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3 Censored Sky Map Images (With Very Similar Declinations)

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For over a year now Iv’e been investigating the images that are restricted from the public internet sky maps,The missing IRAS data on the Google sky Infra red map has been the main focus of my attention,Also an image off to the bottom left of the constellation of Orion also caught my attention,Both of these restricted images are very similar to each other.

Image 1, Virgo IRAS ,Declination -8

Image 2, bottom left of Orion ,Declination -6

There are strong similarities in both of the images,with regard to the emissions trailing off to the left,coincidence perhaps? Some people have claimed that the missing images from Google sky are merely gaps in the map plate stitching,or areas of space that just were not imaged,this I find extremely dubious to say the least,I emailed David Morriosn at nasa asking what was going on with the restricted images of Saturn in virgo,his response was, to quote

“If you are seeing images of Saturn then thry must be fake,IRAS was not an imaging mission”.

Not content with this I emailed the IRAS image hosts at the California Institute of Technology with a similar email,I wrote and told them that someone had claimed their images as fakes (but I did not tell them who) their response contradicts David Morrisons email, to quote

“the images are not fake,as there would be little point to an archive hosting fraudulent data”

they went on to tell me that all the planets appear as double exposures on the IRAS data,this is not true it is only Saturn.When I wrote to reply to tell them It was David Morriosn who had claimed their images fake my email returned as failed,meaning they’d blocked my email from asking any more sensible questions.not the actions of honest folk,

As ambassadors for all things space you’d think that these people would get their stories straight before pressing the send button? The images that Google et al use are not the only ones that are restricted,there’s one more important image to include,

Image 3, Vizier map from 2004 using data from 7 surveys.

After a while I began to wander what area of space is missing from the above image,so I downloaded an image of Aitoff’s sphere of projection with galactic marker and worked out the co-ordinates by overlapping a grid on to the Vizier map,

Image 3a same as image 3 but with co-ordinate grid added.

then I realised all the above images share very similar declination co-ordinates,Virgo at -8, Orion at -6 , Ophiucus & Scutum at -5 to -10. Coincidence perhaps or are all 3 missing images the same object imaged at different times? I then plotted all 3 areas approximate positions onto one map,could these sky map restrictions be more than just gaps in the map plate stitching?

Image 4 all of the above missing images added onto one map to highlight (in yellow) the similarities in the declination co-ordinates 

Perhaps In time these images will become uncensored,IRAS was conducted In 1983 over 29 years since the survey started,why are these Infra red images still restricted today?.Perhaps It Is time for the removal of the sky map censorship.

If you share my views that these sky maps should be uncensored please sign and share these petitions

http://www.change.org/petitions/sky-map-censorship (for everyone worldwide) 

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/26244  (for uk residents)

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    • scatchleyii

      LOL, as much as I’d like the images to be uncensored, a petition is going to do nothing but possibly bring heartbreak to those who sign it. It is possible that the ptb won’t like the fact that it’s being signed and do something negative to those who do. So, then the question is, are they hiding something? Quite possibly. Why? Because if the data are shown then some investigators might make statements that cause mass hysteria. What is it that’s being hidden then, if it is being hidden? Well there is a possibility that a the Sun has a twin that follows a 3600 year elliptical orbit, a failed star, or a dark dwarf star. What would be the consequences of such an object and its orbit? Well, you see, here’s the difficult part. This object, if it exists, could cause massive electromagnetic shield dropping of Earth and quite possibly could drag objects (see the video games Missle Command and Asteroids for a comical simile) along with it that could devastate Earth (see also the extinction of the Dinosaurs). An electromagnetic (EM) shield drop could cause a massive radiation event (see barren landscape like in the movie DUNE) that would fry most of the stuff on Planet Earth’s surface. A magnetic pole reversal, or magnetic repulsion event could even cause a massive axis tilt event which would probably do something worse than the radiation event (see people being thrown for miles and massive Earthquakes, Tsunamis, and Volcanoes worldwide). SO quite honestly, the people that know about this POSSIBLE object are scared out of their britches about it closing in on Earth (if it exists) and are also scared about people finding out on a mass scale, because if they find out it exists (haha if it exists, still speculation- you see), the masses will rave mad and that will probably be the end of all organized civilization which would be almost as bad as if the possible object (LOL if it exists hehe) comes close enough to Planet Earth to cause any of the aforementioned events. Also, (if it exists- ROFL)(see Denver Airport Mural, see people taking photos of extraterrestrial objects in space, ie Nibiru System sitings) the ptb would want to keep as many folks in the dark so that those with the most $$$ (see fake fiat created imaginary trade units called Dollars, Yen, Jian, Rubles, Pesos, whatever the heck the Eurocurrency is called these days) and power (see anyone who owns a Major Bank, Diamond Co., Oil Co., or is a leader of any major country or religious institution, ie Vatican) can go hide in underground installations while the masses get, well you know, use your imagination.
      Anyway, all kidding aside, I recommend that if people really want to know what is there, they should do their own research. The ptb are NOT going to respond to any petition in a positive way, just my point of view.
      Additionally, all kidding aside, I do recommend that you and others find faith in Jesus Christ, because trying times may indeed be shortly ahead.
      And I don’t say that to sound like a bigoted, so-called Bible-thumper. I’ve made so many mistakes in my life that I’m far beyond humble. I know I’m no better than anybody else.
      I just encourage you to ask Jesus to come into your heart because He is the Truth and I do sincerely care for each and every one of you out there.
      And I do mean that.
      May the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all!

