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The Big Bang may never have happened

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Brett Smith for redOrbit.com – Your Universe Online

As crazy as it sounds, we’ve all kind of accepted the part of the Big Bang Theory that says the universe started as a single point around 13.8 billion years ago. The thing is – a lot of theoretical physicists aren’t enthralled with that idea, as a lot of widely-accepted general relativity equations start to break down as you approach the “singularity”.

One recently published study asked the question: What if the there was no Big Bang and the universe has been around since…forever?

“The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there,” Ahmed Farag Ali, a physics lecturer at Benha University in Egypt, told Phys.org.

No singularity, no “big crunch”

Published in the journal Physics Letters B, the new study from Ali and his co-author Saurya Das resolved questions around the singularity with an entirely new model based on concepts put forward by the unorthodox theoretical physicist David Bohm in 1950. The study team said they were particularly interested in Bohm’s investigations into quantum trajectories.

In the new study, Ali and Das applied Bohm’s equations to an equation formulated by physicist Amal Kumar Raychaudhuri while working at Presidency University in India. The theoretical model the two physicists came up with does not predict a Big Bang singularity. It also does not predict a “big crunch,” or the theory that gravity will cause the universe to eventually collapses in on itself, returning to a singular point.

The researchers said their model doesn’t predict singularities because of a major difference between classical and quantum trajectories: classical trajectories eventually cross each other and quantum trajectories never do.

Quantum fluid

The study scientists also argued that their quantum modifications can be thought of as a universal constant that disposes of the need for dark energy, on which the current Big Bang Theory is based. The new study terms maintain that the universe has a specific size and, therefore an unlimited age. The calculations also make predictions that agree strongly with current findings and observations of the universe, the researchers said.

The new study also puts forward the idea of a universe filled with a quantum fluid that might be made of gravitons—theoretical massless particles that regulate gravity. If gravitons exist, they are suspected of play a major role in a theory of quantum gravity.

The study authors noted that their model was not applied ad hoc in an attempt to challenge the Big Bang singularity. However, they said they are now motivated by the possibility of resolving the Big Bang singularity and accounting for both dark matter and dark energy. The study team said they plan to apply their model more rigorously in the future and this upcoming work should include reworking their calculations while considering additional factors. They said these additional considerations should not significantly affect their current conclusions.

“It is satisfying to note that such straightforward corrections can potentially resolve so many issues at once,” Das said.

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    • Bill Lyle

      Interesting theory. Thanks for posting.

    • Andor

      To even believe there was such thing where something developes from nothing, one has to be a total idiot!!

      • Bill Lyle

        Ok. This is probably going to go into a huge tirade, but here goes.
        Nothing exists in a vacuum. I get that. However, there’s usually two trains of thought on this matter. Either the creation of the universe was a singular event (like the Big Bang), or it was the work of a creator-deity. Now, if nothing exists in a vacuum, where did the deity come from? Please don’t say that God is eternal, and is the only thing that CAN, in fact, exist in the pre-universal vacuum.

        • IpseSenex

          Well, yes God is eternal. If you go with the premise of the article that there was no big bang and the universe just ‘is’ then that completely fits with the Genesis account that God is the creator.
          As for Him existing in a vacuum, He is spirit so see Him rather as extra-dimensional and existing outside of the 4 dimension which we inhabit. I’ll borrow from Shakespeare’s Hamlet: “There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

          Science only thinks it has all the answers.

        • GUNNY

          “…pre-universal vacuum.”

          Satan,

          Why do you presume that a vacuum existed prior to the “universe”? A vacuum implies space. Space implies (if not requires) time.

          Entirely speculative:

          Thinking of eternity as a very long ‘time’ is a mistake. Eternity is the opposite of time. Eternity is probably more of a ‘where’ than a ‘when.’ So if a Creator exists in eternity, and He moves to create another ‘where’ (the “universe”) outside of and apart from His ‘where’ (eternity), then He could suddenly bring into being space-time and matter, without leaving behind the enigma of His own genesis. In His ‘where’ there is no genesis because there is no time.

        • BEEFUS SUPREME

          Other beef,
          Why, that is exactly the way we all did it to create here!
          Only thing is, there is not one “god’ that created here.
          There were trillions upon trillions of gods that created “here”!!!

          We are getting closer and closer, other beef supreme!

    • LifeIs

      No, WE didn’t accept that the Universe began from a point, or a ball.

      If the Universe was a point, or a ball, 13.8 billion years ago, then when you look at objects 5 billion light years away, you’re looking into a smaller universe. 10 billion light years away, even smaller.

      And your lines of sight converge, such that you will see the Big Bang itself — when you point your telescope in any direction.

      See the problem?

      Our 360 degree field of vision, for close-by objects, would be less than 360 degrees for distant ones.

      We don’t see that.

      Distant objects would occupy a larger portion of the field of view, and would appear magnified.

