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Jesus Banned Rapture from Famous Uganda Pastor

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This famous Uganda Pastor Saw many souls come to Christ. He also saw miracles of healing and deliverance throughout the years of his ministry. Only to be shocked when Jesus told him “if I came today to take my Bride … I WOULD NOT TAKE YOU.” Make sure that you are prepared for the rapture!



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    • HypothesisFree

      If Jesus is truly as good as Christians claim, he will not answer prayers of anyone who eats meat from slaughtered animals, because that is 100% psychopathic behavior.

      If most of humanity were not exhibiting 100% psychopathic behavior on a daily basis, then perhaps we would not be in this mess in the first place. Me thinks humanity has made its own bed in this regard . . .

      Eating meat from slaughtered animals is a 100% psychopathic behavior, and as such puts the general population on par ethically with the Rothschild Zionist fake Jew political elites. How can we expect the political elites to treat us ethically, when we are not even ethical ourselves?

      Psychopathic behavior begets psychopathic behavior, and so there you have it in a nutshell – humanity is doomed.

      Veganism is nothing more and nothing less than living in accordance with the golden rule. It is the ONLY possible path away from tyranny, violence, and the destruction of the human race.

      Remember also God’s commandment “Thou shall not kill” which includes the unnecessary killing of animals (according to the original Bible language, which is why it has been translated to “kill” as opposed to “murder” in the KJV). I am not aware of even one medical doctor who has made the argument that humans in general, or ANY human for that matter, needs to eat meat for survival.

      • FAT AXL!!!

        “If Jesus is truly as good as Christians claim, he will not answer prayers of anyone who eats meat from slaughtered animals…”

        Well, the Bible specifically prohibits us eating the animals while they’re still alive. So we have to slaughter them before we eat them. You’re not actually suggesting we don’t eat animals, are you? If God didn’t want me to eat animals, He wouldn’t have made em out of MEAT!!!

        “…because that is 100% psychopathic behavior.”

        Says you. I happen to think that walking past a freshly-grilled ribeye steak with a little salt, some garlic and butter drizzled over the top, WITHOUT taking a great big bite out of it, is 100% psychopathic behavior. So? Which one of us is right? You only get one vote. But I get a vote also. I mean, you don’t actually think you’re the ultimate arbiter of truth, do you?

        “If most of humanity were not exhibiting 100% psychopathic behavior on a daily basis, then perhaps we would not be in this mess in the first place.”

        Well, sure. That makes perfect sense. If we didn’t eat delicious grilled steaks and burgers on a daily basis, there would be no wars, no hunger, no disease, no bad weather, no crime, no car accidents, no child molestation… I mean, is that really what you think? If you ate a steak occasionally, you’d be able to think much more clearly than that.

        “Me thinks humanity has made its own bed in this regard…”

        What sort of an assclown still says ‘me thinks’ in the 21st century?

        “Eating meat from slaughtered animals is a 100% psychopathic behavior…”

        You said that already. Please stop it. You’re making me very hungry for a nice juicy steak.

        “…and as such puts the general population on par ethically with the Rothschild Zionist fake Jew political elites.”

        So you think because I dig on porterhouse I’m in the same league with the bloodthirsty Rothschilds? Whew. It’s a good thing you’re not in charge.

        “How can we expect the political elites to treat us ethically, when we are not even ethical ourselves?”

        Good question. Are you an ethical person? Do you practice sound ethics every moment of every day? Why, you must be some sort of saint!!!

        “Psychopathic behavior begets psychopathic behavior, and so there you have it in a nutshell – humanity is doomed.”

        Humanity is doomed, friend. But most assuredly not because we gnaw on the seared flesh of dead animals.

        “Veganism is nothing more and nothing less than living in accordance with the golden rule.”

        Did you know that imposing a vegan diet on children in Italy has just been criminalized? That’s right, friend. It is a CRIME to make children abstain from meat in certain countries in this world. Sounds to me like plenty of folks don’t agree with you.

        “It is the ONLY possible path away from tyranny, violence, and the destruction of the human race.”

        Only someone whose brain is starved for healthy nutrients could ever even utter such an absurd statement.

        “Remember also God’s commandment “Thou shall not kill”…”

        Please. GOD told us to eat the animals. Don’t even pretend to use God’s Instructions to support your outrageous nonsense. I’ll eat your lunch if you do that. At least, I’ll eat it as a side dish right next to my steaming STEAK!!!

