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End Times Prophecy Warnings In The Bible - That Most Christians Are Completely Blind To

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End Times Prophecy Warnings In The Bible – That Most Christians Are Completely Blind To

2 Timothy 3:1-5 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

10 MINUTE WARNING TO UNDERSTANDING END TIMES PROPHECY

WARNING! END TIMES PROPHECY AGAINST AMERICA and the Churches – You Have Hastened the Day!



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    • fuzzy696

      This has been going on for centuries….so what is your point and when does it all end……I mean the fear mongering your preaching.

      • COCONUT

        They’ll answer you: it’s a website for that type of paranoia

    • faithbrother

      and you get two trolls a scoffing how quaint idiots who think they know everything are the worst hopeless creatures. full of hate and poop.

    • Pix

      All the NT books by Timothy are known fakes. They were all written by Christians. 6th to 7th century CE. Most of the NT is like that. For example the 4 gospels that made it into the bible, out of about 30 or so, are all by anonymous authors. In reality they have no idea who wrote them, they are just called Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. And they found a fragment of the gospel of Matthew in the Dead Sea Scroll cache, that dates to several hundred years before their claimed time line. Oops.

      Their whole argument that Christianity existed before it was invented at the earliest in 4th century political Rome, is based on a 4th century adulteration to the word ‘crestus’, that was deliberately altered into ‘christus’. Crestus means ‘good people’, not Christians.

      The NT is fraudulent.

      :lol:

      • BEEF SUPREME

        PIXISM NUMBER SEVEN:

        “All the NT books by Timothy are known fakes.”

        Brilliant, your grace.

        Number of New Testament Books attributed to Timothy?

        Zero.

        Something is fraudulent, your grace. Just not what you think.

        OUTRIGHT PIX BOLD-FACED LIE (number 313,333):

        “[T]hey found a fragment of the gospel of Matthew in the Dead Sea Scroll cache, that dates to several hundred years before their claimed time line. Oops.”

        Source please, your grace? Right. You don’t provide sources for your lies anymore because I’m insulting and I don’t read them when you do… or something like that.

        Liar.

        • Universal Sign

          Whenever the ULTIMATE “COWARD” ON BIN, the SUPREME LIAR, Mr. Know-it-all, shows up on BIN, YOU SHOULD BE HONORED, PIX!

          That is how I know you are “right”!

          Terrifying and “Judging” the “non-christians” today, are we, beefy boy?

          I see you are having a “conversation” with your “other selves” today!

          The beefy boy has a very lonely life, and is “snowed in” today!

          Yes, the absurd “Beef Supreme”, the self described “non-christian” “christian scripture” expert!
          HAHAHA!

          Aahhhhhhhh……….. THE HORROR OF chris O CREEPS……………. THE HORROR OF chris O CREEPS
          :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

        • BEEF SUPREME

          The only commenter on BIN who is terrified of me is you, Ignoble Savage-ess.

          Pix isn’t terrified of anything except bad merlot.

          You should be ashamed of yourself for being afraid of me.

          And it’s ‘ice’ actually, Demon Girl.

          More time to hunt down demons and lies.

        • Omega Files

          Matthew 13:30:

          “Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares (Pix, Universal Sign, Freeamerican), and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”

        • Pix

          On Timothy
          https://bible.org/seriespage/1-timothy-introduction-argument-outline

          On the gospels, this one is about the dead sea scroll fragment from the so claimed gospel of Mark that is actually by an anonymous author.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7Q5

          I don’t tell lies, I have no need to when the evidence speaks for itself. The fact you have never heard of the evidence, does not make me a liar.

          :wink: :lol:

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Pix wrote:

          “I don’t tell lies, I have no need to when the evidence speaks for itself.”

          Pix, are you the biggest fool to ever draw breath on Planet Earth, or are you just pretending?

          From YOUR PROVIDED EVIDENCE (Yes, your grace. The following comes at the end of a very short paragraph, the first on the page you have submitted, ostensibly in support of your PREPOSTEROUS claim.):

          “The majority of scholars have not been convinced by O’Callaghan’s and Thiede’s identification[1][2] and it is “now virtually universally rejected”.”

          VIRTUALLY UNIVERSALLY REJECTED

          Please allow me to translate that into English, your grace:

          NO ONE BELIEVES THIS LIE, NOT EVEN THE ENEMIES OF SCRIPTURE.

          So, your grace, you really will have to consider retiring at this point. You aren’t even keeping up with Truthseeker007. At least he reads the material he references.

          Must I waste further time on your claim that nothing in Scripture was actually written by Timothy, when nothing in Scripture is attributed to him?

          I shall. Whether or not it merits a response is another matter entirely…

      • Truthseeker

        pix

        your arguments are moving further and further in to la la land and since I doubt logic is taught where ever it is that you teach I suggest you find some one that really understands the subject an take a few courses.

        This is becoming embarrassing.

      • Nativesonwon

        Well, you seem quite informed. Perhaps you could explain to us of a lesser intellect, how it is that your life is dated from the birth of Jesus Christ, & that the entire world history is dated from the birth of Jesus Christ. As smart as you are, perhaps you might also want to explain away Jesus. Give it a try. Maybe you could be the first person to do it. Who knows. And when your standing across looking at us being comforted by Abraham, with a great chasm fixed between us that cannot be crossed, when you are in anguish, hoping for a drop of water to touch you tongue, maybe then the answer you’re looking for will come to you.

        • Pix

          Nativesonwen

          ” As smart as you are, perhaps you might also want to explain away Jesus.”

          Your wish is my command. There is not a scrap of evidence for the existence of the biblical Jesus.

          There is only one actual historical candidate that fits the description. Iesous, nick named Caesarion, the only begotten son of god, the Roman emperor Julius Caesar, via the Greek Egyptian Pharaoh and goddess, Cleopatra/Isis Meri. (Isis Meri = Royal Virgin. Virgin as per their interpretation, a young women who has not had kids)

          Born c20 bce, titled, ‘son of god’, ‘lamb of god’, ‘heir to the kingdom of god’ ‘in the image of god’, etc. Fled into the wilderness/exile when his mother killed herself, which explains the really odd biblical claim that a son of a lowly carpenter could be king of the world, when only someone born into it would have been acceptable. Eventually captured and crucified on the orders of his rival, the older adopted son of Caesar, Roman Emperor Augustus.

          Rome only crucified traitors to Rome, not over petty religious infighting in a piffling small province, in a piffling insignificant religion. They did not take the body down for an honorable burial, but left the body to rot off the contraption as a warning to other potential traitors.

          Perfect timing.

          :lol:

        • Omega Files

          @ Pix: you just make stuff up as you go, don’t you?

        • Wretched Infidel

          Ecuse me, Nativeson, but Pix has no need ‘explain away Jesus’ as he knows without a doubt that Jesus is a Solar Deity saviour-figure, as Mithra was/is. In fact, Pix can show you where Franz Cumont said that Jesus and Mithra are ONE and the SAME!~

          LOL PIX IS NOT LIKE CHRISTIANS, who by very virtue of their fu-ked-up lies they live in, HAVE to try to EXPLAIN AWAY HOW JESUS is NOT THE SCRIPTURAL MESSIAH!

          My word, you people are ignoramuses… ignorami?

        • Wretched Infidel

          Just have to tell you that Abraham was an honest man, unlike these Christians who never listen to truth.

          Abraham/Abram lived steeped in Chaldean Mystery religion (Solar, Astral, Planetary Gods)

          He decided that He would follow another Spirit, a Truth-telling One, Who was FOR LIFE and LOVE, one AGAINST LIES, when he heard from IAUE, Who has always been against Evil and warned the people always against folllowing the Evil One’s lies.. since Eden.

          Abraham would NEVER have agreed with your Jesus worship/reverence. He would think that he were again living in Ur of the Chaldees, watching and listening to you Chirsitans now here.

          Solar deity Religion IS chaldean astral and planetary god worship (as well as Egyptian)

          That is why Abram came out of that religion after listening to IAUE (Yahuweh, Iahuwah, Yahweh). He knew in his spirit that it was illogical and evil to the core as you all need to realize, and if you want to claim Abraham, then, like the Jews, you need to DO WHAT HE DID AND COME OUT OF SOLAR DEITY WORSHIP.

          Will you? Probably most will choose to stay in those lies of UR. Abram and his family and servants came out and that was only a frew. But for this love of truth and inner honesty, Yah LOVED ABRAM AND MADE HIM THE FATHER OF MULTITUDES for his love of The Spirit of Truth.

          So that is why all you mo. fo’s are blessed, because of Abraham, not because you are good.

      • SOM1

        Afraid not though I use to think “it was all something for the weakminded” until the night I had begun to open a Gideon NT in a last effort of hope just before death, that had been left on the bar a few days earlier by a certain woman and immediately an AUDIBLE voice sitting to my left (invisibly) said my name then “I am Jesus, I died for your sins, believe in Me and you will never perish” -worth noting is He said Jesus just like the spelling sounds

        the odds?-

        worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
        Revelation 19

        Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. John5

        And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest Acts9

        And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
        John 10

        In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
        Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature Colossians1

        Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
        1 Timothy 1

      • ThirdEyeOpen

        Finally, someone who is educated in TRUTH! Lord forbid the Bible thumpers research the source of the book they’ve dedicated their lives to. Because of that, it would never occur to them that it’s used for controlling the masses by creating fear for ones eternal soul. After all, who could prove or disprove what happens when we die? An agenda has been in place for centuries to operate in ways that coincide with the preverbal good book simply to keep them captive and believing.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          So you crown yourself with the mark of the Enemy of Scripture, and then advertise yourself as some kind of a non-biased authority on the contents of the Book you hate?

          I might as well ask a fair assessment of the Declaration of Independence from Karl Marx.

        • SOM1

          don’t be deceived, I assure you Jesus has been raised, dwells in eternity and has been given Authority over all on earth and in heaven, just as the scriptures verbatim declare.

      • qaneh-bosem honestyherb

        His New Covenant guarantees that He will put “HIS” law in my inward parts,
        and write it upon my heart.
        Jeremiah 31:33

        “Believers” are living proof of that text.

    • Mayhem

      Where’d all the good people go? We got heaps and heaps of what we sow.

      Fact Jack… Johnson

    • plsnogod

      this should be a good website,and still is in many ways.

      but why,with all our education,intellect,science and enlightenment,do some modern humans still bang on about deities??

      it is nonsense.
      as any decent student of history will attest.

      people through the ages have always wanted to believe in a ‘god’,
      it explains everything away,
      like a comfort blanket,or pap to a baby.

      if we are to progress at all,we have to forget all this superstitious rubbish,and start to focus on the reality of our problems.

      ok in a backward,ill-educated,indoctrinated society,it is perhaps forgivable
      but there really is no excuse for this in a first world country.

      get a grip.

    • plsnogod

      great title.

      most christians are blind…

      the blind follow the blind.

      there are,probably,no gods.

      so start acting like a human.

      ps i also feel there are no other ‘gods’

      what is a god anyway?

      huh?

      • Omega Files

        @plsnogod… you are pretty good at copying and pasting the same dry material over-and-over-and-over… … but can you actually hold a conversation? Many uneducated atheists are comparable to a voice automated answering machine that is capable of only 20-25 responses so I wouldn’t be surprised if you were unable to contend.

        • krb

          Oh, I see, and you are better by picking and choosing scripture to suit your reality.
          The bibles, just pick one, full of hypocrisy, contradictions and a lot of pure evil. And you can’t fall back on saying that you don’t follow the old testament. Jesus said to follow all laws and prophets.
          Pure evil:
          deuteronomy 20:16 7:1-2
          exodus 21:7
          numbers 31:7
          These are just a few, but wait…are thes to be taken word for word or as an allegory or a metaphor. Again, whatever suits your reality. Weak minded fearful sheeple but god loves you and wants your money, or your children, got to love those catholics.

        • Omega Files

          Find me one contradiction in the Bible

        • krb

          contadictions: just a sampling.

          God is satisfied with his works
          Gen 1:31
          God is dissatisfied with his works.
          Gen 6:6
          2. God dwells in chosen temples
          2 Chron 7:12,16
          God dwells not in temples
          Acts 7:48
          3. God dwells in light
          Tim 6:16
          God dwells in darkness
          1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
          4. God is seen and heard
          Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
          Ex 24:9-11
          God is invisible and cannot be heard
          John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
          5. God is tired and rests
          Ex 31:17
          God is never tired and never rests
          Is 40:28
          6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
          Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
          God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
          things
          Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

        • BEEF SUPREME

          And don’t think no one notices that this isn’t the first time you’ve been asked for even ONE contradiction in the Bible, krb.

          Typical play-book action from the ill-prepared, ill-informed enemies of the written Word…

          Spray the room with a few substantial-sounding charges and see what sticks.

          Maybe you’re just another “voice automated answering machine” yourself.

          But now that you’ve actually managed to become surrounded by some significant opposition, let’s see what you’re made of. I don’t envy your predicament. Probably better if you and your pal ‘please no god’ (please no contest) just hit the bricks.

        • Omega Files

          God is satisfied with His creation before Satan’s temptation and the fall of man…don’t forget about a free will now rookie.
          Gen 1:31

          God is dissatisfied because Satan has allowed his seed to corrupt the image of God. As a result, God flooded the world to destroy the Nephilim, and through Noah’s uncontaminated bloodline, the world would began to repopulate. When man was no longer in the image of God, man could no longer be indwelt with the Holy Spirit. Thus, it was necessary to destroy the Nephilim who had intruded upon God’s plan for free will.
          Gen 6:1-7

          God chose to dwell in the Temple at Jerusalem. Now, after Jesus’ sacrifice at the cross, we have become Temples for the Holy Spirit by belief in His Son.
          2 Chron 7:12,16

          Thanks to Jesus, the temple of God is now within us and by believing in Jesus we have access to the Father.
          Acts 7:48

          God dwells in light because His eyes are open to good and evil just as our eyes had been opened when Satan tricked Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
          Tim 6:16

          God dwells in darkness because He is omnipresent.
          1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

          I don’t think that I need to go on. I think I have made my point with these. Rather than doing any research yourself, you have resorted to a cheap, two-cent Google search to come up with a solution to the problem that I presented to you. You know nothing about the Bible and what it teaches so I’d back off the comment section and let the people who know what they are talking about represent your side of the argument.

        • krb

          I kind of figured you all would come back with some kind of pathetic platiitude and dodge the facts.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Dodge the facts? Don’t we even get an opportunity to compose a response? Here is a composed response to your list:

          1. God is satisfied with his works Gen 1:31 / God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6

          Genesis 6:6

          “And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.”

          So, according to you, because in Genesis 6:6, GOD was wearied by the evil deeds of His creation whereas in Genesis 1:31, GOD was not yet wearied by deeds which had not yet come to pass, this is indicative of a contradiction? I hope your examples improve after this one. Example one is thrown out on the grounds that it does not meet the requirement of being a contradiction.

          2. God dwells in chosen temples 2 Chron 7:12,16 God dwells not in temples Acts 7:48

          Let’s see what the Scriptures have to say:

          2 Chronicles 7:16

          “For now have I chosen and sanctified this HOUSE (H1004 בּית bayith), that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.”

