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Jerusalem: God’s Eternal City

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 Acts 3:1-2

1 Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour.

And a certain man lame from his mother’s womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple;

By Pastor Joseph Chambers  /  Paw Creek

     Jerusalem is an Eternal City and will soon be the capital of the One Thousand Year Kingdom of Jesus Christ. It is a simple matter to understand all this hoopla over this breathtaking city. Presently it is simply a place of different religions and different claims of possession. It is like a diamond in the rough and being cast about by political forces.

     But in God’s plan, it is His city and He has His angels keeping watch. “I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the Lord, keep not silence.” (Isaiah 62:6) We are reminded to keep this matter on our hearts and continuously in our conversations with God. You have nothing to fear that somehow this city will be obliterated. It can no more happen than for the sun to fall. Trouble is ahead, but very soon God will step out of His Heavenly Jerusalem and take possession of His earthly Jerusalem.

     An honest and Biblically sound evaluation of Jerusalem’s immediate future can be quite unnerving.  For someone that loves Jerusalem as deeply as I do, it is not easy to accept the truth.  Praying for the peace of the “chosen city” has been a commitment of my life for many years.  The Bible commands every believing individual, Jew or Gentile, to be deeply committed to this responsibility.  It is easy once we accept this challenge to then fail to see the prophetic facts of what must occur to accomplish the answer.  When we pray for the “Peace of Jerusalem,” we also are praying for the perfect fulfillment of all acts of judgment and prophecies that will ultimately assure the “peace.”  Actually, when you pray for peace, you are praying for the Biblical process, which is terrifying to discover.

Jerusalem Is Destined For Some Very Dark Events

      The Son of God warned all of us of the dark facts that this city must endure and suffer before He can sit on David’s throne.  Jesus Christ will return to be the King of Kings over Jerusalem, Israel, and the whole world.  This city is deep in the heart of the eternal Son of God.  He walked through the streets with His disciple, proclaiming, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem . . . how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!” (Matthew 23:37).

      When the Jewish people rejected the Son of God as the Messiah, they set in motion the chain of events that were and are still to be affected.  Jesus, later, gave us a fairly complete picture of Jerusalem from that day, nearly two thousand years ago “until” Jerusalem shall be redeemed as a city and become a “praise in all the earth.”  Here are the actual words of Jesus Christ Himself.  “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.  For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.  But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.  And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”  (Luke 21:20-24).

      This great text shows us a progressive picture from a few years after the crucifixion until the Second Coming of our Lord to establish His kingdom on earth.  When Titus marched his Roman army up to Jerusalem (A.D. 70) and destroyed the city, the “times” of the Gentiles began.  Note that word “times.”  There have been many times that Gentiles in one form or another have affected great destruction and consternation on Jerusalem and its inhabitants.  When Jesus said Jerusalem, He certainly included the geographical area now called the nation of Israel, plus the land occupied by these Arabs called Palestinians.  “Times of the Gentiles” includes every, invasion, occupation, or political control by anyone other than the Jewish people that affected Jerusalem.  It includes the massacre by the Catholic crusaders that took Jerusalem and murdered Arabs and Jews alike.  There have been awesome efforts on the part of many nations and armies to eliminate Jewish people.  Many of these efforts were on the soil of the nations and armies attacking them.  At other times, it was in Jerusalem.  The “times” of the Gentiles, as it relates to Jerusalem and the Jewish people, includes many inhumane occasions.

God, The Father Has Chosen Jerusalem

      Jerusalem was chosen by our God to put His name there forever.  The Word of God said, “… Jerusalem, the city which the LORD had chosen out of all the tribes of Israel, to put his name there…” (2 Chronicles 12:13).  Actually, Jerusalem is the earthly counterpart of the Heavenly Jerusalem.  The city is a delight to the Lord Himself and He longs for His righteousness and peace to grace the city with perpetual glory.  Angels have been assigned to Jerusalem for at least twenty-five hundred years (2,500).  Isaiah told of this revelation of truth that he was given.  He spoke to this subject by first addressing the Father’s love and passion for Jerusalem.  He quoted the words God had given him, “For Zion’s sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem’s sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.” (Isaiah 62:1).  Then, the God of Israel said, “I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence, And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.” (Isaiah 62:6-7).

