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RE: When They Come For Your Guns (Must See Video)

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I enjoyed this Hoss USMC video. Like most things his perspective is well thought out and logical. Dude just makes sense.

Here are my thoughts on the video:
1) It should have been titled “IF They Come For Your Guns”. Personally gun confiscation is pretty low on my list of concerns. Though if I lived in Kalifornia, New York, Chicago, etc I might feel differently. Simply cannot see that happening in most of the US. Anyway moving on.

2) People are more important than things. I can get another gun much easier than I can recover from lethal wounds. This is made much easier conceptually if you have backups, in this case guns with ancillary stuff, stored someplace other than your home. That brings us to Caches.

3) Caches. Like I talked about before you have to consider the context of a cache. In this case I would look at the type of people you might store things with first. Like John Mosby said more or less “Hiding crates of Mosin Nagant’s in the basement of the Gun Club’s President is not a sound plan”. An ideal candidate to cache some stuff with would be either for your cause but very quietly so or relatively neutral about it but very pro you and thus willing to help you out.

In terms of proximity a cache would need to be far enough away from you to be unaffected by the event that concerns you but close enough for you to get to if that event happens. Obviously a cache of guns buried 5 feet from your house or stored with the next door neighbor is a bad plan. On the other hand a gun 2,300 miles away isn’t very helpful either. Somewhere between a mile and a hundred miles is probably a good way to go. Of course that is just a rough idea. Obviously a quarter mile from home buried in the state park would be fine. Political boundaries are also a consideration. If you live in California a buddy in Oregon/ Nevada/ Arizona would have some real benefits. Ditto for Cook County, Ill and Pop’s Farm in Cornville.

Of course like any other cache appropriate planning and preparation is required.

4) Bait Guns. While I have my doubts about how unwinding all the the NCIS and ATFE 4473 mess for all guns on a national scale but lets just say that happened with some degree of effectiveness. In any case unless they are literally going block by block, door to door searching homes the folks knocking at the door probably know you have some guns. It would probably be a hard sell to convince them you do not have a single firearm. At a minimum that would likely garner unwanted attention. Since you want them to leave, not get deeper into your life, that is bad.

Awhile back Maine Prepper had the excellent point not to try giving them a broken rusty BB Gun and saying it is your only gun. A more realistic option might be a handgun as well as a shotgun / .22/ rifle. The first advantage of this plan would be you have these guns in the home prior to this hypothetical confiscation. A rifle to go hunting, a pistol and shotgun to defend your castle, whatever. If these are basic guns they can be very functional but had purchased at modest costs; particularly if you can buy them when opportunities arise. An old .38 and a Mosin Nagant or pump shotgun could be had for under $500. Aside from the benefit of having more quality guns now you can show them what they expected (which is to find some guns) getting them out of your hair. The second benefit would be that you are meeting their expectations which will get them out your door faster.

As to the rest of your guns? If folks are just doing a door to door search they came and found (or you handed over, whatever) your bait guns then I’d keep my mouth shut. Talking as little as possible around Cops is not a bad idea anyway. On the other hand maybe somehow they unwound all or part of the NCIS/ 4473 mess. At this point they are asking about the Glock 19 SN 12345 I purchased on 9 June 2008 at Shooters in Columbus GA. This rather unlikely scenario is one of the biggest reasons to buy paperless guns.

Well in most of the US private sales are currently legal with no requirements for documentation or going through an FFL. A plausible lie that would be very difficult to improve might be the order of the day. I sold a bunch of guns a few years back: when I was getting stationed in Germany, was out of work for a few months, needed money when the Mrs got pregnant, had to fund a move from Ohio to Kansas, realized I hadn’t hunted in years, swapped it for auto repair on a car that’s since been sold etc or something else plausible like it fell out of the boat on a fighting trip, was stolen and you mindlessly forgot to report it, lost it in a poker game or whatever. The point would be to choose something that would be plausible and generally matches with some known facts from your life, yet would be just about impossible to disprove. I like events years in the past that occurred in other areas. Sure if the proverbial federal ‘eye of mordor’ shifted onto me they could try to track down an older shade tree mechanic from Kansas circa 2009 but in a mass confiscation scenario that would not get run down. I suppose this would be easiest for somebody who hasn’t bought a papered gun in years that has also made a big move or two. If you’ve always lived in the same town and bought an AR-15 last summer it might be a bit harder to be convincing and vague at the same time. 