    • WTFU

      Why sign a petition??Surely there are private astronomers around the world that could image those areas for you.Pictures worth a thousand words.

    • Well Hidden

      I can image look up any areas myself with my own telescope,if anything was worth blocking off it will have moved by now as the surveys were all conducted years ago,the petitions if the target numbers are reached would start the ball rolling in getting these maps amended to include the numerous missing boxes.

    • scatchleyii

      Sorry folks, but this object in its current position (er um… if it exists hehe) will NOT be visible in the visible light spectrum. I would recommend (again lol if it exists) looking with infrared, x ray, or purple filtration ie violet spectra filter. You see, the problem with seeing a dark star is just that. Its DARK, hehehe. One more thing, (again, if it exists lol) it should be by the sun about right now, which presents 2 more issues. 1- that sun sure is a bright thing… 2. You Won’t see it at night. But boy, that earthquakke activity sure does seem to be on the upside along with volcanic activity. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm……. ;.) Y ask Y

    • Well Hidden

      Your Preaching at the converted,I know all about the surface temperature of the object,If it exists, will probably be a black dwarf not brown,or a small black hole.

    • None

      Trying to make breakthrough astronomical discoveries using Google Map is like listening to a State of the Union address and then rash online and blog OMG We Are In Crisis..lol

    • scatchleyii

      Actually, to be very honest, I’m extremely shocked that someone allowed the blackened out areas to show up as black boxes. I think the more clever way to do it would have been to color those areas in with fake images. I’m sure someone suggested that but for some reason that idea was overruled.
      Also, if you dig deep enough, you can find the real images and descriptions. I wont tell you where though because I don’t want to compromise any existing data or individuals (including myself) . One more thing, if a great number of people signed a petition to legalize heroin or crack, do you think it would happen?
      No, and not for the reason that many think.
      Government is very jealous of a few things …….

    • Anonymous

      obama is making money hand over fist with the drug dealing his cronies and him are involved in, as far as the blackened areas in space who cares, if your not up to date on planet x and its path your in trouble!!

    • Well Hidden

      wtf has drugs got to do with a petition for the removal of the sky map censorship?,sweet fa,this article is merely pointing out the similarities between the censored images,if you cannot offer any sensible comments,keep your opinions to yourself.

    • scatchleyii

      Two things. Power and control. Obviously two things that you don’t know a great deal about as evidenced by thinking a petition is a possible solution. If you want to be so harsh to others, maybe you shouldn’t post.
      Your loving govt will respond in a loving way. Really?
      Have fun signing that petition by the way…
      You really don’t have any idea do you?
      I really do feel sad about that in so many ways.
      Go ahead believing that you live in a world that has an open door policy where you can petition for redress of grievances.
      Better yet, write a letter to every single member of Congress, the prez and every other “authority ” you can think of. I’m sure it will go far.(Not)
      Have you ever heard about the Game “Monopoly “?
      That was the point I was trying to make.
      Its no wonder the “authorities “treat people to black box sky maps with the types of emotional responses people would make if they actually had knowledge of a shred of the truth.
      You obviously missed my whole point.
      This subject is SO sensitive it is literally a national security issue and the ptb don’t really want to lose anything such as power or money.
      I do wish you the very best though.

    • HfjNUlYZ

      @scatchleyii………. Thats some fascinating stuff there. I don’t know anything about astronomy, although I do have a telescope if someone can ell me where to look. are we talking about 12/21/2012 when this thing (hehe if it exists )passes?

    • Spuffmunki

      I’ll sign it. I think everyone should sign it, pass it around.

      Yeah, might not make any difference, but it might ensure that one or two more people will start question.

      There’s not enough Amateur Astronomers with the right sort of equipment to be able to see pretty much anything.

      It’s pretty vast out there.

    • Mellissa

      Thanks for the info, there are many blanked out spots and I always wonder whats under them. I also wonder what is under all the paint jobs on Google earth. White paint applied badly to mountains, flat blue for waters in mountains and other spot.

      In time hopefully we will have a full sky map to see, tho our small amount of surveyed space in the milky way is a small ball on the outer limb. Lots of unimaginable space for things to exist.

