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Photographer Captures Incredible Images of a Crow Riding on the Back of a Bald Eagle Mid-Flight (Photos)

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Photographer Phoo Chan has captured some incredible images of a crow riding on the back of a bald eagle mid-flight. Chan explains that crows are territorial birds who will attack and harass much larger birds who invade their space. In this case, the attack included a slight pause as the crow perched itself on the eagle’s back for a brief mid-air ride.

More of Chan’s wonderful wildlife and bird photography can be seen on his Flickr page.

photos via Bored Panda

 

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    • Geheimnis Schwarze Sonne

      BY THE BEARD OF HOLGE DANSKE THAT THE COOLEST THING EVERRRRRRRR!!!

      FAAAAAAAAAAAK! CAW! THE CROW RIDE UPON THE BALD EAGLE, WHO IS OBLIVIOUS! BWAHAHAHAAA!

      ok, wghat does a CROW symbolise? in the Biblical context? Whoe was fed by crows as the river? mmmkay, and what does the bald eagle symbolise?? but the USA!!! and now, the crow, rides on the back of the eagle, SURFS the eagle, chills on the eagle, and proves itself far coooler than the eagle. and, there where the dead body lies, there they will congregate, it looks to me! AS IF THE CROW OF DOOM< HAS ALIGHTED UPON THE EAGLE OF THE GREAT EAGLE! BWAHAHAHAHAAAA

      THE CROWS! CAW!!! pls Jeff send this to Beef at "[email protected]" im not allowed to use e-mail lest i get smote by bees an stuff. im only allowed to decree and reveal stuff here, its quite fun, i use BIN like my personal facebook. THE FKN CROW ON THE EAGLE!!! pls just send ol Beefo this article of yours' link , the FACT that you found this , and KNEW it to be significant, and then brought it here, your thereby are now a PARTAKER IN HEAVENLY JOY, which is when you do someting, thats beneficial to yer bros, and yourself, and makes both you and your bros happy bam, because omw JEFFFFFFERY you legend, well found! OMW ITS SO SYMBOLIC
      !

      • Geheimnis Schwarze Sonne

        BWAHAHAHAHA IN PICTURE FOUR THE CROW IS DOIN THAT KARATE KID STAND! BWAHAHAAA i go like that afore kickin someone in the nuts so hard they fly xD POOOOOOOM fractured pelvis xD

        • Geheimnis Schwarze Sonne

          1. (n.) A large black passerine bird (Corvus corax), similar to the crow, but larger. It is native of the northern parts of Europe, Asia, and America, and is noted for its sagacity.

          2. (a.) of the color of the raven; jet black; as, raven curls; raven darkness.

          3. (n.) Rapine; rapacity.

          4. (n.) Prey; plunder; food obtained by violence.

          5. (v. t.) To obtain or seize by violence.

          6. (v. t.) To devour with great eagerness.

          7. (v. i.) To prey with rapacity; to be greedy; to show rapacity.

          “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it.” It has been the custom, in many countries, to hang those who have been guilty of great crimes on a tree or on a gallows in the open air; and there to leave the body for the birds to peck at and devour if they chose. I suppose this verse means that stubborn and disobedient children, or those who are not kind and respectful to their parents, must expect to come to some sad end; and they very often do so.

          In Proverbs 30:17 it is indicated that the ravens, as well as eagles, vultures and hawks, found the eye of prey the vulnerable point, and so attacked it first. The Hebrew `orebh means “black,” and for this reason was applied to the raven, so the reference to the locks of the bridegroom in the So of Solomon becomes clear (Songs 5:11). The raven is one of the birds indicated to prey upon the ruins of Edom (Isaiah 34:11). The last reference is found in Luke 12:24: “Consider the ravens, that they sow not, neither reap; which have no store-chamber nor barn; and God feedeth them.” This could have been said of any wild bird with equal truth.

          MWHAHAHAHAAAAA

          FKN CLEAR SIGN OF DOOOOOM , for me to read , mwhahaaa, sigh im so happy, BLESS YOU JEFFERY

      • Geheimnis Schwarze Sonne

        28 Behold an horrible vision, and the appearance thereof from the east:

        29 Where the nations of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots, and the multitude of them shall be carried as the wind upon earth, that all they which hear them may fear and tremble.

        30 Also the Carmanians raging in wrath shall go forth as the wild boars of the wood, and with great power shall they come, and join battle with them, and shall waste a portion of the land of the Assyrians.

        31 And then shall the dragons have the upper hand, remembering their nature; and if they shall turn themselves, conspiring together in great power to persecute them,

        32 Then these shall be troubled bled, and keep silence through their power, and shall flee.

        33 And from the land of the Assyrians shall the enemy besiege them, and consume some of them, and in their host shall be fear and dread, and strife among their kings.

        34 Behold clouds from the east and from the north unto the south, and they are very horrible to look upon, full of wrath and storm.

        35 They shall smite one upon another, and they shall smite down a great multitude of stars upon the earth, even their own star; and blood shall be from the sword unto the belly,

        36 And dung of men unto the camel’s hough.

        37 And there shall be great fearfulness and trembling upon earth: and they that see the wrath shall be afraid, and trembling shall come upon them.

        38 And then shall there come great storms from the south, and from the north, and another part from the west.

        39 And strong winds shall arise from the east, and shall open it; and the cloud which he raised up in wrath, and the star stirred to cause fear toward the east and west wind, shall be destroyed.

        40 The great and mighty clouds shall be puffed up full of wrath, and the star, that they may make all the earth afraid, and them that dwell therein; and they shall pour out over every high and eminent place an horrible star,

        41 Fire, and hail, and flying swords, and many waters, that all fields may be full, and all rivers, with the abundance of great waters.

        42 And they shall break down the cities and walls, mountains and hills, trees of the wood, and grass of the meadows, and their corn.

        43 And they shall go stedfastly unto Babylon, and make her afraid.

        44 They shall come to her, and besiege her, the star and all wrath shall they pour out upon her: then shall the dust and smoke go up unto the heaven, and all they that be about her shall bewail her.

        45 And they that remain under her shall do service unto them that have put her in fear.

        46 And thou, Asia, that art partaker of the hope of Babylon, and art the glory of her person:

        47 Woe be unto thee, thou wretch, because thou hast made thyself like unto her; and hast decked thy daughters in whoredom, that they might please and glory in thy lovers, which have always desired to commit whoredom with thee.

        48 Thou hast followed her that is hated in all her works and inventions: therefore saith God,

        49 I will send plagues upon thee; widowhood, poverty, famine, sword, and pestilence, to waste thy houses with destruction and death.

        50 And the glory of thy Power shall be dried up as a flower, the heat shall arise that is sent over thee.

        51 Thou shalt be weakened as a poor woman with stripes, and as one chastised with wounds, so that the mighty and lovers shall not be able to receive thee.

        52 Would I with jealousy have so proceeded against thee, saith the Lord,

        53 If thou hadst not always slain my chosen, exalting the stroke of thine hands, and saying over their dead, when thou wast drunken,

        54 Set forth the beauty of thy countenance?

        55 The reward of thy whoredom shall be in thy bosom, therefore shalt thou receive recompence.

        56 Like as thou hast done unto my chosen, saith the Lord, even so shall God do unto thee, and shall deliver thee into mischief

        57 Thy children shall die of hunger, and thou shalt fall through the sword: thy cities shall be broken down, and all thine shall perish with the sword in the field.

        58 They that be in the mountains shall die of hunger, and eat their own flesh, and drink their own blood, for very hunger of bread, and thirst of water.

        59 Thou as unhappy shalt come through the sea, and receive plagues again.

        60 And in the passage they shall rush on the idle city, and shall destroy some portion of thy land, and consume part of thy glory, and shall return to Babylon that was destroyed.

        61 And thou shalt be cast down by them as stubble, and they shall be unto thee as fire;

        62 And shall consume thee, and thy cities, thy land, and thy mountains; all thy woods and thy fruitful trees shall they burn up with fire.

        63 Thy children shall they carry away captive, and, look, what thou hast, they shall spoil it, and mar the beauty of thy face.

        • Crow (hex)

          Yes, the bald eagle represents the USAaw! Caw! Caw! I love crows rooks and ravens, they’re very intelligent creatures. They’re not really fazed by anything, and I’m sure they know things we don’t – they see everything.
          Do you get Ravens in your country? They much bigger than Crows, badass they are!
          Hmmm. Secret of the Black Sun. I’m gonna miss Toucan Son of Sam- tbh, he looked like a fun guy. Btw, I think my avatar is a Raven! Love them! They’re more solitary than Crows.
          Yes, the bald eagle represents the USA, and the Crow/ Raven represents something smaller but more intelligent and in control. Why bother, using up energy to fly, have a rest and let someone else do the effort for you- so yes, something more cleverer! Does it represent nature, in this context. God sending a message, that some natural disaster is soon to happen in the US?

          • Lich king

            omw do i get crows…

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voWjMT0Uybw

            The Crow, is like my official favorite animal ever, they determine if i turn left or right or straight at 4 way intersections, crows, i have a cool saying about the “omen” of crows….

            “crows,,, a sign, something good or bad, may or may not happen”

            and then number of crows determines strenght of event, like 1 crow, meh, 5 crows all turn right, i turn right, and so on. this is a MEGA sign, for those that have the eyes to see, THIS EXACT kind of thing is what im looking for,. AND its from Jeffery who is WELSH, orginally Celtic, so like , a sign in regards to crows, from a member of my own Tribe, yet the messenger knew its significant, but not how much, OR DID HE. so yes, i take this very seriously, and im dancin an leapin, and i even had a cry.

            • Lich king

              ALSO!@!! we have a SYMBIOTIC relationship with the ravens/crows CAW! zactly like the honey badger an its bird, “vikings” for a lack of a better modern term (cause really, who nowadays knows about the “Sessair”) so i say “vikings” , have ravens, they are a particular bird, as all carrion birds only love a certain part of the carcass, at a certain stage of decomp. now crows like it FRESH, like uber fresh, and they like eyes, brains and bone marrow, and struggle it to get it on their own, so they follow their “honeybadgers” ie “The Get of Fenris” or “Tribe Benyamin” and suchlike people, and they lead them and show them treasure, and then we provide them with their favorite food, presented in a manner appealing to the crows. SO, all these future claims of “insane brutality” and such things, are bulldust, and the moaings of weeners, we are merely feeding our crows, which we love, and we want to do our best to make sure their food is fresh, and readily available, so their numbers may grow. AHmein.

            • Lich king

              Basically what im alluding to, is group of people, as detailed in Joel chapter 2, that are going to be maligned, and compared to “texas chainsaw massacre” and “devils rejects” and stuff, nothing like “a serbian movie” we have ZERO sexual filthyness, and NO RAPIN, we totally over that,. we, just want to feed our crows, and well, useless people have very valuable mico-nutrients in their blood, which must return to the earth, and they have bone marrowe, and eyes, and brains, that would do much better as crow food, given their current Spiritual State.

              they good for this, and not much else, the video below, is a very poor example of what comes, add in blood eagles, crows, fire, etc etc.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeoaU01LFys

              but i think they get they idea, anyway, let none be sayin i ever incite violence, nay, for i say OBEY THE WORD till told otherwise.

              and the Black sun, comes, then Fenris’ chains come off, then nothing can stop the feeding of the crows.

            • Ambicatus

              HEY!!! how do you define “USELESS PEOPLE”" !@!!

              You must tell them! only cobra an bros clever enough! the rest! PAH! DUMBER THAN ROCKS.

              HERE, THE WORD DETERMINES WHO IS USELESS< AND WHO IS NOT.

              Beliya`al

              Often found as a compound expression, “Sons of Beliyaʽal in the Scriptures. It is derived from two Heḇrew words meaning “not” and “be of use,” thus meaning “worthlessness.” It could have been a proper name, originally. In 2Co_6:15 it is used as a synonym for Satan.

              IE THE SONS OF BELIAL,.

              now whos that???

              EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE EARTH WHO DOES NOT KEEP THE TEN COMMANDMENTS!! HAHAHAHA!!! MUCH CROW FOOD! MUCH!~!! 96%%%

              HAHAHAHAAA

            • Captain Spaulding

              i hope yall watched all them ivan videos hey. that ivans an interesting fella

          • Crow (hex)

            Maybe, just maybe, All God’s creatures are gonna attack the US. You know, multiple Shark attacks, Killer Bees, Ravenous Bears, plagues of Locust.etc. Payback for all the
            environmental damage caused by the US – they are the world’s biggest consumers!
            In this context, the Crows/ Ravens will be the Generals, coordinating the attacks from
            from the air.
            More boringly, it could represent ISIS, but I don’t like the thought of Crows and Ravens representing those extremist nutcases. No, the animal attacks, is the idea that holds more appeal to me. Just leaving the good people alone and attacking the evil people. You see the Crows see everything and would be able to discriminate between the different types of people. Caw! Caw! Caw!

            • Crow (hex)

              My God, this is a great thread. No heathens are here yet, so no downmarking as well! Well, well, I could have sworn Geheimnis Schwartze Sonne was Toucan Son of Sam. How many more bros will there be entering the fray. This is great. How come you guys can’t use e-mail? and what does k mean?

            • Crow (hex)

              Wow! I just saw 2 Ravens, whilst out walking the dogs. The big dog barked at one of them – he’s got an incredibly deep, gruff bark, and the Raven took flight. This is all definitely an omen, that something is about to happen!

            • The Clucker

              About 3 months or so ago I was driving and came to a 3 way intersection near my house. To the right there was a church and there was a crow standing next to the curb. I turned right and spooked the crow and it flew toward the church right at a squirrel that was hanging out in the grass. In a really spontaneous seeming act, almost like it was playing, the crow swooped down at the squirrel and grabbed it with its little claw feet. It picked it up about 3 inches or so off the ground and the squirrel went berserk, the crow let go of it, and it ran like hell.

              I told my gal when I got home but I don’t think she believed me. I saw it with my own two eyeballs though. It was really cool. I remembered Guntherian talking about crows on this website in the past and wondered if it was some kind of an omen.

            • Crow (hex)

              This is great! Most of my fav people are on this thread. Just need a few more and this will be the best thread ever! :lol: :cool:

            • Captain Spaulding

              we, are only 3 here, cobra , clucker and me( all ze udder profiles is me, the Ruach let you lot know, everyone else is waaaay to stupid and blind). mwhahahahaa, crows,bros, crows. i use the numero profilo cause i get super bored super quick, and the stupids get used to me, and then no-one replys to my trap/comments, cause i can turn damn near anything into a blazer of a Torah portion, im really into it, its the pinnacle of “feck the world” THE most offensive, hardcore, rolphy, funnest, anti-world thing you can do, is go full Bible, and i been havin a ball, i lurk here on BIN cause we all looking for something, and whie we looked, we found groovyness, o and Clucker your crow omen is directly related to you, where i see you as the squirrel, and that you might get a savage trolling soon, but will be AOK and will run to safety, thats what i get from your crow, tthey go zactly like that, it tells ya a story, thats quite simple, and direct, you gonna get trolled bro, and the Fact that the Most High , gave you a heads up, is quite rad indeed! that means you are now, IN, so to say, bro Clucker, mwhahaa, this is so fun.

            • Captain Spaulding

              i can substantiate thAT, flesh-eating bacteria, a badass one, is attacking alcoholics an those who eat seafud, like the calamaris an stuff, the whole reality of existance is going to become VERY hostile to those who dont adhere to the Commandments,,, bad stuff, very, asif this realitys settings were set on “super mild” now soon incrementally turned up to “savagely severe” like, murphys law on steroids,

              Amo 5:19 as when a man flees from a lion, and a bear shall meet him; or entered his house, rested his hand on the wall, and a serpent shall bite him.

              YIKES! and, Cluckers freshley red Kings and Chronicles, and SEEN, its STILL ABOUT THE SAME DAMN THING!!! obelisks on hills! sunday baal xtians! AAARRRGHHH!!! that xtian church sunday story is the EXACT SAME RELIGION AS THE BAAL WORSHIP OF 722BC!!! same holy days! same system! same money for redemption! same prosperity doctrine! the error of bilaam!!!

              THE BIG RIDDLE!!! at the end of the Book, in the INTRODUCTION to Revelations!

              Jud 1:11 Woe to them! Because they have gone in the way of Qayin, and gave themselves to the delusion of Bilʽam for a reward, and perished in the rebellion of Qoraḥ.

              HOOHAA!!!

              DOOM to them! the xtians! the caltholics! the hated partakers of external worship! they went on the same path as cain the law of do what thou wilt be the whole of the law! they love the prosperity doctrine and the likes of benny hinn and joel osteen! they went to church on sunday! and, THE GROUND WILL OPEN UP AND SWALLOW THEM LIVING DOWN INTO HELL!!!

              OMW THAT IS MOST HEAVY METAL THING EVERRRRRRRRRRR.

              O YES< if YOU have Seen RAVENS, and they CALL you and go CAW!!! LOOK! CAW!!~! then we have found you, and you are now under illlllll protection, cause you have been invited to a viking party. mehehehee, YE ARE WITNESSES and CHOSEN ones, for i have made many promises here, and Clucker knows i aims to deliver, now, the thing is, im limited right now, by the Laws of nature. when that changes, then we have fun, so smile, if crows be gaurding you and showing you, you lot be friends with the reaper, just like me :) wellcome to the party, im a "scout" of sorts if you will, a crow allocater or summin, and MWAHAHAAAA now we just need stupid Jeffery to tell us if hes been seein crows, cause i want him to, he's fkn cool, go thru his articles and get a "general vibe" of what kinda stuff he likes, i smells a heart of gold family man.

    • Ambicatus

      :|

      There is a very simple reason i have NUMEROUS profiles, that reaslly, who cant see its me? the “i” in smallcase, the badly typed comments, the variation tween bliss and toiletseat chewing rage, the REASON i do it, is so i can POST TONS OF COMMENTS WHEN NEED BE

      • Ambicatus

        https://chatwithgod.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/finger_moon255b1255d.jpg

        i feel very sad, i am no deceiver, but a finger that points, a crusty ragged signpost, POINTING at something, no more no less, what have i ever claimed to be? a prophet? nay, everything is in the Book and i know where.

        and my devotion to the Word has payed off, and i share what i have recieved, here, i spam it, freely, nothing more than interesting stuff for people to read. yet i can feel the animosity, i can feel the jealously, but of what prey tell? meh, it matters not, i have been utterly gracious on this thing, expect it not, in the Ragnarok. my concern is with MY TRIBE. MY TRIBE ALONE. the CELTS. The Scottish, the Irish, and the Norwegian,

        Like Clucker, and cobra and the archbishop of glastonbury and the culdees, MY TRIBE.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT2ZXmqRItM

        not menneseh, nor asher, nor judah the lame, nor rueben the fornicator nor issacar COUGH SITREP PAVEL T. COUGH, nor weak Dan. and i have been the PICTURE of courtesy. and yet still the gossiping an alluding of that women do, is to be found among men. PAH.

        much effort, much $ i could have spend on other things as BIN is VERY data hungry.

        and i hear the complaining and the moaning, because of HURT FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS< cause i wont email NOBODY. BOOHOO.

        im fkn pissed off. and i believe my work is done, go read all those books i posted, it will help. adious.

        • Crow (hex)

          Ah Richard, I’ll really miss you if you LEAVE BIN! The fun factor will go down 1000s.
          If you are leaving, then I wish you good fortune in your future quests. I’m sure we’ll meet in person or spirit form one day. I hope you change your mind and come back after having a break.
          You’ll always be in my heart, always. Adious bro’

          Cobra ‘ the Raven King’ and dog lover. P.S in my next form, all my dogs will be with me, and will be able to take on human or dog form.

        • Crow (hex)

          MACHINE HEAD: GREAT SONG, GREAT GUITAR, GREAT DRUMMING!

          This song is high energy, and makes you want to do something equally with a high intensity.

          Must listen to more from this band.

          • Ambicatus

            ONly their first Album “Burn my eyes” is very rad, the rest, meh.

            Recommended listening for Set Aparts be :

            Amon Amarth
            Ensiferum
            Exmortus
            Blind Guardian
            Dragonforce
            Dragonland
            Sabaton
            Volbeat

            mhahahaa! nice new profile pic!”

      • Crow (hex)

        You mentioned in the Putin prophesy post- I’ve given you a reply by the way- your list of characters. In it you mention Richard but you also said me. Hmmm. Who is the me fella you mentioned or was it just a typo! You also didn’t mention Toucan Son of Sam. I like him and Capn Spaldin, so I’m going to treat all 3 of you as different people. I think you should always keep these 3 dudes. Now who is this ‘ me’ character?
        The only other South Afrikan dude that I’m aware of is ‘Bob’ and I haven’t seen him for a while. It is my good fortune then that I keep all the threads that I posted; and I do notice expressions, style, words etc that people use, so I can spot multiple accounts. So you’ve given me a puzzle now to go diggin’ , although it might have just been a typo mistake, that you made.

        • Captain Spaulding

          BACK! found out i was just being a wuss! xD sheesh, im a silly sometimes, bro cobra, not typo’s and the riddle continues!

        • Captain Spaulding

          BWAHAHA you must show that picture to sitrep hes Russian, im convinced, i even think i know who he is, ole Pavel the strong of one arm one leg pushups, you wanna see a Rus have a stroke? show them that pic, they got prophecys aboot that funny stuff, NO SAVIOR NO MESSIAH!@ only the biggest funts of history here to lay down some Bible. hoohaa, seriously cobra, dont say anything that you speak to the guy, or nuthing, just show a russian that pic an see how he goes pale. omw the trolling that is coming is HARD

        • Ambicatus

          O COBRA!! in my exitement i forgot to explain what i yam an what i do!!! duuurh! got caught up in the data! im an Information Scientist, and i convert MASSES of data into usable Information, Input Process Output, “bzzzzzz iam Bible robot” sed like that nerd guy in “grandmas boy” im waiting for our Boss, the Man in Daniel 12:1, MikaEl, god of war , commander of Heavens armies, disputer of Mosheh’s body, that one,. angel o death. now, i COLLECT information, so when He pulls in, i cans just give Him a PHAT Book of Names, i has been given charts, and it makes it easier,BEHOLD THE CHART! you Cobra are a BLUE.

          https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9OLkipOzWYqWWsxV3RnR3FPUnM/view?usp=sharing

          i died of alcohol poisoning in 2007, went to sheol, had an interesting time in the hell of selfishness, ow, came back with misson, did misson, collect data, present, laugh, dance METAL!!!

          im a gharbinger of doooom , doooomy doom doom,. cept, i dint wig out cause i killed my ego with THOUSANDS of lsds in the 90s. so yeeeehaa! um, Ragnarok anyone?

          • Crow (hex)

            Glad your back. Think I would have quit myself if you had of left, most of the fun would have left with you.
            You didn’t mention Toucan Son of Sam, in your list of characters, but he talks exaktly like yu BWAHAHA. Is he your bro?
            I like puzzles, I don’t want any more clues except one. Have you been on the same thread as me?

            • Crow (hex)

              Looking at the pic of Boris and Ivan, you 2 could do some immense damage to all the heathens during this Ragnarok! They should be scared, just hope it all happens with the two of you in peak fighting form! :smile:

            • Ambicatus

              YES!! all i do is use different gmail addresses, and i use the same password for all lest i forget them, and o mother glory we been having nice storms !@!! this is tooo much fun! and i agree, it is a very good message reporitory, cause look, im convinced them heathens are retarded , and that damein thing? thats full on demonic attacvk, where the parasite has become one with the host and then they wig out in interesting ways! and that KOS!@ hes a hive o demons tyhat one, imagine if we can rescue that one an clean him up! innfact its inevitable!

              over the years i have grown bored of arguing , but i do love helping when someone has questions about Bible then ill drop anything cause nothing is radder than Bible. im quite obsessed.

              we are having MAJOR storms here,,, its quite fun. :D but i will check here, its a very apt and groovy article. and jeff dont get alerts if people be commenting here, but great fun all round.

