Did The Apostle Paul Say: “I DO EVIL”?
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Now in truth I have answered this question already in my article entitled: “Was The Apostle Paul a Schizophrenic?” which I wrote several years ago, and I would recommend that article to you all now as companion reading to this article.
The thing is, as we enter the closing stages of this age (The Last Days of The Last Days) with the imminent return of Yashua Anointed to this wretched world, there appears to be a substantial increase in the numbers of demonic anti-Christ/anti-Paul/anti-Grace blasphemers out there, and they must be confronted, admonished and rebuked at every turn, so let’s get to it with an example of what one of them is saying.
So did Paul say the words “I DO EVIL”, because there is at least one who thinks he did and accuses him of same. Now what’s interesting about this issue is the infantile use of this phrase “I do evil”, the user having literally made it up and extracted it, not only from a whole verse of Holy Scripture, but from a whole contextual chapter of Holy Scripture as well, namely Romans 7, in order to make a lie, and a deviously evil, vile and misleading point. Bearing false witness doesn’t come anywhere near to the wickedness involved here. Moreover, here is the rub and the exposure of the first lie, because nowhere does Paul categorically say: “I do evil.” The words, as written by this blasphemer, do not exist in The Holy Scriptures, and here is the verse that he has polluted and corrupted in order to build his doctrine of The Devil:
Romans 7:19 (KJV) For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
OK, there it is, now can you see the words as he has written them? Which means did Paul say: I DO EVIL – period? If you can see these words as written then you have a serious problem – a delusional problem, a blindness problem and, with it, missing the point completely. So what has Paul actually said here? Well, he starts off by saying: “The good that I would, I do not.” What does he mean by that? Easy, the GOOD that Paul WANTS to do he doesn’t do. Why is that? Because Paul’s new nature, his new man, the man who wants to do good, resides in his dead body of sin that still sins. Is Paul making excuses for himself here? No way, for elsewhere he says:
Romans 6:15 (KJV) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
So what is Paul saying? This: “But the evil WHICH I WOULD NOT, that I do. So what does this mean? Again, easy, the evil that Paul doesn’t want to do, he ends up doing. So is he deliberately, blatantly and willingly doing evil? No way. So what is he telling us? He’s telling us that he is fighting a battle or an anguished mental turmoil, and losing, because his sinful nature is overcoming his inner desire not to sin. OK, so does that mean that Paul is now reprobate? God forbid, because he now has a God-given INNER MAN that desires not to sin.
Now do the lost, fallen and unsaved i.e. sinners have this inner desire not to sin? Of course not, they’re lost – dead in their sins, but is Paul dead in his sins? Again, no way, because he is forgiven all of his sins – all of his sins have been removed as far as the east is from the west:
Psalms 103:12 (KJV) As far as the east is from the west, so far hath He removed our transgressions from us.
John 1:29 (KJV) The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Paul was forgiven all of his sins on the road to Damascus. OK, so what are these sins that he is unwillingly committing? Dead sins as opposed to living sins and yet Paul still acknowledges them as sins and holding him captive. Yet again, would the lost, fallen and unsaved i.e. sinners be having this battle of the conscience or admitting that their sins hold them captive? Once more, no way, and the whole idea would be ridiculous because they will just make excuses for their sins and carry on sinning regardless.
So what’s going on with regard to Paul’s, and our, predicament if we are Born of God? To explain this I will use The Living Bible:
Romans 7:15-17 “I don’t understand myself at all, for I really want to do what is right, but I can’t. I do what I don’t want to do – I do what I hate. 16 I know perfectly well what I am doing is wrong, and my bad conscience proves that I agree with these laws that I am breaking. 17 But I can’t help myself, because I AM NO LONGER DOING IT. It is sin inside me that is stronger than I am that makes me do these evil things”
Here Paul graphically explains our new dual natures. One, The New Creature Born of God who is no longer sinning, and all the while whilst living within a dead body of sin that occasionally sins.
There you have it folks – the miracle that is being Born of God and a new creature that does not sin which John confirms for us here:
1 John 3:9 (KJV) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
So let’s be done with all these anti-Paul Judaising Grace killers and rebuke them with all The Holy Spiritual power He has given us.
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Now do the lost, fallen and unsaved i.e. sinners have this inner desire not to sin? Of course not, they’re lost – dead in their sins.
If this is true why does Christ say, those who have much more will be given and to those who dont have even what they do have will be taken away. This speaks of the holy spirit. Simply put Christ says we all have it and we dont know who it will be taken from and who will acquire more. It can be too late for certain people at certain times especially in these dark times.