    • Well Hidden

      thankyou Spuffmunki & Mellissa, even if the petitions don’t reach their target numbers at least more people will be aware of the authoritarian censorship,incidentally iv’e tried emailing the governments both here in the uk and in the states,the uk gov failed to reply,even though they have rules of reply times to all forms of correspondence,I was sent a complaint form by the uk space agency after there reply time expired,that got ignored too,that in itself speaks volumes…

    • HfjNUlYZ

      scatchleyi, i agree with you, i guess a petition would be useless…what about pple who cannot or know not how to investigate further on their own?

    • shoeupon67

      NEXT TRAIN TO AUSCHWITZ ALL ABOARD TO YOUR FEMA  CONCENTRATION DEATH CAMPS. MR MORISSON WILL TAKE YOUR HANDS AND LEAD YOU TO THE GAS CHAMBER.

    • Well Hidden

      A petition is not useless as it lets them know that we are more aware than they’d give us credit for,I doubt though that they’d do anything even if the petitions reach their targets,but it would make an interesting discussion in the government houses if the target numbers were reached,just it getting discussed would be a start.

    • scatchleyii

      Well, I didn’t mean to sound too, well mean, but I was upset a bit by the seeming scolding for using a parallel of sorts. Anyway, Well Hidden should be happy as this story has skyrocketed in popularity on this site. For that, I’m very happy for Well Hidden.
      I just know from personal experience what types of canned reactions the ptb will have to this petition or questions. I don’t mean to sound heartless however.
      Quite the contrary, I might add. I would like a more straightforward way of doing things. I just think reality is something much more different. Money or resource control/allocation will have a better possibility of getting the truth from official sources. The whole system is a bribery/kickback/blackmail conundrum. I admit it may take a while for some, maybe even many others to find that out however. The system is a false paradigm, essentially that traps people into thinking they actually have a say. I know, tragic, however true.
      I don’t know if those in Europe know this yet or not, but the USA is in turmoil in many ways, and I believe things are going to get much worse, but thats a different subject. I want to try to stay topical if for no other reason, for the article writer’s sanity and well-being.
      If one wants to research this object, you DO NOT need a telescope, or any of the fancy infrared, x-ray, or violet filtration equipment.
      All you need is the internet. I suggest searching under planet x (even though its a misnomer extroidinaire- this object is a failed dwarf star)
      Some say its the Nibiru system, and it very well could be. This dwarf star (here I go again, hehe, if it exists, LOL- still speculating, see…) has atleast 4 satellites, and one of them could be the planet Nibiru (hehehehe, LOL, still speculating, if it exists)
      Beware though, if you research this, you surely will run into spam, sales sites, disinfo trolls, and the whole lot of gamits, just to throw you off course, of course, a horse is a horse- after all…
      Additionally, if you want to “see if for yourself”, you might, might being the operational word, be able to see it (if it exists, ROFL) with a violet colered film over your camera’s lens. I’m going to warn you again though, if you do this, BEWARE of bleaching your eyes out with the sunlight.
      The very best time to do this is when the sun is setting or rising, and conditions are partially cloudy or no clouds at all.
      The ptb are doing their very best to cover this object (hehehehehe LOL, if it exists) with chemtrails (again LOL, if they exist- of course)
      I know I see jets with trails jetting toward the sunset and doing acrobatic maneuvers right under and to the sides of it each and every clear, partially cloudy day.
      I must warn you again, please do NOT look at the sun. It is a bright thing, and WILL cause you to go blind if you are not careful.
      On a sidenote, CONGRATULATIONS Well Hidden. I am indeed extremely happy that you have had popular success with this story. The story IS a very important item, and people should know about it. I was just trying to present a pragmatic POV when it comes to dealing with, well, “officials” and “authorities”.
      Cheers Mate!!! (If I may call you that)

    • Well Hidden

      No worries scatchleyii,I may seem a bit harsh but this is a serious subject and one that iv’e spent a lot of late and sleepless nights on,planet x has millions of google search results and yes there is a lot of diss info out there,reading Harvard’s astro physics papers on the topic makes me think there’s more to this than what meets the eye,I own a decent meade telescope ,but looking for a black or brown dwarf is futile unless you see it passing a distant star which would be neigh on impossible if it is incoming.time will tell if it’s real or not,but the Harvard papers steer me to believe it’s very real.even if it is impossible to spot,
      P.s I agree that looking at the sun is extremely dangerous plus all you see is lens flares. also i have not voted since 1992,governments are dodgy always have been always will be,govern means to control ment is of the mind…enough said :)

    • HfjNUlYZ

      Well Hidden, congratulations for the important story! i admire your struggle, i said it would be useless to sign that petition cause it would be ignored or delayed. I guess the best thing to do is gather pple who know stuff and are able to come up with solutions, ex: Scatchleyi!..i mean, whats the point in getting the info out and sign petitions if we cannot come up with solutions? im almost sure they are aware that some of us are aware..and sometimes i think they let pieces of the puzzle out for us to put them together, maybe they want to save only those of us capable to understand, even if i dont think that would be fair.

