiegel were onto the story. It started when Lawrence Krauss denounced the movie on Slate, followed immediately by Kate Mulgrew claiming she was not a geocentrist, and apologizing to her Star Trek fans for her involvement! Of course none of the denouncers had even seen the movie, so it is not clear what they were denouncing. It turns out they were denouncing a movie that a minor Catholic blogger stated was trying to prove geocentrism. In fact geocentrists were interviewed in the documentary, which would make sense in a piece about the Copernican Principle, especially given the obsevations that are discussed (correlations of the universe at large with the earth). Nevertheless, this led to the movie being known as the “most reveiwed film ever by reviewers who had never seen it”. The media blitz proclaimed, without consulting obvious sources (such as the producers), that the scientists and Kate Mulgrew were tricked into interviewing for the movie.

There are two interesting facets to this event. Why would the scientists interview, cash their checks, and go on with their lives for three years, then suddenly make this an issue? The producers believe that the media storm was ignited by two causes. The first was the intervention of the Catholic blogger, which embarrassed Lawrence Krauss. Second, and more interestingly, is the fact that most of the interviews were done before the release of the Planck satellite results in March 2013. As explained in the previous article, and explained in more depth in these linked articles, the Planck results packed a significant and unexpected blow to the Copernican Principle, practically a dogma to mainstream cosmology. For more on the ‘why’, see here.

UPDATE: For yet another reason why Lawerence Krauss may have freaked out (relates to his buddy Jeffrey Epstein), see here and here. It even ties in to the 2016 presidential campaigns! #Copernicusgate.

The producers discuss these issues, plus show some of the release forms, and some very interesting clips from raw footage of the interviews on Michael Voris’ Mic’d Up show on May 28th. The story continues to change, and grow more interesting. The Principle will be released September 19th. Stay tuned for further updates.

UPDATE: Whence the Controversy Over The Principle Documentary?

UPDATE: Lawrence Krauss admits he was interviewed on live weblog. See first seven minutes of this video.

 

 

Mic’d Up “The Principle, Under Attack”

 

 

Lawrence Krauss’ Release from (from the Mic’d Up Show), upper and lower portions.

 

 

 

Report abuse

Comments

Your Comments
Question   Razz  Sad   Evil  Exclaim  Smile  Redface  Biggrin  Surprised  Eek   Confused   Cool  LOL   Mad   Twisted  Rolleyes   Wink  Idea  Arrow  Neutral  Cry   Mr. Green

Total 39 comments
  • truthseeker4809

    You have to redefine what “center” means to make any sense out of this nonsense.

    • WarAngel77711

      Or just keep going forward with the path of least resistance.

    • Sean

      The nonsense is you have been Lied to from the Start..for starters the Earth is round, but Flat..it does not move and is the Center of this Universe in a Multi-Verse.

      Einsteins BS “Theory” was to hide the Michelson-Morley Results that the Earth did not Move, while Einstein left out the Aether in his Theory, which he admitted before he died.

      Go to the Mappa Mundi and you will see what earth looks like, you can also research Piri, how about peter projection where all the maps are wrong as far as sizes, then there are the muslims who have all their maps upside down or right side up.

      Or how about this guy..with a 80.00 70mm telescope and a 70.00 camera giving you shots of the moons surface better then the billion dollar hubble telescope..how far or the focal range of this cheap set-up..guess what Charles Fort was right..the moon is only 37 miles away and 100 miles wide and if you do even more research its made of titanium and its a construct, just like the Sun, which is only 2,000 miles away.

      watch after 6 minute mark where he realizes his zoom on his camera isn’t all the way out.

      http://youtu.be/tqVDNSrKRFI

      • FusedNail

        Wow. Bullsh!tter extraordinaire!

      • Tommy

        Im sorry you feel that way…

      • outlaw107

        How can you be so naïve to think in such a manner…….

  • conscious soul

    There is ONLY ONE WAY, and that is through Jesus Christ. Please accept Christ into your heart and repent of your sins. Admit that you are a sinner and do everything you have within yourself to turn away from those sins. Jesus will not let you go once you give yourself to him. He sacrificed himself for ALL of us. Of course its not always easy because we battle not against flesh and blood but against principalities. Accecpt the way of the light, grow your faith in Christ, stand in your faith. These are the last days and WE MUST FIGHT! Love you ALL! GOD bless and may he have favor with us all!