          Nothing here about dwelling in temples. The HOUSE being referenced is the ‘House’ of Israel. In this case, ‘House’ is a familial congregation of specific people. Sometimes you have to look at the verses in their native language before you think to level a charge of contradiction. There is no contradiction here. Point dismissed.

          3. God dwells in light Tim 6:16 / God dwells in darkness 1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

          1Kings 8:12

          “Then spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in THE THICK DARKNESS.”

          THE THICK DARKNESS = H6205 ערפל ‛ărâphel Probably from H6201; gloom (as of a lowering sky): – (gross, thick) dark (cloud, -ness).

          Might that have something to do with a pillar of ‘glory’ appearing as a CLOUD by day and a FIRE by night? Of course it has. Where is the contradiction? Psalms 18:11 has Him dwelling in thick clouds in the skies. Other times He is said to dwell in light.

          How about you, krb? Is your dwelling-place consistently the same on a permanent and unchanging basis? And if it is not, is that fact indicative of some form of a contradiction? Are you even taking this matter seriously? Is GOD limited by your demands? Point number three, dismissed.

          4. God is seen and heard Ex 33:23/Ex 33:11/Gen 3:9,10/Gen 32:30/Is 6:1/Ex 24:9-11 / God is invisible and cannot be heard John 1:18/John 5:37/Ex 33:20/1 Tim 6:16

          So, according to you, the qualities of silence and invisibility demonstrate an utter inability to at any time be seen or heard? I’m getting tired of parsing your citations, so if you feel there is something in Scripture which DEMANDS that the Most High cannot be seen or heard, despite His usual characteristics of being invisible and silent to most men, then I would love to examine your submission. It would also be nice if you did some of your own work, rather than simply seeking recourse to material prepared for you by some other adversary of Scripture, but I’ll take what I can get. How say you?

          5. God is tired and rests Ex 31:17 / God is never tired and never rests Is 40:28

          Exodus 31:17

          “It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he RESTED H7673 שׁבת shâbath – to REPOSE, to cease from work), and was REFRESHED (H5314 נפשׁ nâphash A primitive root; to breathe; passively, to be breathed upon, that is, (figuratively) refreshed (as if by a current of air): – (be) refresh selves (-ed).).

          So – On the Seventh Day, the LORD had a ‘Sabbath’ and He ‘breathed’. Look at the verses in their native language before you level your charge. No contradiction.

          6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21 / God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all things Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

          So according to you, there are actually verses in Scripture which tell us that GOD is not omniscient and omnipotent. By way of a few examples of this, you quoted:

          Genesis 11:5

          “And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.”

          Is it somewhere written that He had not seen or could not see even before He descended? You are insisting upon limitations which are not required per the wording used in the verses you quoted.

          18:20-21

          “And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.”

          Is something being lost in translation here perhaps? What are the sentiments being communicated in the Hebrew? Here is the same verse from Young’s Literal Translation:

          “I go down now and see whether according to its cry which is coming up to Me they have done completely – and if not – I know.”

          Does the wording of this verse PRECLUDE omniscience? No. Of course it does not. What we have here is a description of a KING descending to the scene of a crime to pass judgment, and He is announcing His intention to do so to a man. This was done in demonstration specifically for Abraham’s benefit. This was a show of impartiality and right-ruling.

          Your citing of Genesis 3:8 in an effort to demonstrate your case isn’t even worth addressing. Omnipotence is not a concept you should need explained to you.

        • Omega Files

          Wow…I was in the process of creating my more comprehensive response but, after this, there is no need. Very well done. Thanks Beef Supreme.

        • Truthseeker007

          The genealogies of Matthew and Luke contradict each other

          Matthew’s genealogy of Jesus is recorded in Matthew 1:1-16, and Luke’s is recorded in Luke 3:23-38. It has long been known that these two records do not agree with each other. Specifically, they diverge after Solomon, converge at Shealtiel (the father of Zerubbabel), diverge after Zerubbabel and do not converge again until Joseph, the father of Jesus. (See Table).

          Note that this also means that the genealogy of Zerubbabel is contradictory. Matthew makes him a descendant of Solomon, David’s son. Luke makes him a descendant of Nathan, also a son of David. Since Solomon and Nathan were full blood brothers (I Chronicles 3:5) they cannot both be paternal ancestors of Zerubbabel.

          In fact, both genealogies are pointless, since both Matthew and Luke then go on to claim that Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit, not by Joseph. Since Mary was probably of the tribe of Levi (see Luke 1:5 in conjunction with Luke 1:36), it is therefore impossible for Jesus to have been the ‘Son of David’ as was required for the Messiah (Matthew 22:42).

          There is another problem with Matthew’s list. Matthew includes Jeconiah (Matthew 1:11), even though the Old Testament records that God cursed Jeconiah, and prophesied that he would never have a descendant upon the throne of Judah. (Jeremiah 22:28-30)

          Bible scholars have, over the centuries, proposed several solutions to this difficulty. Among these are –

          Luke records the lineage of Mary, and Matthew that of Joseph.
          The problem with this solution is that both genealogies explicitly end with Joseph. Further, Jewish genealogies were almost always traced via the paternal line. There is nothing in either text to warrant such a conclusion. This solution also fails to explain the inconsistent lineages of Zerubbabel.

          Another problem with this approach is that the genealogy listed in Luke is derived from David, whereas Mary belonged to the tribe of Levi, not Judah.

          Matthew’s genealogy is not complete – he skips generations.
          In fact, this is true. Joram was actually the great-great-grandfather of Ozias (Matthew 1:8. Ozias was spelled Uzziah in the Old Testament), and Josiah was actually the grandfather of Jechoniah (Matthew 1:11). However, this solution creates more problems than it solves. Firstly, it again still does not explain the divergent genealogies of Zerubbabel, and secondly it means that Matthew’s assertion that there are fourteen generations from the captivity to Jesus is wrong. (Matthew 1:17). In fact, in Matthew’s list, there are only thirteen generations from the captivity to Jesus, not fourteen as he claimed.

          One or both genealogies include maternal deviations.
          This is possible, but unlikely. The Jews almost always traced genealogies via the paternal line. Again, there is no hard evidence from either text to indicate that this is true. Matthew mentions four females (Tamar, Rahab, Ruth and Beth-Sheba), but only together with their husbands in the paternal line.

          This is just one out of the many!!!

          http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/bible/ntprob.shtml#GENEAOLOGY

        • Truthseeker007

          Hebrews incorrectly quotes the Psalms

          In Hebrews 10, the author appeals to one of the Psalms while arguing that Jesus was sacrificed for the sins of mankind.

          Hebrews 10:5-7 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

          The problem is that the verse does not appear in the Psalms as quoted.

          Psalms 40:6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required. Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, I delight to do thy will, O my God…

          Note that the crucial phrase ‘…a body hast thou prepared me…’ does not appear in the Hebrew version of Pslam 40:6. The author of Hebrews depended on this phrase for his argument.

          Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

          The phrase quoted in Hebrews 10:5 actually comes from the Septuagint, the Greek version of the Old Testament. This raises the troubling question of textual reliability. We now have no idea which text (Hebrew or Greek) is supposed to be reliable. If the Hebrew reading is correct, then the argument produced here in Hebrews 10 is invalidated; if the Septuagint version is correct, it casts a shadow on the reliability of the entire Hebrew Old Testament.

          Mark incorrectly attributed a prophecy

          Early in Mark’s gospel, he quotes an Old Testament verse when introducing John the Baptist:

          Mark 1:2 (NIV) It is written in Isaiah the prophet: “I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way”…

          Actually, the phrase comes from Malachi, not Isaiah.

          Malachi 3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me…

          It seems that the ancient scribes who copied the New Testament manuscripts were aware of this problem, because a number of later Greek manuscripts remove the reference to Isaiah, and simply substitute “the prophets” (as in the KJV).

          Matthew refers to an unknown prophecy

          Matthew 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

          This prophecy is not recorded anywhere in the Old Testament.

          Some have speculated that Matthew may have been referring to a passage in Isaiah.

          Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots…

          The Hebrew word translated ‘branch’ is the word ‘netzer’, and may have been the root of the name ‘Nazareth’. If this is true, it raises an interesting possibility. The location and even existence of the town called Nazareth has long been problematic. (The place that is called ‘Nazareth’ today has not been verified by archaeology, and in fact does not fit the description of the town given in the Gospels). The name is never referred to in the Old Testament, nor by any of the contemporary historians. Even the early church fathers, such as Origen and Eusebius, who were familiar with the area, could not point out the location of Nazareth.

          This has led some to speculate that there never was a place called Nazareth. The theory is that Jesus was called ‘Jesus the Branch’ by the early Christians, as a reference to Isaiah 11:1. In the years between Christ’s death and the writing of the Gospels, the origin of the phrase was confused, and some thought that ‘netzer’ referred to a location, thus ‘Jesus of Nazareth’. If correct, this theory would explain the lack of any historical witness to the town called Nazareth, and Matthew’s puzzling reference to a nonexistent prophecy.
          http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/bible/ntprob.shtml#NAZARENE

        • James - Divine Love Spirituality

          Omega and the Beast

          “When man was no longer in the image of God, man could no longer be indwelt with the Holy Spirit.”

          Man is always of the image of God, that being what our natural love is. Albeit we’re currently in the negative of that image, that being why we’re imperfect. And the Holy Spirit doesn’t indwell anything, that’s our Indwelling Spirit that comes to us when our forming years are over and our mind is up and running. So we’ve become Temples for this indwelling spirit fragment of God, which is our ‘God within’. Read the Indwelling Spirit papers in the The Urantia Book. It’s why the UB has been given to us, to correct such errors.

          And as Jesus tells us in the Padgett Messages, we can long to ‘God without’, God in Heaven, for His Divine Love, which if our longing is true, will be conveyed into our souls by the Holy Spirit, all so we can transform our soul from being of the image of God into the very essence of God. So we can by partaking of the Divine Love become divine and perfect as God is perfect.

          And when you pray and long to God for His Divine Love, it’s that lovely feeling of warmth, of being engulfed by the Holy Ghost we feel as the Holy Spirit comes about us. And then if you relax and embrace the experience, you can feel the Divine Love moving deep in through you into that part of you down in the pit of yourself deep down under your ribs, down where the entrance to your soul is. And you might even feel yourself ‘breathing’ the Divine Love into you, in through your spirit heart, as it moves from the Holy Spirit into your soul. This being such a beautiful experience of being loved by God.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Truthseeker007 wrote:

          “The genealogies of Matthew and Luke contradict each other…”

          Not only have you and I been through this particular objection before, but the fact that you are using it now, again, reinforces my previous charge of dishonesty against you. Not a surprise.

          The lineage in Matthew and the lineage in Luke are different because one is Joseph’s line and one is Mary’s line. And you know that ALL lineages in Scripture are given according to the MALE bloodline, so that in Mary’s case, the line is given THROUGH HER FATHER.

          You haven’t taken the time to confirm that, 007. That means you have no interest at all in getting to the TRUTH of the matter, but are interested only in spreading lies and trying to inflict damage wherever you THINK you see an opportunity.

          You can add this offense to your ever-growing list. And that’s as much time as I will be wasting on your ‘objections’ here. Take your place among the liars.

        • am123

          Thanks Omega and the Beast and BEEF SUPREME for defending the truth against these scoundrels!

        • Omega Files

          @James… I suggest that you do a re-reading of Genesis 6… Maybe pick up a copy of Jasher, Jubilees, and Enoch while you area at. When man corrupts the image of God (our DNA – as it was in the Days of Noah) the Holy Spirit cannot enter.

        • am123

          James said:

          “And as Jesus tells us in the Padgett Messages….”

          That wasn’t Jesus speaking, that was you know who :twisted: .

        • BEEF SUPREME

          “…that was you know who”

          The seven heads and ten horns should have been a dead giveaway.

        • merlgerl

          Response to krb.If God, the Creator of all things, is the end all and be all, all of the “contradictions” would not be contradictions but facts. And since I know things only from a human perspective how could I possibly grasp the omnipotence of our Lord. Other than to be in awe of it.

        • SOM1

          @krb, wrong though I can understand the confusion by so many

          Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. John5

          Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
          Acts 7

          Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
          Galatians 3

          Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
          Colossians 2

          For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward Hebrews2

          God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews1

    • Captain Solar

      difficult to work out if it’s an eye for an eye here, or turn the other cheek.

      just no clarity in fiction.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        The Clarity came to Earth in the flesh in order to demonstrate to men the right interpretation of the Law.

        So we have the Law, which demands an eye for an eye…

        …but we also have the fact that the Lawgiver Himself has told us that WE are not the Judge.

        Therefore WE are Instructed to turn the other cheek. And while the specific penalty in the Law has been prescribed, there first needs to be a judgment entered and adjudicated by THE JUDGE against the offender.

        We are not to take the Law into our own hands. And if we do, then we can expect to be held to account for every single infraction of that same Law which we ourselves are found guilty of. By the measure in which we mete out our justice, so shall it be meted unto us.

        There may not be clarity in fiction, but there is Perfect Clarity to be found in Scripture. One needs only take the time to actually look for it.

        • Anonymous

          others, much smarter than you, have a different opinion..

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epLhaGGjfRw

          you ridiculous clown.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          I’ll bet Charles Darwin was plenty smarter than me.

          I’ll bet Marx, Hegel and Old Fred Nietzsche were smarter than me too.

          You want to know what else they were?

          They were liars.

          You think because a man is smart that he’s something you can trust?

          You’re your own worst enemy.

        • Anonymous

          a pumpkin is smarter than you, and maybe the liars are the ones, you know, with no credible facts or evidence to back up what they are saying..

          idiot.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Make your case.

          Show an example of something I said where I have offered, or can offer, no supporting evidence.

        • Anonymous

          “Show an example of something I said where I have offered, or can offer, no supporting evidence.”

          ummm… that god exists…

          make your case…

          lumpen

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Now you’re the liar.

          You don’t expect me to believe in a true atheist, do you?

          By virtue of the fact that your pestering, festering being exists here and now, I rest my case.

          By virtue of the fact that you have fingers with which to compose your harassing but vacuous response, I rest my case.

          You do not expect me to believe that you think you evolved from sea slime. And if you do, you are the dullest of the dull.

          An agnostic is simply a lazy thinker.

          An “atheist” is a liar and an enemy of the Most High.

        • Anonymous

          what an idiot response.. i expected nothing more…

        • Anonymous

          instead of pretending you know what i think, or believe, and instead of asking rhetorical questions, how about you cough up a little supporting evidence for your imaginary god.., ya know.. like you said you could.. lol..

        • BEEF SUPREME

          I’ve given you quite enough of my time already. I’ve given you more than you’re worth.

          Now I ORDER you to compose your next annoying pestering response as I show you my back.

          Do it now.

          And post it right here like the good little slave you are.

        • Anonymous

          you gave me nothing.. any time of yours, i took :)

          i command you to keep pretending there is a god, and to bother the good folk of BIN to that effect ad nauseam. do it now!

        • Anonymous

          beef supine can offer no supporting evidence that his god exists, so he runs away like the cowardly little lying idiot he is.

