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Scientists Vote 'The Earth IS Flat' - 'And Why!'

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So? Just what do we have here?………..Is everything you know wrong? Hmmm. After all, just what is real when future, unknown, technologies are being used on an unknowing populace that forever appear to be magical in a world full of illusions? Consider me ‘just the lawyer presenting the evidence to you. And you? You be the judge. Is the Antarctic ‘actually off limits’ to all of us common folk? What’s being protected within that 300 mile tropical land mass (or under that freezing ice, below, in those freezing waters), or being held at bay? Imagine, if you will, for a moment, if we lived within a tiny boxed in area that was surrounded by hundreds of miles of impassable ice to which on the other side resided the most largest alien masters / owners / reptilians / Annunaki, that one could think of? You be the judge, remember?
Sleep tight.
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Excerpt from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth The flat Earth model is an archaic conception of the Earth’s shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat Earth cosmography, including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India until the Gupta period (early centuries AD) and China until the 17th century. That paradigm was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas, and the notion of a flat Earth domed by the firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl is common in pre-scientific societies.
The idea of a spherical Earth appeared in Greek philosophy with Pythagoras (6th century BC), although most Pre-Socratics retained the flat Earth model. Aristotle accepted the spherical shape of the Earth on empirical grounds around 330 BC, and knowledge of the spherical Earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world from then on.
Since the 20th century the consensus among historians of science has been that medieval Europeans, with rare exception, put little confidence in a flat earth model. (end of excerpt).
Notice the last part, ‘ Since the 20th century the consensus among historians of science has been that medieval Europeans, with rare exception, put little confidence in a flat earth model.’ ”Little confidence?” A little. which would mean what? They’re ‘still’ not sure.

This would be a trailer to: Scientists Vote ‘The Earth IS Flat’ – ‘And Why!’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87cWH… It would also have to include:The UFO’s of Dead Mountain – Their Mystery Lives On – Dyatlov Pass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3GXs… Created for intrigue. I know it sounds crazy! BUT! Listen to what all forms of media, and people are realizing. The same picture of earth, taken from space, over and over, for decades, for the public to view? Why do we not have a webcam / spy cam on the moon aimed at Earth for a 24 hour view? Or any other planet? Are aliens out there ruling our world? Or are they ‘already here?’ How often does humanity change their mind about the earth being a globe, or flat, or about aliens, or about space, or about physics? Too frequent to count, and only because they’re still trying to figure it all out. The information is out there, the evidence is piling up. How much longer before the answers are too ‘in our faces’ to ignore? They’re here. Is the earth flat? o.0 This is a sneak peak into the next video that I’m working on. Yes, it’s a long video, and much thanks go out to the subscriber who suggested a wrap up short, such as this one. Stay tuned. :)
Who do you believe, and what do you believe?

Ancient Near East[edit]

The Jewish conception of a flat earth is found in biblical and post-biblical times.[7][8][9]

 

Imago Mundi Babylonian map, the oldest known world map, 6th century BC Babylonia.

In early Egyptian[10] and Mesopotamian thought the world was portrayed as a flat disk floating in the ocean. A similar model is found in the Homeric account of the 8th century BC in which “Okeanos, the personified body of water surrounding the circular surface of the Earth, is the begetter of all life and possibly of all gods.”[11] The Old Testament depiction of earth is as a flat disc floating on water beneath an arced firmament separating it from the heavens.[12]

The Pyramid Texts and Coffin Texts reveal that the ancient Egyptians believed Nun (the Ocean) was a circular body surrounding nbwt (a term meaning “dry lands” or “Islands”), and therefore believed in a similar Ancient Near Eastern circular earth cosmography surrounded by water.[13][14][15]

Ancient Mediterranean[edit]

Poets[edit]

Both Homer[16] and Hesiod[17] described a flat disc cosmography on the Shield of Achilles.[18][19] This poetic tradition of an earth-encircling (gaiaokhos) sea (Oceanus) and a flat disc also appears in Stasinus of Cyprus,[20]Mimnermus,[21]Aeschylus,[22] and Apollonius Rhodius.[23]

Homer’s description of the flat disc cosmography on the shield of Achilles with the encircling ocean is repeated far later in Quintus SmyrnaeusPosthomerica (4th century AD), which continues the narration of the Trojan War.[24]

Philosophers[edit]

 

Possible rendering of Anaximander’s world map[25]

Several pre-Socratic philosophers believed that the world was flat: Thales (c. 550 BC) according to several sources,[26] and Leucippus (c. 440 BC) and Democritus (c. 460 – 370 BC) according to Aristotle.[27][28][29]

Thales thought the earth floated in water like a log.[30] It has been argued, however, that Thales actually believed in a round Earth.[31][32]Anaximander (c. 550 BC) believed the Earth was a short cylinder with a flat, circular top that remained stable because it was the same distance from all things.[33][34]Anaximenes of Miletus believed that “the earth is flat and rides on air; in the same way the sun and the moon and the other heavenly bodies, which are all fiery, ride the air because of their flatness.”[35]Xenophanes of Colophon (c. 500 BC) thought that the Earth was flat, with its upper side touching the air, and the lower side extending without limit.[36]

Belief in a flat Earth continued into the 5th century BC. Anaxagoras (c. 450 BC) agreed that the Earth was flat,[37] and his pupil Archelaus believed that the flat Earth was depressed in the middle like a saucer, to allow for the fact that the Sun does not rise and set at the same time for everyone.[38]

Historians[edit]

Hecataeus of Miletus believed the earth was flat and surrounded by water.[39]Herodotus in his Histories ridiculed the belief that water encircled the world,[40] yet most classicists agree he still believed the earth was flat because of his descriptions of literal “ends” or “edges” of the earth.[41]

Ancient India[edit]