    • JohnQPublic

      This is about serious scientists who have found evidence challenging one of the bedrock principles (assumptions) of modern cosmology theory- the Copernican Principle. yes geocentrism is one of the implications (in many forms, not only classical Scriptural geocentrism). Don’t oversimp;lify things until you have had a chance to see the film.

  • freedom007

    Why discuss the outdated idea of Geocentrism again? Just for “making” some Old Testament texts literally true again?
    How childish. What a waste of energy. No one needs to have ANY idea about whether Earth is the Centre of Universe or not, in order to follow the Golden rule and to love God and Jesus!
    Catholics, better do some more Rosaries for Peace, and forgive your enemies, and pay your debts – in order to have a good conscience and a clear mind when the great tribulations come.

    • Theron

      Please explain how we could possibly be in any other place than the center of a sphere that represents the known observable universe.
      I’m confused by the idea that we are not the center, how could this possibly be?
      If we can look for example 13.79 light years out then by default we are in fact in the center of a sphere. It can be no other way.
      Do the directional math to determine the “point of origin” of the big bang according to the Hubble red shift.
      It has been done and always the point of origin is the observers telescope.

  • Dominus Vobiscum

    I’m not a geocentrist myself (for example, if the sun revolves around the earth, then why does it appear fixed at the north pole?), but I’ve watched a couple Dr. Sungenis’s videos and I believe there’s enough legitimate science there to justify re-opening the debate.

    If the earth really is the center of the solar system, then it pretty well lays waste to the idea that the universe is the result of undesigned, random, “Big Bang” type events. So, it’s an important discussion.

    If Dr. Sungenis’s theories are scientifically unsound, then let him publish them in a scientific journal, let scientists rip them apart and move on. Easy-peasy.

    I think the scientific community is freaking out because geocentrism is more plausible than they want to admit.

    • Doccus

      AFAIK, geocentrism iosn’t about the earth at the center of the “solar system”: but the “universe”, which, frankly, seems to me that it would be pretty hard to disprove..

      • Dominus Vobiscum

        @Doccus, I think you’re right, but from the little I know, the root of the argument seems to be whether the earth revolves around the sun or vice-versa. If the sun revolves around the earth, then it’s not a big leap to say that the earth is the center of the universe.

        Here’s my question to the heliocentrists: Why does the jet stream blow from west to east? If the earth is rotating from west to east, shouldn’t the jet stream blow from east to west as a counterbalance?

        I know folks consider the issue settled many hundreds of years ago, but revelations of modern science indicate (to me, at least) that it might be prudent to re-open the discussion.

    • Man

      Dominus Vobiscum, why would you think the jetstream would need to go east to west? When you drive a car west to east, do you get more friction because you drive against the rotation of the planet?

      the reason of it is gravity

      • Dominus Vobiscum

        The earth’s rotation creates its own inertia, but that inertia should dissipate as you get away from the earth’s surface, correct?

        So, if the earth is traveling west to east, and the air above is stationary (or at least more stationary as the affects of inertia decrease), it should *appear to* travel east to west in relation to the earth. Just like the sun appears to travel from east to west.

        So why does the sun appear to travel from east to west, but the jet stream travels west to east?

        I understand inertia, I don’t see where gravity is relevant.

      • LifeIs

        Dominus Vobiscum no. The land, the sea, and the air all spin on the Earth’s axis.

        At the equator, the land, the sea, and the air spin west to east at 1,066 miles per hour.

        Plus or minus the winds and currents.

        The jet streams get their speed from the Coriolis Effect.

        When air moves toward the equator, it picks up speed, to match the spin of the Earth’s surface.

        When air moves toward the poles, it still has that velocity.

        When air moving toward the poles is stopped, because it encounters a mass of colder, polar air, what would have been a DRIFT to the east turns into nothing but eastward flow.

  • D16Dement

    This article was very poorly written. The Wikipedia on Copernican Principle was very poorly written also.

  • JohnQPublic

    Correct video is now linked.