    • Well Hidden

      thanks anon, To be fair I know they’ll never act if the petitions reached their targets but it’s worth the attempt,lets them know there are people out there that are aware of their cover ups and conspiracy.would they want all the populous to survive though?.

    • HfjNUlYZ

      i guess even at the highest levels there are divisions..maybe some of them would want us all to survive,but the majority clearly doesnt, and if there is a choice to be made between risking everyone s lives and saving only part of the population..well..what would you chose, Well hidden??

    • oladyinashu

      Just yesterday, I watched a short video of an big white looking planet VERY close to the Earth. The video looked authentic, it was taken from Antarctica. Some of the comments immediately saying it was a fake, so I went back to the article, and lo and behold it was already taken down!

    • Well Hidden

      no surprise,if there is an object imaged at Antarctica the powers that be won’t let it stand for too long.
      If i had the choice of keeping quiet or warning people I’d warn everyone,as we all have a right to life.

    • scatchleyii

      Two things that would be helpful
      1.) The times that the images were taken along with specific coordinates
      2.) Knowing a good friend that is also an astrophysicist to plot its corse.
      I’m not sure 2012 will be the year of most concern (if it exists-LOL) although I can tell you it may be looking like it with strange noises worldwide, abnormal weather, earthquake and volcano increase, barium/stronyium/aluminum spraying of the atmosphere, etc et al. I think we may be seeing Revelation in action. Check out Rev12 and 13 along with Wormwood. There have been strange lights all over the world including Jerusalem. There was a strange holographic horse seen in Egypt (could it have been the pale horse- I’m not sure)
      Also, I’ve heard (if this object is real :.) ) if you are endeavoring to survive its consequences, you need atleast one and a half feet of lead above your head as well as a large food and weapons cache.
      I on the other hand will cling on to my Bible because if it is Revelation time, going underground will not be the answer unless Jesus leads us there.
      For my two cents, I think I’ve seen enough to believe that our sun does indeed have a twin that once every about 3600 years plays havoc with the inner planets.
      I might add though, I’ve been wrong many,many times in the past and in a lot of ways I hope I’m wrong about this.

    • Techstuf

      Google: Huge Media Blackout and read the links provided at the bottom of the comments section. Earth’s (and so too the moon’s) orbit has changed and the sun appears MUCH further north in summer months than before.

      Read Luke 21:25-28 and see that what is written there is now taking place to the letter.

      Now that the moon’s orbit has it swaying all over the sky every two weeks, it is possible to predict large quakes with shocking regularity. Contrary to what the PTB would have you believe, the moon’s gravity does not just pull on trillions of tons of sea water and leave earth’s magma untouched….no…not by a long shot.

      Blessings in Christ Yeshua be upon all gathered here.

      P.S. Youtube: Inner life of a cell and see Harvard’s amazing expose of just what goes on inside each of your trillions of cells….Let’s just say that the “evolutionists” got it waaayyy wrong. Case in point, man is not the first bipedal organism, as many an intellectual coward would have us believe.

      Also, Youtube: Flagellar motor and see how myriad bacteria swim around inside your body. That’s right! Electric motors attached to propellers, complete with magnets, stators, rotors, bushings, universal joints, etc!

      In an AWE inspiring way, we are wonderfully engineered!

      Youtube: Kirk Martin, see that his is but one of MANY amazing stories, then, if you be among the number of those who have not found our Savior, kneel in private and do as Scratchleyii has asked, Ask Yeshua, Jesus Christ to come into your heart and share with you the waters of Eternal Life!

    • Well Hidden

      I think we all hope it’s not true,I did look into the co-ordinates of all the images but who knows for sure what dates for what image,with regard to Saturn in Virgo IRAS the images were taken 10 days apart between july 14th and 24th,a facebook friend thinks that parts of Revelations are already happening,I’m not religious as such,that’s not to say I don’t believe in a creator or God,
      Iv’e been emailing someone inside nasa since last August he’s not confirmed nor denied X’s existence,when i asked him where to look for the late Dr Harrington’s planet x he said the best place to look would be the ecliptic since the t,n,o’s that have been recently discovered (sedna eris etc) don’t perturb the outer planets orbits very much,
      meaning there’s something else out there causing the perturbations in the outer planets orbits.
      considering the likes of nasa’s David Morrison vehemently deny x’s existence why would another man at nasa offer advice on where to look…
      One thing I do know,If it is a wipe out event I’d like to think I’d get an advanced email warning from the more learned people in my email contacts.

