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Discovery Of Noah's Ark: The New Evidence

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This program presents evidence that explorers have found the final resting place of a ship that may be Noah’s Ark as described in the Bible and the Book of Genesis. Includes photos, video, physical evidence and interviews with researchers, and the best-known authorities on “Noah’s Ark” in the world today.

 

 

 

 

Noah or Noé or Noach, (Hebrew: נֹחַ,‎ נוֹחַ, Modern Noaẖ Tiberian Nōăḥ; Arabic: نُوح‎ Nūḥ; Ancient Greek: Νῶε) was the tenth and last of the antediluvian Patriarchs. The story of Noah and the Ark is told in the Genesis flood narrative, and also told in Sura 71 of the Quran. The Biblical account is followed by the story of the Curse of Ham. Outside Genesis his name is mentioned in Ezekiel, Isaiah and Chronicles. He was the subject of much elaboration in later Abrahamic traditions, including the Qur’an. 

Noah was the tenth of the pre-Flood Patriarchs. His father Lamech named him nûaḥ (the final ḥ is a more guttural sound than the English h), saying, “This same shall comfort us in our work and in the toil of our hands, which cometh from the ground which the LORD hath cursed. This connects the future patriarch’s name with nāḥam, “comfort”, but it seems better related to the word nûaḥ, meaning “rest”, and is more a play on words than a true etymology. 

In his five hundredth year Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth. In his six hundredth year God, saddened at the wickedness of mankind, sent a great deluge to destroy all life, but because Noah was “righteous in his generation” God instructed him to build an ark and save a remnant of life. After the Flood Noah offered a sacrifice and entered into a covenant with God regulating the shedding of blood (i.e., mankind’s permission to kill under regulated circumstances). As a sign and witness of this covenant, the rainbow was adopted and set apart by God as a sure pledge that never again would the earth be destroyed by a flood. (Genesis 9:12 – 15) After this, Noah became an Husbandman, “the first tiller of the soil”, and he planted a vineyard: and he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and was uncovered within his tent. Noah’s son Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his brethren and Noah cursed Ham’s son Canaan. 

Noah died 350 years after the Flood, at the age of 950, the last of the immensely long-lived antediluvian Patriarchs. The maximum human lifespan, as depicted by the Bible, diminishes rapidly thereafter, from almost 1,000 years to the 120 years of Moses. 

 

Noah in Enoch 

In 10:1-3 of the book of Enoch, the Archangel Uriel is dispatched by God to inform Noah of the approaching flood.

 

Ark Dimensions

In Europe, the Renaissance saw much speculation on the nature of the ark that might have seemed familiar to early theologians such as Origen and Augustine. At the same time, however, a new class of scholarship arose, one which, while never questioning the literal truth of the Ark story, began to speculate on the practical workings of Noah’s vessel from within a purely naturalistic framework. In the 15th century, Alfonso Tostada gave a detailed account of the logistics of the ark, down to arrangements for the disposal of dung and the circulation of fresh air. The 16th-century geometrician Johannes Buteo calculated the ship’s internal dimensions, allowing room for Noah’s grinding mills and smokeless ovens, a model widely adopted by other commentators. 

Various editions of the Encyclopædia Britannica reflect the collapse of belief in the historicity of the ark in the face of advancing scientific knowledge. Its 1771 edition offered the following as scientific evidence for the ark’s size and capacity: “…Buteo and Kircher have proved geometrically, that, taking the common cubit as a foot and a half, the ark was abundantly sufficient for all the animals supposed to be lodged in it…the number of species of animals will be found much less than is generally imagined, not amounting to a hundred species of quadrupeds”. By the eighth edition (1853–1860), the encyclopedia said of the Noah story, “The insuperable difficulties connected with the belief that all other existing species of animals were provided for in the ark are obviated by adopting the suggestion of Bishop Stillingfleet, approved by Matthew Poole…and others, that the Deluge did not extend beyond the region of the Earth then inhabited”. By the ninth edition, in 1875, no attempt was made to reconcile the Noah story with scientific fact, and it was presented without comment. In the 1960 edition, the article on the ark stated that “Before the days of ‘higher criticism’ and the rise of the modern scientific views as to the origin of the species, there was much discussion among the learned, and many ingenious and curious theories were advanced, as to the number of animals on the ark