        • Anonymous

          i have fingers.. so god exists?

          i have fingers, therefore, snakes can talk
          i have fingers, therefore, noah can build a boat and fit two of every animal on it..
          i have fingers, therefore, some donkey riding slut can become pregnant without ever having sex..
          i have fingers, therefore, after being dead, you can come back to life..

          etc etc etc.. this is what he calls supporting evidence that his imaginary god is real..

          because i have fingers..

          i dare not ask him what he thinks the fact that i have toes means…

        • Anonymous
        • Omega Files

          How can you offer supporting ‘evidence’, according to your definition of ‘evidence’, when the subject defies our limited senses. Asking for someone to prove that God exists is not a logical question. Faith is the evidence for things not seen, heard, touched, etc.

          C.S Lewis: “Another possible objection to Christianity is this: Why is God landing in this enemy-occupied world in disguise (as Jesus in human form) and starting a sort of secret society (Christianity) to undermine the devil? Why is He not landing in force, invading it? Is it that He is not strong enough? Well, Christians believe he is going to land in force; we don’t know when. But we can guess why He’s delaying. He wants to give us the chance of joining His side freely. I do not suppose you and I would think much of a Frenchman who waited till the Allies were in Germany and then announced he was on our side. God will invade. But I wonder whether those people who ask God to interfere openly and directly in our world quite realize what it will be like when He does. When that happens, it’s the end of the world. When the author walks onto the stage the play is over. God is going to invade, all right, but what is the good of saying you are on His side then, when you see the whole natural universe melting away like a dream and something else-something that had never entered your head to conceive, comes crashing in; something so beautiful to some of us and so terrible to others that none of us will have any choice left? For this time it will be God without disguise (in His true divine form); something so overwhelming that it will either strike irresistible love or irresistible terror into every creature. It will be too late then to choose your side. That will not be the time for choosing; it will be the time we discover which side we have chosen, whether we realized it or not. God is holding back to give us that chance (to choose to believe in Him freely). It will not last forever. We must take it or leave it.”

          If an atheist and a Christian examine the same data but come to different conclusions, why is one called science and the other called faith? Evolution has detached man from his creator and being created in God’s image and likeness. Evolution is nothing more than a religion that enables people to justify writing their own rules. Man is now a free agent to tamper with his DNA under the guise of advancing evolution. Therefore, man sees himself as the captain of his own destiny. He is going to overcome death, disease, and human limitations. Rather than live with the image of God that he has and received the cure for his fallen state, man would rather pretend that God does not exist and attempt his own cure. Even the difference in the sexes is no longer considered to be God-given. Mankind is racing toward changing the very image that we were created in to disconnect us from God forever. Satan’s ultimate plan will be to persuade and/or force man to change his genetic makeup so that he is no longer fully in the image of God. Once we give up the code we have been made with, we in fact will be forsaking the image of the One who created us. Not only does this violate the ‘according to its kind’ principle, but it also has the radical consequence of man changing himself from God’s image. This wholesale redesign of humanity is what Satan has been planning for millennia. Essentially, there seems to be a scientific agenda to suppress any evidence that may point to the reality of a God or topple the hypothesis of evolution. These modern day prophets of Darwin have even gone as far as to ban any scientific research that casts doubt on Darwin from being taught in most schools. It is very strange that the supposedly objective field of science has to prevent people from examining all the data. It is a modern day reminder of when the pope banned the common people from reading the Bible; only the Papacy was allowed to tell you what to believe is real.

          The audacity of people to claim that their guesses on human origins are fact and unquestionable even though they are based on hypothetical origins reveals arrogance that has no boundaries… God himself has invited us to examine, search, and explore. He knows that those who do this with a humble heart, and those who do this with the intent of truly discovering truth, will indeed discover Him. Jesus is not afraid of an examination. In fact, He provided the platform, through the Bible, to facilitate it. I am thoroughly convinced that through the study of Jesus Christ we can find out who we are, how we came to be, and where we are going. The very purpose of your life is found in the person of Jesus Christ, and He has invited all of us to examine the evidence of who He is. I say it can be sobering because we are all without excuse. The secular worldview, powered by evolution, finds itself void of any fuel. It is plain to us that the hand of God is prevalent and constant in creation, and no other explanation of the world stands in this modern age. The Bible alone explains who we are and who God is. It is comforting, because we have answers, and it is sobering because we are all accountable for the knowledge that we now have. We cannot claim ignorance, for we have been exposed to the evidence; we are either for Christ or against Him. The evidence, being so clear, removes any claim of a middle ground. Therefore, those of us who have tasted the heavenly gift – who have not been born again and filled with the Holy Spirit – cannot travel a road that alludes to a vague intelligent designer. We cannot leave open-ended speculation on creation; we cannot speak about God through a muffled cough. Our time is now short; our voices must be loud.

          Blind faith is not our lot in life. Such empty belief does not throttle the born-again believer. The facts that carry our faith are these: Jesus was publically tried because of His claim of deity and He was able to claim deity, because His miracles were on display everywhere. He lived in such a way so that we could not possibly doubt His existence, His power, His deity. He then entered into the lives of so many of us and transformed us from the sinners we used to be, and granted us forgiveness for all that we have done and will continue to do. Even though the natural world around us testifies to the fact of God, for those of us who have experienced a changed life through being born again – that represents the strongest evidence we will ever need. Furthermore, Jesus sends rescue missions for those who have no faith, but earnestly are seeking and wanting the faith to believe, wanting to see reality. It is no coincidence that the Bible records that one of the disciples fell into a faithless predicament. Yet the heart of Thomas was true, and Christ literally showed up to rescue Thomas from his lack of faith:

          John 20:25: “The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

          So here we stand at a most interesting intersection in time. Thomas has forever earned the moniker ‘doubting Thomas’, though he only maintained the doubt for eight days. Jesus would return to His disciples at just the right time and say:

          John 20:27-29: “Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”

          Note that Thomas was invited to examine Christ. Jesus spoke to him and said, in essence, ‘here is the evidence of my death, and my Resurrection’. Upon seeing such, Thomas proclaimed, ‘My Lord and my God!’ Then Jesus said something interesting. He told Thomas, even though Thomas believed because of the evidence, ‘Blessed are those who have not seen yet have believed’ (v.29). Thomas missed out on a blessing because he needed to see the evidence all around him. Thomas was our example that some people need more evidence than others. However, the Bible never claims that the evidence is not and has not been provided. Jesus provided what Thomas needed; Jesus simply reserves a greater blessing for the pure and innocent faith of a child. By seeing the evidence firsthand, Thomas moved to a place where to doubt God, to doubt Jesus, would have taken a defiant act of insubordination before God. Thomas moved into a world of evidence, in which everything around him – because he then knew the absolute truth – testified to the deity of Jesus Christ. Thomas could never again claim ignorance before God and say: ‘If only…’, and neither will you.

          Those same disciples who hid in fear for their lives when Christ was crucified had a radical change in perspective. History would tell us that these same men who were cowards before, during, and immediately after the crucifixion, then suddenly became bold, powerful public preachers for the cause of Christ. There is only one thing that could have happened after the crucifixion to change these cowards into courageous spokesmen. According to their own testimony, they saw the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Then the Holy Spirit empowered them on the Day of Pentecost. He entered into their lives and made them new creations because of their belief in Him – it was just the event that Jesus said would happen. These events account for the sealed change in their lives. Each one of them, save John, were eventually executed for their testimony of Jesus Christ. They were killed because they would not denounce what they saw with their own eyes. This is in stark contrast to what these same men did directly after the crucifixion.

      • Truthseeker007

        Beef Supreme you are the liar don’t ya know!! You just make things up as you go.

        The problem with this solution is that both genealogies explicitly end with Joseph. Further, Jewish genealogies were almost always traced via the paternal line. There is nothing in either text to warrant such a conclusion. This solution also fails to explain the inconsistent lineages of Zerubbabel.

        Another problem with this approach is that the genealogy listed in Luke is derived from David, whereas Mary belonged to the tribe of Levi, not Judah.

        Matthew’s genealogy is not complete – he skips generations.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          “The problem with this solution is that both genealogies explicitly end with Joseph.”

          For all your cut-and-past clogging of the boards, do you actually expect anyone to read everything you post? Of course you do. Why, then, do you not return the courtesy and actually read what I have specifically written for you in our past encounters? I do not rip huge pages from another’s material 007, I compose my own work. So when I write something for you, it would be nice if you actually bothered to read it. Here it is again:

          BOTHE GENEALOGIES END WITH JOSEPH: one is through his FATHER’S line, and one is through his FATHER-IN-LAW’S line.

          Stop arguing and just examine the evidence. See whether or not I am lying. Do you want to THINK you’re right 007, or do you want to BE right? It better not be the former in your case, or you had better change your name.

          Show some evidence in support of your claims about ‘skipping generations’ and ‘inconsistent lineages’. Also, show something about Mary’s supposed descent from Levi. Bring something to the table to support these claims.

        • BEEF SUPREME

          “Matthew’s genealogy is not complete…”

          (In fairness, I see you did provide something on this point above. I will examine all the material soon and see whether your claim holds even the slightest volume of legitimacy.)

        • BEEF SUPREME

          007,

          One of your many claims is that Mary is descendant from the Levitical line. You will need to produce something to support such a claim. Mary is clearly descendant from the line of Judah, per the evidence and per the prophetic requirements of the Covenant. All of your remaining charges with respect to the question of conflicting lineages are answered below.

          The Genealogies of Matthew and Luke

          Dave Miller, Ph.D.

          One of the charges of contradiction brought by skeptics against the Bible is the surface appearance of contradiction between Matthew’s genealogical list (1:1-17) and the one provided by Luke (3:23-38). As is always the case, the charge of contradiction is premature and reflects an immature appraisal of the extant evidence. In every case of alleged contradiction, further investigation has yielded additional evidence that exonerates the Bible and further verifies its inerrancy. The alleged discrepancies pertaining to Matthew and Luke’s genealogies were explained and answered long ago (e.g., Haley, 1977, pp. 325-326; McGarvey, 1910, pp. 344-346; McGarvey, 1974, pp. 51-55; cf. Lyons, 2003).

          When one places the two genealogical lists side by side, several factors become immediately apparent that combine to dispel the appearance of conflict.
          First, Matthew reported the lineage of Christ only back to Abraham; Luke traced it all the way back to Adam. Second, Matthew used the expression “begat;” Luke used the expression “son of,” which results in his list being a complete reversal of Matthew’s. Third, the two genealogical lines parallel each other from Abraham to David. Fourth, beginning with David, Matthew traced the paternal line of descent through Solomon; Luke traced the maternal line through Solomon’s brother, Nathan.

          A fifth factor that must be recognized is that the two lines (paternal and maternal) link together in the intermarriage of Shealtiel and Zerubbabel. But the linkage separates again in the two sons of Zerubbabel—Rhesa and Abiud. Sixth, the two lines come together once again for a final time in the marriage of Joseph and Mary. Joseph was the end of the paternal line, while Mary was the last of the maternal line as the daughter of Heli.

          The reason Joseph is said to be the “son” of Heli (Mary’s father) brings forth a seventh consideration: the Jewish use of “son.” Hebrews used the word in at least five distinct senses: (1) in the sense used today of a one-generation offspring; (2) in the sense of a descendant, whether a grandson or a more remote descendant many generations previous, e.g., Matthew 1:1; 21:9; 22:42 (“begat” had this same flexibility in application); (3) as a son-in-law (the Jews had no word to express this concept and so just used “son”—e.g., 1 Samuel 24:16; 26:17); (4) in accordance with the Levirate marriage law (Deuteronomy 25:5-10; cf. Matthew 22:24-26), a deceased man would have a son through a surrogate father who legally married the deceased man’s widow (e.g., Ruth 2:20; 3:9,12; 4:3-5); and (5) in the sense of a step-son who took on the legal status of his step-father—the relationship sustained by Jesus to Joseph (Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3; Luke 3:23; 4:22; John 6:42).

          Notice carefully that Joseph was a direct-line, blood descendant of David and, therefore, of David’s throne. Here is the precise purpose of Matthew’s genealogy: it demonstrated Jesus’ legal right to inherit the throne of David—a necessary prerequisite to authenticating His Messianic claim. However, an equally critical credential was His blood/physical descent from David—a point that could not be established through Joseph since “after His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 1:18, emp. added). This feature of Christ’s Messiahship was established through His mother Mary, who was also a blood descendant of David (Luke 1:30-32). Both the blood of David and the throne of David were necessary variables to qualify and authenticate Jesus as the Messiah.

          Once again, the Bible’s intricate complexities shine forth to dispel the critic’s accusations, while simultaneously demonstrating its own infallible representations. The more one delves into its intricacies and plummets its intriguing depths, the more one is driven to the inescapable conclusion that the Bible is, indeed, the Book of books—the inspired Word of God.

          http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=932

    • Mag253

      Most of the biblical predictions are things that are always going to happen such as natural disasters. Most of the disciples in the bible thought that they would see in there lifetime the end of the world. We are still waiting for all these things to come and who am I to say they won’t happen. The thing about the bible is you can’t disprove it but you can’t prove it all at the same time. The thing that throws me off the most is you have a divine creator that decides everything that goes on in the universe but yet can’t figure out a way to save the people on the place he created besides sending his son on a suicide mission to earth. I know I will probably get a lot of grief for calling it suicide but Jesus did give up his spirit and then died which means he did kill himself. Being a father I would never sacrifice my son to save anyone. I know though, I don’t have “unconditional love” like god does but I have enough love to never wish to send people to a place that they will burn for eternity in, but hell what do I know

    • Anonymous

      @ ” Omega and the Beast

      Wow…I was in the process of creating my more comprehensive response but, after this, there is no need. Very well done. Thanks Beef Supreme.”

      beef supine may indeed have his own interpretations of these contradictions, and therefore, may believe himself that they are not contradictions, but that in itself doesnt make him either right, or any smarter than the average pumpkin.

      you asked to be shown contradictions, and were shown many. to say simply .. well done beefy, you sure showed him, does not make them magically disappear..

      • Omega Files

        I provided my response to his lazy Google search for contradictions, in which ‘krb’ replied: “I kind of figured you all would come back with some kind of pathetic platiitude and dodge the facts.”

        Beef and I share the same interpretation of the text. Our beliefs may vary in regards to Biblical prophecy, but the Meat of the text, we agree on. This concept probably wouldn’t be that hard for you to comprehend if you would actually read the book.

        If someone is an expert on the Dung Beetle, you would probable say he is ‘smart’. And if someone was an expert on molecular biology, you would probably say he is ‘smart’. But the expert on Biblical scripture and eschatology is not ‘smart’?… “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man.”

        But then, I even posted a longer message about how you will NEVER get the facts that you are looking for. Proving the God exists is done through Faith, not evidence. So far I have yet to see someone actually show me a contradiction in the Bible.

        You want to talk about dodging the facts? Why don’t you go back and read the ‘facts’ that Beef and I have posted and compare them to the false assumptions provided by the few who were ignorant enough to challenge Biblical authority. This argument was one sided and you lost. Truthseeker was the only one who posed an educated argument, though isn’t it interesting how his argument was a copy and paste job from a previous argument already won by Beef? Not only did he not remember that Beef had already proven to him that he was wrong, but he didn’t even check the references given to him last time to validate the credibility of his own argument. If you don’t validate the claims, then what is the point of debating you? If you only listen to what you want to hear then there is absolutely no point.

        All those trapped in Babylon, will simply grow sleepier and sleepier and unless they begin to heed the cry of God’s watchmen in this hour to come out of her, or expose it, they will simply be pulled right into the delusion being created for its proper time; and they will accept it blindly.

