The Real Truth about "Hell"
I have been a Christian for for 48 years and have been raised a devout Catholic for most of my life, going to Catholic schools for 10 years which required mandatory church several days a week. I gave my life to God to serve him and committed my all to him. But my never ending search for the truth led me to some unanswered questions that led me to answers that shook me to the core!!!
What if I were to tell you through my never ending search for the truth lead me to find that “Hell” does not exist??? Do you know that there are 12 Bibles that mention “hell”, and that it is mentioned no more than 12-13 times, but the most widely printed, widely read and widely used Bible, the King James Version, uses “Hell” an astonishing 54 times? Did you know 22 Bibles in print from 1755 to 1985 DO NOT mention “Hell” at all? Isn’t it odd that God never told Adam & Eve their punishment would be “hell”? God clearly states that the punishment for their sins would be death. It was never mentioned to Cain ( the 1st murderer ), not even Noah, Abraham, Lot, Job, Moses, or Solomon, nor to the Apostles.
The Pharisees undoubtedly found the threat of “hell” increased their power. They probably borrowed the concept of “hell” from the pagan Greek after Alexander the Great conquered the Middle East during the “silent” period between the writing of the OT and the NT. Besides power, it also increased revenues and profits. Later when the when the pagan Roman emporeror Constantine demanded that Catholic bishops “come together” and agree on what became known as the Nicene Creed, he commissioned 50 Bibles, a huge and very expensive undertaking in those days. It seemed possible that the more “hellish” may have entered the Bible at that time, as “hell” was a great way to scare up money and put even more power in tthe hands of the church and state.
At the end of the world God promises us a new world filled with love, peace and harmony. How can we have all of that if there are billions of people suffering for all eternity? More likely, at the time of judgement, those who don’t make it will simply just fail to exist. God is a loving, kind and just God, why would he want to see his children suffer mercilessly every day when he promises us a new world with peace and love? The most most printed Bible uses “hell” twice as much as any other Bible, why? There are 13 Bibles that mention “hell’ and 22 that don’t, why such a difference? Why would God wait 2000 years to mention “hell” exists?
He never told Moses when he flooded the earth or Lot when he destroyed Sodom and Gomorah. They just failed to exist. That seems to be the most logical explanation of what happens during judgement day, when we all have to face our creator. Ask yourself one question, is the God you love so much a monster that wants to hear day in and day out the screams his children suffer in agonizing pain when we are PROMISED peace, love and harmony? My God would not be that cruel. How about yours?
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Hell does exist! It is as horific as told! Many NDE’rs have had the experience of going to hell! What they say is incredible! And, it matches with the book of Enoch. Even more incredible is people of all faiths have had the experience. And guess who they see? Go ahead. Guess. Yes, they often see satan. But there is someone else they see. Someone who gives them the tour, and explains why. And, this someone else proves it is real! Not hard to find! Not hard to figure it out! But whatever! You tell it how you feel it, and don’t worry about the truth! It’s all about how you feel! That’s your truth!
Someone’s memorised The Divine Comedy… Dante had a tour guide, too.
Bill;
All, or almost all sects/denominations falsely believe that Dante’s Inferno is real. It comes from pagandom, not Christianity taught by Jesus. God, Jesus’ father, never taught or spoke of a hell of fire and torment existing. Both taught that we do not have an immortal soul either. That also comes from pagandom. They’ve always believed in such a thing, and in reincarnation as well. The scriptures clearly teach that we ARE a soul, not that we have one. They say that the soul that sins will die. We are all born with sin, so we all die. Nothing remains after we die. We go back to the dust from whence we came. Nothing survives our death. The scriptures also say that all these sects/denominations are false religion. Works of the flesh, and Babylon the Great. No sect/denomination teaches that, even though it’s all over the Bible. They refrain from teaching a lot of what’s in the Bible. Satan’s deception of the entire inhabited Earth begins with religion. Satan first brought such religion to Earth in the Garden in Eden, and ever since, they have worked in opposition to God, and to mankind. So why does most of mankind believe in their lies? Satan is very effective in drawing almost all of mankind away from Him who he opposes. That’s why the scriptures say only a tiny number of people survive the tribulation and final battle.