          • Crow (hex)

            What sort of person am I ? Probably tactical planner using underhand tactics in orderto achieve victory. Very q quick instincts and awareness of a situation. Leading others into false sense of superiority, whilst gathering the information needed beforeattacking them with full force ie being patient, and letting them attack me at first. Working out their weaknesses. On BIN I like to use a persons own words to undermine their argument. I’ll also subtlety bait them in order to gain a response. I always have the last word and sometimes plant seeds in their heads. For example, I said to Red- PeoplePower and Redeemer are the same- that he always forces his comments into the top 3. This will have a psychological effect on him. I have all the data in which to prove my point. If he keeps doing it I’ll use that data in my attack .I also said he’s always using emoticons, whilst using lots myself. I’ve got under his skin and he is now putty in my hands. In his last comment he seemed to have lost his cool. I pointed this out to him whilst using lots of laughing emoticons.My last sentence was that I look forward to seeing his future comments in the top 3 and then a further lot of laughing emoticons. He never replied.

            Do you think Ivan the terrible would approve?

            • Ambicatus

              never mind approve, its people like YOU an Beef et al, who make me go:

              “notice me senpai”

              Boris is HILARIOUS, when we met, he had the exact same story as me, was a terrible alcoholic, and had terrible time dealing with our very existance, who we is, what we is all that, and we only met after Father fixed us up with a wee visit to sheol, died of booze, woke up and here we are, the FIRST thing he said to me when we met was “waar de fok is ons hoetjies” which directly translated is “where the feck our our hats?” cause like he also was waiting for like , an welcome commitee of sort, turns out, the feckin vatican has our hats. we need our hats bro, you dont understand. ons soek one fokkin hoetjies en daar was is fokkin niemand anders wakker, dis n kakspul, ANYWAY Boris an i are not allowed to hang out, he is 300 km due east of me, in a place even hotter than here, working his butt off in IT xD xD XD , which is kinda karmic justice why i got a free ride, and perma holiday, cause last time we were here he killed me. which we are both over, and the contract re-made, i wig out and kill my own children he kills me. bam sorted. so he’s lurking, im lurking, i get attacked by hornets if i try email people, im not here to convince nobody of nuthin, an i just say what i believe, cause im a heretic, and i tell em what i seen as best as i can, and well it just so happens my story is funny and only for the Set APart, like ye who read here. MWhahaaa and jeffery mwhahaha, and, im really really happy, i have total piece of mind, the best bros ever, in all kinds of places, nationality iiiiirellevant, preference aboviously to the Scots, Irish an Norwegian, and we are all just servants in the most mega service of the Most High, cause i got my own theories, and i met a bro whos CONVINCED he’s Ghengis Khan, and well i cant really dispute it, he’s quite scary! and he loves Bible! and happens, like all of us, for some reason, to believe the EXACT SAME STUFF, funnyly enough.

              anyway! i lovve our facebook! they call it BIN! haha! not stung once! secrets blurted in the land of flat earth where NO ONE will take serious The TERRRRIIIIBLE PLOTTING and MEETING AND GREETING OF KINGS!!!

              o cobra, thou art a king of the past, who i know not yet, but so is Clucker an Beef (Beef is very much the Kurgan i kid you not , woe , woe unto those who gave that bro uphill omw) and so are allll of the 144000 unbullpoopable 10 Comm keeping kiiiings, oooweee theres plenty.

              im looking fer:

              List of kings

              Known kings of the Vandals:[citation needed]

              Wisimar (d.335)
              Godigisel (359–406)
              Gunderic (407–428)
              Genseric (428–477)
              Huneric (477–484)
              Gunthamund (484–496)
              Thrasamund (496–523)
              Hilderic (523–530)
              Gelimer (530–534)

              thats just the Vandals, nevermind the Ostrogoths and all them ded kings who died foightin rome, WELCOME TO VALHALLA. we are not goign to Valhalla, WE ARE IN VALHALLA!!! WAAAAR!!! ICH LIEBE KRIEGE! yaay!

            • Crow (hex)

              Sometimes I let a person off the hook. It all depends on their response.
              On one thread Medina ( Damien ) attacked me viciously accusing me and my ‘ king’ Jesus of being babykillers and she threatened to nail me upside down to a cross and told me to kill myself. Remember the thread where I gave you the no 7777. Anyway it was a dead thread at the time, and she kept attacking me. However I turned it round at the end accusingher of the very things she supposedly hates. I deliberately withheld information and tried to be ambiguous as possible, whilst patiently building my case to use in my attack. Once I attacked she stopped responding.

              I also had amajor scientific debate with Lifels. Near the end I destroyed his arguments. Beef Supreme said it was the best pitch and shut out that he had ever seen on BINS. Said he didn’t know why I was on Bin but was glad that I was. He also said if I knew as much about theology as I did about physics and cosmology, then he was looking forward to me mangling my opponents with a relish.

              Debate with Lifels /space/2015/11/flat-earth-proof-military-pilot-reveals-sun-and-moon-are-not-what-we-think-2494710.html

              Debate with Damien (Medina) /terrorism/2015/12/final-warning-obama-and-pope-francis-will-bring-biblical-end-times-full-documentary-2456664.html

              Read them if you like!

            • Crow (hex)

              I always imagined myself to King Leonardo in that film ’300′ in a last ditch stand against an evil persian army of one million. It’s a true story and the
              Greeks won in the end after further battles. I had areally strong sense of ‘deja- vu’ about the whole thing. It was eerie.

              I have very strong vivid dreams where I’m different people in foreign countries, so I definitely believe in reincarnation of the soul.

            • Crow (hex)

              Hi Richard I hope you read this. Since we’re the only two people on this thread. We could use it for secret planning ha ha!
              We could have oodles of fun. We could use it like email.

              For instance, I would like to have multiple accounts like yourself. Do I need to have different email addresses to do this? Or just use different passwords?

              KOS thread is funny. I said you were leaving and he said good riddance and that you were working for Obama doing evil work and that you left because you lost and he was gaining popularity. He thinks I’m on his side now lol. He even got an upvote of 2. But I’m sure he is called Armed Gentleman as well. Heres the link. /alternative/2016/01/trumpmelania-not-from-earth-spread-this-news-theyre-2-witnesses-of-the-bible-who-defeat-antichrist-obama-video-3273436.html

            • Ambicatus

              OMW i hereby diagnose geir with extreme possession, and feel very sorry for him, he needs rescue, hes tre nuts.

              oja we can use the gematria to cheat an find out which ancient king, all you do is literally put in “which ancient king was ……..” an full name, and chekkid out, ya just go down the list and let the Inner Voice tell you which is tripe or gold, cause gematria is VERY sarcastic.

              i put mine in, and its, well, interesting.

              actually its horrible, and funny, that gematria is very interesting.

              AHA! and i see you practise the same art as im,

              TO WIN WITHOUT FIGHTING!

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WvfZuuaUkE

            • LifeIs

              Ah, no, Cobra, I lost interest in trying to point you in the right direction. Being argumentative is not the same as making a sound argument.

              You could read what the true scientists of the age have written. In their words. And you could try to comprehend them.

              Beef Supreme does not have a scientific mind. I asked him to compare the account of Jesus’ arrest, in the gospel of John, to the other accounts. And to observe that they are different.

              He could not comprehend that one simple fact. They are different.

            • Crow (hex)

              Ah! Lifels has popped up on the thread. Actually, I do like you Lifels , you’re a nice guy. Least you have knowledge and understanding of Science, unlike the Bible merikans. I’ve read a lot of your posts, and you’re very clever and brave in stating what you believe and leading with comments, unlike others who are only able to react to what others say.

              Beefy did say it was the best debate on BINs regardless of who won. Let’s call it a draw then. I was new to debating and said some things I shouldn’t have said. But, now I’m leaving you probably know more about Science and the cosmos than anyone else on BIN.

              Whether, anybody will listen to what you say is a different matter, but at least your stuff is original.

              Cobra R.I.P

    • Crow (hex)

      You answered yes, but to what? That Toucan is you bro or that you’ve been on the same thread as me.?

      I’m now officially one of Geirs messingers of the apocalypse /self-sufficiency/2016/01/final-warning-%100-proof-mark-of-the-beast-666666666-666-2016-barack-hussein-obama-occult-gematria-and-numerology-2499156.html I was just fun trolling him, but that guy is wordblind, and couldn’t see I was joking. I let him out of his cage and was up voting all his posts, whilst calling him The Messiah and apparently the guy was going mental all over BIN. Really funny day, oh what laughs i had.

      Notice you never post on a Saturday. Is that because of the Sabbath? What are you allowed to do on the sabbath?

      In contact with Beefy via email. He’s gonna help with the scripture.

      Gonna set up a new character soon. Might make it a female, who tells cobra off for bullying and the like. Oh what fun!
      So you know will be like the twilight zone welcome. I’ll do it on a thread that you’re on. Cobra needs to rest at some point. I might introduce another animal character as well, maybe a bird or shark. 3 is enough for me!

      Cobra:

      Was Pantheistic Anarcho- Warrior
      Then Pantheistic Anarcho-Pacifist
      Now Pantheistic/Scriptural Anarcho-Pacifistic Warrior.
      Later Scriptural Anarcho-Warrior.

      • Crow (hex)

        With this Sun Tzu general shouldn’t I put in ‘ which ancient general was Sun Tzu’ Have to get the book now to see his ideas, and get more insight. Thanx Richard.

      • Ambicatus

        It is Lawfull to do good on Sabbath! so like sometimes i post, but i mostly just rest, to fufill the Sabbath requirments, all ya gotta do is rest, and no buying stuff from friday sunset to saturday sunset, thats it. and like, if there are no good deeds to be done, ie, if there is no one to help,. rest. thats it. tre easy and the world HAAAATES you if you hit it, also , keeping Sabbath properly nullifys Murphys Law, i have infinite free weed, i have free well everything, aint worked in yonks, when i run outta money i sell a sword, but aint needed to , keeps appearing! good grief! and aha
        ! BRILLIANT description!

        “Later Scriptural Anarcho-Warrior.”
        or, “Latter Day Scriptural Warrrior”

        hmmm. i put that in Gemtria, Sabbath is essential hey, Ezekiel 20:12

        http://www.gematrix.org/?word=Latter+Day+Scriptural+Warrrior

        very very interesting, im still figgerin that thing.

        and yaay! Beef Supreme is on the CUTTING edge!! pls ask him to send you mah essay i wrote ” The Bible, fact or Fallacy” its quite rad, it is a usefull tool for annhilating people who question Bibles legitamacy, mwhahaha, Sabbath is a delight, and a very rad way to tell the world and its people to feck off.

        • Crow (hex)

          With that Gematria, what pops out is ” we’ve been looking for you”

    • Crow (hex)

      Great song by the way. Might play when I’m in hefty debates with people, to give me inspiration.

      Yes, think i was in that 300 battle. You see I’ve always led a sort of Spartan lifestyle, I’m not a materialistic sort of person, but I’ve always had the warrior inside me! I’ve always been interested in the Greek History during that period, and read a lot of books about them and the Persians.

    • Crow (hex)

      Beefy SOUTH Texas

      Richard SOUTH Afrika

      Clucker SOUTH Dakota

      Cobra SOUTH Coast England.

      Coincidence?

      • Ambicatus

        NO such thing, we are all from miklagaard, in some form or another, “southern home” :D o this rocks so hard, mwhahahaaa, the Spartans are in the Book of Maccabees, and confer with them Maccabees, an find they are all sons of Abraham, pretty cool huh. Spartans practise pankration, which is a very badass hand to hand combat style, o the synchronicity.

    • Crow (hex)

      Richard. Regarding Geir. Now that I’m a messenger of the apocolypse, I will be using that trust he has in me, to implement several plans of action. The first one to try and get him to comment bomb the flat earth thread ended in failure. Next I want him to stop calling Bill Lyle and Geeper homos and Obama agents. I haven’t formulated the other plans yet, as I’m still assessing his mindset. The guy suffers from complete word blindness, he has a completely fixed mindset, and he’s mind is totally focused. Of course I’ll have to use lots of flattery, and keep probing and probing trying to find a weak link. I might have to be a little deceptive, and may have to keep changing tactics. It could end in failure, but I’m going to try my hardest to make sure I succeed Obviously all he’ll want to know is how I’m spreading the news, so I’m going to have to make things up to show that I’m doing this.

      Maybe you could give some input regarding suggestions and ideas.

      • Ambicatus

        AHA! im DYING to know what happened to him in tibet! thats were he picked up a PHAT demon/s and then the demonic influence took over, you must probe him on what monks, which temple, as much detail as possible, cause methinks there be a living naga there that they hiding away…

        • Crow (hex)

          That’s good. I can just say that I need the info so I can do a good bio for him. It hopefully, will get him talking about something more positive for a change.

          • Ambicatus

            :D i even see his mood has lifted! :D i also have hope for that crackhead, its the one that pretend to be super normal that are the ones who are like smoke after a fire, Geir, is persistent, and very interesting

    • Crow (hex)

      Richard. Reading through you comments again about traps and people responding to your comments.

      Remember that thread the other day, when I said what I believed in. I got 42 responses. I achieved this by simply saying that the rest of the Bible including Revelation was background noise. Here is another statement that I will make

      If God is omnipotent, then he can create anything he wants, so therefore he could create something so heavy that he is unable to lift it, thus showing he is not omnipotent ie a paradox.
      I will then say that if anyone can solve this :mrgreen: paradox, then there will earn my total respect. I definitely would expect a response from Scanner or Beef Supreme if they are on the thread, and others will join in as well, because once you group a few people together, others want to join.

      • Jeffery Pritchett

        ICU

        you guys keep commenting like this and I’m bound to hit a thousand clicks at some point. howls

        • Crow (hex)

          Love your thread Jeffrey. This thread is going to break all the records on BIN by the time we’re finished. Or until we’re rumbled!
          Question. What do you think about the birds? And do you mind what we’re doing here? We will stop if you want us to!

          • Jeffery Pritchett

            Its okay doesn’t bother me any. I love the crow because I am a coyote.

            I just interviewed a shaman from Peru on my radio show check it out sometime if you desire.

            http://churchofmabusradio.com/church-of-mabus/don-oscar-miro-quesada-healing-light-apprenticeship-peruvian-shamanism/

            • Crow (hex)

              Thanx, I will. Btw, I didn’t downvote you, just so you know.

              To the person that did, I’m glad you’re reading these comments, and it will give you great insight, into the way I think. I might retire cobra at some point, for he has become a little too confrontational, I have come onto this site all guns blazing! I’m new to all this commentating stuff, so I’ve been prone to making mistakes. But if you don’t want me to do this then let me know.
              This is our little secret thread, and I’ll be explaining many things on this thread. But if you spill the beans, and reveal stuff, then it’s all going to come to an end. I’ll just change characters and cobra will be gone forever.So I hope you don’t!

            • Jeffery Pritchett

              down vote up vote who cares

              im sure when im dead in the afterlife

              ill be wondering about my down votes up votes.. lmao not

            • Crow (hex)

              Jeffrey. Where do you live, and where are you from?

          • Crow (hex)

            Jeffrey are you a priest of some sort?

            • Ambicatus

              yes, he has quite a following, his entire following will be annexed by Ragnarok Death Church, of which, you are both bishops, Clucker too, Beef has his OWN divisions an stuff, cause like, we ranked on age an stuff, and i gotta yield to his wisdom of grey, cause has been qualified by years of scrutiny, YEARS, i been readin the Beef for like 5 years, and well, my church is at his disposal, we grouped by Tribe an purpose, you lot, and Beef is ALL BENYAMIN mwhahaha, and stuff, Jeff is also Benyamin, BUT JEFFERY is an AGNOSTIC PRIEST, and has acolytes, and through Jeffery his flock will see Light, AHmein, whether he feckin likes it or not.

              please note the 77 in the URL Riddle Master, 77 days in jail, 77 the logo of me church,

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHPw77p11G4

              easy to find translations of a band which sings of the very essence of me. for i am a predator, at the bidding of the servants of the Master, cept we have our own Orders, dont really listen to ANYBODY, but we do yield to the Word, and are controllable, if you use Bible to control us. Sterkte!

      • Crow (hex)

        I use loaded comments like the above all the time, and mostly it works. This makes sure I don’t get bored with the thread, because I’m talking to people, and not being ignored.

        With regards to traps, you need to know what sort of trap you’re going to use and who your target is. You need to know how the target thinks and what your objectives are in setting the trap. Once the trap is set, you have to make sure the person is going to reply. So it is best to set the trap early in the thread so that the person has not left it for good. I’ve wasted loads of comments by leaving it too late.Sometimes the trap is too good and the person will not reply.

        Richard, this is how my mind works, and it stops me from getting bored. Of course, you can just talk to friends as well!

        A lot of the time though I don’t have any plans and I just react instinctively, and I always try to make one serious comment regarding the thread I’m on, or I just want to input some information of some kind that ive read somewhere. I’m not always scheming and planning, and I try to make lots of jokes too! Although I tend to be downvoted on the jokes, as the Americans lack a sense of humour! but jokes can lead to friends grouping as well. Bill lyle and the clucker always come in on the jokes.

        Goodnight Richard.

      • Ambicatus

        AHA, to lift it, He would need something just as big to stand on, to push against, for if a Giant pushes against a rock in empty space, only He would move, so He would need an equal , opposite force to push against so He could lift it, therefore, He cannot be limited by Himself, but can only be limited by what He can push against!

        haha!

        • Crow (hex)

          Much better answer than Mayhems, with added colour, but you’ve always had my total respect anyway, so I can’t give you something that I’ve already given.

    • Crow (hex)

      Question to Richard or Toucan.

      Is it ok in respect of the Law to be deceptive when the cause is for the good? I’m thinking in relation to Geir here!

      • Ambicatus

        YES. Its is the differentiattions between a devilish lie, and a Heavenly Truth, for a devilish lie, is done for the benefit of the LIAR, but heavenly truths are when one LIES to benefit ANOTHER, so, technically, if you have to lie, for the benefit of his spritual development, then it is prudent to do such. so in your case i cannot find fault, for ye do it for his salvation. so you can tell him anything you want so long as he heads towards our Creator.

    • Crow (hex)

      Richard. Taking a couple of weeks off the main bin site. But I will still comment on this thread. Won’t be having any more
      characters, after talking to beef about it- kill joy lol. Just going to add a bit to my name and change avatar.

      Beef says he doesn’t have anything of yours apart from your email address. So the only way for me to get hold of this essay is for you to forward it to beef, and then he can forward it to me- simples!

      Used the Art of War on Williams on the Putin thread. I’m never affected by insults- like water off a ducks back, but I pretend to be, as part of my game plan. Although, of course I’m affected if friends do it, for it would be probably true.

      Here’s the thread, if you can be bothered. /prophecy/2016/01/yes-putin-theyre-going-to-realize-what-theyve-done-2476394.html

      Tell us if anything exciting happens on the bins whilst I’m away.

      • Ambicatus

        EXCELLENT! ja it does get to be a bit much, and like, i cant forwards it, but dinnae worry, much time for guffawing later, yuo have been found, now we just wait for the gathering of the bros, it is foretold.

        and so far, NOTHIng, i suspect the sightings of me black sun to go up, i expect more an more disasters, cause we aint even by the “men fainting from fear, of expectataion of that which is to come” so we like totally Psalm 27 ing, which is “WAIT” , we read we learn, meet an greet, and so on, not much to do, but wait on our Heavenly Father, and He will sort us out. im spectin new teeth, literally and metaphorically, and That Clucker, he does make one smile, his humor is very rad, and Orthodox. well, for us

        • Crow (hex)

          ‘ dinnae worry’ that’s Scottish!

        • Crow (hex)

          Yeah, the Clucker! Great bloke, very genuine. Sound as a pound!

      • Ambicatus

        AHA!!! ********************FOUND IT!!! DURRH i send ole unca Beef the LINK to mah DRIVE

        HERE ! HAHA! FOR THY PERUSAL!

        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9OLkipOzWYqY3dSa3RiUUFoZVE/view?usp=sharing

        Jeffery you must also read my essay. MWHAHAHAAA

    • Crow (hex)

      The new me hahaha! I will go back to the crow avatar though, because I like it. Btw warrior soul is a band, metallish, great singer, will link some of their music if you like.
      One of their songs is Drugs, God and the New Republic. Decided will link, it’s up to you if you want to listen, although I listen to all yours! Not quite as heavy as yours, but great band , and fantastic singer.

    • Crow (hex)

      Checked through threads :

      No Ivan. No people using small case I. Only characters

      Geheimnis Swartz Sonne X

      Toucan Son of Sam = Sam

      Captain Spalding X

      Guntherian = Gunther

      Richard = Richard.

      So Sam, Gunther or Richard.!

      Richard sounds too square!

      So Sam or Gunther.

      Out of two Gunther sounds more Viking

      So I name you Gunther Lol.

      • Ambicatus

        BWHAHAHA! well done! that is my real name! pls google at your leisure “gunther jurgens kotze”

        • Ambicatus

          BWAAAAAAHAHAHAAA googlin that will obviously lead you to my VERY public application of THE ART OF WAR! where i go let some skraeling beat me up in front of the WHOLE country at some white collar event, THOUSANDS in attendance, and now all the chumps here think i foight real poopy, a single skraeling can beat me up mommy!@!! HAHAHAHAAA i STARVED myself down to 78 kgs for that xD MWHAHAAAA THEY THINK WHAT i WANT THEM TO THINK! haha! dude i am like probably the second most hated person is south africa? i trolled them so hard, that to this day they dont even wanna admit i EXIST, and all they remember is that one time that skraeling beat me up! so they cans be brave an trys me! MWHAHAHA O THE COMEDY! o the traps i have been spinning for DECADES!!!!

          WELCOME! BROTHER AND WITNESS!!!

          To!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTUSkI-v2LU

      • Ambicatus

        Proverbs 25:2, and i name YOU “RIddle Master”

        i dont even have a proper riddle for you now, i have to wait for Father to give me one good enough,

    • Ambicatus

      HAIL JEFFERY BEST FKN ARTICLE ON THE BIN!

      YOU PAL HAVE IMPRESSED THE BOERS, AND WE HAVE TREATS FOR YOU LATER

    • Crow (hex)

      You got a pet lion? Rad. Why Shakira? Lol.

      • Ambicatus

        what? i dont have a pet lion! and shakira? i hate shakira! xD

        • Crow (hex)

          Yeah, someone on web said you did, I didn’t think so tbh, you would have told me. Best not to read stuff on web, truth mixed with lies a lot of the time.

          • Ambicatus

            i believe, that one does not bother an animal, unless you can make its life better, that story MAY come from our friend Lood, who bought a tiger, and tried to sell it to us, and we were keen, till we found out about the micro nutrients an stuff it needs, and applied the Rule, “can we make tigers life x100 better?” and well, no, we cant,. LATER yes, when we can feed people to tiger, but now, we cant do that, so no tiger, sigh, but we were like THIS close to havin a tiger, but they dont even come from here, lions are hilarious, and lazy and rad, its fkn silly down here

            • Crow (hex)

              That Lion looks chilled! Is that you with your finger up it’s derriere? Lol XD

    • Crow (hex)

      I think the mistake you made in that fight was being too agressive from the word go. I mean you were well on top, but you lost your focus, and expended too much energy. You tried to end the fight too quickly, and he got lucky and connected. By trying to dominate like that, you didn’t give yourself time to think. Thinking is critical in winning fights. I mean you hit him a lot but you didn’t connect with a big punch. You lost some energy, and he was quite fortunate with that first punch, it wasn’t by sheer skill that he landed it, but once he did you were there for the taking.