        Good luck to you.

    • HaveFaithBeLove

      Vultures! It’s begun.

      The devil has been unleashed and who is He after? Anyone who believes in Jesus and God.

      Monsters on here. It’s really disgusting. Shame on you naughty boys. Shame shame. You are fulfilling bible prophecy but are too ignorant to know it.

    • HaveFaithBeLove

      You people really need to get a life. Spending so much time on matters that upset you. Where is the common sense in that??????

      While you get all fired up inside, people w Jesus, simply laugh AT YOU. Not w you.

      Truth. It shall set you free.

    • Love Ya

      revelations 12 and 14: the saved will be the ones keeping Yahuah’s commandments and have the testimony of Yahushua. you will be judged on your works, that’s at the end of the book of revelations. pursue peace with all people. God is love. don’t judge, grumble, complain, or hold grudges. it’s not so difficult, guys. be kind always to everyone. can you imagine if we treated each other with kindness. ah, beautiful! study your scriptures. save your eternal life. May HIS kingdom come. love and peace to all.

    • HerusaAustsaAusar

      Well, while you guys talk of Jesus, I have a story too. Im an Osirian as in Follower of Horus. Horus has an intersting story too.. He is the son of god, he came to earth thru a magical birth(Divine) to avenge his father who was killed by his jealous brother..Horus who was stricken by poison.. died and brought back to life to kill evil and take the throne of his father. Sounds familliar??? EXCEPT THIS IS OLDER ALOT OLDER THAN THE BIBLE(4000+ years older).. It is written in stone, ancient landmarks are all over to attest to that in Egypt. Furthermore, the bible is full of AMENS… which means “Hidden One” whom it seems most people pray too and Egyptian god of war Revelations 3:14, rev 19:11 God of WAR and Justice…white horse.. moving on, we all know too well Isaiah states Immanuel as the savior in 7:14 and Matthew also in 1:23 Immanuel. Not to argue with you on this point (there is no doubt). Moving on, Egypt will be given a savior in the end times.. see Isaiah 19:16-25 which clearly states Egypt my people, Assyria the work of my hands and Israel my inheritance.(sounds like modern day Middle East HUH??)… anyways.. the bible also ststes in more than a few places god will fight for HIS NAME (true name, not what anyone else calls him) HIS NAME alone not for the glory of the humans, but for his namesake… a rose called by anyothername is still a rose right???NOT…

      • Truthseeker007

        Very true HerusaAustsaAusar!!!

      • Scanner Darko

        @HerusaAustsaAusar: as a ‘Follow of Horus’ you, by default, are a follower of Satan. Despite the fact that you wrongly believe in the correct age that your satanic religion began, I’ll show you how your premise based on age doesn’t matter.

        [Amon] Ra – ‘ra’ is the Hebrew word for ‘evil’ – is the Egyptian creator sun god, mimicking the holy trinity as Ra, Osiris, and Horus (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). Unlike God who can perform miracles like the Immaculate Conception, Horus can only be incarnated into the physical body through occult practices and obelisk worship taught to civilization by the satanic rituals of Isis (Semiramis/Columbus), the mother/wife/sister of Osiris/Nimrod/Apollo. Egyptian mythology teaches us that Ra is murdered and Isis steals his power. Isis and Ra’s son Osiris fall in love, and together, they rule the world. One day Set, Osiris’ evil brother, murders Osiris with the help of the 72 undead kings/rulers of the Earth. Osiris is cut up into 14 pieces which are then thrown into the Nile and Isis manages to collect each one of them except for his phallus/penis. Isis then uses her knowledge from Ra’s secret teachings to reconstruct the phallus of Osiris into what we now know as the obelisk. The obelisk is then used to impregnate Isis to reproduce the spirit of Osiris, mainly named Horus/Apollo/the unholy spirit, who represents the all-seeing eye on the back of every U.S dollar bill. This ritual is symbolically demonstrated in Washington D.C., where a massive reflecting pool is situated between the world’s tallest obelisk and the Capitol Dome/womb. It is believed by some that this impregnation process has continued to this day. Manly P. Hall says, “Osiris will rise in splendor from the dead and rule the world through those sages and philosophers in whom wisdom has become incarnate.” The Egyptian Book of the Dead quotes Osiris saying, “I am Yesterday and I am today, and I have the power to be born a second time.”

        So Osiris, Horus, and Isis have much in common with the Biblical Nimrod, Tammuz, and Semiramis. According to legend, Nimrod (Osiris) had a wife named Semiramis (Isis/Columbia), whom bore a son by the name of Tammuz (Horus). After Nimrod’s death, Semiramis began preaching that Tammuz was Nimrod reborn. Nimrod becomes the satanic power behind Tammuz, Semiramis becomes the false prophet, and Tammuz takes on attributes of a false Christ. Semiramis declared that Tammuz was supernaturally conceived and that he was the savior of mankind. Semiramis knew of the story of a coming messiah, conceived through an occult virgin birth, and was sentenced to death only to be resurrected. Tammuz gains his power and authority because of Nimrod’s previous position. His mother proclaims that Nimrod has been reborn, so in a sense, Nimrod has been resurrected, and Tammuz is just the vessel he is using. After his death, Tammuz descends into the underworld and through the weeping of his mother he is resurrected in the form of vegetation. His death was celebrated by throwing a log into a fire and letting it burn all night. Once the log was burned up, they celebrated the resurrection of Tammuz by erecting and decorating a tree [obelisk - phallus], which is where we get the Yule Log and Christmas tree traditions. The Bible mentions Tammuz only once, but it is in reference to his death being part of pagan worship.

        Ezekiel 8:14-15: “Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord’s house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz. Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.”

        So Nimrod is the originator of the first major rebellion against God on Earth, just as Lucifer initiated the rebellion in heaven. After his death, Nimrod was deified as the god Baal [ball], just as Lucifer is referred to as the god of this world. This sheds light on why both God and Moses were so mad about the worshipping of Baal in Exodus 32. Baal worship extended all the way back to Babylon and was an abomination to God. Semiramis becomes the false prophet by getting people to worship Tammuz, just as the false prophet will get people to worship Satan through the antichrist. Some believe that Satan will bear a son that will become the antichrist (Genesis 3:15). Others believe that Satan will simply empower the antichrist. Yet another group believes that Satan will possess the man that is to become the antichrist. Either by design or coincidence, the Nimrod story contains all three views. Semiramis conceives Tammuz with Nimrod (Baal) who then inhabits and empowers his own son.

        Over time, Semiramis/Columbia/Isis became known as the Mother Goddess [mother earth – Gaia] and the Queen of Heaven, under names Ishtar, Eostre, Astarte, Ostera, and Eastre. All of these names are where we derive the word for, and the tradition of, Easter. Semiramis was associated with fertility and one symbol used to represent her was a rabbit. As time went on, Semiramis was said to have originally hatched from a giant egg, leaving us with the Easter egg as a permanent part of modern society which wrongly perceives Easter as a holiday connected to the Virgin Mary.

        When the Catholic Church came into power, they switched Semiramis with Mary as the Queen of Heaven, associated Easter with the resurrection of Christ, turned the Roman festival of Saturnalia (December 25th) into the birthday of Christ, and adopted the practices of log burning and decorating of trees as part of the celebration of Christ’s birth. Finally, in 321 A.D., Constantine the Great issues an edict to make Sun-day the official day of worship in order to appease Christians and sun worshippers. Sunday as a day of worship links back to the ancient practice of Babylonian sun worship. Because the Catholic Church adopted many of these pagan practices with their great power and influence and infused them into the Christian religion, the multitudes believe them to be true. Babylon has maintained a religious hold on all of society for thousands of years. It is where the very first human rebellion against God took place and, according to the Bible, it will also be the source of the very last human rebellion against God.

        • Love Ya

          wow to the troll patrol! loads of really factual history that most people probably don’t know about. thanks. beware of man-made traditions in your worship of the Most High.

    • HerusaAustsaAusar

      Let us NOT forget it was the Pharoah whom invited all ISRAEL into Goshon to dwell in safety and get taught by god his ways… then they left 400 years later with their golden calf too…and thats where the stories began… fake is fake, truth is truth…say what you want but do your own homework first. God gave them the land of Israel which is what people are so worried about as of late(JERUSALEM)…Im not sorry to say dont preach lies to me as I know the truth. The Judgement scene and the throne of god and all the things in the bible all come from EGYPTIANS.. check it out in the book of the dead otherwise known as the coming forth by day as in light… Good Luck

      • Omega Files

        May I direct you to the post from your lies on your previous comment.

    • Anonymous

      pixi you need to get some help with you mental health.I have been in the field for 30 plus years and you have major problems.

      • Omega Files

        We’ve all told Pix that she needs help. Unfortunately, souls aren’t saved through medication and therapy, but through the grace of God.

        Typically, even if it has no relation to the article, she will post a hateful message towards God and His followers. Once she is proven wrong, she leaves the article, never to come back to face the humiliation of knowing that she has made a conscious decision to reject God. I don’t think that she has a mental condition. I would more attribute it to a deep rooted hate for all things good. If you want to see what someone with a mental condition does on BIN, let me direct you to the articles posted by ‘King of Shambhala’, or the comments from ‘Universal Sign’:

        KOS’s articles (try not to laugh):
        /contributor/pages/15/190/bio.html

        Universal Sign’s comments:
        /alternative/2014/02/watch-bill-nyeken-ham-debate-live-right-here-feb-42014-2889814.html

        Those are mental conditions. What Pix has is hate.

        • Truthseeker007

          There is NO FOUNDATIONAL BASIS or logical reason for their belief that “The Bible is the infallible word of God and absolute literal truth. All men are sinners and the only way to God is through Jesus Christ. All who believe in Christ go to Heaven, while all who don’t go to Hell”. There is no good reason to believe such extreme things. And no basis for it at all. They were simply TOLD this “Gospel message”, and somehow, it gave them a sense of purpose or brought meaning into their empty chaotic lives, or it was what they needed to hear at that time, or it was what they were taught by their Christian families. So they accepted it, and once they did, it became absolute authority in their minds, above all questioning and skeptical inquiry, thus forming a complete circular loop in their train of thought which filtered their sense of reality so that all incoming data that fit with it was accepted, while all data that didn’t was rejected. Once this circular loop formed in their minds, they forget that there was NO REAL initial basis for their extreme beliefs in the first place!

          - Once the Christian believes that the Bible is infallible truth and authority, his/her mind becomes HIJACKED in that such a belief will place Christian teaching at the TOP of the hierarchy in their mind, with Truth becoming subservient to it. In other words, Truth must serve the Bible, not the other way around, so that all facts and data MUST conform to the Bible or be rejected. What this means it that the Bible and their beliefs can NEVER be questioned, even if it’s false, because it has occupied the highest seat of power in their minds. However, if Christians were to place Truth at the top, above the Bible, then they could question and analyze the Bible and see the obvious errors, contradictions and irresolvable problems with it. But instead, they place Christianity above Truth, so that their beliefs can never be questioned no matter how absurd, thus creating a completely closed and circular loop. This is the epitome of “brainwashing”. Thus, in a sense, the Gospel is like a “trojan horse” that offers the newly converted everything, at the expense of hijacking and imprisoning their own mind.

          - Just because an ancient set of books written by ancient unknown authors says something does NOT mean that it must be true, any more than a random book I pull out from the library must be true. Text in ancient books is not proof of absolute inerrant truth, especially when it contains so many contradictions, errors and far-fetched legends. Besides, there are many ancient books from all throughout history, so why do you not believe that all of them are infallible divine truth too?

          - Just because someone, a believer himself, tells you that Christian teaching is absolute truth does NOT make it so, any more than any other belief system must be true because someone says so, or any more than the email spam and scams you receive everyday must be true because it says so.

          - Think about this: If I pulled out a random book in the library and said “This is absolute infallible truth and cannot be questioned because God wrote it”, does that make it true? Or suppose I were to write this in a book: “The Gobblygook Monster created us. He is perfect, righteous and infallible, while we are all condemned sinners. He says that the only way to him is through his son, the Gobblygook Son, who died for your sins and rose from the dead. His disciples witnessed his resurrection and were willing to die for it, so it must be true. Your eternal destiny lies upon whether you accept this or not.” Would that make it true?! Think man!

          Winston Wu

        • BEEF SUPREME

          Also written by your man Mr. Wu are such trite and hackneyed quips like this nifty gem:

          “So you see, your reasoning is completely circular but you don’t realize it. Such is the effect of mind control.”

          Right. Life would be a dream for you “atheists” and enemies of the Most High if you could only convince yourselves that things were truly as simple as that. Institutions have been founded and myriad doctorates have been awarded all in the furtherance of studying and trying to best comprehend what your Mr. Wu and fellows like him seek to impugn and to dismiss at the wave of a hand and a few well-weaved words.

          Facts are stubborn things, 007. They do not melt into a puddle or fall to dust in the face of baseless and inane indictments, no matter how ‘expertly’ crafted those indictments are handed down. You can line up 10,000 Mr. Wu’s against the wall, and given their best efforts, they will be able to achieve precisely zero lasting effect against the impregnable, impermeable, invincible TRUTH which is found written across the pages of Scripture.

          The choice has been set before you, 007. And you have chosen unwisely.

        • Omega Files

          You obviously don’t read what anybody else posts. Anybody who reads Truthseekers007′s sack of lies should read all the posts on this comment thread.

      • Anonymous

        when you effwits can come back with some supporting evidence for your delusions, maybe youll convince the healthy skeptics… its no wonder youve been associated with mental health for decades, you sound like a right proper head case.

    • Wretched Infidel

      Hey John, is this one in there too? It also pertains to what you are saying:

      Malachi 22 And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.

      2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name (this one personal Name, the Name of IAUE which the prophets, messiah and disciples were taught and used in their worship of IAUE),

      saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.

      3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it.

    • Wretched Infidel

      and this: For ignoring the brotherly covenant of Yahuweh (IAUE), this is going to happen, as prophesied.

      IAUE deals first in judgment with his specific people who were given the ways of IAUE by IAUE’s angel, Yahushua himself:

      That is, He deals first with Israel, which is not only tiny nation Israel, but the descendants of ancient Israel who wer taken captive into the Assyrian lands, who never made it back .. even now, they are not aware of their identity, who make up the nations of Western Europen, from whom the European colonizers of America sailed.

      What did we do, we who were shown the mercies of IAUE, who led the slaves of the Hebrews out of Egypt? We sailed to America to live in freedom from tyranny, and we terrorized the inhabitants, lying, stealing, misleading and murdering their people until we overran, abused and destroyed their land and abused and destroyed their peoples.

      Then, we enslaved black people from Africa our of our evil and greed, giving full brutal reign to the devil, our God (Saturn, Molech, whom the same ancient Israelites were enslaved for also worshipping).