 

A Jewish depiction of Noah

 

The righteousness of Noah is the subject of much discussion among the rabbis.[19] The description of Noah as “righteous in his generation” implied to some that his perfection was only relative: In his generation of wicked people, he could be considered righteous, but in the generation of a tzadik like Abraham, he would not be considered so righteous. They point out that Noah did not pray to God on behalf of those about to be destroyed, as Abraham prayed for the wicked of Sodom and Gomorrah. In fact, Noah is never seen to speak; he simply listens to God and acts on his orders. 

 

 

This led such commentators to offer the figure of Noah as “the man in a fur coat,” who ensured his own comfort while ignoring his neighbour. Others, such as the medieval commentator Rashi, held on the contrary that the building of the Ark was stretched over 120 years, deliberately in order to give sinners time to repent. Rashi interprets his father’s statement of the naming of Noah (in Hebrew נֹחַ) “This one will comfort (in Hebrew– yeNaHamainu יְנַחֲמֵנו) from our work and our hands sore from the land that the Lord had cursed”,[20] by saying Noah heralded a new era of prosperity, when there was easing (in Hebrew – nahah – נחה) from the curse from the time of Adam when the Earth produced thorns and thistles even where men sowed wheat and that Noah then introduced the plow.

 

Christianity

 

An early Christian depiction showing Noah giving the gesture of orant as the dove returns

 

According to 2 Peter 2:5, Noah is considered a “preacher of righteousness”. Of the Gospels in the New Testament, the Gospel of Luke compares Noah’s Flood with the coming Day of Judgement: “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so too it will be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man.” 

 

An early Christian depiction showing Noah giving the gesture of orant as the dove returns

The First Epistle of Peter compares the saving power of baptism with the Ark saving those who were in it. In later Christian thought, the Ark came to be compared to the Church: salvation was to be found only within Christ and his Lordship, as in Noah’s time it had been found only within the Ark. St Augustine of Hippo (354–430), demonstrated in The City of God that the dimensions of the Ark corresponded to the dimensions of the human body, which corresponds to the body of Christ; the equation of Ark and Church is still found in the Anglican rite of baptism, which asks God, “who of thy great mercy didst save Noah,” to receive into the Church the infant about to be baptised.

 

In medieval Christianity, Noah’s three sons were generally considered as the founders of the populations of the three known continents, Japheth/Europe, Shem/Asia, and Ham/Africa, although a rarer variation held that they represented the three classes of medieval society – the priests (Shem), the warriors (Japheth), and the peasants (Ham). In the 18th and 19th centuries the view that Ham’s sons in general had been literally “blackened” by the curse of Noah was cited as justification for black slavery.[citation needed]

 

In Latter-day Saint theology, the angel Gabriel lived in his mortal life as the patriarch Noah. Gabriel and Noah are regarded as the same individual; Noah being his mortal name and Gabriel being his heavenly name.

 

Islamic view of Noah

 

Noah is a highly important figure in Islam, and is seen as one of the most significant prophets of all. The Qur’an contains 43 references to Noah in 28 chapters and the seventy-first chapter, Chapter Noah, is named after him. Noah’s narratives largely consist around his preaching as well the story of the Deluge. Noah’s narrative lays the prototype for many of the subsequent prophetic stories, which begin with the prophet warning his people and then the community rejecting the message and facing a punishment. Noah is not the first prophet sent to mankind, according to the Quran (The first prophet according to Islam is Adam, who was the first man and thus the first prophet as he was the only one to deliver the message at that time). Noah has several titles in Islam, based primarily on praise for him in the Qur’an, including True Messenger of God (XXVI: 107) and Grateful Servant of God (XVII: 3). The Qur’an further states that God chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham and the family of Amram above all mankind (III: 33).