Ancient Jain[42] and Buddhist cosmology held that the Earth is a disc consisting of four continents grouped around a central mountain (Mount Meru) like the petals of a flower. An outer ocean surrounds these continents.[43] This view of traditional Buddhist and Jain cosmology depicts the cosmos as a vast, oceanic disk (of the magnitude of a small planetary system), bounded by mountains, in which the continents are set as small islands.[43]

Norse and Germanic[edit]

The ancient Norse and Germanic peoples believed in a flat earth cosmography of the earth surrounded by an ocean, with the axis mundi (a world-tree: Yggdrasil, or pillar: Irminsul) in the centre.[44][45] The Norse believed that in the world-encircling ocean sat a snake called Jormungandr.[46] In the Norse creation account preserved in Gylfaginning (VIII) it is stated that during the creation of the earth, an impassable sea was placed around the earth like a ring:

…And Jafnhárr said: “Of the blood, which ran and welled forth freely out of his wounds, they made the sea, when they had formed and made firm the earth together, and laid the sea in a ring round. about her; and it may well seem a hard thing to most men to cross over it.”[47]

The late Norse Konungs skuggsjá, on the other hand, states that:

…If you take a lighted candle and set it in a room, you may expect it to light up the entire interior, unless something should hinder, though the room be quite large. But if you take an apple and hang it close to the flame, so near that it is heated, the apple will darken nearly half the room or even more. However, if you hang the apple near the wall, it will not get hot; the candle will light up the whole house; and the shadow on the wall where the apple hangs will be scarcely half as large as the apple itself. From this you may infer that the earth-circle is round like a ball and not equally near the sun at every point. But where the curved surface lies nearest the sun’s path, there will the greatest heat be; and some of the lands that lie continuously under the unbroken rays cannot be inhabited.”[48]

Ancient China[edit]

Further information: Chinese astronomy

In ancient China, the prevailing belief was that the Earth was flat and square, while the heavens were round,[49] an assumption virtually unquestioned until the introduction of European astronomy in the 17th century.[50][51][52] The English sinologist Cullen emphasizes the point that there was no concept of a round Earth in ancient Chinese astronomy:

Chinese thought on the form of the earth remained almost unchanged from early times until the first contacts with modern science through the medium of Jesuit missionaries in the seventeenth century. While the heavens were variously described as being like an umbrella covering the earth (the Kai Tian theory), or like a sphere surrounding it (the Hun Tian theory), or as being without substance while the heavenly bodies float freely (the Hsüan yeh theory), the earth was at all times flat, although perhaps bulging up slightly.[53]

The model of an egg was often used by Chinese astronomers like Zhang Heng (78-139 AD) to describe the heavens as spherical:

The heavens are like a hen’s egg and as round as a crossbow bullet; the earth is like the yolk of the egg, and lies in the centre.[54]

This analogy with a curved egg led some modern historians, notably Joseph Needham, to conjecture that Chinese astronomers were, after all, aware of the Earth’s sphericity. The egg reference, however, was rather meant to clarify the relative position of the flat earth to the heavens:

In a passage of Zhang Heng’s cosmogony not translated by Needham, Zhang himself says: “Heaven takes its body from the Yang, so it is round and in motion. Earth takes its body from the Yin, so it is flat and quiescent”. The point of the egg analogy is simply to stress that the earth is completely enclosed by heaven, rather than merely covered from above as the Kai Tian describes. Chinese astronomers, many of them brilliant men by any standards, continued to think in flat-earth terms until the seventeenth century; this surprising fact might be the starting-point for a re-examination of the apparent facility with which the idea of a spherical earth found acceptance in fifth-century BC Greece.[55]

Further examples cited by Needham supposed to demonstrate dissenting voices from the ancient Chinese consensus actually refer without exception to the Earth being square, not to it being flat.[56] Accordingly, the 13th-century scholar Li Ye, who argued that the movements of the round heaven would be hindered by a square Earth,[49] did not advocate a spherical Earth, but rather that its edge should be rounded off so as to be circular.[57]

As noted in the book Huainanzi,[58] in the 2nd century BC Chinese astronomers effectively inverted Eratosthenes’ calculation of the curvature of the Earth to calculate the height of the sun above the earth. By assuming the earth was flat, they arrived at a distance of 100,000 li (approximately 200,000 km), a value far short of the correct distance of 150 million km.

Declining support for the flat earth[edit]

Further information: Spherical Earth and History of geodesy

Ancient Mediterranean[edit]

 

When a ship is at the horizon, its lower part is obscured due to the curvature of the Earth.

 

Semi-circular shadow of Earth on the Moonduring the phases of a lunar eclipse

In The Histories, written 431–425 BC, Herodotus cast doubt on a report of the sun observed shining from the north. He stated that the phenomenon was observed during a circumnavigation of Africaundertaken by Phoenician explorers employed by Egyptian pharaoh Necho II c. 610–595 BC (The Histories, 4.42) who claimed to have had the sun on their right when circumnavigating in a clockwise direction. To modern historians aware of a spherical Earth, these details confirm the truth of the Phoenicians’ report.

After the Greek philosophers Pythagoras, in the 6th century BC, and Parmenides, in the 5th, recognized that the Earth is spherical,[59] the spherical view spread rapidly in the Greek world. Around 330 BC,Aristotle maintained on the basis of physical theory and observational evidence that the Earth was spherical, and reported on an estimate on the circumference.[60] The Earth’s circumference was first determined around 240 BC by Eratosthenes.[61] By the second century CE, Ptolemy had derived his maps from a curved globe and developed the system of latitude, longitude, and climes. His Almagest was written in Greek and only translated into Latin in the 11th century from Arabic translations.

 

The Terrestrial Sphere of Crates of Mallus (c. 150 BC).

In the 2nd century BC, Crates of Mallus devised a terrestrial sphere that divided the Earth into four continents, separated by great rivers or oceans, with people presumed living in each of the four regions.[62] Opposite the oikumene, the inhabited world, were the antipodes, considered unreachable both because of an intervening torrid zone (equator) and the ocean. This took a strong hold on the medieval mind.

