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Texas Church Massacre: Who Really Did It And Why?

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Another Brutal Massacre Carried Out In Texas Against Christian Patriots

State of the Nation

It’s no surprise that such an event took place on this long anticipated weekend.  That this senseless slaughter occurred in Texas country is also not unexpected, unfortunately.  Our sincere condolences go to the great people of the Lone Star State, and especially to those families affected by this terrible tragedy. 28 dead after shooting at Sutherland Springs church

AntiFa and their terrorist co-conspirators have made it clear that the hot phase of the Purple Revolution would commence this weekend.

Actually, the hot phase of their seditious rebellion began with the Mandalay Massacre in Las Vegas on another Sunday on October 1.

Did the perps intentionally choose the Lord’s Day to perpetrate these horrific mass casualty events?

Deadliest Church Shooting in American History Kills More Than 20 in Texas

If so, this can only be the product of a totally godless movement that is typical of communist revolutions.  Russia was terrorized by the same tactics and strategy during the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, exactly 100 years ago.

New World Order agenda

The globalists know that there is only one way to effectively take over any nation; and that is to terrorize the population with a steady stream of mass shootings, bombings, wildfires via arson, as well as other manmade disasters and fake natural catastrophes. For example:

CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES: Geoengineered Firestorms Terrorize to Advance the Agenda(s)

This has always been their MO, and it’s unlikely to change at this late date.  Their methods have been tried and tested over millennia.  Generating maximum fear is the NWO cabal’s primary technique to scare a populace into total submission.

After all, when one is not even safe praying with their church congregation on Sunday, what is safe anymore?!

The globalists have already shot up and fire-bombed many other churches, both full of parishioners and empty.  They have shot up their fair share of malls and corporate offices, homes and apartment complexes, college campuses and elementary schools.

We are dealing with real demonic characters here who are way beyond criminally insane psychopaths.  They place no value on human life, except those that they deliberately take to advance their malevolent agenda.

What to do

After the Vegas massacre at the HARVEST, it’s clear that law enforcement, both local and national, is incapable of protecting the U.S. citizenry.  In the case of the FBI, it’s apparent that they will spend more time covering up mass shooting plots than exposing them.

Perhaps the following article explains why this was the case in Vegas, as it has been for numerous false flag operations over the years. 30 FBI Agents checked into Mandalay Bay Hotel 1-2 days before Vegas shooting?

The bottom line here is that something has to change — FAST — or else those responsible will simply continue this “Chinese water torture” on the American people.  There will then come a day when the citizenry will relinquish all their rights and liberties for the sake of protection … from the very government that commits these false flag black operations and psyops.  Be sure to read: “FALSE FLAGS” are LEGAL PROPAGANDA PRODUCED by the Department of Defense

Disarming the public

As always, this mass shooting was also about taking away the guns.  The globalists are determined to vacate the Second Amendment.  And they will execute as many false flags as is necessary to accomplish that objective. 

FALSE FLAG ATTACK: Texas Church Massacre Was Another Black Operation & Psyop

The New World Order agenda can only be fully implemented after Americans are stripped of their weapons.  The planned One World Government simply cannot be established until gun rights in the USA are revoked.

This is the greatest impediment for the NWO cabal, and they will continue to carry out MCIs (mass casualty incidents) until the American people are sufficiently softened up.  Therefore, it’s imperative that every patriot and gun advocate keep the pressure on their federal and state representatives to preserve the 2nd Amendment.

There is now a very stealthy movement afoot to surreptitiously ban guns, blue state by blue state.  When this phase of their insidious scheme is completed, they will then go after the red states.  They know that, after a certain number of shocking mass shootings, people everywhere will become numb and simply give up.

Special Note:
It’s common knowledge within intelligence circles and flag officer ranks that gung-ho enlisted men make the best candidates for the CIA’s MKUltra mind control program. The stealth programmers take these young, impressionable soldiers and easily transform them into brainwashed assassins.  Through an intense regimen of psychoactive drugs (which are secretly administered in the mandatory vaccination program), these unaware victims are then subjected to rigorous methods of mind control programming.  These unwitting recruits are told that they have just joined an elite group of special forces so that they will stay the course and graduate as a future assassin.  They are imprinted with specific informational, visual and auditory cues which, when properly triggered, will serve as marching orders to take out the pre-planned target.  Because these recruits are chosen based on their tours of duty in various theaters of war, they all have been medically diagnosed with PTSD (Post traumatic stress disorder).  In this way their triggered rampage stateside can be explained away as just another ex-military guy who snapped.  And they never know who their true masters were that covertly controlled their calculated destiny of death and destruction.



The incidence of mass casualty events is quickly increasing.  There is every indication that this is the form that the CIA-directed color revolution (read: civil war) will take.  The leadership of the Left is comprised of cold-blooded cowards and would never expose themselves unnecessarly.  They always look to others to do their dirty work.

