The Words of Jesus Christ’s as Recorded in Matthew 7: 21, 22, 23 Utterly Destroy the Arguments of Those that Demand and Teach the Law i.e. the Torah was Abolished
The Words of Jesus Christ’s as recorded in Matthew 7: 21, 22, 23 utterly destroy the arguments of those that demand and teach the LAW i.e. the Torah was abolished.
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto “them”, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Read very carefully these three verses spoken by our Savior.
PLEASE take careful note;
Not everyone that simply calls Jesus Christ– “LORD” — will enter into the kingdom of Heaven.
Simply calling yourself a Christian does not make you a Christian so states your savior.
Just “believing” — just mouthing the words “I accept you LORD Jesus into my heart” — does not get the job done – so states your Savior and mine!
Many so called “Christians” will proclaim to our LORD and Master – “In that DAY” –
—“We have prophesied and taught – in your Holy Name!
—We have cast out devils using your HOLY Name!
—And in your HOLY Name —“WE” HAVE done may wonderful works.”
Read in verse 23 the WORDS of your savior to those “professing nominal Christian” –
23 And then will I profess unto “them”, I never knew you: depart from me, — ye that work iniquity.
JESUS CHRIST commands those that have proclaimed Jesus Christ is –THE LORD– and have done many wonderful works –—”TO DEPART FROM ME” – AND WHY ???
BECAUSE THEIR WORKS ARE THE WORKS OF INIQUITY!!
So called Christians are accused by Jesus Christ of being LAWLESS!
Just what exactly – is —- INIQUITY?
“INIQUITY”
Strong’s # 458
anomia: lawlessness
Original Word: ἀνομία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: anomia
Phonetic Spelling: (an-om-ee’-ah)
Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity
Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin.
HELPS Word-studies
458 anomía (from 1 /A “not” and 3551 /nómos, “law”) – properly, without law;
lawlessness; the utter disregard for God’s law (His written and living Word).
458 /anomía (“lawlessness”) includes the end-impact of law breaking – i.e. its negative influence on a person’s soul (status before God).
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from anomos
Definition lawlessness
NASB Translation
lawless deed (1), lawless deeds (2), lawlessness (12).
AND just what – exactly – is sin? Are we given a clear definition of sin in the WORD of GOD?
1 John 3; 4
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: — for sin is the transgression of the law.
OUR SAVIOR HAS ACCUSED SO CALLED CHRISTIANS OF BEING SINNERS, OF BEING – “WITHOUT LAW”, OF LIVING NOT ACCORDING TO THE LAW— AND — HAS COMMENDED THEM TO DEPART FROM HIM !!!!
Jesus Christ makes it very clear in verse 21 – to be a follower of HIS, to enter the Kingdom of Heaven ONE must “DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER” — not Christ’s – Will — but the FATHER’s WILL!
And most so called Christians reject the Father and will only follow the falsely called “New Law of Christ” . Christ has plainly stated “ye that work iniquity.”
To keep this paper short the great multitude of statements BY JESUS CHRIST making very very clear the LAW, the TORAH is in full force and effect and those that WILLFULLY transgress will NOT be in the KINGDOM of GOD will not be included.
Those many statements by Christ have been included repeatedly in past papers and just as the one’s in this paper – will be rejected and despised.
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Yawn !!!
Watch out SDA about….
crazy,
I was certain the WORDS of Jesus Christ would have no effect upon YOU. NONE!!
But with your “yawn” comment do you not understand YOU are accusing Jesus of preaching LIES??
CRAZY just for once — point out the error in the statements of Jesus Christ — just for the record!
Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto “them”, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Just where is Christ missing the boat??? Just who is it that He is telling to depart??
It is plain those that are WITHOUT THE LAW –LAWLESS! You crazy are lawless.
If you say you love God — explain HOW exactly !!!!!! How can God KNOW you love HIM??
By your words or by your deeds???
Faith without WORKS is death!!!
…crazy…he ain’t none of them letters…. he’s jist a “hyper judgmental” wanker who will never be able to unload his camel at the needle gate in time…he’s installed himself in the place of the ‘holy man of all time’…He knows everything ’bout everyone, and jist whuts in everybody’s heart.
….If he had his way we’d all be paying him tithes and and obeisance…
…I think he’s no more than a “hireling” who fleeth at the first sign of any threat…I don’t believe any thing he says, not in any completeness…he’s FULL of details, but there’s just something missing in his heart…He can’t really lead any body to truth…there’s no mercy nor compassion there…none—anybody with any sense can see that.
…If he can destroy you…. he will…all the time exclaiming “its the Law ..its the law!! Get away.. run…nothing there but death.
so maxwell Jesus Christ does not know what HE is talking about??
Those are not my words they are my Masters’s Words — please explain how Christ is preaching lies.
…seeker…. In my opinion the words that come out of you are a disgrace to Jesus Christ…I don’t care what you think you are doing…I don’t trust YOU…in any way, or in any form…You have zero concern for anybody or anything but YOUR OWN self image as THE “holy man of all time” the ONLY man on the earth who KNOWS and KEEPS the LAW in “PROPER” form…You could be totally correct in all you say and it would not change my opinion of you and your intentions…
….Go back to your fancy property and bank accounts and leave us poor sinners out here in the wilderness to work things out with Jesus Christ on our own personal time. Judgmental prick.
mazwell
all I am doing is quoting Jesus Christ and I am judgmental for doing so???
they are not my words telling you – you are lawless and living in iniquity they are the words of THE MASTER Jesus Christ.
I read we are to lift up our voices and point out the sins of the nations of Israel because if they do not repent — the judgement of the time of Jacob’s Trouble will certainly come.
If my Father blesses me with material things that is none of your business and my Father HAS, my Father owns all things He is beyond wealthy and He loves to give pack down and running over.