Lucretius (1st. c. BC) opposed the concept of a spherical Earth, because he considered that an infinite universe had no center towards which heavy bodies would tend. Thus, he thought the idea of animals walking around topsy-turvy under the Earth was absurd.[63][64] By the 1st century AD, Pliny the Elder was in a position to claim that everyone agrees on the spherical shape of Earth,[65] though disputes continued regarding the nature of the antipodes, and how it is possible to keep the ocean in a curved shape. Pliny also considered the possibility of an imperfect sphere, “…shaped like a pinecone.”[65]

In late antiquity such widely read encyclopedists as Macrobius (5th century) and Martianus Capella (5th century) discussed the circumference of the sphere of the Earth, its central position in the universe, the difference of theseasons in northern and southern hemispheres, and many other geographical details.[66] In his commentary on Cicero’s Dream of Scipio, Macrobius described the Earth as a globe of insignificant size in comparison to the remainder of the cosmos.[66]

Early Christian Church[edit]

During the early Church period, with some exceptions, most held a spherical view, for instance, Augustine, Jerome, and Ambrose to name a few.[67]

In Book III of The Divine Institutes[68]Lactantius ridicules the notion that there could be inhabitants of the antipodes “whose footsteps are higher than their heads.” After presenting some arguments he attributes to advocates for a spherical heaven and Earth, he writes:

But if you inquire from those who defend these marvellous fictions, why all things do not fall into that lower part of the heaven, they reply that such is the nature of things, that heavy bodies are borne to the middle, and that they are all joined together towards the middle, as we see spokes in a wheel; but that the bodies that are light, as mist, smoke, and fire, are borne away from the middle, so as to seek the heaven. I am at a loss what to say respecting those who, when they have once erred, consistently persevere in their folly, and defend one vain thing by another.

Saint Augustine (354–430) took a more cautious approach in arguing against assuming that people inhabited the antipodes:

But as to the fable that there are Antipodes, that is to say, men on the opposite side of the earth, where the sun rises when it sets to us, men who walk with their feet opposite ours that is on no ground credible. And, indeed, it is not affirmed that this has been learned by historical knowledge, but by scientific conjecture, on the ground that the earth is suspended within the concavity of the sky, and that it has as much room on the one side of it as on the other: hence they say that the part that is beneath must also be inhabited. But they do not remark that, although it be supposed or scientifically demonstrated that the world is of a round and spherical form, yet it does not follow that the other side of the earth is bare of water; nor even, though it be bare, does it immediately follow that it is peopled.[69]

Since these people would have to be descended from Adam, they would have had to travel to the other side of the Earth at some point; Augustine continues:

It is too absurd to say, that some men might have taken ship and traversed the whole wide ocean, and crossed from this side of the world to the other, and that thus even the inhabitants of that distant region are descended from that one first man.

Scholars of Augustine’s work have traditionally understood him to have shared the common view of his educated contemporaries that the Earth is spherical, in line with the quotation above, and with Augustine’s famous endorsement of science in De Genesi ad litteram.[70] That tradition has, however, recently been challenged by Leo Ferrari, who concluded that many of Augustine’s passing references to the physical universe imply a belief in an essentially flat Earth “at the bottom of the universe”.[71][72]

 

Cosmas Indicopleustes’ world picture – flat earth in a Tabernacle.

Diodorus of Tarsus (d. 394) may have argued for a flat Earth based on scriptures; however, Diodorus’ opinion on the matter is known to us only by a criticism of it by Photius.[73]Severian, Bishop of Gabala (d. 408), wrote that the Earth is flat and the sun does not pass under it in the night, but “travels through the northern parts as if hidden by a wall”.[74] The Egyptian monk Cosmas Indicopleustes (547) in his Topographia Christiana, where theCovenant Ark was meant to represent the whole universe, argued on theological grounds that the Earth was flat, a parallelogram enclosed by four oceans.

In his Homilies Concerning the Statutes[75] St. John Chrysostom (344–408) explicitly espoused the idea, based on his reading of Scripture, that the Earth floated on the waters gathered below the firmament, and St. Athanasius(c. 293 – 373) expressed similar views in Against the Heathen.[76]

At least one early Christian writer, Basil of Caesarea (329–379), believed that the matter was theologically irrelevant.[77]

Early Middle Ages[edit]

Early medieval Christian writers in the early Middle Ages felt little urge to assume flatness of the earth, though they had fuzzy impressions of the writings of Ptolemy, Aristotle, and relied more on Pliny.[78]

 

9th-century Macrobian cosmic diagram showing the sphere of the Earth at the center, (globus terrae)

With the end of Roman civilization, Western Europe entered the Middle Ages with great difficulties that affected the continent’s intellectual production. Most scientific treatises of classical antiquity (in Greek) were unavailable, leaving only simplified summaries and compilations. Still, many textbooks of the Early Middle Ages supported the sphericity of the Earth. For example: some early medieval manuscripts of Macrobius include maps of the Earth, including the antipodes, zonal maps showing the Ptolemaic climates derived from the concept of a spherical Earth and a diagram showing the Earth (labeled as globus terrae, the sphere of the Earth) at the center of the hierarchically ordered planetary spheres.[79] Further examples of such medieval diagrams can be found in medieval manuscripts of the Dream of Scipio. In the Carolingian era, scholars discussed Macrobius’s view of the antipodes. One of them, the Irish monk Dungal, asserted that the tropical gap between our habitable region and the other habitable region to the south was smaller than Macrobius had believed.[80]

 

12th-century T and O maprepresenting the inhabited world as described by Isidore of Seville in hisEtymologiae. (chapter 14, de terra et partibus).

