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Planet Nibiru Doesn't Exist CSIRO Scientists Show, Pulsars Make A GPS For The Cosmos, Could Guide Starships To Alpha Centauri

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CSIRO scientists have written software that could guide spacecraft to Alpha Centauri, show that the planet Nibiru doesn’t exist … and prove that the Earth goes around the Sun.

Dr George Hobbs (CSIRO) and his colleagues study pulsars — small spinning stars that deliver regular ‘blips’ or ‘pulses’ of radio waves and, sometimes, X-rays.

 

Navigating with pulsars is ideal for spacecraft going beyond our solar system. Voyager 1, shown here, is now more than 18 billion kilometres from Earth and heading into interstellar space.  

Credit:   NASA/Astro0 

Usually the astronomers are interested in measuring, very precisely, when the pulsar pulses arrive in the solar system. Slight deviations from the expected arrival times can give clues about the behaviour of a pulsar itself, or show whether it is orbiting another star, for instance.

“But we can also work backwards,” said Dr Hobbs. “We can use information from pulsars to very precisely determine the position of our telescopes.”

 
Dr George Hobbs with CSIRO’s Parkes telescope.
Credit: CSIRO
 

“If the telescopes were on board a spacecraft, then we could get the position of the spacecraft.”

Observations of at least four pulsars, every seven days, would be required. “Each pulsar would have to be observed for about an hour,” Dr Hobbs said. “Whether you can do them all at the same time or have to do them one after the other depends on where they are and exactly what kind of detector you use.”

A paper describing in detail how the system would work has been accepted for publication by the journal Advances in Space Research.

Spacecraft within the solar system are usually tracked and guided from the ground: this is the role of CSIRO’s Canberra Deep Space Communication Complex, for instance. But the further out the craft go, the less accurately we can measure their locations.

For voyages beyond the solar system, spacecraft would need an on-board (‘autonomous’) system for navigation. Gyroscopes and accelerometers are useful tools, but the position information they give becomes less accurate over time.

“Navigating with pulsars avoids these problems,” said Deng Xinping, a PhD student at the National Space Science Center in Beijing who is the first author on the paper describing the system.

Scientists proposed pulsar navigation as early as 1974. Putting it into practice has recently come closer, with the development of fairly small, lightweight X-ray detectors that could receive the X-ray pulses that certain pulsars emit. NASA is exploring the technique.

“For deep-space navigation, we would use pulsars that had been observed for many years with radio telescopes such as Parkes, so that the timing of their pulses is very well measured,” said CSIRO’s Dr Dick Manchester, a member of the research team. “Then on board the spacecraft you’d use an X-ray telescope, which is much smaller and lighter.”

Dr Hobbs and his colleagues have made a very detailed simulation of a spacecraft navigating autonomously to Mars using this combination of technologies and their TEMPO2 software.

“The spacecraft can determine its position to within about 20 km, and its velocity to within 10 cm per second,” said Dr Hobbs. “To our knowledge, this is the best accuracy anyone has ever been able to demonstrate.”

“Unlike previous work, we’ve taken into account that real pulsars are not quite perfect, they have timing glitches and so on. We’ve allowed for that.”

The same pulsar software can be used to work out the masses of objects in the solar system.

In 2010 Dr Hobbs and his colleagues used an earlier version of the software to ‘weigh’ the planets out as far as Saturn — to six decimal places.

The Earth is travelling around the Sun, and this movement affects exactly when pulsar signals arrive here. To remove this effect, astronomers calculate when the pulses would have arrived at the Solar System’s centre of mass, around which all the planets orbit.

“If the pulsar signals appear to be coming in at the wrong time, we know that the masses of the planets that we are using in the equations must be wrong, and we can correct for this,” Dr Hobbs explained.

The new version of the software lets the astronomers rule out unseen masses, including any supposedly undiscovered planets, such as the notorious Nibiru.

“Even if a planet is hard to see, there’s no way to disguise its gravitational pull,” Dr Hobbs said. “If we don’t detect the gravitational pull, then there’s no planet there. Full stop.”

And what about showing that the Earth goes around the Sun? Yes, they can do that too.

“This was nailed a couple of hundred years ago,” said Dr Hobbs. “But if you still need proof, we’ve got it.”