The Qur’an focuses on several instances from Noah’s life more than others, and one of the most significant events is the Deluge. God makes a covenant with Noah just as with Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad later on (XXXIII: 7). Noah is later reviled by his people and reproached by them for being a mere human messenger and not an angel (X: 72-74). Moreover, the people of Noah mock Noah’s words and call him a liar (VII: 62) and even suggest that Noah is possessed by a devil when the prophet ceases to preach (LIV: 9). Only the lowest in the community join Noah in believing in God’s message (XI: 29), and Noah’s narrative further describes him preaching both in private and public. The Qur’an narrates that Noah received a revelation to build an Ark, after his people refused to believe in his message and hear the warning. The narrative goes on to describe that waters poured forth from the Heavens, destroying all the sinners. After the Great Flood ceased, the Ark rested atop Mount Judi (Qur’an 11:44).

 

Gnostic

 

The tomb of Noah in today’s Nakhchivan area of the Azerbaijan Republic. The name Nakhijevan is believed to derive from the meaning “The place where Noah landed after the flood” from Armenian (Nakhchivan used to be part of Armenia.

 

Gnosticism was an important development of (and departure from) early Christianity, blending Jewish scriptures and Christian teachings with traditional pagan religion and esoteric Greek philosophical concepts. An important Gnostic text, the Apocryphon of John, reports that the chief archon caused the flood because he desired to destroy the world he had made, but the First Thought informed Noah of the chief archon’s plans, and Noah informed the remainder of humanity. Unlike the account of Genesis, not only are Noah’s family saved, but many others also heed Noah’s call. There is no ark in this account; instead Noah and the others hide in a “luminous cloud”.

 

Baha’i

 

The Bahá’í Faith regards the Ark and the Flood as symbolic. In Bahá’í belief, only Noah’s followers were spiritually alive, preserved in the ark of his teachings, as others were spiritually dead.[24][25] The Bahá’í scripture Kitáb-i-Íqán endorses the Islamic belief that Noah had a large number of companions, either 40 or 72, besides his family on the Ark, and that he taught for 950 (symbolic) years before the flood.

 

Mythologies

 

Flood mythNoah’s first burnt offering after the Flood – relief in Holy Trinity Column in Olomouc

 

Ancient Greek

 

In Greek mythology, Noah has often been compared to Deucalion, the son of Prometheus and Pronoia. Like Noah, Deucalion is a wine maker or wine seller; he is forewarned of the flood (this time by Zeus and Poseidon); he builds an ark and staffs it with creatures – and when he completes his voyage, gives thanks and takes advice from the gods on how to repopulate the Earth. Deucalion also sends a pigeon to find out about the situation of the world and the bird return with an olive branch. This and some other examples of apparent comparison between Greek myths and the “key characters” in the Old Testament/Torah have led recent biblical scholars to suggest a Hellenistic influence in the composition of the earlier portions of the Hebrew Bible.

 

Mesopotamian

 

The earliest written flood myth is found in the Mesopotamian Epic of Atrahasis and Epic of Gilgamesh texts. Many scholars believe that Noah and the Biblical Flood story are derived from the Mesopotamian version, predominantly because Biblical mythology that is today found in Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Mandeanism shares overlapping consistency with far older written ancient Mesopotamian story of The Great Flood, and that the early Hebrews were known to have lived in Mesopotamia.

 

Gilgamesh’s historical reign is believed to have been approximately 2700 BCE, shortly before the earliest known written stories. The discovery of artifacts associated with Aga and Enmebaragesi of Kish, two other kings named in the stories, has lent credibility to the historical existence of Gilgamesh.