  • Theron

    OK let me clear this up with a little logic, just a little. If there is an outer limit to observational capability, then by default, we will naturally be in the center of a sphere that comprises the known observable universe. The nature of observing makes it so we are in the center of our sphere, it can be no other way. :roll:

    • JohnQPublic

      I’ll let you take this up with Lawrence Krauss:

      http://edge.org/conversation/the-energy-of-empty-space-that-isn-39t-zero

      “But when you look at CMB map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That’s crazy. We’re looking out at the whole universe. There’s no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun — the plane of the earth around the sun — the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe.

      The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we’re the center of the universe, or maybe the data is imply incorrect, or maybe it’s telling us there’s something weird about the microwave background results and that maybe, maybe there’s something wrong with our theories on the larger scales.”

      BTW- he said that pre-Planck. Oops.

    • LifeIs

      Too little. If redshift means recessional velocity, then the clusters of galaxies are all moving away from us, and we are at the center of the big explosion.

      It’s just one MORE reason to toss the “expanding universe/big bang” mythology into the waste bin of history.

    • Tommy

      Thank you Theron.

      Thought I was alone here. So many silly miss informed comments. Euclid would be rolling in his grave…

  • okieshowedem

    Oh fools and slow of heart to believe ALL that the prophets have spoken. Luke 24:25
    Are you a fool?
    Since most sane people say they believe the Bible, let see if you do.
    We can start in the beginning in Gen.1:14-19.
    Since we can read there that the SUN moon and the stars were not created until the 4th day, may I ask what this old earth was revolving around the first 3 days?
    Now in the book of Joshua chapter 10 verse 12 we read that this servant of Moses looking up at the SUN and MOON and said SUN STAND STILL and the very next verse says So THE SUN STOOD STILL.
    Now what part of this plan simple statement is it that you don’t understand or what part of this statement is it you don’t believe?
    Remember the Messiah called you a fool if you don’t believe these things.
    Who had you rather believe that old school teacher that was taught lies then past them on to you or the Scriptures? That choice is yours to make and no one can make it for.
    As for me and my house we will believe the Scriptures.
    Have yourself a great day.

    Should you want to know more about the lies we were told come on by the web site.

    http://www.yahwehsbranch.com

    Okie

  • charles allan

    If the water at the equator is moving at 1000 mph then when it goes north say with the gulf stream how could it possibly slow down by 500 mph in say about 1month. I mean water is much heavier than air with so much more momentum – so surely the northward and southward currents would create a maelstrom in the seas when so much change of speed happens between north and south ? Eg going from say 1000 mph to 500 mph. The same problem must happen with the air except with much less momentum .

    • LifeIs

      charles allan the Coriolis effect is well understood. I didn’t make it up.

      The equatorial region IS moving at over 1,000 mph. We know this by knowing the circumference of the Earth, and by knowing from astronomy how long it takes to make one complete 360 degree rotation.

      And if the AIR wasn’t moving at that speed, you’d feel a supersonic wind in your face, when you stood at the equator.

      (Facing east.)

      The air and water DO lose that speed, when they move toward the poles.

      The energy – as I said — is enough to power the “jet streams.”

      And to (help) drive other winds, and currents.

      To use your example: the distance from the pole to the equator is about 6,000 miles.

      The 500 mph spin would be at half that distance.

      To stay synchronized with the Earth’s spin, you would need to lose 500 mph over a distance of 3,000 miles. That is 1 mph over a distance of 6 miles.

      • JohnQPublic

        The Coriolis effect/force could also arise due to a rotating universe against a stationary earth, at least according to Einstein and Mach. Also in aether theories, there would be a counter interaction between the aether and the atmosphere.

  • JHShanghai

    See Chuck Misslers lectures on “The Science of God”, and “Bible Codes.” Its not the Catholic Church thats the hero here…its the Bible…or more correctly…the Torah, Tenach, and Greek New Testament which were, I recall, suppressed by the Catholic authorities. It was Jewish scholars who made discoveries of the multi-verse…and other non-Catholic scholars who were led by the Holy Spirit to discover the hidden messages in the Scriptures and verify beyond any doubt the Scriptures are the breathed word of our Heavenly Father.