Europe’s view of the shape of the Earth in Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages may be best expressed by the writings of early Christian scholars:

  • Boethius (c. 480 – 524), who also wrote a theological treatise On the Trinity, repeated the Macrobian model of the Earth in the center of a spherical cosmos in his influential, and widely translated, Consolation of Philosophy.[81]
  • Bishop Isidore of Seville (560 – 636) taught in his widely read encyclopedia, the Etymologies diverse views such as that the Earth “resembles a wheel”[82] resembling Anaximander in language and the map that he provided. This was widely interpreted as referring to a flat disc-shaped Earth.[83][84] An illustration from Isidore’s De Natura Rerum shows the five zones of the earth as adjacent circles. Some have concluded that he thought the Arctic and Antarctic zones were adjacent to each other.[85] He did not admit the possibility of antipodes, which he took to mean people dwelling on the opposite side of the Earth, considering them legendary [86] and noting that there was no evidence for their existence.[87] Isidore’s T and O map, which was seen as representing a small part of a spherical Earth, continued to be used by authors through the Middle Ages, e.g. the 9th-century bishop Rabanus Maurus who compared the habitable part of the northern hemisphere (Aristotle‘s northern temperate clime) with a wheel. At the same time, Isidore’s works also gave the views of sphericity, for example, in chapter 28 of De Natura Rerum, Isidore claims that the sun orbits the earth and illuminates the other side when it is night on this side. See French translation of De Natura Rerum.[88] In his other work Etymologies, there are also affirmations that the sphere of the sky has earth in its center and the sky being equally distant on all sides.[89][90] Other researchers have argued these points as well.[78][91][92] “The work remained unsurpassed until the thirteenth century and was regarded as the summit of all knowledge. It became an essential part of European medieval culture. Soon after the invention of typography it appeared many times in print.”[93] However, “The Scholastics – later medieval philosophers, theologians, and scientists – were helped by the Arabic translators and commentaries, but they hardly needed to struggle against a flat-earth legacy from the early middle ages (500-1050). Early medieval writers often had fuzzy and imprecise impressions of both Ptolemy and Aristotle and relied more on Pliny, but they felt (with one exception), little urge to assume flatness.” [78]

 

Isidore’s portrayal of the five zones of the earth

  • The monk Bede (c. 672 – 735) wrote in his influential treatise on computus, The Reckoning of Time, that the Earth was round (‘not merely circular like a shield [or] spread out like a wheel, but resembl[ing] more a ball’), explaining the unequal length of daylight from “the roundness of the Earth, for not without reason is it called ‘the orb of the world’ on the pages of Holy Scripture and of ordinary literature. It is, in fact, set like a sphere in the middle of the whole universe.” (De temporum ratione, 32). The large number of surviving manuscripts of The Reckoning of Time, copied to meet the Carolingian requirement that all priests should study the computus, indicates that many, if not most, priests were exposed to the idea of the sphericity of the Earth.[94]Ælfric of Eynsham paraphrased Bede into Old English, saying “Now the Earth’s roundness and the Sun’s orbit constitute the obstacle to the day’s being equally long in every land.”[95]
  • St Vergilius of Salzburg (c. 700 – 784), in the middle of the 8th century, discussed or taught some geographical or cosmographical ideas that St Boniface found sufficiently objectionable that he complained about them toPope Zachary. The only surviving record of the incident is contained in Zachary’s reply, dated 748, where he wrote:

“As for the perverse and sinful doctrine which he (Virgil) against God and his own soul has uttered—if it shall be clearly established that he professes belief in another world and other men existing beneath the earth, or in (another) sun and moon there, thou art to hold a council, deprive him of his sacerdotal rank, and expel him from the Church.”[96]

Some authorities have suggested that the sphericity of the Earth was among the aspects of Vergilius’s teachings that Boniface and Zachary considered objectionable.[97][98] Others have considered this unlikely, and take the wording of Zachary’s response to indicate at most an objection to belief in the existence of humans living in the antipodes.[99][100][101][102][103] In any case, there is no record of any further action having been taken against Vergilius. He was later appointed bishop of Salzburg, and was canonised in the 13th century.[104]

 

12th-century depiction of a spherical Earth with the four seasons (book “Liber Divinorum Operum” by Hildegard of Bingen)

A possible non-literary but graphic indication that people in the Middle Ages believed that the Earth (or perhaps the world) was a sphere, is the use of the orb (globus cruciger) in the regalia of many kingdoms and of the Holy Roman Empire. It is attested from the time of the Christian late-Roman emperor Theodosius II (423) throughout the Middle Ages; the Reichsapfel was used in 1191 at the coronation of emperor Henry VI. However the word ‘orbis’ means ‘circle’ and there is no record of a globe as a representation of the Earth since ancient times in the west till that of Martin Behaim in 1492. Additionally it could well be a representation of the entire ‘world’ orcosmos.

A recent study of medieval concepts of the sphericity of the Earth noted that “since the eighth century, no cosmographer worthy of note has called into question the sphericity of the Earth.”[105] However, the work of these intellectuals may not have had significant influence on public opinion, and it is difficult to tell what the wider population may have thought of the shape of the Earth, if they considered the question at all.

High and Late Middle Ages[edit]

 

Picture from a 1550 edition of On the Sphere of the World, the most influential astronomy textbook of 13th-century Europe.

By the 11th century Europe had learned of Islamic astronomy. The Renaissance of the 12th century from about 1070 started an intellectual revitalization of Europe with strongphilosophical and scientific roots, and increased interest in natural philosophy.

 

Illustration of the spherical Earth in a 14th-century copy ofL’Image du monde (c. 1246).