 

The earliest Sumerian Gilgamesh poems date from as early as the Third dynasty of Ur (2100–2000 BC). One of these poems mentions Gilgamesh’s journey to meet the flood hero, as well as a short version of the flood story. The earliest Akkadian versions of the unified epic are dated to ca. 2000–1500 BC. Due to the fragmentary nature of these Old Babylonian versions, it is unclear whether they included an expanded account of the flood myth; although one fragment definitely includes the story of Gilgamesh’s journey to meet Utnapishtim. The “standard” Akkadian version included a long version of the flood story and was edited by Sin-liqe-unninni sometime between 1300 and 1000 BC. In the Mesopotamian epics, Atrahasis (Utnapishtim) is glorified as a hero for his epic deeds of building and loading the ark, whereas Genesis simply says, “Noah did all that the LORD commanded him.” Obedience to God, not human courage, is the focus in the later Genesis narrative

 

The dispersion of the descendants of Shem, Ham, and Japheth 

(map from the 1854 Historical Textbook and Atlas of Biblical Geography)

A Jewish depiction of Noah

 

The righteousness of Noah is the subject of much discussion among the rabbis.[19] The description of Noah as “righteous in his generation” implied to some that his perfection was only relative: In his generation of wicked people, he could be considered righteous, but in the generation of a tzadik like Abraham, he would not be considered so righteous. They point out that Noah did not pray to God on behalf of those about to be destroyed, as Abraham prayed for the wicked of Sodom and Gomorrah. In fact, Noah is never seen to speak; he simply listens to God and acts on his orders. 

 

 

This led such commentators to offer the figure of Noah as “the man in a fur coat,” who ensured his own comfort while ignoring his neighbour. Others, such as the medieval commentator Rashi, held on the contrary that the building of the Ark was stretched over 120 years, deliberately in order to give sinners time to repent. Rashi interprets his father’s statement of the naming of Noah (in Hebrew נֹחַ) “This one will comfort (in Hebrew– yeNaHamainu יְנַחֲמֵנו) from our work and our hands sore from the land that the Lord had cursed”,[20] by saying Noah heralded a new era of prosperity, when there was easing (in Hebrew – nahah – נחה) from the curse from the time of Adam when the Earth produced thorns and thistles even where men sowed wheat and that Noah then introduced the plow.

 

Christianity

 

An early Christian depiction showing Noah giving the gesture of orant as the dove returns

 

According to 2 Peter 2:5, Noah is considered a “preacher of righteousness”. Of the Gospels in the New Testament, the Gospel of Luke compares Noah’s Flood with the coming Day of Judgement: “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so too it will be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man.” 

 

An early Christian depiction showing Noah giving the gesture of orant as the dove returns

The First Epistle of Peter compares the saving power of baptism with the Ark saving those who were in it. In later Christian thought, the Ark came to be compared to the Church: salvation was to be found only within Christ and his Lordship, as in Noah’s time it had been found only within the Ark. St Augustine of Hippo (354–430), demonstrated in The City of God that the dimensions of the Ark corresponded to the dimensions of the human body, which corresponds to the body of Christ; the equation of Ark and Church is still found in the Anglican rite of baptism, which asks God, “who of thy great mercy didst save Noah,” to receive into the Church the infant about to be baptised.

 

In medieval Christianity, Noah’s three sons were generally considered as the founders of the populations of the three known continents, Japheth/Europe, Shem/Asia, and Ham/Africa, although a rarer variation held that they represented the three classes of medieval society – the priests (Shem), the warriors (Japheth), and the peasants (Ham). In the 18th and 19th centuries the view that Ham’s sons in general had been literally “blackened” by the curse of Noah was cited as justification for black slavery.[citation needed]

 

In Latter-day Saint theology, the angel Gabriel lived in his mortal life as the patriarch Noah. Gabriel and Noah are regarded as the same individual; Noah being his mortal name and Gabriel being his heavenly name.