It is also worth noting that you would want to rid the home of ammunition, accessories, etc for guns you are hypothetically claiming are no longer in your possession.  I expect a mag or box of ammo in the back of a closet could be explained away. However huge stacks of ammo cans and dozens of AR-15 magazines  and Glock 17 magazines for the guns you claim to have sold/ whatever would be a hard sell.

So anyway those are my thoughts on that. As always your input is welcome.


Source: http://tslrf.blogspot.com/2013/05/re-when-they-come-for-your-guns.html


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    • titus1fourteen

      But how can we keep them from knocking on our doors in the first place if they are not met with gunfire. They don’t want to be shot at, they want to intimidate, destroy your house, smell your wife’s panties, scream cheesy military rants at your kids,history proves they always start raping the women and children. When they knock on your door to take your guns your already dead, the next stop is FEMA.

    • caribbean critic

      Actually it is a good idea to engage the enemy without the enemy knowing they are being engaged! by now you must be thinking I am crazy ,but hear me out. There are many ways to covertly attack the enemy that result in the enemies death but not immediately
      1) Contaminate your home by releasing a slow and deadly contagious infectious disease to which you and your family have been previously immunized
      2) By the use of simple but powerful microwave oven ‘ simply dismantle the front door of your oven place the door lock keys in the receptacles! remain behind and as far away from the oven as possible point the open oven towards any entry point to your home disguise hide the oven then power the oven up!
      3) Using simple photo cells as a security screen around your home use this invisible screen to alert you of any approaching enemy by operating an intrusion alarm such as a Klaxon horn which produces 120+ decibels of sound the horn should be pointed away from your home and towards any external entry point to your property the noise will be so loud it will cause pain to any approaching enemy the enemy closing on the source will cause blood capillary rupture to the ears and eyes of the enemy this should only be used when you have a secure escape route available to you and your family and will give you time to make that escape to the chosen base of operations.!
      4) many household appliances and commonly used garden chemicals and implements can be quickly and simply turned into covert weapons make you plans now practice making these weapons the weapons you make should not require your presence just an active enemy search to trigger them!
      Remember Alexander Solzhenitsyn book Gulag archipelago lay ambushes in every home take as many down as you can very shortly the government will be running short of people willing to carry on the attacks there are very few of them there are many of us!

    • Andy721

      rig the door bell with a bullet to the head. Simple. Bury the bodies like the nazis and the people who helps along side the farm to hide the jew bodies.

      • Anonymous

        Wat about Muslim and Satan worshipers, etc., who are practice colonialism with Sharia law? They will burn you house down with you in it.

      • Anonymous

        Wat about Musilm and Satanic worshipers who practice Sharia law for colonialism?

    • Panzzer

      Give Them Nothing. Take From Them…Everything!

      • Anonymous

        That’s why they are coming after you.

    • Nunyabiz

      You could always keister your weapon, they will be too busy searching your house to check there.

      • Anonymous

        And get ma to clean up after. Sounds good!

    • Anne Narkey

      Well… While it is good to be thinking about these types of scenarios, this example is not really the best explained.

      Hoss has two buddies. No doubt they are all of like mind and share similar ideas in tactics.
      So, each of the 3 divide their food, guns and ammo into thirds and distribute them at “their buddy’s house” effectively doing nothing since they all end up with 3/3rds of the total amount of supplies. What needs to be done is to be watchful and all three friends join forces when the first report from their town occurs. Then everyone takes action. Yes, caches are a good thing, and so are remote outposts but eventually you’ll have to either get into a fire fight or you’ll just keep running away to run another day. Where will the line be for you? At your castle’s door step, or in the streets somewhere away from your home and supplies?
      -Anne
      Just a thought.

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