Matthew 35 And Jesus went throughout all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom and healing every disease and every affliction. 36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.37 Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few; 38 therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest.”
We as humans do not know who will repent when or why. Your statement speaks as if a sinner can never repent and acquire an inner man.
Maybe you will repent one day and have compassion for the lost also.
Other than your personal opinions, well written article I enjoyed it.
God bless
Now do the lost, fallen and unsaved i.e. sinners have this inner desire not to sin? Of course not, they’re lost – dead in their sins.
If this is true why does Christ say, those who have much more will be given and to those who dont have even what they do have will be taken away. This speaks of the holy spirit. Simply put Christ says we all have it and we dont know who it will be taken from and who will acquire more. It can be too late for certain people at certain times but not always.
Matthew 35 And Jesus went throughout all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom and healing every disease and every affliction. 36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.37 Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few; 38 therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest.”
We as humans do not know who will repent when or why. Your statement speaks as if a sinner can never repent and acquire an inner man.
Maybe you will repent one day and have compassion for the lost also.
Other than your personal opinions, well written article I enjoyed it.
God bless
Oh dear yet another mainstrean religious Christian with no understanding. Never was the phrase: “a little knowledge is dangerous.” more applicable than to poorly taught wretched mainstream Christians.
Many are called, FEW are chosen.
The Lord’s words you have quoted apply ONLY to those called, so they apply to YOU, not the lost and the unsaved. The lost and the unsaved have been given nothing, so nothing is expected from them in return. The lost and the unsaved rarely feature in The Lord’s words at all. His words were always aimed at the religious imposters of His day and His learners (the disciples), no one else.
Hence He said these words:
Matt 13:10-16 (KJV) And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
What applied then, applies today.
You speak of too late, which again displays your ignorance and Scriptural blindness. You and your fellows have no idea when in comes to the Two Resurrections when in the Second Resurrection at the end of The Millennium most of mankind will be resurrected and be given their first chance of salvation.
1 Tim 2:4 (KJV) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of The Truth.
The First Resurrection will occur at Yashua Anointed’s return to this earth in the not too distant future when the goats will be separated from the sheep, so I urge you to rethink and purge your mind and heart of mainstream Christian garbage and repent forthwith so that you are not counted amongst the goats.
I understand all this but it doesnt justify your or my lack of compassion. Let us change image to image to the glory of Christ. Its our job to bring others to repentance. Theres more joy in heaven over 1 repentant sinner than 99 just persons. I also realize that not one that God gives to Christ will be lost.
Must say also, quite an ego there. If you can explain all Gods mysteries as theyve been granted to you for you truly see then please do.
God bless.
I understand all this but it doesnt justify your or my lack of compassion. Let us change image to image to the glory of Christ. Its our job to bring others to repentance. Theres more joy in heaven over 1 repentant sinner than 99 just persons. I also realize that not one that God gives to Christ will be lost.
God bless.
That’s the problem. Your blindness even makes you come out with statements like: “I understand this.” When you don’t understand at all.
You speak of “God’s Mysteries,” well let these two verses of Holy Scripture sink into your brain and stay there and then hopefully His ways will become less mysterious:
John 6:44 (KJV) No man can come to me, except The Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:65 (KJV) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Yashua Anointed brought no one to repentance and I bring no one to repentance and yet you think you are charged with doing so. This then beggars the question: How did you arrogantly take this mission or responsibility upon YOUR shoulders and then have the judgmental audacity to say that I have an ego?
Let this be clear, I boast in Yashua Anointed and no one else.
Let me know when YOU are ready to repent and then I will teach you the error of your mainstream Christian ways, for they are NOT The WAY, nor were they ever The Way.
So youve quoted the scripture, I knew you would. So basically youre saying the inner man. That tiny voice that says, come! Repent! The voice of the father calling the sinner to repent is true.
So you agree to my previous posts, thanks for confirming that even unrepentant, lost and unsaved have the inner man.
The lamb of God makes people repent because he was the word in the flesh. Dont you see how God works? You must remember the story of Elijah and how he wanted God to show signs and wonders but instead was a whisper in the wind? If wrong please correct.
Im far away from mainstream christianity. Not sure why you say that, I basically read John Maccarthur and the bible whether it be phone app or actual book and have no denomination. The schism in church proves theyve all welcomed errored translations of doctrine proving they argue petty arguments. If petty arguments cant be solved how will they solve anything as co rulers in Gods kingdom is an initial thought.