      It would be breathtaking to visit Jerusalem with unveiled eyes and see the army of angels that keep watch day and night.  The unseen war above this city is far greater and more spectacular than any war fought on the ground.  Even then, His army of angels cannot go beyond the prophetic facts of judgment, death, and calamities appointed by the Lord Himself.  These angelic watchman guarantee the absolute promises of God and no destruction will ever eliminate the city or keep its future from the perfect glory appointed.  In other words, they assure a perfect balance between the appointed judgments and the glorious future.

The Perfect Will Of God Will Be Accomplished

      Jerusalem will be the capital of the whole earth and especially the capital of the Jewish nation.  The Son of God will sit upon the Throne of David.  The city will expand in every direction and become the largest city in the world.  According to Ezekiel, the city will be approximately sixty (60) miles square with a twelve (12) square inner city.  This means the city will stretch almost the entire distance between the Mediterranean Sea and the Dead Sea.  (See our booklet, entitled, “Jerusalem, The Promised Land.”)

Israel Became A Nation Again in 1948

      The modern history of Israel as a nation began in 1948.  The people of Jewish blood had been dispersed, deprived, and persecuted intermittently for the eighteen hundred and seventy-eight (1878) years since A.D. 70.  Their survival as a distinct people with a Jewish bloodline seems completely impossible.  While all of those years contain a Biblical significance, the end times of Jewish history began in 1948.  At that point, a prophecy of their national resurrection was commenced.  Their existence as a people was like a valley of bleached bones, but the Word of God had spoken.  The infallible book becomes miraculous as God speaks and men act and believe.  Listen!  “Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.   And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves.”  (Ezekiel 37:4,11,13).

      A small minority of the Jewish people were finally at home and were a nation but were immediately attacked by their neighbors.  Outnumbered and impoverished in military equipment, they fought back and won miraculously.  The nation began to grow, the land responded, the deserts bloomed, and the seasons and rainfall increased.  Israel quickly became a modern miracle.  Their technology is second to none and their military prowess is the envy of the military world.  They are a chosen people with a chosen identity even though they are still in unbelief.  But, our God is working wonderfully to perform His will in them and bring them to repentance.  The process is slow, but our God is patient.  It cannot be much longer.  For fifty-three years, they have had both blessings and great trials.

 1 Corinthians 15

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

From The Present To The Climax

      These fifty-three (53) years for Israel have been like God’s clock ticking on the wall.  The countdown is on and every believer must watch each event with a prophetic eye.  Nothing can stop the process, though painful as it may be.  Our anger because of another suicide bombing or a drive-by shooting stirs our heart to bleed.  Yet, the bleeding is part of the process.  The events will often call for Israel’s military response; yet, the necessary response will not end the conflicts.  America must carefully defend our primary ally in the Middle East, but all of us must not allow the negotiations and support to blind us to the prophetic future.  While we share their pain and support their right to the Promised Land, we must remember that they are still in unbelief and the process of bringing them to repentance is yet forthcoming.  They are an incredibly stubborn people and God’s chastisement is one of the tools that will break the yoke.  That stubbornness was necessary to bring them through the centuries of anti-Semitism, but now the hands of their God must temper it.

      Let’s carefully look at a list of facts, which are easily seen in the prophetic passages yet to be completed.

       Jerusalem will be a “cup of trembling” and a “troublesome stone” to the world and its governments, “until”…  Every time I write “until,” I am referring to the victory that is finished with the Battle of Armageddon.  There may be, and I pray so, periods of relative peace concerning Jerusalem, but it cannot be lasting.  The presence of a Jewish state in their ancient city of Jerusalem creates a problem for almost the entire world because of its prophetic significance.  Look at that text. “Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.”  (Zechariah 12:2-3).

      When you have an ancient people with a clear Biblical promise from those ancient times perfectly fulfilled, it either must be rejected or accepted as proof of the Bible.  Consequently, any person or nation that rejects the Bible is placed in a position to reject the rights of that ancient people, in this case, the Jews.  This fact creates consternation and makes the city of Jerusalem, when connected to the Israel nation, a “troublesome stone” and a “cup of trembling.”  This fact cannot go away unless we eliminate the Jews from Jerusalem and deny the Bible.  We will not do either one.  In fact, we cannot change God’s perfect plan.