Contacts and sources:

Helen Sim

 
Citation: Deng XP, Hobbs G, You XP, Li MT, Keith MJ, Shannon RM, Coles W, Manchester RN, Zheng JH, Yu XZ, Gao D, Wu X, Chen D. 2013.Interplanetary spacecraft navigation using pulsars. Accepted for publication in Advances in Space Research.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1307.5375



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    • UnstoppableTruth69

      Anyone else notice how the “source” / “original” article on CSIRO doesn’t even mention Planet X / Nibiru?

      OP, Please explain yourself.

      You cannot simply state “Planet Nibiru Doesn’t Exist” and then have Zero evidence to back it up.

      • Anonymous

        Did you even read the article before inserting foot in mouth?

        ” The new version of the software lets the astronomers rule out unseen masses, including any supposedly undiscovered planets, such as the notorious Nibiru.

        “Even if a planet is hard to see, there’s no way to disguise its gravitational pull,” Dr Hobbs said. “If we don’t detect the gravitational pull, then there’s no planet there. Full stop.”

    • Saber

      They take all the fun out of that Nibiru thing don’t they

    • tonyj2972

      LOL…how funny…..if it doesn’t exist why waste ya time proving its not there?….If ya so smart fix the economy….a lot of money goes to your research to only have ya prove we the only one’s that exist. OK, we are Happy Happy Happy

    • Chris Thomas

      It’s interesting that this “article” tries to refute a well known pronouncement without any mention of the source they are debunking, a testament to modern online forum journalism and/or the guile of the disinformation artists. This is clearly a product of the U.S. black ops attempting to shoot down ZetaTalk(.com), for it was Nancy Lieder of ZetaTalk who originally published that fact that Earth has stopped in orbit. I blogged on the this here:
      http://survivingthepoleshift.com/2013/01/30/earth-stopped-in-orbit-for-9-years-the-how-and-why/

      In order to believe the assertions in this work, one would have to first believe that the CSIRO science agency would buck any scientific status quo trend to get to the truth; also, that agency would have to have a track record of doing so, in order to earn the respect of the independent thinkers of the world. Additionally, the money is in following the trend: The United States government alone spends $10.6 million a day and $4 Billion annually on Climate Change research; as the saying goes: “follow the money”. It’s also obvious that a scientific agency has to toe-the-line if they want to play ball with NASA or with the ESA. If the big boys are saying Nibiru doesn’t exist, you better be saying the same thing if you want cooperation, which equals money, which equals paying the rent and being able to have that fancy car or have that vacation. Here the depositor of disinformation-seed is saying the o-so-obvious of status quo science.

      You have to ask yourself, why would such a subject as denying the existence of Nibiru show up here with NO LINKS in the story to back up it’s claims that smack of speculation, and ask the public to believe that a multi-billion, possibly trillion dollar space industry, that has vehemently worked to stifle discussion of Nibiru for decades, to believe them?

      I blog on Nibiru (Planet X), the Pole-Shift and related subjects here: http://survivingthepoleshift.com

    • Shofar

      Hi skeptics,

      Watch those 2 link if you want to understand, for the proof watch the video of CFH Telescope, in the beginning of the movie there’s a multiple cut’s, but if you look carefully the movie in slow motion, you will see this image with nibiru just beside of the big white star, Arcturus.

      /space/2013/06/the-red-dragon-nibiru-2461446.html
      /space/2013/06/the-truth-about-system-planet-x-2461540.html

      If you want to see a picture i took whit my Blackberry phone whit an infrared filter:
      http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/members/shofar/

      Are you ready?? Get ready!!

      Maranatha!!

    • Deaths Gate

      “the new software lets you rule out unseen masses, if the planet is hard to see, you can’t hide the gravitational pull, if we don’t detect gravitational pull, then there is no planet there”

      yep, pretty hard to find and detect something that isn’t there to begin with. lol.

      • Shofar

        Hi deaths gate,

        You’re writting look smart, but those are only words, bring the proof, i bring proof whit Stellarium, and a picture, what do you have, absolutly nothing.

        By the way deaths gate, is that a new account whit no story in, just to put this comment??

        Here a link, just for you:

        http://vineoflifenews.com/twin-sun-story-breaking-timeline-of-august-17-september/

        Find Christ today, He give is life for us, we are at the door of God jugement, areyou ready?? Get ready!!

        Maranatha!!