Hermannus Contractus (1013–1054) was among the earliest Christian scholars to estimate the circumference of Earth with Eratosthenes‘ method. Thomas Aquinas (1225–1274), the most important and widely taught theologian of the Middle Ages, believed in a spherical Earth; and he even took for granted his readers also knew the Earth is round.[nb 1] Lectures in themedieval universities commonly advanced evidence in favor of the idea that the Earth was a sphere.[106] Also, “On the Sphere of the World“, the most influential astronomy textbook of the 13th century and required reading by students in all Western European universities, described the world as a sphere. Thomas Aquinas, in his Summa Theologica, wrote, “The physicist proves the earth to be round by one means, the astronomer by another: for the latter proves this by means of mathematics, e.g. by the shapes of eclipses, or something of the sort; while the former proves it by means of physics, e.g. by the movement of heavy bodies towards the center, and so forth.”[107]

The shape of the Earth was not only discussed in scholarly works written in Latin; it was also treated in works written in vernacular languages or dialects and intended for wider audiences. The Norwegian book Konungs Skuggsjá, from around 1250, states clearly that the Earth is round—and that there is night on the opposite side of the Earth when there is daytime in Norway. The author also discusses the existence of antipodes—and he notes that (if they exist) they see the Sun in the north of the middle of the day, and that they experience seasons opposite those of people in the Northern Hemisphere.

However Tattersall shows that in many vernacular works in 12th- and 13th-century French texts the Earth was considered “round like a table” rather than “round like an apple”. “In virtually all the examples quoted…from epics and from non-’historical’ romances (that is, works of a less learned character) the actual form of words used suggests strongly a circle rather than a sphere, though notes that even in these works the language is ambiguous.[108]

As late as 1674, Robert Hooke could argue “To one who has been conversant only with illiterate persons, or such as understand not the principles of Astronomy and Geometry,…who can scarce imagine the Earth is globous, but…imagine it to be a round plain covered with the Sky as with a Hemisphere”, suggesting that the opinion was not uncommon even then.[109]

Portuguese exploration of Africa and Asia, Columbus’s voyage to the Americas (1492) and finally Ferdinand Magellan‘s circumnavigation of the Earth (1519–21) provided the final, practical proofs for the global shape of the Earth.

Islamic world[edit]

The Abbasid Caliphate saw a great flowering of astronomy and mathematics in the 9th century CE. in which Muslim scholars translated Ptolemy’s work, which become the Almagest, and extended and updated his work based on spherical ideas, and these have generally been respected since. However after the decline of the Golden Age in the 13th century more traditional views were increasingly heard.

The Quran mentions that the world was “laid out”. To this a classic Sunni commentary, the Tafsir al-Kabir (al-Razi) written in the late 12th century says “If it is said: Do the words “And the earth We spread out” indicate that it is flat? We would respond: Yes, because the earth, even though it is round, is an enormous sphere, and each little part of this enormous sphere, when it is looked at, appears to be flat. As that is the case, this will dispel what they mentioned of confusion. The evidence for that is the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And the mountains as pegs” [an-Naba’ 78:7]. He called them awtaad (pegs) even though these mountains may have large flat surfaces. And the same is true in this case.”[110]

A later classic Sunni commentary, the Tafsir al-Jalalayn written in the early 16th century says “As for His words sutihat, ‘laid out flat’, this on a literal reading suggests that the earth is flat, which is the opinion of most of the scholars of the [revealed] Law, and not a sphere as astronomers (ahl al-hay’a) have it, even if this [latter] does not contradict any of the pillars of the Law.”[111] Other translations render “made flat” as “spread out”.[112]

Ming China[edit]

As late as 1595, an early Jesuit missionary to China, Matteo Ricci, recorded that the Chinese say: “The earth is flat and square, and the sky is a round canopy; they did not succeed in conceiving the possibility of the antipodes.”[57][113] The universal belief in a flat Earth is confirmed by a contemporary Chinese encyclopedia from 1609 illustrating a flat Earth extending over the horizontal diametral plane of a spherical heaven.[57]

In the 17th century, the idea of a spherical Earth spread in China due to the influence of the Jesuits, who held high positions as astronomers at the imperial court.[114]

Modern period[edit]

“Myth of the Flat Earth” in modern historiography[edit]

 

Martin Behaim‘s Erdapfel, the oldest surviving terrestrial globe and finished before the news of the discovery of the Americas had reached Europe (1492), demonstrates that knowledge of the round Earth was common on the continent before.

During the 19th century, the Romantic conception of a European “Dark Age” gave much more prominence to Flat Earth beliefs than was historically warranted.

In 1945 the Historical Association listed “Columbus and the Flat Earth Conception” second of twenty in its first-published pamphlet on common errors in history.[115] This belief is even repeated in some widely read textbooks. Previous editions of Thomas Bailey’s The American Pageant stated that “The superstitious sailors [of Columbus' crew]  … grew increasingly mutinous…because they were fearful of sailing over the edge of the world”; however, no such historical account is known.[116] Actually, sailors were probably among the first to know of the curvature of Earth from everyday observations, for example seeing how mountains vanish below the horizon on sailing far from shore.

Some historians consider that the early advocates who projected flat Earth upon Christians of the Middle Ages were highly influential (19th-century view typified by Andrew Dickson White); current historians (late 20th-century view typified by historian and religious studies scholar Jeffrey Burton Russell)[6] have asserted that White’s and other writings projecting flat Earth belief upon Christians are inaccurate, citing centuries of theological writings, and suggested the motivations for the promotion of such inaccuracies.

According to Russell,[117] the common misconception that people before the age of exploration believed that Earth was flat entered the popular imagination after Washington Irving‘s publication of A History of the Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus in 1828.[118] Although some of the arguments attributed by Irving to Columbus’s opponents had been recorded not long after the latter’s death, here are only hints that any argued that the Earth was flat, in the argument that the ocean might be infinite in extent, repeated by later historians.[119] Other arguments were based on the impossibility of the antipodes, the vast size of the Earth, the impossibility of going from one hemisphere to the others, and other arguments based on the sphericity of the Earth.[120] Modern historians have dismissed the claim that they maintained the earth was flat as a fabrication of Irving’s.[121][122][123][124]

The only denial published at the time came from Zacharia Lilio, a canon of the Basilica of St. John Lateran in Rome in 1496. In a section entitled “That the earth is not round” he argues that “when they assert that the earth is round, Ptolemy and Pliny do not add to the evidence, collected on the spot, they simply make a conjecture based solely on reasoning”.[125]Copernicus, writing only twenty years after Columbus in 1514, dismisses the idea of a flat Earth in two sentences and cites supporters only from antiquity, though he expends more effort on showing that other current ideas were fallacious and demonstrating the sphericity of the earth.[126] In reality, the issue in the 1490s was not the shape but the size of the Earth, as well as the position of the east coast of Asia.