Maccarther believes the rapture, I disagree with that. Some other things also but agree with most of what he speaks in truth.
You boast in Christ while I boast in the Father. Who is greater, the servant or the master? Did Christ glorify himself or the Father? He glorified the Father so the father glorified him. These are all basic things and you dont know them and call me blind. I guess I try harder not to be blind than you.
God bless Yes2Truth, may peace be within.
maybe this time will post tried 5 or 6 times already and apologies for double posts
No, I am not agreeing with you nor could I ever agree with an unrepentant mainstream Christian. You say you’re not but you sound just like them and behave in the same way.
“So basically youre saying the inner man.”
Do not put your erroneous words into my mouth.
There is no inner man until a man is Baptised and recieves the gift of The Holy Spirit. Then there is a new creation; then there is a new man residing in a DEAD body of sin. Until that time a man is still a sinful man with a LIVING body of sin who is being called whereby the Holy Spirit comes and goes as necessary and as Yashua Anointed commands it.
“That tiny voice that says, come! Repent! The voice of the father calling the sinner to repent is true.”
There is no tiny voice when we are called. The voice is loud, clear and umambiguous, and you are not doing the calling, as you stated in your second comment – and I will quote what you said:
“Its our job to bring others to repentance.”
The Father is the ONLY one who does the calling and, with it, the bringing of them to repentance, and to my knowledge Elijah is the only man who ever heard a “still small voice,” and for a special purpose only. 1 Kings 19:12.
“The lamb of God makes people repent.”
This is not true. Yashua Anointed doesn’t make us do anything. The Father calls people to His Son and then they have the Father God given desire to repent and get Baptised. Once Baptised and they receive the Gift of The Holy Spirit they then have the inner desire to follow Yashua Anointed.
“I basically read John Maccarthur.”
I read no man, and I would advise you to do the same, if you see yourself as a messenger of Yashua Anointed, for this is what John says on the matter:
1 John 2:27 (KJV) But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.
Re mainstream Christianity, their petty auguments do not concern me at all and being denominations their behaviour should not surprise you, for denomination means division. Moreover, what concerns me are the major blasphemous errors of their heathen trinity beliefs; their satanic idea that THEY accept a ‘Jesus’ as their saviour and their even more foolishly judgmental ideas about the lost and unsaved all going to hell if they are not saved in this age.
Boasting in Yashua Anointed is correct, anything else is error. Did The Father die for you? Was The Father resurrected? Did The Holy Spirit die for you and likewise was it resurrected? You had better sort these crucial things out in your somewhat confused mind.
I don’t have to try, because my perfect sight is God given. I will therefore leave all the trying with you.
So you believe we go to paradise upon death only to come back to earth at a later time for the ressurection?
If so why does Christ say we must be born of the spirit and of the water. He implies some are born with the holy spirit. Then once becoming a sinner to baptise again. This is a natural course for all Christians for they are like the wind and blow where they wish. Being born again into a cycle and Christ was no different. If your first time being baptised is during the tribulation then youll see but not enter, physically. If you are born with it and come to Christ and the Father once again then you shall enter. John the Baptist was Elijah and ive stated this before in articles. Gotta put 2 and 2 together..
If you were sanctified in the truth you would know this but you are not, youre stubborn.
I really do recommend John Macarthur though, you actually arent that bad Yes2Truth. I kinda like ya. ;p
I agree on all your statements of mainstream Christianity as youve stated, no argument there.
Christ died for he obeyed the Father and it was his will also for the Fathers will was his own. He does pray at the garden of Gethsamene(sp?) I know I didnt spell right but you clearly see he asked that the cup pass as the Father wills, not his. So very slight discrepancy but what Im mainly saying is Christ is not the Father and yet he was. All who will be given much of the Fathers spirit will shine at the 7th trump. All being part of the Father and yet also the Father, one will shine brightest.
Christ says dont say the kingdom is here or ther for it is in your midst. Pretty straightforward stuff.. If ya believed in that sort of thing. I absolutely do.
Do you read the gnostic gospels?
God bless Yes2Truth, look forward to all these convos with a likeminded of sorts. Though I know ill be called blasphemer for downtalking Christ. He is who I strive to be like, or rather like the disciples. The disciples like Christ and we as they.
You also speak about Christ like the Pharisees spoke of Abraham. Theyd say hes our father. You say youre in Christ, say you believe but wheres the fruit? All I see is a man eating sour grapes. It is absolutely an obligation to evangalize to anyone and everyone or else you disobey the Father speaking to you continuously. Its the Father in us that preaches truth, if you know his word. All in due time im sure, a man of your faith will not just sit idle in a great time of need.