George Soros, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, John Podesta, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, et al. are just a few of the co-conspirators who are determined to overthrow the Trump Administration. These traitors will utilize every terrorist method to achieve their goal, just as they will employ any terrorist who is mercenary enough to kill for the ongoing Purple Revolution.  BEWARE: The Purple Revolution Comes To America

Because of the degree of involvement of Deep State on the American battlefield,  it’s really critical that each and every patriot stay vigilant.  Any sign of trouble needs to be spread across cyber-space as soon as it appears.  Local communities need to bond as never before, particularly in the small towns and rural areas like Sutherland Springs, Texas.

The nation is truly at an historic juncture.  The forces at work are so powerful and so many that only the Highest Power can see US through this tunnel of darkness.  Hence, if ever there was a time to put one’s hands together and pray — fervently — this is it.

State of the Nation
November 5, 2017

Video Reference

Infowars Alex Jones gets it right in this video about the Sutherland Springs shooting


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  • 2QIK4U

    I believe at this point in time that this is what the crisis actors were hired in Texas for . After the Vegas Farce maybe containing an event in a closed area minimalises chances of random people recording a bunch of non professional actors… Once again the laughable ANTIFA protests are filled with people that fail to answer any questions and you see they have no knowledge if they really supported this crap.

    • 2QIK4U

      It used to pay $500 a day to be a crisis actor now it’s only $200 and SOROS still hasn’t paid most of them. Lol


        You and me go back a little ways 2 QUICK.

        Guess where I live.

        Knock off the crisis actor talk and think more deeply. I could literally have taken errant lead from this event and I GUARANTEE you I am not in the mood for crisis actor talk.

        Vegas and the previous events probably utilized a combination. But don’t keep driving down the bullshit path of this ‘nobody gets killed’ fantasy.

        The perp was seen by numerous witnesses and a local fella engaged and slew a killer.

        That’s what just happened here in Texas.

        • 2QIK4U

          Hope im wrong. Read below ∨ Beef

        • 2QIK4U

          I’ll ask LEAK PROJECT to try and interview these people as he just drove there and caught some dodgy acting police on camera and YouTube already forced him to remove it.. If you live there beef you also should talk to LEAK PROJECT. He’s very honest and might live next door to you?

          • 72FX


          • BEEF SUPREME

            Globalist powers are really going to INVENT a story where two good old boys who never even met before, get together in an instant and on a whim to form a two-man mobile tactical response team…

            …and manage to SHOOT, KILL AND CAPTURE an active gunman.

            Because the globalist powers are actually interested in showing us what armed and mentally-prepared MEN can do in a situation like this.

            Is that really the argument I’m hearing?

      • 2QIK4U

        Note my first sentence. At this point in time…. Can you show me what the hired crisis actors that were only hired for the 4th and 5th were used for instead? SOROS only pays when something dodgy is going on. The alleged shooter was a staunch ANTIFA member and his FAKEBOOK cover is an ak47 and the ANTIFA flag. Did SOROS pay everybody then tell them to stay home? I doubt it beef ,at the moment im still undecided but I follow what evidence is present right now and it looks like another show (AT THE MOMENT) Look at it this way my friend, if im right then nobody got hurt but if im wrong it could be that this man was upset that ANTIFAS day of civil war turned out a complete failure and he could have really done it but it’s showing the usual signals.. Im not going off beliefs im going off evidence that leads all the way to this event mate.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Sheriff’s deputies, FBI, ATF, Texas Rangers and DPS (Texas State Police) were not too quick to arrive on scene.

          Therefore, PLENTY of local boys got interviewed by local news before law enforcement could put the squeeze on outgoing information. This event was LOADED with eyewitnesses. The best information has all come out. The church is currently BESET BY A MULTITUDE of local folks and none of the dead have been brought out yet. The only thing we’re lacking is a clearer picture of the shooter himself — identified by MANY witnesses… despite tactical gear and a mask, the shooter was pursued and was not lost sight of once he left the church property. A high speed chase ensued, with LOCAL BOYS in pursuit — not law enforcement. There was no patsy in this case.

          LISTEN to the interviews. Do a little character judging. Do a little body language judging.

          This is not a crisis actor event. And the knee-jerk crowing about crisis actors really needs to be reigned the hell in. You probably have access to much of the same information in Australia that we do right here in Texas.

          Turn off the Youtube commentators and do some pondering.

          • 2QIK4U

            Im definitely waiting for any information to trickle through. I seriously urge you to contact the LEAK PROJECT on YouTube beef I think he would definitely interview or at least have a proper in depth conversation about this because he was there trying to interview people and basically was bumrushed by police officers … One point. You said police didn’t appear fast which isn’t usually the case. They all fly in unless they already know what’s happening. With your local knowledge can you show me any texas training event that all these paid actors would have been doing? If I can find out what and where these paid actors ended up I can strike it off the suspicion list… As usual we won’t get proper reference points to analyze for usually a week. Remember though mate things can seem real right in front of your eyes. And for once it’s happening around you instead of just through the computer screen. Keep your eyes open no matter what beef. I won’t go into it but the story that apparently Happened inside was like a movie.

          • 72FX

            Thank you for your words of sanity. Unfortunately, the wild theories start flying around way too quickly. It’s all designed to try to diminish the validity of true critical thinkers.
            This could have been my family. It hurts to see the crazy stories. It also hurts to see this get politicized so quickly.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            This is Texas, 2 Quick.