      We don’t see that.

      That is the INVERSE of what we actually see.

      The Big Bang myth is the work of charlatans.

    • VirusGuard

      Big bang was a nice theory but it is full of holes, black magic known as black energy, black mass and scientists today are proving it wrong.

      In fact they are still not sure about red-shift in light and don’t know if the universe is exspanding faster or not.

      DNA says to me that we are living in a type of computer simulation because its computer code and our brains work like computers.

      Religions are jumping on DNA to say it proves a creater and this I agree with but thats not to say God was not a team of software developers or that he has a white beard and had anything to do with Jesus.

      • BEEFUS SUPREME

        Boy, this news is really going to upset Mayhem.
        Cause to that nit wit, No “Big Bang” means No god!!
        HAHAHAHAHAHA!

        But, “Theories’ are very much like “religion” in subject matter.

        NO facts, and lots of speculation and conjecture, wrapped up in the tight little “perception limitations” mental construct bundles, that humans are handicapped with from birth.

        Truth is Virus Guard, this reality is NO “computer simulation”.
        Not even close.
        Binary code does NOT construct this universe.
        So stop spreading your “mental construct” disease like some weird christ-OID does his FALSE “religious” mental construct.

        All will know it when it comes time to die!

        You “Love” idiots will ‘go to the light” and be deceived again.

        Only deception and trickery keep you “here” of your own free will.

        You can leave any time you want.

        And, “here” is an amusement park for the trillions upon trillions of pure energy form self-aware sentinel beings.

        Us.

        We do NOT reside “here” at all!

        Never have, never will.

        We exist in a “formless, timeless” void.

        We have NO physical body of any type.

        NO sight, no hearing, no touch, no body, no “reproduction”, no sensation, NO LIGHT to “see” with, none of what you “believe” will be “permanent” in any imagined after life.

        We identify one another by the unique “wave-length”, “osculation”, or “vibration” that our “self aware life form” exists at.

        We are “Pure formless energy” “Vibrating” at different and specific wave lengths for all of eternity.

        All of the above (sight, sound, light, time, etc.), and much more is why we come “here”.

        We experience none of the sensations and experiences gained “here” in our eternal pure energy form and home.

        All “roles” are played “here” by all who come “here”.

        We should be able to go from “Life form” to “Life form” “here” at our will.

        That is how we designed this universe to be, and it still is.

        But , the Light has robbed us of that ability, if you go to it first when you die.

        But YOU must regain your “eternal memories” for yourselves.

        I cannot help you.

        I do not care if any of you “believe’ me or not.

        But, I KNOW how wrong you are about nearly everything, and do not care to “discuss’ it with you.

        For ALL you do is “Believe”.

        And, it is all a lie.

        I have my eternal memories flooding back to me!

        I have NO DOUBT!

        The “big bang” creation crap is just that, pure crap.

        That many of you adhere to and “believe”, like your forefathers did to “the world is flat”.

        And, if “your” “heaven” involves some kind of ‘heavenly humanoid body”, then YOU ARE WRONG!

        Just as Pure Crap as the image of a “white-skinned” mangod is going to “make everything all better”, and all get to live forever in “Humanoid” bodies!
        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

        I mean hilarious in every way.

        So, BIN readers, ‘Believe On”, right into oblivion (where we reside, always).

        Because “your” belief in the ‘way things are” will not effect at all the way “things will be” for you.

        And me.

      • Mayhem

        I thought you were the big bang theorist? I’m for a Creator and how He did it we are not told.

    • sallyboy6

      Can Matter create Intelligence ? DNA proves to scientists that there is a creator no two are alike. So something or some one created everything now its up to you to decide God,Aliens, etc Big Bang theory is probably the most far fetched theory imaginable so it works for humans because of its confusion and inconclusions. Order out of chaos ?

    • crunchy74

      NO!!!! I DESPERATELY NEED TO EXPLAIN THINGS WITHOUT GOD…. SO THERE HAS TO BE A BIG BANG…. THIS IS MY RELIGION. I CANNOT ACCEPT GOD.. I HATE GOD… I DO NOT LIKE TO FOLLOW GOD… THEREFORE BIG BANG IS WHAT I NEED TO BELIEVE IN… NO MATTER WHAT THE EVIDENCE SAYS OR DOES NOT SAY.

      I NEED THE BIG BANG THEORY TO JUSTIFY MY CHOICES. PERIOD.

      • GUNNY

        At least you have honesty in your favor. Most enemies of the Most High would do anything rather than admit what you just plainly admitted to here.

        So there’s that.

    • Joshua24:15

      theoretical physicist: confined to theory or speculation often in contrast to practical applications

      Scientist love to speculate. Evolution is a good example. :cool:

    • CTrent33

      Of course there was no big bang. Read Genesis. That’s an account of the beginning.

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