Hopefully the comment posts this time! Been trying a while and patiently adding more that should be said so tis k. Heh.
Comment on the trinity, its not as they believe. The Father has always been, its that spirit where all things come from. They are not all equal. The Father is all. The holy spirit is inside giving all good things. The son is the example we abide by, or again like the disciples. Christ did not believe equality with the Father a thing to be attained, I believe it. I thank the Father for Christ and loving me, the world. Showing me how to live my life because I had no good examples in my life. In this world they hate Christ and it shows, I didnt know a love like that existed but here I am. Living best I can in constant communication through the word. May peace be within brother.
“I really do recommend John Macarthur though, you actually arent that bad Yes2Truth. I kinda like ya. ;p”
I couldn’t care less whether you like me or not and I presume the fact that your head is so full of crap and nonsense, as per your latest comment, it’s due to this Macarthur idiot.
There’s an old saying that goes: “if you put your head in the garbage bin you’ll only get sick.”
Let me know when you’re ready to learn The Truth and we’ll go from there, otherwise stop wasting my time with your arrogant erroneous condescending gobble-de-gook.
You say my head is full of crap, mainly im sure because you dont have a response and I put Christ down a notch. You arent sanctified in Truth, you’ll get there.
God bless
Well of course a deluded blaspheming dog like you would attempt to put Yashua Anointed down a notch. I wouldn’t expect anything else. The classic “let’s make a god in our image” demonic behaviour.
You’re as big an idiot as your evil satanic blind mentor.
Macarthur’s Park. Now let’s see, didn’t he once have a cake recipe?
Again with nothing good to say, you say you follow the way. Your fruits dont show that ‘truth’. It must not be true then, youre just another man who Christ will say, “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’
I didnt really put Christ down a notch but in your blind eyes I did. He says himself equality with the Father is not obtainable, also the master is greater than the servant. I never lied to you or misinterpreted scripture. Its clear to see if you read and are willing to believe.
Easiest one to start with is John the Baptist is Elijah. How can Christ be your saviour if you do not believe and understand a simple statement?
Dont be as those who say and do not do. You just magically believe that because you believe in Christ and the Father youre saved. You believe but even demons believe. You have no personal relationship with Christ.
To put the icing on your little cake there, you sir. You, have far more in common with mainstream christianity. So you will be left out of the Kingdom until the 2nd resurrection. Your kind can be read so easily.
God bless may you be sanctified in Truth but not likely with your condescending attitude of, im better because I believe. When there are many millions who do, and never say. Its written on their hearts but not you. If you knew what Christ says about Elijah youd know just why!
Im done posting here, a thousand rebukes to a fool will just make him angry and he will gain no understanding.
You never gave a rebuttal with scripture included in the last 2 posts and thats why im done here.
How can anything good be said about idiots, apart from mocking them?
“I didnt really put Christ down a notch but in your blind eyes I did.
Rubbish. Nah, you put Him down alright, as soon as you said you boast in The Father and not Yashua Anointed. That was you playing some kind of perverted one-upmanship over me, because I said I boast in Yashua Anointed and not in myself. You also boast in men like Macarthur whoever he is. Just like those first century believers Paul had to deal with who were boasting in Apollos and Peter. You’re a blind guide like all blind guides but with a vain arrogance who needs to repent of Macarthur crap and nonsense.
Who said anything about Yashua Anointed being equal with The Father, not me. He gave up that equality to become flesh, but He was still God in the flesh and He died for you, The Father DID NOT. This makes your boasting in The Father a blasphemy, for without Yashua Anointed’s sacrifice YOU wo uld not even have access to The Father.
John the Baptist wasn’t Elijah, John the Baptist was John the Baptist. He came as the 2nd Elijah in the spirit of Elijah or as a type of Elijah. Elijah was dead in his grave.
I don’t believe in the trinity and you say I am like mainstream Christians, again this comment makes you an unthinking idiot devoid of an argument.
I can be read can I? Well how did you come to that arrogant ‘genious’ conclusion? When you couldn’t even read this Holy Scripture and comprehend it. In fact you completely ignored it when you carried on promoting Macarthur:
1 John 2:27 (KJV) But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.
You see it’s YOU that needs a man to teach you, I don’t, because Yashua Anointed teaches me.
Now where does that leave you other than beiing a Nobel Prize winner for Scriptural ignorance and arrogant vain self-righteousness?