 

Islamic view of Noah

 

Noah is a highly important figure in Islam, and is seen as one of the most significant prophets of all. The Qur’an contains 43 references to Noah in 28 chapters and the seventy-first chapter, Chapter Noah, is named after him. Noah’s narratives largely consist around his preaching as well the story of the Deluge. Noah’s narrative lays the prototype for many of the subsequent prophetic stories, which begin with the prophet warning his people and then the community rejecting the message and facing a punishment. Noah is not the first prophet sent to mankind, according to the Quran (The first prophet according to Islam is Adam, who was the first man and thus the first prophet as he was the only one to deliver the message at that time). Noah has several titles in Islam, based primarily on praise for him in the Qur’an, including True Messenger of God (XXVI: 107) and Grateful Servant of God (XVII: 3). The Qur’an further states that God chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham and the family of Amram above all mankind (III: 33).

The Qur’an focuses on several instances from Noah’s life more than others, and one of the most significant events is the Deluge. God makes a covenant with Noah just as with Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad later on (XXXIII: 7). Noah is later reviled by his people and reproached by them for being a mere human messenger and not an angel (X: 72-74). Moreover, the people of Noah mock Noah’s words and call him a liar (VII: 62) and even suggest that Noah is possessed by a devil when the prophet ceases to preach (LIV: 9). Only the lowest in the community join Noah in believing in God’s message (XI: 29), and Noah’s narrative further describes him preaching both in private and public. The Qur’an narrates that Noah received a revelation to build an Ark, after his people refused to believe in his message and hear the warning. The narrative goes on to describe that waters poured forth from the Heavens, destroying all the sinners. After the Great Flood ceased, the Ark rested atop Mount Judi (Qur’an 11:44).

 

Gnostic

 

The tomb of Noah in today’s Nakhchivan area of the Azerbaijan Republic. The name Nakhijevan is believed to derive from the meaning “The place where Noah landed after the flood” from Armenian (Nakhchivan used to be part of Armenia.

 

Gnosticism was an important development of (and departure from) early Christianity, blending Jewish scriptures and Christian teachings with traditional pagan religion and esoteric Greek philosophical concepts. An important Gnostic text, the Apocryphon of John, reports that the chief archon caused the flood because he desired to destroy the world he had made, but the First Thought informed Noah of the chief archon’s plans, and Noah informed the remainder of humanity. Unlike the account of Genesis, not only are Noah’s family saved, but many others also heed Noah’s call. There is no ark in this account; instead Noah and the others hide in a “luminous cloud”.

 

Baha’i

 

The Bahá’í Faith regards the Ark and the Flood as symbolic. In Bahá’í belief, only Noah’s followers were spiritually alive, preserved in the ark of his teachings, as others were spiritually dead.[24][25] The Bahá’í scripture Kitáb-i-Íqán endorses the Islamic belief that Noah had a large number of companions, either 40 or 72, besides his family on the Ark, and that he taught for 950 (symbolic) years before the flood.

 

Mythologies

 

Flood mythNoah’s first burnt offering after the Flood – relief in Holy Trinity Column in Olomouc

 

Ancient Greek

 

In Greek mythology, Noah has often been compared to Deucalion, the son of Prometheus and Pronoia. Like Noah, Deucalion is a wine maker or wine seller; he is forewarned of the flood (this time by Zeus and Poseidon); he builds an ark and staffs it with creatures – and when he completes his voyage, gives thanks and takes advice from the gods on how to repopulate the Earth. Deucalion also sends a pigeon to find out about the situation of the world and the bird return with an olive branch. This and some other examples of apparent comparison between Greek myths and the “key characters” in the Old Testament/Torah have led recent biblical scholars to suggest a Hellenistic influence in the composition of the earlier portions of the Hebrew Bible.

 

Mesopotamian

 

The earliest written flood myth is found in the Mesopotamian Epic of Atrahasis and Epic of Gilgamesh texts. Many scholars believe that Noah and the Biblical Flood story are derived from the Mesopotamian version, predominantly because Biblical mythology that is today found in Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Mandeanism shares overlapping consistency with far older written ancient Mesopotamian story of The Great Flood, and that the early Hebrews were known to have lived in Mesopotamia.