            Texas is big. Small towns don’t have their own police departments in many instances and rely on county police services. Counties in Texas cover vast areas and it is perfectly normal and logical to assume it will take the police several minutes to arrive at ANY call, no matter the nature of the call. Where I live, it would take the police about fifteen minutes to arrive unless they happened to be nearby when they were notified. Everyone out in the county here knows they are on their own and must do what has to be done in the gap between an event followed by a call to the police and the time when the police actually reach you. That’s one of the reasons everyone around here is armed.

            Twist that into a conspiracy to your own detriment.

        • Hayduke

          No one was hurt or killed in Vegas. It was all an illusion created by the Draco alien lizards in New Mexico who co-opted the minds of the Bigfeet. When you see a Bigfeet in person, you get temporary amnesia created by the Dracos. They also use this to cloak all of their UFO’s.

          So no, there are no crisis actors per se. :eek:

          • 2QIK4U

            Were they all little Grey’s? :mrgreen:

          • Ugly

            This guy nailed it. Nobody was really shot. There was just mass Stigmata wounds occurring on people almost simultaneously. .

          • 72FX

            mitch51, There is nothing funny, nor anything to joke about with this situation. Save the stupid comments for stupid stories like the ones KOS puts up or something like that.

      • Equalizer

        Bull’s eye 2Q… Just doesn’t pay to be a crisis actor now a day… no worries, Soros just moved about $18 billion to the Open Society or better known as the “Treasonous Fascist ANTIFA Society”.

        • 2QIK4U

          I warned everybody a week before this happened. I didn’t know where but I knew when. Texas 4th and 5th Soros pays crisis actors…. Has any other event happened like a hospital training day? No. This seems to be the only event. There’s not one single bullet hole on the church. And they say a ten minute Firefight happened out front and police say he shot up the front of the church before entering. Video evidence proves different. Try and warn people and get shot down for it… It’s noted on BINNED Texas was organised a week before it happened

    • 2QIK4U

      RITCHIE FROM BOSTON just had his channel terminated from showing NO BULLET HOLES at Texas church! But you can see this if you go to RITCHIE FROM BOSTON II. with all the controlled media now present. Look at this church’s YouTube channel and they’ve never ever had more than twenty people there. Let alone fifty dead. LOL. The lying cowboy can’t say who flagged him down and now dissapears same as the Mexican security guard in Vegas. Now it’s just a Farce. Pastor and wife weren’t there and nobody was qaulified to run the sermon. Pastors daughter wasn’t meant to be there. They say he opened fire on the front of the church where NO BULLET HOLES PRESENT. Victims report two people walked in the back door. Again like Vegas the story has changed multiple times and police version of events are different to “victims ” NO MARKS ON CHURCH AT ALL! FALSE FLAG DRILL 100%. RITCHIE FROM BOSTON II. HAS VIDEO EVIDENCE OF NO BULLET HOLES ANYWHERE…. CRISIS ACTORS HIRED FOR THIS DATE IN TEXAS. EVIDENCE NEVER LIES.

    • 2QIK4U

      Just discovered this event was advertised in the new KINGSMAN movie still in cinemas. 11.17. This has been advertised for months. :(

  • unidentified

    the killer is dead so we’ll never know why he planned the church attack

    • 2QIK4U

      Standard method of operation. Just like the other events. It wraps it up so the Government have control of the narrative and can twist it any way they please. Just like all the other events the “criminal” never gets to tell the world why… Remember that uber driver that said the uber symbol turned into a bull and told him to shoot complete strangers? It’s the same technology that made the news reporter dressed as the statue of liberty collapsed on air a few days ago… Direct energy weapons. To many people have it happen for all to see.

  • allendaves

    2Thess 2:10..because they received not THE LOVE of the truth,… 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    -“ONE” not triune: Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT….. (NOTE: And yes, the specific Greek and Hebrew words used also and only define one person contrary to the ridiculous obfuscation attempts of some!?!)
    PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (text book examples of prov 26:12)

    -PART 5 Ecjad Ecad ,y God God is Echad!….:The Greek word pros in Jn 1:1 does not inherently demand multiple different persons because:

    1. The definitions (without forced conclusions stuffed in) are just as equally valid as reference to parts of the same person (modalisim) Your head and your right arm have close relationship to each other; can be facing, towards, relating to, moving to, in the direction of, to, unto, looking to; even at home with, a living union, in the presence of, a common ground, closeness They are still both distinct and different from each other and yet they are of both the same person. Ironically the scriptures use the very same terms to describe father and son.

    2. Ironically and most hypocritically, the trinitarians are trying to appeal to the anthropomorphisms (they claim this passage implies) to demonstrate different persons while at the same time denying the very anthropomorphisms that God himself specifically in scriptures uses to define the son and the son’s relationship to the father. Apparently only the literal anthropomorphisms that trintiarins “see’ exist while the one’s that God himself uses should not be taken too literal or too anthropomorphic or seriously. Is the face anthropomorphic and or literal face or just some metaphor? Either way the problem for trinitarians still exist and simply does not cease with linguistic distractions. There are many different types of faces; face of a clock; face of a mirror; face of one’s palm. Further, the face of one’s palm would be totally consistent with the anthropomorphism that God uses when discussing his own right arm as the son! So either way, a literal and or anthropomorphic face or a metaphorical face in close relationship only leaves the trinitarinas peddling an empty argument hoping no one notices the fact that this argument is nothing more then delusional smoke and mirrors for “the faithful” and for everyone else, well, just “never mind that man behind the curtain”.