        “…which includes the unnecessary killing of animals (according to the original Bible language, which is why it has been translated to “kill” as opposed to “murder” in the KJV).”

        Clearly you have never read the King James Version in its entirety, even once.

        “I am not aware of even one medical doctor who has made the argument that humans in general, or ANY human for that matter, needs to eat meat for survival.”

        Here’s one – Dr. Frank Lipman. Quote:

        “I am a big fan of grass-fed meats, and actually recommend it because I believe it is health food for most people.”

        https://medium.com/@drfranklipman/a-doctor-and-a-chef-talk-about-meat-eb832fbc0f5a#.98mrpzn3r

        • 2QIK4U

          I’m STILL NOT RELIGIOUS BUT ISN’T THERE A “THOU SHALL NOT KILL”? THE ENTIRE BIBLE IS A HYPOCRITICAL FEARY TALE THAT’S NOT EVEN WRITTEN BY THE TRUE AUTHOR. NO WONDER CEASER THREW SO MANY OF YOU TO LION’S. HE’S HITLARY’s GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GRAMPAPPY , DOH! :lol:

          • FAT AXL!!!

            You might actually obtain a copy of the Bible and read it. Very often it is beneficial to first have read a book prior to critiquing it.

            • DistantCousin

              Simply, and correctly Stated.

              Thank You,
              RR.

        • HypothesisFree

          Is it not the case that ANY sin in the context of Christianity would set humanity on its course towards total destruction?

          In the original glory of the garden of edin, there was only vegetarianism on the face of the earth. This was followed by the glory of God forfeited through sin, which was followed at the cross by the hope for a restored glory of God, which as clearly described in the Bible will ultimately restore all saved Christians to be solely vegetarian forever more…

          See “God’s End Time Vegetarian Diet: Bible Truth or Human Invention?”
          - http://greatcontroversy.org/reportandreview/qua-romans14pt2.php

          “It is interesting to see who God selected to have join Him with His Son at the transfiguration of Christ (Matthew 17:1-3). Moses and Elijah were honored to join with the Father and the Son in that glorious event. Moses represented all those who will die and then be resurrected to everlasting life (Jude 9). Elijah represented all those who will be translated at the Second Coming without seeing death. Both Moses and Elijah ate a vegetarian diet in their later years. For both, a vegetarian diet was God’s prescribed diet while here on earth.”

          “While vegetarianism is not a common practice in current western Christian thought and culture, the concept and practice has scriptural and historical support. According to the Bible, in the beginning, before the Fall, human and nonhuman animals, which are beings that have or are an änima, Latin for soul,[6][7] were completely vegetarian, and “it was very good”.[Genesis 1:29-31]”
          - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism

          - Proverbs 12:10 KJV “A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.”

          - Isaiah 66:3 KJV “He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man”

          - Acts 15:29 NIV “You are to abstain … from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.” [Please also note that there are no procedures in place, not even kosher, which can assure the removal of all blood from meat. In fact many Jews such as Dr Richard Schwartz of Staten Island believe that it is impossible to drain all the blood out of tiny capillaries. And since this is a New Testament command, it cannot be argued that it was nailed to the cross as were the ceremonial [non-ten commandments] laws of the Old Testament.]

          - Exodus 20:13 KJV “Thou shalt not kill” [There are no other surrounding qualifiers, so as stated here (supposedly by one of God's chosen translation servants), it apparently applies to all sentient lifeforms, which would include animals].

          - Proverbs 23:20 World English Bible “Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat”

          - Genesis 1:29-30 KJV “29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.”

          - Isaiah 65:25 KJV “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.”

          - Job 5:23 KJV “For thou shalt be in league with the stones of the field: and the beasts of the field shall be at peace with thee.”

          - Isaiah 7:14-15 “Therefore, the Lord himself shall give you a sign–Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and shall bear a son and call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil and to choose the good. One interpretation of the butter and honey is that Christ would belong to a lower socio-economic class. However, some vegetarians believe that refusing the evil and choosing the good means refusing to consume animal flesh.