 

Gilgamesh’s historical reign is believed to have been approximately 2700 BCE, shortly before the earliest known written stories. The discovery of artifacts associated with Aga and Enmebaragesi of Kish, two other kings named in the stories, has lent credibility to the historical existence of Gilgamesh.

 

The earliest Sumerian Gilgamesh poems date from as early as the Third dynasty of Ur (2100–2000 BC). One of these poems mentions Gilgamesh’s journey to meet the flood hero, as well as a short version of the flood story. The earliest Akkadian versions of the unified epic are dated to ca. 2000–1500 BC. Due to the fragmentary nature of these Old Babylonian versions, it is unclear whether they included an expanded account of the flood myth; although one fragment definitely includes the story of Gilgamesh’s journey to meet Utnapishtim. The “standard” Akkadian version included a long version of the flood story and was edited by Sin-liqe-unninni sometime between 1300 and 1000 BC. In the Mesopotamian epics, Atrahasis (Utnapishtim) is glorified as a hero for his epic deeds of building and loading the ark, whereas Genesis simply says, “Noah did all that the LORD commanded him.” Obedience to God, not human courage, is the focus in the later Genesis narrative

 

The dispersion of the descendants of Shem, Ham, and Japheth 

(map from the 1854 Historical Textbook and Atlas of Biblical Geography)



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    • Idiot Proof

      The story of Noah is not originally a Biblical story, but a story of the ancient Sumerian Texts. It did not happen in Biblical times, but, thousands of years before that.
      Read The Lost Book of Enki…

      • Mellissa

        I was wondering if the different ages the tale was found in accounts for the long age attributed. Or they accounted years differently. Maybe a mis-interpretation long ago made years months and he died at 77.

        The story was even considered old in the Sumerian texts, it was like the story of Gilgamesh. History told with the epic flare of one told often.

        • aquasoldier

          Our solar system and it’s resultant time keeping abilities, as it were, seems to be as thus: the sun is the post on the clock and the planets, at least nine of them, are hands.The post of the sun is also itself a hand of a larger clock. When something interrupts this precision, then time, or what at least what we base it on, is changed. Just as commonality exists between ancient cultures all around the earth of an epic flood, according to their own histories, they also exist of an epic marvel beholding in the sky. Something that changed the orbit of familiars in the sky, even the very rotation of the earth itself so as the sun rose and sat at differing times. Now what was one year old, suddenly became ten, what is eighty years old now would have been eight-hundred then.

    • Pharisees.org

      The real blockbuster news that people who love God need to know is that the bible contains writings that are not of God, and writings that are of God.

      Most of the New Testament section of Bibles contains many writings that are of the Pharisees.

      From that basis of knowledge, more knowledge should come to light among those who love God that the Gentile churches which are founded on Pharisee doctrine are the Synagogues of Satan because out of the Gentile churches comes the blasphemous teaching that Gentiles are the true Jews (Romans 2:28-29 and Revelation 2:9).

      /spirit/2013/01/jews-of-asia-v-false-apostle-paul-2474836.html

    • Smith

      So what.

    • Pix

      It’s got to be one of the most ridiculously idiotic stories next to Adam and Eve. Why would the all knowing, all powerful creator of everything deliberately because it’s all knowing, create man so it could drown them and the world?

      Originally it did not want man to know the difference between good and bad, we won’t go into what sort of entity wouldn’t want its creation to know that. Punished and cursed man for it. And then changes its mind, saves the one family that does know, and drowns the entire world because the rest of humanity didn’t. Damned if you do and double damned if you don’t, in that there is no hope if you don’t disobey, they all drowned.

      It’s another episode of captian nasty being a narcissistic schizophrenic genocidal maniac. Because it being all knowing means it knows the outcome of everything before it does anything, so anything it does must be deliberate. Or else why create something you know is going to fail just to whine about it and torture them for all eternity, when you already know the outcome. Same thing with any judgemental BS.