    3. You cant appeal to your own desired and or preconceived conclusions as evidence that your methodology in arriving at your conclusions are valid. [ie the use of Jn 1:18 et al as proof that Jn1:1 supports different persons in Jn1:18 et al or visa versa ] How difficult can they make these simple things? The God in heaven is a he but cannot be known except by the he who is the same God in flesh! So why can’t they be the same he again? It should not be difficult to understand since:

    A. The same God who is in heaven is on earth and the difference need only be of circumstance which at least we know that much to be factually true [spirit only v spirit in human flesh] There is no further need or demand for different individual persons since all the different he’s are in fact the same HE!. Trying to claim that God is multiple different “He(s)” who make up the one being either leaves your God to be a “it” that consist of different he(s) or a“God being” who is a he while simultaneously consisting of different individual he(s) [Father-he; Son=he; Holy Spirit=he].

    B. If you find no difficulty in accepting that God is a he that consist of father son and holy spirit also referred to each as a different he and yet all the same he then what is the point to claiming different persons again? How is the multitude of hes who are all the same he show or demand different persons rather than different circumstances of the same person who is in fact “HE”?

    In any case, the trinitarian inconsistency and or incoherence will never be resolved by simply chalking it all up to “how great thou art” unless you willingly and blindly “drink the cool aid” calling it “faith”. True faith is in the words of God (including the specific anthropomorphism God himself uses) not in wild created imaginations of three different persons with different minds, locations and instructions for each other that is somehow not a pantheon of three gods who are “one”!….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh! Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4

    -JOHN 14: 8-20 ….[Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father] ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
    Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”

    -The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural) Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense

    -Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5; TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…

    -This should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……Today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into the image of your vain imaginations!
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    -If you ask most people what the Good news or Gospel is they will probably tell you about the virgin birth or Christ death burial and resurrection. This would be rather humorous if it was not so sad considering that for the three and half years of Christ ministry he does not mention hardly ever. However, Christ does spend a lot of time preaching out of the OT scriptures. Now imagine given a report or manual to read and understand, that makes reference to and even quotes other source material and then ignoring that source material when it comes to defining the context and meanings of words in the report or manual you are trying to make sense of. If that seems dysfunctional that is because it is. This is, however, what most people are doing when it comes to understanding sound NT doctrine and or even what the Gospel message of Jesus was. The mystery of the gospel was not the death, burial and resurrection although it is part of it. In fact, death, burial and resurrection was the sign, the only sign, that Jesus gave to validate that the gospel message he was preaching all that time was true……and yet most deny it!?!?!

    -The “2nd coming”… “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 years I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 (in their lifetime) are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the Lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES. The “idea”/ doctrine that Jesus has not yet returned but “soon any day now soon” does not just make God out a liar; it is not just ridiculous but makes Christianity a mockery, A pathetic “ship of fools”!?!
    -The following example excerpt from Bertrand Russell: sometimes quoted by atheist et al and from his published work “Why I Am Not A Christian”
    Defects in Christ’s Teaching
    Having granted the excellence of these maxims, I come to certain points in which I do not believe that one can grant either the superlative wisdom or the superlative goodness of Christ as depicted in the Gospels; …. I am concerned with Christ as He appears in the Gospels, taking the Gospel narrative as it stands, and there one does find some things that do not seem to be very wise. For one thing, he certainly thought that His second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the people who were living at that time. There are a great many texts that prove that. He says, for instance, “Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of Man be come.” Then he says, “There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom”; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed that His second coming would happen during the lifetime of many then living. That was the belief of His earlier followers, and it was the basis of a good deal of His moral teaching. When He said, “Take no thought for the morrow,” and things of that sort, it was very largely because He thought that the second coming was going to be very soon, and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count. I have, as a matter of fact, known some Christians who did believe that the second coming was imminent. I knew a parson who frightened his congregation terribly by telling them that the second coming was very imminent indeed, but they were much consoled when they found that he was planting trees in his garden. The early Christians did really believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the second coming was imminent. In that respect, clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise.
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    #3 GOD LOVES EVERYONE; Jesus Died for “you”…… Just “come as you are”
    Does God love you?….”Probably” NOT!….and NO Jesus did not die for everyone!?!……There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups : A. The predestined damned B. the “many” called C. The “Few” Chosen
    Predestination….its true..its all true… God does NOT love everyone:
    Prov 8: 17. I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME …………
    1John 5:3. For THIS IS THE LOVE OF GOD, that we keep his commandments:
    (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD
    (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,
    (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
    will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”
    PS: “The world” that God so loved was not the Roman world nor the world of the Maya nor the world you imagined in your head that God specifically told them NOT TO LOVE!?!