Modern Flat-Earthers[edit]

 

Flat Earth map drawn by Orlando Ferguson in 1893. The map contains several references to biblical passages as well as various jabs at the “Globe Theory”.

In the modern era, belief in a flat Earth has been expressed by isolated individuals and groups, but no scientists of note.

English writer Samuel Rowbotham (1816–1885), writing under the pseudonym “Parallax,” produced a pamphlet called Zetetic Astronomy in 1849 arguing for a flat Earth and published results of many experiments that tested the curvatures of water over a long drainage ditch, followed by another called The inconsistency of Modern Astronomy and its Opposition to the Scripture. One of his supporters, John Hampden, lost a bet to Alfred Russel Wallace in the famous Bedford Level Experiment, which attempted to prove it. In 1877 Hampden produced a book called “A New Manual of Biblical Cosmography”.[127] Rowbotham also produced studies that purported to show that the effects of ships disappearing below the horizon could be explained by the laws of perspective in relation to the human eye.[128]

In 1883 he founded Zetetic Societies in England and New York, to which he shipped a thousand copies of Zetetic Astronomy. Challenges were issued in the New York Daily Graphic offering $10,000 to charity to anyone proving the Earth revolved on an axis.

William Carpenter, a printer originally from Greenwich, England, was a supporter of Rowbotham and published Theoretical Astronomy Examined and Exposed – Proving the Earth not a Globe in eight parts from 1864 under the name Common Sense.[129] He later emigrated to Baltimore where he published A hundred proofs the Earth is not a Globe in 1885.[130] He argues that:

  • “There are rivers that flow for hundreds of miles towards the level of the sea without falling more than a few feet — notably, the Nile, which, in a thousand miles, falls but a foot. A level expanse of this extent is quite incompatible with the idea of the Earth’s convexity. It is, therefore, a reasonable proof that Earth is not a globe.”
  • “If the Earth were a globe, a small model globe would be the very best — because the truest — thing for the navigator to take to sea with him. But such a thing as that is not known: with such a toy as a guide, the mariner would wreck his ship, of a certainty!, This is a proof that Earth is not a globe.”

John Jasper, the black ex-slave preacher said to have preached to more people than any Southern clergyman of his generation, echoed his friend Carpenter’s sentiments in his most famous sermon “Der Sun do move and the Earth Am Square”, preached over 250 times always by invitation.[131]

In Brockport, N.Y, in 1887, M.C. Flanders argued the case of a flat Earth for three nights against two scientific gentlemen defending sphericity. Five townsmen chosen as judges voted unanimously for a flat Earth at the end. The case was reported in the Brockport Democrat.[132]

“Professor” Joseph W. Holden of Maine, a former justice of the peace, gave numerous lectures in New England and lectured on flat Earth theory at the Columbian Exposition in Chicago. His fame stretched to North Carolina where the Statesville Semi-weekly Landmark recorded at his death in 1900: ‘We hold to the doctrine that the earth is flat ourselves and we regret exceedingly to learn that one of our members is dead’.[133]

After Rowbotham’s death, Lady Elizabeth Blount created the Universal Zetetic Society in 1893 in England and created a journal called Earth not a Globe Review, which sold for twopence, as well as one called Earth, which only lasted from 1901 to 1904. She held that the Bible was the unquestionable authority on the natural world and argued that one could not be a Christian and believe the Earth is a globe. Well-known members included E. W. Bullinger of the Trinitarian Bible Society, Edward Haughton, senior moderator in natural science in Trinity College, Dublin and an archbishop. She repeated Rowbotham’s experiments, generating some interesting counter-experiments, but interest declined after the First World War.[133] The movement gave rise to several books that argued for a flat, stationary earth, including Terra Firma by David Wardlaw Scott.[134]

In 1898, during his solo circumnavigation of the world, Joshua Slocum encountered a group of flat-Earthers in Durban. Three Boers, one of them a clergyman, presented Slocum with a pamphlet in which they set out to prove that the world was flat. Paul Kruger, President of the Transvaal Republic, advanced the same view: “You don’t mean round the world, it is impossible! You mean in the world. Impossible!”[135]

Wilbur Glenn Voliva, who in 1906 took over the Christian Catholic Church, a Pentecostal sect that established a utopian community at Zion, Illinois, preached flat Earth doctrine from 1915 onwards and used a photograph of a twelve-mile stretch of the shoreline atLake Winnebago, Wisconsin taken three feet above the waterline to prove his point. When the airship Italia disappeared on an expedition to the North Pole in 1928 he warned the world’s press that it had sailed over the edge of the world. He offered a $5,000 award for proving the Earth is not flat, under his own conditions.[136] Teaching a globular Earth was banned in the Zion schools and the message was transmitted on his WCBD radio station.[133]

Mohammed Yusuf, founder of the Nigerian militant Islamist group Boko Haram, stated his belief in a flat Earth.[137]

Flat Earth Society[edit]

 

This flat Earth model depicts Antarctica as an ice wall[138][139]surrounding a disk-shaped Earth.

In 1956, Samuel Shenton set up the International Flat Earth Research Society (IFERS), better known as the Flat Earth Society from Dover, Britain, as a direct descendant of the Universal Zetetic Society. This was just before the Soviet Union launched the first artificial satellite, Sputnik; he responded, “Would sailing round the Isle of Wight prove that it were spherical? It is just the same for those satellites.”