      If you ever watched Sparticus, the episode with that huge beast, that took on the two of them. Jeez that was a great battle. Sparticus turned that around by using his brain. It wasn’t brawn that won it for him it was brain power. You must have seen it!

      When I used to fight in the bad old days, I always beat my opponent- sometimes they were much bigger, by using my brain. Size them up, lead them into a false sense that it is going to be easy for them. People become complacent when that happens, and lose their focus. When I struck I did so with devastating speed and combinations rather than power. Sometimes I would fight dirty if I had to. I remember when I was very young, this guy, who was several years older, was bullying me. Behind him was a small garden wall. I bided my time, he was talking a lot, and wasn’t prepared for my attack. I pushed him as hard as I could, and he fell backwards over the wall, and was prone on the ground. Then I jump on him, hitting him with as many punches as I could. It turns out the guy was claustrophobic, and he was a complete wuss. It was a very easy victory!

      BRAWN + BRAIN +SPEED = MOSTLY VICTORY Cobra Art of War.

      • Ambicatus

        i went to lose hey, not to win btw, o and have i seen spartacus, sheesh, i summarized the entire first season,

        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9OLkipOzWYqN2hUY3F2bW4yams/view?usp=sharing

        • Crow (hex)

          Yeah, you did say that lol. So the above analysis is based on how you deliberately lost.lol. was the other guy in on it?

          • Ambicatus

            xD no, i used extreme racism to get him aaaangry, the crowd ws hating me, i presented myself as a right-wing racist, even tho im like, thats probably the nicest way to portray me, im an uber celtic zealot death lord troll master, they put me up aginst vusi matlala who is like a boxing instructor of like 15 years xD hadda hit me 9 times for ko, look close i presnt chin an dro[p arms had NO CHOICE! hahaha, while i was there there was this loud golden PING! and a Voice “you will lose this one” and then my arms stopped working, it was only in HINDSIGHT that i saw what was happening, i ws CONVINCED i was gonna win easy, as i saw it as sweetass training, its hard to find someone who will just hit you as hard as they can, without police an stuff, and i got phat suspended sentences so i gotta be caaaarefull, i dont plan NONE of it, its just, now, 6 years later, mwhahahaha and 6 years of systema later,

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PKfW2R6x_E

            my religion, systema, much clever

            • Crow (hex)

              That video you posted, I’m not able to watch for some reason. They’re some next to it though which might be worth looking at.

            • Crow (hex)

              Yeah, I think the hardest I’ve ever been hit was by a police boot in the head. Lol. At the time I did think my death was imminent!

        • Crow (hex)

          Great series that. Sad the guy who played Sparticus at first died- lifes not fair sometimes!

          • Crow (hex)

            Australian actor. Had tumours on his spine, very brave. Really felt for his family. I think he would have become a top star! I didn’t think his replacement was half as good imo.

    • Crow (hex)

      One time this Chinese guy, did a roundhouse karate kick which I wasn’t expecting and he busted my nose pretty bad, everything went black for a second. He continued to attack , and I was just trying to block everything. I was on the defensive the whole time. But I managed somehow to wrestle him to the ground, I completely negated his attack and it was PAYBACK TIME!

      Cobra Art of War

      PS Anyone reading this. This was in my past. I was never the aggressor ( well mostly not ! Lol ) and I’m not encouraging anyone to follow my advice.

      Cobra peace not war whenever possible!

    • Crow (hex)

      COBRA + RICHARD = GUARANTEED VICTORY Art of War.

      • Ambicatus

        well, it is written hey, here have our Orders, for after the disasters und when we been gathered,

        http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/guerradioses/guerradioses02a.htm

        world CONQUEST

        • Crow (hex)

          So that’s the battle plan? So this is where all the names that you use in your posts are!

          So this Kittem of Asshur is satan, and the obelisk that you destroyed is his phallic symbol?

          Where is all this stuff written?

    • Crow (hex)

      That’s interesting, BIN just removed one of my comments regarding effective forms of attack. My apologies for posting it , for I don’t want to be teaching people these methods. Well done BIN for spotting it, I made a mistake!

    • Crow (hex)

      Richard. Did you ever read my comments regarding Glastonbury?

    • Crow (hex)

      Richard is this right?

      God is everything and omnipresent.

      The two most important Laws are to love God with your, heart, soul and mind and to love your neighbour as you would love yourself.

      Humans are a mixture of good and bad.

      So to fully obey these two laws then we must love bad. Or does it mean that it is our duty to try and change people from bad to good, or does it mean that we just have to forgive the badness in people?

      Btw, I’ll try and read your essay tomorrow sometime. How does Geir seem more happy? Is he less abusive or is he saying that he is gaining more followers?

      BIN really is like a drug, I’m feeling more relaxed by the day!

      Yeah, I stuck the Glastonbury comment next to one of yours. Nevermind. But there is definitely an atmosphere there, course its on a ley line, and it has that tor on the hill. It has a very ancient feeling to it! Went to the music festival there in 1990 and 1998- too commercial now, too many normals! Always rains and the fields are like rivers in places.Great fun!

      • Crow (hex)

        I suppose what I’m saying with regards to loving bad is to understand that doing bad is okay, when it is for the greater good. Like God does bad for the greater good.

        • Ambicatus

          aha! but one must find out what Father hates, he hates BELIAL, or USELESSNESS, so, there is a time for “evil” i think you put it perfectly. we love the sinner hate the sin, and we have a code of conduct, which you are following PERFECTLY already!!

          Jud 1:20 But you, beloved ones, building yourselves up on your most set-apart belief, praying in the Set-apart Spirit,
          Jud 1:21 keep yourselves in the love of Elohim, looking for the compassion of our Master יהושע Messiah unto everlasting life.
          ***************************************
          Jud 1:22 And show compassion toward some who are doubting,
          Jud 1:23 but others save with fear, snatching them out of the fire, hating, even the garment defiled by the flesh.1 Footnote: 1See Gal. 5:19-21, Rom. 8:5-10.
          **********************************************

          Your Statement is Scripturally sound.

      • Ambicatus

        “God is everything and omnipresent. ” i would rather say:

        ““Who and What is The Supreme Spirit?” Say unto him, “Conceive it as a Being even above
        your greatest god. If it helps in your understanding, see The Supreme Spirit as a God reflecting His image as yourself. It is He who fills Heaven and Earth with His might, and His powers are displayed in the elemental forces. He is now as in the beginning and will be no different after the end. He formed men by building an earthly structure around a heavenly seed and into this he infused the vapours of life. He maintains the order of the Heavens and stabilises the land in the waters. His breath is the breath of life and He causes water to fall and greenery to live”. Say to the barbarian, “Look about you and see God reflected as in a mirror. No mortal man has ever looked upon Him directly, but His reflection may be seen with immunity”.

        and , we have been GIVEN a CONCEPT of How He is, and What He is like,
        for He came to earth,. 2000 years ago, to show us how nice an Kind He is, and they murdered His Human Body.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p2ZqRCipX4

        from my point of view, Messiah YaHWeHShua, was none other than ODIN Himself, the God of gods, Father of all spirits, and He died, rather than to interfere with their free will, cause when i think of Him, i get very upset, because what the people of this world did to Him. i do not for a second believe “jesus” is Gods son, i believe ImmanuEL YaHWeHShua, was the Most High Himself, and we have not SEEN His son yet, His son is coming, and can be liked to a very very angry thor, cause somebody killed His Father, when He visited Midgard, i mean really, He cannot be killed, but still, He visits His tvgame (pantheism states god is part of this universe, we believe however Father is outside this universe, and this universe is just a snowglobe filled with rad stuff, and He has many many snowglobes.

        Your summary of Torah is PERFECT,

        Mar 12:29 And יהושע answered him, “The first of all the commands is, ‘Hear, O Yisra’ĕl, יהוה our Elohim, יהוה is one.

        Mar 12:30 ‘And you shall love יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first command.

        id say, to rock it super hard, Love Father more than anything, and love others more than yourself, then your hitting the secret a++ zone, and well, you doing that , by humbling yourself to be able to try help Geir, so AA+++

        i refer you to psalm 82 for that question, our duty, is very simple:

        Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!

        Ecc 12:14 For Elohim shall bring every work into right-ruling, including all that is hidden, whether good or whether evil.

        So, super easy infact, rest on Sabbath, ie saturday, and you will be “perfect” in accordance to what He wanst from us, we can never be “Perfect” but we can be perfectly in line with what he expects from us.

        also, please read Numbers 6, the nazirite vow, you must think about it, and its implications, cause thats the only way to “level up”, everyone must keep the 10 Commandments, but, if you wanna be Set APart, you gotta hit Numbers 6, but be warned, take at least 3 years to think about it, and find out what it entails, the Master dont say “dont take oaths”
        for nuthin hey, its serious business. My essay should help you crush any that dare speak against Bible, mwhahaha crush! its so rad finding 7′s like you! :D cutting edge! naturally Orthodox! what a pleasure! BLESS YOU! i pray Father blesses you so hard it stings. o and i can beyond a shadow of doubt prove YahShua is “God” that we get to later, the best IN YOUR FACE proof, is in Nicodemus 1 an 2.

        and He was not thin, He was a carpenter, and was MEGA BUFF. MEGA. He scared the pants of pontious pilate.

        • Ambicatus

          o and BTW, we cant all believe the same thing, the ONLY thing that is supposed to be the same, between us, is the keeping of the 10 Commandments, other than that, you supposed to have your OWN beliefs, and your OWN personal relationship with the Master, who Hears and Sees everything. its basicallyu “Thou shalt be a heretic, and think for thyself, but adhere to the Law”

          and the Law, is super easy, the WHOLE thing is in Exodus 20- end of 23. its not even 3 pages. how many books and books of “laws” are their just about road use>? and people moan “no one can keep the law” BULL, what about the millions of people that kept it from Moses thru Joshua to David until Solomon? it is an EASY Law, that takes BACKBONE. and that why they hate it. because of inherent cowardice. they will pay, my hate is great, and they killed our Fathers Human Body, IN HIS OWN TVGAME! and yet they still do not listen, and Father’ patience with them, is astounding, i break down in tears when i see people ignoring His Words, pouring scorn upon Him, the WHOLE catholic xchurch, walking around with TORTURE devices, BRAGGING for 2000 years, how they “killed” God. and the sunday xtians with their crosses, celebrating His Death, the catholics, with mass, re-living His murder, over and over again.

          what would be justice?
          what will happen, when alll the vikings alive today, find out jesus, was actually Odin, come to share Wisdom of the runes, and the jews and their pet inbred whites, Killed Him, you know there is , literally MILLIONS of us now? and they killed Father ODIN/ יהוה

          even looks the same. they killed ODIN.

          who did??

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlwnCoCK_EI

          they did.

          • Crow (hex)

            Ooo Richard you’re one scary dude! Lol XD Nice accent. Is that loboguntherg fella you as well?

        • Crow (hex)

          Yeah, I always believed God was more than the universe. That’s why there are singularities at the big bang and black holes, and you can’t go beyond the planck length. God created the big bang by concentrating energy and he will start again with a big crunch in the future. I called him the supreme being and he created other celestial beings. But they’re way bigger than the universe. That was my pantheistic belief. And they needed evil as a weapon, they’ll always need it, but it will be contained whereas at the moment it has been let loose on the universe

          • Crow (hex)

            And he added souls into the mix and the good ones will survive the big crunch. Think Armaggedon on a universal scale- that was my belief! And it all fitted nicely with my scientific beliefs as well. This is my worry, that scripture will make it smaller, because it only seems to relate it to earth- maybe it doesn’t

            • Crow (hex)

              And surely with trillions and trillions of planets there are trillions of intelligent lifeforms, and if each had their own scripture and Armaggedon battles, with there being one mega one before the big crunch.And then there could be many dimensions above that, before you even get to the supreme being. Basically, I’m saying the human brain just can’t conceive it, that’s how great my father is!

            • Ambicatus

              ZACTLY! oo wait till we get into “The Firmament” which is not this dome thing, but the very syrup between the atoms, a “field” which holds atoms in place, and is superfluidic and superconductive, and able to manipulate matter on the smallest scale, without any energy loss. The Firmament is the “higgs boson”, the field that suspends the planets, and holds our very atoms together so we dont just dissolve, for we are mostly, empty space, now, imagine if, this Firmament, was concious, and with your minds voice, you could ask it to do stuff for you,

              Luk_17:6 And the Master said, “If you have belief as a mustard seed, you would say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be pulled up by the roots and be planted in the sea,’ and it would obey you.

              now, if everything, is under total utter sub-sub atomic control, how much chance does the other team stand, and how nice is Father for LETTING them play out their stupid game, only to let us come at the end, and smash their little castles, mwhahaha

          • Ambicatus

            and yes, you too are an extra-dimensional entity, here to break stuff , and rule stuff, its just easier to say “ye were once a king of the past” less fanciful a pill to swallow, im sure you know of the technique… mwhahahaa

        • Crow (hex)

          Ah shucks. I’m deeply humbled by your lovely compliments. You’re right, it’s always the people who pretend to be normal who you’ve got to watch out for in life, the real sly ones who stab you in the back when you least expect it! The ones pretending to be nice.
          Under Geirs nutter exterior we can both see the real person underneath!

        • Crow (hex)

          Soz. I forgot to put caps for the Supreme Being and Father. But, yes it’s all being controlled at the sub- atomic level beyond the planck length, every single atom! And it’s funny, if you go from the very smallest thing 10 to the power- 20cm to the size of the known cosmos 10 to the power 25 cm, humans are slap bang in the centre!

          • Crow (hex)

            Correction: in control rather than controlled.

    • Crow (hex)

      You think outside of the box Richard like myself! Here is one of my theories.

      HOW WE JUDGE OUR SOULS BASED ON OUR THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS.

      The soul exists in a ‘ Higgs- Bosun ‘ type field which contains two extremes the Creative Zone and the Destructive Zone.

      The soul can move up or down in this field depending on what thoughts we have.

      If we have a very creative thought the soul moves into the creative zone.

      Here it can be influenced by Angelic entities.

      If the person has a very destructive thought then the soul will descend into the destructive zone.

      Here it can be influenced by demonic entities.

      With most thoughts the soul will rise and fall but will not enter either zone.

      If a soul resides in either zone for a long period, it can be heavily influenced

      If the person soul is in the creative zone and they make a creative Action, then the soul will be cleansed to a degree.

      If the persons soul is in the destructive zone and they make a destructive Action, then the soul will be demonised to a degee.

      Depending on how severe the action is will result in the degree of cleansing / demonisation that occurs.

      If the person follows God’s Law and he commits a sin and asks for forgiveness, then the soul will be cleansed of that sin.

      However, if the person follows Satan’s Laws and he commits a sin and asks for forgiveness, then God may not cleanse a person of that sin.

      If a person is heavily cleansed then they will eminate love to others.

      If a person is heavily demonised then a demon can attach itself to the persons soul in order to feed. They will eminate hatred towards others.

      Throughout life, the persons soul move up and down in this field. Mostly nothing happens, but sometimes the soul is either cleansed or demonised.

      Now here’s the KICKER.

      When a person dies the soul disattaches itself from the body and will either float or sink ecore coming to its final position in the field.

      If it rests in the creative zone, then the soul will rise to where the angels live ( extra dimensional entity), and will have the whole universe as its playground, and having whatever form it chooses.

      If it rests in the destructive zone then the soul will descend to where Satan resides, and he can do as he pleases with you. Extreme torture if he’s in the mood or he may set you a demonic task of sorts. However, this place is like a prison and you will not possess any special abilities.

      If the soul rests between these two zones then it will undertake some form of Karmic cleansing process . How long is up to the soul, but they may spend their next carnation not fully cleansed.The soul then decides what sort of challenges it wants to face and lessons it wants to learn.
      This place is where you meet up with your friends and family and is neither a playground or a prison.

      So at the end of the day, it is US who ultimately JUDGE our own souls. God has just created the mechanism for this to happen.

    • Crow (hex)

      Richard. Got your essay downloaded. Only 14 pages so I will read it this weekend, let it sink in, then talk about it next week.

      Btw. I’m even dreaming about our conversations together, new ones at that. Basically you agree with what I’m saying , add to it or explain it in a much better way! However, if you think what I say is rubbish, then thats ok, we can’t agree on everything!

      • Ambicatus

        um well, so far, i agree with everything you have said, i would say otherwise

    • Crow (hex)

      Got a great book on Jesus called ‘ The Wrong Messiah’ the real story of Jesus of Nazareth by Nick Page.

      It talks all about the carpentry stuff and where he would have worked and the type of buildings.

      I like the story when he is a young boy and he went to the Temple Mount with his parents during passover, where he was debating. At the end of the 8 day festival , when they were set to depart, they realised Jesus was missing. Retracing theirsteps they eventually find him in the temple courts, asking and answering questions, apparantly ignorant of all their anxiety. ‘ why have you treated us like this? Don’t you know we’ve been worried sick about you”

      ‘ Why were you searching for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house ? ‘ Luke 2:49

      From the back cover.

      ‘ He came from the wrong social class, the wrong place and the wrong profession’

      ‘ He ate with the wrong people, championed the wrong causes and attracted the wrong kind of supporters’

      ‘ He even spoke with the wrong accent. In fact, everything about Jesus of Nazareth was wrong’

      It’s a very detailed book, and explains very well how people lived in that period, and the journey he took with lots of maps to aid the reader.

    • Crow (hex)

      Funny that! Beefy says that Jesus is the Son of God, and offers scripture as proof. Something about only the Son can inherit. Yet you state that he was God, and the Son has yet to arrive. And you offer Nicodemus 1 & 2 as evidence. Where is Nicodemus 1& 2?

      Beefy needs several weeks to answer some of my questions. I’m not making things eay for him! Lol. I ask very deep philosophical questions at times, but I need the answers to them. He’s doing well so far! I might have to up the ante lol.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “Beefy needs several weeks to answer some of my questions.”

        Are we playing fast and loose with the facts? You said you’d withdraw for a week or two. I said good, that will give me plenty of time to dive into more thorough answers for a few of your more poignant questions.

        But BEEF never said he needed that time to answer, cobra.

        Attention to detail.

        • Crow (hex)

          Hiya Beef. Did you say to prepare the answers then? I’ll go back read your words again. Me fast and loose with the truth- sometimes, I suppose, if I’m careless. Now I’m going to have to quote that sentence, on here if I find it . I’ll watch what I say in future, but I’ll have to quote the sentence now, j6st to clarify things.

          • Crow (hex)

            ” I would agree that resuming our dialogue only after you have resettled your ‘ substance’ is a good idea. I have had occasion to begin composing replies to several of your questions, but you ask a few that will require time and thoroughness to answer correctly”

            Beefy said that I ask a few questions that will require time and thoroughness to answer correctly. But he now tells me he doesn’t NEED the time to answer. ( my emphasis).

            Can you still answer them correctly then? ( joke!)

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Was it my idea that you vacate the floor for a few weeks, or was it YOUR idea.

              ???

              Once YOU suggested that you would stop our dialogue for that period of time, I responded that it would be fine if you did, and that I might use that time to draw up more complete answers to a few of your questions.

              You need to pay closer attention to what is actually said if you expect to make real progress with WORD study.

              Again — attention to detail is very important.

            • Crow (hex)

              It was my idea. Yes and yes! I was only joking!

            • Mayhem

              First you claim Beef cried mercy then when you’re called on it you go to the trouble of quoting him, in order to prove the point, only to end up claiming it was a joke as soon as your own words were thrown back in your face.

              That’s a whack sense of humour you’ve got going on there, cobra, and I bet it helps you, no end, in deluding yourself that you’ve saved face. I thought you said you were good at this?

            • Crow (hex)

              Fk off you jerk. No point explaining anything to you , you’re full of crap You’re so far up Beefys backside, I’m surprised you can breath. You 2 work in a pair do you? It would appear so!

              I was conceding to Beef there you fool, did you not see the word ‘ correctly ‘ in the quote. I was correct in what I said, the first time, and I showed it with the quote. But I conceded out of good grace. The only person who is deluded is yourself.

              Go and God bother someone else, for I’m finished here. Although I might come back as different characters and screw with your head at times.

              Cobra R.I.P.

            • Crow (hex)

              And you had to come on to this thread and CONTAMINATE it with your DULLNESS. It oozes out of every pore of your body. You have NO IMAGINATION- zilch!
              And why are you on the crow thread anyway? You thought it was a load of bird poop anyway-it’s only a few pictures.
              So why are you here I ask myself? Why are you so interested in what me and Richard have to discuss.
              You ruined this thread for genuine people who were interested, and are interesting and open individuals themselves.
              But you had to bring your boorish and boring attitude on to this thread, and as a consequence I have decided to leave this site, once I’ve finished throwing insults at you.

              Mayhem- DULL, DULL, DULL!

            • Mayhem

              I’m sure folk are thrilled to have you do their thinking for them not to mention presuming to speak for everybody. Truth is, cobra, I’ve only ruined this thread for you.

              You’re no where near to being the first person, around these here parts, to decide to leave as a consequence of not being able to defend their claims.

              Bye bye now and hurl away till your hearts content but you should know you’re only troll number four or five so you best bring your A-game if you hope to impress me.

    • Crow (hex)

      Ah yes, that evolution theory thingymajig. It’s really not a problem to me, especially if you believe in reincarnation. My dogs are on that journey as well, I’m just gonna help them achieve it quicker.

      I think it’s on Evolution theory that me and Beefy are going to have a mega debate in the future. Can’t wait! Im just letting
      him play his hand first lol. But, Richard, why do you see it as such a problem? It makes God even more Supreme in my honest opinion. Flesh is flesh, our souls could have been on different worlds before , and only arrived on earth once flesh man had evolved. Just because our flesh and bones evolved from amoebas lol, doesn’t mean our souls were there then.

      God made souls in their complete form, and their evolution is from a higher base. Whist flesh and bones evolved from a much lower base. Souls only enter flesh and bones when they have evolved sufficiently.

      • Mayhem

        If you think evolution is a thing then you obviously haven’t read chapters 6 & 9 of Darwin’s seminal work.

        The man is rolling in his grave disbelieving how thoroughly we have turned his theory into a religion.

        Oh and millions or billions of years won’t fly either.

        • Crow (hex)

          It’s a scientific theory, which is extremely compelling in it’s arguments and evidence.

          Surely, you’re not suggesting the Earth is only 6000 years old? Do you not believe in Geology , plate tectonics etc?

          What science do you believe in, and what do you reject?

          • BEEF SUPREME

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W12jUKnPbHI&feature=youtu.be

            You really do need to review this material, cobra. It comes in at under an hour. It’s about as concise as it can be.

            • Crow (hex)

              Watch it later tonight or tomorrow. Will reply in private, shortly after watching. Actually busy tonight, so tomorrow it is.

          • Mayhem

            You say that, cobra, like science isn’t in complete harmony with the biblical account. Which leads me to conclude that you don’t even know the definition of “science”.

            Regarding Geology; please get back to me if you have any further questions after watching Beef’s video clip.

            By the way; I’m not saying that your teachers knowingly lied to you, about the grand canyon, no no, your teachers simply believed and repeated the same lies they were taught.

            Surely you’re not suggesting the Colorado river carved a path through land that is higher than the rivers source? Check that fact, cobra, and try to explain away natural law. I could do with a laugh.

            • Crow (hex)

              No I shan’t be getting back in touch with you, you’re way too pretentious.