      Do we think that IAUE is NOW pleased with this same worship and these same fruits? Look at what we have all done while under the doctrines of this demonic God/Lord/Jesus/Christ: We have ruined the inhabitants of the land who trusted us and helped us or else we had died; we have exploited and destroyed the land itself with the cruelty of greed, and the love of destruction and bloodshed and evil.
      . It will come, it will all come, blood, fire, floods and brimstone, fire from heaven, pestilence and earthquakes, war and famine. We have shown our fruits, displayed the ruination to all, and we will now reap the whirlwind, which is IAUE’s judgment

      Micah: chapter 1, 3-7

      3 For, behold, the LORD (properly, IAUE, Yahuweh) cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth.

      4 And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.

      5 For the transgression of Jacob is all this, and for the sins of the house of Israel.

    • Wretched Infidel

      4 And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.
      5 For the transgression of Jacob is all this, and for the sins of the house of Israel. What is the transgression of Jacob? is it not Samaria? and what are the high places of Judah? are they not Jerusalem?
      6 Therefore I will make Samaria as an heap of the field, and as plantings of a vineyard: and I will pour down the stones thereof into the valley, and I will discover the foundations thereof.
      7 And all the graven images thereof shall be beaten to pieces, and all the hires thereof shall be burned with the fire, and all the idols thereof will I lay desolate: for she gathered it of the hire of an harlot, and they shall return to the hire of an harlot.
      Micah 2
      2 Woe to them that devise iniquity, and work evil upon their beds! when the morning is light, they practise it, because it is in the power of their hand.

      2 And they covet fields, and take them by violence; and houses, and take them away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage. (think: Indians, the natives: Black Africans kidnapped and sold to European plantation ‘owners’ living off the stolen land of the natives…!

      3 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, against this family do I devise an evil, from which ye shall not remove your necks; neither shall ye go haughtily: for this time is evil.

      4 In that day shall one take up a parable against you, and lament with a doleful lamentation, and say, We be utterly spoiled: he hath changed the portion of my people: how hath he removed it from me! turning away he hath divided our fields.

      Micah 3 (King James Version)

      and ye princes of the house of Israel; Is it not for you to know judgment?
      2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;

      3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.

      4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.

      5 Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.

      6 Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.

      Harsh? No, Long suffering, according the multitudes of His tender mercies… if it were me, I would have torched them all long long ago….

    • Truthseeker007

      Christian Fundamentalist doctrines and precepts

      Therefore, as a result of this version of history, basic Fundamentalist Christian theology can be broken down like this. You can find a similar outline to this in most Gospel tracts and preaching material:

      God is holy, righteous and perfect.
      Mankind is sinful by nature.
      God, being perfect and holy, cannot associate with sinful Man. Therefore, sin separates God and Man.
      Jesus Christ, the son of God, died on the cross for the sins of mankind.
      By believing in him and accepting him as Lord and Savior, one can have their sins washed away and made right with God. Otherwise, if one dies without accepting Christ, then he/she will spend an eternity in hell in everlasting neverending torment (though some of them try to sugarcoat it, that’s what they believe literally, this includes Billy Graham too).
      Accepting Jesus is the only way to God.
      All the above is true because the holy scriptures of the Bible say so.
      Anything that contradicts or doesn’t fit in with the above is false and/or of Satan.

      It’s as simple as that. These precepts of Fundamentalist Christianity are not only very extreme, but completely circular in nature, and contain numerous flaws as well, which we will get into later.

      One big problem with Evangelical Christianity in general is that it makes VERY EXTREME CLAIMS, especially the one about all non-Christians who don’t believe in its gospel will spend an eternity in hell in everlasting torment.. To go around proclaiming such a thing to others, threatening them with a literal eternal neverending state of torment is perhaps the most extreme claim in the world. Of course, such a claim is going to result in severe counterattacks, backlash and controversy from those who disagree! What do these Evangelists expect? The problem is that they expect rational intelligent sane people to believe such extreme claims just because they point to some verses in the Bible that say so, which is absurd to anyone except them! What they fail to understand and realize is that JUST BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SOMETHING DOESN’T MEAN IT’S TRUE! That is the BOTTOM LINE. Showing people Bible verses to support their assumptions is not proof or evidence. Text and words printed in a book do not constitute proof. Now and throughout history, millions of books have been written, but that doesn’t mean that everything in them is true! They know that, but the problem is they don’t apply it to their own beliefs too.

      Though they fervently believe that all non-Christians are going to hell, they simply CAN’T PROVE OR DEMONSTRATE IT. They present zero evidence that there is a Judgment Day that everyone who ever lived will stand before, where those who accepted Christ will enter into heaven while those who didn’t will be thrown in hell. All they present are words and text in a book. Yet they expect people to believe it, take it seriously, and change their lives for it! In effect, this extreme claim is in the “out there” realm which can neither be proven nor disproven. Pointing to text in a book is no kind of evidence, though they think otherwise. The problem is, they expect rational sane people to simply believe it, because “the Bible says so”. That is totally unrealistic. If you expect people to change their lives for this claim just in case it might be true, because what about all the other extreme claims out there? Should everyone change their lives for them too, just in case they “might” be true?
      http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/DebunkingChristians/Page2.htm

    • Truthseeker007

      Hard Questions and Common Sense

      Besides, how do they know that God is 100 percent righteous and just? Because the Bible says so? And that alone makes it true?! Gee, what low standards. I mean, how do they know that Satan isn’t the good guy and God the bad guy? They don’t! All they can do is believe whatever someone TELLS them, and labels the rest as “lies of Satan”. But life teaches us that things are not always what they seem, life teaches us. They simply take it on faith, that the Bible is all true because it is, and that’s that. It’s the weakest logic of all.

      Also, why does Lucifer/Satan wanting a little freedom when he was an angel of God make him 100 percent evil? Teenagers naturally want some freedom from their parents too, but does that make them 100 percent evil and demonic? You see how nonsensical all of this is? Nothing in the Christian fundamentalist version of reality makes the slightest bit of sense…

      Plus, if I were an all-knowing God and knew BEFORE I created the world that the majority of the people on Earth would suffer through life and end up in the eternal torment of hell afterward (since most people do not become Christians in their lifetime), I would certainly not create such a world. No sane person would create something knowing in advance that the bad that would come out of it would far exceed the good. No sane person would go through with that, let alone an all-wise God. Think about it: If you knew before setting up a business that you’d incur a loss of $75,000 and reap only $25,000 in profit (based on 1/4 of the world’s population claiming to be Christians), would you go through with it? Get real.

      So you see, nothing about the Christian version of reality makes any sense at all, in any way at all, once you look at it with a clear mind free of fear and mind control. There are way too many irresolvable problems with it.

      In fact, many ex-Christians report in their deconversion testimonials that while they were believers, such logical impossibilities and unresolvable questions as the above, kept entering their minds from time to time. But since they could not be satisfactorily explained away, they had to be mentally filed away on a mental shelf labeled “Unresolvable”. However, eventually, such unresolvable questions accumulated until they became too heavy to ignore and deny any longer. At some point, their “mental shelf” simply broke and they could no longer live in denial anymore. It was only then, that the mind control imposed on them by Christianity broke down, and they were finally set free from it.

      (One great example of this is my friend Darryl Sloan, an aware skeptic, freethinker and author who described many such logical impossibilities in Christianity in his YouTube videos, which you can see at http://www.youtube.com/darrylsloan. And my own Christian deconversion story is at http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Christian_Story.htm)

      http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Christian_Problems.htm

      • Neo

        You’ve got the essential bits of the gospel right and they are simple, even easy enough for you to understand. However, nowhere does the bible say “all non-Christians are going to hell”. I don’t believe that, but having known the truth and rejected it, I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes.
        Satan wanting a little freedom?? You have lost your mind. I can see that nothing about YOUR version of the Christian version of reality makes any sense at all.

        The gospel IS simple: turn away from evil or face the consequences.

        • Truthseeker007

          You have just confirmed what I posted.Thanks!! little do you know but when you study ethymology Satan was origianlly Saturn. So you are blaming all the flaws of the world on a planet!! Don’t you feel stupid now?

        • Omega Files

          In ‘etymology’ throughout all cultures, many deities were worshiped as planets as a way to ‘harvest’ spiritual energy. You aren’t very smart for being the arrogant prick that you are. If you don’t believe in Satan then I would suggest that you would be much greater off trolling other non-religious articles to post your copied-and-pasted lies.

          You’ll be the one feeling pretty stupid once you are judge for your working of iniquity.

    • Truthseeker007

      Bible Numerical Problems

      II Samuel 8:4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: and David houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them for an hundred chariots.

      I Chronicles 18:4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: David also houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them an hundred chariots.

      II Samuel 10:18 And the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand horsemen, and smote Shobach the captain of their host, who died there.

      I Chronicles 19:18 But the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen, and killed Shophach the captain of the host

      II Samuel 23:8 These be the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite: he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.

      I Chronicles 11:11 And this is the number of the mighty men whom David had; Jashobeam, an Hachmonite, the chief of the captains: he lifted up his spear against three hundred slain by him at one time.

      II Samuel 24:13 So Gad came to David, and told him, and said unto him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land? or wilt thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue thee? or that there be three days’ pestilence in thy land?…

      I Chronicles 21:11-12 So Gad came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the Lord, Choose thee either three years’ famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes…or else three days the sword of the Lord, even the pestilence, in the land…

      Wow talk about contradictions from the ” infalable Bible”!!! There are many many more!! See somemore here:

      http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/bible/numeric.shtml

    • David Montaigne

      There are very specific clues, if you have eyes to see and ears to hear.
      Many Bible references are astronomical clues to various heavenly bodies reaching certain positions.
      http://endtimesand2019.webs.com/

    • Rip

      Some Christian preachers keep brainwashing their followers. The fact is that those Christian preachers are the real sinners. Beware of those Christian preachers who call extraterrestrials demons. Beware of those Christian preachers. They are the real demons. Wake-up dearly beloved Christians. Think for yourselves.

      • Omega Files

        “Beware of those Christian preachers who call extraterrestrials demons”

        Show me how they are not demons

        • Wretched Infidel

          Omega, I know what you are saying, I used to also think that all ET’s were demons – but now, I think that they are both kinds, as angels can be good, or bad (demonic angels = Demonic spirits, or ET’s)

          Yes, they could actually also be physical ? who know how to move that fast without destroying their bodies, or bending time/space – and be physical beings (like us) who live on another planet… of course that is possible – but – I just prefer now to believe that the evidence supports they are spirits, who can manifest, and angels have done that, anciently and today, we are told about them in the Bible, and warned to test them all. To see if they are saying truth, or lies.

          That right there would seem to prove that some are good! See what I mean? Go by everything, not just part of the picture…

        • Omega Files

          Wretched, I have no doubt that there are angels of the Lord. But, any entity channeling its victim human, claiming to be an extraterrestrial, is not an angel of the Lord.

          If it was an angel of the Lord, it would come in the name of Jesus and, yes, we would test them for their spirit. However, 99.99% of the time, the entity being channeled is not representing the Holy Spirit.

    • Wretched Infidel

      for Omega, when you say, Wretched, I have no doubt that there are angels of the Lord. (Do you mean IAUE? Yah?)

      But, any entity channeling its victim human, claiming to be an extraterrestrial, is not an angel of the Lord. (well, if they say they are an angel of the Lord, and do not say IAUE’s name, and just say ‘Lord’, that is one huge tipoff they are demons. Ask them things. Ask who sent them and what their message is. They should normally already have told you this before you even had to ask. That is what angels of Yah in the Bible did when they appeared to humans. and channel any lies, you know they are demons. But – first you have to know the truth, to know whether they ARE telling you any lies. And you have to know what the LIES ARE TOO! (Yes, “This is a test!’ , but it is deadly serious! Spirits posing as angels of light want you neck!)

      And Omega, I have to tell you some more truth becuase you are under a false impression from your Church teachings, which is terribly deadly for you:

      “If it was an angel of the Lord, it would come in the name of Jesus ” No, according to the manuscripts which your Bible was made from, this is FALSE – the false messiah will be worshipped and one of his names is Jesus. If any entity or angel comes to any of you, and says they are from Jesus, RUN AWAY. RUN AWAY IMMEDIATELY, OR COMMAND THEM TO GET BACK AWAY FROM YOU AND YOURS.

      Now, if you have never heard the true name of IAUE (Yah) then, they may take that into consideration and if they are good, they will let you know this: “We are from IAUE (Iahuweh, Yahweh): we come in Yah’s name, or Yahushua’s name, – who you have been wrongly taught is named ‘Jesus’… but no, we are sent by IAUE (Yahweh) whose son’s name is His Father’s, which is and always was, Yahushua.”

      Do you see? This is vital. You need to all learn these vital facts or you will be taken.

      “…and, yes, we would test them for their spirit. ” Good but How would you?

      However, 99.99% of the time, the entity being channeled is not representing the Holy Spirit.

      Now that is another thing that is wrong. Sorry, I know this is hard maybe for you to hear all at once, but the time is running short so I cannot see how it is good for me to withhold these things you need to know, and prove to yourselves as the truth they are, quicly.

      The thing you call ‘Holy Spirit’ is actually a bad entity, it is a bad demonic name of a God who is against you all. The spirit of Holi, was and is vicious and a murderous evil demon.

      Now if you mean the Spirit of Truth, Life and Love, that is the Spirit of Yah (IAUE) and Yahushua.

      You need to look up facts about the historical proof of the Name which as been hidden from us all, and it has been done to keep us in a vulnerable ignorant position of fatal consequences. Perhaps eternally fatal. It is up to you, each one, to read and prove them – and to do this, you have to love truth and be brave enough to forgo many comforting lies you have been steeped in up to this point. Don’t worry, though, please, Omega – the ‘comforts’ of the enemy are terrible, compared tothe truth of IAUE and his Real Messiah, Yahushua.

      Yahshua. Never Jesus, Never Y’shua, never Ye-shua, which mean the Goat Saves.

      Never those wrong and insidiously evil substitutes. The Goat God is the Sun God, which is Saturn. Ask any Satanist who knows their salt. Ancient or modern, if they are educated, they all know these are the one and same God, who also is worshipped incognito by the poor misled Chiristian flocks… leading them to the slaughte.r We are warned about doing this in the Scriptures, yes, I go by the King James version, even though it has many errors, it is one of the best translations and you can find out what is wrong very easily. All it takes is some study. Diligent study. (commanded, for this is necessary not to be deluded and taken by this insidious, subtle deception of the enemy posing as an angel of Light/truth.

      Hey, we are all in this together. We learn, we change, we act on what we learn, – or we go down. That is not the plan for us from Yahuweh (IAUE).

      Pray to Him like Abraham did – he erected an altar on the way out in the desert with Yah’s ancient paleo Hebraic name the four vowels – I A U E pronounced Ee Ah Huw eh

      or Ia Huh ah

      Like that. Ask everything as we are told by Yahushua in the New Testament as he taught his disciples and the people his Father’s Name – he had to, again – for they were not using it – per traditions of evil men and demons –

      in his name, which contains his Father’s name in his: Yah + shua. or Yahu + shua.
      It MUJST have the YAH SOUND in it though. Please be certain that comes out, never Ye.

      Do you have any quesitons? I will try to come here tomorrow if you do. KNow that althogh these things can be slightly unsettling, there is no reason to fear facts. They are our salvation. We are to dig them up from obscurity where they are buried to our detriment, and claim them as ours for they were originally given to the humans – but their own desires and those of the lying priesthood resulted in their becoming discarded. Now these are the days prophesied of old, in our generation that IAUE will make all secrets known, and rain His spirit (not the Holy Spirit) down upon all FLESH…

      IT IS NOW! Alright, I must leave, but peace, love and truth to you, and may IAUE bless you for your seeking Him and His truth and real Messiah.