    “whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be saved”
    ………So WHAT “NAME” did you “CALL UPON”?……
    Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD
    Ps 138:2. praise THY NAME … for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME -
    NOTE: God placed His “THE WORD” ABOVE all of God’s various NAMEs – and Jesus NAME IS called “THE WORD” no other name saves. The MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is “THE WORD”; Not letters that spell “word” but the sayings/ doctrine/commands. It does NOT say “thy word is given a name above other names because here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names.
    Isaiah 52:1. . 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ..What NAME do you “KNOW”.?
    1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./ Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…
    “AT the name OF JESUS”…..Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus…just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name…likewise the name OF JESUS is NOT the letters J-E-S-U-S. Why would anyone think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great and or “unspeakable )
    Rev 3:8 kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME; …
    .Jn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME And they have KEPT THY WORD.;
    THE WORD is THE NAME above every name that saves us 1Pt 3:21 The ONE baptism(Eph 4:5) is into THE WORD ( which is also baptism in the Holy spirit Jn 6:63the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit ) ..ALL the sayings doctrines and commands….what did THE WORD that became flesh command? (Mat 28:19)…..what did THE WORD exemplify? (Mat 3:15/ Jn 4:1)………among other things…..YES .water baptism is just as essential and necessary for much a part of salvation (1Pt 3:21) as is keeping one self away from works of the flesh (Gal 5:21)….In fact obedience to the command of water baptism is specifically identified as the act of calling on the name of the Lord (Col 2:12 “……though the operation[work] of God” CAN ANY MAN BE SAVED WITHOUT GOD WORKING ON HIM?) …..THE WORD OF GOD is the name of God that men call upon OR…OR ..they DENY with their disobedience
    The scriptures tell us almost nothing about the thief’s life. However, the scriptures tell us a great deal about Christ life……Jesus had been around for 3.5 years before the cross and was Baptizing (Jn 4:1-2 in fact He instructed his disciples to do so and did many more then John the Baptist ever did) …..Those who try to appeal to the thief on the cross assume the thief had never heard of Jesus preaching and had never ever been baptized….The burden of Proof is on those who say baptism is not essential! ………..You can’t claim a logically valid “non-essentiality” doctrinal argument on ANYTHING based on what the scriptures do not say and in spite of the things it clearly does state to the opposite effect!…That is like looking at the constitutional law and then basing a argument against a constitutional principle in law based on the fact that history did not record for us what some unknown cattle thief did or did not do a 150 years ago?!?! What??..Who cares?? We know what the constitution did say 150 years ago. I don’t know of any Law school that bases its teaching on constitutional law based on what history does not tell us about unknown cattle thieves!?! ..Jesus command, preached & practiced Baptism so did the apostles ….To build one’s theology on the fact that the scriptures do not tell us ANY detail(s) of the thief’s life before the cross (we know almost absolutely nothing about the thief!!) it is quite foolish and willfully ignorant of what the scriptures do say about baptism…….so those who try to use the thief are in effect building their house on the sand of what scriptures do not say about a thief in spite of what the scriptures do specifically tell us about baptism!?!… “Their damnation is just” comes to mind… OR

    Assertions and descriptions no matter how vivid and or emphatically employed demonstrate nothing.

    • 72FX

      allendavies, Your post has nothing to do with the story. You should be banned. Get your own website.

      • 2QIK4U

        It could have been my family to. If it was real. Go and look at the shot up church. Not one bullet hole anywhere. Video evidence doesn’t lie. Go and see for yourself on RITCHIE FROM BOSTON II. STFU TO. Never abuse people when your more clueless than who you abuse. The evidence is mounting once more. I warned everybody a week before. If you choose to live in dreamland enjoy being a blind minion for the deep state just as they want. If you choose to trust the corrupt police and media over somebody who warned you all a week prior its your issue. Don’t shoot the messenger shoot the people who created the message in the first place.

      • 2QIK4U

        And I give you an Upvote because I agree here. See im no asshole I don’t want your government to screw you weekly.

    • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

      Why the hell does the SPAM button not work on this guy?!!!
      He HAS to have set records for its being pushed! :mad:

      • 2QIK4U

        Spam button hasn’t worked for two months. Now it’s like pressing the walk button at traffic lights. It does nothing just pacifies the urge. Social psychological manipulation. I see examples everywhere. BINNED ACTIVATE THE SPAM BUTTON AGAIN PLEASE

        • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

          Down voted?!!
          The only thing wrong with that comment was the lack of a comma at “nothing just”.
          F-ing spelling police…. :mad:

          On a side note…
          Could we have a “French Authorities Please Thorazine KOS” button? :twisted:

  • truthseeker4809

    What puzzles me is why this guy living in New Braunfels, Texas went all the way to Sutherland Springs, Texas to kill people in the church. According to the report, the church was broadcasting in YouTube and perhaps what the preacher preaches in the church didn’t go well with the new world order agenda. Obviously the church was getting attention.
    You can’t put your finger in it but something stinks bad. There is no recognizable clear motive.


      “There is no recognizable clear motive.”

      THAT IS the new psyop.

      Go look at MINDHUNTER on Netflix, which was released on Netflix several weeks before Vegas. This is the new theme being smeared up into everyone’s face.

      Confusion and insanity is the new modus oporandi.

