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No Blood, No Bodies in Orlando: “103 People Can’t Be Shot Without Real Evidence”

Friday, June 17, 2016 17:17
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This article was written by Paul Craig Roberts and originally published at his PaulCraigRoberts.org website.

Editor’s Comment: While the truth about this event is difficult to know, there is ample strangeness in this case that raises similar questions to those that have lingered since 9/11, Sandy Hook and the Boston Marathon bombing, to name but a few incidents.

Paul Craig Roberts, who was high up in the system as a Wall Street Journal editor and a Reagan Administration economist and cabinet member, has pointed out the complete lack of evidence and sincerity in this case, which makes no sense and is inconsistent with other cases from real life which are not coordinated in the media.

Orlando Shooting: Still No Evidence

Paul Craig Roberts

In response to my challenge ( http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/13/orlando-shooting-paul-craig-roberts/ ) readers report that they have found no evidence of bodies or blood. One person reports that a TV station posted names of some victims, which is the way the absence of Sandy Hook bodies was handled.

One person who said he is a veteran said the AR-15 can have a 30-round clip. That would mean four reloadings in order to shoot 103 people. The veteran said that the rifle can be reloaded in 5 seconds: one clip is dropped out, another put in, and the bolt released. But 5 seconds is not fast enough to prevent being rushed. Remember, sprinters can cover 100 yards—300 feet—in less than 10 seconds. Ordinary people who are not couch potatoes can cover 300 feet in 20 seconds. That means they can cover 150 feet in 10 seconds or 75 feet in 5 seconds or 15 feet in 1 second.. In the crowded club, people were likely no more than 10 feet from the shooter, 20 feet at the most. Moreover, if there is only one shooter, he can be rushed in an arc that he cannot possibly cover. It is difficult to imagine that there were no veterans in the club, no people aware that guns run out of bullets and have to be reloaded and that so many people would miss four opportunities to disarm the shooter. It is hard to imagine that none of the hundreds of people present were capable of presence of mind. Bottles could be thrown at him, glasses, chairs. And no one did anything?

Mainly what readers have reported is evidence that the Orlando shooting is a hoax. One reader sent me a video in which a skeptic uses a RT video to show that the same three allegedly injured people, who so far are the only victims we have been shown, are being carried toward the night club, not away from it.

Another person sent a video that shows the man with the red shoes who is being carried is put down after the camera walk-by.

Here are readers reporting their inability to find any real evidence. Somehow 103 people were shot and there is no visible evidence.

Dear Mr. Roberts, in response to your request for evidence regarding the Orlando shooting, I held my nose and forced myself to watch about an hour and a half of fox and cnn. No blood whatsoever. Nothing real about any of the videos or stupid interviews with alleged victims. I knew we were being lied to the first night when Fox News trotted out Bernard Kerik. We know that traitor lied to us about 911. Why would we believe anything that evil bastard said about this event. Thanks for such a great article. You really nailed it. Dutch

I was watching one of the networks at a local eatery. My working assumption on these mass shootings is that they are fake, either entirely so, as you mildly suggest in your latest article, or perpetrated by government informants. The cameo profiles of victims began appearing on TV last night, as my wife and I sat at a bar-restaurant eating chicken wings. Who believes this stuff? Pepe Escobar and others are also articulating skepticism on their Facebook pages. Is this a distraction from some important stuff going down at Bilderberg?

Thank you for your great work. I agree with your take on Orlando,San Bernardino,etc. Do you think there is a legal way to expose the people that perform these fictitious acts (I.e perhaps class action lawsuits against the crisis actors, etc).? Thanks again for all your efforts. Husni

A fat, crying woman under shock yells out a detailed story to the cameras, without stopping. It seems she practiced the script for a week or so. Such poor acting just causes pity. Someone should have said : ” Madame, please slow down. Fetch your script and come back for a second take, OK ?”