Savage:
I think that the confusion regarding Dante’s version of Hell comes from a misunderstanding of the reference to “The Lake of Fire”, mentioned in Scripture. The way I understand it, it refers to a garbage dump, which continuously burned, outside Jerusalem. It makes sense to me, that Dante ran with that imagery, and the rest is history (depending on one’s view of it). I know that there is no mention of Hell, as it’s presented by Signior Alegheri. He gave Christians the means by which to use it as a tool of control.
On the other hand, he did the same with Heaven and Purgatory. One must remember that The Divine Comedy is an epic poem, in three parts. Each of them, are (in my opinion) the basis for the common perception of all three ethereal destinations. Not only that, he gave rise to the 7 Deadly Sins; th
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Though examples of the sins, were mentioned in the bible. Dante merely codified them.
Bill;
Christendom has adopted most of pagandom’s beliefs. Hell fire is only one of them. Immortal soul is another, making hell fire, to them, possible. It’s a shame they don’t actually study the scriptures, or rather, an accurate translation of them, and find out the truth for themselves. They’re too lazy and rely on others to do their thinking for them.
Matthew 25:41 speaks of “everlasting fire” for the wicked. Does it go out?
Yes, according to the Bible, it does. We must let the Bible explain itself. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with everlasting, or eternal, fire (Jude 7), and that fire turned them “into ashes” as a warning to “those that after should live ungodly,” 2 Peter 2:6. These cities are not burning today. The fire went out after everything was burned out. Likewise, everlasting fire will go out after it has turned the wicked to ashes (Malachi 4:3). The effects of the fire are everlasting, but not the burning itself.
Doesn’t Matthew 25:46 say the wicked will receive “everlasting punishment”?
Notice the word is punishment, not punishing. Punishing would be continuous, while punishment is one act. The punishment of the wicked is death, and this death is everlasting.
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Satan, his angels and the wicked will receive the final wages of sin when fire comes down from God out of heaven to utterly destroy them, death and hell. This is the second death (1 Cor. 15:26; Rev 20:7-10,14,15); and (d) this fire, which destroys the works of sin, will purify the earth (2 Peter 3:10-14; Mal. 4:1-3; Rev. 20:4,8).
THE NEW EARTH
#28. The earth, cleansed by fire and re-created by the power of God, will become the eternal home of the redeemed and God Himself will live with them. (2 Peter 3:9-13; Isa. 65:17-25; 35:1-10; 45:18; Matt. 5:5; Mal. 4:1-3; Prov. 11:31)
Wrong !! “The effects of the fire are everlasting, but not the burning itself.” The Scriptures say otherwise. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2033:14;%20Matthew%2018:8;25:41;%20Mark%209:44 Isaiah 33:14
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
Amminadab;
The “everlasting fire” mentioned in the scriptures is a METAPHORICAL reference to Gehenna, the valley of Hinnom, just outside Jerusalem. It is a burning trash dump where sulphur is poured on it to keep it burning. It refers to complete destruction, not a hell of fire and torment, since hell, in the scriptures, means common grave of mankind, and nothing more. the scriptures say repeatedly that we do not have an immortal soul, so how can one be sent to a make believe hell of fire and torment? Nothing survives death. The soul that sins shall DIE. If a soul is immortal, it can’t die, but since we ARE a soul, we don’t have one, we die with nothing left alive or behind but a corpse. The second death, Gehenna, has another meaning in conjunction with the one referring to complete destruction. It means we won’t be resurrected. God removes those from His memory who receive the second death, Gehenna, or the lake of fire and sulphur. It is from His memory that we are resurrected.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Doctrines/soul_sleep.htm
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Hells_Truth/hell_in_the_scriptures.htm
Repent Now! If you keep spreading this malarkey to others I promise you going to find God but not in the way you are hoping to. We are about to enter the final three and one half years of man’s self rule. During this tribulation Christ is coming to destroy all those who oppose God. Do you honestly want to remain one of them? Think long and hard before answering that question “Yahweh Word is the only truth” so the usual deceptive tripe isn’t going to suffice any longer. All who purposely spread false doctrine will soon be held to account. I pray you smarten up in time.