      CHAOS. (Out of which THEY will *bring* order.)

      Next time any of us hear ANYONE say “I didn’t think it could happen HERE…”

      …punch em in the face and disabuse em of an unhealthy measure of stupidity.

      It’s already happened EVERYWHERE.

      • Hayduke

        Totally agreed, Beef. When you’re right, you’re right. :eek:


        Yeah BEEF, ordo abnormal be risen no doubt about it.

  • Cousin_Jack

    Yeah something has to change but we know it won’t. People expect someone else to sort the problems out, rather than do their bit. All it takes are a couple of guys with a well thought plan to start something, start thinking.


      TEXANS are doing just fine in that regard.

      Everyone owns and most folks carry firearms around here.

      Just ask the piece of shit who just got shot through his KEVLAR.

      And just ask the Somali MUSLIMS who tried to open up at Pamela Geller’s ‘Draw the prophet Mohamed’ contest back in May of 2015.

      Or better yet, ask the ARMED TEXANS who shot them both dead before they could finish yelling ALLAHU AKBAR.

      • 2QIK4U

        If I lived there it would be the only state that can tell the other 49 to fk off. Plus it’s the closest thing to our outback. Id go broke buying guns though

        • RAINSCRYPT

          oh really you want to play “identity politics” here eh well ok ol’ devin was A TEXAN and from what I’ve seen you two already have a lot in common so sure move to texas cuz texas loves bloated people like you.

          Think I’m talkin’ shit? Yep. Wonder why?

          • 2QIK4U

            Rain. Remember what you congratulated ME on uncovering a week ago for this date in Texas? I warned you all. If you all choose to remain deep state minions doing thier lies for them it’s not my concern. You’d be quite surprised if I came over rain. Im not what you obviously think. Gaurantee id own my own range and store within six months. You’d be buying off me pretty soon mate :)

          • 2QIK4U

            Now Trump’s in I’m quite happy to travel there…

          • 2QIK4U

            And no rain you’d find im the very opposite to women bashing psych evicted from the Navy ANTIFA patsy. I like you but you obviously haven’t seen anything of me.. And if your ever my way id be happy to shout a beer with you and change your mind. Most of you are church goers and mainly mean well. People that have faith I’ll stand by and in front of to protect you but the controllers you all fall for that run your churches are evil motherfckrs and everyone knows it… Id die protecting a kind hearted church goer even though I know your all blinded by manipulation. Everyone sees it but Americans but I still like most of you… I’m not the asshole you might think but I can be…. To easily.

          • 2QIK4U

            I’ve had solid evidence BEFORE the event. Show me anywhere in Texas they were used rain and you would have a point but none of you have shown any proof anything happened at all compared to my new evidence of an unmarked church that’s never had more than twenty people in there. Look at the church’s YouTube channel and there’s never more than a dozen people let alone fifty dead plus extras! Like I have said I’M going off presented evidence and nothing more… Again the official story has changed several times. Sound familiar ? No good deed goes unpunished. Peace

      • 2QIK4U

        Im watching the cowboy who shot him and he was driving down the road so had nothing to do with anyone at church. He’s even saying there was already UNKOWN people shooting back and he somehow gets through all the other bullets flying and he takes him out. He’s also said that it seemed strange because they exchanged fire for a while with nobody hit.. A man with a gun ran up to the cowboy and commandeered his car forcing him to become involved. … He seems truthful but the event stinks like hell mate. But I’m not definitely saying anything. Time always tells (is this your article? Or just found yourself in the middle of this?)

      • 2QIK4U

        Watch the new KINGSMAN MOVIE. They advertised this months ago mate. If you want to see evidence of not one bullet hole in the church where he shot up the front before entering then a ten minute shootout ensued.. RITCHIE FROM BOSTON II. Channel hAs full video evidence of a nice clean unmarked church. The cowboy and media never mention this mysterious chaser.. Who he was.. Where did he dissapear to? And yes there are discrepancies between the cowboys version, the police version and especially the “victims” version. Pastor and wife gone. Daughter wasn’t supposed to be there and there was no qaulified member of the church to hold a sermon. .. How can church happen without the pastor?. Again im watching evidence. Watch the video of an unmarked church. Remember I mentioned the cowboy found it wierd that there’s a gun battle and he goes straight through it to the front with no bullets whizzing past only a pretend gun battle. Perfect patsy. It’s to clean. False flags people do die in but again I’ve seen no proof but an empty morgue truck.. I warned everybody a week before remember….

      • 2QIK4U

        What happened with the pipeline? Didn’t it leak and poison the Indians lake like they caught the POLICE doing? Where did the tribe end up?… Finnicums murder? All within a year… But you trust the police? Come on beef your smart.. They won’t stop till they take texas these liberal fks.. Like I was trying to say before. Texas should have seperated last year when they were going to. You basically are more financially secure than the other 49states put together. It’s the last place as an outsider where I know a good business will succeed because of local loyalty. I don’t see that in any other state.

  • Ideas Time

    My guess is this is yet another weekly false flag. They all are so why is anyone surprised? I have not seen any details but they are distraction us, Right?