Seeker …You can’t do anything FOR anybody…all of your intentions are self-centered and judgmental. There is very little difference between you and the Pharisees that condemned Jesus while he was walking with them…Because they did not accept the reality of the Holy Spirit…JUST LIKE YOU…
…You are a Judgmental, holier than thou, self interested hireling that will fleeth at the sound of footsteps.
…go… your protection is what you’ve managed to collect here on this earth…not the Holy Spirit…which you have actually rejected in your own understanding. You know very little, if anything, of what Jesus taught us about the NEW Covenant. Stop pretending…You are exposed…Repent your pride, and accept that you have been deceived, by your own sanctimonious self appraisal.
…I know you will not accept the Holy Spirit…In HIS reality as YHVH/Christ…gwan..ya judgmental…”proud” pharisee.
…The Words of Christ on YOUR lips are like the babble that comes out of any other ‘Charismatic’ snake oil salesman.
maxwell
really and I get out of this what??? No one sends me money and i stopped caring what folks thought of me long ago.
If a person does not like how I talk, dress etc they are welcome to leave.
Maxwell I despise Satan’s world and this entire world and all of its religions including what is falsely called christian- everything — in this world is under the control of Satan.
The time of the end comes first upon the nations of Israel because they refused to obey, I can not stand to think of what is shortly coming upon the little children because their parents want to lie, fornicate, steal, take drugs etc.
I am simply letting those that will hear know why what is coming IS coming.
read Matthew 24: 5, Christ states many will come preaching that HE, Jesus, is THE Christ and with that message will deceive the many. THE MANY!
If you do not like what I post on BIN do not read it.
…As long as you are PREACHIN’…I’ll be there to call you on your prideful arrogance and false teachings….mr. holy man.
“Your words put ever so assuring
cannot calm the sea, nor can they command silence to the roaring winds! It is only a
blind man who does not remark the signs of the times; and if he is stone deaf, neither
can be aware of the most powerful rolling thunder of history, even of this that is the
most memorable time of the whole earth. Whereas Carmel and Sion bowed their
heads at the coming of the King of Glory, and the mountain tops of Horeb flowed
with milk and honey, you who should be the first to know about it and should inform
the waiting people thereof, you know not one syllable!”
No doubt, Truthseeker, i won’t be the only one who see’s what’s going on.
@Crazy-times@maxwell: It’s a simple enough question…
“point out the error in the statements [Matt 7:21-23] of Jesus Christ”
… so quit prancing about, with your feelings in a knot, and answer it.
21….I say doing the will of the Father, is accepting His forgiveness and assuming the Holy Spirit…the ‘unforgiven’ believe everybody else is as guilty they feel themselves to be. That’s called “judging”.
22…That’s the very arrogance I lay at the scripture lawyer’s feet
23…The Holy Spirit is “raining’ on us all…Its called the latter rain, and its on ALL of us…Do YOU know “IT”?
24..The “rock” IS Christ..IS the Holy Spirit…IS YHVH…as ONE.
25… tie yourself to the ROCK…IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, Or blow away.
26…see #25
You say, maxwell, you? Well what does the book say?
In the parable of the prodigal son (Luke 14:11-32) the father’s will was for only one thing and that was for the son to come home. Which provides prior witness for Jesus, who only came (John 6:38) to do His Father’s will, doubling down on the lesson where He said…
“And now [Father] come I to thee” John 17:13
… and the way home is also according to our Father’s will…
“that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life” (John 6:40)
… now then, maxwell, why didn’t you mention the Son while giving us your opinion on the will of the Father? You accuse us of negating Jesus yet you won’t even mention Him even though He is pivotal to understanding the will of God.
So what was “finished” (John 19:30) on the cross wasn’t the abolishing of the Law, as you would have it, but that the will of the Father had finally been done on earth as it is in heaven. If you believe in Jesus (John 14:12), who taught from the Torah and observed perfectly the whole of the Law, then you should be doing as He did.
Moving right along: when have we prophesied, cast out devils or otherwise claimed to have done wonderful works? You’re reaching, maxwell, unless you provide evidence to back your accusation of arrogance.
The rest of your comment is pointless given it results from your previous strawman argument. What you went on to say isn’t wrong just irrelevant.
Maxwell — lean not unto your own understanding —
Maxwell God gave us logic to use in proving all things.. show us another way?
Here is an example of the use of logic;
If as you “say” doing the will of the Father is “accepting His forgiveness and assuming the Spirit” ( and I have no clue what “assuming the Spirit” means because it can not be found in the Word)
THEN how did Christ who was sinless “accept the Father’s forgiveness”?? What was Christ forgiven of??? HE WAS SINLESS!
Thus your own understanding is baseless and what you espouse is not logical.
Maxwell the WILL of our FATHER is not some secret, if we are told by Christ He did the will of His Father and we are told to follow Christ as HE follows the Father’s WILL then it must be clearly written in the WORD –IN PLAIN SIGHT—and it is.
The WILL of the Father was GOD BREATHED, Spoken by GOD to Moses and written in 5 Books so HOLY they were put in the Ark of the Covenant next to the two tables of Stone. The WILL of God is found in the TORAH.
Here is your statement;
21….I say doing the will of the Father, is accepting His forgiveness and assuming the Holy Spirit…the ‘unforgiven’ believe everybody else is as guilty they feel themselves to be. That’s called “judging”.
Maxwell all have come short of the glory of GOD, ALL are under the condemnation of the Law i.e. under the sentence of death for their sins.
Unless a person joins Christ in His death, in His burial, and in His resurrection i.e. water baptism –by immersion, their sins are not forgiven and they are none of HIS.
The Holy Spirit is give by the laying on of hands and by That Spirit God the Father impregnates each one HE CALLS with the down payment of eternal life — THAT ONE SPIRIT is a small measure of the Father in us.
…Ok guys …I know both of you have all the interpretations and the references in your respective repertoires, but the one thing that I hold against your doctrine is that you have not recognized the the Holy Spirit as YHVH/Christ, as one. This is the absolute “line in the sand”.