              Yes, I have a MASTERS degree ( distinction) in Environmental Enginneering and WAS a science TEACHER for 10 years. My knowledge on this subject matter is far superior to your pseudoscience.

              You Bible people make things fit your beliefs, for you’re desperate and so you have to constantly DELUDE yourselves in order to make your little majik book work.

              Believe what you want but go and God bother someone who cares!

              Cobra R.I.P.

            • Crow (hex)

              And I was a hard rock Mining Engineer when I first started out, so I know a lot about Geology and strata, and I’ve been an archaeologist for 15 years, so I know all about gathering and analysing evidence.

              So what are your qualifications exactly? Needlework? Tapestry?

              I can just picture you, an old man in his pyjamas boring the pants off his missus. And BIN is your escape from this boring and dull existence, but you hate to see others having fun on this site. It drives you mad, so you try and infect them with your condescending and energy robbing words.

              You’re a social vampire, an energy sucking leech, a pompous know it all!

              Cobra R.I.P.

            • LifeIs

              Agreed it’s preposterous Mayhem, the river story. For the Grand Canyon. And Copper Canyon in Mexico. And the canyons on Mars and the one on Venus.

              They were carved by electrical arcing.

            • Ambicatus

              excuse me? you know he’s a chemical engineer? and the canyon was made in less than a month by the flood, regardless, the fact you would LAUGH at someone who is TRYING to learn about the Set APart Way,. is highly offensive to me, scorn, is for the sons of belial, who are EASY to identify, there is even a CHART TO HELP. AND you, YOU FKN AMERIKANS.

              WITH YOUR HORNS YOU BUTT AND PUSH. EZEKIEL 34!!

              You want to talk science??? how about cognoscere,
              cognitio, scire, scientia, scientificum, scientificus, and in the plural,
              scientifica, SEVEN different KINDS of SCIENCE.

              in English we have only the words “know” and “knowledge” wherewith to render them, for “cognize” and “cognition,” and “science” and “scientific” are by no means the equivalents of the corresponding or cognate Latin words.

              By scire, scientia, and scientifica, indicates mere memory-knowledge, that is, the knowledge men have in the external memory without application to life and practice.

              whereas cognoscere and cognitio are used in the stronger sense
              of actual and real knowledge of the matter in question, either by
              experience or in some other way; as when we say, “I do not think
              so; I know it.” This is cognoscere.

              YOU MERIKANS THINK YOU SO CLEVER!!! i hide nice, let you have your way,. so ALL TRUE COLOUR BE SHOWN!!

              fides scientifica, you have NOT!!!!

              Cognitio, cognitiones: “knowledge,” “knowledges.”
              Scientia (except when it really means “science”): “memoryknowledge.”
              Scientiae, scientifica: “memory-knowledges.”

              ITS PEOPLE LIKE THIS, THAT GIVE BIBLE BAD NAME!!! YOU THINK YOU KNOW SOMETHING! YOU KNOW NOTHING!@!!

              EARTH IS BILLIONS OF YEARS OLD. THIS CYCLE IS 6000 YEARS OLD.

              o and thank you, for giving me reason, to put in place Princess Final Judgement, amerikans, shall NOT come before Her.

              adious ya rude prickkks.

              o and jed, YOUR A JERK.

              feck off, see ALL OF YOU IN THE KUMITE!!~ fkn aggrogant know it all chumps who can only BARELY speak ONE very poor language!

              go learn how to do muscle ups, lest you LOOOOSE in the Tournament, and have to bge my slave, and i am a realllllyyyyy uncool guy,. my slaves have a 10 min life expectancy.

            • Ambicatus

              BWAHAHAAA NEEEDLEWORK!! TAPESTRY!!! BURRRRNNNNNNNN.

              we are SUPPOSED to be PRACTISING SYSTEMA, which is ALWAYS building UP, never breaking down, the psyche and the physical of your nearest. now, i aint seen NO DAMN SYSTEMA WHATSOEVER from the merikans!!!

              ONLY CLUCKER PASSES, the rest fail like bastiches. o how i baited and waited, and then this crow came along, and SAT ON THE EAGLE. and saw what the eagle was all about, inspected the BEST of the eagle, and found them ALL to be well, jerks. i, am searching for fun people to hang out with FOREVER, and well, FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL, cobras invited, infact, when you idiots find our who cobra really is, you have heart attack.

              THIS WHOLE BIN THING WAS A TEST , to SEE, of what METAL is the BEST of BIN made?

              and well, CLUCKER, is the best of BIN,,, Cobra Commander and i , are DONE with our TESTS. and you merikans, failed horribly, i have MOUNTAINS of proof, and She has seen it all, A LACK OF COMPASSION, wonder how the Paraclete gonna deal with that! HAHA FAIL

              dumbasses. sheesh. had to GOAD the scorn and malice an DELUSIONAL SELF LOVE. well, good stuff, im glad.

              ENJOY THE RAGNAROK, you, have been “served”

            • Mayhem

              All good, cobra, although I can’t help but notice that your, self proclaimed, superior knowledge has no answer other than the overused and tired ad-hominem. Is that the best I can expect?

              What you call “pseudoscience” I call the published findings of nuclear physicist Dr. Robert V. Gentry. He treatises on the Mystery of the Radiohalos in many of the world’s foremost scientific journals during the mid to late seventies.

              For sure there is some criticism for Dr. Gentry’s body of work, mostly ad-hominem, yet here we are more than forty years later and still no refutation.

              So: his opinion withstanding he posits…

              If the earth was only thousands of years old “the entire structure of the historical natural sciences would dissolve into formless-ness.”

              … hmm, formless-ness, huh?

              Gen 1:2 – “Now the earth was without form…”

            • Mayhem

              This is the hotel california, cobra, you’re going nowhere. I do hope you’ll spend more time organising some sort (any sort) of reasoned rebuttal rather than waste your words telling me how you don’t like me so much. 

              Don’t we still have evolution to do? You’ll probably bring up the galapagos finches, neanderthal man, lucy or some such and after they get laughed out of the debate (using science, sense, reason and logic) you’ll likely revert to form and go back to reading me my pedigree.

              It’s all good, cobra my friend, cry me a river.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              If you have something to say to me Gunther, then have the moxie to actually say it.

              But do recall, if you’ve had some ‘snake’ or other pissing in your ear, that the enemy likes to sow discord amongst the brethren.

              So say on.

              Or simply convict me with no confirming witness.

            • Crow (hex)

              Yeah, laughed out of the debate on BIN, that’s true, cause you’re part of a gang working together, whilst I would be on my own. Cause if a bunch of idiots grouped together picked on one individual in real life, you would call that bullying. Anyway, my last comment explains a way round this, so you don’t have your gang to help you out. An even playing field and I will rip you to shreds.

              As for you mocking my superior knowledge, yes through many years of study in which professors marked my work and through many years work experience in related fields.

              So I ask you again what qualifications and work experience in this area do you have?

              At least have the decency to answer this question.

              How old do you think the earth is? Do you believe in plate tectonics? Do you know what causes earthquakes? What about coastline volcanos?
              What about different rock layers? How do you think coal was formed? What about diamonds?

              I’ll have hundreds of questions such as these and if you’re unable to answer them in a reasonable manner then you will show yourself to be a complete an utter fraud. But, I’m not going to be bullied by you and your gang of pseudo idiot friends on this site..

              That is not going to happen in a million years. I’ve seen how you operate on this site with your gang and how you mock others as a pack. That isn’t winning an argument that’s bullying and it makes you feel smug and self important.

              What you didn’t realise with this crow threadis that it was a trap. Me and Richard were the crows ( avatar big clue) and you merikans were the eagle.

              I wanted to flush you out in the open, so I could expose you, but the debate that I wanted with you on the age of the earth I do not want to conduct on this site.

              Read my last comment and if you’re up for the challenge then contact me.

              Cobra R.I.P.

              P.S As to you Beef, I’m not a snake in the grass, I haven’t told him what you told me, Richard is saying those things because Richard thinks those
              things, absolutely nothing to do with me. Maybe he’s seen how you lot gang up on people on this site, and he doesn’t like it.

              So your suggestion that I’ve been’pissing in his ear is false. Richard makes his own mind up on things, as is evidenced by his last comment.

            • Ambicatus

              blegh, amerikans,

              moxie shmoxie, you merikans faaaailed, the code of conduct is thusly:

              Jud 1:22 And show compassion toward some who are doubting,
              Jud 1:23 but others save with fear, snatching them out of the fire, hating, even the garment defiled by the flesh.1 Footnote: 1See Gal. 5:19-21, Rom. 8:5-10.

              and well, gee, i seen you lot cut down many a green, and many a blue, rammin an buttin with yer horns, just like the “israeliete” here, “jerks” o how fun this is, and im so glad my opinion is now set, you merikans, are no better nor worse than the people here, exactly the same infact.

              some say amerikans are the worst, i beg to differ, they are the same as here and aus and the jingo culture of engerland, they are eithe ego-driven “heroes” in own mind, or sheep, very few HERETICS, ie people who think for themself, so, meh,

              BORED, yall are no better. nor worse than the “modern” people here,

              and yaay, watch out fer crows hey, adious.

              i ALWAYS ignore the rude, but here i make an exception, “cant send emails” yeah right, its just, you lot know everything, so why bother, dont need my help

            • BEEF SUPREME

              If generalizations are the goal Gunther, then you win the prize.

              Are you obsessed with judging your brothers? So you get to murder us? And will you now bring charges against us without having the courtesy to actually say anything?

              You can quote Scripture, I see. Have you ever actually learned the meaning of even a single verse?

              If you have something to say, then say it. Try conducting yourself like a man. Try actually living in the world your Father has placed you into, and try using your words to make yourself understood. Communicate. Are you able to do that?

              What did I do to make you change your obsequious fawning into scorn? Speak. One day you want to serve at BEEF’s altar, the next day you want him dead. Why?

              [As to your email 'situation' Gunther -- there's a word for what you do in plain language. It's called lying. I notice that you lie often. Would you like a few specifics? Take care the judgment wherewith you judge. Even scales, friend. If you don't keep them even, HE will.]

              You have my email and I know there is no reason you are prevented from using it. If you have something to say to me, then say it. Why don’t YOU try actually behaving yourself according to the Word for a change, rather than worrying about what everyone around you is doing.

            • Crow (hex)

              SERVE AT THE ALTAR OF BEEF! XD XD XD

              Can I serve at the altar of the Beef your ROYAL SUPREMENESS!

              And there was me thinking that PRIDE was one of the 7 deadly sins.

              Moral: Pride comes before a fall!

              And if you want my opinion Gunther did the decent thing in not telling the truth for he didn’t want to hurt your feelings. He was trying to be nice to you that’s all! And in Gods eyes that is okay.

              And you admitted to me that you have been deceptive on the BINs, only sometimes for the right reasons.

              And as for being able to communicate he is extremely good at this.

              And as for explaining the Word, in my opinion he is far better at doing thisthan you.

              Gunther is a very kind, decent, understanding and humble person in my opinion, and he only deferred to you because he felt it was the right thingto do.

              Beef a bit of advice. Drop the supreme bit from your name mate. Because
              your taking the Lord’s name in vain, for there is only one Supreme Being, and asking people to serve at your altar, well those are the words of someone who thinks they’re Divine.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              You’ll know when I’m speaking to you Jon because I will address you. Stop answering for a grown man when no one has spoken to you.

              Obsequious fawning. Go look it up.

              BEEF SUPREME. Go look him up.

              And away with your advice.

            • Mayhem

              Did you just say, cobra, that it’s okay with God to not tell the Truth? If so I think you might be holding your bible the wrong way up.

            • Damien

              BEEF SUPREME. Go look him up.

              ———-

              I’ve not been keeping up. What am I missing?

              http://www.hailtothebeef.com/images/royal-bitch-cta.png

            • Crow (hex)

              :lol: Maiden, Medina, , Damien. I love you gal. You can nail me to that tree if you want. Classic picture, I’m going to repeat it at the bottom of the comments, that picture sums him up to a T.

    • Ambicatus

      a MEGA quote gfrom the gematria:

      “the united states of jews helping apes kill whitey, since the end of world war two”

      • Crow (hex)

        Aids, Ebola, Chimeras?

        With this Gematria. How many combinations? 10, 000?

        What determines what is in the top list?

        How big is the database for each number?

        What’s the best method of choosing the correct sentence?

        Any other ideas regarding Gematria?

        After reading my above comments do you still think I’m a blue 7 or a turquoise 7ish?

        • Ambicatus

          mwhahahaaa! um, combinations, 50 to the power of ten, so each intelligible sentence, is mathematically impossible, pretty cool huh?

    • Crow (hex)

      Richard. I’m going to ask Beefy this same question, so you don’t have to answer it. BWAHAHAHA!

      I was discussing our conversation regarding reincarnation, and being Kings in a previous life with Mayhem.

      He stated that believing in reincarnation was almost Messianic. When I asked him why he thought this, he said it was only a small step ie being a King to being a Messiah King of Kings.

      Now regardless on whether Jesus was the Son of God or God, isn’t the title King of Kings BELITTLING to a Supreme Creator?

      In my opinion it is! I can understand why it was used in ancient times, for Kings really did think they were divine, and were closer to God than ordinary folks.

      But the worst case scenario, the Supreme Creator being the father of the King of Kings is an insulting statement to make. Why then is this title used in the Bible?

      • Mayhem

        “But the worst case scenario, the Supreme Creator being the father of the King of Kings is an insulting statement to make. Why then is this title used in the Bible?”

        Perhaps because your opinion wasn’t considered when the Bible was written?

        “KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS”

        or in the Greek

        Βασιλεὺς βασιλέων κύριος κυρίων

        Rev 19:16

        • Crow (hex)

          Hi Mayhem.

          Yeah it is a good job I wasn’t around then. Don’t feel i would have survived very long!

          But it is my belief that Kings who thought they were divine in those days were responsible for inserting that statement into the Word.

          Anyone reading: just had a couple of Jehovahs witnesses round. Any views regarding this?
          Should I listen to what they have to say?

          • BEEF SUPREME

            Any Jehovah’s Witnesses you might encounter in the world (or at your doorstep) will be well-read in the Scriptures (at least, in their own ‘version’ of the Scriptures) and will be well versed in any objection or question you may pose them.

            If you intend to spar with any of them, you must prepare before hand or they will have their way with you.

            Their doctrine is unsupportable with the Word of God, but they always have solid-sounding arguments to defend their beliefs. So unless one is very familiar with the Scriptures, it may sound as if the JWs are making a good deal of sense. But they aren’t. They’re only selling man-made doctrine.

            • Crow (hex)

              I’m not going to join their religion that’s for sure!

              Of course I’ll listen, but they won’t sway me into their way of thinking.

              I’ll just politely decline whatever they have to offer. I just like hearing views on different things as it makes me more informed.

              Why do people find them so annoying, that’s what I’d like to discover.

            • Crow (hex)

              Beefy, I’m very good at changing the topic of conversation – my mum taught me the dark arts with regard to this. You’d never win an argument with my mum, she’ll lead you down blind alleys. BWAHAHAHA!

            • Crow (hex)

              They’ll wish they never met me! Keep changing the topic, side track them,keep answering their questions with questions of my own which are totally irrelevant.keep disappearing for a fag break and letting dogs out to relieve themselves etc .Complete and utter mischief is my name. Lol

    • Crow (hex)

      Richard. Reading your essay on the Bible: Fact or Fiction. Don’t worry, I’m not going to rush to judgement with regards to this matter. This is a long process for me and I have many questions that need answering, and obviously, I shall study very long and hard before reaching any conclusions.

      At the moment I’m pantheistic with a bit of Scripture, coming from a scientific background. Where I end up is anyones guess. I want to understand and obey the 10 commandments and understand and put into practice the moral teachings of Jesus- this is a given, I just feel this in my bones!

      I’ll always be on yours and Beefy’s side regardless on whether I totally believe in the Word.

      Anyway, back to reading.

    • Crow (hex)

      Not trying to be pedantic, but microscopes were being used way before Darwins’ s time. Electron microscopes, now that’s a different matter!

    • Crow (hex)

      Got to say Richard you’ve got a very good style of writing!

    • Crow (hex)

      Richard. Where in the Bible does it predict to the exact day, the fall of the Ottoman Empire? Linking these predictions with the relevant passages would improve your essay, in my opinion.

    • Crow (hex)

      These motley array of 40 men who wrote the 66 books. Are there any authentic originals known to exist? If not, what are
      earliest known copies to be in existence today?

    • Crow (hex)

      Ah! You answered the above question to a degree 125 BC . You like Isiah Richard, is he one of your favourites?

      I’ve got the complete set of the Dead Sea Scrolls, so I can make comparisons. MWHAHAHA

    • Crow (hex)

      This skip code. What Bibles are they in. Is it in the King James? Can you speak Hebrew Richard? What about Aramaic?

      • Ambicatus

        its only in the Original Hebrew and Greek, and nay, but i speak the New Lip.

    • Crow (hex)

      ‘ Mole Cricket’ love it BWAHAHAHA XD XD XD

    • Crow (hex)

      What does NTBFW mean?

      Conclusions: A brilliantly written and extremely compelling case, and offered for free.

      I’ve always thought the number seven was unusual as it relates to many things. Does the number twelve also? I’ve seen this number a lot in nature and mentioned in the Bible as well! If this is the case maybe you could add it to your essay.

      I’m very interested in what you had to say regarding the Book of Genesis and the periodic table, pi etc. Any sources where I could look into this further? Would I need to know Hebrew to see for myself?

      Although the Bible is heavily coded, does this mean the stories are true also? Like Genesis, for example, is the code more important than the actual story that is told?

      What about the books that have been left out of the Bible, does the codex work for them also?

      Because the first 5 books have been heavily codified, does this mean we can therefore take the actual stories with a pinch of salt? And it is the remaining Books that hold the real truth? Personally, I’ve always found the first 5 Books to be less believable than the others. It would make a lot of sense if this were the case.

      Well done Richard ( Gunther)! You are indeed a true warrior for God, a fine scholar, superb writer, and a humble servant.

    • Crow (hex)

      IMPORTANT MORAL: NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY IT’S COVER. – This relates to people also!

      Fortunately, I’ve always a gut feeling with regards to this! HAIL Richard!

    • Crow (hex)

      Correction: Beefy did say that Jesus is God Richard. I made a mistake once again, reading all this son inherits stuff.

      Its just all too confusing, why call Jesus Son of God when he is God. The Word – gibberish more like. Designed to confuse. No wonder noone seems to agree on the meaning of Scripture.

      Sorry Rich. I’ve let the side down, and will be punished accordingly, but I’m gonna stick with the 10 commandments andthe teachings of Jesus. II’ll leave Scripture to the experts like yourself and Beefy.

      I don’t want to misrepresent, misquote or keep clashing with good people anymore, but anyway your article was superb and you are my fav person on BIN. I love you fella, and give my love to the Clucker, Supermario, Big dog / little fish and Bill lyle.

      If you need to contact me at anytime ( Ragnorag etc) [email protected] . My name is Jon

      THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED ( at least by me)

      Take care Gunther , I’ll always think of you! and thankyou for all the lovely compliments. Cobra R.I.P

      • Ambicatus

        i do NOT compliment, or do i flatter, i state Truth and Fact. and yes, let us leave this place to the EXPERTS who clearly know more than a master geologist and a “terrorist” pah.

        • Mayhem

          Well, Richard, the facts are this omen is at least 6 months old and you can be as offended as you like but what better place to build from except truth?

          • Crow (hex)

            You never did answer my question as to why you’re on this crow thread. You said it was a load of rubbish, so why were you here?

            To SPY that’s why!

            You never realised that this thread was a TRAP, designed purposely to weed you out.

            You never realised that the crows were me and Richard ( I even had it in my avatar) and the eagle was you merikans.

            In all my time on BIN , you’ve never put a leading original comment down, instead you just react to what others say.

            I had my suspicions about you since the Damien debate, that you were spying on me!

            But to what purpose? Since you and Beef came on to this thread at exactly the same time, you’re either ONE person or are working together!

            This is all about you both trying to DOMINATE a persons thoughts and trying to control how they behave, that much is clear. And you target newcomers to this site, in order to swell your ranks.

            In this regard you’re no better than Williams, Wisecracker and Abdiel Freeman.

            Like Richard stated, you guys are on the first onion ring, and that is where you will remain, boring and uninspiring!

            I want to know about the Word, which I do believe God gave, but I also believe he gave many other Words as well. If he had put them in the Bible at that time, then nobody then would have believed in it.

            So no, I do not want my thoughts controlled and dominated by dullards such as yourself. I don’t want my creativity and imagination crushed by you merikans.

            This ‘ snake ‘ TRAP was set deliberately, and you took the bait. Did you not read my comment above about setting traps.

            You never did tell me what qualifications you had. You know based on a lot of hard work , research, work experience , exams etc.

            The only way you would feel you have won a debate on the above issues is because you are part of a GANG who conspire together to ridicule another persons opinions.

            Have that debate in another forum, wher there are experts who can referee and I would RIP you to shreds, no question at all.

            But you’re safe on BIN with your co- conspirators, and that makes you a smug git! safe in that knowledge.

            No wonder BIN is full of idiots, it’s people like you Mayhem and your gang who are driving away intellectuals with your mockery and pseudoscience, ensuring this is the status quo.

            So you want a debate, not on this site fella. And if you really want to debate then it’s only you, just me and you, no one else, and to be refereed properly.

            My email details are in the above comment. Let me know if you want to take up the challenge., and we can set the rules.

            Cobra R.I.P

            • The Clucker

              Cobra,

              You said:

              “What sort of person am I ? Probably tactical planner using underhand tactics in orderto achieve victory. Very q quick instincts and awareness of a situation. Leading others into false sense of superiority, whilst gathering the information needed beforeattacking them with full force ie being patient, and letting them attack me at first. Working out their weaknesses. On BIN I like to use a persons own words to undermine their argument. I’ll also subtlety bait them in order to gain a response. I always have the last word and sometimes plant seeds in their heads.”

              First off, Brother Cobra, if you had (your words) “Very q quick instincts and awareness of a situation.”

              … You wouldn’t have told the whole website, posted for all to see, that you were doing that. Now everyone knows what you’re up to. See how that works? Why the deceit when you are among brothers?

              Secondly, you said: “On BIN I like to use a persons own words to undermine their argument.”

              Well, I’m about to do exactly that to you.

              Thirdly, you said: “I’ll also subtlety bait them in order to gain a response. I always have the last word and sometimes plant seeds in their heads.”

              You are not the first or only one here to employ these tactics, nor will you be the last.

              You had made a statement previously that you thought to get in touch with BEEF because you thought he would be a good teacher/scholar for you to learn from as far as scripture goes. Sorry, I’d quote it but couldn’t find it, so I’m paraphrasing.

              You two obviously emailed back and forth and he courteously decided to take time out of his everyday life to answer your questions, as he has mine. Sounds like a nice thing for a person to do to me. Then, you make this comment…. ????

              “Beefy needs several weeks to answer some of my questions. I’m not making things eay for him! Lol. I ask very deep philosophical questions at times, but I need the answers to them. He’s doing well so far! I might have to up the ante lol.”

              Sounds a bit condescending and big-headed, doesn’t it, Brother Jon?

              Then, after that, when he seemed to take offense to something that I personally would deem offensive if said to me, you say…

              “Beefy said that I ask a few questions that will require time and thoroughness to answer correctly. But he now tells me he doesn’t NEED the time to answer. ( my emphasis).

              Can you still answer them correctly then? ( joke!)”

              Ok, yeah, you said “(joke!)” at the end, but still it was very condescending. Especially when he has given his time to HELP YOU.
              If you punch a guy in the balls do you say “JOKE!” afterwards? Does that make it OK?