JMO
Yor got it … JMO … “Christ is coming to DESTROY…” no extended fire torture. Maybe you are the one who is spreading malarkey … good news for you eh? My favorite scripture describing hell is found in II Thessalonians …” punished with everlasting DESTRUCTION from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power “
Excuse me…. I see that you were replying to the comment supporting hell fire..whoops
Agreed 100% dabu! HELL IS REAL! MORE SO THAN THIS UNIVERSE!! To the writer of this bit of heresy, (I mean the one who wrote this lie about the non existence of Hell), I say…..
Tell me Catholic heretic, if Hell doesn’t exist then why did God give His only begotten, precious Son to be tortured and tormented and THEN laid the sins of all of mankind on Him to DEATH?
You know NOTHING of the things of God and you are in great danger of ending up in the place you say doesn’t exist, especially if you continue to deny TRUTH spreading your toxic, Christ denying blasphemy without having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ; the ONLY way to escape Hell.
All of your schooling has been futile lies. You say you have been a Christian for 48 years when you have never known Him. First, you should RUN from the RCC as fast as you can and get a King James Bible and then READ AND STUDY IT like it says in 1 Timothy 2:15.
Then you should read up on the history of the King James Bible and understand that since the writing of the first scripture, there have been “certain men who have crept in unawares… who have turned the word of God into lasciviousness denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ” (Jude 3) and those are some of the ones who claim that Hell doesn’t exist.
The Masoretic Text (the very text whereby we have received our 1611 King James Version) and the rest of the Scripture that was inspired by “holy men of God who spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” is what the King James Bible is and the RCC favored Douay Rheims and any other version including the NIV, NTSB, NKJB, NESV, or any of the new versions (much too many to be listed here) by world publishers who have changed God’s eternal word, come from the corrupt Alexandrian Text.
Not only do you attack Jesus Christ by calling Him a liar and telling Him that His SAVING GRACE doesn’t really keep anyone from Hell – a place that is continually warned about throughout Scripture but you promote your vain imaginations on a public forum!
dabu;
Hell means the common grave of mankind.
Collier’s Encyclopedia (1986, Vol. 12, p. 28) says concerning “Hell”: “First it stands for the Hebrew Sheol of the Old Testament and the Greek Hades of the Septuagint and New Testament. Since Sheol in Old Testament times referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggested no moral distinctions, the word ‘hell,’ as understood today, is not a happy translation.”
It is, in fact, because of the way that the word “hell” is understood today that it is such an unsatisfactory translation of these original Bible words. Webster’s Third New International Dictionary, unabridged, under “Hell” says: “fr[om] . . . helan to conceal.” The word “hell” thus originally conveyed no thought of heat or torment but simply of a ‘covered over or concealed place.’ In the old English dialect the expression “helling potatoes” meant, not to roast them, but simply to place the potatoes in the ground or in a cellar.
In no way do the scriptures, when truthfully and accurately translated, ever indicate that hell refers to a fiery place of torment. The scriptures ALSO refer to man as “being” a soul, not having one. In Genesis it says “man became a living soul”.
In the Bible, “soul” is translated from the Hebrew neʹphesh and the Greek psy·kheʹ. Bible usage shows the soul to be a person or an animal or the life that a person or an animal enjoys. To many persons, however, “soul” means the immaterial or spirit part of a human being that survives the death of the physical body. Others understand it to be the principle of life. But these latter views are not Bible teachings.
Gen. 2:7: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.” (Notice that this does not say that man was given a soul but that he became a soul, a living person.) (The part of the Hebrew word here rendered “soul” is neʹphesh. KJ, AS, and Dy agree with that rendering. RS, JB, NAB read “being.” NE says “creature.” Kx reads “person.”)
1 Cor. 15:45: “It is even so written: ‘The first man Adam became a living soul.’ The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.” (So the Christian Greek Scriptures agree with the Hebrew Scriptures as to what the soul is.) (The Greek word here translated “soul” is the accusative case of psy·kheʹ. KJ, AS, Dy, JB, NAB, and Kx also read “soul.” RS, NE, and TEV say “being.”)
1 Pet. 3:20: “In Noah’s days . . . a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the water.” (The Greek word here translated “souls” is psy·khaiʹ, the plural form of psy·kheʹ. KJ, AS, Dy, and Kx also read “souls.” JB and TEV say “people”; RS, NE, and NAB use “persons.”)
Gen. 9:5: “Besides that, your blood of your souls [or, “lives”; Hebrew, from neʹphesh] shall I ask back.” (Here the soul is said to have blood.)