    • Well Hidden

      Next full moon at perigree will likely cause the next big quake,3 days after the last perigree full moon Sumatra had its big quake,once the tides abate the pressure releases off the oceanic plates,the next perigree full moon on the 6th of may is closer again than the last one.but on the 6th Jupiter is in opposition,my friend at nasa said that Jupiter may have a marginal effect,that’s almost an admittance that the other planets contribute to earthquakes.
      the moons eccentricity has increased,the sun is accelerating and has been for many years,binary systems all round.

    • Mellissa

      Mars has also moved ( from my visual spot ) Or we have and the visual has changed I mean. I am a sky watcher, sun stalker and a star nut. So any clear night that is above -5 I go out to watch the sky. So it is not just a new hobby. Mars had risen in the exact spot ( when visible ) for the last 5 years living here, now it is more south and no longer rises up between two fence posts, that it always did.

      I also use a few sky apps and they do not match up now properly. When compared to the sky everything is a little off. Moved in a south direction, that is the same all over it seems.

    • Well Hidden

      iv’e been a star nut since nasa’s first shuttle launch when i was a small lad :) I noticed that with my Meade lx90,either the whole solar systems out of tilt or the gps is inaccurate,every time i go to any object it’s way off from where it should be,thanks for all the input folks and thanks to the site hosts for allowing my articles :)

    • scatchleyii

      I have also seen that moon/planet looking object from Antarctica. If its the large oneim thinking about, I think that’s a fake image. There are some interesting real images being taken down there though.
      I think an object that was as large as the one shown from some folks would have already caused many horrific events.
      If this dwarf star and its satellites exist, I think it is just now making its turn back out from the sun towards the outer part of the solar system.
      After re-reading the article, I’m even more convinced the black boxes are concealing the winged destroyer.
      I’ve heard atleast one credible source say its essentially a ball of Iron throwing off iron dust.
      I’m beginning to think it is more similar to Jupiter in composition and the wings are caused by the sphere dragging dust and objects it robs (thief in the night reference) from the Keiper and possibly asteroid belts.
      The composition of the object, I think, is probably Hydrogen, Helium and other noble gasses at small concentrations.
      The star, if it exists-and I think it does, is extremely dense and for some reason or another just did not ignite.
      That’s not to say it isn’t possible it won’t happen sometime in the future.
      Interesting, but maybe perilous.

    • scatchleyii

      Well, with this late April snowstorm in the e/ne of the USA I’m thinking we may be seeing axis tilt at its beginning.
      I also began to wonder if the object, if it exists, could be composed of iron and gasses, an iron giant with a bunch of gas, lol

    • Well Hidden

      Looking at the top 2 images there’s definitely something trailing off to the left..
      If the late Dr Harrington was right the object won’t intrude any further than the asteroid belt,i did do some maths based on distance moved between the 2 exposures of Saturn with black blob (iras Virgo) divided into time elapsed since and time between images (10 days 9 hours),came to the conclusion that if the twin images of Saturn where an eclipse (and it sure looks that way when you take a few steps back from the screen and take a look)then the object will be on an outward journey by now,having moved some 330+ degrees of space since 1983. http://irsa.ipac.caltech.edu/cgi-bin/ISSA/nph-issa?objstr=13+48+36+-8+36+14&size=1.0+deg&band=3&iraspsc=1&coordinate_grid=1&submit=submit the more I look at the above link image the more i see,on the right exposure there’s a blatant bit of coloring in in the bottom section,take a few good steps back from your computer screen then have a look,I see an eclipse happening.Could iras have been sent up purely to view this object? survey ran from jan to Nov but ran out of fuel several months early as they had to take more images of 1 area of space when they found something they weren’t (or where expecting) ,Saturn’s the only double image in the whole survey and was imaged in July several months before the survey was due to end,perhaps Saturn was used as an illumination backdrop for the object?that certainly makes sense to me.to view something dark use something bright behind…

    • scatchleyii

      Sounds reasonable, all of what you said.
      Actually I found an interview (wish I would have bookmarked it) where this guy was saying he was in on a live feed of the Hubble looking at the object.
      He described it as red with trails of red dust. He said the feed was cut 30 sec in.
      The issue that people in the know are concerned about is not the object colliding with Earth.
      The issues are asteroids or meteors/rocks being dragged along with it hitting Earth, the object

      causing axis tilt/orbit change, and the object possibly causing the em shield to drop from Earth resulting in massive radiation.
      That may be why dumbs are being constructed/have been constructed.
      Looks like under the Denver airport is where the ptb plan to bug out.
      The weird sounds being heard around the world may be a type of sonic feedback

    • Anonymous

      Just tell us where Nibiru is.

      If you really know where Nibiru is, then post the info here.

      Thank you

    • Anonymous

      scatch, you are correct.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll show you mine, if you show me yours….