It took 3 hours for the police to proceed with an assault. 53 wounded
people lay officially inside the establishment, crying for help. Are there recordings of these desperate yells ? Fifty three folks !

I searched Orlando on You Tube (easy, fast, no sound, and no blood). Thank God, actually.

Was wondering what your take is on this. Veterans Today has it as most likely another false flag. Like you pointed out, many groups to benefit from this. The DEMS are pushing hard for gun control, Israel is ecstatic of more hatred towards Muslims, the DOD loves more war money, and the beat goes on. I was looking for ambulances and paramedics, but saw none. Then the BOZO, known as the President here, gets on TV asap and pushes gun control, never mentions anything else. He was cold and remorseless, and walked away fast. Meanwhile, the Congress and President and Homeland Insecurity are bringing in crateloads of questionable immigrants, some handled by religious groups no less (raking in the dough).

I have not seen any evidence, but I am a bit ’over-the-hill’(62 yrs old) when it comes to comprehensive internet searches. However, I asked my computer savvy 24 yr-old son, and he has not found any videos of the carnage inside nor out. He did suggest to me that if anyone did capture anything on their cell phone, etc., that the police/authorities would immediately confiscate it. I don’t know though… Please let us peons know if you find anything remotely credible. thank you PCR

I appreciate readers bringing to my attention more evidence that suggests we are witnessing another drill, like the announced drill at the Boston Marathon, turned into a fake terrorist attack. That indeed might be what the Orlando shooting was. However, remember, our purpose is not to disprove the official story, but to find evidence in its behalf.

So far all we have are official statements and testimony by what seem to be crisis actors. 103 people cannot be shot without there being real evidence.

It has to be somewhere.

My cautionary statement was that we should not believe massive terrorist attacks without evidence, especially when we know for an absolute fact that the government lied to us about Saddam Hussein, Assad, and Libya. These lies have kept us at work destroying Muslim countries for 15 years, with a consequence that Europe is being overrun with refugees from our wars based on nothing but the government’s lies.

It is not an unreasonable conclusion that a government that will lie to us about Iraq, Libya, Syria, the economic condition of the country and that will lie to the 9/11 Commission might also lie to us about Boston, Sandy Hook, San Bernandino, and Orlando.

My point is simply that we are given stories based not on visible evidence but on claims. These kind of events have to leave massive evidence, but somehow it is not visible.

To recap, we are trying to see if we can find real evidence that supports the official story. We are not trying to disprove the official story but to prove it.

If we cannot prove the story, we are entitled to disbelieve it.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts’ latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West, How America Was Lost, and The Neoconservative Threat to World Order.

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  • My first thought upon hearing about this event was “here’s the false flag”. Then I noted later on, the child who drowned by alligator was at Disneyland. Interesting that the son of the shooter is wearing a Disneyland shirt in the only photo we’ve seen of him…

    Then I feel sickened by it all.

    • You have a right to feel sickened…
      Your not alone.

  • Want to know if they are false flags? Find out how long the bio-hazard crews were there cleaning up the crime scene. They would be there for a couple of weeks cleaning up the blood and other particulates in the club. When the SC shooting happened, I thought it was odd there was a massacre on Wed and they were having services in the same church on Sunday! 4 days after the shooting and no remediation teams cleaning up the blood and painting the place which would take days and days! :roll:

    • OK, cool.. let us know what you find out.

    • Mr Bobby ~ So Nice To Find Another Realist…

      Cant hide the truth Mnr O-dama and friends….

      Problem is these goons are gonna have to expand on their ” FEAR & DISARM TACTICS ”
      Which means they will at some stage resort to a ” Bigger Real kill Shot With Lots More Casualties ”
      As time runs out on these Scumbags….

      I will be honest wit you guys ~ im a ” Trump voter ” BUT I DON’T TRUST HIM AS FAR AS I CAN SEE HIM…I DONT TRUST ANY POLITICIAN for that matter….