        But alas to those in gestation and nursing in those days! For there shall be great distress upon the earth, and wrath to this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and be led captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles may be fulfilled. 25 And there will be signs in the sun and in the moon and in the stars; and commotion of the nations of the earth in their perplexity, the sea and the wave roaring; 26 the souls of men failing from fear, and expectation of those things coming upon the world: for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And these things beginning to take place, straighten up, and lift up your heads; because your redemption is nigh (Luke 21:23-28)

        • Deaths Gate

          yes, i created this account a year ago, just so i could bandy words with you, lol.
          i’ve checked everyone’s proof, and the proof is that there is nothing to prove.

        • Shofar

          Than continu,

          Christ is the Truth, in a near futur you will be witness of the God judgement, but the question is, are you ready to meet him??

          Jesus-Christ is the way, the light and the truth, NO one goes to the father exept by Him.

          God bless man!!

        • UnstoppableTruth69

          This article is meant for a Scientific Discussion to take place. Not for you to rub your pseudoscience down everyones throats. Just because you believe in something doesn’t mean the rest of us have to follow.

          Stay on topic next time,

    • mutant1

      well it does kinda have a way of never showing up. i’ve seen some compelling vids about a “second sun” but that has been going on for a few years, and still nothing has become apparent.
      but ya never know..

      • Anonymous

        The author of this trash has just one a scholarship to one of 7 Israeli universities in the tweeting for zion contest. Congratulations!

    • HereAmI

      It’s interesting that this individual states that if the data from incoming pulsar signals don’t fit his equations, he just re-engineers the equations until they do. This appears to be a constantly updated process; ie the equations never actually and finally fit and can be left alone. Science however should be about taking data, and creating a hypothesis from it; this is called induction, and then making predictions based on those suppositions; which is called deduction. If these deductions seem to have predictive value, then we have a theory which can be further tested.
      However if such predictions do not fit with newly incoming raw data, then the theory must be discarded, not bent into ever-more grotesque shapes until it does.
      But what we have here is an underlying false premise, ie that intermittent signals from pulsars are generated by those pulsars spinning. The obvious conclusion however, from the irregularity of the signals arriving, is that the pulsars are not spinning objects, but electrical discharge phenomena. Such may be irregular in frequency; but an object spinning at thousands of times per second cannot be an irregular phenomenon. Therefore pulsars are not spinning.
      Hobbs then expands the territory of myth by stating that the sun orbits the earth. He says that “This was nailed a couple of hundred years ago”. The vast majority of people also believe this to be the case, and so will take his comment at face value. However, if this were really the case, then the Michaelis-Menten experiments of a mere century ago would not have caused such extreme and decades-long consternation in the astronomical community of which he is a part; because they revealed that it could not be demonstrated that this is occurring as hypothesized, ( but again not proved ), by Copernicus in 1543.
      Perhaps Dr Hobbs could comment on why it is that the earth’s oceans, exposed to the inertial effects upon them of an allegedly spinning ( that idea again ) and orbiting earth, do not respond in the way which science nailed several hundred years ago, and rise up in the Mother of all Tsunamis.

    • HereAmI

      It’s interesting that this individual states that if the data from incoming pulsar signals don’t fit his equations, he just re-engineers the equations until they do. This appears to be a constantly updated process; ie the equations never actually and finally fit and can be left alone. Science however should be about taking data, and creating a hypothesis from it; this is called induction, and then making predictions based on those suppositions; which is called deduction. If these deductions seem to have predictive value, then we have a theory which can be further tested.
      However if such predictions do not fit with newly incoming raw data, then the theory must be discarded, not bent into ever-more grotesque shapes until it does.
      But what we have here is an underlying false premise, ie that intermittent signals from pulsars are generated by those pulsars spinning. The obvious conclusion however, from the irregularity of the signals arriving, is that the pulsars are not spinning objects, but electrical discharge phenomena. Such may be irregular in frequency; but an object spinning at thousands of times per second cannot be an irregular phenomenon. Therefore pulsars are not spinning.
      Hobbs then expands the territory of myth by stating that the earth orbits the sun. He says that “This was nailed a couple of hundred years ago”. The vast majority of people also believe this to be the case, and so will take his comment at face value. However, if this were really the case, then the Michaelis-Menten experiments of a mere century ago would not have caused such extreme and decades-long consternation in the astronomical community of which he is a part; because they revealed that it could not be demonstrated that this is occurring as hypothesized, ( but again not proved ), by Copernicus in 1543.
      Perhaps Dr Hobbs could comment on why it is that the earth’s oceans, exposed to the inertial effects upon them of an allegedly spinning ( that idea again ) and orbiting earth, do not respond in the way which science nailed several hundred years ago, and rise up in the Mother of all Tsunamis.

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