      It was the Lord Jesus Christ that said, “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” (Luke 21:24).  The presence of Gentiles (Palestinians or anyone else that is non-Jewish) cannot be eliminated from Jerusalem, “until!”  Regardless of how desirable it seems to Bible believers for the completed possession of all Israel by the Israeli people, the Lord said, it cannot happen.  Not only does the truth of this great passage demand the presence of Gentiles, it demands their presence in military or police activities.  The city of Jerusalem and its Jewish population will be trodden down “until.”  “Trodden down” means to be trampled under foot.

      A truth, as clearly stated by the Lord Jesus Christ, in this case, leaves no room for argument.  This does not mean that Israel should not defend themselves, but that their best effort will not rid their country of terror and conflict.  The very presence of Arab people, many of them Christians, demands that the government of Israel be careful to protect the rights of its citizens.  Jerusalem and the State of Israel in perfect Biblical fulfillment cannot occur “until!”  Israel must make the best of the ongoing process and simply survive “until!”

      Death and sorrows will increase. The city of Jerusalem is destined for more destruction and sorrows until they repent and receive their rejected Messiah.  It’s impossible for Jerusalem to be the city of peace until they are shepherded by the Prince of Peace.  Jesus plainly stated that “they shall fall by the edge of the sword” … until!  Every Christian should help bear the burden of the Jewish people, pray for their peace, and await God’s final moment.

      Jerusalem cannot be a free city wholly governed by Israel, until!  Israel must have a covenant with the Eternal God before this city can end the many demands for a little piece of this coveted city and land.  The Catholics want to govern, the Muslims want to govern, and the religious groups that own a piece of Jerusalem’s real estate want to govern.  The conflicts are unsolvable because the views cannot be reconciliated.  The world will demand that Israel accept a peace process that maintains Jerusalem as a pluralistic city.  The political tide will almost surely succeed in demanding America support such a process.

      While I believe America will maintain its sheep nation status, I also believe we will be forced to accept a Palestinian state jointly with the state of Israel in the land wrongly called Palestine.  We all long for the nation of Israel to possess the total promise given to Abraham.  Even if all of the land now controlled by Israel and the Palestinians together was possessed by Israel, it would not be close to what God promised to Abraham.  Not until the King of Kings returns to drive the army of the Antichrist into utter defeat can the promises be finished. Jerusalem will not be the sole capital of Israel “until!”

Isaiah 66

1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

     Two of every three Jews will be killed between now and the return of Jesus Christ.  Nothing is sadder to contemplate than the last catastrophe that Israel encounters before the end.  Nobody but Jewish haters wants the Jewish people to experience another holocaust.  It cannot be avoided.  Hitler will pale in comparison to the “man of sin” and his companions of evil.  Zechariah made this prophetic statement, “Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones. And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.   And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.”  (Zechariah 13:7-9).

      I personally believe that this prophecy includes all the Jews on a worldwide basis.  “In all the land” appears to mean “in all the land” internationally.  The Antichrist and his anti-spirit will hunt down every person of Jewish descent and strive to eliminate them.  Hatred for the Jewish people is a diabolical hatred that will pursue them to their hidden places around the globe.    The Muslims call them pigs and monkeys.  The Jewish people have been systemically accused of almost every atrocity.  Conspiracy theories abound that propose to document the chosen people as the source of all evil.  Satan will not just search and destroy Jews in the land of Israel, but worldwide.  Thousands of people are converting to Judaism.  Some Christians are even teaching that the Jewish people can be converted and saved in Judaism without the gospel of Jesus Christ.  All of this is but cold, calculated deception at the hand of the deceiver.  Very likely the proselytes to Judaism will suffer the exact same fate of the Jews between the present and the glorious moment of His return.

      At some point, an army from the North will descend on Israel. This event is considerably more controversial than the Battle of Armageddon.  It may occur before the Rapture or after the Rapture.  Ezekiel documented the facts of this horrible attack. “Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,  And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:  And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:  Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet.”  (Ezekiel 38:2-5).  All of these ancient nations are each a present modern nation and each well equipped and capable to fulfill this prophecy.