              Then when called out on this, you say to Brother Mayhem…

              “Fk off you jerk. No point explaining anything to you , you’re full of crap You’re so far up Beefys backside, I’m surprised you can breath.”

              Well that just about sums it up. Like to dish it out but don’t want to take it yourself? Believe it or not some of the folks here are friends and are willing to stand behind their friends when they know it’s right. With the logic you showed there it could be argued that your head is up Richard’s backside.

              “Go and God bother someone else, for I’m finished here. Although I might come back as different characters and screw with your head at times.”

              For someone that has expressed interest in learning about the Bible from others, that comment is a bit confusing to me. Especially from someone that said outright that they were looking for a ‘scholar’ in the way of The Word.

              If you’re finished here, then why come back to screw with peoples heads? Doesn’t that say a thing or two about your character?

              “But you had to bring your boorish and boring attitude on to this thread, and as a consequence I have decided to leave this site, once I’ve finished throwing insults at you.

              Mayhem- DULL, DULL, DULL!”

              Mayhem is not dull. He often has very funny comments that make me laugh. And your attack on him… again, doesn’t that say something of your character?

              “No I shan’t be getting back in touch with you, you’re way too pretentious.

              Yes, I have a MASTERS degree ( distinction) in Environmental Enginneering and WAS a science TEACHER for 10 years. My knowledge on this subject matter is far superior to your pseudoscience.”

              So, you call someone pretentious, then go on to brag about your pedigree, then call what they believe pseudoscience? Pot calling the kettle black, wouldn’t you say?

              Then you had the nerve to say this to Brother Mayhem:

              “I can just picture you, an old man in his pyjamas boring the pants off his missus. And BIN is your escape from this boring and dull existence, but you hate to see others having fun on this site. It drives you mad, so you try and infect them with your condescending and energy robbing words.

              You’re a social vampire, an energy sucking leech, a pompous know it all!”

              Again, character. So much for constructive debate, Right?

              Gunther,

              I know you think this Cobra chap is trying to look after the ‘Set Apart Way’, but don’t you see what’s going on here? You have like minded Brothers in this place that have your back. How many times have you called BEEF and Mayhem Brother?

              Proverbs 12:22

              I would really have liked to be in contact with you outside of this site because I call you Friend and Brother. If you can receive emails, you should just let your friends know. I’m glad you think highly of me, as I think highly of you as well. I tried to bite my tongue but I will not stand by and let someone sow discord among Brothers.

              God Bless,

              Brother Mayhem, Brother Gunther, Brother Jed, and Brother Cobra.

              I have nothing against you, Cobra, but using deceitful means to create discord among friends just isn’t very cool. I hope you stick around here and be more respectful toward those that are willing to help you with questions you may have.

              Peace

              ~The Clucker

            • Crow (hex)

              Cor that was very annoying. My very long final comment didn’t enter and the thread froze. So I’ll make this a bit shorter.

              Well done the Clucker! You’re a decent chap. Beef pixxed me off when he told me dogs don’t have souls.

              I’ve found it hard on this site where my lifetime experience is considered a lie. I suppose I got caught up in all the negativity and abuse and it rubbed off on me.In my personal life I’m a very nice person, for example today I gave a friend £300 so he could buy a car in order to get to work.However this site has turned me into a bad person and it is affecting my soul and spirit.

              I want to get closer to God, however Richard is the only person who can achieve this, in my opinion.so thanx for the help fellas, but it is not needed anymore.

              I’ll miss most of you apart from the racists, so I might pop in from time to time to hear your voices and read your comments but I’m done with the commenting.

              If anyone wants to chat then my email address is in one the above comments. The Clucker could you tell KOS that Iif he wants me to do a bio of him on wikipedia claiming he is the Messiah then he’ll have to contact me by email. But I won’t be defaming anyone, I’ll just say he is convinced he knows who the antichrist is.

              Who’d have thought! Researchers at Caltech are convinced that planet X exists. It has a mass 10 times the earth, has a highly eliptical orbit, and does a complete circuit every 10 to 20 thousand years. They roughly know where it is and just have to confirm it with an observation. So Niburu, Nemesis is real.lol

              And its on that note that I leave you all. And clucker , the above stuff on baiting etc.was just to help others if they wanted to do this. As a final gift, for I already knew that my time was up! But since you’re all decent chaps I don’t expect any of you to use the advice I gave lol.

              I’m going back to being a loving and decent person, my time as cobra the snake is over. If you want to know the real me then email.

              Adious. For cobra is dead R.I.P.

            • Mayhem

              Thank you for your input, brother Clucker, you have addressed some points that I was choosing to ignore. 

              Gunther accuses me of not raising up, our new friend cobra, and does it in his usual charming manner. Not to mention labeling me an Edomite and verging on Talmudic. But I can’t help noticing the example he set, here let me explain. 

              Cobra, in a comment to Richard, was doubting Beef’s obvious assertion regarding the diety of Messiah. Richard didn’t bother to set cobra to rights and I can’t see how leaving folk in error, scripturaly, gentles them toward truth. What’s next? Let them have easter and christmas because it’s just a bit of harmless fun!

              Richard goes on to lecture on my manners but has he seen the way cobra speaks to me? Did he see where cobra started the mocking and scoffing or the warning I gave him about it? As far as I’m concerned I’m following cobra into the gutter and it’s really up to him to take the first step toward respectful discourse. 

              I’m struggling with tableting for a couple of days, you might notice the capital I’s, so I’m glad someone threw cobra’s little game back in his face. I snorted coffee when I saw him taking a leaf out of my own book.

              @Richard – 2nd Timothy 3:16 – my Viking brother.

            • Mayhem

              I don’t know how debating works where you’re from, cobra, but I have made my stand, for a young earth, based on the video evidence that Beef proffered. Now I wait for you to either refute the evidence or present an alternative more substantial than mere opinion. Evidence for millions and billions of years if you please and rhetorical questions will not suffice.

              Along with ignoring many of your insults, cobra, I also ignore irrelevant questions and incorrect personal assumptions. My qualifications could only matter if I rested on my own opinion, which I don’t. I have argued for the published, reputable, findings and assertions of a nuclear physicist who discovered something that blows a great big hole through the gap theory. I can blow just as large a hole through evolution. No opinion, just science, reason and logic.

              There is no gang, cobra, and in point of fact it was Gunther/Richard who coined the phrase “team-bible”. There is an eclectic bunch of bible nutters who have the audacity to think that the word of God is literally true. We allow, as ultimate authority, the Bible to define and explain itself.

              If you seek to learn the Scriptures, cobra, then you need to know that there’s no picking and choosing which bits are important. You need to know that God insists you study to show yourself approved and that you learn the way through every perceived contradiction or supposed error. You need to know that God would rather see your back than have you “lukewarm” in the faith.

            • Mayhem

              By the way Gunther/Richard is the biggest racist here and goodbye, again, be well.

            • Crow (hex)

              Sorry, cluckeroo. I just read your comment where you called me deceitful. Tell me where I have been deceitful? I said I used underhand tactics, for example withholding information or being ambiguous. But I haven’t lied on this site. So show me please where I have lied.

              By accusing me of something that I have not done, actually shows that you are being deceitful in making that remark. If you can’t show it then I’dlike an apology please. Your a decent chap but that was below the belt.

              So man up and apologise please. And you’re not reading this thread right, in my opinion, just being very selective in the quotes you took and taking it out of context.

            • Crow (hex)

              Jeez Mayhem, I really do want to leave this thread.

              First off Beef missed that comment about Jesus being the Son as well.

              Secondly, I told Richard I had made a mistake, by email. It was a mistake, and Beef corrected me when I mentioned Iit by email.

              Beef was annoyed with second bit, but I’ve shown with the quote that I was correct. But I shouldn’t have said it, but I didn’t feel it was that big a deal at the time. This is how this battle started because you had to jump in with your comment. That’s why I was pxssed off with you.

              As I stated giving reasons I will not have the debate with you on BIN.

              If you want to do it we do it on an open forum like Facebook.

              Beef and Richard have an issue that started way before i came here. This battle has brought it into the open. That’s sad!

              I was wrong to insult you, but you’ve said things that have annoyed me.

            • Mayhem

              Yes, cobra, and it’s called the dark art of eliciting a response, innit? I know the game and how it’s played.

              Of the many criticisms you’ve hurled my way the only thing that sticks is  ”pompous know-it-all”.

              For example:

              1) – the evidence for evolution has been unable to answer Darwin’s own questions. Questions that Darwin acknowledged were fatal to his theory. I gave you the chapters.

              2) – the geological and fossil record attest a young earth and the flood. 

              3) – particle physics found an unexplainable vibrating nothing-ness and according to the gospel of John in the beginning was the word.

              4) – carbon dating is fantastically error prone and wholly reliant on gross assumption.

              5) – the mathematics of quantum physics collapses as the zero point is approached.

              6) – the big bang theory makes less sense than “God did it”.

              7) – palaeontologists rely way to much on artists impressions and arbitrary decisions.

              8) – history is nothing like what is taught in schools.

              9) – scripture is true and there is no field of science which gives rise to question the creation narrative.

              It is my boast that I can pile the lies of men so deep that an honest person is left with a choice between two options. The choice, cobra, is yours alone to make.

            • Crow (hex)

              I keep telling you I’m not having this debate with you on BIN. You want to believe in all this then fine. But you’re not proving anything at all by these repeated statements. For I’m not debating it with you here.
              But as long as we’re not attacking each other than fine. Tbh im more interested in Gunther and Jeds argument. And so should you!

              You pompous know- it- all lol

              Jon

            • Mayhem

              If you think that’s bad we could do vaccines, anthropogenic global warming, overpopulation, peak “fossil” oil, coal bad, wind farms good, nukes-r-evil, chem-trails, Nibiru/Blue-Kachina/Planet-X or we could talk philosophy till we’re blue in the face.

              As Beef Supreme once said to me – “You’re a grown man aren’t you so why are you letting others do your thinking for you?”.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Cobra wrote and asked, where he has been deceitful:

              “Beef pixxed me off when he told me dogs don’t have souls.”

              It has been a LONG time since I have met ANYONE who put MORE words into my mouth than YOU, COBRA. I NEVER said to you anything of the kind, and I dare you to show otherwise with a quotation.

              This is GROSS misrepresentation and you make it your HABIT to traffic in this kind of bad information. You have no intention to hear the words that are actually offered to you by your partners in dialogue, and prefer rather to substitute your own words. A man can NEVER have a meaningful conversation with ANYONE who does what you do.

              “…I’m done with the commenting.”

              That will be about the FORTIETH time you’ve said so. And yet…

              “I’m going back to being a loving and decent person, my time as cobra the snake is over.”

              So you only came HERE to be a snake? Is that it?

              “First off Beef missed that comment about Jesus being the Son as well.”

              Why? Because he didn’t remark on that as well? The more you say, the less is worth remarking on because so little of it bears any meaningful connection with reality.

              “Beef was annoyed with second bit, but I’ve shown with the quote that I was correct…”

              No. You showed with the quote that I was encouraging you to take time off by saying I could use that time to do what I said. YOU suggested the time. NOT me. Again, you are wrong. Your representation of the facts is in ERROR and you ascribe words to me I never said.

              “Beef and Richard have an issue that started way before i came here. This battle has brought it into the open. That’s sad!”

              You are full of wickedness, friend. Full of division and deceit.

    • Crow (hex)

      And Clucker, all the above tactics were for other people to use as I was leaving the site.

      I listed my life experiences because people are saying it is all a lie. How would you like it if someone did the same thing to you! How would you feel if you were told your parents weren’t really your parents. You’d get angry wouldn’t you.

      As for calling Gunther the biggest racist on BIN Mayhem, that isn’t true at all. The biggest racist on BIN is Billy P.by a country mile.

      Richard says he’s uber racist but I haven’t seen him use racist language on BIN like Pink Slime constantly uses. And there must be hundreds of people on this site that are anti-semitic and anti muslim.

      God says to forgive the badness in people, and Richard has so many good qualities, if you really knew him which you don’t, you see a completely different side to him. I love the guy, and think he is the best person to bring me closer to God.

      Look everybody we’re all the same side here, but we choose to approach it from different ways. Jesus says we should forgive and that is exactly what we should do. So let us do the decent thing and call this battle off.

      You brothers can have this website to yourselves and me and Gunther can correspond by email.

      You’re always welcome to talk to me via email. As long as you don’t start preaching.

      Omw, this all started because I said Beefy needed a bit of time to answer my questions. Well I asked him a question, relating to the afterlife and I specifically asked him to answer it before all the other questions. This was because he had told me reincarnation was a load of bull according to the Word. So I said I needed the answer promptly, and he still hasn’t answered yet. So I wasn’t trying to annoy him with that comment, I was just innocently stating a fact. I didn’t know it would bother him tbh, for I just thought me and Gunther were on that thread.

      The honest truth of the matter is me and Jed clash, we don’t gel, whilst me and Gunther do gel, and get along very well.

      So can we symbolically shake hands on all this or do we have to keep on arguing.

      Jon.

    • Crow (hex)

      Duh! Because a cobra is a snake dummy. Some snakes are venomous, but snakes are NOT DECEITFUL!

      Jon ” I believe all animals have souls- does Scripture agree with this?”

      Jed ” You are confusing the Scripural terms ‘spirit’ and ‘soul’ ”

      Jed (Beef Supreme) ” In the past I have practiced deceit in my time at BIN , and I have always regreted it. Well maybe not always, because there have been a few occasions where I copied the accounts of vile disrupters and was, as a result instrumental in their silencing. But this is rare”

      No snakes are not deceitful, but humans DEFINITELY ARE!

      Jon

      • Crow (hex)

        Jerimiah 17.9

        The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked, who can understand it?

        ” Gunther is a mess, Jon”

        ” Gunther is a man highly tainted with mingled seed”

        ” Gunther has embraced the doctrine of modern teachers who a man of discernment would recognise immediately as worthy to be cast on the dung heap”

        ” He is a sponge, however as it concerns information gathering. He lacks spiritual discerment”

        ” I did not wish to smother him with rebuke and negative critique”

        ” It was about the time of our last correspondence that he began complaining about not being permitted to use email. Do you see what I see? ” – I wonder why ? Lol

        ” If keeping friends is more important to you than the Word of God, then your priorities are terribly mis aligned” -I don’t recall saying this!

        This is my ALL time favourite quote from Jed

        ” I have not and I will not do anything to operate against his interest either before his face or behind his back”

        XD XD XD XD XD XD XD

        So when you said I was full of wickedness, deceit and being divisive, you were actually describing yourself to a T. I accused Williams of being guilty of projection, and you indeed suffer from the same known psychological condition!

        You are WICKED, your DIVISIVE and you are DECEPTIVE.

        And Mayhem , I already knew because Jed said you were a fence-sitter when you first arrived on BIN, so in the past you weren’t a know-it-all were you? Lol XD

        Jon.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          SNAKE,

          It has been many years since I’ve been so utterly betrayed by anyone. You are an enemy of mine from this day forward. No one would tag themselves with the serpent as you have done, and not be an actual snake themselves. You slither. You are vile. You are treacherous.

          It is a fact that I wrote the things listed above by this vile serpent. But these quotes, each of them taken completely out of context by a malicious snake, were part and parcel of a conversation with many questions and answers. This serpent was asking me questions in a rapid succession, and I was laboring just to keep up, answering as they came.

          When the topic of BAD DOCTRINE was tabled for conversation, I began to make an argument that Gunther had failed to rightly discern authentic Scripture from inauthentic documents, i.e., apocryphal and mythological texts. Gunther takes them all as Scripture. I have discussed this with Gunther both here on the live board and in PRIVATE email correspondence. This was done by me NOT in an effort to harpoon a brother, but because the SNAKE kept repeatedly holding up Gunther as an example of what he thought he should be doing as a student (perish the thought) of the Word. SERPENT asked MANY questions about Gunther, and kept up with the questioning, each time placing Gunther front and center in our conversation. The SERPENT did that. I did not.

          “Gunther is a mess, Jon”

          And he is. He is a man with no control over his passions and his hatred. He is a man who fails to rightly divide the word of truth. I should have been much more careful with my words and I regret calling Gunther a mess – because this is something I had never said directly to Gunther. I tried to make it a point not to say ANYTHING to the SNAKE that I had not previously said to Gunther, which might be taken in a negative light. Gunther is a passionate and angry man who thinks he can mix the teachings of the Apostle Paul with the teachings of murder.

          “Gunther is a man highly tainted with mingled seed”

          Mingled seed in this case is the mixing in of all non-scriptural texts – the gospel of Thomas, for example. Gnostic doctrine is not authentic doctrine. Pseudepigraphical texts are not Scripture. We are expected to know this. I have had this very conversation with Gunther in the past, saying the same things to him then as this treacherous serpent has betrayed my saying now.

          And THIS:

          “I did not wish to smother him with rebuke and negative critique…”

          And WHY was THAT, SERPENT? And WHAT was this in RESPONSE TO? This was in response to the SERPENT’S complaint that I ‘permit’ Gunther to advocate for reincarnation without argument, but I took the SERPENT to task for his advocacy of the same. The SNAKE whined that it wasn’t fair that I should LET Gunther speak of such things unchallenged, when I had just forcefully resisted the notion to the SNAKE. My answer to the SERPENT was that since I had previously given Gunther such negative reviews and had also thought to correct him (forcefully) on his hatred and malice, I did not wish for ALL of my communication with Gunther to be me constantly chastising or nagging him. I also explained my reasons for this.

          “It was about the time of our last correspondence that he began complaining about not being permitted to use email. Do you see what I see?”

          Self-explanatory. Gunther stopped answering email at the time of my rebuking his treatment of another commenter at this site. I knew then as I know now that Gunther was making excuses – supposedly not being able to use email because of hornets. That was a lie, which he has subsequently admitted.

          “If keeping friends is more important to you than the Word of God, then your priorities are terribly mis aligned”

          Was in response the lying SNAKE whining about losing his friends at the BIN and had nothing whatsoever to do with Gunther.

          “I have not and I will not do anything to operate against his interest either before his face or behind his back”

          This was in response to the SNAKE’S charge against me that I had shared the same material Gunther himself had posted to the live board. The SNAKE said I was trying to sell DIRT on Gunther behind his back by telling the SNAKE Gunther’s name. I responded that Gunther had previously sold this very dirt on himself, and that my sharing it was not a betrayal of CONFIDENCE in the slightest.

          WHERE IS ALL OF THE GOOD I SAID ABOUT GUNTHER, SNAKE? WHERE ARE ALL OF THE GOOD REPORTS? WHERE ARE THE BALANCED SCALES, YOU MALICIOUS FRAUD? Did you share any of THAT with anyone? With Gunther? With this board?

          Vile. Disgusting. You conduct yourself like a child. You are a child. You are a venomous adolescent snake.

        • Mayhem

          Yes, cobra, when I came to the bin, 5 or more years ago, I thought the Bible was a mildly interesting historical account that was crammed full of the manipulations of men, self contradictory and incompatible with science. I have asked myself all the questions you are now asking, there is nothing new under the sun, and the answers led me to the undeniable. God exists and His word is Truth.

          Yes, cobra, it was Beef Supreme who set me to rights. I gave you the quote. I was challenged to revisit the history and legitimacy of the “jews”. Once I had seen through shoah business I was left feeling foolish but my need to know was undiminished.

          I’m rolling a tablet for a day or two and I’m largely hamstrung because of it but going forward I’d appreciate the opportunity to walk through, with you, any or all of what you consider to be problematic Bible passages.

          Like I said; I can pile the lies of men so deep that initially you’ll feel like you’re downing but there is a way through, I promise, and Jesus is that way.

          Did you catch that, cobra? The holocaust is a lie and the people occupying the nation state of Israel are not the legitimate inheritors of God’s promise.

    • Crow (hex)

      It was God’s will that me and Gunther were given the task of destroying Beefs ( Jeds ) huge ego, and thus make him a more humble and pure person. So I ask you are you going to pray to God and ask him to forgive us, for performing this important task, or are you going to be bitter and resentful about it. Beef is doing a very important Job on this site, but he needs to drop this huge ego of his. He could show his love to God by dropping the Supreme bit from his name.

      I like the name Beef the wiser or Refined Beef sounds good.

      Daniel 11.35 ” And some of those who have insight shall stumble, to refine them, and to cleanse them, and to make them white, until the time of the end, for it is still for an appointed time.”

      God Bless everyone on BIN.

      Jon and Gunther xxx.

      • Mayhem

        Someone desperately needs to do a word study on “love” and “meek” as defined by the Bible.

        It is not ego that allows Beef and myself to continue, cobra, but commandment. 1st Peter 3:15.

    • Crow (hex)

      Jed. It’s no good knowing the Word and it’s meaning if you can’t apply the Word in your everyday life.

      If you can’t forgive me then you are breaking one of God’s Laws. We were only doing God’s Will. Get over it!

      You have a huge ego and show pride and anger. You are commiting some deadly sins in God’s eyes. Why can’t you repent these sins. You won’t be saved if you refuse to change!
      Have I really hurt your feelings Jed? Stop feeling sorry for yourself and understand we were doing this for your own good.

      Look. I love and forgive you. So be a man and do likewise.

      Jon and Gunther xxx

      • BEEF SUPREME

        Listen to me, you vile worm. You lied to me when you OFFERED your assurances that discretion is something you do not violate. You lied to Gunther when you violated that promise to me, when you took Gunther bits of my words to show him, to make me look like his enemy. You lied to the board here when you did the same. You are a thief and a liar. You have stolen trust and you have used deception to work your wiles. You do not behave like a man, but rather like a lawless and nasty little boy.

        And now do you speak for Gunther? Aren’t you LYING now yet again by pretending you have the RIGHT to speak for Gunther?

        Don’t you DARE stick a knife under my ribs and then come whining to me about forgiveness. You want forgiveness? THEN ASK FOR IT ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF GOD. That’s right, Snake. I’ll forgive you if and when you comply with the Word. Don’t behave like an enemy of the Word and then try to hide behind the Word. You are a divider and a scoundrel. I have nothing but disgust and disdain for you at the moment. Later on when I am more comfortable doing so, I will bless you and pray for you, even though you are my enemy. But if you want forgiveness, then go and learn how to ask for it accordingly. Until then, you can piss off.

        My ego? You know nothing. You have not the slightest idea about my past with Gunther and you have not the slightest idea about my screen name. You disgusting fraud. If you knew ANYTHING as you ought to, you would at once cease being you and immediately become someone other. Someone better.

        Not my worst enemies, SNAKE. I would never degrade myself as you have done, by being such a treacherous demon – not even to spite my WORST enemies. There is something called honor, SNAKE. You have nothing of it. You defile yourself in your effort to slander me. You have enraged the passions of a passionate man in Gunther. He doesn’t deserve you poison, fraud. But he’s smart enough to see through your stupid poison. He’s smarter than you, SNAKE. He’s angry right now. And he should be. But you’re trying to seduce him because you think he’s stupid. He’s going to right himself in a hurry, you vile cur. Like I said… he’s smarter than you. By a mile.

        Take your lies about love and stuff them. You wouldn’t know what love was if He had His FOOT on your head. And you won’t. Now get behind me.

        • Crow (hex)

          You really don’t know Gunther do you Jed. But you’re right he much smarter than yourself. Blame me all you like but you’re clueless, and have no idea what Gunther thinks. So what you said couldn’t be further than the truth. But if you want to delude yourself that’s okay. Blame me, thats okay if it makes you feel better.