  • What the biggest disappointment of ALL is that ALL Law enforcement, Fire Dept, EMS, Doctors an the Hospital Betrayed their Fellow Americans, Family an Friends, An for WHAT ?
    There’s not enough Money in the World to Pay for what you Have Done.

  • If one lives in Orlando area, consider visiting wakes & funerals, and cross-reference and names released.

  • “The veteran said that the rifle can be reloaded in 5 seconds: one clip is dropped out, another put in, and the bolt released.”

    It’s not called a “clip”, it’s called a “magazine”. I can’t believe a veteran would have called it a clip.

    Yes, Orlando is a staged false flag, drill. I don’t believe anyone was killed. They’re all acting.

    • Millions of people identify the clip as the magazine. Even Veterans.

      • No they don’t.
        The clip bit comes from back in the days of the M-1 Garand rifle which used an 8 round clip to hold the cartridges for loading into the magazine. That is WW-2 and Korea, not today.
        Vets usually refer to mags, not clips.

    • You’re wrong dude! Magazine is the official name of what is commonly referred to as a clip. Obviously you are not a vet either. Inferring that you are an authority or at minimum more knowledgeable about specific subjects than you are, speaking about things you really no nothing about is the behavior of a fool. I don’t honestly think you are one. I’m not saying this as an attack on your character, nor do I judge you for this common mistake.

      We as carnal human beings are a prideful bunch. We love to be revered. As a consequence we often embellish or exaggerate points to drive our position out of the ball park. We like to prevail in the politically correct social environment being fully aware we are participating in competitive communication. Posters and responders who are posturing for status so often are relying on self stroking maneuvers which in the long run hinder their ability to actually articulate a true depiction of any given situation, let alone their own true position.

      The reason I pointed this out is not to ridicule, or falsely claim I like every other human being am not guilty of the same, I wanted to highlight today, on the weekly Sabbath, that we all need to put ourselves in check. These seemingly innocent challenges to the validity of others, using this as a mechanism to discredit them or elevate oneself is destructive to the common cause.

      Correction and debate is healthy conversation that we honestly need in order to grow and prosper but there must be reasonable limits. Perhaps if we all agree to build one another up and avoid tearing one another down we can better concentrate on the real issues before us. Diversity in views or perception is great, however diversity in truth is not!

      Wishing you all a most spiritually prosperous Sabbath,

      A Student of the Word

      • Typo correction: Was; “speaking about things you really no nothing about is the behavior of a fool.” should be “speaking about things you really KNOW nothing about is the behavior of a fool.” Sorry for the mistake!

      • Where exactly is it commonly referred to as a clip? Clips are devices used to hold cartridges for insertion into a magazine. Calling a Volkswagen a Rolls Royce doesn’t make it one.

      • Wow ! Anoymouse you sound just like a politician…..

        Never forget to take the splinter out of your eye ~ before taking the plank out of our’s ok !

      • WHO CARES!!! Mine’s bigger than yours; let’s all have a pissing contest.

    • I’ve had guns all my adult life — many of them semi-automatic including Ar’s and M4′s. I’ve always used the term “clip” for magazine.

    • Honestly, WHO THE HELL CARES?!! Regardless of what you call it, everyone will get the point.

  • They are propaganda masters who know the public will buy it because that’s how it’s scripted and most people believe everything they see on TV. It must take hundreds of participants and actors to pull off these events. And when anyone starts to question the details, out come the victims’ names, photos, what they did, crying family and friends, and finally, the funerals. Like Sandy Hook, if it was fake and there was no massacre, where do all the non-dead go when the news cycle ends? It’s probably our tax dollars paying their salary, giving them new identities, safe haven in the place of their choice, a limo ride out of town and a very serious non-disclosure agreement. Do they just then disappear into the woodwork? Or do they get better acting jobs, based on their performances? If no one died, there have to be “dead” people walking. Or maybe they were all contrived, and the mourning families are actors, and this was just a bad movie we were all forced to watch over and over to have our emotions yanked and sense of reason and civility assaulted. If that’s the case, then they are going to great lengths to accomplish a larger goal, making this a beta test, just like all the others.