  • Ideas Time

    My guess is this is yet another weekly false flag. They all are so why is anyone surprised? I have not seen any details but they are distraction us, Right? What would happen if the crisis actors started getting getting hit with lead? Pay not worth the job?

    • 72FX

      It was stupid enough the first time you said it.

  • Ideas Time

    ANTIFA players probably lost their funding or people are starting to get it. The real criminals reside in the foreign state called the gov.

  • Tedx

    You would think that by now any church in Texas would be filled with well armed men in attendance. Leaving weapons in the car is not what Jesus said you should do. Jesus claimed those who called him a man of peace were wrong, that he came to bring the sword: Matthew 10: 34

  • curious

    FBI /Cia/ Dark Cabal Consortium finally got it right. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. Just ONE MK Ultra mind controlled Zombie in full tactical gear with an Ar…and ONE tightly packed room full of innocent folk is all that is really needed to get the EVIL DEED done.a Not a concert of 5000 people and 7 shooters. Congrads Boys you may scare All of America to surrender All of their arms and change the Constitution yet.I Bet you REPTILIAN SATANIC NWO DEMONS will be doing one of these little False Flag Massacres every couple of weeks until the concentually IGNORANT and selfishly COMPLACENT American Society wets their shorts and panties enough to pass the new legislation you want. And I know you gotta move fast cause forces are mounting against you . Americans may be boastful and Ignorant and full of False Pride about their self absorbed nation but they are NOT TOTALLY STUPID andmore and more are starting to get the picture. WAKE UP AMERICA how do you like the shit they just dumped in your coffee cup. Like the new flavor. Your going to get an even larger doseage every month. IT”S YOUR U.S.TAX DOLLARS AT WORK. HOW DOES IT FEEL. They want to make sure there is no possible resistance movement when they create the final EMP crisis.. pull the rug right out from under your feet dissolve the U.S. govt. and turn you over to their now well armed and lawfully annointed LAP DOG the UNITED NATIONS for “re-education and sanitary disposal. That day is approaching like a runaway freight train. and to the trolls who will most assuredly challenge my commentary FFFF YOU. You should have been in THAT church. YOu would have been at least Useful THERE.

  • Pink Slime

    These are beastly animals. They attack only the weak, the injured, the unsuspecting prey. But if you showed them some TEETH they would not DARE attack you.

    Democraps KNOW THIS and work hard to disarm you so these “beastly animals” can have an advantage. Once they realize this they UNLEASH them on you.

    Try not to be a sitting DUCK, America. And always, always, vote the Democrap out, NOT IN!! BAN the party as most are DERANGED communist like this FAT Michael Moore type. :twisted:

    • 2QIK4U

      Well said.

  • Ideas Time

    The photo shopped guy has no ears, does that factor in? False flag and a Hoax brought to you by the parasites in the deep state.

    It is all a con job to take away your right to defend yourselves from the elite parasites who want you helpless against them. Get it?

    What is really crazy is they want you to believe that you will be safer if they are the only ones who have guns. Do you trust them?

    I don’t as I know they hate us and would gladly kill off anyone who challenges their reign of terror.

    • Hayduke

      Are you really this moronic or are you trolling? It’s kind of hard to tell. :cool:

  • Freeus

    Mk Ultra is in use and has been for ages. The globalist elite/Central Bankers AKA U.N. are livid Trump was voted in and citizens are waking up to their Trojan horse takeover. NWO globalist are full steam ahead with brainwashing media propaganda and take the guns from people lies. Perhaps if they themselves were targeted it might balance their killing fields. Put the fear into the perpetrators.

  • Man

    Of course it is a False Flag crisis act made by the NWO because it is a white American.

    If it was a a muslim who shot it, then it is real

    But i do like the investigative nature of BIN, referencing a fake facebook account and Stating antifa did it while the police quoted that they had no motivation as of yet

    • Man

      Oh and of course the las vagas shooting wasn’t far enough to get gun regulation so i guess this does….

  • patann

    If I am responding to a fake news, report, please don’t disregard the truth of this message, Amen…Apb, The RAM

    Prophecy Link

    I can’t say I know, but a night ago, I saw the words, Ceta Terra, when I research it, there was something about a harvest, one or another meaning, beware, Apb

    Early To Mighty, The Fields Are White Unto Harvest 11/06/2017
    All Hail To The Bride Now Reigning In Heaven, Readying The Specialty Stone, The Antichrist Murderer

    Listening Too, John Starnes, “Midnight Cry,” to S

    Self Need To Be Pound Into The Dust, Ye, Must Be Born Again,

    -Someone asked, why was he able to have a weapons cache of this caliber? The sunlight of Holy Spirits, 2015, witnessed escaping none believers southeast, this pit stop into complete exodus, as they exited the Bride skyward, truly an outbreak of mortuary is come, that can’t be settled with a gun, (with none repentance), beware!