      THESE ARE THE LAST Coordinates we had 5h 53m 27s, -6 10′ 56

    • Anonymous

      scatchleyii,,, when you are referring to “an iron giant with a bunch of gas, lol ”

      Are you talking , like in Methane Gas??

    • Anonymous

      I like scatch, be nice.

    • Anonymous

      So Mellissa , what is the angle degree difference…If one Degree equals 67 miles….
      I would like to know how many miles off we are.

      When the Sun did not show itself on Jan 13, 2011, coming out of the Land of the midnight sun, It rose 2 days early, on Jan 11, 2011.

      David Sereda calculated that we were 500 miles off,. Therefore that calculates to about 7.5 degree tilt.

      Can you measure the distance where Mars use to rise between the posts, and where it rises Now???

      Would be most delighted

    • Fake-it

      Nibiru will start to be visible to amateur astronomers only as of mid 2030′s. Not sooner.
      However, by that time, that will be the last preoccupation of ours, because the cosmic rays will destroy us much sooner.
      Better enjoy a few more NORMAL years before the shtf.
      If you want to know more see my blog here: http://escapetophilippines.wordpress.com/free-booklet-life-beyond-2012/

    • Well Hidden

      thanks for the link but it really was not needed.

    • Well Hidden

      Way off the mark PhillipinoBob, Sedna is not Nibiru,sorry to disappoint,Sedna and the other recently discovered trans Neptunian objects (t,n,o’s) don’t perturb the outer planets very much,meaning something other than Sedna is the cause of the wobbles in the outer planet orbits ,if this object that people call Nibiru does exist it will likely be beyond Sedna’s orbital direction.

    • Mellissa

      @anon :D I will do that the first clear night I have here In south Canada. I will even take some pictures. I took a few blurry Venus shots last night, it seems farther over as well, but I never had anything to
      base it on to check. With Mars rising between those two posts, and now not at all I have a visual base to start on.

      Here’s to hoping its clear sky’s soon. We have snow today! Now this is nothing special for Ontario. Tho some in America are now having a taste of late April snows, the jet stream has changed and is moving around the weather as well as the ‘alleged’ moved earth.

      I am not even sure why people are not open to this possibility, it has been happening for millions of years, tilt change, environmental changes because of it. Everything moves, and changes. Long ago the north pole was at Hawaii, now its racing to Siberia.

    • Anonymous

      Thank you, Melissa, for responding to the question from the other anonymous, and for continuing to offer your valuable info. I feel abundantly grateful to everyone who posts the results of their research here, including scatch, well hidden, even PhillipinoBob…

    • scatchleyii

      To one anon, this is almost pure speculation, but I would think a hard iron core with the rest very much as Jupiter, but I admit I don’t really know that much about that stuff. To the other anonymous, I think it is just bending its way back from the sun towards the Oort cloud, it being the winged destroyer dwarf star which could contain Nibiru as one of its atleast 4 satellites.

    • Anonymous

      Right, scatch, I think the dark star could be out there while its “planet” Nibiru, which is orbiting the dark star, could be much closer to earth.

    • Anonymous

      What is truly odd is that people are willing to let go of the political paradigm, the economic paradigm, even their religious programming, but the one thing they cling to is the timeline.

      It’s as if they don’t even question it. They know all the rest of it is a lie, but they cling to that mainstream historical timeline without even questioning it for a second. That tells me that “Time” is the real illusion. The illusion of time is what the people are not yet seeing through.

      Time and space are the illusions. The real truth of who we are is infinite space and infinite time. The more human beings begin to breakthrough to truth to see beyond the illusion that they are separate from space and time, they will realize we ARE infinite space and we ARE immortal. Time has no power over us. We are time, we are timelessness, we eternity, we are the now that creates the illusions.

    • Anonymous

      The topic is sensored space. Thank you for staying on topic.

    • Anonymous

      You’re saying our complicity, and our cooperation, is required BEFORE the illusions can be put into place?

      You’re saying we must first agree that they are more wealthy, more powerful, and far more superior to us and THEN, because of that, we think we want what they have and so we buy their lies and pay for them with our lives?

      I’m either very confused or the shackles and chains are disappearing before my eyes.

    • Well Hidden

      IF it was dx = 3 dx), THEN, SOMETHING NEEDING EXPLANATION would (likely) be out there. BUT, AT PRESENT, it is dx > |x|. This means that the extra-precession is quite compatible with ZERO (NOT necessarily that it IS ZERO!). In turn, this means that what one can say is: ok, GIVEN THAT EXPERIMENTAL RANGE [x-dx, x+dx] of values for a Saturn’s perihelion anomaly, AT WHICH DISTANCE SHOULD BE LOCATED A X WITH MASS M_X = (put the figure you wants and get the correspondingly distances), IF IT EXISTED, TO CAUSE A PERIHELION PRECESSION WITHIN THE MEASURED RANGE [x-dx, x+dx]? In this job several factors enter: the features of the perturbED KNOWN planet (eccentricity, inclination of its orbit, etc., etc.) and the position in the sky of the putative perturbER X all contributes in a non-trivial way.