      The trouble with the religious they were mislebled, ‘oxymorons r us’ is far more descriptive. People should sue then for selling goods that don’t meet their description.

      • aquasoldier

        Well lets see; if i were an omnipotent god and wanted to create something more than just say a car or rock than i would give it independent thought so as to accommodate any objections that might be had at me creating it. My only desire at giving it or them independent thought and it’s attendant consequences is i would want to know they wanted to be there. You know that crazy little thing called “love”. Then i would have to separate those who wanted to be with me, from those who didn’t, and those who didn’t would have the absence of me just as they believed it. Those that liked that i had created them and wanted to remain with me would. Sounds simple to me. But if one choose his own way then let him eat drink and be merry for this is the only life they have.

        • Pix

          If there was an omniscient being there wouldn’t be any independent thought. You would have no choice other than to follow the know future, which it sees before it creates anything.

          If you know the future of your creation as a fact, that it turns out evil, would you create it anyway? And if so why? To have the pleasure of torturing them for all eternity?

          Omniscience + freewill = Oxymoron. They are two opposing absolutes.

        • Pix

          I can’t see much difference in the biblical deities actions, than someone deliberately throwing a litter of kittens down a well knowing they will drown, and then declaring disappointment they all drowned.

          :lol:

    • 120Hounds

      The Garden of Eden is God’s creation in which He does as He wills, but the fact that man has no free will in the Garden of Eden does raise some questions. For example, if the Bible says that we are created in God’s image, and if God has free will, then why does man not have freewill in the Garden of Eden? Should not being created in God’s image give man that attribute? A simple reading of the text suggests that the answer to these questions is no. In Genesis chapter one, God creates everything and sees that it is good. Nowhere does the Bible mention either love or purpose for the world. God is happy with His creations, but the Bible does not say that He loved His creation. The same can be said about chapter two. We see man’s purpose in the world, but we do not have any idea what God has in mind for the world itself. This means that man is not created in God’s image at the beginning because man did not have free will.

      In Genesis 3:5 and 3:6, sin enters the world. Along with sin, freewill enters the world: For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil. When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. In verse five, the serpent speaks to Eve. He tells her that she can eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad is edible. Eve still does not have free will at this point. There is a shift in the language of the verses in chapters two and three at this point, but man still does not have free will. Whereas the verses before tell how God makes the decisions and acts on His own will without man having any say, in verses five and six, Eve acts on the will of the serpent. The serpent tells Eve that it is okay to eat. Eve does not make that decision by herself. She does as the serpent tells her because she has no free will. Adam takes the fruit from Eve and eats it because she offers it to him. He has no free will either. Adam hears the serpent’s argument, and he too does as the serpent and his wife want him to do because he has no free will. He does not have the opportunity to say no.

      After this event, however, man does acquire free will. The story continues as Adam and Eve realize their nakedness and choose to cover themselves. Adam and Eve feel shame, and they choose to hide themselves from God when He is in the garden. Man now has free will. He can act on his own desires and in theory not have to listen to God anymore. The serpent says in verse five that Adam and Eve will know good and evil and that they will be like God because of it. Does this mean that they were not like God when the Bible says that they were created in God’s image? The two ideas about man’s state at the time of creation seem contradictory. However, in Genesis 3:22 it says, The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. God speaks in this quote. It seems that man is not created in God’s image immediately as the simple reading of the passage in Genesis chapter one suggests. The use of the word ‘now’ implies that man has no free will before eating the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. It also implies that God knows that man would eat of the tree and gain free will, because it is God’s intention to create man in His image.

      • Pix

        “In Genesis 3:5 and 3:6, sin enters the world. Along with sin, freewill enters the world:”

        Er, no it does not say that at all.

        “5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

        6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.”