          So the Bible seems to make the point within the passages quoted above, that world peace is not possible when sentient beings of any species (including humans) are eating meat. Keeping in mind these Bible passages, how then can the Bible also condone the eating of meat? Some Christians may say that God cursed the world in this way when sin entered the world to remind us daily that the consequence of sin is death. Others may cite this as psychopathic/unloving/disconnected thinking (because, for example, what sin did vegetarian cows commit to justify slaughter by meat eaters?). The Bible does teach that there was no death, even of animals, prior to sin – ( http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2010/03/02/satan-the-fall-good-evil-could-death-exist-before-sin ). So if sin alone causes death, even of animals, and Christians are to refrain from sin, then it would seem anomalous for the Bible to ever condone the eating of meat. Could it be that the Bible was modified in this way for political and/or Illuminatti Satanically inspired reasons?

          That the Bible has been modified is certainly not a new concept. For example “The Book of Enoch was considered as Scripture in the Epistle of Barnabas (16:4) and by many of the early Church Fathers, such as Athenagoras, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus and Tertullian, who wrote c. 200 that the Book of Enoch had been rejected by the Jews because it contained prophecies pertaining to Christ. However, later Fathers denied the canonicity of the book, and some even considered the letter of Jude uncanonical because it refers to an “apocryphal” work.
          By the 4th century, the Book of Enoch was mostly excluded from Christian canons, and it is now regarded as scripture by only the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Eritrean Orthodox Church.”
          - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

          Also, “a letter written by Clement, the third bishop of Rome, was considered as scripture for nearly two hundred years, as were seven letters written by Ignatius, who was the bishop of Antioch early in the second century. Also, there was a book called The Shepherd of Hermas and another called The Teachings of the Twelve Apostles that were also approved as scripture by the Church.”
          - http://www.14lds.com/judas.htm

          However, the Bible declares:

          - “As for God, his way [or method of inspiring scripture] is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless….” (Psalm 18:30)

          - “All scripture is given by inspiration of God.” (2 Timothy 3:16)

          - “… I [God] will put my words in his [the prophet's] mouth” (Deuteronomy 18:18)

          If this is true, then what has been inspired and later recognized as scripture (through God’s perfect word for word way of inspiring scripture) cannot change or arbitrarily be thrown out (not even under the pretext that it was not inspired), for any Christian canon, because we have been assured right in the Bible itself that all officially recognized Christian scripture was already perfect to begin with. The Bible also proclaims that Gods words will not pass away (Mark 13:31).

          Granted, the Bible also states in Deuteronomy that there will be false prophets who will claim to speak inspired words of God. However, to be clear, many ‘inspired words of God’ (spoken by prophets) are not considered to be ‘Bible scripture’ – these are not one and the same. So it would be patently false to conclude that the Bible is saying here that alleged inspired words of false prophets would EVER be included in any Christian Bible/canon.

          On the other hand, imagine the Bible credibility issues that would be created if Christians were to argue, that words of false prophets would continually attempt to attack, corrupt, or even destroy the Bible, and that at times these blasphemy’s would become part of Bible scripture. And all during this process the Bible would be preached as ‘the perfect word of God’?

          So it seems that no matter how we slice it, historically, there was nothing at all “perfect” about the process of determining for a given time period, what is officially recognized as scripture/truth, and what is not. It has been a wishy washy, arbitrary, contradictory process which can by no stretch of the imagination be considered perfect. In consideration of this it seems anomalous that Christianity claims that the Bible has been perfectly inspired (like what Bible… and like what time period are they talking about? Even in modern times there is not one singularly agreed upon Bible canon throughout all of Christianity) or that God is perfect. If God is perfect, he could, should, and in all likelihood, out of necessity in order for Christians to be able to claim that the Bible is consistent and trustworthy, and true, WOULD have seen to it that there were no attempts to ever alter (or take away from) his so called perfect scripture. Are we not assured, as argued above, that this would never happen?

          Take note also how in modern day Christian Bibles, the book of Jude 1:14 not only quotes (using very similar wordings) from the Book of 1 Enoch, but it also identifies Enoch as a prophet, thereby delineating him as a person who had inspired words of God to share with the public. Fragments of the Book of Enoch found among the Dead Sea scrolls witness to its availability in the Holy land in apostolic times.

          So a question to keep in the back of your mind is, how can anyone really know what is inspired and what is not within the context of Christianity, even for whichever Bible YOU may consider to be truth?

        • HypothesisFree

          Improved version for anyone who may be interested in sharing this with others:

          If Jesus is truly as good as Christians claim, should he be expected to reserve a place in heaven for active murderers, assassins, or for that matter, anyone who serially and unnecessarily eats meat from slaughtered animals, all of which stem from psychopathic/uncaring behavior?