    • Well Hidden

      damn just tried to paste a copy of an email from one of Harvard’s authors but only part of it made it in the above comment.

    • Well Hidden

      i’ll try again in segments,

      Hello, Stuart Kingston.

      Gravitation acts universally, i.e. in the same way, among any chnuks of matter, which mutually attract each other. Thus, if X existed, it should perturb the motions of ALL of the major (and minor) KNOWN bodies of the solar system in a predictable way. Since, at present, there are no such perturbations in the planets’ motions, the only thing one can do is to put CONSTRAINTS on the MINIMUM distance at which X might be located IF it was real.

    • Well Hidden

      So, you canNOT say that X does NOT exist AT ALL: you can only put LIMITS on the MINIMUM distance at which it MIGHT BE LOCATED IF IT WAS REAL. As more and more accurate data from planets are gathered and processed, such a MINIMUM distance of X gets LARGER and LARGER, that is, X is pushed away and away.

    • Well Hidden

      Then, you must CROSS-CHECK such limits of purely DYNAMICAL origin (that is, basd on the orbital dynamics of planets and the gravitational pull which would be exerted by a putative X) with OTHER limits inferred with OTHER, INDEPENDENT techniques based, for example, on DIRECTLY ELECTROMAGNETIC DETECTTION.
      Hope this help.
      Happy Easter
      name omitted for anonymity reasons

    • Well Hidden

      I did email the author back to ask further questions but he refused to communicate further.stating i’d be better off asking someone else…

    • Anonymous

      Prepare now to have your mindblown. Please watch the following videos:

      Avebury 2008 crop circle of solar system / expanding sun: http://youtu.be/tGoN545BKZU

      David Sereda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6No8HIzXRlA

    • Well Hidden

      Youtube is by far worse media than the actual media.

    • Well Hidden

      Here’s another pasted email from my inbox,this is what i sent to a friend at nasa
      Hello **** happy Saturday,
      If the wind dies down & It stays clear tomorrow night myself and a handful of friends are off via minibus
      to one of numerous high hills here in the south west of the u.k,
      If i was looking for Dr Harringtons presumed Planet X where would be the best place to look based on his papers etc??
      Any ideas??
      Kind regards
      Stu

    • Well Hidden

      the reply…

      Wouldn’t have a clue. Believe the work is out of date, compared with some of the other papers you’ve referred to. So the only likely answer is the ecliptic, since the TNO’s that have been discovered way out of the ecliptic plane don’t perturb the other planets’ orbits very much.

    • Spuffmunki

      ‘Excellent Thread Award’

      WEll Hidden, it’s good to see someone puts some effort into research.

    • Well Hidden

      Thanks Spuffmunki there’s more to tell too,
      Nasa’s last shuttle launch last May was live on Ustream,& i regularly chatted in the chatroom facility there,when it was the last shuttle launch day i checked my emails to find an email from Ustream saying they where down for maintenance on that day,which was a cheap trick to stop me posting to the high amount of people watching that day,nobody else to my knowledge had scheduled maintenance on that day,they didn’t want my posts getting out to a wider larger audience,would they have done this if I was some nutter talking bollox? (pardon my language)I had one serious rant that day,I suppose they thought lets send him a scheduled maintenance email in the hope that he stays away,I didn’t fall for it and saw it for what it was immediately,the chatbox still worked that day even though the tv screen was down,since then iv’e been even more determined and have looked deeper into the topic,perhaps there’s more truth to planet x than what the likes of Nasa’s David Morrison would have you believe.why else would they have played such a cheap trick?

    • Anonymous

      The SUN IS EXPANDING… look it up online. Do some research. The sun’s expansion and contraction is more conspicuous than Nibiru. What the sun is about to do will shock us all in ways you cannot fathom. This hype about Nibiru and Planet X is to keep our eyes looking everywhere BUT the sun. Talk about “cheap tricks”… this is it. I’m not saying Nibiru isn’t real. I’m saying we’re moving into the galactic equator AND the dark rift. The energies in this region of the galaxy is affecting our SUN and our entire solar system are causing completely unexpected events. If you’re totally preoccupied with Nibiru you’re missing the huge party goin’ on.

    • Well Hidden

      I did hear about this galactic alignment later this year,as the solar system is bound by gravity the galaxy will have a greater force,just thinking about it is daunting enough,as the moon contributes towards our earthquakes what will our passing through the central band of the milky way cause.to be honest our sun is approximately about half way through it’s life,when it turns red we should worry,as the sun will then consume the inner planets as it expands,my moneys on the binary companion,explains why our sun’s been accelerating for however many years.