  • Antron Argaiv

    “Who had you rather believe that old school teacher that was taught lies then past them on to you or the Scriptures? That choice is yours to make and no one can make it for.
    As for me and my house we will believe the Scriptures.”

    For my religious questions, the scriptures are adequate authority.
    For my scientific needs, I prefer to go to experts in the field. I’ll trust the scientists on science, because they obviously know enough to put satellites and space probes where they want them.

    • JohnQPublic

      Since cosmology is 90% philosophy, who will you trust for the philosophy? As to putting probes into space, I would personally go with engineers. They used simplified Newtonian mathematics, but it works on the planetary scale quite well. No need for cosmology there. If you put a cosmologist in charge of launching satellites, you will probably end up with a black hole- in the ground! :lol:

  • Canderson

    Michio Kaku/ You can not simply replace a question with a remedy (for what? You hide something) By the way it was a nasty question. But I do think we are entitled to some answers (old tech by now)

  • Canderson

    The Crash. Preplanned destined, ring a bell Mr Michio Kaku?
    Will you ever change your way? As you are working today you are pretty much useless to the people. I do think you posses a great mind but why be that evil scientist?

  • Canderson

    Michio Kaku:
    It is us against the Marxist (Socialist,Nazi,Communist Order)
    Why did you even think of the 2008 crash it was not your purpose.

  • Canderson

    Perhaps you could make a Movie out of WHY they changed their minds, Why, Why, Why?
    Dumb question it is not about mind it is about power…death kill. (power=murder)
    If we do not fix this.. climate Earth we get extinct (all), we need new rulers out of necessity, we can fix this, (I think I could if I had the powers)

  • Canderson

    I could direct in the right way, I am a different smartness from you, out of the BOX. You still do the work. You are lost right now.

  • Canderson

    Look if the Solar System is exposed to warming, Perhaps the Earth react like;

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091557/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_35

    And Yes I hate you. You have to change. You took everything.

  • okieshowedem

    Here is the bottom line.
    Any one who reads the Scriptures AT ALL should know of the account found in the 6th book of the Bible.
    Now there are two side to this whole story the right side and the wrong side. Needless to say most of those people that are educated by this evil beastly educational systems are brain dead as to what really maters in this life, or the one to come seeing how most of them don’t believe there is more to life than this state of being. It’s O.K.. they will understand sooner or later, hang in there folks it only get better. In the end TRUTH wins I have read the last chapter.

    http://www.yahwehsbranch.com

    Billy D.613

  • JohnQPublic

    Original comments (now missing):

    truthseeker4809

    You have to redefine what “center” means to make any sense out of this nonsense.
    Jun 8, 2014, 4:30 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply

    WarAngel77711

    Or just keep going forward with the path of least resistance.
    Jun 8, 2014, 6:57 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    sean

    The nonsense is you have been Lied to from the Start..for starters the Earth is round, but Flat..it does not move and is the Center of this Universe in a Multi-Verse.

    Einsteins BS “Theory” was to hide the Michelson-Morley Results that the Earth did not Move, while Einstein left out the Aether in his Theory, which he admitted before he died.

    Go to the Mappa Mundi and you will see what earth looks like, you can also research Piri, how about peter projection where all the maps are wrong as far as sizes, then there are the muslims who have all their maps upside down or right side up.

    Or how about this guy..with a 80.00 70mm telescope and a 70.00 camera giving you shots of the moons surface better then the billion dollar hubble telescope..how far or the focal range of this cheap set-up..guess what Charles Fort was right..the moon is only 37 miles away and 100 miles wide and if you do even more research its made of titanium and its a construct, just like the Sun, which is only 2,000 miles away.

    watch after 6 minute mark where he realizes his zoom on his camera isn’t all the way out.

    http://youtu.be/tqVDNSrKRFI
    Jun 10, 2014, 7:46 am Like Dislike Report SPAM -1 Reply
    FusedNail

    Wow. Bullsh!tter extraordinaire!
    Jun 10, 2014, 11:11 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0
    Tommy