    And this isn’t about gun control; it’s to put more guns and assault weapons in the hands of total novices, this time in the LGBT community (I mean, come on!) in a backlash they knew they could predict (and they had the Shoot Back signs all ready to go.) It’s to stir up more anger, distrust, fear and resentment, so when a big enough fire is lit (try Republican convention), it will spread across the nation’s cities in rage, destruction and death. The more guns, the more mayhem and need for, you guessed it, martial law. Just saw a video on thousands of Martial Law is in Effect metal signs delivered to Chicago and being distributed to military bases.

    • The NWO is already here.

  • Trump has won and if the GOP or the DNC tries to take it away, there will hell to pay. Traitors need to be tried and hung.

  • It’s getting to the point that the only way to really know the truth of any matter is to have been there in person, which I suspect is also by design to spread confusion and distrust.

  • The guy in black also gives a thumbs up at the end lol.

  • The guy in the red shoes is a real hoot. Dorothy got out of Oz back to Kansas in her red slippers, now we must all disarm to be safe when the government wanting to disarm us miserably failed to protect us from the attack in the first place.
    Most sad.

  • 1.) No ambulances. 2.) People declared dead at the scene. TWO POSITIVE PROOFS FOR FALSE FLAG. No one can declare anyone dead but doctors (or if it is completely, blatantly obvious as in a decapitation.) In a real massacre, there would be ambulances and helicopters (to take the victims to other hospitals). Think about a room full of 103 people and the single shooter must hit EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, KILLING HALF WITHOUT BEING APPREHENDED, even by effeminates.

    • Such BS. People can be declared dead at the scene by several individuals, not just doctors. Quit blindly repeating what you read on far-out conspiracy web sites without understanding the truth. And no, he didn’t have to hit EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. There were over 300 people there, so he only had to hit one in three.

  • Someone please check the nearby funeral homes if they have 50 or more of dead bodies in their service right after the shooting. There got to be trace of the whereabout of those bodies. Also the injured patient hospitalized nearby hospitals. This is getting ridiculous. I’ll not trust any stories until someone shows the evidence that there are 50 bodies in the nearby funeral homes.

  • No ambulances, no helicopters, no bodies, no proof. Crisis actors everywhere, with their own IMDB pages, including the supposed shooter, who was in a fake documentary about the BP oil spill. Camera crews of multiple news channels were allowed to enter the supposed shooter’s home and rummage through his apartment a day after the false flag event happened. Silly story of a jihadi Rambo who was able to kill 49 people, wound 53 more, all the while calling into a local news channel to chat with a producer, text on social media, and hold off the FBI and SWAT teams for 3+ hours by himself.

    This is the dumbest, craziest, most ridiculous story I’ve ever heard and it’s sad that the majority of Americans are still buying everything the mainstream media feeds us. Goes to show how successful the CIA has been in brainwashing and conditioning the American populace.

    • How many were shot and killed by the police or by the breeching charge they blew the wall in with?

  • Once again — these “false flag” kooks fail on multiple fronts.

    They claim that THOUSANDS of first responders, police, and eye witnesses are part of these extraordinarily elaborate “hoaxes”. They fail to explain the existence of THOUSANDS of grieving family members, who presumably are also in on the scam. And most of all, they fail to provide a reason for such a laughably loony scheme.

    Some people have too much time on their hands…

    • Please provide the ballistic evidence that any of this took place.
      Is that too much to ask?

    • b

      Explain why the injured were being carried back towards the night club?? By civilians no less, not the paramedics. Give me a logical reason for that!!

  • Why don’t you people take the lists of names you can find and prove those people are alive or never existed… How about that?

    I get tired of the ultimate conspiracy theory crap.