          Psychopathy is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by [amongst other things] impaired empathy and remorse… While the term is often employed in common usage along with the related but distinct “crazy”, “insane” and “mentally ill”, criminal psychology researcher Robert Hare stresses that a clear distinction is known among clinicians and researchers between psychopathic and psychotic individuals: “Psychopaths are not disoriented or out of touch with reality, nor do they experience the delusions, hallucinations, or intense subjective distress that characterize most other mental disorders. Unlike psychotic individuals, psychopaths are rational and aware of what they are doing and why. Their behavior is the result of choice, freely exercised.”
          - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

          Is the majority of humanity exhibiting 100% psychopathic behavior on a daily basis? Is it possible that this type of behavior has played a role in shaping our current world rife with tyranny, violence, and the apparent destruction of the human race (not to mention the destruction of planet earth)? As we will see below, it seems that humanity may have made its own bed in this regard . . .

          Eating meat from slaughtered animals is by definition (see above) a 100% psychopathic behavior, and as such puts the general population on par ethically with the Rothschild Zionist fake Jew political elites. So how can we expect the political elites to treat us ethically, when we are not even ethical ourselves?

          Psychopathic behavior begets psychopathic behavior, and so it would seem that humanity may be doomed/trapped in this regard.

          Veganism is nothing more and nothing less than living in accordance with the golden rule, which is moreover, simply a matter of ethics. In my view, it is the ONLY possible path away from tyranny, violence, and the destruction of the human race.

          Christians should remember God’s commandment “Thou shall not kill” which includes the unnecessary killing of animals (according to the original Bible language, which is why it has been translated to “kill” as opposed to “murder” in the KJV). I am not aware of even one medical doctor who has made the argument that humans in general, or ANY human for that matter, needs to eat meat for survival.

          Is it not the case that ANY sin in the context of Christianity would set humanity on its course towards total destruction?

          In the original glory of the garden of Edin, there was only vegetarianism on the face of the earth. This was followed by the glory of God forfeited through sin, which was followed at the cross by the hope for a restored glory of God, which as clearly described in the Bible will ultimately restore all saved Christians to be solely vegetarian forever more…

          See “God’s End Time Vegetarian Diet: Bible Truth or Human Invention?”
          - http://greatcontroversy.org/reportandreview/qua-romans14pt2.php

          “It is interesting to see who God selected to have join Him with His Son at the transfiguration of Christ (Matthew 17:1-3). Moses and Elijah were honored to join with the Father and the Son in that glorious event. Moses represented all those who will die and then be resurrected to everlasting life (Jude 9). Elijah represented all those who will be translated at the Second Coming without seeing death. Both Moses and Elijah ate a vegetarian diet in their later years. For both, a vegetarian diet was God’s prescribed diet while here on earth.”

          “While vegetarianism is not a common practice in current western Christian thought and culture, the concept and practice has scriptural and historical support. According to the Bible, in the beginning, before the Fall, human and nonhuman animals, which are beings that have or are an änima, Latin for soul [and as such are separate and distinct from plant life],[6][7] were completely vegetarian, and “it was very good”.[Genesis 1:29-31]”
          - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism

          - Proverbs 12:10 KJV “A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.”

          - Isaiah 66:3 KJV “He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man”

          - Acts 15:29 NIV “You are to abstain … from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.” [Please also note that there are no procedures in place, not even kosher, which can assure the removal of all blood from meat. In fact many Jews such as Dr Richard Schwartz of Staten Island believe that it is impossible to drain all the blood out of tiny capillaries. And since this is a New Testament command, it cannot be argued that it was nailed to the cross as were the ceremonial [non-ten commandments] laws of the Old Testament.]

          - Exodus 20:13 KJV “Thou shalt not kill” [There are no other surrounding qualifiers, so as stated here (supposedly by one of God's chosen translation servants), it apparently applies to all sentient lifeforms, which would include animals].

          - Proverbs 23:20 World English Bible “Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat”

          - Genesis 1:29-30 KJV “29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.”

          - Isaiah 65:25 KJV “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.”

          - Job 5:23 KJV “For thou shalt be in league with the stones of the field: and the beasts of the field shall be at peace with thee.”

          - Isaiah 7:14-15 “Therefore, the Lord himself shall give you a sign–Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and shall bear a son and call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil and to choose the good. One interpretation of the butter and honey is that Christ would belong to a lower socio-economic class. However, some vegetarians believe that refusing the evil and choosing the good means refusing to consume animal flesh.