…This ‘difference’ in doctrine, colors the reality here on earth right now in such contrasting shades, that it seems to me that you just don’t see.
…I am sure that after a year of grinding on seeker, that he thinks the same of my Christian grace. so…. there you are.
No Maxwell
I do not hold to the doctrine of a trinity that was invented by Rome in the 4th century.
Rome admits it can not be found in the old testament nor can be be found in writings until almost 200 years after the death of Christ. and it did not become catholic doctrine until the 4th century.
There are two in the God family; The Father and the Son and the spirit is the Father’s — that ONE spirit comes from the Father.
There ain’t no ghost – that is a Catholic invented LIE!
Maxwell I normally quote Christ or one of the apostles or prophets and then comment using logic and facts — I do not interpret any thing, I stand on ever WORD of GOD and let that WORD interpret its self.
If I want to know what a day is or a night I go to Genesis 1: 5
If I want to know what sin is I go to 1 John 3:4
If I want to know what unrighteousness is I go to 1 Corn 6: 9
It all here a little and there a little and it is ALL in God’s WORD.
,,,I know what you think about it….what you didn’t read, apparently, was that, I find your entire doctrine un-trustworthy. The line is drawn…do what you like. …
Latter Rain is falling for a few more months…you’ll have more chances.
…You’ll save your reputation at the cost of your soul…wontcha holy man?
Maxwell,
I am no holy man, I am a sinner that has had his debt to sin paid by his Master and my Master has given me wisdom and understanding from above and you hate it that fact.
You hate what I have been given and you hate that very narrow WAY that Christ blazed for His Disciples to follow and I have chosen to follow that narrow WAY and speak boldly of it and you hate that boldness as well.
I will do the will of my Master which IS the will of my FATHER to my last breath.
…Oh so humble…Not a bit contrite, but, OH, so humble…If you can’t see what’s going on…. what could you possibly “give’ me? No you’re getting really funny there seeker. I don’t believe you have any consideration or concern for anyone but yourself.
…It seems that you, just can’t make the surrender whole. Give yourself to the Holy Spirit…Its got nothing to do with laying on of hands or any other charismatic ritual…its of the heart….the part of you where true love lives. Not of the intellect…which is where ALL of your, ‘expressed’ understanding is located. I know you will fight to comprehend that…It would be like your reflection speaking to you from the mirror. But this IS the time of the ‘unveiling’. If you can make your ‘pretend’ humility a true emotion, and not just another tool to use ‘against’ Your own realization…you’ve got a little time left.
maxwell
“give myself to the Holy spirit” where is that found??? Is that a new doctrine you just came up with??
First – I do not own my self — I am a bond slave to my Master Jesus Christ, HE BOUGHT AND PAID for me I am His to do with as He pleases. I am surrendering my will to HIS will — I can do nothing on my own and I hate my will — my will is death.
Maxwell you have your own religion your own doctrine and when I question them you call me names.
I can not and will not tell you what you believe is truth when it is NOT!
Maxwell
you are judging me — I am not judging you — all I am attempting to do is point out false doctrines and explaining what the results will be for following false doctrines.
I simply write the words of our savior that explain that those christians that follow the way of lawlessness i.e. iniquity will be locked out of the kingdom — and for that you judge me??
do you also want Christ to take back those words???
…seeker without recognizing that Christ, YHVH and the Holy spirit are one person…Your entire doctrine is completely untrustworthy…I am not judging you, I’m just telling you that I can’t trust you or your doctrine.
…I’m not judging you about anything. I told you a long time ago I recognize your passion, but, anybody accepting your doctrine would be accepting the spiritual limitations you have accepted.
…Because you can’t make the connection between YHVH and Christ with their COMMON Spirit…there’s just no way you can know what’s going on with the spiritual quickening that’s happening right now…even though I know you can FEEL something going on…
…all the small children I know exhibit this realization…openly… accepting it as what their life is all about…they have nothing to compare…They are more at home in the Holy Spirit than anyone else.
…I believe that you really aren’t as stiffnecked and un-inspired as you like to believe you are…but, you will have to make that determination for yourself.
…I don’t want to believe that someone like yourself who has put so much concentrated effort into his ‘religious’ expression, can’t make the connection of the truth of the “generous”, glorious presence of the Spirit of Christ/YHVH, right here on this planet…right now…Filling HIS elect. And fulfilling prophecy.
maxwell
I have spent years studying that doctrine and found it is a doctrine of demons,
as an additional proof – If the Catholic church teaches it it can not be right.
“give myself to the Holy spirit” where is that found??? Is that a new doctrine you just came up with??
…No son, its the reality of what’s going on, now.
First – I do not own my self — I am a bond slave to my Master Jesus Christ, HE BOUGHT AND PAID for me I am His to do with as He pleases. I am surrendering my will to HIS will — I can do nothing on my own and I hate my will — my will is death.
…sooner or later you’re gonna have to take resposibility for your own beliefs.
Maxwell you have your own religion your own doctrine and when I question them you call me names.
I live in reality…. not MY OWN INTERPRETATION, of holy scripture.
…I’ve not called you any names…I’m telling you what I see. you’re not getting soft and sensitive are ya?
…If you don’t want the Holy Spirit Its no skin off my nose…your stiffnecked attitude frees me from responsibility.
I can not and will not tell you what you believe is truth when it is NOT!
…Well, since you believe that YOUR interpretation is the end all and be all of God, then I guess you’re gonna be ‘right’ no matter the facts.
maxwell
If they be ONE then please explain these scriptures.
20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
And no mention of the Spirit here just the Father and the Son.
…seeker… you might as well just accept that your seeking is over, you’ve gone as far as you can. Its all done…nothing new to discover.
..that this glorious “unveiling” is having zero spiritual effect, on your consciousness. I find that hard to believe, but that’s what you are telling me. too bad…so sad.
“give myself to the Holy spirit” where is that found??? Is that a new doctrine you just came up with??