          You’re finding it really hard to get over this betrayal lol, aren’t you Jed. Tthe penny might drop in a couple of months. Until then have fun with your paranoia. Look we both love you we just felt you needed to be brought down a peg or two , all for your own good, and you needed your a×se kicked. It’ll do you a world of goodin the long run, and we’ll all have a laugh about it in the future. Chill out man! This is good advice I’m giving you here, take it on board, and you’ll be a much better person. That’s all we want for you.

          • Crow (hex)

            And Beef. Gunther didn’t like the way you were treating me and he had seen you do the same thing to others.He makes his own mind up on things. But if you want to believe I manipulated him then that’s okay. You do seem very paranoid Beef. Is that because you live on an isolated ranch?

            • BEEF SUPREME

              “Look we both love you we just felt you needed to be brought down a peg or two, all for your own good, and you needed your a×se kicked.”

              So you said, Snake. And keep saying. Your repeating a thing must make you think it will be an easier pill to swallow for myself and anyone reading this. Go back to manipulation school, little boy. Your charms and incantations are useless here.

              “That’s all we want for you.”

              Not even your outrageous arrogance is amusing to me anymore. You know what’s best do you? Keep talking Snake. You do yourself no favors. Just wait and see.

              “Gunther didn’t like the way you were treating me and he had seen you do the same thing to others.”

              Good thing you’re here to defend everyone from me, Serpent. What ever would people do without your protecting them? If Gunther had a problem with me, he is DUTY BOUND to come to me as a brother and consult me about it. Was I in need of correction, then Gunther was DUTY BOUND to come to me and correct me. Shoving a knife in my guts, the way you did, is the way SATAN, your father, does things, Snake. It’s just the way YOU do things.

              “…But if you want to believe I manipulated him then that’s okay.”

              You did manipulate him. You showed him evidence which was tainted by your agenda. When you first accused me of treating Gunther unfairly, what did I say to you? First I corrected your misconception, which you agreed at the time HAD been a misconception, and then I said: MY BROTHER NEEDS NO DEFENSE FROM ME. I AM IN NO WAY ASHAMED OF MY BROTHER GUNTHER.

              I tell stories about Gunther to my friends and family. I have even BRAGGED about him.

              Did you share any of that with him, SNAKE?

              “…you live on an isolated ranch?”

              You’re about out of ammunition with which to betray me, SERPENT. What will you do then?

            • Mayhem

              The guy who thinks he’s being spied on, not to mention ganged up on,  accuses others of paranoia. That’s pretty rich.

              You’ve kicked nothing, cobra, and all you have done is show how you wasted a small fortune on an education you could have gotten for free at your local library.

              I gave you a couple of words to look up and if I could just add one more to your homework. “Anger” particularly with a righteous bend and according to Scripture.

              You’ll need to run to keep up, son, and the first thing you’ll see is the dust from my heels. 

              Oh and tell Dicky to speak for himself because it’s obvious that he’s feeding you those bible passages. Cowards.

            • Mayhem

              And don’t think that anyone has missed where you try to make it beef’s fault that you’ve had to splatter your private and confidential conversation all over this public forum,

            • Mayhem

              Obsequious fawning, cobra, like for example…

              /prophecy/2015/11/pontius-pilots-letter-to-ceasar-on-the-execution-of-christ-the-anointed-one-the-year-1519-was-very-extraordinary-a-dawning-of-a-new-age-pisces-2474702.html

              … where Richard/Capt-Spaulding said he loved Beef more than life itself.

            • Crow (hex)

              Lol. Mayhem. Beef gave me one of those quotes.

            • Crow (hex)

              Omw Mayhem. You really do think you know it all! What a BOORISH chap you are, so uneducated yet so educated at the same time- you’re an oxymoron, a complete paradox!

              What tablets you on. Lithium by any chance.?

            • Crow (hex)

              Mayhem. People do fall out of love. Are you aware of this fact? How many of those Lithium tablets have you taken Sister? You’re starting to talk total nonsense!

            • Mayhem

              Your thoughts, cobra, would have more merit if you knew Scripture. You’re defining love from man’s perspective and you haven’t a clue what the word means.

              But regardless, cobra, what does your posturing have to do with proving millions and billions of years? Will you address the topic or are you just going to pout and whine like a pre-schooler?

              I have made my stand behind credible evidence for a young earth and you have neither refuted that evidence nor have you presented an alternative.

              I’ll keep checking this thread on the off chance you grow up and get a pair but what I won’t do is circular squabbling. I leave that sort of stupidity to those with the superior knowledge.

        • Crow (hex)

          Lol. Just read your post for the first time . You’re deranged Beef, and I’m glad you’re mad, it cheers me up no end. Once you accused me of deceit all bets were off fella, and it was you that asked me for discretion . But when you showed your 2 faces and accused me of something I knew you were guilty of, , then you left me no choice in the matter.

          Stop pretending to be a nice person, me and Gunther know this is not true. You have an enormous ego demonstrated by your name and when you said Gunther used to serve at the altar of Beef- case closed.

          You have an extremely short temper evidenced by your last 2 hysterical and demented comments- case closed.

          You are full of pride and cannot accept rejection , this is why you are blaming me for Gunthers rejection of you. Me and Gunther have a right old laugh over this very fact . He’s thanked me for itIif you must know.

          I’m not a worm Jed I’m a snake and I’ve just had you for dinner. Very tasty you were too!

          We just wanted to shrink that big head of yours but you’re still in a paranoid state of denial. The penny will drop sometime, and you may change. Enjoy your weekend Beef, and try not to think about it too much. Me and Gunther did the Art of War on you, , but you won’t be the last.

          But it wont be on this site. Although I might stick around on this thread because I’m having so much fun. Whilst your comments have absolutely no effect on me, I can see that mine are doing immence damage to you. Vile worm BWHAHAHA. You’ll thank me for this in the future, and then we can have a good laugh about it

          • BEEF SUPREME

            “Stop pretending to be a nice person, me and Gunther know this is not true.”

            Is it me pretending to be nice when I call you a CUR and a VILE WORM?

            “You have an enormous ego demonstrated by your name and when you said Gunther used to serve at the altar of Beef- case closed.”

            You know NOTHING. Work hard, and you’ll get to know even less. I gave you homework to do on that point. Now go do it.

            “You have an extremely short temper evidenced by your last 2 hysterical and demented comments- case closed.”

            If only you had been in my presence when I wrote what I wrote. You’d be singing a different tune entirely. But my Father is good and He put an ocean between us.

            “You are full of pride and cannot accept rejection, this is why you are blaming me for Gunthers rejection of you. Me and Gunther have a right old laugh over this very fact.”

            Gunther broke the rules. He breaks them still for each second he accepts your worthless testimony against me without confirming your contemptible stench via a second or even a third witness. You don’t know the rules and you never will, so you’ll have to be given leeway on that account in the day of your judgment. You’re far too thick-headed and self-infatuated to grasp certain concepts. Bottoms up, friend.

            “He’s thanked me for itIif you must know.”

            He’ll thank you again later – only not for the reasons you presently imagine.

            “I’m not a worm…”

            Another lie.

            “But it wont be on this site. Although I might stick around on this thread because I’m having so much fun.”

            Good. Everything you say can and will be used against you in The Court of Law.

            “Whilst your comments have absolutely no effect on me…”

            Mmmm hmmm. You know as well as I do who says crap like that. Child.

            “…we can have a good laugh about it…”

            There is not much laughter in your future friend. But do please enjoy now what laughter you can. And I mean that most sincerely.

            • Crow (hex)

              Beef ” You know NOTHING” ” You’re far too thick- headed”

              Hmmm. That’s not what you said to me during the Lifels debate. I could put your actual words if you like..

              So what you said there shows you’re LYING to save face.

            • Crow (hex)

              Beef to Cobra

              ” I’ve pitched a few myself, but that was the most thorough and impressive shut- out, I have seen pitched in the BINs Cobra, and one of the most impressive I’ve seen anywhere”
              ” if you know half as much about Scripture as you do about physics and the cosmos, you’ll be one hell of a theological debater, mangling your opponents with an enthusiasm hopefully equal to the performance you just conducted”

              Your own words PROVE that you are a LIAR.

              If you want to win an argument Beef, then at least try and tell the truth.

            • Crow (hex)

              ” There is not much laughter in your future friend”

              So now you can tell the future Beef. So you believe yourself to be a PROPHET as well. This about sums up your huge ego.

            • Crow (hex)

              So I’m far too thick- headed to grasp certain concepts. Again not what you said during the lifels debate..

              And that about sums you up. You’re extremely IMPATIENT. This is what I discovered during our conversations that you have no patience for those seeking to know the Word and who are beginners.

              You act like a scolding father, and this is why we started to clash. Obviously, the Clucker and Mayhem will probably pipe in and say this is not the case.

              But you are impatient Beef. It was the first thing I noticed when reading your comments for the first time.

              If you want to defend the Word of God then show more humility and patience towards others.

              You started off by accusing me of lying in regards to whether dogs have souls, and I have shown that you did indeed imply this.

              So you started your attack with a LIE and in your Last comment you have LIED further. I’ve presented the proof using your own quotes.

              So Beef you have the SNAKE in you. I’ve quoted you where you have admitted deception on the BINs. So you have the SERPENT in you.

              From what you say about Gunther both here and during our conversations, I do not believe for one minute that you have sung his praises to your friends. Again you are speaking with the words of the SERPENT.

              You asked me for discretion after you had you had deliberately set out to divide me an Gunther. You began this by giving me his full name knowing I would look it up on the web. You did this with MALICE so why should I give you discretion on this matter.

              Beef. It is you who has the SERPENT in you. Obviously that statement where you thanked God for putting an ocean between us, shows that you wanted to wring my neck. Did SATAN make you think this?

              You say that you haven’t been betrayed like this for years. Get over it. I simply played you at your own game. And so your pride has taken a tumble, but that will be good for you in the long run.

              I now await your SISTERS to come to your defence with their tunnel vision once more.

              But there is no getting away from the fact that you are a DECEIVER and a LIAR and that you have a serpent in you. I now await your reply, after youhave spoken to your friend SATAN of course. I bet he has plenty of suggestions for you.!

            • BEEF SUPREME

              “So I’m far too thick- headed to grasp certain concepts. Again not what you said during the lifels debate…”

              Wow. That really bothers you, doesn’t it? How easy. Your intellect is nothing, Worm. You are clever enough to batter a man like LifeIs who knows somewhat about cosmology. I said so then and I say so now. Where is lying? Where is contradiction? Where is lack of consistency? You are clever. So is your father. But you are extraordinarily thick-headed. You are obtuse, friend. You are so dim of light and dull of mind that you cannot see how you heap scorn upon your own head when you resort to your tactics of fraud, slander and betrayal.

              “…you have no patience for those seeking to know the Word and who are beginners.”

              I can point to a list of men and women who would testify against your claim – and Mayhem and Clucker are not on the list. I have patience for those who come to the Word with honesty and sincere intentions. You came to the Word with accusation and with an agenda. You demean and accuse the Word on this very website, all the while pretending to be interested in learning from the Word. You are found out, Worm. You are exposed. You have exposed yourself. No one can ever say you didn’t warn us first, by waltzing in here calling yourself a snake.

              “If you want to defend the Word of God then show more humility and patience towards others.”

              Stuff your advice, Worm. You have nothing to say to me. I do not heed the advice of that which slithers.

              “You started off by accusing me of lying in regards to whether dogs have souls, and I have shown that you did indeed imply this.”

              No, fraud. You said right here on THIS BOARD that I SAID dogs do not have souls. You lied. I did not say. Every time you post a comment about me, you misrepresent what I have said. You have done this consistently from the very beginning. THAT is something for which I have very little patience. Your mischaracterizations of my words continued apace, and they grew more extreme. I have no tolerance for your brand of dissimulation and I have no tolerance for your legerdemain.

              “So you started your attack with a LIE and in your Last comment you have LIED further. I’ve presented the proof using your own quotes.”

              You’ve presented nothing, save for yet further demonstration that you have no earthly idea what words actually mean.

              “I’ve quoted you where you have admitted deception on the BINs. So you have the SERPENT in you.”

              You didn’t quote me. You stole from me. I gave you something in confidence, which you vowed not to betray, and then you betrayed it. You tried to out me as a deceiver? Too bad I’ve already shared my sin with the entire website. You’re late, Worm. I’ve already made my case to the men and women who actually matter.

              “From what you say about Gunther both here and during our conversations, I do not believe for one minute that you have sung his praises to your friends.”

              What you think is utterly meaningless to me, save for the fact it is actually important to me at this point that you DO doubt me. I want you to doubt me and I want to think I lie. Standing where you stand, and considering what you are, it is good for me that you see me as you do. What my MASTER thinks about me ONLY is what is important. And He knows what I have said and what I have not. I have said MANY things about Gunther in my private conversations. Most of what I said was good and complimentary. I said I bragged about him. And so I have. I have also said things which were not complimentary. Gunther is not a perfect man. Far from it.

              “You asked me for discretion after you had you had deliberately set out to divide me an Gunther.”

              False. I asked you for discretion after you had falsely accused my motives in telling you his name. Then as I proceeded to explain further the details, I did ask you for discretion. This I asked because I did not want you plastering anything I shared with you all over the live board. But now you’ve plastered everything you think you can use against me. More than that, you will have to concoct. I wasn’t asking you for discretion in hiding my statements from Gunther. I knew you were pissing into his ear just as fast as you could when I was writing to you. But I never thought you would actually post what you have to the live board. It never occurred to me you would defile yourself so. That surprised me. You whining to Gunther did not.

              “You began this by giving me his full name knowing I would look it up on the web. You did this with MALICE so why should I give you discretion on this matter.”

              That is what you accused me of. And then I explained to you that is was not so, and why. And YOU THEN AGREED that your understanding had been in error. You agreed because I made myself plain to you. Now you reverse yourself, yet again, merely because it is convenient for you to do so. One of us is being consistent, Worm. One of us has been consistent from the beginning. It sure as hell isn’t you.

              “Obviously that statement where you thanked God for putting an ocean between us, shows that you wanted to wring my neck.”

              It is true. Your physical well-being would have been in grave danger had you been within my reach in the moment when I discovered your treachery. I would almost certainly have done your body a great deal of harm. I may even have done worse than that. This is a fact. It is not a boast. It is a confession. Do I claim to be a perfect man, remade in the image of my Messiah? I’ll let you answer that question, to your own judgment.

              “Did SATAN make you think this?”

              My own uncorrected beast-nature made me want to inflict harm on you. I therefore thank my Father for His great kindness in preventing me from making that mistake. You see Worm, He provides for His children, even His unruly children. Today I have regained my composure sufficiently, that I would no longer damage your carcass if I was given the chance. All it takes is a little time. My Father gave me that time to help me. And now, knowing full well who you are and how you conduct your affairs, there is nothing you can do to inspire such wrath within me, ever again, because I will never be foolish enough to trust you, ever again. Not with anything. And Worm, even if I forgive you, I will never trust you again, no matter what. That’s not called holding a grudge; it is called being prudent.

              “You say that you haven’t been betrayed like this for years. Get over it.”

              The point you labor to miss, Worm, is that even the many enemies I have dealt with over the years, have not stooped so low as you have done. The word is SHAME. Clucker was absolutely right about that. You can never win a debate or a conflict by resorting to such treacherous tactics. The ends do NOT justify the means. The enemies I am used to dealing with have FAR MORE honor and are deserving of FAR GREATER respect as men, than you. You are not a man. You are a worm.

              “I simply played you at your own game. And so your pride has taken a tumble, but that will be good for you in the long run.”

              You aimed to do me harm. But the harm has returned to roost on your own head. You have cost me nothing, Worm. Gunther is angry at me. Brothers sometimes get angry at each other. Brothers sometimes even beat the blood out of each other. But then what? Gunther will forgive me when I ask him to. In a few weeks, I will compose my testimony to Gunther and will present it for his consideration. I will then ask for his forgiveness as his brother in Messiah. I have trespassed against my brother, because I was not at all careful in the things I said about him behind his back. I thought to myself at the time – it is OK, because these are the things I would say to him if he were standing right here. But it was not OK. I was talking, good and bad, about my brother to a SNAKE. And I should have been far more cautious and I should have been more prudent. I failed to be either. Now my brother is aggrieved and it is my fault. I have aggrieved my own brother. I did that myself, Worm. You have done nothing to me and in fact can do nothing to me. All you can do is slither.

              “But there is no getting away from the fact that you are a DECEIVER and a LIAR and that you have a serpent in you.”

              Lucky for me Worm, you are not my judge. My Judge is HE WHO IS. And He will judge me. All you will do is spin in the dust.

            • Crow (hex)

              It’ll take a long time to respond to your diatribe, but I will I’ll just take my time as I have better things to do.

              But my overall conclusions are some conciliatory points mixed with a lot of deluded inaccuracies.

              You implied that dogs do not have souls, it doesn’t take a genius to work that out, so I was completely justified in saying what I did. Not guilty!

              Of course you wanted to tear me to pieces, the truth hurts and you were hurting badly. You don’t like it that I said satan was whispering in your ear but as I said you don’t like hearing the truth.

              As for tearing me to pieces, that is a battle you would have lost as well!

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Here we have yet another classic example of the quality of your ‘honesty.’ It is THIS to which you have objected and it is THIS to which you have falsely ascribed my saying ‘dogs have no souls.’ I never said anything of the kind, and I never even addressed your question because I wasn’t interested in addressing it except to say what I DID say, which I have posted below in its entirety, verbatim and unedited.

              YOU WROTE:

              “The soul only enters the flesh and bones when it has evolved to a compatible level. I believe all mammals have souls- does Scripture agree with this?”

              Here is the full extent of my response:

              You are confusing the scriptural terms ‘spirit’ and ‘soul.’

              Now then, liar… would you care to continue your argument that I have said or even implied ANYTHING of the sort you fatuously imagine? The only reason this issue is worth my time to address now, is because it is but another perfectly clear example of your inability to recount ANYTHING I have said to you at any time, without grossly misrepresenting what I did say in actual fact.

            • Crow (hex)

              You seem to have a lot of anger in you Beef, I hope you learn to deal with this, as it’s not good for your blood pressure, and it could cause a heart attack if you’re not careful.

              Snake, serpent, worm. What have you got against these creatures, that you have to disparage them so. ? I love all Gods creatures , although I do understand that some have to be controlled humanely.

              I’ve also noticed that yo use a lot of expletives when you’re angry. Some of the readers of BINs maybe quite young so you’re not setting a good example to them. Considering your age you should know better.

              It’s like I said before you might know Scripture, ut you seem unable to apply it to your daily life. And yet you seem to be under the false impression that God will save you because you’re an expert on the word.
              You have a lot of growing up to do with this regards!

              No, none of us are perfect, but you still seem to be sinning quite a lot considering your age and strong Faith.

              I’m fully expecting a expletive laden, anger ridden, animal denigrating, reply from you indue course. I’ve got some great tips on how you can control and largely eliminate this anger issue of yours. If you’re interested.

              I will get on to the conciliatory points you made with regards to Gunther. Whether he comes back to rejoin the Sisterhood is up to him. I’ve said this to him. Just try and be a bit more open to what he has to say, and don’t chide him and scold him and be open to what he has to say, and I’m sure you’ll get along just fine. Like you said Gunther is very intelligent and he is also compassionate and he is totally correct when he says you are stuck on the first onion layer, when it comes to the Word of God.

              Being so stuck in your ways like Mayhem causes you to belittle God’s true supremness. Your view point is confined to an anthropomorphic small world view. Gunther likes to think bigger and for this he should be applauded. If you are willing to listen to this extremely intelligent guy, and discuss and take on board what he has to say, then I’m positive he will sing your praises once more, and possibly rejoin this Sisterhood of yours. Try and reflect on what I’m telling you and stop being such an intransigent, fool. You could start by showing some humility, stop using the name Supreme, and respect other peoples beliefs abit more.

            • Crow (hex)

              You said I’m confusing the terms ‘ spirit’ and ‘souls’ thus implying animals have spirits and no souls.

              So I’ll ask you directly do dogs have souls? according to Scripture.

              Simple yes or no answer is sufficient.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              “…a heart attack if you’re not careful.”

              I’m titillated that you’ve got my well-being in mind. (That was sarcasm, Worm. Lest you think to misrepresent my meaning yet again. The thick-headed often need to be addressed in painfully clear terms. So be it.)

              “Considering your age you should know better…”

              Is that you running low on substance, Worm? Look, over there! A leaf blowing in the wind!

              “…you still seem to be sinning quite a lot considering your age and strong Faith.”

              Said the treacherous, trust-violating, vow-breaking little child.

              “Just try and be a bit more open to what he has to say…”

              I’ve already told you to choke on your advice, Worm. I know you think you matter. You don’t. Not in the slightest. Stuff. Your. Advice.

              “…he is totally correct when he says you are stuck on the first onion layer, when it comes to the Word of God.”

              This too I am sure he said to you in confidence. You violate trust with impunity. You are vile.

              “Try and reflect on what I’m telling you…”

              Pound sand little worm.

              “So I’ll ask you directly do dogs have souls? according to Scripture. Simple yes or no answer is sufficient.”

              Here is my answer to you, and it’s the only answer you’ll be getting from me. Pound sand. I make myself available to answer questions for sincere and honest seekers. I revile and hold in contempt foul villains like you who have pissed on my gesture of time and effort freely given. I look back over the emails I composed for you, the sheer volume of the time I spent answering your questions, and it makes me sick. I want that time back, you thief. Give me back my time and I will consent to be questioned by you further. Failing that? Well, you’ve already been told and told again.

              At one point I told you I had the stamina to go the distance with you, if only you would settle down and find your stride. I intend to make good on that promise, Worm. I will go the distance with you here, albeit in disgust. Your charges have been answered. Moreover, you’ve been most adept at putting yourself on display. I thank you for that. I thank you for engaging me here the way you have and for showing Gunther and everyone else reading this exchange what truly animates you. Most sincerely I thank you for that. If you were even half as smart as you think you are, you would know exactly what that means. Even now, you know in part. You know what you look like to the men reading this material. And they know you, Worm. You are known.

            • Crow (hex)

              Oh deary me.!

              Cobra 1 Beef Supreme 0

              Actually, I don’t care what the BINs think of me, but you care!

              You want to speak with me all year on this thread do you?

              Everyday having to think of me, every day me being in your mind. Eventually, I’ll even be in your dreams, do you want that?
              You’ll have to ignore me at some point just for peace of mind.
              But if you want to carry on and on, that will be great. I do love and respect you tbh, and I forgive all your cruel words. But since, I don’t care what BIN thinks then I am not bothered by any insults thrown in my direction.

              You won’t answer my simple question because you don’t like to lose face. I understand, you don’t want to admit you were wrong.

              You keep dissing the poor old worm, what is it that you don’t like about this poor misunderstood creature. If it wasn’t for worms, you wouldn’t have top soil and you wouldn’t be able to grow anything. Over In England during flooding on the south east, all the worms in the fields died because they couldn’t breath- poor little things! and the farmers had to import tons of worms to put back into the soil. I’m a human Jed, so could you keep your insults to a more human nature please.

              I only briefly read your last comment, because it was so long. I’ve noticed
              you always write really long comments to reply, but you never seem to answer the questions I ask you.

              However, you do seem to be taking some things on board, and I did notice you didn’t use any expletives. But I’ll have to recheck just to see.

              Now, about this anger issue of yours. Let me help you here. For this to work though you have to have a good imagination. Do you have a good imagination Beef.?

              Now imagine you have this giant catapult. What you do if you’re thinking of someone too much is simply put that person in the catapult and fire them right out of your mind. It’s quite easy to do and I’m sure you’ll get the hang of it.

              I’ll keep giving you these great tips for as long as you remain on this thread. So the longer you stay the more you’ll learn.