Josh. 11:11: “They went striking every soul [Hebrew, neʹphesh] that was in it with the edge of the sword.” (The soul is here shown to be something that can be touched by the sword, so these souls could not have been spirits.)
A soul dies. It’s not immortal. It is us when we are alive and breathing. Therefore no part of us can be sent to hell. Hell is not what religions teach that it is, and we have no immortal soul.
I have also thought about these things. I have run into some problems, and being that peoples eternity is at stake we must be careful, and pray to God that we are right in what we say.
A few things come to mind, none of which have led me to write in stone any final answers. We do know “truth” is revealed and does not go from the mind of one man into the mind of another, algebra does that, not spiritual truth.
What exactly comes to mind? (in no specific order)…
Well Romans CH 9, vessels of wrath, and vessels of grace; those destined to salvation; You must be born again; Abraham and the great chasm; Hell is real and is destroyed; Angels in chains bound until they are released; Children of God, and children of your father the devil; Mary’s seed and Satan’s seed.
And the above is just off the top of my head, and you have to fill in the blanks since I don’t want to type all night, since I type with 2 fingers.
Yes hell DO exists (sort of), but it spells totaly loneless and meaningless of the enternity darkness and void.
It exists before the light and will exists long after the lights is gone. Out from darkness came light once. It could be beautiful sometimes. Its only by humans that dress it as evil or good. Its neither both. Its a universe itself.
what bible told you or perhaps more truly “people” that interpreting the bible, has always have a twisted view of it.
Heaven and hell are states of mind within the Kingdom.
There is heaven and earth. And who was cast down to rule the earth? What does that make this place?
Exactly where do you people get this nonsense? Honestly do you think it’s alright to just make up anything you want and then apply it as gospel? I am at a loss for words. Those who know me understand what a rarity this is.
JMO
JMO … I am afraid that all you have or are willing to consider is JUST-MY-OPINION … all others may most likely rot in hell …open up my friend and consider the opinion of others which are based on Scripture .
my bad …we are on the same page
The writer is quite correct.
Hell as we translate it derives from the Greek and Hebrew words for a place of restraint, a place of final destruction by fire, and a simple hole in the ground where dead bodies are disposed of.
There is no implication of torment involved, except in the case of the poor man and the rich man, but as that vision only occurs once, then we should not interpret it in any other way than allegorically; as only the witness of two condemns a man to death.
Because the Lord Jesus Christ died for all men, and paid the penalty due to each and every one of us, He therefore now controls the fates of all of us, without a single exception.
“Christ Jesus, Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time”.
Some He chooses to be with Him in eternal bliss; others are to be burned up in an instant by eposure to the fire of God, which is an intrinsic part of His nature.
Punishment is limited to a temporal event; for example, those who died in the first Judgement were drowned, not a pleasant end by any means, but over and done with in one single episode.
As the writer states, the concept of burning forever in fiery torment has been used by the powers that be as an adjunct to their plan to extract money and subservience from people; it is not any part of the Creator’s Plan.
You wrote “Because the Lord Jesus Christ died for all men, and paid the penalty due to each and every one of us, He therefore now controls the fates of all of us, without a single exception.
“Christ Jesus, Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time”.
Brother I mean no disrespect, but detect some real misunderstanding on your part. The term ransom is being abused to mean all inclusive when in fact that’s not the case. Sure Jesus died for all of our sins, however this was not a collective act of forgiveness from God. Jesus died because that was God’s plan from the beginning. In fact each intricate detail of God’s plan was developed well before the creation of the heavens and earth.
God’s perfect Son was created solely to serve God’s divine purposes for mankind. He was created primarily to become our eternal Passover sacrifice and King. He was appointed our advocate and high priest. His crucifixion and blood made obsolete the Levitical requirement for animal sacrifice, the Mercy Seat and the high priest petitioning God for the sins of all. Through his son Jesus, God provides each of us direct access to Him where previously sin prevented that. We can now ourselves ask our Heavenly Father for forgiveness praying through Christ the mediator.
Be careful about using human intellect and reason, depicting or substituting a different Christ or image of him will posture you in opposition to God. All this may seem insignificant to you but this one detail is extremely important. This knowledge of who Christ is and his purpose, is the fundamental bases for man’s salvation.