First – I do not own my self — I am a bond slave to my Master Jesus Christ, HE BOUGHT AND PAID for me I am His to do with as He pleases. I am surrendering my will to HIS will — I can do nothing on my own and I hate my will — my will is death.
Maxwell you have your own religion your own doctrine and when I question them you call me names.
I can not and will not tell you what you believe is truth when it is NOT!
…seeker..If they be ONE then please explain these scriptures………..
…I’m just trying to convey what is actually happening. To me its got nothing to do with private interpretations or personal beliefs. Its REAL. FACT.
…You, apparently know everything you ‘want’ to believe already…no reason to seek ever again…huh? OK. that is that. I can live with it.
…seeker…just remember Satan comes first, and we all face death. one time…. here on earth.
The Bible, maxwell, do you have one, do you read it, are you ashamed of it, why will you not read to us the verses that make your case?
Shall i understand “grinding” to be a euphemism for whining about how mean we all are and pouting when no one gives a damn for your opinion?
Judgement, maxwell, looks like this…
“If you can make your ‘pretend’ humility a true emotion,”
… irrespective you disguise it as a rhetorical question and you did so call Truthseeker a “charismatic”.
Facts, maxwell, you haven’t presented any. Your opinion is only factual to you and it is arrogance defined to expect anyone to give a flying rats arse for your opinion.
Facts like…
1) – Where is it written that the Son is the Father?
2) – Where is it written “Give yourself to the Holy Spirit”?
… put up or shut up.
Now then this will not do…
“To me its got nothing to do with private interpretations or personal beliefs. Its REAL. FACT.”
… for you too, maxwell, are under the same commandment as everyone else here.
The heart of the righteous ponders how to answer (pr 15:28) and is always prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks him to explain the hope that he has (1pe 3:15). With salty/gracious speech, as befits the circumstance (col 4:6), gently reproving those who oppose him in the hope that God may grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth (2ti 2:25).
…seeker..you asked – “Where is it written that the Son is the Father?.”
…John 10:30..(red letter) “I and the Father are one.”
…then read the whole of John 14…if you you don’t get it…you just don’t want to..
..its still all up to you…You either want the the Holy spirit and believe in Him, or you don’t, and I don’t care any more what you think or believe… with your “laying on of hands” charismatic B.S. It don’t work that way.
…You’ll never be happy seeker.
…I see the Truth… it is simple and direct. It is perfect…and it takes the kind of FAITH you have sought your whole ‘religious’ life, and not Found.
…So…YOU shut the hell up.
…seeker…”If as you “say” doing the will of the Father is “accepting His forgiveness and assuming the Spirit” ( and I have no clue what “assuming the Spirit” means because it can not be found in the Word)
…and you have zero common sense…wise man.
…”THEN how did Christ who was sinless “accept the Father’s forgiveness”?? What was Christ forgiven of??? HE WAS SINLESS!’
…You are comparing your condition with Christ’s? heresy.
Christ IS YHVH.
…The rest of your post there is proof you have not assumed Christ’s sacrifice as your own…To the pure all things are pure. To the unforgiven..all bear his sin. logic.
…Water Baptism is earthly, but a promise of the baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT…which you reject.
…The Holy Spirit is give by the laying on of hands and by That Spirit God the Father impregnates each one HE CALLS with the down payment of eternal life — THAT ONE SPIRIT is a small measure of the Father in us.
…total charismatic crap…are you gonna start talking in tongues, now….that’s gonna be hard to write down…no?
…that’s NOT the way it works. But it IS so freaking “emotional” ain’t it?
Fair enough, maxwell, i’ve re-read the whole of John 14 and can’t, for the life of me, find the part where it says the Father is the Son. In fact, at face value, John 14 seems to clearly speak of there being two in the godhead.
Can John 14:7&9 literally mean “seen” with respect to Exodus 33:20 and John 1:18? If you don’t notice the obvious contradiction, or elephant in the room, then i suppose you can make The Word say whatever you want it to say.
Specifically you referenced John 10:30 but you seem to have forgotten the question because that verse only says Jesus and the Father are one. Unless you would have Jesus blurting out random facts mid discourse then that passage can only relate to snatching sheep from Jesus, or the Father’s, hand. When the contextualityismness is given due consideration John 10:30 does not say that the Father is the Son.
While we’re on the subject of being “one” and considering John 17:21-23 would you also, pantheistically, argue that we are all Father and Son?
Another apparent contradiction you will need to deal with arises from the fact that God cannot be tempted (James 1:13, Heb 4:15) yet Jesus, as the synoptic gospels attest, was tempted.
Twelve additional passages that appear to say the Father is not the Son…
Matt 6:9, 24:36, 26:39, 27:46
John 5:19, 5:26, 5:30, 14:28, 17:21-23
1 Cor 15:27-28
Heb 1:3, 5:7-9
… koanic if nothing else.
As for your doctrine being simple and direct we only have your word for it, maxwell, because you generally refuse to back your opinion with scripture.
The Bible, i recommend it, it’s a story about a father, his preferred son, sibling rivalry and the path to redemption. It’s complicated but if it helps any there is a designer, a builder, a narrow path and the only ghosts in it are not good.
Oh and your answer for the 2nd question, if you please, the one about giving oneself to The Holy Spirit.
maxwell
Mayhem gave you an excellent response and you will not spend any time contemplating it as usual.
Maxwell – ONE — what?? The Father and the Son are ONE and we shall be ONE with both of them! will we be our Father??
Christ did not say “we are the same person”.
Maxwell there IS ONE SPIRIT – and as Christ was raised from death by that ONE Spirit so shall those in the first resurrection be raised by that ONE Spirit and thus we will be ONE with them – All live by that ONE SPIRIT All of that ONE DIVINE HOLY PERFECT NATURE.