              If you listen to what I say and put it into practice then we will be able to refine you just like in that Daniel quote I gave. This will be great fun. Maybe after a while you may soften and change your opinion of me, but it doesn’t matter if you don’t.

              Anyway don’t you agree this is much better than emailing, and others can join in on the fun if they like.

              Speak to you soon

              Jon xxx

            • Mayhem

              Do you mean cruel and insulting profanity like this,..

              “Fk off you jerk” & “you fool”

              … cobra, (your words) and what’s with the condescension. You were told to go pound sand, get to it. 

            • BEEF SUPREME

              “You won’t answer my simple question because you don’t like to lose face. I understand, you don’t want to admit you were wrong.”

              If profanity wasn’t censored from this website, I would call you a c___.

              “…you never seem to answer the questions I ask you.”

              You mean like the forty emails I sent you, answering your questions? Nothing ever got answered, eh? You know the more you talk, the more you lie, Worm.

              “However, you do seem to be taking some things on board, and I did notice you didn’t use any expletives. But I’ll have to recheck just to see.”

              Expletives. You mean like c___? I have to really, really mean it in order to call a man that word. Be a good little boy and fill in the blank for me, sweetheart. And Worm, in over six years on this site, you’re the first person I’ve ever addressed with that word.

              “Maybe after a while you may soften and change your opinion of me…”

              My opinion of you will never soften, Worm. There isn’t a man alive at the moment who holds a lower place in my estimation than you do. Not a one, Worm. That’s because for the most part even criminal low-lives and self-serving psychopaths have some code. You are bankrupt. Utterly devoid of code. Not until you’ve been smashed flat in the winepress or until you renounce your wormish ways will my views about you change. You are forever marked with the stain of dishonor. You are a disgrace.

              And since you read the same post by Gunther that I did, I expect your work here is about finished. Your efforts have failed, Worm. Just as I told you they would. But since you’re the one keeping score in your own debilitated and insignificant little mind, score it however you like. Your connection with reality is so shattered and peeled, you might as well keep the fantasy complete.

              Now will there be anything else?

            • Crow (hex)

              I’m going to reply to future comments at the bottom.

              Mayhem. One abbreviated swear word, expletive laden. Not the same.
              However, I’ll try not to again. Beef on the other hand couldn’t care less. In England this s considered the worst swear word a person can use.

              Beef you are hypersensitive, you exaggerate your grievance. You do not put into action the Law. You have serious anger issues, you are way too proud, your ego is ginormous, you act like your Divine. You’re not Supreme you’re a total wimp, a cry baby, so so sensitive. Why don’t youcall your mummy so she can comfort you. Look petal, I did this for your own good. Wipe away those tears now. Its not good to have temper tantrums, you can’t always have it your own way. Realise now baby, it’s for the best.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              And I thank you for your efforts, you deplorable vermin.

              But know this: any good that comes from you to others, comes DESPITE you.

              I am glad, however, to see that knowing you lack both honor and moral fiber is bothersome to you. That means you still have a chance to come out of this life in one piece. Perhaps you’ll take your own advice and learn something from this exchange. Your motives have been laid bare, as has your putrefied interior. Why don’t you study them while they are thus exposed.

              Take your own advice, or take your rightful place among the hypocrites.

              Now then — this issue has resolved amicably between me and Gunther. That’s what I wanted. Even more than that is what I gained — with you exposing yourself as completely as you have. Another plus for me.

              Perhaps the next fellow you steal confidentiality from will take a less grim view of you than I have. Perhaps I am over-sensitive, Worm. Or perhaps I just abhor treachery. Perhaps the worst kind of snake there is, is one who ingratiates himself into the trust of another, all the while racing to betray that trust just as fast as he can. Be that as it may, my work here is finished. Thus, you may now resume your given occupation of deceiving and betraying elsewhere. I’m sure you are way behind in your work. Having gained what I had hoped for and more than I wanted, I will leave you to your own vacant chamber. The last word is yours. Make it a good one. And enjoy the echo.

            • Mayhem

              So what about the other 5 or 6 times you’ve employed profanity, cobra?

          • Crow (hex)

            Lol. ” Good. Everything you say can and will be used against you in the Court of Law”

            So you really do believe you’re Divine. So that’s why you’re using Supreme in your title. XD

            • Mayhem

              You were seen, cobra, from a long way off, you have been tested in accordance with the Word and you have been found wanting.

            • Crow (hex)

              You think you’re Divine as well Mayhem! Lol. Omw this site has about 5or6 Messiahs, a couple of antichrists, prophets, and now men of Divinity.

              All we need now is the 2 witnesses and we can have our own on-site apocalypse. Lol. Oh I forgot about all the watchers like Lisa and Lyn as well. But Mayhem, you’re really missing the point here!

              Let me explain, it’s not how you behave on here that counts, it’s how you conduct yourself in your everyday life that counts. This site is just a game that God allows us to play. And what you’re seeing is only a small part of that game.

              What you people of the Word seem to be missing, is that God doesn’t give too hoots whether you are an expert in the Book. It’s how you behave in your everyday life that counts.

              Take Catholics for example, they can commit any sin they like, thenfeel as long as they confess those sins in Church then everything will be hunky-dorey. And they can continue to commit sins. The Talmudic Jews are the same. In fact they can commit terrible acts against Children and they think God is going to forgive them.

              It’s like you Mayhem, you justify being a male chauvinistic pig, because Timothy says it’s okay. This is the main problem with the Word. It was written at a time when it was the norm to think Women’s opinions didn’t count. But weve moved on Mayhem, we’re living in the 21st century now.

              By being such an anal retard with your understanding of the Word, it’s made you become stupid. God doesn’t like uselessness, but this is exactly what you have become.

              You will be destroyed for being stupid and useless, but you’ve become too stupid to understand this. Now, if you’re suffering from dementia, then I’m sure God will take this into consideration. Have you been tested for this btw? It could well explain why you have become so stupid. Of course, tablets can course a type of tempory senile condition, but I think you should speak to your doctor about this, as I’m starting to become worried for you.Considering how dense you have become this may be thecause.

              You might just be stupid though, in that case, there’s not a lot that can be done.

              I did notice that troll baiting of Richard, that you did below, so maybe you took some of the points that I made in the comment about baiting. If that is the case then well done!

            • Mayhem

              “Divine” but how could that be? I’m second, nothing. I came from dust and to dust I shall return.

              1) – according to Psalm 139:3-4 everything counts.

              2) – according to you the authors of the Bible were chauvinists.

              3) – according to God we are to study to show ourselves approved.

              4) – do you mean stupid like how I’m the only one who has put up an argument which you point blank refuse to address or provide any sort of alternative to?

              5) – what’s with the medical advice? Your superior knowledge has lost me there.

              Anyway catch you later, cobra, and since you’re going to be here all year you should have no trouble proving millions and billions of years.

            • Crow (hex)

              Then people accepted it , today we know better. Like slavery, before it was accepted, today we know better. Since you are alive today, you should know better. Because you don’t know better , you are a male chauvinistic pig.

            • Mayhem

              We know better because God’s word is outdated or we’re smarter than Him? Which is it, cobra?

        • Captain Spaulding

          i aint angry

      • The Clucker

        Look here, guy. You say BEEF has a big ego? Well, not long ago at all, I had made a comment to him through email regarding how he is good at helping people understand The Word. I can’t remember exactly what I had said, but I had made him out to be ‘very special’ in the eyes of the Lord. (special, as compared to others, anyway.)

        He humbly and modestly rebuked my statement, telling me to stop thinking of him as a special member of the faith. He doesn’t want people to look at him like that. Does that sound like someone with a big ego to you? I’m a bit embarrassed admitting that because at the time I felt like I had made an arse of myself. Heck I even probably turned red-faced in front of the computer, but I tell you this anyway to prove the point at the expense of my own embarrassment.

        You said to Mayhem:

        “I keep telling you I’m not having this debate with you on BIN. You want to believe in all this then fine. But you’re not proving anything at all by these repeated statements. For I’m not debating it with you here.
        But as long as we’re not attacking each other than fine. Tbh im more interested in Gunther and Jeds argument. And so should you!

        You pompous know- it- all lol

        Jon”

        The emphasis with the bold text is obviously mine. Read the first one I made bold, then the other.

        No further explanation is necessary on that. I think you can figure it out. You seem like a reasonably bright dude.

        Then you said:

        “You have a huge ego and show pride and anger. You are commiting some deadly sins in God’s eyes. Why can’t you repent these sins. You won’t be saved if you refuse to change!
        Have I really hurt your feelings Jed? Stop feeling sorry for yourself and understand we were doing this for your own good.”

        You seem to be the one with the huge ego here. Honestly, how can anyone take the above statement seriously after you have admitted to trying to bait people into conversation by saying controversial things? Have you hurt his feelings. Heh. Doubtful. I can’t see anywhere in his comments here where he has shown any inkling of feeling sorry for himself.

        As for you divulging information from personal emails and taking it out of context to sow discord among Brothers in the Lord…

        Shame.

        • Crow (hex)

          By the way you merikans act like soft cry babies. Shouldn’t you lot be called Sisters, instead of Brothers. And I wasn’t going to use that stuff but Jed forc3d my hand by calling me names and by the way he feigned surprise at Gunthers attack. I don’t like 2 faced people. He got his just desserts. I killed him with his own words, but it was never my intention at the start.

          You merikans just take things too personally and way too serious.
          ” sticks and stones may break my bones but words cqn never hurt me”

          Rock on Sisters. Merika land of the free and the scared. ( not to be free much longer!)

        • Crow (hex)

          Clucker, I can guarantee you, this is going to play on Jeds mind what happened here for a very long time. If he forgives me he might be able to move on. Are you going to be one of his chickens that he said he was going to get? Just asking, you seem to be laying a lot of eggs tonight. Sister.

        • Crow (hex)

          Jeez Clucker get a grip Sister. Mayhem said he agreed that he was a pompous know – it – all , so it isn’t an insult then if I used it. Hence the lol when I said it. You Merikans really have tunnel vision sometimes. But Clucker you’re such a sweet chicken, I could eat you, and I love the way you defend your Sisters. You’re a very loyal and decent chicken and an admirable person, whilst I’m a deadly snake, but I’ve already eaten Jed, so I’m not hungry, so I don’t need to eat you.

          • Mayhem

            Burning through the friends are we?

    • Crow (hex)

      Wow, Jeffrey, you’ve nearly got your 1000 clicks. 172 in the last 24 hours alone. Will definitely watch your podcast and leave a comment. Great thread btw.

      Jed we do love you. You’re a Set Apart according to Gunther. Go and tend to your Longhorns, and try and put this behind
      you. Least your weathers better than over here in blighty . Wet, cold and miserable here. I take it you don’t want to teach me the Word anymore! I don’t think it was working tbh. Still, chin up fella. You did say you were looking forward to me mangling my opponents. Try and forgive me, it’ll make you a better person, of that I’m sure.

    • Crow (hex)

      Ah that’s nice. Got a really sweet text from my friend. Car taxed and all legal& thank you for all your help Jon. Least I’ve made someone happy today. Lol

    • Crow (hex)

      Love friday nights on tv. Lots of tattoo programmes on. Ink Master is my favourite, and I love Gold rush as well. You Americans do make great tv. Lol

      Jeffrey, you got your 1000 clicks . Howls. Well done Coyote!

    • Crow (hex)

      Gunther gave me a great song to play yesterday. Over the Rainbow & What a wonderful world by Israel Kamakawiwo’ole.

      Such a beautiful and uplifting song. https://youtu.be/Z26BvHOD_sg . Go on Jed and play this song. It’ll make you forget all the hurt and betrayal. You’ll feel much, much better!

    • Crow (hex)

      Great tattoo rescue on now with Joey Tattoo Dallas Fort Worth, funky town. Stockyards are there. Cheers Merika!

      Texas your home state Jed, and the stockyards have Longhorn cattle. Oh the synchronicity .lol

    • Mayhem

      Incredible is right, Jeffery, the stop motion and necessary manual focus attributes attest to the admirable skill of the photog.

      I don’t see it as a “sign” of anything and have no idea how some Jesus freaks have got their undies in a bunch over what amounts to pictures of two birds having a territorial squabble.

      I’m just itching for one of them to try and conflate Noah’s dove as an example of birds being used as a sign while ignoring the fact that the sign was the straw in the dove’s beak. Mayhaps they’d thought that one through. 

      In the first photo I have the Crow telling the Eagle…

      “Fly, bee-arch, fly where I tell you. I’ll let you know when we get there. Where is there? Wherever the bleep I say, now fly damn you”

      … in a french accent.

      • Crow (hex)

        Ah, yes Mayhem the straw that broke the camels back. I take it all back you’re not dull Mayhem. That crow does look mighty chilled though. Did Noah scour the world to get all the animals. Did he have a magic carpet? Thought I’d ask since you know- it all.. Are you American Mayhem?

        • Mayhem

          Um, no, that’s different straw but I’m glad you see the funny side.

          Thanks for reminding me, cobra, that we haven’t done evolution yet. I recommend, in order to overcome what you imagine to be a logical fallacy, that you get your head around how we could all have come from Adam & Eve without catastrophic inbreeding.

          I’d get into it with you but your track record indicates you’ll just put up walls and refuse to consider any evidence. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

          Who I am and where I’m from is inconsequential and it’s not like we’re having a friendly chat and getting to know each other. Is it? Mate I’m just waiting for your 3rd goodbye and good riddance speech :razz:

          • Crow (hex)

            Ho, Mayhem. I’m celebrating. I’m like a pussycat at the moment. Ah you said Mate. When I said that to Red, he didn’t know what I meant. It’s British, so you are British!

            I’m being friendly, and I’m chilled so it doesn’t really matter what your thinking, you’re just a jumble of words to me nothing more. I’m open to things but I’ll take my time over it. I’m not going to be rushed.

            You said you didn’t believe 5 years ago, but you didn’t believe overnight did you, or did you just roll over and submit like the Clucker. I only thought dogs did that!

            • Mayhem

              You’re putting words in my mouth, cobra, that I never said. Poor form but typical of folk who have no answers.

              And I think your masters degree, in superior knowledge, is affecting your comprehension skills, for the moment, far more than the booze.

            • Crow (hex)

              Ah you are British then!

            • Crow (hex)

              Okay you said when you arrived on BIN 5 or more years ago you thought the Bible was a mildly interesting historical account and you were asking similar questions to myself. Is that better? Lol

    • Crow (hex)

      1000 clicks and 200 comments on the same night. And to think nobody cared about this thread at the beginning. There was only me, Gunther and the Clucker. Great night all round. Might even treat myself to a beer. Cheers!

    • Crow (hex)

      1Got to have that 200th comment. Feel like that crow on the eagle at the moment. He looks really chilled lol:D

    • Crow (hex)

      Mayhem , since Jesus was God and you sqid me and Gunther were Jesus freaks, doesn’t that make us God freaks. Aren’t you giving us a compliment there!

      • Mayhem

        So I did, cobra, although lamentably not all Jesus freaks are on the same page.

    • Crow (hex)

      Omw, this beers good. ! ” Old Speckled Hen “. If any of you ever come to the UK you must try the real ales.

    • Mayhem

      @Richard. What’s up, bro, cat got your tongue? I’d like to address the three videos, that you’ve shared with us, if you have the time. I call them – the smudged tattoo, dancing in the street and white men can’t jump.

      Plus I’d love to get into your precious gematria with you because it’s obvious you have no idea that the so called Bible codes do not provide the conclusive proof that you think it does.

      Don’t you know that the same formula can be applied to, eg, “War & Peace” (or the Koran) with equally amazing results? Are you unaware that we don’t actually have original manuscripts and, in fact, what we do have is a collection of differing copies?

      Gematria, without original manuscripts, is only able to prove that the Bible could not be written by men. It does very little to, conclusively, prove that God exists. Sure it can be considered as evidence just not conclusive evidence.

      And while cobra paints you in saintly hues, Gunther, in the back of my mind I still see you as the hippy-killing-chart-guy who has confessed to several murders on this forum.

      Get your arse back in here and face the music from turning your back on the brethren. If your brother offends you what are you commanded to do? Beef Supreme has already rebuked you for this and now so do I. You behave without accord to our Father’s clear instructions and will that do, do you think? Seriously, do you think or are you simply a radical reactionary like cobra?

      • Ambicatus

        i think, im busy with “social studies” as i have said before, and stimulus response, and what do i think i am?
        well, having fun, and illiciting responses, i got tired of trolling the stupids, so, i decided to troll others a wee bit, a bit of loving teasing, because, its good for everybody, and i dont need to get into a debate, for if you keep the 10 Comm, it matters not what you believe, because you SORTED, when the One spoken of in Daniel 12 arrives, He will bring clarity, its very simple, i plant seeds, and catalyse , just with a few choide words, how much teeth grinding, how much poo slinging, aaaah, my study is grand, this same occurence here, has played on on facebook , on live leak, and on numerous other forums, its quite interesting, i must learn all responses to all inputs, and BIN has been most handy, and that picture in your mind, is not incorrect, and i have not turned my back on ANYONE, nor anything, the game has not even started yet, this is, merely, a social experiment, to gauge opinions and see what i need to see, and it amuses me.

        for you heed not even the black sun, and all these things you are CERTAIN of, i am certain, i know enough to say i know nothing, i put all my Trust in my Creator, and am thusly led. His Law and Books guide, and show what He likes, and it is unreasonable to expect us all to get on like a house on fire, i love Beef no less than before, even more so seeing how much he actually cares, we have not met,. just to have it end so fast and abruptly, i am gathering data, and it has been most profitable.

        and the gematria is not precious, is is sarcastic an insulting.
        and, we, as His Servants, should NOT ruin the game and TRY to PROVE He exists, its pretty damn obvious He Exists.

        My whole thing here has been to FIND Set APart People, AND TEST THEM./

        nyaarrr, and i LOVE ALLL YAAALLLL WAAAAAAAY LOTS. YOU WILL SEE.

        good grief. all these feeeelings. its sure is fun!

        WHATTA POST EH!

        and like, i have NO say on who i turn my back on, the Book details that,.
        BUT, if youve read the Wisdom of YeHuShua Ben SIrah, you see its a COMMANDMENT TO TEST YOUR FRIENDS.

        and yaaaay, its the same here , i have good friends, very many good friends, AND THEY DONT ALL GET ON, its quite fun. and i aint been offended, and if beef got offended cause i called him a “jerk” well then im sorry, i mean seriously, im something far worse than a jerk, so meh, dont be weeners.

        ALL IM SAYIN IS MORE BUILDING UP< LESS BREAKING DOWN,
        specially WITH NEW ARRIVALS! good grief!@ stuffs gonna get interesting when the fun really starts!

        ANYWAY, HOW THAT 9TH PLANET EH.

        • Mayhem

          We’re all busy, Richard, yet in under 5 hours you had spotted my comment and formatted a several hundred word reply.

          “It doesn’t matter what you believe” Is that right? Well the church of the flying spaghetti monster will be pleased.

          Yes we know you’ve been laughed out of several chat rooms. 

          The Law that you claim to heed demands that you had, first and foremost, taken your beef up with, well, Beef. The Law goes on to set out what your recourse would be if Beef rejected your initial approach. 

          Am I wrong, Gunther, or are you out of step with the Word?

          Pretty damn obvious, huh, try telling that to the Atheists. 

          • Captain Spaulding

            i think your very wrong, and i dont care what athiests think. and im not busy, at all. and laughed out? i dont think so, when im done there is NO laughing, ARE YOU LAUGHING? i came here to share some secrets, not to argue, but i have noted, throught allllll my postings, not much refutings, i dont need to justify myself, nor do i owe you ANY kind of explanation, and as to what i think i am, well, if you think i have a “beef” with Jed, then your wrong, i simply, do NOT agree. and yes INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS. those who cannot see, DESERVE whats coming, and as they die an weep, ill be there to spit in their eye,. this whole thing has been very edifying, and like i said, helped me, to forment my opinions in regards to amerikans. BEFORE i start my work.

            one of my favorite moves, is to pretend, and look like, and go around like im very poor, then you see exactly what people think of you, its a very handy trick.

            the problem is, i have no see ANY essays from ANY of you, qualifying your faith. i have, yet only one can recognize it for what it is. Now, you want to argue nuances of the Law, with him that has memorized the Law, and LAID it out quite nicely for all, the Law is simply LOVE YOUR CREATOR ABOVE ALL ELSE< AND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR MORE THAN YOURSELF, simple as that. THATS the Law. THE WHOLE LAW, sure it can be broken down into 10 parts, which then can be broken down into 613 Positive an Negative Commandments, shall we go through them? and list them one by one? over 280 have been fulfilled, as the Ceremonial Law is COMPLETE.

            and how amusing is this whole scenario. im so glad i get to witness this whole palaver, and best is, there is no comment deleting nor editing here, i bet jeff has a nice read, as the skin is opened and the flesh peeled back to reveal what lies beneath.

            at least we getting past the superficiality that sits like a lacquer over everything amerikan.

            Also i find it rather insulting, to know you lot think cobra has the ability to SWAY me, no, i like him cause he is humble, HAS GOOD MANNERS, does not pretend to know everything, even tho he is more qualified than ALLLL of us put together, in SCIENCE that is, so of instead of comparing notes, on how stuff lines up, there is an EGO battle, and HURT feelings, but not on my part, thats for sure, im learning nicely, i see that humans are petty, and their feelings are easily hurt, i shall give this ZERO attention in the Ragnarok. the main function of my presence here, was to familiarize you lot with my ways of speaking, so if you saw me, you would recognize, by pattern of speech, who it was. That is all, i never came here to save, nor debate, nor prove nor nothing. numerous profiles, alll PURPOSELY written in the same style, with MINOR changes to confuse the REALLY stupid.

            i find all this, to be amusing. My "attempt" to try soothe these WOUNDED EGOS, shall not succeed. You lot have fun arguing, i dont argue, when i have a problem, i sort it out. and well, you lot must stew. i am NOT angry with ANYONE, especially not Jed, good grief man. This has all been a very profitable exercise, i mean, yowza, WE MAKING CLICKS FOR JEFF! hehehe, i knew this article would rock!

            did you not ever get the feeeling, that you were part of a game, but dint even know it? and this here game, is not to break your faith, but for Refinement, and introspection, and am i out of step? well, that the Ruach can tell you, nay, i think this is PERFECT pre-black sun discussions, i dont see this as a "fight" but rather as a very interesting display of that which i could not get ANY of you to show, any other way.

            the crow, lands on the eagle. and ya STILL dont get the metaphor. or do you?

            look at the crow.

            does he know?

            look at the eagle, does he know?

            no, the crow knows, and the Creator, will make sure everyone can see how the crow rides. WITH IMPUNITY.

            and who do i think i am?
            well, i am but a wyrm, and i abhor myself, for i am nothing, but He who sent me, is on Total Control, we are NOT enemies here, and yea i have cursed that greek for his insult to Beef with that jpg, NOTHING slips by here. WE may argue, but NO damn outside fecker comes an does that, he is not immune to my desires, whereas those who serve the Master, i have no way to touch, but others , i like to touch. in a bad way.

            and seriously, what are you lot fighting about again, i kinda forgot due to not caring, im more looking at tone, inflection, implication and intent,and well so far, i find NO true malice whatsoever, just some highly irritated Set APart people, WHO DONT LIKE BEING TESTED apparently, and o yes, the LESS you think of me,the better, i chose my words VERY carefully on this thing, for there is NO delete, its quite wonderful.

            most edifying! and this is not some board game, with turns, this is, ENLIGHTENING.

            "Pro 20:22 Do not say, “I repay evil.” Wait for יהוה, and He saves you. "

            • BEEF SUPREME

              I’ll put together my summary arguments and ship them to you in a few weeks, Cap’n.