JMO
Isn’t disputing God to stand in opposition to His word? There is far too much credit given to deceivers. Liars aren’t your brothers. The Bible is clear on many things these people dispute. To refute God is blatant opposition to His word. The Holy Spirit leads the genuine believer into truth, and the devil gets nowhere, as if coming with horns and a pitchfork. Rather, he specializes in being a fake Christian and delights in perverting truth.
Wise up, people. If a person is not of the truth, they’re a liar, are simply like a tree bearing bad fruit, lies. This isn’t rocket science. Don’t be deceived by a web full of tares. A lying gospel is a lying gospel. Perversion of truth is perversion of truth. It doesn’t even matter why anybody is a tool of the devil. If you can’t see the deception, you had better repent and seek the Lord in truth, seek eyes that see and ears that hear, while you can.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2 Thessalonians 2
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Matthew 7
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 13
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Some preach hellfire is a way for the saved to remember the high cost of their sins throughout eternity. When the truth is, it’s the scars on Christ that does this perfectly!
By the way.. If Hellfire burns for eternity, then why did Jesus only stay dead three days? Was He not to be our perfect Saviour and sacrifice for sin? If the wages of sin is death, then Christ died for us, and that’s that. However, the world says the wages of sin is eternal punishing in hell. Therefore, Christ (according to them) is not our perfect Saviour because He is no longer in torment, nor will He be for eternity. This is what the World preaches as the end result of sin. But the Bible plainly says in Romans 6:23 that “the wages of sin is death” right? Therefore, two lies are told to the one that believes in eternal life in hellfire.
Satan says the Word of God contradicts itself
Satan says Jesus didn’t really take our eternal punishing away because He only stayed in the grave three days.
Simple common sense can be such a blessing when used correctly. Historic fact is, Christ DIED. Biblical fact is, the wages of sin is DEATH. He did as He promised and in so doing He is the Saviour of the world!
Amen.
“If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God”.
Amminadab, Jesus was and is Perfect and has no sins; therefore He did not see hell or punishment beyond His Sacrificial death on the cross; in the fulfillment of His promise to die once for an eternal sacrifice for all mankind. Thank you Jesus. AMEN.
Christ was crucified on the torture stake not a cross. The cross is pagan symbolism adopted by the harlot and her offspring to disrespectfully spit in the face of the Messiah. To willfully join in on this easily debunked deception and then advocate it to others is spiritual insanity. You are truly playing with fire! Like other false depictions of both God the Father and Jesus His Son when a person accepts such fallacy as truth they in turn worship that false image of God. God calls this idolatry or spiritual adultery. It’s your relationship with God and Christ and it’s your future. Take this gem for what it is worth or don’t. We all have choices to make. I pray you’ll head my love inspired warning, but if I were a betting man I wouldn’t wager a thin dime on your acceptance until you’re called by God.
JMO
You are much too opinionated ….and too little truely loving…. too mental and not enough spiritual. too much JMO … not enough new man in Christ…. just realized I was talking about myself as well …. God help us!
Eternal Everlasting Fire – Does It Burn Forever?
Mat 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Note carefully the last verse. Sodom and Gomorrha surely did burn, but are they burning now? Of course not. So just what is meant by an eternal or everlasting fire? Let me use a match as an illustration. If you light a match and let it burn to ashes, the match cannot be reconstituted into a match, it has been eternally burned and destroyed. The match burned until there was nothing left to burn, then the fire went out. This is what happened in Sodom and Gomorrha. They burned until there was nothing left to burn, and then the fire went out. The results of the fire are complete destruction, but the fire itself does not burn eternally.
2 Pet 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Here in 2nd Peter, Sodom and Gomorrha are explicitly held up as examples of the fate of the wicked, which will similarly be reduced to ashes in the lake of fire (hell fire) of Revelation 19 and 20. It will burn and destroy Satan and his angels as well as all sinners, but then it will go out. The results of that fire are everlasting, but the fire will indeed go out, just exactly as it did with Sodom and Gomorrha. Then there will be a new heaven and a new earth:
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
The “former things” are sin, death, Satan and all the rest of the wicked. They will pass away in the lake of fire, be reduced to ashes and be no more.
The Unquenchable Fire – Does It Burn Forever?
Isa 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mat 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Mark 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Jer 17:27 But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.