Maxwell you keep speaking of a baptism of the spirit, on that First Pentecost the Spirit was “poured out” upon the 120 they were not immersed. Read Joel 2 which Peter quoted. I will pour out of MY spirit says the Father, the 120 were not immersed into it – it was poured upon them and I know you will not grasp this but the Father laid HIS hands upon the 120 that day, the tongues of fire symbolizes the Father fingers,
The Spirit of the Father was put into the 120 by the Fathers own hands and thus from the Father to the apostles to the called.
CRAZY just for once….Hey seeker I’ve always answered ALL your blindness over these yrs
This one is as easy as all that you laid at my feet…
I love God as I UPHOLD THE LAW when I preach Christ Crucified, His Son whom He sent to Fulfill the Law of Moses the Prophets and the psalms to the FULL
You..”crazy you know I am NOT SDA”
What are you then ? a nomad ? What is the name of your ecclesia ? So your a Jew then ?
You….”Just who is it that He is telling to depart??”
PPL like You!
as You have not accepted the Glorious NEW Covenant
To Fulfill ALL righteousness You would NEED to be baptized into the Baptism that Christ was Baptized in by John the Baptist by receiving the “HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD”
THEN the Veil would be removed from your eyes…..and your need to search the Old books of Moses for Eternal life, will be no more.
Crazy you have never answered all I get is your very own doctrines in nut shells that are based upon thin air.
Your just not able to receive it seeker your mired in the “Old Covenant the Ministry of DEATH”
Repent and come over to the LIGHT of the “Glorious New Covenant” and the veil will drop away from your eyes …”anoint thin eyes” so you can see that Y’shua PAID IN FULL @the Cross to ALL that believe.
Bye Zzzz
crazy
what you simply refuse to accept is the “old books of Moses” Were spoken to Moses FROM the mouth of God ALMIGHTY.
All Moses did was write down the Words God Spoke.
THEY ARE THE SPOKEN WORDS OF GOD NOT MOSES.
And you are telling me that I MUST NOT LIVE BY EVERY WORD OF GOD
AND THAT MR CRAZY I WILL NEVER DO.
But you have repeatedly refused to LIVE BY EVER WORD OF GOD AS CHRIST TOLD US TO DO.
In the 2nd resurrection when you are brought back to physical life the resurrected Saints of God will instruct you in that WAY in which you will walk.
Jesus Christ comes to rule with a ROD of IRON.
NotInJudah
Burn
mayhem
your logic is strong — I love it.
I do not think many understand, Christ used logic to confound His adversary’s.
MAYHEM wrote @Crazy-times@maxwell: It’s a simple enough question…
“point out the error in the statements [Matt 7:21-23] of Jesus Christ”
The Error is Never in the “WORD” he quotes, it’s in
his interpretation “worker of Iniquity” to him confirms HIS wisdom 
as he infers it’s ALL the Churches (“NOT HIM”) as I’m sure you do, when it only means some.
Workers of Iniquity means those whom have an agenda….like “coining” it in, living on the Hog, AKA.. Gt Pretenders , FAKERS i
example
Imho NO CHRISTIAN group should be working for say, InterFaith (“idealism becomes the new realism”), like the foundation below …aim is for a one-world religion eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair_Faith_Foundation
look under christian…..these are workers of Iniquity.. imho
(there are other workers of iniquity of course)
I didn’t mean to imply that Jesus, or the Bible, was mistaken which you damn well know, Crazy times, and saying as much indicates you have no real argument. Sure my comment certainly reads that way but i obviously restrict myself to the context in which Truthseeker posed the question.
So then, as i must, let me be most certain…
Does Matthew 7:23 say “lawless” or not? G458 – anomia – lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin. From G3551 – nomos – a law, the Mosaic Law.
… which law?
But of course “they” have an agenda, talk about stating the obvious, yet as it is written we are told exactly who “they” will be so we don’t really need your spin on it although i do agree your example would appear to fit the bill.
The pity is, Crazy times, so does your doctrine.
…Mayhem/seeker…I did find an egregious error. Its not in scripture. It is in contained and defined in the very title of this article…the word is ‘abolished’…I can’t recall ever saying that the LAW was ever abolished. Not one word of scripture can ever be abolished…It IS the WORD. In fallible and eternal…that is seeker’s private idea…a way to to feel secure in the face of “revelation” that he cannot recognize or comprehend.
…although he cannot shake the knowledge that something’s going on, he can’t quite put his finger on it. It is apparent to me that both of you are fighting against the reality of the unveiling. The truth of who YOU as individuals, really are, and exactly what time it is. Without the quickening of the Holy Spirit, this knowledge/wisdom will not/can not, light upon anyone…
…It’s Christ’s party…and somewhere in your being you have filed away the invitation that was sent to each of you, personally. Open that invitation and show up for the celebration….or stay in your closet , and read about how “spiritually” glorious it is.. instead.
…Your whole adult lives spent waiting for this moment, and there you are…beating your breast, willfully, purposely, ignoring the reality, of the Holy Spirit of Christ/YHVH pouring out on the world.
…Is it fear, that keeps you from this realization…do you really think that after all these years of dedicated study, that you can, still, be deceived? You’re scared the spirit moving in the world right now IS NOT OF YHVH? That its the boogy man come to steal your soul?
…There’s no way you are not feeling it, right this minute…IT IS TIME.
What’s ur argument now MAYHEM ?
I already know your doctrine is a LAWl-YER and like seeker u make MUCH of the LAW, that’s your calling, so be it
We come as we are called.
I’ve answered appropriately the “workers of iniquity” = lawlessness and I gave an example BUT to say ALL CHURCH BELIEVERS are Lawless is just dumb as WHEN they’ve been” Born Again” they’re placed INTO the “BODY of CHRIST” they’re released from the “Ministry of Death” which ALL men are under whom practice lawlessness.
MY DOCTRINE ? you say hahaha hoolie doolie
I’m called to the “Glorious New Covenant” ONLY
I know no answer I give will please Lawyers as like in the real world Lawyers Twist and argue about words, that’s their job.
crazy
I do not accept “YOUR” definition of the Word Iniquity.