        What sort of entity wouldn’t want its sensitive thinking feeling creation to know good from evil?

        What sort of entity would want another to know good from evil?

        How honest are you? Because as far as I can see, not at all. :wink:

        • 120Hounds

          I am talking about concepts, for example, Evil is closely associated with sin. When I talk to men about big concepts, I’m not referring to some woman athiest and her stellar knowledge of the concept of sin. You probably call Evil ‘Happy Play Time’. And I’m sure you enjoy all the Happy Play Time you can get.

    • Confederate

      I remember seeing the video posted here several years ago. Personally I do not think that what they found is Noah’s Ark but the evidence is compelling. I don’t think they will ever find Noah’s Ark any more than they will find the Ark of the Covenant (& no I don’t think it’s in Ethiopia! Just saying its hidden away in some church is not proof)!

    • Confederate

      There is one thing that I notice this video has wrong. They state that a rectangular craft would not work! I call bull sh1t on that one, several years ago some marine engineers made a scale model of the Ark (rectangular) & tested it as they test all ship designs & it worked perfectly! They only reason for telling people that a rectangular craft would not work is that it would blow holes in their bogus theory!

    • Ray Alex Website

      First, there never was any NOAH. His real name was Ziusudra. And if there were anyone saving anything? you can not quote the Bible. Which is a poorly made copy out of the real old stories from the Sumerians and others.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziusudra

    • evidenceatlast

      Type “best evidence of noah’s ark mt ararat” into youtube.

    • stevevw

      in the garden of Eden man had free choice, that was the way he was made. He just didn’t know sin and had the and was made in the image of God but was not God.. To understand this you just have to look to Jesus. He was God incarnate but took on the nature of man as well so that he made a bridge between man and God. So Jesus had free will and he choose to follow God the father. He never used his power to not sin and was capable of sinning as much as any. But he was fully acceptable to Gods will and completely put his trust and life in Gods hands. Thats why they call Jesus the last Adam. As the original Adam sinned and brought that sin into the world Jesus came to give us a way to overcome that sin and be able to do the will of God and have forgiveness for that sin. We can be just like Jesus by accepting him into our lives and trusting God.

      Because there had to be free will to enable man to be a person and not a robot it was there as part of the makeup of life. Satan knew of this and wanted to challenge God and show that he was greater. He tempted Adam and Eve and thus brought Sin and the knowledge of good and evil into this world. God created things this way and thats the way it had to be otherwise he may as well have created a bunch of robots or pretend toys that he could do whatever with. Before they sinned they had no knowledge of sin and when they sinned they knew they were naked and hid from God. They did not know this before hand. So sin entered into the world and the only way it can be defeated is by the sacrifice of his only son and his resurrection. Christs resurrection from the dead defeated the power of sin and death.

      God is all knowing and just as Christ said to Peter that Peter would deny him 3 times when the cock crowed before he did it he knew the nature of man. Because he knows this doesn’t mean he can and will intervene in the affairs of man. Otherwise once again we may as well be robots. He has given us a choice and a way to come to him through Jesus Christ. Sin was going to enter this world and no one could stop it other wise there is no free will and man is not fully free. The bible predicts the end times and this is all that will happen to finally defeat Satan and sin once and for all and restore Gods kingdom. God is a loving God and he gave his only son so that we can be saved. As we can see this world is believing less in God and the end result of sin is death. We are seeing mankind defy God and think that he can do things better and without God. Satan wants us to think this and he will do everything to take us away from God. He wants to be God and rule this world.

      As Satan takes control and man rules we will see more death and destruction. Not because God is doing it but because man chooses to do it without God. Many of the prophesies are coming true now and many more will come. The time is getting close for the return of Christ and the defeat of Satan. The world is in conflict and there are wars and rumors of wars. We are using this planet fast and economies are collapsing. People are hungry and dying as others get rich and powerful. These are all the signs of the times just as the bible says like the changing of the weather. The storms are brewing and soon the time will come.

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