    Im sorry you feel that way…
    Jun 10, 2014, 3:34 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0

    conscious soul

    There is ONLY ONE WAY, and that is through Jesus Christ. Please accept Christ into your heart and repent of your sins. Admit that you are a sinner and do everything you have within yourself to turn away from those sins. Jesus will not let you go once you give yourself to him. He sacrificed himself for ALL of us. Of course its not always easy because we battle not against flesh and blood but against principalities. Accecpt the way of the light, grow your faith in Christ, stand in your faith. These are the last days and WE MUST FIGHT! Love you ALL! GOD bless and may he have favor with us all!
    Jun 8, 2014, 6:23 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 1 Reply

    JohnQPublic

    This is about serious scientists who have found evidence challenging one of the bedrock principles (assumptions) of modern cosmology theory- the Copernican Principle. yes geocentrism is one of the implications (in many forms, not only classical Scriptural geocentrism). Don’t oversimp;lify things until you have had a chance to see the film.
    Jun 9, 2014, 11:03 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply

    freedom007

    Why discuss the outdated idea of Geocentrism again? Just for “making” some Old Testament texts literally true again?
    How childish. What a waste of energy. No one needs to have ANY idea about whether Earth is the Centre of Universe or not, in order to follow the Golden rule and to love God and Jesus!
    Catholics, better do some more Rosaries for Peace, and forgive your enemies, and pay your debts – in order to have a good conscience and a clear mind when the great tribulations come.
    Jun 9, 2014, 5:06 am Like Dislike Report SPAM -1 Reply
    Dominus Vobiscum

    I’m not a geocentrist myself (for example, if the sun revolves around the earth, then why does it appear fixed at the north pole?), but I’ve watched a couple Dr. Sungenis’s videos and I believe there’s enough legitimate science there to justify re-opening the debate.

    If the earth really is the center of the solar system, then it pretty well lays waste to the idea that the universe is the result of undesigned, random, “Big Bang” type events. So, it’s an important discussion.

    If Dr. Sungenis’s theories are scientifically unsound, then let him publish them in a scientific journal, let scientists rip them apart and move on. Easy-peasy.

    I think the scientific community is freaking out because geocentrism is more plausible than they want to admit.
    Jun 9, 2014, 8:30 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 1 Reply

    Doccus

    AFAIK, geocentrism iosn’t about the earth at the center of the “solar system”: but the “universe”, which, frankly, seems to me that it would be pretty hard to disprove..
    Jun 9, 2014, 8:38 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Dominus Vobiscum

    @Doccus, I think you’re right, but from the little I know, the root of the argument seems to be whether the earth revolves around the sun or vice-versa. If the sun revolves around the earth, then it’s not a big leap to say that the earth is the center of the universe.

    Here’s my question to the heliocentrists: Why does the jet stream blow from west to east? If the earth is rotating from west to east, shouldn’t the jet stream blow from east to west as a counterbalance?

    I know folks consider the issue settled many hundreds of years ago, but revelations of modern science indicate (to me, at least) that it might be prudent to re-open the discussion.
    Jun 9, 2014, 9:16 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0
    Man

    Dominus Vobiscum, why would you think the jetstream would need to go east to west? When you drive a car west to east, do you get more friction because you drive against the rotation of the planet?

    the reason of it is gravity
    Jun 9, 2014, 11:26 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Dominus Vobiscum

    The earth’s rotation creates its own inertia, but that inertia should dissipate as you get away from the earth’s surface, correct?

    So, if the earth is traveling west to east, and the air above is stationary (or at least more stationary as the affects of inertia decrease), it should *appear to* travel east to west in relation to the earth. Just like the sun appears to travel from east to west.

    So why does the sun appear to travel from east to west, but the jet stream travels west to east?

    I understand inertia, I don’t see where gravity is relevant.
    Jun 9, 2014, 12:02 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0
    LifeIs

    Dominus Vobiscum no. The land, the sea, and the air all spin on the Earth’s axis.

    At the equator, the land, the sea, and the air spin west to east at 1,066 miles per hour.

    Plus or minus the winds and currents.

    The jet streams get their speed from the Coriolis Effect.

    When air moves toward the equator, it picks up speed, to match the spin of the Earth’s surface.

    When air moves toward the poles, it still has that velocity.