          So the Bible seems to make the point within the passages quoted above, that world peace is not possible when sentient beings of any species (including humans) are eating meat. Keeping in mind these Bible passages, how then can the Bible also condone the eating of meat? Some Christians may say that God cursed the world in this way when sin entered the world to remind us daily that the consequence of sin is death. Others may cite this as psychopathic/unloving/disconnected thinking (because, for example, what sin did vegetarian cows commit to justify slaughter by meat eaters?). The Bible does teach that there was no death, even of animals, prior to sin – ( http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2010/03/02/satan-the-fall-good-evil-could-death-exist-before-sin ). So if sin alone causes death, even of animals, and Christians are to refrain from sin, then it would seem anomalous for the Bible to ever condone the eating of meat, since as has been clearly shown here, eating meat is a sin. Could it be that the Bible was modified in this way, pardoning in a few select cases the sin of eating meat, for political and/or Illuminati Satanically evil inspired reasons?

          That the Bible has been modified is certainly not a new concept. For example “The Book of Enoch was considered as Scripture in the Epistle of Barnabas (16:4) and by many of the early Church Fathers, such as Athenagoras, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus and Tertullian, who wrote c. 200 that the Book of Enoch had been rejected by the Jews because it contained prophecies pertaining to Christ. However, later Fathers denied the canonicity of the book, and some even considered the letter of Jude uncanonical because it refers to an “apocryphal” work.
          By the 4th century, the Book of Enoch was mostly excluded from Christian canons, and it is now regarded as scripture by only the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Eritrean Orthodox Church.”
          - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

          Also, “a letter written by Clement, the third bishop of Rome, was considered as scripture for nearly two hundred years, as were seven letters written by Ignatius, who was the bishop of Antioch early in the second century. Also, there was a book called The Shepherd of Hermas and another called The Teachings of the Twelve Apostles that were also approved as scripture by the Church.”
          - http://www.14lds.com/judas.htm

          However, the Bible declares:

          - “As for God, his way [or method of inspiring scripture] is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless….” (Psalm 18:30)

          - “All scripture is given by inspiration of God.” (2 Timothy 3:16)

          - “… I [God] will put my words in his [the prophet's] mouth” (Deuteronomy 18:18)

          If this is true, then what has been inspired and later recognized as scripture (through God’s perfect word for word way of inspiring scripture) cannot change or arbitrarily be thrown out (not even under the pretext that it was not inspired), for any Christian canon, because we have been assured right in the Bible itself that all officially recognized Christian scripture was already perfect to begin with. The Bible also proclaims that Gods words will not pass away (Mark 13:31).

          Granted, the Bible also states in Deuteronomy that there will be false prophets who will claim to speak inspired words of God. However, to be clear, many ‘inspired words of God’ (spoken by prophets) are not considered to be ‘Bible scripture’ – these are not one and the same. So it would be patently false to conclude that the Bible is saying here that alleged inspired words of false prophets would EVER be included in any Christian Bible/canon.

          On the other hand, imagine the Bible credibility issues that would be created if Christians were to argue, that words of false prophets would continually attempt to attack, corrupt, or even destroy the Bible, and that at times these blasphemy’s would become part of Bible scripture. And all during this process the Bible would be preached as ‘the perfect word of God’?

          So it seems that no matter how we slice it, historically, there was nothing at all “perfect” about the process of determining for a given time period, what is officially recognized as scripture/truth, and what is not. It has been a wishy washy, arbitrary, contradictory process which can by no stretch of the imagination be considered perfect. In consideration of this it seems anomalous that Christianity claims that the Bible has been perfectly inspired (like what Bible… and like what time period are they talking about? Even in modern times there is not one singularly agreed upon Bible canon throughout all of Christianity) or that God is perfect. If God is perfect, he could, should, and in all likelihood, out of necessity in order for Christians to be able to claim that the Bible is consistent and trustworthy, and true, WOULD have seen to it that there were no attempts to ever alter (or take away from) his so called perfect scripture. Are we not assured, as argued above, that this would never happen?

          Take note also how in modern day Christian Bibles, the book of Jude 1:14 not only quotes (using very similar wordings) from the Book of 1 Enoch, but it also identifies Enoch as a prophet, thereby delineating him as a person who had inspired words of God to share with the public. Fragments of the Book of Enoch found among the Dead Sea scrolls witness to its availability in the Holy land in apostolic times.