      • Omega Files

        @Wretched Infidel… I really appreciate your long and well thought out response. I have studied many aspects of Scripture but the name of ‘Yahushua’ has never been something that has drawn my attention. Your argument is very persuasive and I will conduct my own investigation to see if I come up with the same name.

        My point was this:

        Rip said: “Beware of those Christian preachers who call extraterrestrials demons”… This implies that the writer shows compassion for ‘extraterrestrials’. If you believe beings that call themselves ‘extraterrestrials’ are angels of Yahushua then we will simply have to disagree.

        But like I said, I will look into our Lords true name. I found that to be very interesting and it is definitely something that I should know better.

        • Wretched Infidel

          Dear Omega, I have not been here for a while, I apologise, and see that you are a man who values truth, whom Yah loves, and Yahushua loves. There are many things that I would like to give to you, books, 2 or 3 right now, which I find to be the best, (not perfect, but very very close, to perfection as we can get with falliblle human beings and their different foibles and strenghts in areas and weaknesses and lack of information in other areas.) For instance, Omega, the first one is a book written over a 100 years ago, by an English preacher, Alexander Hislop, have you heard of his book? It is a monumental work of classic research, and the Catholic Church banned it from their laity’s reading list!! He used the excavations of his colleages in archeology, Austin Henry Layard, in excavations of Nineveh, and Sir Wilkinson, and others in Egyptian excavations and archeology, and Sumer…also the beliefs of the Druids he shed light on from many angles, history always corroborates the Bible, I have found, with some exceptions, but this is what it is: If/When there is a contradiction, (and indeed there are quite a few…) there is either a lack of information on our part, on someone’s part, or a mistake in translation (men’s fallibility) a lack of knowledge/facts – or someone, somewhere has LIED.

          The other books are also free to download on the web, they are (and the first one has a huge mistake but I will tell you about that tomorrow, Omega, it is only in the latter chapters)
          everything else it is factual: The Sacred Name Yahweh, by R. Clover, Covina California, by Qadesh la Yahweh Press. It is excellent, and amazing.

          The other book is a paperback you can buy and also download, called Come Out Of Her, My People, by C. J. Koster, out of South AFrica… it is totally scriptural….

          I will come here tomorw to esxplain more about that other man’s mistake…but as they say, we ought not to throw the baby out with the bath water and he has done an otherwise amazing job at his research

          May Yahweh (IAUE) bless you richly, Omega.

          Goodnight and Shalom, and L’Chaim and Peace from Virginia

        • Omega Files

          Thank you very much for those books. I’ll put them at the top of my ‘to read’ list and I’ll be back to see what you have to say about the mistake in that second book.

          May Yahweh bless you as well.

        • Wretched Infidel

          Dear Omega! Again I apologise, caught up and not getting to this most important thing, I just got in here now and see that you have been here before me, (was kind of worried that you may not see my late answer since it has been so long, and am SO GLAD that you came by! I don’t have internet myself, so that is why I get here so randomly and sometimes hardly at all!, but thank Yah you have, and you did, and I will try to do much better! I came in to try to get you the links, from here. Can do it one at a time it seems, not 3 at once, so the first book, the Alexander Hislop one, is here! You can print it out or you could buy it from Barnes and Noble, they ordered mine years ago which I found that you need to ask them to make sure it is the ‘LARGE TRADE PAPER’ being larger than usual, it is easier to handle and read, it is paperback but very easy to read, not a small page, like i think it is rather like as big as a piece of typing paper almost, maybe not so high, but as wide. It is white, and from Louiseaux Brothers Press, I think. here is that link, so you can see how you like it and print out a copy free before you buy it if you like! I love this man. He did so much work studious and diligent over a century ago, and if he were still alive now, he would love what the purple book haas to give us in additional discoveries (like about the name, he did not know it himself, but it became more known after his death, unfortunately, so, if he had known that too, he would have been so pleased, fascinated about that whole truth/aspect of our Creator/s which they have deliberately kept tamped tightly down! (kept the lid on so to speak, damn them ‘pious Church Fathers’ lies to the people). Even William Tyndale said in his preface of the Bible translation which was very early, I forgot the date, (in the 1600′s?) ‘Whereever thou shalt see the name God or Lord, or LORD Lord God, properly read Iyoue (he spelled it differently but with the same sound as Yahuweh, or Iahuweh, from those four vowels, I A U E in Paleo Hebrew). Imagine this, Omega, that that ancient man who devoted his life to the Bible’s correct translation, knew the titles were mere substitutions, and should not properly be read instead of the Name which was originally taken out by men, (f or their own peculiar reasons against Yah’s commandments) said this in his own preface, instruction to read instead the Name properly enunciated as he spelled it out, – this has been entirely left out of the bibles we use today! – It is amazing, the lengths to which leaders in religion have gone to keep this a secret from us, to malign it, when we learn of it, and denigrate its importance to us, in direct opposition to what Yahuwah said in this Bible? What?! My mind is blown, always when I care to think about it, (like coming in here today to talk to you about this, forces me to think about it, thankfully. It is highly upsetting to think about, but – we have to face it, because to Yah Himself, and His Son, who speaks Yah’s words, not his own, and carries his Father’s name, and lamented ‘I come in My Father’s Name, and ye reject me; if ANOTHER come in his own name, HIM YE WILL ACCEPT!’ (how did he say this? with Chagrin, with sadness, with amazement, with bitterness, with tragic anguish in his heart?? I don’t know, we can only imagine what he felt at this tragedy of our pride and the black magic power or hold the deception of our enemies

        • Wretched Infidel

          (sorry, that froze up and i had to try to send it like that before finishing at least i didn’t lose it all)

          the power of the enemies’ successful charade of ‘truth’-bringers (or light-bearers) over our minds, to have this effect – that we reject him, our real actual saviour, as well as rejection of his Father, (in all ways, really, we honour the other, the enemy and his false saviour-figure when you count all the ways that people have been taught to worship their God and/or saviour-figure, they are not at all in the ways Yah and Yahushua gave to the people to do, but just the opposite – they do what they both said NOT to do in the worship of this Deity we have been told by them to simply call God, or Father, or Lord. They wanted to take away the power of the Creators’ name, which gives us protection, increases life, heals disease, heals the mind, battles in spiritual realm for us. Why would they do that? What are they so negative for, or why do they not want us to have blessings which can only be got thru the doing of the whole will of Yahuweh, (which Yahushua taught in truth, and in spirit to the people and they were listening! They knew it was different than anything they had ever heard/learned!)
          It is because of only one thing: Those leaders, these leaders, in religion, (Rabbis, steeped in Talmudic traditions of men and affiliated/bound to the spirit of lies in worship of the Master of Lies – for they did not worship Yah, but the Solar God, (Astral/Planetary God or ‘Gods’) and the leaders of that same religion, (Solar) on the Christian side or non-Judaic side, (call them Pagan, heathen, Goyim, nations, devotees of the (usually) triune Solar Deity worldwide)then and now, today – feel threatened. Why do they feel threatened by the truth, or by this other teaching? (they don’t feel threatened by any of the various sects of Solar Deity worship, (CAtholic, Protestant, Hindu, Buddhist, Judaism Zoroastrianism, etc.). They all get along pretty well, no one makes much of an issue of the different groups’ choices of doctrine. They may change churches, yes. or convert, but the doctrines of all those religions are accepted and not hidden. Why is the religion of the Bible spiked by Christians and Jews? Because they have an inherent aversion to the truth I think, which is seen in their actions and words when the subject is brought up, as questions from their laity, members’ curiousity may lead them to question ‘Why is it that it says this but we do that other thing instead?’ This is first met with dismissive statements which have no validity if you read the bible; if one continues, ‘But,… doesn’t it say……?” They may begin to start getting impatient/hostile in their responses, more authoritarian-toned, in order to intimidate you from presseing for real answers to your questions. This is wrong, anti-biblical, and this overt abusive way of shutting people down for their asking questions, is to me, the definite sign of whom they worship. Yah never wished us to not ask questions, on the contrary, He commanded us and warned us not to trust in man, (what he told you is truth) but to seek, study diligently, to see if ‘those things be so’ to prove everything, letting every question of Scriptures be established by 2 or 3 witnesses (places in the Bible/manuscripts). This is going to require we ask any queston we think is important to have an accurate answer to; to prevent that questioning is to deny people their right and to put an obstacle to their learning the truth is a very very heinous sin! It is in short, the exact method of evil people to control other people: withold truth, deny them free will, prevent them from realizing their full potential. It is Omega, the way of Satanists – I am not exaggerating, – (I come from these people) – and after you read these facts withheld from us, and consider how things have been done, (to us, taught to us, kept from us) you will probably conclude after much study of Satanism, as well, that the religion we have been fed by these priests, preachers, ministers, bishops and nuns, pastors and Rabbis, is only the worship of Satan under another name, and in disguise as the Light-bringer. But then again, Omega, you probably already know that or suspected this at some point or at some level, because in the Bible, this was told to us beforehand. Our Creators (Yahuweh and The WordsYahushua, his son and our Messiah, warn and warn, plead and warn, instruct, command, reasson and declare that this is a war we are in and our enemy poses as our friend, saviour and Father, yet, the outcome of falling for the beautifully-constructed lies (emotional exploitative, which is such a dirty tactic and so unfair to do to suffering people) is the destruction of all the people Yah and Yahushua made and love. Why? Evil has no good reason. Why do the priesthood of Satan not want us to have truth and life, as Yah wants us to have? Again, evil has no reason, no valid reason – it just is, it exists, and its main arena of the most power is in religion. Then, it is society, and health. But religion is primal and since we are made with the purpose of Yah and Yahushua to commune with them, when we adopt a system of another spirit (especially one of death) that spirit may feel like ‘truth’ but it kills the person steadily because of communion with another wrong entity; that binds us to the spirit doing the lying/deception we adopt, therefore it causes us to become blinded to truth sometimes to the point of sheer psychopathic degrees. That is why I think that threse religious leaders act the horrible way they do towards this vital truth, one of many, in the truth of Yahuweh and Yahushua. It makes them hostile, illogical and even outraged… and they themselves even do not know why sometimes; it is the effect of having been initiated into communion with another spirit, other than the One we were designed to commune with: Yahuweh and Yahushua – (share the same spirit, of truth, love, and life…). Guess what Omega? they are actually closing here in a few minutes so I cannot even stay to see if you can get this, and it is too long, I am sorry, here is that one link,http://ia701209.us.archive.org/10/items/theTwoBabylons/TheTwoBabylons.pdf
          and I will try to come again maybe in the next two days, if I possible can, in the meantime, please know that I am thinking and asking Yah to bless you and your family and all the people here richly for you are beloved and all the angels of Yah and Yahushua love you all too, beyond comprehension, this information and more they want more than anything to be had by all the peoploe of the world, esp now. He will in the latter days, as He said, rain down ‘I will rain down My Spirit upon all flesh”. … Take ye the ancient paths, strait, when ye fall to the right or the left, I will holpen thee with a littel help’… ‘Let not the unuch say in his heart, I am a lone tree/vine/branch, … I know those who love Me, who take hold of my Sabbaths, to pollute not my sancuary, and in that day (of burning) I will save them, and give them a name better than of sons and of daughters”. (! sos sorry I messed it up mixed them up, they are rushing here)
          and I will save him as a Father saveth his only son who serveth thee” (Malachi)

          Thank you and bless you, all, Omega
          Peace and blessings from Yahuweh

        • Omega Files

          I have a hard time calling you ‘wretched’ so I will abbreviate your salutation to ‘WI’.

          Dear WI,

          It is most interesting how I came across this message. I would have never seen it if I hadn’t checked the ‘recent comments’ section shortly after you posted to see your ‘Dear Omega’ introduction. I am a rather new student to Scripture so I took this as a sign from Yahushua to pay close attention to your message as you are also the one who turned me towards the revelation of His name – which I am very grateful for. Thank you so much for the time that you took to formulate that message. Without internet at your disposal, I can only imagine how difficult it must be to spend your limited internet availability time wisely. I intend on reading that Hislop book as soon as I get a moment to do so – I’ve found it on Amazon for a few dollars. I’ve read many other books that have referenced this piece so it would absolutely appear to be a must read for me. Your message for me was powerful and I hold it close to my heart. May Yahushua bless you with all His Might. You and your family hold a special place in my prayers and I hope that He provides you and those you count on with the tools you’ll need to overcome the spiritual wickedness that is about to be unleashed on this world.

          “Imagine this, Omega, that that ancient man who devoted his life to the Bible’s correct translation, knew the titles were mere substitutions, and should not properly be read instead of the Name which was originally taken out by men, (f or their own peculiar reasons against Yah’s commandments) said this in his own preface, instruction to read instead the Name properly enunciated as he spelled it out, – this has been entirely left out of the bibles we use today! – It is amazing, the lengths to which leaders in religion have gone to keep this a secret from us, to malign it, when we learn of it, and denigrate its importance to us, in direct opposition to what Yahuwah said in this Bible? What?! My mind is blown, always when I care to think about it, (like coming in here today to talk to you about this, forces me to think about it, thankfully. It is highly upsetting to think about, but – we have to face it, because to Yah Himself, and His Son, who speaks Yah’s words, not his own, and carries his Father’s name, and lamented ‘I come in My Father’s Name, and ye reject me; if ANOTHER come in his own name, HIM YE WILL ACCEPT!’ (how did he say this? with Chagrin, with sadness, with amazement, with bitterness, with tragic anguish in his heart?? I don’t know, we can only imagine what he felt at this tragedy of our pride and the black magic power or hold the deception of our enemies.”

          In close relation to what you wrote here, I posted an article on here on the tradition of Santa Claus which you might be interested in (I also wrote one that pertains to our introduction involving the ‘aliens’). After paying very close attention to your words, it has become clear to me that you are someone who is very close to Yahushua’s heart. I want you to know that I really do value what you say. There are very few positive influences in my life so I count on people much like yourself to correct the course of my studies. I am 24 years old and wasn’t awakened to the Truth until just two years ago. Messiah has been quickly catching me up to speed but, as you know, there is still much for me to learn in the short time that remains. The Hebrew story of creation cannot be viewed as an isolated account known only to the ancient Jews. Rather, it is a story that has been mimicked and copied by very many other cultures, some of which could not have seen the Hebrew writings before developing their own versions of the basic story. That stories with similar elements sprang up in very different cultures around the world suggests that these stories have a common origin, with the Biblical account arguably the most accurate due to the unique pains that were taken in keeping the stories true to the original Word. Please note that the scribes copying the various books of the Old and New Testaments did so with strict supervision and careful checking by the scribe as well as those working with him to avoid errors. Where many cultures rewarded the embellishment of stories, the Jewish writers worked in the opposite direction: the stories were never to be altered even by punctuation. It’s sad because, all our churches have chosen to remain in the Babylonian system and because of that, the True Meat of Yahuweh’s Word is NOT being preached, taught, and revealed by these pastors. How are these preachers going to hear the His instruction for what to do in this late hour if they don’t realize the lateness of the hour? Whether they have succumbed to the temptations of Satan or have been duped, these preachers have been told to ignore any gloomy, end-times prophecy because such teaching is generally not allowed in academia or supported by those who provide funding for the ministry. Now more than any other generation since the creation of man, we will need to walk by faith and faith alone if we are to survive. Few will make it to the end. Most will either die in doubt or completely turn their back to Him. All those trapped in Babylonian mindset, will simply grow sleepier and sleepier and unless they begin to heed the cry of the watchmen in this hour to come out of her they will simply be pulled right into the delusion being created for its proper time; and they will accept it blindly.