    When air moving toward the poles is stopped, because it encounters a mass of colder, polar air, what would have been a DRIFT to the east turns into nothing but eastward flow.
    Jun 9, 2014, 2:09 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0

    D16Dement

    This article was very poorly written. The Wikipedia on Copernican Principle was very poorly written also.
    Jun 9, 2014, 9:30 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    JohnQPublic

    Correct video is now linked.
    Jun 9, 2014, 10:45 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Theron

    OK let me clear this up with a little logic, just a little. If there is an outer limit to observational capability, then by default, we will naturally be in the center of a sphere that comprises the known observable universe. The nature of observing makes it so we are in the center of our sphere, it can be no other way. :roll:
    Jun 9, 2014, 11:30 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply

    JohnQPublic

    I’ll let you take this up with Lawrence Krauss:

    http://edge.org/conversation/the-energy-of-empty-space-that-isn-39t-zero

    “But when you look at CMB map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That’s crazy. We’re looking out at the whole universe. There’s no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun — the plane of the earth around the sun — the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe.

    The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we’re the center of the universe, or maybe the data is imply incorrect, or maybe it’s telling us there’s something weird about the microwave background results and that maybe, maybe there’s something wrong with our theories on the larger scales.”

    BTW- he said that pre-Planck. Oops.
    Jun 9, 2014, 11:54 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    LifeIs

    Too little. If redshift means recessional velocity, then the clusters of galaxies are all moving away from us, and we are at the center of the big explosion.

    It’s just one MORE reason to toss the “expanding universe/big bang” mythology into the waste bin of history.
    Jun 9, 2014, 11:56 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Tommy

    Thank you Theron.

    Thought I was alone here. So many silly miss informed comments. Euclid would be rolling in his grave…
    Jun 10, 2014, 10:34 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 1 Reply

    okieshowedem

    Oh fools and slow of heart to believe ALL that the prophets have spoken. Luke 24:25
    Are you a fool?
    Since most sane people say they believe the Bible, let see if you do.
    We can start in the beginning in Gen.1:14-19.
    Since we can read there that the SUN moon and the stars were not created until the 4th day, may I ask what this old earth was revolving around the first 3 days?
    Now in the book of Joshua chapter 10 verse 12 we read that this servant of Moses looking up at the SUN and MOON and said SUN STAND STILL and the very next verse says So THE SUN STOOD STILL.
    Now what part of this plan simple statement is it that you don’t understand or what part of this statement is it you don’t believe?
    Remember the Messiah called you a fool if you don’t believe these things.
    Who had you rather believe that old school teacher that was taught lies then past them on to you or the Scriptures? That choice is yours to make and no one can make it for.
    As for me and my house we will believe the Scriptures.
    Have yourself a great day.

    Should you want to know more about the lies we were told come on by the web site.

    http://www.yahwehsbranch.com

    Okie
    Jun 9, 2014, 12:41 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    charles allan

    If the water at the equator is moving at 1000 mph then when it goes north say with the gulf stream how could it possibly slow down by 500 mph in say about 1month. I mean water is much heavier than air with so much more momentum – so surely the northward and southward currents would create a maelstrom in the seas when so much change of speed happens between north and south ? Eg going from say 1000 mph to 500 mph. The same problem must happen with the air except with much less momentum .
    Jun 9, 2014, 4:05 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply

    LifeIs

    charles allan the Coriolis effect is well understood. I didn’t make it up.

    The equatorial region IS moving at over 1,000 mph. We know this by knowing the circumference of the Earth, and by knowing from astronomy how long it takes to make one complete 360 degree rotation.

    And if the AIR wasn’t moving at that speed, you’d feel a supersonic wind in your face, when you stood at the equator.

    (Facing east.)

    The air and water DO lose that speed, when they move toward the poles.

    The energy – as I said — is enough to power the “jet streams.”

    And to (help) drive other winds, and currents.

    To use your example: the distance from the pole to the equator is about 6,000 miles.

    The 500 mph spin would be at half that distance.