I put in the paper Strong’s definition which is LAWLESSNESS
“INIQUITY”
Strong’s # 458
anomia: lawlessness
Original Word: ἀνομία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: anomia
Phonetic Spelling: (an-om-ee’-ah)
Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity
Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin.
HELPS Word-studies
458 anomía (from 1 /A “not” and 3551 /nómos, “law”) – properly, without law;
lawlessness; the utter disregard for God’s law (His written and living Word).
Where did you even get the idea that iniquity means those that have an agenda?
crazy — you twist the WORD of God to mean what you demand it to mean!
seeker” “Lawyers Twist and
argue about words, that’s their job.”
Here’s ur Proof
maxwell
I did not write this paper for you!!
The paper was written for all on BIN that do demand that Christ abolish HIS LAW.
Ask crazy he will tell you the Old Testament is done and gone.
Have you not read the false statement that Christ took the Law and nailed it to His Stake and TOOK it away??
AND maxwell if as you state ” not one word of scripture can be abolished” what do you do with the Torah?? the Torah that gives us the LAW of God and commands we obey it?
LOGIC is LOGIC : 2 + 2 must equal 4.
If the Torah was not abolished why are you not studying and obeying the Torah as Christ commands us to do?
…seeker you write all your stuff for yourself…Just like i listen to my own recordings of my songs…with my friends.
…We can admire our own creation…sometimes as a critique, and sometimes cause we just need our own brain tickled….right? “See what I did!!”
…I didn’t ever think you wrote this letter to me personally…
…………Oh the vanity
seeker :I do not accept “YOUR” definition of the Word Iniquity.
seeker wrote: “Where did you even get the idea that iniquity means those that have an agenda?”
The example I gave (lawlessness) was of so called Christian groups who have an “agenda of Lawlessness” by stealing contributions from REAL believers, living in Luxury because “God wants the best for them”, falsely prophesying FAKEing belief by working against the WORD, for there OWN interest.
They are the workers of iniquity.
Zzzzz
…seeker wrote,”Have you not read the false statement that Christ took the Law and nailed it to His Stake and TOOK it away??
…I don’t think any body ever said that either. That’s a lie meant to deflect attention away from your own endless sin. You are the ‘accusor’….in spades…what else do you twist?
…The Sinful character of Christians was nailed to the cross with Christ. We have the entire LAW as our spiritual guide forever in our heart of hearts…the HOLY Spirit. remember what took place at Pentecost…that was just the beginning….that was the WHOLE point of the ENTIRE new covenant…you pitiful example of faithless “religion”.
…You told me one time that you reject all religion, as I do…what do you call what you are laying down right here, right now? I call it RELIGION…seeker. plain old ‘religious crapola’.
maxwell and crazy
…”The Sinful character of Christians was nailed to the cross with Christ”.
With confused statements like the example above which you both have repeatedly come up with — it is very clear you do not at all understand even the basics of the doctrines of Christ.
If you both do not understand the work Christ performed for man at the stake — of course nothing I or anyone can say will make sense.
You reject the clear words of Christ so it is very understandable you will reject my words and that is fine — BUT you will explain one day why you rejected HIS!
Yes, Crazy times, i did agree but i also took the trouble to reposition your assertion in consequential rather than causative terms. Must i explain how words work to you?
You did so define iniquity…
“Workers of Iniquity means those whom have an agenda….like “coining” it in, living on the Hog, AKA.. Gt Pretenders , FAKERS”
… and went on to give an example. FFS mate WTF?
Further more your proffered definition removed all reference to the law which, in my opinion, is exactly what Matt 7:21-23 is all about. If a wise man were to say to me that the bad guys will have an agenda i’d be likely to reply “No [redacted] Sherlock!”. Will you have Jesus taking believers for fools?
Perhaps you have never used the word “abolished”, maxwell, but i did find where you said…
“the complete obsolescence of the old system of laws”
/spirit/2016/01/old-testament-law-fulfilled-in-jesus-christ-the-lawmaker-2498866.html
“All the ritual O.T. doctrines were valid till Christ (God Himself) made all things new.”
/christian-news/2016/03/under-the-old-testament-law-the-new-law-of-christ-is-spiritually-discerned-and-therein-lays-the-reason-for-the-confusion-2523657.html
“There is no ceremony, ritual or tradition, that is appropriate. The Holy Spirit has superseded, them all.”
/spirit/2016/03/was-the-torah-abolished-are-you-risking-your-life-on-what-others-have-told-you-2500315.html
“Your statutes were hung on the cross with Christ.”
/spirit/2016/04/should-christians-keep-the-sabbath-2500774.html
“the Holy Word of God…has been made moot.”
/spirit/2016/02/why-do-those-claiming-to-be-christians-willingly-embrace-a-doctrine-that-falsely-represents-jesus-christ-as-teaching-lies-2499714.html
… in threads, where you spoke in support, which were entirely about the law being abolished with many of them titled as such. You clearly believe the Law was done away with so who is being the lawyer now?
MAYHEM wrote….FFS mate WTF?
Sooooo much anger steady on old boy !!!
“by their fruit we will know them”
chill out this is fairyland down here no-one cares
Yours and seekers Wolf pack semantics mean nothing to me Dr Watson
Oh I forget, it’s YOU who as an agenda, just remembered . here it is in your proud Bio MAYHEM
MAYHAM Quote..”I suggest, it is only to those who have not considered whose agenda and intent it is that I serve. ”
I know WHO YOU serve Mr Wolf….Your the Hound of the Baskervilles.
Dr Kavorkian
Not one word of scripture can ever be abolished…It IS the WORD
=======
Not one jot or tittle until
Implies it will be
If you say so, Crazy times, but at least i wasn’t caught lying like you were.
Lying about what Scripture says and lying about what you had said. A double whammy if you will.