          “They wanted to take away the power of the Creators’ name, which gives us protection, increases life, heals disease, heals the mind, battles in spiritual realm for us. Why would they do that?”

          So if an atheist and a believer in Yahushua examine the same data but come to different conclusions, why is one called science and the other called faith? Evolution has detached man from his creator and being created in Yahuweh’s image and likeness and is nothing more than a religion that enables people to justify writing their own rules. Therefore, man sees himself as the captain of his own destiny. He is going to overcome death, disease, decay, and other human limitations that prevent us from transcendence. Rather than live with the image of Yahuweh that he has and received the cure for his fallen state, man would rather pretend that He does not exist and attempt his own cure. Even the difference in the sexes is no longer considered to be ‘God-given’. Mankind is racing toward changing the very image that we were created in to disconnect us from the Holy Spirit forever. The Creator himself has invited us all to examine, search, explore, and reveal His Word. The Messiah knows that those who sincerely do this with a humble heart, and those who do this with their soul intent on truly discovering the Truth; those will indeed discover Him. The Messiah is not afraid of our examination of His Word, nor does He condemn it. In fact, He provided the ultimate platform, through the Bible, to facilitate our examination of Him. The secular worldview, powered by evolution and false doctrine, finds itself void of any intellectual fuel. With an examination of this evidence, it becomes clear that YHWH Elohim’s hand is dominant and constant in creation, and no other explanation in the world stands in this scientific age. The written Word alone explains who we are and who Messiah is. It is soothing to the mind, spirit, and soul because we have the answers; and it is also sobering because we will all be held accountable for the knowledge that we have been given. We will not be able to claim ignorance, for we have been exposed to the evidence. We are either for Messiah or against Him; there is no middle ground. The evidence and Truth, being so clear, removes any claim of a middle ground. Therefore, those of us who have experienced the Messiah’s heavenly gift – who have been ‘born again’ and filled with the Holy Spirit – cannot travel down that old dirt road which leads to some vague intelligent designer theory. We, as believers, simply cannot leave open-ended questions and speculation on creation; we cannot voice our Messiah’s grace through a muffled cough or careless whisper. Our time is now running out and our voices must be loud.

          When the Catholic Church came into power, they switched Semiramis with Mary as the Queen of Heaven, associated Easter with the resurrection of Yahushua, turned the Roman festival of Saturnalia (December 25th) into the birthday of Messiah, and adopted the practices of log burning and decorating of trees as part of the celebration of Messiah’s birth. Finally, in 321 A.D., Constantine the Great issues an edict to make Sun-day the official day of worship in order to appease Christians and sun worshippers. Sunday as a day of worship links back to the ancient practice of Babylonian sun worship. Because the Catholic Church adopted many of these pagan practices with their great power and influence and infused them into the Christian religion, the multitudes believe them to be true. Babylon has maintained a religious hold on all of society for thousands of years. It is where the very first human rebellion against God took place and, according to the Bible, it will also be the source of the very last human rebellion against God. Until recently, a large percentage of the world’s population was illiterate and only the papacy was allowed to tell the general people what the Bible said. Post-Enlightenment, the Bible became mass-produced and, for the first time in history, the Word became available to all.

          “Yah never wished us to not ask questions, on the contrary, He commanded us and warned us not to trust in man, (what he told you is truth) but to seek, study diligently, to see if ‘those things be so’ to prove everything, letting every question of Scriptures be established by 2 or 3 witnesses (places in the Bible/manuscripts).”

          I believe the incredible ‘coincidence’ – or divine guidance (I can longer believe in happenstance) – of me seeing your message was a confirmation of the path I should seek to know His name.
          Ephesians 6:10-18: “Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints”

          “withold truth, deny them free will, prevent them from realizing their full potential. It is Omega, the way of Satanists – I am not exaggerating, – (I come from these people) – and after you read these facts withheld from us, and consider how things have been done, (to us, taught to us, kept from us) you will probably conclude after much study of Satanism, as well, that the religion we have been fed by these priests, preachers, ministers, bishops and nuns, pastors and Rabbis, is only the worship of Satan under another name, and in disguise as the Light-bringer. But then again, Omega, you probably already know that or suspected this at some point or at some level, because in the Bible, this was told to us beforehand.”

          A quick glance at my articles will show you that I am well aware of these things. I would love to give you my email so that it would be easier to remain in contact. There is much more that I wish to hear from you in regards to these matters. There is only so much that you can learn from a book. I find revelations from the most unsuspecting people to be most fascinating… [email protected].

          Be well ‘WI’. May Yahushua bless you and your loved ones with peace and protection. I look forward to hearing from you again.

        • Wretched Infidel

          DEAREST MAN of Yah (IAUE) Omega, thank you. I come in to put the other links which I had no time to add the last time, of the important (best!) books (free on the web if you just want to download them, too) and see that you are so kind, and I thank you for your prayers for me and family (mainly children and friends). You are a most exceptionally-thoughtful-minded and truth-loving and perceptive man. I also believe that this is not a coincidence that we are here ‘coincidentally’, and praise IAUE for it.

          As to the things you said, and I have not had a chance to read it thoroughly, as again, not enough time tonight, Yes! What an amazing thing! This last week I met a 22 year old man (well, I assume a man) and you are only 24, and you are both in the knowledge of such things that usually take decades to learn, or to develop mind’s perspective to even think like you both do. It just blows me away, this is a miracle… again, I thank and praise Yah for you

          and so I don’t get sidetracked with other things, I wished to mention that I did not mean to not send the other two books, it is that I cannot know how to send more than one URL link at a time, they have to be alone or they lose the blue stuff and you cannot clik on the link if I do more than one, and then, the place was closing and I could barely keep my head on the way they were blinking the lights and so on, so I made lots of mistakes but had to send what I did as is or not send at all, so I apologise for that mess… typing as fast as I can at the last minute, it comes out so raggedy but next time I get here I can go to your email and write to you. My email also is [email protected] and although I hardly get to see it, I can check it usually about once per week or 2 weeks at most hopefully. Thank you! It will be nice to talk to you on the email that way. There is so much information we can share. I did come here on Saturday for getting on Before Its News to write to you, to answer you, but I owed another person a response on another website, and after going there, by the time I got done, it was time they were closing 5:30 pm weekends, and I didn’t get to get on Before Its News even to print out and read the replies, which I hated to miss. Again, I apologise for that. You are right, it is hard for using the limited time wisely…such a challenge! I kind of freak out and just type as fast as I can, and never edit. That is why it is kind of you to say what you did, because I am ashamed of many of the things that I say, afterward, since I never can go back and edit anything, (no time enough) so I fear that I really am not getting my communication points as clear or accurate as I want to. It is sad. I even shock my own self at times reading things that I have typed in this rush. At least, however, it is true to the best of the knowledge that I have been able to dig up, after years, decades of studying this, and yet, I need to know much more. You will really love this purpel book, Omega, and others here too: It used to be called The Great Reformation by C. J. Koster, and I will be back after this link to get the other link of the other one with the mistake, tonight as you need it ASAP. You will be amazed, it is a fascinating adventure, and I wish that everyone would have a chance to read these books! Is the one on Amazon the one that is a large kind, like ‘trade paper’ large, about 11 inches high, and 9″ across? That is the best one, it is (it used to be) 27 dollars when I got them, but I have them no more. (everything discarded by my hate-filled family, for no reason, all our belongings which were in storage out West). Or I would send it to you if I had it. Oh well, hopefully another person or two or three (I had more than one) out in Idaho will be reading them! (just got here and have only one hour and a quarter)

          So here is one link to the C. J. Koster book, Omega, Come Out Of Her, My People:
          http://www.scribd.com/doc/75959289/Come-Out-of-Her-My-People-C-J-Koster

          and I’ll be right back May Yahuweh bless you greatly, you are much beloved by Him and Yahushua

        • Wretched Infidel

          Here is the free online book by R. Clover, entitled, The Sacred Name Yahweh
          published by Qadesh la Yahweh Press, in Covina California
          this is the excellent one, containing so many different informations that I have not ever seen anywhere else, especially all together in one book, even the purple book although that has things this does not have, does not have these amazing things that this R. Clover has found; it is astounding, it is an amaing thing, that two such men one from South Africa, and one from California, had this diligent seeking mind of Yah’s truth, and their studies have been ignored by scholars all over the world, so all the people of the world have no chance really to learn this information, and it is SO VITAL to us! It is highly highly disturbing… let me see if this will work, they were all together and I didn’t include the last chapters where he puts forth his own opinion, an unscriptural one, and arbitray, capricious and absolutely wrong one, as a fact! He puts his own unbiblical (it opposes the bible’s clear words in many places!) opinion on ONE THING as FACT! i cannot understand this, as all the other things are historical, and factual in his book, and this thing seems to ruin it for me, I am afraid that this thing he does in the later chapts, (puting his opinion, being directly oppsed to the clear Scriptural statements and encouragements as factual) will make a lot of people afraid. But if they know and read their bibles, and are not easily swayed even if they are somewhat unaware of the Biblical verses that clearly oppose and obviate his wrong statement/opinion, they will hopefully research themselves their own Bibles, and come to the right truth: many people die for the truth, and always have, and will continue to; this is terrible, but it is not the worst thing, and it was prophesied long ago. It is the nature of the wicked one to murder innocent and good people, we all understand this to be the harsh and ugly reality, Yahuweh help us all. Help us all to do the thing we should, for the right reasons. We love truth of Yah, and there are those being murdered for it as we speak, Yah help them. When the return of the Messiah happens, there will be three groups, those who knew and therefore used his name and his Father’s Name, and those who knew it and refused to use it, and those who never had a chance to know it, but did what they knew to be right with what they knew, and those who knew the name and used it for their own purposes, (for evil). I guess that is four groups. But within this poplation, there are many who learned it, proved the truth/s, to themselves, did what Yahuweh wanted and used it in His worship, in spirit and in truth, and loved his Messiah/Son, Yahushua/Yahshua and obeyed him. They will be alive, at his coming, and will not try to hide from him in the rocks, they will know him, as their Shepherd/Master, and refused to follow another (false) one. Yes, many of them will be murdered as many already have been beheaded thru history. But not all of them! That is what this author is wrong about, seriously, egregiously WRONG in that ONE thing! It is so perplexing, that a man who wrote this amazing research book, so truthfully, in all the facts, (as I can find) would put forward such a blatant wrong thing, I can’t understand it. Tell me what you think when you read it, please, Omega, even if you only read a part of the chapters, I would be so happy to hear what you feel and think, as you go along! I will be looking forward to it with much pleasure, and pray that all the other people here will also look into this, along with the other book Come Out Of Her, My People by C. J. Koster, above link.

          Here is the links (even the introduction is amazing..! I think:) What do you think?

          Contents 19K
          Introduction 30K
          Chapter 1 –Many Names? 47K
          Chapter 2 –The Personal Name Yahweh 48k
          Chapter 3 –What’s In a Name? 58k
          Chapter 4 –The Eternal Name 42k
          Chapter 5 –Exodus, 6:2-4 37k
          Chapter 6 –Are We to Use the Sacred Name? 33k
          Chapter 7 –The Prophets and the Sacred Name 55k
          Chapter 8 –All Nations and the Sacred Name 32k
          Chapter 9 –Is the Correct Pronunciation Known? 70k
          Chapter 10 –Should We Use “Jehovah”? 27k
          Chapter 11 –The Language of Judaea and Galilee 64k
          Chapter 12 –The Prohibition of the Sacred Name 31k
          Chapter 13–The Messiah and the Sacred Name 70k
          Chapter 14 –The Disciples and the Sacred Name

        • Wretched Infidel

          And Omega, I have sadly to leave in a couple minutes, but I will be back! IN case that did not work, here is the main link to R. Clover’s free book on the web. One good thing is, they do not even sell their book, so they are not out to make a profit on truth, that takes strength, you have to hand it to him, his heart is in the right place. I don’t know why he has that view, and did that thing, however, and do not rmember and cannot look it up right now, (I ahve not read this in a long time, sadly have not kept up) whether it is in the 15, 16, 17 or last chapters, but not in the chapters that I linked above, they don’t have this error. It is only in the last part of the book.

          Main page for his book: http://www.yahweh.org/PDF_index1.html

          and there is another of the book Come Out of Her My People, C. J. Koster, under a website that has it in another format, but has a lot of first draft typos, but is more printable than the link I gave above, it is something like iahushua … under a site with that particular spelling of the Name IAUE. It is easier to me, than the one I linked above…let me see if I can get it now

        • Wretched Infidel

          Yes, here it is Omega, the more easier to print version of Come Out Of Her, My People, by C. J. Koster , they use Iahushua and the book excerpts seem to come from the older version, even looks like a manuscript draft, they have many spelling and editing errors! but still you can print it out better than the one on scribd that I linked up there above… you can see which one you like more.

          If they spelling errors get too much in the way when you are reading this one, you can always switch back to the other link on scribd with the completed manuscript version.

          Well I must need to go to buy coffee before 8:30 and I am so happy that we met, praise Yahuweh/IAUE/ Yah/ and His Son Iahushua (Yahushua) for our blessings, Omega, thank you very much again, for everytihng you said, we all need each other for sure, we are in the latter days. Iahueh is raining down His spirit for sure, you are one of His own people. Can you imagine Omega that we have had the identity of our Father and even His Own Name, withheld, and covered up from us? This is and has been the cause of so much great tragedy and misery, unnecessary in history for all people. It is a great crime that has been done to us.

          May IAUE bless you, help and protect you, lead and guide and defend you in all your goings and every moment,

          Your (wretched but happy) friend,
          Apostate Ingrid

        • Wretched Infidel

          Oh, I was afraid that I forgot to press the link to you, Omega, the easier to print version of the Come Out of Her, My People, by C. J. Koster, after I had to leave …
          I am so sorry, here it is (remember this one has many manuscript typos)

          but it prints out better if you are not set up with adobe printer (or whatever it is you need)
          http://www.iahushua.com/ST-RP/tfr.htm

          That is under the book’s older title, The Great Reformation. Basically, they have the same info, but the later version, updated one, is Come Out Of Her, My People which is on scribd for free, on this : http://www.scribd.com/doc/75959289/Come-Out-of-Her-My-People-C-J-Koster

          Both are good for individual different things. the Iahushua website’s older version has it offered in separate pages for each word.

          Also I notices that the links all together did not light up in blue… (sigh) sorry again, but the main page link is again, Main page for his book: http://www.yahweh.org/PDF_index1.html for The Sacred Name by R. Clover

          Well, I must run … thank you again, Yahuweh bless you, and help us all

        • Omega Files

          “I kind of freak out and just type as fast as I can, and never edit. That is why it is kind of you to say what you did, because I am ashamed of many of the things that I say, afterward, since I never can go back and edit anything, (no time enough) so I fear that I really am not getting my communication points as clear or accurate as I want to.”