    To stay synchronized with the Earth’s spin, you would need to lose 500 mph over a distance of 3,000 miles. That is 1 mph over a distance of 6 miles.
    Jun 9, 2014, 4:32 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    JohnQPublic

    The Coriolis effect/force could also arise due to a rotating universe against a stationary earth, at least according to Einstein and Mach. Also in aether theories, there would be a counter interaction between the aether and the atmosphere.
    Jun 9, 2014, 4:56 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0

    JHShanghai

    See Chuck Misslers lectures on “The Science of God”, and “Bible Codes.” Its not the Catholic Church thats the hero here…its the Bible…or more correctly…the Torah, Tenach, and Greek New Testament which were, I recall, suppressed by the Catholic authorities. It was Jewish scholars who made discoveries of the multi-verse…and other non-Catholic scholars who were led by the Holy Spirit to discover the hidden messages in the Scriptures and verify beyond any doubt the Scriptures are the breathed word of our Heavenly Father.
    Jun 10, 2014, 7:42 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Antron Argaiv

    “Who had you rather believe that old school teacher that was taught lies then past them on to you or the Scriptures? That choice is yours to make and no one can make it for.
    As for me and my house we will believe the Scriptures.”

    For my religious questions, the scriptures are adequate authority.
    For my scientific needs, I prefer to go to experts in the field. I’ll trust the scientists on science, because they obviously know enough to put satellites and space probes where they want them.
    Jun 10, 2014, 9:22 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply

    JohnQPublic

    Since cosmology is 90% philosophy, who will you trust for the philosophy? As to putting probes into space, I would personally go with engineers. They used simplified Newtonian mathematics, but it works on the planetary scale quite well. No need for cosmology there. If you put a cosmologist in charge of launching satellites, you will probably end up with a black hole- in the ground! :lol:
    Jun 10, 2014, 10:21 am Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply

    Canderson

    Michio Kaku/ You can not simply replace a question with a remedy (for what? You hide something) By the way it was a nasty question. But I do think we are entitled to some answers (old tech by now)
    Jun 11, 2014, 12:14 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Canderson

    The Crash. Preplanned destined, ring a bell Mr Michio Kaku?
    Will you ever change your way? As you are working today you are pretty much useless to the people. I do think you posses a great mind but why be that evil scientist?
    Jun 11, 2014, 12:23 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Canderson

    Michio Kaku:
    It is us against the Marxist (Socialist,Nazi,Communist Order)
    Why did you even think of the 2008 crash it was not your purpose.
    Jun 11, 2014, 12:28 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Canderson

    Perhaps you could make a Movie out of WHY they changed their minds, Why, Why, Why?
    Dumb question it is not about mind it is about power…death kill. (power=murder)
    If we do not fix this.. climate Earth we get extinct (all), we need new rulers out of necessity, we can fix this, (I think I could if I had the powers)
    Jun 11, 2014, 12:48 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Canderson

    I could direct in the right way, I am a different smartness from you, out of the BOX. You still do the work. You are lost right now.
    Jun 11, 2014, 12:55 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    Canderson

    Look if the Solar System is exposed to warming, Perhaps the Earth react like;

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091557/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_35

    And Yes I hate you. You have to change. You took everything.
    Jun 11, 2014, 1:11 pm Like Dislike Report SPAM 0 Reply
    okieshowedem

    Here is the bottom line.
    Any one who reads the Scriptures AT ALL should know of the account found in the 6th book of the Bible.
    Now there are two side to this whole story the right side and the wrong side. Needless to say most of those people that are educated by this evil beastly educational systems are brain dead as to what really maters in this life, or the one to come seeing how most of them don’t believe there is more to life than this state of being. It’s O.K.. they will understand sooner or later, hang in there folks it only get better. In the end TRUTH wins I have read the last chapter.

    http://www.yahwehsbranch.com

    Billy D.613

    • JohnQPublic

      comments are back. Admin can delete this if they want.

  • truthlovingsoul

    let’s face it, theories are only theories unless and until any of us attains a rocketship, goes on out and has a look for ourselves.
    none of knows.

Top Stories
Recent Stories
 

Featured

 

Top Global

 

Top Alternative

Register

Newsletter

Email this story
Email this story

If you really want to ban this commenter, please write down the reason:

If you really want to disable all recommended stories, click on OK button. After that, you will be redirect to your options page.