His primary aim was to reach children before they were convinced about a spherical Earth. Despite plenty of publicity, the space race eroded Shenton’s support in Britain until 1967 when he started to become famous due to theApollo program. His postbag was full but his health suffered as his operation remained essentially a one-man show until he died in 1971.[133]

In 1972 Shenton’s role was taken over by one of his correspondents from California, Charles K. Johnson. He incorporated the IFERS and steadily built up the membership to about 3,000. He spent years examining the studies of flat and round Earth theories and proposed evidence of a conspiracy against flat-Earth: “The idea of a spinning globe is only a conspiracy of error that Moses, Columbus, and FDR all fought…” His article was published in the magazine Science Digest, 1980. It goes on to state, “If it is a sphere, the surface of a large body of water must be curved. The Johnsons have checked the surfaces of Lake Tahoe and the Salton Sea without detecting any curvature.”[140]

The Society declined in the 1990s following a fire at its headquarters in California and the death of Johnson in 2001.[141] It was revived as a website in 2004 by Daniel Shenton (no relation to Samuel Shenton). He believes that no one has provided proof that the world is not flat.[142]

Cultural references[edit]

The notion of a flat Earth survives in a wide range of contexts. Indirect references to the theory include the widely used idiom the four corners of the earth. The term “flat-Earther” is often used in a derogatory sense to mean anyone who holds ridiculously antiquated views.

The first use of the term flat-earther recorded by the Oxford English Dictionary is in 1934 in Punch: “Without being a bigoted flat-earther, he [sc. Mercator] perceived the nuisance..of fiddling about with globes..in order to discover the South Seas.”[143] The term flat-earth-man was recorded in 1908: “Fewer votes than one would have thought possible for any human candidate, were he even a flat-earth-man.”[144]

An early mention in literature was Ludvig Holberg‘s comedy Erasmus Montanus (1723). Erasmus Montanus meets considerable opposition when he claims the Earth is round, since all the peasants believe it is flat. He is not allowed to marry his fiancée until he cries, “The earth is flat as a pancake.” In Rudyard Kipling‘s The Village that Voted the Earth was Flat, the protagonists spread the rumor that a Parish Council meeting had voted in favor of a flat Earth.

Scientific satire[edit]

In a satirical piece published 1996, Albert A. Bartlett uses arithmetic to show that sustainable growth on Earth is impossible in a spherical Earth since its resources are necessarily finite. He explains that only a model of a flat Earth, stretching infinitely in the two horizontal dimensions and also in the vertical downward direction, would be able to accommodate the needs of a permanently growing population.

Referring to Julian Simon‘s book The Ultimate Resource, Bartlett suggests “So, let us think of the “We’re going to grow the limits!” people as the “New Flat Earth Society.””[145] The satiric nature of the piece is also made clear by a comparison to Bartlett’s other publications, which mainly advocate the necessity of curbing population growth.[146]

 

SOURCE: Dan Flynn



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    • Guntherian

      ja welll, what a load of tripe, my ancestors tried to sail off the edge, and they just went round and round, and now im in bloody afrika, not somewhere off the edge, flat earthers huh? it must be the days of lot,. where there where cults of people who had funny ideas… reallly dodgy and “funny” ideas, not funny haha, but funny “put them to death because they are utterly insane funny” right, i for one know the earth is round, AND hollow, cool stuff inside that for sure. the garden on Eden is IN the earth, hypocythonic me, and well, inside the earth the sky is round and not flat. ROOOOOOOOOOOOOUND. hast thou never been in an airplane??? are not all the moons and planets and stars all fekkin round? ooo no, we must be different, sure on a metaphysical scale, you can liken us to pink worms in a snowglobe, and that there snowglobe is due fer a shakin. i cannot wait to come across flat earth cults in the after world, hilarious stuff hey, its going to be just like fallout the game, siiigh, im so happy,
      and well, if the earth was flat i would not be alive,. cause me fathers would have never had children, cause they would have sailed off aqnd been dead or in another world, but im not in another world, im HERE, THEREFORE THE EARTH IS ROUUUUUND. ya dingbats

      • No time

        Every thing they told you in school is true, first there was a big bang, then a monkey gave birth to you, now your spinning on a floating ball faster than the speed of sound.

        • Guntherian

          no you dingbat, we on the most pimped out self sustaining spaceship ever, the sun shoots ahead a a chronic pace with the planets trailin behind in a sweet ass spiral, we on the way somewhere pally and i dont think you will like it, but anyhoo our spaceship goes thusly,

          its just the spaceships crew gone mad, dark elves slipped in, took over, now the cyth run the show, xD o well dont worry, correction crews are here already, just wiating for the gjallar horn to blow.

          the spaceship goes thusly

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU

          which is a lot cooler than some flat earth crap, mad cults popping up everywhere

    • AmbrociousXP

      Your all quacks! The Earth is CLEARLY shaped like a square!

      • ElOregonian

        This is silly. Just go outside and look up to the moon. Notice that it is round? spherical? Does it look flat? Now if you are fortunate to own/ or get to look thru a decent telescope. Tell me when you look at the planets, tell me do they look flat?

        Come on people, use your grey matter that sits behind your eyeballs.

        • Theron

          The moon is a concave half sphere facing us, that is why it rings like a bell.
          The entire known universe is an inverted sphere 8000 miles across, we are INSIDE THE EARTH.
          Light bends.
          We aren’t moving.
          The coriolis effect is from spinning aether.
          You have been lied to.
          Look here. :wink: :idea:
          https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/hollow/morrow.htm

        • Anonymous

          Hold a frisbee over your head. Does it look round like your moon? Could be that is all you are seeing since you have never seen the other side.

    • MileHiLife

      or…our “reality” is but an illusion.