          … Don’t be ashamed of the things you say. Your faith in Him will, and has, guide/d your words. Your communication points are haste but they are profound. I really appreciate how genuine your words are – as if they flow naturally. Many, including myself, would have to sit and think long and hard in order to communicate those points properly. You make it look easy.

          “Is the one on Amazon the one that is a large kind, like ‘trade paper’ large, about 11 inches high, and 9″ across?”

          … I believe that I have found the one on Amazon that you are talking about, though they have about ten different versions. All your links appear to be working fine so I will start to pick away at these sometime within the next week or two. I am working on my Master’s degree and have midterms coming up soon, so that will be diverting much of my attention for the time being. I have already skimmed through them though and they look very interesting. I look forward to beginning these reads.

          “Yes, many of them will be murdered as many already have been beheaded thru history. But not all of them! That is what this author is wrong about, seriously, egregiously WRONG in that ONE thing! It is so perplexing, that a man who wrote this amazing research book, so truthfully, in all the facts, (as I can find) would put forward such a blatant wrong thing, I can’t understand it. Tell me what you think when you read it”

          … Some people have a hard time removing themselves from their pet doctrines. We should always be flexible when it comes to our understanding of future events. I have not read the book, but I am in agreement with you. There will be many people here to witness the return of Yahushua in the clouds with power and great glory. Though most will die – I believe in a figure of about 90%.

          1 Thess 4:17 “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

      • HerusaAustsaAusar

        OK. Got cha.. So you know the way to hell? and to Heaven? and to God? Christians have ALWAYS killed in the name of the lord Billions by my calculator, most recently Sun God worshippers(IE, Indians, Blacks, whites, indians, Incans, Myans, Aztecs..) In the name of the lord. A direct contradiction of the commandment, #6 YOU SHALL NOT MURDER…

        OK so, Now this is gonna sound corney, but if you were god would you want to be called by a stupid name like that for eternity?? IAUE or whatever??? really??? NOPE. me either.

        Next youre gonna tell me if i cuss, drink, or do drugs im going to hell or worse yet talk to an idiot like you im going to hell. Further, you say the Jews are his chosen people. I agree but not the LIARS, the real ones and hes marked em, they were dragged here in chains and forced to serve you. Do you have a bank account and house and goods and oooh a job right now? COOL then you are a rich man who cannot give up everything to serve the lord. Gods people were commanded to remain separate from the world. Sell everything, some even tore their clothes off and walked naked down the street to prove their loyalty to god. Everything, I know I did gave up my family house money kids job money all of it. I preach the true word of go expect nothing back except lies. Take no money for preaching not a penny. We all came into this world naked. So why and how is it that you are ashamed now? you cant offer your body or temple up to the lord as is?? you come clothed and loaded with rhetoric from your preachers and so called true bible and in fact like kane who did NOT give his best when called before the lord, was fully dressed, loking good offering only a little of himself to the lord that day…Even your reference to Abhram is off, bu that I mean he was willing to kill his son to prove his loyaly. Theres more to this story than the words you read, what that meant was he was NOT literally asked to KILL his son but to lead the sacraficial lamb in the wilderness to be the sacrifice to the beasts of the earth in other words the people of lucifer. BUT having proved his loyalty, god gave him Issac back. He never wanted him to KILL his son literally. But Im sure you could retort thest tidbits i gave you but We can delve later after I tto will come back to read your swill.

    • Mohsen Samii

      Impressive but please tell me in which Bible this video about America as America was mentioned by God?. or just interpretation.

      • Omega Files

        Read Jeremiah 50 and 51.

      • Wretched Infidel

        It is not mentioned by name, but I always thought that it was included in the verses/phrase (?where I’ll have to look it up for you) ‘the young lions’ ‘the young lions/cubs thereof’ speaking of the coasts, or the ISLES OF THE COASTS, because to me, the prophet was probably situated in Israel, so the Isles, and Isles in the Coasts would be other coasts, or areas of Islands, off the coasts of other lands,

        which to me, (again only my own opinion as it is not clear to me) may can/must mean young nations (young lions or cubs) of other peoples, placed on coasts, or on islands, which to me, (again!) means probably British Isles .. whose emblem is the Lion, too

        and the coasts, well, they could also be the coasts off the North American continent becuase that was sailed to by Phoenician sailors they were the best in the world back then, making trips to the North American coast since WAY WAY BEFORE 1492!!! lol, this is old and obsolete history they teach poor children in government schools to brainwah them, poor tings.

        Phoenician being North African ships, Egyptian and Libyan (Carthage people) ruled the seas back then, and so did the family of Yahushua, his uncle was a well-known tin merchant, he sailed to the British Isles (young Lions thereof? Scotland, England, Wales, Ireland, France) to do business with them all there, he may have been very well-versed in those areas and there is evidence linguistically and culturally, that Yahushua and his uncle, and later after his death, that his Miriam and wife/family may have even moved there to live ? I am not sure, and yet, it is very compelling to read about. Then they screwed with the truth the descendants of those believers in Yahushua’s message, and they made his truth take a back seat and then totally superimposed the Solar Deity’s story and legends over the truth they were once given, if they were indeed ever given that truth if they were ever there to teach the truth in person by Joseph of Arimathea and young son of Yah, Yahushua. (not Jesus! ) The Druids knew about and expected the return of a man symbolised by a Tree or Oak, or a Cross, and that is everywhere, so you can see how this truth from Yahushua (who never spread that religion and was definitely 100% against that sign of the Teitan/Satan/Saturn/Solar God the whole world already worshipped during his lifetime – was utterly superimposed on and made of no importance and eventually the truth itself was totally forgot by the people called the Celts in the British Isles and in France. They may have known about the truth, but they sure did screw it up later… if they ever got the truth told to them, is up for question however, it is interesting that the words, Dan, Dun, (a tribe of Israel) is very prevalent in Ireland, and other things .. so they knew some of the truth from some place or some one at one time.
        As always, the people love the old lies of Solar Deity (Saturn, Satan, the Sun God, or Goat Headed God) and revert to that Demonic worship and cast off the truth becuase they do not love any truth really. Just like today’s Christian Church, daughtter of Mother Harlot Church, Catholic (“Universal” Church) teaches not to worship Yah and denigrates Yahushua, Yah’s Co-creator and sent Messiah – The Word –
        and they only worship Saturn or the Sun God, The Goat whom they say ‘saves’ them! He is out to destroy them, and they love him! Amazing. And sickening to me and many others who actually beliee most of the Bible we have (mistakes notwithstanding, we can figure out where they are). Where men have written and translated, men are vulnerable to mistakes and deceptions. The Bible is no exeption to that. It is up to people to fix the false things. We try to do that.

        Well, Shalom I must really leave now! :) tomorrow? Have a good day, stay safe, and do not pray to God or Jesus, please, any more…. unless you want to do as Catholic Church liars in sheep’s clothing TELL YOU YOU HAVE TO DO! NOT!

        Loveyou all even though your obstinacy sometimes makes me mad

        • SOM1

          “(not Jesus!)” -that’s a lie!

          His name is voiced just like the spelling Jesus sounds.

          Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
          1 Corinthians 12

        • Wretched Infidel

          in REPLY to SOM1

          NO. Yu are wrong on both counts.

          SOM1? Do you realize yet that your Bible as we find it (composed by men, the editions, deletion,s the destructions and changes the Church Fathers made to the original manuscripts) have caused you and your people you have trusted to hold the actual truth and teach it TO YOU – to believe these lies of Satan?

          Do you not realize there is no J in Hebrew? And there is not a J sound in the language then, or now? So how then can what you assert be anything close to truth? What you said is 100 percept WRONG.
          Please get out of the many lies you have been taught. From childhood, from the way you speak. Probably with traumatic abuse involved as is usual to get this degree of lock-step inured-to-truth illogical brainwashed response.

          Your post has the effect of making me more sad than I deservet to be… May IAUE have mercy on your soul and spirit. Do you realize that you will die for adherence to this evil religion? SOM1. You don’t care, I know. But don’t you wish to die for the truth, instead of a lie, such as the Muslims are doing?

    • Wretched Infidel

      P.S. to Omega, thank you again I have printed all the thread out to read in entirety tonight, thank you I have never even read this whole thing out yet completely. It is sure big! There is a lot to learn on these threads!

      It will make for a good night, Praise Yah. Goodnight, everybody, and blessings to you all, from IAUE, to lead you and guide you all in this … difficult maze and test called life.

      Yahuweh please help us all

    • Wretched Infidel

      Thank you Omega Files, for your replies and amazing thoughts, I read them last night and you again blow my mind… even more

      I will be able to reply more as again, time is pressuring me

      Thank you and IAUE bless you, you are very good, so thoughtful, wise and very funny

    • slamdance13

      Lets see…
      Mort wants WW3.
      John Rolls wants Financial Collapse.
      Lisa Haven wants The Rapture.
      King of Sham wants BO to be the Antichrist
      Lyn Leahz wants Nibiru and Nephilim.
      Indian In The Machine wants Aliens and UFOs.
      Liberator wants New World Order.
      Live Free or Die/Susan Duclos want ALL of It.
      Have any of you considered Psychiatric help?
      Who have I missed?

    • Wretched Infidel

      Dear Omega, thank you for your kind words, I really appreciate your study, and your open mind to truths that you have not made a full research on, which makes you different from the majority who have a knee-jerk reaction towards these things at first… (out of fear, mostly, hopefully, but – others have it for a different reason, not so good…) and your studies so far have been pheomenal, I have wondered how you have learned so much in this short a time (2 years) … you are definitely being blessed, Omega, this is so clear. I thank Yah and praise Him for your mind and your studies and understandings… He loves you immensely. When I think of how hard it was for me, at your age, and younger, and older, to learn what you know, it was not quick, like you have learned. I could hardly concentrate.. but I knew something was wrong with these Christians doctrines that all accept without any questions, but in trying to find out to prove them wrong, was not quick, or easy.. on the contrary, it was grueling and took many months, weeks, and sometimes years to become finally clear, (the truths) which I was so DESPERATE to know for sure, once and for all. One only came after I finally gave up studying, and just asked Yahuweh ‘It is impossible for me to find this truth out… please, show me, what the truth is, about (the Trinity in that one case) because whenever I seemed to know it, the Christians would say, ‘but here, look, it says this! so there! you are denying the nature of the Godhead! you bastardly offspring of Satan!… etc. ) and I didnt know the sources to find the answers, to those egregious errors/false doctrines at that time.. I had young children and couldn’t devote enough time to either… and finally it came clear thru a myriad of sources, and I thanked Him for this clarity … sometimes, it is such a maze of lies so thickly entwined that humanly alone, we can’t unravel it .. we get stuck, at least I did. You seem to have jumped over all the hurdles and must be a genius for sure to understand what you do at 24 years old. This was prophesied, in the last days, Yahuweh said he would give the young men dreams, and visions and they would understand the hidden truths in the latter days, the hearts of the fathers and the hearts of the children would be turned once again to each other (I assume He means the patriarchs who did follow Him, in truth, like Abraham Moses and the others who knew the truth from the lie and held fast to the truth revealed to them from Yahuweh). That is happening now, I feel. Werid times we are going thru, Omega and everone. So many syncronicites (I cannot think of how else to say it, using new ager lingo yet, I am not one of those, just a person living in the age of the latter days when hearts and spirits are being led, tested, prodded with the truth-bringers, (angels of Yah) and hit upon by the angels of the enemy with the lies, too, all round, big-time, this is a war) but these are the days spoken of old by Yahuweh and the prophets of truth, when all secrets which have been hidden will be made manifest (to all? I do not think so… it says those who believe the lie and love the lies will not be able to see the truths or – maybe it is they will see them physically but not accept them, spiritually, as the truth, – they will see them manifest but reject them all, wholeheartedly).

      You said so many intense and alarming truths. “The Hebrew story of creation cannot be viewed as an isolated account known only to the ancient Jews.

      Rather, it is a story that has been mimicked and copied by very many other cultures, some of which could not have seen the Hebrew writings before developing their own versions of the basic story. That stories with similar elements sprang up in very different cultures around the world suggests that these stories have a common origin, with the Biblical account arguably the most accurate due to the unique pains that were taken in keeping the stories true to the original Word. Please note that the scribes copying the various books of the Old and New Testaments did so with strict supervision and careful checking by the scribe as well as those working with him to avoid errors. (yes)

      Where many cultures rewarded the embellishment of stories,(how interesting! Wow! that is the difference! truth is not revered, or valued, embelishment and fabrication is! just like their God, Satan)

      the Jewish writers worked in the opposite direction: the stories were never to be altered even by punctuation. It’s sad because, all our churches have chosen to remain in the Babylonian system and because of that, the True Meat of Yahuweh’s Word is NOT being preached, taught, and revealed by these pastors. (Yes, so bad, horrible)

      How are these preachers going to hear the His instruction for what to do in this late hour if they don’t realize the lateness of the hour?” EXACTLY. And their flocks, deadened to truth and hope and logic, by the teachings of the enemy God, and poisoned by actual physical poisons – (like Sod Fluoride, deadening the pineal, their brain and body overcome by the effects of that and mercury, exploding brain cells on contact, from an infancy on thru life, cummulatively ruining the person, body and mind and spirit, – this is a TRAGEDY BEYOND COMPARE/COMPREHENSION! and the people accept this condition like zombies, sheep, herded towards the abysss..)

    • Wretched Infidel

      And this, Omega, when you said “Mankind is racing toward changing the very image that we were created in to disconnect us from the Holy Spirit forever. The Creator himself has invited us all to examine, search, explore, and reveal His Word. The Messiah knows that those who sincerely do this with a humble heart, and those who do this with their soul intent on truly discovering the Truth; those will indeed discover Him. (THIS is so encouraging to us)

      The Messiah is not afraid of our examination of His Word, nor does He condemn it. In fact, He provided the ultimate platform, through the Bible, to facilitate our examination of Him.”

      LOLOL! hOW HAPPY AND FUNNY Omega! so true… I love this thank you Wow

    • Wretched Infidel

      So thank you again, still reading, still trying to take and understand it all, what you said above.

      You are deep… I love your beautiful noble mind. You are a man in Iahuweh’s own and Iahushua’s own images, Praise Yah. Why can’t all men be as manly as you? Why do men have to be in the image of their chosen god, who is derisive towards truth, feels they naturally must ridicule and mock truth-sayers, whenever they offer something different that they happen never to have heard before???? That is in the image of their Daddy figure… Satanically inspired.

      Men: Women, you are included. You are operating in a paradigm which is designed to obtain your complete degradation and then after that, your complete anguished utter ruination. Please stop playing the Enemy’s tune so faithfully. Get out – be your own, at least, if you don’t want to act in the image or play by the rules your Creators made to keep you alive and propspering (yet) at least, refuse (be a rebel for heaven’s sake!) refuse to act in the image of your Enemy, the One who with his hordes of spirits has trillions of ways to get you to do his bidding!? Men, women, you are not supposed to be dupes. You need, please, to get out from under the yoke of your OPPRESSOR… realize this is a WAR and you are being ruined, and as you do what they want, they are LAUGHING AT YOU for falling for their damned lies.
      Refuse! Rebel!
      Read! Hey, I love you all, even the duped ones. I feel for you all

    • Wretched Infidel

      All of sudden my head is hurting in the back of the skull. This is weird. I guess I cannot get birds today. Yahuweh / IAUE / Iahuweh please help us all

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