    I wonder what it is like to have a family member murdered, especially a child like at Sandy Hook, and know that there will be a dedicated segment of the Internet working hard year after year to say you are a liar. That you are a hoax. That your child isn’t dead…

    How hard would it be to uncover real evidence of a cover up in a mass shooting? from the comfort of your own home…?

    How many interviews could you do with the family of alleged victims?

    How many interviews with staff at local hospitals? Morgues? Funeral homes? Cemeteries?

    Lying about killing Osama Bin Laden would be easy to hide. Only a handful of bodies claimed – none with family or neighbors or coworkers in America – and only 1 key body to keep out of site…

    A claim of 50 people killed?

    Why would it take a professional reporter to produce actual evidence of a hoax…?

    No matter how it’s turned — the prism of our society all point to the fact — we’re f-ed as a culture…. Lost, lost, lost…

    • This is all very amusing to me in a very dark way; I personally know someone who has to attend 3 funerals because of the Orlando shooting. One of the people lived in the same county I do, and people living in my county were talking about the funeral for said person.

      I can’t prove what I just said is true; but neither can anyone here prove that no one died in Orlando.

      • You’re a man of the Word, Smith. You know you’re not supposed to lie.

        That’s worth something right there. Value in membership.

        I believe you.

  • They (the government) made it legal for mass media to broadcast manufactured (downright false) news. So you are all f**ked either way. Nobody is responsible for such false flag broadcasting. And, all the while, the perpetrator will be laughing behind the scene.

  • For the record, since BIN has existed, EVERY mass shooting in the US is a false flag, according to BIN.

    Really think that’s true?

    Because THAT starts to go into conspiracy to me.

  • There’s always such a weird undercurrent of optimism in these stories, that the government is just a cosy TV show that’s faking stuff in a friendly, careful way and nobody even died and everyone’s okay. Why take the risk of somebody screwing up? If the government needed a real false flag they would send a guy in with a gun to create an undebunkable massacre, to actually kill people, and then just fake his death. Or, y’know, kill him too.

    • It’s weird, alright..

      ..with an economist-turned-sleuth leading this charge, one who soars the stratosphere of insiders.. The agenda world.
      “Of course we did it. But it wasn’t “REAL”. smirk. (nice disclaimer at the end)

      One wicked Game Show.. brought to you by your game show host – PCR

      Will the next contestants come to the stage… Hi there, what’s Your name? Get ready to play…..

  • Bull I know people who lost family there. Stop saying every act of a nut job is a GD false flag, sometimes people are sick twisted f#cks and do stupid horrible sh!t. Have the decency to let these people mourn for their loss before you turn this tragedy into a circus.

    • Syco.. this has nothing to do with your comment:

      Odd.. sometimes I really like your new icon, other times, not so much.. has nothing to do with you, just been wondering how it affects the way I read your comments. heh..

      Re comment: I think this actually is a “false flag”. But I always grimace when the circus comes to town.

      You see, I have this thing about clowns.. they be creepy. Unless it’s a Bad Clown. makes me laugh.

      • I would tend to agree but people I know and trust lost loved ones there, it happened, who was behind it is another story, but it did happen.

        • I totally agree with your sentiment. We see this same dynamic play out every time.

          ..and in the “end”.. nothing is resolved, really. Those guys work their game with skill.

        • Oh, crap! Most importantly, Syco..

          I’m sorry for your friends’ loss. A real tragedy, Strength to all who suffer.

    • Well yes thats true but we are talking about two people that were not even connected trying to carry out attacks on the same day and James Wesley had no connection to the killer so what are the odds of that ?

      It is now being reported that the killer had tried to date some boys that he went to school with and he had been visiting the gay bar for several years so in this case it looks like the ” sick twisted f#cks and do stupid horrible sh!t” killed hs own but thats not being reported on CNN news is it now.

      I don’t think he made any 911 phone calls to link him to ISIS and that the CIA is giving us a pack of lies using fake recordings that any school kids could make using a computer in his bedroom.

      And then, well Doctor Kelly took his own life after building just fell down and one was not even hit by a plane.

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