      It appears to me that this battle against Israel occurs soon after the Rapture.  The defeat of this army will anger the nations that hate Israel and serve as a kind of rallying cry that ends a few years later in the armies gathering for the Battle of Armageddon.  The Armageddon armies will be the revenge factor from the defeat of Gog and Magog.  They will be blinded by their rage and will not cease until they have marched into their own graves in Megiddo.

      The armies of the Antichrist are very different from the coalition named in Ezekiel.  This army is led by the Antichrist himself.  His furor at Israel will be the final sword in God’s hand of judgment for Israel.  The Bible says, “Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.   For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.”  (Zechariah 14:1-2).

Zechariah 12

In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

     This battle ends God’s “cup of wrath” against His own chosen and He descends to fight the enemies Himself. Follow the continuing of the Scripture above.  “Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.”  “And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.  And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.” (Zechariah 14:3-4,12-13)

      This battle is the “until!”  It is the battle that ends nearly 2,000 years of estrangement between the God of Abraham and the people of Abraham’s loins. They rejected Jesus Christ and were cut off and out of their own Olive Tree.  Now, they will be redeemed and regrafted into their own stump.  Everything that Bible believers want for the Lord’s people, the Jews, will now become reality.

The Fullness Of Israel Will Come

      Israel’s future is breathtaking, but cannot be born illegitimately.  Try as we may to place Israel in her glory before the time has come and we only frustrate ourselves.  By the wisdom given by the Holy Ghost, Apostle Paul understood perfectly the process.  He stated, “According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; unto this day. And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:  Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.”  (Romans 11:8-10).

      I mentioned earlier that the Jews were a stubborn people, but this was part of their judgment.  Note those words, “that they may not see and bow down their back alway.”  But all of this shall change at the appointed time.  Paul continued, “I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.   Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fullness?”  “For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?”  (Romans 11:11-12,15).

The Rebirth of Israel Is Very Soon

     I see nothing on the prophetic horizon that can forestall the coming showdown.  The president of the Islamic nation of Sudan has prophesied that we will have a world dominated by Islam by 2010.  (Cal Thomas, Charlotte Observer, October 27, 2001.)  The “War on Terrorism” places Israel under incredible pressure to compromise more territory and given more credence to the terrorist, Yasar Arafat.  If the efforts of President Bush and our American military succeed in crippling the worldwide organization of terrorists, it may mean a few more years.  If they fail to destroy the stockpiles of bio-chemical and nuclear capacities, it probably means very little time left before the Tribulation period officially begins.

     Under all circumstances our world is a powder keg and Israel is our time clock. “And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” (Luke 21:24).  Greatness for Israel hangs in the balance and the Lord Jesus Christ is soon to tip the scales.

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    • allendaves

      God does not care about the physical city …the spiritual city of Jerusalem…and you missed the 2nd coming already…..123’S OF TRUE CHRISTIANITY V POPULAR & DAMNABLE HERESIES
      First the devil tried to kill Christianity via persecutions and death……Now, he has since changed tactics. He is running around convincing as many lost people as possible that they are indeed Christians via empty platitudes and doctrinal nonsense with vain confessions and “faiths of fools”…..Prov 26:12; and oh yea, don’t let anyone tell you that you’re not saved coz you “know your saved” & “got the spirit”…..?!?
      Mat 7: 13. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT……….22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied (Rev 19;10….the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy) in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23. And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity……These folks are surprised, shocked and “never imagined”……
      2Thess 2:10..because they received not THE LOVE of the truth, that they might be saved. 11. And for this cause GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe a lie: 12. THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED who believed not the truth,