          Also, “Most scholars agree that the post-resurrection stories of Jesus eating fish were added to the Gospels long after they were written, in order to settle various schisms in the early Church. (e.g., the Marcionites and other early Christians believed that Jesus did not actually return in the flesh. What better way to prove that he did than to depict him eating?) The scribes who added the stories were not, apparently, averse to eating fish. But since this is the only depiction anywhere in the Gospels of Jesus eating any animals at all, it seems clear that he was.
          The loaves and the fishes – Although it would not contradict the technical definition of a vegetarian to multiply fishes who are already dead to feed people who eat aren’t opposed to eating fish, there are some interesting points to notice about this story. First, the disciples ask Jesus where they will get enough bread to feed the multitudes, never even thinking of buying fish or other animal products, and never suggesting a fishing expedition, despite being beside a sea. Also, evidence indicates that the story of the loaves and the fishes did not originally include fish. For example, the earliest (pre-Gospel) accounts of this miracle do not include fish, and Jesus, when he refers to it, refers only to the bread (e.g., Mt 16:9-10, Mk 8:19-20, Jn 6:26). Fish were added to the stories by Greek scribes, probably because the Greek word for fish, ixous, is an acronym for the phrase “Jesus Christ Son of God Savior.” Indeed, the fish is still a symbol of Christianity today. In this very likely interpretation, the multiplication represents a prediction of the burgeoning Church and has nothing to do with eating animals.” – http://www.jesusveg.com/qow199.html

          So a question to keep in the back of your mind is, how can anyone really know what is inspired and what is not within the context of Christianity, even for whichever Bible YOU may consider to be truth? It would seem therefore disingenuous to attempt to justify the eating of meat based on the Bible, which has clearly been modified to the point of contradiction with regard to this topic (assuming there ever was a time when the Bible was contradiction free). Besides, common sense should tell us that goodness cannot include unnecessary violence, which is exactly what the eating of meat from slaughtered animals entails.

      • CTrent33

        God created certain animals to be our food. All animals He created for our use.

        F.Y.I. plants can feel pain too. Looks like you cant eat anything or you’ll be a hypocrite.

    • sarah

      Jesus cooked and fed his disciples with meat.

      BibleGateway.com is free on the internet and offers 150 versions of the Bible.

      If interested read all about it:

      John 21 King James Version Bible

      • HypothesisFree

        The word “fish” in the Bible may have been mistranslated from fishweed, which does seem a little more likely to be in a basket with bread. Jesus asked Simon called Peter and Andrew to give up fishing to become his disciples. Perhaps more than an invitation to serve, this was a subtle condemnation of the trade. Many people believe that Jesus belonged to the Essene sect of Jews, a group that was against animal sacrifices. If this is true it is very likely that Christ did not eat meat. Vegetarian Jews certainly existed in Jerusalem at the time, and it isn’t too far-fetched to think that Jesus was one of them.” – http://youngmormonfeminists.org/2014/02/05/mincing-our-words-animals-vegetables-and-scriptural-selectivity
        “Most scholars agree that the post-resurrection stories of Jesus eating fish were added to the Gospels long after they were written, in order to settle various schisms in the early Church. (e.g., the Marcionites and other early Christians believed that Jesus did not actually return in the flesh. What better way to prove that he did than to depict him eating?) The scribes who added the stories were not, apparently, averse to eating fish. But since this is the only depiction anywhere in the Gospels of Jesus eating any animals at all, it seems clear that he was.
        The loaves and the fishes – Although it would not contradict the technical definition of a vegetarian to multiply fishes who are already dead to feed people who eat aren’t opposed to eating fish, there are some interesting points to notice about this story. First, the disciples ask Jesus where they will get enough bread to feed the multitudes, never even thinking of buying fish or other animal products, and never suggesting a fishing expedition, despite being beside a sea. Also, evidence indicates that the story of the loaves and the fishes did not originally include fish. For example, the earliest (pre-Gospel) accounts of this miracle do not include fish, and Jesus, when he refers to it, refers only to the bread (e.g., Mt 16:9-10, Mk 8:19-20, Jn 6:26). Fish were added to the stories by Greek scribes, probably because the Greek word for fish, ixous, is an acronym for the phrase “Jesus Christ Son of God Savior.” Indeed, the fish is still a symbol of Christianity today. In this very likely interpretation, the multiplication represents a prediction of the burgeoning Church and has nothing to do with eating animals.” – http://www.jesusveg.com/qow199.html

        • DistantCousin

          And His Disciples were Gatherers of Seaweed???
          And they became “Seaweed Gatherers of Men”???