Liar
…testing…1234
maxwell
do you know why I continue to trade comments with you and crazy???
So others can see the foolishness and the lack of logic in your beliefs.
I quote a scripture and you and crazy make up stuff.
…A test of the civildefense testing 12234
Ps.
crazy you know I am NOT SDA, or ADS, or DAS or SSDAS or what ever — I simply Follow Jesus Christ as HE follows our FATHER as Jesus commands His followers to do.
destdined2B???
Here is a great opportunity for you to jump right in and “correct” the quotes of Jesus Christ, explain what Christ “secretly” means in these 3 scriptures, Scriptures that accuse you of lying and being told to “depart from ME” because you work iniquity — you hate the HOLY LAW of GOD.
destined2Blost — I welcome your comments,, why do you hold back –your articles state YOU KNOW THE TRUTH because YOU can speak in demonic languages.
Deathseeker
You are not in Judah Demon.
Nothing you are ranting about in your FROM HELL posts has ANY meaning.
OMFG I hope people aren’t that simpleton? Those have nothing to do with the LAW or anything of the sort.
Not all who say Lord Lord is only talking about people who by their mouth or by being Baptisted but not doing the lords will wont make it. those are what you call lip service Christians. They are also more than likely Luke warm and Give their power unto the beast any how.
those that say have we not prophesied in thy name etc…. aren’t all Christians also, because even secular people use scripture for their own world. gun control activists fall into that group.
Those that wont admit Romans 13 was mistranslated at the very least will fall into that group. Most conservatives who say they follow Christ will.
No the law wasn’t done away with but it was changed into the two great commandments.
1. Love God with all your heart.
2. Love one another as you love yourself.
patriot156
So you are saying Christ changed the OLD law and replaced it with the New Law: the two great Commandments —-WHICH CHRIST QUOTED FROM THE TORAH? Quoted from the OLD LAW??
Deuteronomy 6: 5
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Deuteronomy 30: 6
6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Leviticus 19
18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
Luke 10: 25 – 27,
25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 22
34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
In Verse 40 Christ is stating on the two great commandments i.e. precepts hang or are the foundation of —- ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.
How is it you can not understand the very clear words of Jesus Christ??
All of the Law found in the Torah, the 5 books of Moses, and the prophets have as their foundation love God and love your fellow man.
The two great commandments are the summation of all of GOD’s Holy Law, the two foundational principles upon which God has founded His plan of salvation and HIS WAY of LIFE.
And in the paper you commented upon Jesus Christ is clearly stating you are working iniquity if you do not obey the LAW. You are called LAWLESS.
If you do not comprehend this simple concept that is between you and our Father, no man can open your mind.
Patriot156
Here are the Words of Jesus Christ — is He judgmental as well? Will you condemn Him ??
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
Jesus Christ love LOGIC!!!
22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation
sorry Patriot156 that was meant for maxwell
Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, WHOEVER OF YOU ARE JUSTIFIED BY LAW; YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE. Galatians 5:2-4
swordof
the Covenant of circumcision is not in the old or the new contract/covenant– it never was a part of either. it was the seal of the contract with Abraham that his seed would be given the promised land.
Please show us where it is stated by any scripture the even one person can be justified by the Law?
there is only one way to be reconciled back to the Father or to be justified or to be forgiven of our sins— that only way is the washing by the blood of Jesus Christ our Passover.
There is no reward for a servant that obeys his master, it is the duty of the slave or servant to obey the law or commands of his master. We are rewarded for our works, not for obeying God’s Perfect Holy Law.
Paul explains that the blood of bulls and goats can never justify a single person only the blood of Christ but the Jews looks to animal sacrificial for justification.
Christ ended the sacrificial law that was added after the signing of the old covenant, the sacrificial laws are the Works of the Law.
Sword
The demonic cretin troothytits is just banging on ‘Law’ pots as a disguise for his increasingly desperate need to get Christians out of Judah.
Friend, I never expressed or implied such. The law justifies no man. There’s one that justifies and it is Jesus Christ.
For by Grace are ye saved through faith: and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Eph 2:8
swordof truth no offense taken.
Most attack anything that has to do with God’s law and I was not sure how to take your comment.
And I understand, our Father showered me with His kindness (grace) by allowing the Blood of His first born to pay for all my sins which are many.
May be we should consider Jesus as a loving person. Wouldn’t he love each of his children like any father, and wouldn’t ask them to depart away or hell? See a bit also psychics, channelers and yogis may be they know something also, as they seem to love him so dearly that they write books about him, sing to him and even keep talks about him. You may want to see more; /spirit/2016/05/jesus-and-israel-never-die-2502435.html
didianna
We are brothers to Christ, He is not our Father
psychics, channelers and yogis all work with demons — evil spirits —- run away
Christ IS love but He is not the weak sort of homosexual limp wrist nice fellow that folks want Him to be when He returns He will come as a warrior King and HE will slay millions of HIS enemies.
Read Ezekiel 39, it is going to take the nations of Israel 7 months to clean up the bones of those Christ will slay.
it is going to take the nations of Israel
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No Israel outside of Judah Iron Rodded to be.
Beforeitisnews
I know you are doing this for money which is fine –but — your ads blowing me off page every 2 minutes is not at all fun.
Please find another way that is not so distracting that I lose my contractions, and want to quit posting comments.
One of the fellas told me to download adblocker plus. It’s free. It took literally three seconds to download and it completely solved the problem.
This page alone has 14 blocked ads and it runs just as smooth as it did when the site was new.
Try it out.
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thanks Beef that is exactly with I have been needing.. I am installing it now.
Yeah it’s showing me that I’m blocking 14 adds too in the upper right corner of my browser. I can’t believer I didn’t know about that sooner. It made this site go from nearly unusable to flowing really fast.
I don’t understand why advertisers would even bother to pay what they do to have ads posted when they can be so easily thwarted by a simple program.