      #1 “ANOTHER JESUS”: (2Cor 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus…)
      The 1 person God not 3 different persons: Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT….. (NOTE: And yes, the specific Greek and Hebrew words used also and only define one person contrary to the ridiculous obfuscation attempts of some!?!)
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      #2 “ANOTHER GOSPEL”: (2Cor 11:4 “…or another gospel”… Do you even know what the Gospel is?!?) The “2nd coming”… “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till I come”… NOT …“in another 2000 years I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 (in their lifetime) are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the Lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.
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      #3 GOD LOVES EVERYONE??? Jesus Died for “you”?……
      Does God love you?….“Probably” NOT!….and NO Jesus did NOT die for everyone!?!…… “come as you are??” (Lk 3:8)
      Prov 8: 17. I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME …………Do you love God??
      1John 5:3. For THIS IS THE LOVE OF GOD, that we keep his commandments:
      There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups Predestination….its true..its all true… God does NOT love everyone:
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      THE THIEF-BAPTISM-GRACE & THE NAME-LORD
      “whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be saved”
      ………So WHAT “NAME” did you “CALL UPON”?……
      Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD
      Ps 138:2. praise THY NAME … for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME -
      NOTE: God placed His “THE WORD” ABOVE all of God’s various NAMEs – and Jesus NAME IS called “THE WORD” no other name saves. The MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is “THE WORD”; Not letters that spell “word” but the sayings/ doctrine/commands. It does NOT say “thy word is given a name above other names because here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names.
      Isaiah 52:1. . 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ..What NAME do you “KNOW”?
      1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./ Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…
      “AT the name OF JESUS”…..Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus…just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name…likewise the name OF JESUS is NOT the letters J-E-S-U-S. Why would anyone think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great/wonderful and or “unspeakable” )
      Rev 3:8 kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME; …
      .Jn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME And they have KEPT THY WORD.;
      THE WORD is THE NAME above every name that saves us 1Pt 3:21 The ONE baptism(Eph 4:5) is into THE WORD ( which is also baptism in the Holy spirit Jn 6:63the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit ) ..ALL the sayings doctrines and commands….what did THE WORD that became flesh command? (Mat 28:19)…..what did THE WORD exemplify? (Mat 3:15/ Jn 4:1)………among other things…..YES .water baptism is just as essential and necessary for much a part of salvation (1Pt 3:21) as is keeping one self away from works of the flesh (Gal 5:21)….In fact obedience to the command of water baptism is specifically identified as the act of calling on the name of the Lord (Col 2:12 “……though the operation[work] of God” CAN ANY MAN BE SAVED WITHOUT GOD WORKING ON HIM?) …..THE WORD OF GOD is the name of God that men call upon OR…OR ..they DENY with their disobedience
      The scriptures tell us almost nothing about the thief’s life. However, the scriptures tell us a great deal about Christ life……Jesus had been around for 3.5 years before the cross and was Baptizing (Jn 4:1-2 in fact He instructed his disciples to do so and did many more then John the Baptist ever did) …..Those who try to appeal to the thief on the cross assume the thief had never heard of Jesus preaching and had never ever been baptized….The burden of Proof is on those who say baptism is not essential! ………..You can’t claim a logically valid “non-essentiality” doctrinal argument on ANYTHING based on what the scriptures do not say and in spite of the things it clearly does state to the opposite effect!…That is like looking at the constitutional law and then basing a argument against a constitutional principle in law based on the fact that history did not record for us what some unknown cattle thief did or did not do a 150 years ago?!?! What??..Who cares?? We know what the constitution did say 150 years ago. I don’t know of any Law school that bases its teaching on constitutional law based on what history does not tell us about unknown cattle thieves!?! ..Jesus command, preached & practiced Baptism so did the apostles ….To build one’s theology on the fact that the scriptures do not tell us ANY detail(s) of the thief’s life before the cross (we know almost absolutely nothing about the thief!!) it is quite foolish and willfully ignorant of what the scriptures do say about baptism…….so those who try to use the thief are in effect building their house on the sand of what scriptures do not say about a thief in spite of what the scriptures do specifically tell us about baptism!?!… “Their damnation is just” comes to mind…
      HTTPS://WWW.SCRIBD.COM/DOCUMENT/326686356/THIEF-CROSS-3D HTTPS://WWW.ACADEMIA.EDU/23846490/THIEF_AND_CROSS_3D

    • The Ferrett

      “The modern history of Israel as a nation began in 1948. The people of Jewish blood had been dispersed, deprived, and persecuted intermittently for the eighteen hundred and seventy-eight (1878) years since A.D. 70″ WRONG, WRONG AND WRONG AGAIN! The terms “Jew” and “Israel” are NOT synonymous.