          Grasping At Straws, and returning with a handful
          of Seaweed.

          Probably Tilapia, (Saint Peter’s Fish)
          a major Protein source in Asia Today.
          (They Thrive in the worst of Conditions)

          RR :cool:

      • HypothesisFree

        By the way, “In Matthew 16:27-28, Jesus predicts his second coming to be within the lifetime of his own followers. We all know how accurate that was. If a supposed prophet has even one prophecy fail, can he rightfully be called a prophet? The bible itself says no, in Deut. 18:22.”

        Here is how these passages read in the King James version:

        27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

        28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom [and if they were to physically see Jesus, that means Jesus was to return in the flesh, not merely in spirit].

        [Objection: You have applied "this generation" in Matt. 24:34 to the first century. Most modern prophecy teachers interpret this differently. Some say it refers to the generation alive at the time of Christ’s future return. Others say the Greek word γενεά (genea) can mean race, suggesting the Jewish race will still be in existence when Jesus returns.

        Answer: All such opinions are presumptuous and irrelevant. The only interpretation worthy of consideration is the one taught in Scripture by Christ’s "holy apostles" (Eph. 3:5) who together with the prophets are the foundation of the Church of God (Eph. 2:19b-20; Rev. 21:14). Without exception, they understood Christ’s predictions to mean the Second Coming and all related events would occur within their lifetime; their generation. The Holy Spirit inspired this interpretation! Those promoting other interpretations attack the very foundation of the Church, deny the work of the Holy Spirit and according to Jesus and Paul, could be in danger of eternal condemnation (Mark 3:28-29; Gal. 1:8-9, 12). Please read The Apostles Predicted a First-Century Return of Christ [ http://www.preterism.info/apostles-predicted.htm ] …

        How could the Jews not be in existence at the return of Christ? They were the very people to whom Jesus was returning; to destroy some (Luke 21:22) and reward others (v. 28). Why would anyone ever make such an unnecessary statement as “Truly I say to you, you will still be in existence when I return to you?” Clearly, the “Jewish race” argument is beyond weak, it is absurd.]

        - http://www.preterism.info

        Also includes:

        Objection: Most commentators say Matt. 16:28 refers to the Transfiguration described in the following chapter.

        Answer: Matt. 16:28 cannot be referring to the Transfiguration. Please read Did the Transfiguration Fulfill Matt. 16:28? – http://www.preterism.info/transfiguration.htm

        which in summary states:

        [For the transfiguration to qualify as the fulfillment of Matt. 16:26-28, it must include several key elements:

        1. Jesus coming "with his angels in the glory of his Father" (v. 27);
        2. People being rewarded for what they have done, i.e., the judgment (v. 27). This would include people Christ was ashamed of (Mark 8:38; Luke 9:26). MacArthur writes, "Here...the Lord was concerned with the reward of the ungodly--final and eternal judgment" (John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, NASB ed. [Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 2006], Matt. 16:27);
        3. The “kingdom” (v. 28).

        Not one of these vital components was apparent at the transfiguration.]

        In the final analysis, it seems that we are left with only two possibilities: either 1) the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ already took place nearly 2000 years ago (a concept most Christians would find to be preposterous), or 2) according to Matthew 16:27-28, we see that Jesus Christ is found to be a false prophet, and therefore we ought not be wary of him (again, this is coming from the Christian Bible itself, as anyone can verify within the passages cited).

        • Theron

          Prove to me that there aren’t people who were standing there with him not living today. He in fact quite clear and stated this was to be so. What business of your is it if He allows someone to live until He returns? None of your business, it is for Him to decide.
          John 21:22
          Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.

          • FAT AXL!!!

            That is exactly so.

            I saw a really, really old fella on line at the bank the other day, who looked like he might have been, so I asked him:

            You’re the Apostle John, right?

            But he just looked at me like I had ten heads and resumed his transaction cashing his Social Security check.

    • maxwell

      …Hypothesis free seems to be writing his own bible…He’s only got a few dozen more words to write before its the same length,anyway.

    • Nanar

      In Gabon, I met a pastor who believed he could cure aids by god’s benediction “flowing through him”.
      He was so sure of his gift that he ended sleeping with the women he “cured”.
      He died of HIV.

      • The Clucker

        :lol:

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