              Yours ain’t exactly the re-entry I had envisioned, but I guess I’ll take it — all things considered.

            • Mayhem

              Disclaimer: this comment will make little sense unless considered as an ordered, point by point exchange with the comment by Cpt-Spaulding which sits just above it.

              I expected you would think that, Richard, due to it being easier, for you, than to admit you’re out of line.

              Laughing? Mate! Some of this has me in stitches given i take a sinful delight in watching yellow bellied, ignorant hypocrites squirm and twist rather than admit they’re wrong.

              Refute what? The uber-aggressive, slightly whack preaching of a lunar-tic? I could hazard a guess at why folk won’t engage with you but you’re almost certain not to like it.

              I’ll get what i deserve, no question about that, but if you come at me windmilling your chicken wings i imagine i’ll surprise the bleep out of you. We’re not all wusses who’ve never taken a punch in the face don’t you know?

              Snap i used to do your favourite move in department stores till they sicced security on to me thinking i was a shoplifter. Life is a game and that’s why we call it a race, human race, play well and try to win. I think Shakespeare said that.

              You really are saying that you’re better than us because you’ve written an essay. Oh yes you are and you’ve memorized the Law, my friend, in spite of Joshua 1:8. Again with being in accord with the Word!

              I note we’re both amused, good, but please don’t let my example cloud your opinion of Americans given that i’m half a world away from the land of the free and home of the brave.

              Tell yourself what you like but the divider whispered in your ear and you paid him heed. It’ll be alright, you’ll work through it, now that you know.

              Of course this is a game. Cobra follows me like a lost puppy, whining and pouting the whole way, and in his opinion i “trollbaited” you back into this thread. Not to mention i’ve got cobra to change the subject three times now even though he claimed he was great at that.

              The crow and eagle do symbolize certain things but their territorial spat means absolutely nothing. Especially now that it’s more than 6 months past since the image was taken.

              You put far too much emphasis on nuance and this is the very reason folk think i’m pompous. I’m writing in a different language than most of you, that is all, and whatever you read into that is on you. Test away, brother, test me hardcore just don’t expect me to pass with flying colours.

              While you’re lecturing on building up instead of breaking down, Cpt-Spaulding, may i remind you of something you said…

              “i defer to Beef because he is here to bless, and i to curse,..”

              … and While you’re lecturing on vengeance belonging to God, Richard, may i remind you of something else you have said…

              “im really only here for that “revenge for the battle of gibeah” party,..”

              … so GFY you bleeping hypocrite and do you need a link?.

              Without putting words in anyone’s mouth you now have, ya mad Viking, three witnesses against cobra for deceit. Now the court rests and you must choose, Gunther, which side you’re on. I have every confidence in you and love you more than my brother.

    • Mayhem

      You’re attempting to hold the moral high ground, cobra, and you’re entitled to no such luxury. Anyone reading this can find where you say…

      “They’ll wish they [in this case JW's] never met me! Keep changing the topic, side track them,keep answering their questions with questions of my own which are totally irrelevant.keep disappearing for a fag break and letting dogs out to relieve themselves etc .Complete and utter mischief is my name. Lol”

      … just like they can read where Clucker took you to task. You said God is okay with you not telling the truth so why should anyone believe anything you have to say?

      Oh and your Mum does not have God’s permission to argue with students of the word. She is to study in submissive silence and anything she wants said, in public, comes from her champion’s mouth. Husband, son, friend, advisor etc.

      • Crow (hex)

        Omw. I didn’t know you were a male chauvinistic pig as well as being a buffon. You’re stuck in the stone age
        This explains why your intelligence is comparable to a caveman. But wait a minute you don’t believe cavemen existed do you?

        God is going to punish you for your stupidity Mayhem. Ijust might quote you on the BINs so all the female readers can see you fore the retard that you truly are.

        Thanks Mayhem for that quote. Yes I think I’m going to post that all over the BINs

        • Mayhem

          How, exactly, does the commandment of 1st Timothy 2:11-15 make me a male chauvinistic pig? Before you reply be sure to read (1st Cor 14:34 and Eph 5:22-33) as they corroborate my point. You have made the accusation, cobra, now back it up, from the Word, as I have done in my own defence.

          Are you familiar with the story of Priscilla? That would have been a far better counter than your false accusation. The Bible does not teach the oppression of women, no it doesn’t, it teaches that everyone has their place and they should damn well know where that is. 

          • Mayhem

            No answer, cobra? Typical :razz:

      • Crow (hex)

        Omw Mayhem you just can’t see when I’m joking can you? Of course I will listen and be respectful. Most people wouldn’t give them the time of day, do you think they would say they are returning if I had been disrespectful. You really are stupid Mayhem. I’m playing mind games with you lot and you’re falling for it hook, line and sinker. Stupid, stupid man. Lol . You’re so thick you can’t be stirred.

        • Mayhem

          Says the guy who announced his departure three times now. About respect and listening to what folk have to say. I quoted you, liar. Pfft!

        • Mayhem

          How about I quote where you, specifically, said that you gain folks trust only to turn on them and betray their confidence? It’s in your KOS comment.

          How about where you specifically say that your means justify your ends? In case your superior knowledge is missing this point I mean where you said a little deceiving is all good.

          • Mayhem

            Oops that butchered cliché should read – “your end justifies your means”

            • Crow (hex)

              I see you troll baited Gunther.i was going to tell him it was a bait but he’s replied now. I couldn’t give a damn what you think, whether or not you think I’m being deceptive or whatever.

              For your information I like Kos and I shall be doing a bio on wikipedia if he gets in touch. But I certainly don’t like you.

              I don’t care where you got that quote from, I shall be trolling the BINs probably for a few weeks posting your quote on every single thread I go on . I’m not staying on this site so I have absolutely nothing to lose. You however, wish to remain on this site and you care what people think.This very fact gives me a huge advantage over you. By the time I am finished every female on this site is going to hate your guts.

              This is only the start Mayhem. By the time I finish you you , you’re going to wish that I never existed. I’m going to mess with your head. You won’t know who I am or when I shall strike. I am going to have huge fun doing this. Gunther will probably help me come up with some ideas, thats up to him.

              Try and be clever, it won’t work, I don’t care what the people on BIN think of me. I’ve got my friends and we get on very well thankyou.

              The more you talk the more ammunition you give me, so go ahead keep talking. I’ll remain on this thread all year if necessary. So just keep on , say what you like. I’ll keep playing mind games, so you respond. Any slip ups and I shall use it to damn you on the BINs. You love the BINs, it’s your life, it’s also your greatest weakness!

              Don’t swallow too many tablets!

            • Mayhem

              Bring it.

            • Crow (hex)

              Let the games begin!

    • Crow (hex)

      Very interesting. Just been reading through everything from the beginning. Beef said I was a snake pxxsing in Gunthers ear and that I was an enemy. This was before I posted his quotes. So you see folks, he was already calling me the enemy then. So I was fully entitled to expose this hypersensitive cry baby. He called me the enemy, so why not be the enemy. For everyones information, I hadn’t discussed any of Beef the Wusses comments with Gunther. So he started all this by lying. You see Beef is a total hypocrite, and thus he deserved everything that he got. He’s a extremely angry, hypersensitive , complete and utter liar. Gunther told me it was okay to deceive if it was for the benefit of that person..
      I’ve tried my hardest to refine this so- called Godly character by pointing out serious character defects. But this sensite soul, only gets angrier and angrier, and is exaggerating way too much his betrayel. He wasn’t betrayed for he betrayed me first. Don’t believe me read read from the beginning.

      This guy asks people to serve at the altar of Beef. He calls himself Supreme. He chides and scolds beginners to the Word. He thinks he is Divine. He has a super ego. He is a TOTAL self worshipper. He is a complete fraud ladies and gentlemen. Forcthis reason I shall troll this site, and anyone I see him having a go at I will link this thread for them.

      Seriously I have never met anyone who says they worship God, be so unGodly in their behaviour. Beef Supreme, Beef Maggot more like. That’s what he is folks a MAGGOT a SELF- WORSHIPPING one t that. I’ve tried to help this MAGGOT see the error of his ways, but he refuses to budge one inch. The MAGGOT refuses to listen tothe good advice that I’m giving him. The MAGGOT just doesn’t get it. The MAGGOT has been exposed on BIN for what he is. Maybe the MAGGOT will change after a lot of reflection. MAGGOT God doesn’t listen to self- worshippers like yourself. Someone who knows the Word but doesn’t apply it in their lives. God has given you the Law MAGGOT , so you’d better start doing what it tells you to do. Jesus gave you moral teachings MAGGOT , so you better start applying them in your life. Yes God will save you for your devotion to the Word, MAGGOT , but you know what I think he make you a MAGGOT for a while so you understand humility.

      There is only one Supreme Being, MAGGOT and that is your Lord God Almighty. ( ELOHIM )

      • BEEF SUPREME

        THESE, your summary arguments, will be answered. The above board I am finished with.

        You wrote:

        “So you see folks, he was already calling me the enemy then.”

        Wrong, though I can see why you would think so. You are not THE ENEMY, Snake. If I had capitalized ‘Enemy’ in that statement to Gunther, it might have been clearer. But even then, your narcissism would almost certainly have had you believing the lofty appellation ‘THE Enemy’ belonged to you. It doesn’t. It belongs to your boss. And Snake, when you tell people you had shared nothing of my words with Gunther at that point, you are a bold-faced liar. That too is in black-and-white above, in case anyone is interested. Try as you might, you’ll never be able to change what’s written up there.

        “Gunther told me it was okay to deceive if it was for the benefit of that person…”

        Is that so? Then if Gunther hands you an edged weapon and tells you to go slay, because it will benefit, you go and do. Right? O feeble and lamentable substance your mind is composed of.

        “I’ve tried my hardest to refine this so- called Godly character by pointing out serious character defects.”

        That’s your job, is it? You are here to refine people? But I’m the egoist?

        “He wasn’t betrayed for he betrayed me first.”

        Tell it to the Marines, liar. Like Gunther said, there are no ‘edit’ buttons here.

        “This guy asks people to serve at the altar of Beef.”

        I dare you to substantiate that slanderous charge. Never mind. I won’t be here to impugn your ability to understand words and their meanings. Your vision is defective. Your mind is defective. Your language and reading comprehension are defective.

        “…anyone I see him having a go at I will link this thread for them.”

        I hope you do exactly that, Vermin.

        “I’ve tried to help this MAGGOT see the error of his ways, but he refuses to budge one inch.”

        Next time you try to help someone Vermin, here’s a helpful hint: leave the knives at home. Betrayal is never helpful, Swine. It is never helpful.

        And it is nice to see you becoming so animated at the end. That made me smile.

        I’m not proud of the way I dealt with you on this board, Vermin. But there’s nothing at all here I would ever see hidden from anyone. You enraged me, it is true. But that was my own fault, because I was fool enough to trust you with sensitive information. My mistake. Then you disgusted me by feigning cloak yourself in righteousness. Fraud. You are a most vile specimen. And now I am finished with you.

        Never, Worm. Not once in my time at this website has anyone ever induced my bile the way you have done. Every time you turn I see another side of you yet more repulsive than the last. I don’t talk to people the way I have here done to you. Only you. That’s due to a failure of discipline on my part. I should have merely shown you my back once your knife came out. But again, I lacked the discipline to do that. Now there is something I intend to fix. A weakness I will be addressing. But you got what you deserved here, Slime. Nor was it vengeance that motivated me. It was only disgust and abhorrence. Now I will step away and my bile will abate. Then I will only feel sorry for you.

        I am glad to have met you, however. There will be benefit as a result of our meeting, I can guarantee you. It will not be the benefit you imagine and again, it will only be benefit DESPITE your craftiness and your writhing contortions.

        Severance, Snake.

        • Crow (hex)

          And the lying self – worshipping , hippocritical , MAGGOT lies and lies again! His supremeness isIin complete denial. And the MAGGOT surrenders and will be wallowing in self- pity. Whining and crying, what a wuss! Yes crawl back under your rock MAGGOT.

          Serve at the altar of Beef. You used those words in one of your first comments when you were moaning and whinging in response to a comment from Richard

          • Crow (hex)

            ” what did I do to make you change your obsequious fawning into scorn? One day you want to SERVE AT BEEF’ S ALTAR, then the next day you want him dead.” My emphasis. eg. Bill’ s car. Have you seen that car of Bills. And because I didn’t put it in quotes I can say it however I want if the meaning is the same. AND IT IS !

          • Crow (hex)

            And I didn’t share any of your words with Richard. I never used quotations and what I said was incorrect anyway.

            And you’ve been calling me a snake throughout this commentary as well as a worm, and the only person talking to Richard was me at that time, and he doesn’t have a snake pxssing in his ear. He makes his own mind up on things, and youre right you didn’t use a capital for enemy. And at the time I said that I wasn’t pxssing in his ear, and you said nothing, so you are a liar Beef.

            • Crow (hex)

              Sorry, I put the stuff backing up my conclusions below it by mistake. It is quotes qualifying what I say. Thankyou.

        • Crow (hex)

          CONCLUSIONS:

          During my email conversations with Jed at no point did he mention that I couldn’t discuss things on the BIN, he only asked for discretion regarding Richard.

          In my first comment where I talked about our correspondence I said ” Beefy needs several weeks to answer some of my questions” . Since he hadn’t replied to my most important question after 9 replies from him, do you think I was justified in stating this? I think I was.

          Jed then came on to the thread to chide me, after I specifically asked not to. He should have dealt with the matter privately. This was the start of all hell breaking loose, with accusations flying about, left , right and centre..

          I also asked him whether animals had souls according to Scripture. To which he answered that Iwas confusing souls with spirits. What do you think he was Iimplying with this statement? It’s completely obvious that he was saying that dogs have no souls.

          When I mentioned this Jed got very angry and said ” You are full of wickedness friend , full of division and deceit” Note he used the word friend here. Would your friends speak to like this?

          He wanted to know why Richard had the hump with him, and feigned surprise at his attack.

          Richard had the hump because he wasn’t practicing systema. He was breaking me down withoutbuilding me up. Look at the way he answered my EEvolution question. Look at the way, he hadn’t answered my replacement for reincarnation issue in 9 replies. Look at the insults he threwmy way during our email discussions Was Richard right Iin his assessment?

          To call me wicked and full of deceit was the last straw. And any respect I had for him went out of the window. This made me firmly believe that he had malice when he had revealed Richards full name. Ask yourself why did he need to reveal it? Me and Richard had an organic friendship and he would have told me in good time.

          So any discretion I had promised went at that point. I wanted to show that how he had been deceitful and how he had been criticising Richard behind his back. Do you think I was justified in doing this.?

          According to Jed this was the betrayel of the century. I was the lowest form of life and I had less morals than a psychopath. I was disappointed with Mayhem and the Cluckers reaction tbh, but not surprised, as they proceeded to trawl the comments looking for evidence to use against me.

          A lot of stuff was pure banter between me and Richard and I was exageratating some stuff, like the Jehovas witness stuff. When I said I used underhand tactics I meant by being ambiguous and witholding information. The bits about Geir was a work in progress. You can’t seriously think I can say Obama is the antichrist on wikipedia. This is why I asked Richard that question. By trawling through all my comments looking for evidence to support Jed, showed me that they had an agenda and they had tunnel vision.

          When Jed insulted me it didn’t really bother me, but when called the worst expletive in the English language. He knew that would make me angry, and he had the gall to accuse me of being vile.

          His next trick after leaving this thread is to contact Richard, presenting evidence, which he could make up for all I know. Note he won’t put this evidence on this live thread.

          He thinks he has done enough to damn my name and divide me and Richard. This is why I’m presenting my conclusions here.

          Read these conclusions and you may see this horrible debate for what it is. For several weeks it was just me and Richard on this thread. Cheerily discussing many topics, and then the Americans decided to enter the fray- all at the same time. Note! It’s important to know this, and also that Jed, Mayhem and the Clucker are all in contact with each other by email . Coincidence?
          I do know that Richard does not believe in coincidence.

          I rest my case. You decide what really happened here! Thank you if you have read this apart from Jed, Mayhem and the Clucker.

          • Mayhem

            Says the guy who has admitted he builds dossiers against folk and likes to use their own words against them :lol:

            • Crow (hex)

              Sick chauvinistic pig!

            • Mayhem

              Says the guy that preaches political correctness :lol:

      • Crow (hex)

        And before you Sisters of this MAGGOT start getting all offended by what I have just said. That MAGGOT called me the worst expletive in the English Dictionary. This sub- human MAGGOT is a lying self- worshipping, hypocritical, cry baby. He claims I have hurt his feelings, but the words he has used to attack me are beyond contempt! So think on Sisters, before your tunnel vision gets the better of you.

        And Mayhem you are a spiteful male chauvenistic pig, who has an inferiority complex, and who masks this by pretending to be funny, and who thinks he has a vastly superior intelligence compared to others, but we can see through you PIG oink oink!

        • Crow (hex)

          Jon to Jed ” oh just to let you know, if you go on the crow thread, please don’t put a comment on it” Did Jed do as I asked him? No he didn’t!

        • Crow (hex)

          Jed to Jon ” Richard is Gunther Jorgen K —- (my spaces) from South Africa. I have no compunction about sharing his name with you because he has posted self- identifying material to the live board at BIN on many occasions” Did I ask him for this information? No I didn’t!

        • Crow (hex)

          Jed to Jon ” so I would ask for your discretion if you ever speak to him about this issue”

          Jon to Jed ” got to the discretion part, and I can assure you that when you ask for discretion and for it to remain private between us then mums the word”

          Did I ever speak to him about this issue? Not before I posted it on the BINs

        • Crow (hex)

          Jon to Jed ” P.S. The MOST important questions are related to what the replacement is for the reincarnation of the soul and the family inquiry” My emphasis.

          Did Jed answer this most important questions of mine?

          In the 9 replies he made to me after this urgent request he did not answer the issue!

        • Crow (hex)

          Jed to Jon ” But you do seem a little uptight about things in general. We’ll chalk it up to your British- ness” condescending git !

        • Crow (hex)

          Jon to Jed ” You cannot accept the Theory of Evolution”

          Jed to Jon ” I reject theTheory because it is demonstrably false, and for no other reason. It doesn’t merit furthest consideration. It is based on lies and speculation- nothing more”

          More breaking down offering no evidence to back this up.

        • Crow (hex)

          Jed to Jon ” My sense is that you are approaching this from a very unstable mind- set”

          Cheers for the compliment Jed!

        • Mayhem

          In my opinion “worm” and “dog” are far worse because they’re scriptural whereas the “C” word is not.

          • Crow (hex)

            So you think dog and worm are worst than the ‘c’ word. You really are sick!

            • Mayhem

              No; i think the Bible is true and it does not speak highly of dogs, worms (or pigs for that matter) but it never once uses the “C” word.

          • Crow (hex)

            Sick nazi chauvinistic holocaust denying pig. God is going to punish you severely!

            And you Clucker like someone who has these views. Clucker you’re a disgrace!

            • Mayhem

              I’d get into the holohoax with you, cobra, except i’ve debated far better.

              You keep letting your superior knowledge get in the way.

              The lies of men, piled as deep as you like.

            • Crow (hex)

              The crows are coming for you Mayhem. Sweet dreams !

            • Mayhem

              Did you notice, cobra, that throughout this entire thread i haven’t wished anything on you?

              No hell, no fire, no punishment, no judgement, not once, even now.

              Others will have noticed.

            • Crow (hex)

              Who cares I don’t!

              Sweet dreams

        • Mayhem

          Says the guy who told everyone he had a masters degree in superior knowledge :lol:

          • Crow (hex)

            Oh btw I put your chauvinistic comment with added juicy bits on numerous threads

            • Mayhem

              I’m sure most of them have heard it all before. You’re late and isn’t this the second time you’ve been told that you’re tardy?

            • Crow (hex)

              Who cares. I’ll just tell them again and again!

              Sweet dreams Mayhem!

      • The Clucker

        Cobra,

        You say I roll over like a dog? I have RESEARCHED The Word and its validity. Just because I agree with someone that thinks the same doesn’t mean I’ve rolled over like a dog. Although I’ve asked for help from some, it doesn’t mean I just believe what others tell me. I prefer to think for myself.

        You have made a tremendous fool of yourself here, whether you believe it or not. You have been deceitful, and made an arse of yourself. I have nothing more to say to you.

        Gunther,

        What gives you the right to test the convictions of your friends?

        I’m done here on this article. Not like Cobra, where I say it 59 times then still return. I’m really done here. Cobra thinks he can ask someone for help, then when given that, thinks it’s cool to throw them under the bus. I still have respect for Gunther. Cobra… no. Cobra, this is very pathetic on your part. You seem to have the mind of a disgruntled child. Your pedigrees you brag of mean nothing when you insist on making a fool of yourself by belittling others and feigning some imagined sense of superiority, all the while bragging about your accolades.

        Gunther,

        Remember who your friends are. I consider myself one of them. I hope you feel the same. Testing each other is ok, but in an under-handed manner…

        You know what is said about that.

        The Clucker

        • Crow (hex)

          Sister Clucker, you’ve been brainwashed and manipulated by that evil man. See the word he called me. But you don’t see do you. Tunnel vision till the end. Sad. Very sad! That boy and Mayhem are in for some heavy duty correction in the future. Goodbye Sister!

          • Mayhem

            Says the guy who came to learn the Word and now presumes to know it well enough to pass judgement. You just get funnier and funnier, cobra, and Beef was right, you are the “count” in country.

            • Crow (hex)

              3 Sisters all in contact on email, all come on this thread at the same time.

              One Maggot, one pig and one headless chicken!

            • Crow (hex)

              Says the guy that knows nothing. Btw Youre my worst opponent!

              Sweet dreams!

            • Mayhem

              Who is “Youre” i’d like to see how bad he is :razz:

            • Crow (hex)

              :lol: Its you Mayhem you are the most stupid opponent that I have faced.

              Don’t forget the crows are coming for you. Sweet dreams!

            • Mayhem

              Why, then, didn’t you use your superior knowledge and make that clear?

        • Crow (hex)

          2Tunnel vision againthe Clucker. I didn’t ask for Beefs help, he offered to help me! So he could break me down. That’s what cult leaders do!

        • Ambicatus

          well, i HAVE to test, otherwise, who do i know to give the “stuff” to? i have to find out, exactly whats cutting, Beef has lost no points by my count, you neither, infact im very happy with the results! Beef Cobra Clucker all pass, I HAVE A QUESTION

          • Ambicatus

            WHICH

            • Mayhem

              I’m embarrassed to say i butcher the Queen’s English.

            • Mayhem

              I have a question.

              Win what?

    • Mayhem

      Cobra wondered what i was doing in the crow thread, so much so that he asked me several times, so mayhaps he forgot that i was invited…

      “Anybody reading this including Beefy, then go to Jeffrey Pritchett’s thread pronto.

      … not to mention his squealing about Beef also turning up.

      To the reader who blanches at my hardness of heart may i just say that in reply to a comment from me cobra had this to say…

      “That has to be one of the daftest statements that I have ever heard. [blah blah blah], you Bible people do make me laugh sometimes. Lol”JAN 10, 2016, 5:25 AM

      … to which i responded with the following warning…

      “please excuse me for thinking you had come here to study. Now that i see you’re only here to mock and scoff i’ll temper my responses accordingly going forward.”JAN 10, 2016, 11:12 PM

      … so he started it and he’s got no one to blame but himself. Link provided for context…

      /prophecy/2016/01/yes-putin-theyre-going-to-realize-what-theyve-done-2476394.html

      … you know, folks, all things considered i thought a masters degree would have included a bit of reeding riting and rithmatic but cobra’s form suggests he missed those classes.

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