      The so called “Jews” of today are NOT, nor ever have been the descendants of Shem, father of the Semites. Nor of Eber, father of the Hebrews, nor of Jacob who was renamed Israel.

      Jacob was Sac’s son. The Sac sons were driven by Assyria into the Caucusus Mountains in 745 B.C., this is verified in 2 Kings 16:5-6. The Sac sons/ Saxons dwelt there for about 130 years and left founding many Nations for Father Abraham.

      Isaac’s sons became known as “Caucasians” and this is OUR racial heritage that the jews so desperately wish to destroy.

      Jesus Christ is the stone cut from the mountain without hands in king Nebuchadnezzar’s image. Christians should cease to support Christ-rejecting, blaspheming, wicked, apostate, professed “Jews” who are not Jews, behind the present secular state of Israel—a cruel fraud perpetuated upon the whole world.

      Revelation 2:9, “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”

    • Vic

      They that call themselves jews are not the chosen people of God. The land that they have taken over is not theirs and never has been. Christians are the chosen people. Too many religious teachers have been deceived by believing that the state of Israel are chosen by God. The actions of the state of Israel murdering Palestinians and destroying and plundering are not the teachings of Jesus Christ.

      “The term Israelite is purely Biblical. An Israeli is a citizen of Israel, regardless of religion. A Jew is a person anywhere in the world born to a Jewish mother, or converted to Judaism, who is thus identified as a member of the Jewish people and religion.”

      – Information Division, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem; Feb, 1998.

      “Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a “Jew.” Or to call a contemporary Jew [an] “Israelite,” or a “Hebrew.” The first Hebrews may not have been Jews at all, and contemporary Palestinians, by their own definition of the term “Palestinian,” have to include Jews among their own people.”

      –The Jewish Almanac, Oct., 1980, page 3, Bantam Books, Inc. Under a headline entitled… ‘IdentityCrisis’.

      • Alan Schuetz

        Vic, have you never read Romans 11? Your “Christian arrogance” is showing…

        https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11&version=NASB

        BTW, Christ was a Jew (of the tribe of Judah).

        https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Jew

        • Vic

          Laschuetz,
          Perhaps you are the arrogant one. KJV Bible is the only Bible to use.

          Benjamin H. Freedman Hebrew Historian etc.
          Jesus was a ‘Judean’, not a Jew.
          During His lifetime, no persons were described as “Jews” anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the “homeland” of the ancestors of those who today style themselves “Jews”. Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their “homeland”, and were known as Khazars. In neither of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a “Jew”, just as the term “Texan” signifies a person living in Texas.
          In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called “Jews”, they have been unable to prove in all the recorded history that there is a record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as “Jew”. The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled “Jews” today refer to as “Jews”, were known as “Pharisees”. “Judaism” today and “Pharisaism” in the time of Jesus are the same.

          • Mayhem

            Oh dear an onlyist :lol:

    • Alan Schuetz

      Jerusalem is certainly NOT the eternal city… NEW JERUSALEM IS! The current Jerusalem is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt in Revelation 11:8.

    • CTrent33

      Matthew 21:43 “Therefore I say to you, that the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and shall be given to a nation yielding the fruits thereof.”

    • wheeties

      such nonsense spoken by fools since the beginning of time–pretending to be light when it is nothing but gloom and darkness–god would not touch it with a 5000 ft pole–the bible is the book of wrath and judgement–god has zero wrath and no judgement–satan’s little helpers wrote the bible–the word of men-not god–salvation is given to all–just like jesus said–the bible thumpers of his day did not like him saying that for it took away their power($) so they killed him–the bible thumpers of today would do the same being the hateful judgemental jackasses they are–god does not read the bible–never has–never will–the bible was written by insane homeless fools in a cave inspired by satan–satan’s best work,the bible–remember fools,god loves all his stupid idiotic children,even evil hateful bible thumpers,the worst of the worst,and god would do nothing to hurt his foolish children–only dumbass humans would do that,led by satan,bible in one hand and a death sword in the other,giving judgement,hate to all who disagree…

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