Do you think they still have to pay BIN for our traffic if we can’t see the ads? Just something I’ve been wondering about.
It is written in the Maxwell Crazy Version.
If you love me, CONSIDER my commandments John 14:15 (MCV)
Nevertheless in the KJV
Mat_19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Mathew 19:17 KJV
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 12:17 KJV
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Revelation 14:12 KJV
Buck …. “Maxwell Crazy Version”
That’s what seeker wrote 2 yrs ago and he thought that was a good enough reply
matey, we’ve been around the block on this (2) commandments Love God and ur Neighbor.
reply to Mat_19:17….
When one is Born Again HE writes them (Laws) on our Hearts forever, taken off the stone and placed INTO us.
Revelation 14:12 KJV……………The Woman is “Israel” her seed are the “remnant Elect of Physical Israel”, dragon was wroth = “Jacobs Trouble” against those
WHOM Keep the Commandments of God to this day (Jewish) and BECAUSE of the 144.000 and (2) witnesses for “JACOBS TROUBLE” ….THEY HAVE BEEN CONVERTED
Why do you think God sent them ?
NOW THEY HAVE “the faith of Jesus Christ” , that’s WHY they’re NOW called saints..
I have found a great website, it starts with what we all know, but then it really goes deep. Find out what Churches no longer preach. THE TRUTH AND NO FURTHER LIES I can recommend this site to everyone.
IT CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE
http://onlyaservant.wix.com/in-spirit-and-truth
the first church council as recorded in acts 15 says that gentiles are not under the law…specifically the food laws and ritual laws were abolished…if you say we are still under the law, let me ask you a question? when is the last time you made a pilgrimage to jerusalem during the feast days? Paul wrote that all things are lawful, but not all are edifying in 1 Cor.6:12. Eat all the bacon wrapped shrimp you want. There is no sin in it, other than the sin of cholesterol poisoning of your body (poor stewardship)….
The moral law was given by God as part of the covenant with Noah. Murder, adultery, idolatry, disrespect of parents, etc, have been against God’s law long before Moses came down from Mt Sinai with the tablets. God re-issued those commandments for the people of the covenant. The moral law still stands since it predates the Old Covenant. People who practice lawlessness and do not repent are “workers of iniquity”.
This is serious business. There are no persistent sinners who will not repent in Heaven. The people in Heaven, the overcomers, are all FORGIVEN SINNERS. See the lists in 1 Cor 6: 9-10 and Revelation (22:15; 21:8) of the people who do not make it to heaven.
jknbt
The Law is a stumbling stone because man does not want to be told what they can or can not do.
We can walk through the book of Matthew and Christ in His own words will tell you He did not come to destroy the Law He came to expand it.
He will tell you if you want eternal life -Keep the commandments.
He will tell you to do what those that sit in the seat of Moses teach from the Torah, but do not do as they do — On and on,
I have placed paper after paper on BIN and 99% reject the Words of Jesus Christ and Moses and the Prophets etc.
When in Revelation Jesus Christ makes this statement why will you not believe HIM??
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
and according to the prophets when Christ returns the LAW will be taught to the entire world.
Micah 4:2 Many nations will come and say, “Come, let us go up to …
… the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths:
for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. …
Isaiah 2:3 Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to …
… God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion the law shall go forth, and the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem. …
The Torah reveals the Divine Holy righteous Nature of God and we are to observe every single word of it.
And it is as perfectly obvious to all other real Christians as it was to St Paul that it is ONLY the stumbling block of being outwith Judah being demonic that is what attracts you to Mosaic Law. Online demon worshippers crapola.
YES THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. The Bible is very clear on that. Here is a site that explains nicely and you can follow all the scripture references. It is as written.
http://onlyaservant.wix.com/in-spirit-and-truth
I would like to see you argue against this from a Biblical point.
Apart from introducing 1 John 2:22-23 and John 8:19 & 8:23-24, none of which say that the Father is the Son or that there is only one god, everything else in your link has indeed been argued against within this thread.
Yes there is but one God and none besides but Isaiah 43:10-11 & 45:5 would better make the case which your web offering did not do. He is Ye’shua/Yahweh or Jesus/God but scripture reads like He is not the Father.
uglydumpling
neither Mayhem nor I care much what some person has to say — What the Word of God has to say is the whole of the matter — remember the verse –all men are liars?
I desire to learn Spiritual Truth from our Father not some man.
I once asked a doctor if 5 doctors gave an opinion of some sick person’s problem, how many different opinion would there be and he answered 7!
If you ask 50 so called christians there opinion on a doctrine you will get 100 different opinions.
beforeitsnews —I am still getting the pop up page once every few minutes and some times I have to log off just to get rid of it —- really????
This is very bothersome — very!!!!
No-one else has any probs maybe a SIGN ?
Crazy
you have poked a me for beings “very legal”, do you not know what Paul said ” we have an advocate with the Father” do you know what an advocate is?? an attorney.
Jesus Christ is our legal advocate (attorney) to present our case to the Father — because the FATHER is LAW!
Every single action the Father and Christ takes is 100% Torah LEGAL.
Matey your an Orphan your father is the devil atm, you’ve NO ekklesia NO “GOD the Holy Spirit” as you say “He” does not exist
.. 
(HE) whom speaks to the “CHURCHES” which YOU HATE btw … 
You’re not “Born Again” the Spirit you’ve received is NOT the one delivered unto the Saint , you have another Spirit. 
Look in the mirror It’s seeker who is “Lawless” repent and accept a covering for your disobedience in REJECTING the “Glorious New COVENANT”
What is the Name of this branch or Creed of truth you espouse ?
And lets not overlook your “Spock like LOGIC” Hahahah
hum.. this needs re-calibrating asap
seeker…the nearest family to you is Your
Father In-LAW …
The Churches have NEVER held your position EVER …go ask them !!
The CHURCHES “UPHOLD the LAW” when we preach “Christ Crucified” as He did what the flesh could NOT do.