      • AnyOne

        Reality is an illusion. Energy/sound waves constitutes matter. Humans convert waves into matter. Each human is a parrallel universe overlapping each other in time/space. No two experiences or time stamps are exact, it is continuous and always now. Therefore all possibilities exist…. a flat Earth, a round Earth, a hollow Earth. EOD!

    • Victoria Maria-Theresa Valois

      Yeah right. Earth is hollow & we are INSIDE, folks.

    • Eagle Scout

      Looks pretty round in that map. And flat.

      From where I am I see hills and a sky. I guess when I go up in to space, and see for myself, I’ll be an authority on the subject.

    • unidentified

      it’s amazing to me that “today” we do not all agree is this planet flat round or something else.
      I dont have a problem with either scenario but the fact that we still discuss it concerns me a lot about our ‘educational system’ and the honesty of todays ‘scientists’ and educators

    • TEXASPROUD

      And of course they use only the most “intelligent” life forms to make this video. I’ts time to stop toying around with your life. We are in the last of last days and the Lord will pass judgment on the USA very soon. If you haven’t trusted in Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, PLEASE do it now… Invite him into your heart and repent of your sins. He will forgive you. We are marching towards destruction; the legalization of same sex marriage sealed out fate, and judgment is coming soon. We have been told that we have 500 days until climate chaos… Day 500 ends on Sepember 23, 2015.. also CERN will fire up again on September 23, 2015.which is also the Jewish Date of Atonement, plus we are in a Shemitah year also in Jubilee…The Pope is also going to address congress in the USA on September 23, 2015…The last blood moon is on September 28, 2015. The Lord is coming to pass judgment; don’t be caught without him in your heart.. God LOVES you.

    • Bad-Clown
    • An Observer

      “Notice the last part, ‘ Since the 20th century the consensus among historians of science has been that medieval Europeans, with rare exception, put little confidence in a flat earth model.’ ”Little confidence?” A little. which would mean what? They’re ‘still’ not sure.”

      No. They’re saying, that since the 20th century, we’ve noticed that even in medieval times people didn’t REALLY think earth was flat, it was just a general idea, because no one could think of anything else.

      “Why do we not have a webcam / spy cam on the moon aimed at Earth for a 24 hour view?”

      We do, it’s an HD camera streaming from the ISS. There are several, on additional satellites I believe as well.

      The earth rotates around, revealing continents and oceans on one side, then after continuing to rotate, different continents and oceans on a different sides. Until it rotates all the way around, and you see the first side again.

      A lot like a sphere floating in space. Because it is. Not flat, but round. So many people have flown or sailed around the world, some even just for fun, even if you don’t include the space evidence, there’s just no way for the earth to be flat.

      • The Clucker

        You’re making too much sense. The flat earthers will simply have to ignore your points to prop their theory up once again.

        BTW you are a genius for adding a mustache to the stock BIN avatar. Bravo, sir.

        ~The Mightiest Clucker

      • Eagle Scout

        That’s assuming that’s actually a live feed. And there’s actually a space station up there. But we can trust NASA to tell us the truth, right? They keep lying to Lyn Leahz, so they must be telling the rest of us the truth.

        Right?

      • TuffENuff

        I’m not pro flat earth, I’m just intrigued by the whole concept for the simple fact it appears we have been lied to about everything else under the sun so why not this too, and it forces you to step away from your indoctrination and try to imagine an alternative viewpoint. Even if it’s all BS, it’s still good exercise for the mind.

        So with your “sailing around the world” argument, you can sail around the world so long as you follow a horizontal course. You can’t sail north/south longitudinally around the world because of the poles, so it’s quite possible they could be sailing on a flat disk, like running your finger around the edge of a dinner plate. Every photo we have seen of earth from space has no stars in it and there is no proof they are even real. ‘Splain that, Lucy.

      • Theron

        I’ve seen better CGI on Star Trek than the “live feed”
        It looks like it was done by college students.

    • DTS & Associates

      I submit as food for thought then that a subset of scientists are exceptionally stupid.
      Thank you for playing.

      • Man

        you mean creationist scientists?

      • Man

        you mean creationst scientists?

        • i am David

          Do you know “the muffin” Man ?

          • Man

            No i don’t deal with male escorts

          • 2QIK4U

            The muffin man can

    • FusedNail

      Your imaginary scientists ‘voted’ this because they are all douchebag Progressives who believe anything different must be true.

    • srsly1

      I admit, I didn’t waste too much time reading all this, but…..

      If the earth is flat, how do you explain timezones? How does the sun only shine on part of a flat plane?

    • HORUS

      There’s brainwashing and brainwashing – do any of you have some sort of intelligent (& educated) people around you?? Guess not.

    • tempestking

      look we all no that the earth is round ok and what the stupid scientists should all be doing is looking for a cure for cancer or things like that and not spending time depating if the earth is round or flat END OF

    • Andoron

      For those who believe this story, I have wonderful beach property in Siberia I’d love to sell you.

      • Big dog.../small fish...

        Is it at the EDGE of the FLAT EARTH??? If it is forget it! With one earthquake, my house could fall off the face of the earth!!!

    • Cain

      I JUST CANT WAIT TO BE KING!!! nOt! wHaT tHe hElLs iS wRoNg WiTh yOu pEoPlE.

      Once upon a time God. Then once upon a time Man. Then once upon a time Man Dead. Then Once Upon a time God again.

      none of you know where you are. Where is the north start?

      I moved it over my head. I dont wear a crown, the planets are my crown. I just made the geometry of tonight.

      oh no! some dust in my eye! this is the Worst!

    • Eggzactly

      I voted and ruled it isnt Flat. I Win!

    • Eggzactly

      The earth is shaped like a pyramid! Here’s why. The pyramids in Egypt are its ween and the 2 boys under it! It has to be, what else could it be and scientist will prove it! :wink:

    • Mark

      A total and complete BS… :lol: :lol: :lol:

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