    -A Broken Heart, A Broken and Contrite Spirit, An American Exodus, Are The Only Sacrifices God Will Bless, Pray! Ps. 51, 71, II Chron. 7, Dan. 9, St, Jn. 17

    The Higher Gate North, The Mountain, Sunlight In Heaven, Let My People Exodus, beware, Apb

    -Why, because this is America, the land of the free to open, carry as long as you don’t hurt anybody, only all have sinned. Having Adam’s blood lineage whose heart at any given time is like a staged time bomb going off and off; with eyes wide shut you and your loved ones are just sitting ducks; this victim of it’s gun laws into ravenous gun violence, its collateral damage, get it, get Jesus and ascend out of it, America’s D-day come, see more here,

  • Man

    apparently, the gunman had a row with mother in law

  • Christian T

    This is very reminiscent of the church massacre scene in the first Kingsman movie, done under mind control. If you consider that the scene was set to Skynyrd’s Freebird then that puts the predictive programming very much in the South. You could have pinpointed it if they had rolled the credits to T for Texas. Did they? I don’t remember.

    • 2QIK4U

      BOOM! I recently discovered that same thing. Also when everyone is killing each other on the baseball field the numbers 11 and 17 keep lining up as someone dies… There’s many other signals and symbols that also point to the 11.17 I watched it the day it was released and subconsciously it felt real familiar but the penny only dropped yesterday.

  • Andy

    a thought and a prayer for the deceased, the injured and their families :cry:

    yeah, i’m atheist, but alot of you guys aren’t


      This fat piece of shit killer was an atheist yesterday, Andy.

      But today he’s not an atheist anymore. Today he only wishes he could go back and UNDO what he did yesterday.

      • Andy

        atheists and the religious alike commit vile crimes Beef – family violence brought this about, not atheist violence (nor religious)

        he’s not an atheist anymore, he’s dead and gone forever and today he wishes nothing, as dead people do not wish at all

        now, how about that thought n prayer for the victims & families?

        • BEEF SUPREME

          “…now, how about that thought n prayer for the victims & families?”

          That’s all good and well, Andy — and I mean that sincerely; nor do I doubt your sincerity. But I can’t, and I won’t, ever try to meet you on any kind of an atheist middle-ground.

          Tubby scum is in misery right now, under the darkness of the penalty for his crimes. He isn’t enjoying any sweet oblivion — but I’ll bet he’s sure wishing he was. And right now, as I write these words, he’s begging for another chance to get it right. He’ll be denied that chance.. And he’ll begin paying what, for him, amounts to the kind of bill hopefully none of us will ever be required to pay.

          I would implore you to think this thing through. If you’re right, you’ll never even know it. But if God is right, you’ll never forget it.

          There are no atheists in hell.

          • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

            Welcome back Beef.
            Well said. :cool:

          • Andy

            i didn’t ask for any compromise, merely a thought and a prayer for the deceased, the injured and their families

            you just couldn’t let it go at that could you, you had to remove your focus from the victims/families and ply your delusions

            there’s no hell, no heaven, no gods, the bible is a man-made fiction and jesus never lived

            oh, and when people die, they DIE, they do not live

            enjoy your fairy-tales

          • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

            If prayer is a delusion to you, then why do you insult people that believe in something, by asking them to do something you regularly attack them for doing?
            You could have stopped at ” a thought.”
            But you added “Prayer” as a dig.
            “i didn’t ask for any compromise, merely a thought and a prayer for the deceased, the injured and their families.”
            A PRAYER to whom, Andy?

          • BEEF SUPREME

            It’s no use, Artie.

            Sanity has LEFT the building.

          • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

            I blame Elvis, he took it with him. :mad: :lol:

        • 2QIK4U


      • 2QIK4U

        Yes I agree. Even though I’m in the middle I do believe since he took his own life he destroyed the most precious thing given to him. Life. I do believe that whatever does happen, you forfeit all rights of your soul continuing on. There is a higher power but all the books are incomplete so you all could have been worshipping Satan from day one for all ANY OF US know. I will stand in front of a good person to protect them. I would take a bullet (again) for anyone. It’s not my decision it’s just what my reactions do.

  • Miss M

    It’s early days still–lets see how this all plays out. And remember, “they” want us ALL fighting amongst ourselves and the goal is division So, don’t give them what they want. Don’t feed the beast :neutral:

    • 2QIK4U

      Especially the dreaded HILDABEAST.

  • Jesus Christ is the truth,the life and the only way to the father.

    no you got it all wrong!
    The New World Order is here already since 1776!
    The democracy of the USA is the New World Order „Novus ordo seclorum“.
    Freemasonry is Satanism and Freemasons are Democrats!
    George Washington was a Freemason and the first President of the USA !
    Do you begin to understand now?
    As I said before the democratic system of the USA is the New World Order and it’s a satanic order too,
    the old order were the Monarchies around the world!

  • Fringe Design Lab

    This is some form of mind control. Likely being perpetuated by a foreign government or rogue faction within the us intelligence communities. If you really want to know what happened you will have to find out who all the victims are.

    There is now a definite pattern. Outside of Las Vegas is nellis Air Force Base and other secret air force installations. Outside of San Antonio are also Air Force Bases. Some people have even reported secret underground military bases in this area.

    Is the reason why the Las Vegas shooting has been hushed so well because this was an attack on members of the top secret organizations? Highly likely that they are targeting our nuclear / intelligence personnel in their free time. It is known that the Air Force is one of the US’ number one ways to deploy nuclear weapons.

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