    • Well Hidden

      Just an observation,this article has had over 17,000 views In less than 7 days,yet when you view the top space category or all space stories my article does not appear in any of the lists.Is someone making sure these articles are kept out of sight?…

    • Anonymous

      Yes

    • Anonymous

      Listen to this interview over and over until it sinks in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6No8HIzXRlA

    • Anonymous

      Take a look at this disinfo about the melting of Antarctica:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08sDlxhNEHQ&list=UUAY-SMFNfynqz1bdoaV8BeQ&index=4&feature=plcp

      They claim the melting is being caused by the warm ocean waters.

      Clearly, the RED on this image does NOT correlate with the incoming “warm” waters
      but rather the RED is the melted ice and snow coming from BELOW the surface of
      Antarctica.

      What is BENEATH the surface that is causing this melting? Volcanoes

      Active and dormant volcanoes and calderas are all over the Earth.
      Two million volcanoes are beneath the sea. There are also volcanoes beneath the snow and ice of Antarctica. Since volcanic activity is breaking all previous records and since the RED areas of showing on this video of Antarctica indicates volcanic activity BENEATH the surface layer of ice and snow, what can we then imagine is about to occur in the Antarctic region? More extreme, abrupt melting of the ice and snow which will effect sea levels around the world. If a volcanic eruption is imminent. Imagine the mega-tsunami around the world and what this will do to coastal areas. Look again at the NASA video above which I linked to this post.

    • Anonymous

      17,000 people have viewed this article. A very small percentage have commented. ?

    • Anonymous

      Here’s what an undersea volcano looks like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_OLtT6M6JY

      They were under only 90 minutes when it erupted.

      Since volcanic eruptions are escalation around the world, the volcanic activity beneath the oceans and beneath the layers of ice and snow in the Antarctic, on Greenland, and at the arctic circle are all most likely increasing as well.

      Researchers around the world warn us: Move out of the cities. Move away from coastal regions, away from rivers, flood zones and all other low elevations. Move out of the the southern hemisphere. Move out of the eastern half of the U.S. Tsunamis, heatwaves, tornadoes, hurricanes, and forest fires are expected to decimate the eastern half of the U.S.

      Have you seen the most recent reports from NOAA and the IPCC ?

      What will it take for people to take action?

    • Anonymous

      Expected Cosmic Events:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q2Du_DkKbo

      PLEASE WATCH!

      BE AWARE!

    • Well Hidden

      http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1991S%26T….81..360T have a click and read of this,titled “plates, Pluto and planets X”, even the Harvard Astrophysics department gets censored,have a read through the keywords of the article,

    • Anonymous

      ok, thank you, well hidden, and thank you to the other anonymouses… lol…

    • Anonymous

      Well Hidden, can you write an article about this “satellite” image of Antarctica from NASA?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08sDlxhNEHQ&feature=player_embedded#!

      The image has obviously been altered. Look how it first shows up on the screen
      and then suddenly the ocean’s currents show up
      and then there is no relation between the water temperatures of the sea,
      which we’re not allowed to see, and the melting temperatures on the ice and snow

      Why have the heat indicators been removed from the ocean’s waters?

      Why is RED pouring out of Antarctica when there’s no RED in the sea?

      Why claim the melting is coming from the sea when this is not at all what the image reveals?

      Did you know volcanic eruptions have doubled in 2012 over previous years?

      That is the activity for the volcanoes on land. If underwater volcano eruptions have also doubled,
      what does that tell us about the changing temperature of the ocean’s waters? What does that tell us about the speed of the melting of Antarctica, Greenland and the Arctic Sea? What does that tell us about the sea level rise?

    • Well Hidden

      Hey anon,you don’t need me to write an article for you,
      Earthquakes have been on a rapid increase in the past 20 years+,also near earth objects have also been on a rapid upward trend.volcanic activity has been a part of this planets everyday life since before the time of the dinosaurs,fair enough 1 big volcano eruption or a massive quake to near to the ice caps and we all get taken out Noah’s flood style .
      I did read a paper a while back explaining the present and future effects of our pollution on the ice caps,I’ll try and find the link for you,but we’re straying away slightly from this articles topic of discussion.

    • Well Hidden

      http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/10/11681/2010/acp-10-11681-2010.pdf this doesn’t go into volcanic’s as such but it’s relevant.

    • Well Hidden

      http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1991S%26T….81..360T
      Keywords:
      PLANETS, ASTRONOMY, POPULAR, PLUTO, PLANET X, DISCOVERY, PROCEDURE, EARTH-BASED OBSERVATIONS, TELESCOPE METHODS, TECHNIQUES, HISTORY, ASTEROIDS, RETROGRADE MOTION, POSITION (LOCATION)

      Think this would make for excellent reading if it wasn’t unavailable to view…

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