The key to understanding the phrase unquenchable fire is in the last quote, Jer 17:27. Israel did not heed the warning and as a result Jerusalem and the Temple of God were burned to the ground by Nebuchadnezzar (See II Kings 25:8,9). Is Jerusalem burning today? Obviously not. An unquenchable fire clearly does not burn forever. So what does the phrase mean? A fire that cannot be quenched burns until its divine purpose has been accomplished and then it goes out. Man cannot extinguish or quench the fire, but it does indeed go out when there is nothing left to burn.
Everlasting Punishment?
Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
The destruction of the wicked in the lake of fire is permanent. It is a punishment that cannot be reversed. The act of punishing will come to an end, but the consequences will last for eternity.
“I have been a Christian for for 48 years and have been raised a devout Catholic for most of my life, going to Catholic schools for 10 years which required mandatory church several days a week. I gave my life to God to serve him and committed my all to him. But my never ending search for the truth led me to some unanswered questions that led me to answers that shook me to the core!!!”
This here shows you have twisted views of reality because you’ve been indoctrinated since birth.
Jacko, I would be interested to know if you are still a devout Catholic? Just very interested. If you are a genuine Child of God, then be Blessed…..
https://theyoungearth.wordpress.com/2015/10/16/t-rex-soft-tissue-find-of-the-century/
The discovery of the century and no one is talking about it, why? Connect the dots and be blown away!
This book has a very good explanation of the use of hell in the Bible.
http://www.amazon.com/Martin-Zender-Goes-Hell-Un-Criticized/dp/097098491X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1445158572&sr=1-1&keywords=martin+zender+goes+to+hell
“Hell” does not exist???”
Yes i can agree with that, it’s a whipping stick and Heavon is all about eating bread today and jam tomorrow.
Some people have trouble coming to to terms with when your dead , your dead and will grasp at anything to take the fear away.
We live in a computer simulation, thats all i know and i can only take educated guess as to the “why” or what is our purpose.
Data in a database is not the same as data on the CPU bus or in memory and i can see the reason for keeping the data in the database so that it can be looked back on but i see no reason to start the old program running again in another simulation with a new set of laws of physics.
When i think about Holy people, well i see Israel killing people in Gaza and ISIS running around Syria and i won’t be taking any lesson from them two.
This is Hell (a.k.a. planet Earth) and we’ve been here for thousands of Earth years. We were banished to this prison planet reform school for the criminally insane for our crimes (Rev. 12:7-9). Perhaps you should look up how many references there are to this planet being a prison? Please see a few references below:
Psalms 69:33, 102:20, 142:7, 146:7
Ecclesiastes 4:14
Isaiah 14:17, 24:22, 42:7, 61:1
Lamentations 3:31-34
Isaiah 42:7 TO OPEN BLIND EYES, TO BRING OUT THE PRISONERS FROM THIS PRISON [planet], [and] them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
There are references in the New Covenant/Testament as well to being prisoners of Christ-Jesus, which has more than one meaning, but certainly substantiate all of the Old Covenant references to this being a prison planet.
Ref: Romans 16:7, Ephesians 3:1, 4:1, II Timothy 1:8, Philemon 1:1, 1:9
Someone mentioned the book of Enoch. It’s in there too.
Enoch 18:15 Then the angel said: This place, until the consummation of heaven and Earth will be the PRISON for the stars, and the host of heaven (Rev. 12:7-9).
And in the Koran as well.
Sura 17:8. It may be that your Lord may (yet) show Mercy unto you; but if ye revert (to your sins), We shall revert (to Our punishments): and We have made Hell (the Earth) a prison (Enoch 18:15) for those who reject (all Faith).
Sura 83:5-12
83:5. On a Mighty Day,
83:6. A Day when (all) mankind will stand before the Lord of the Worlds?
83:7. Nay! Surely the record of the wicked is (preserved) in their Prison Record.
83:8. And what will explain to thee what Prison Record is?
83:9. (There is) a Register (fully) inscribed.
83:10. Woe, that Day, to those that deny-
83:11. Those that deny the Day of Judgment.
83:12. And none can deny it but the Transgressor beyond bounds the Sinner!
Planet Earth IS Hell, which is why Satan and ALL of his followers (including YOU – see Luke 9:55) were cast HERE. The flames (hell-fire, the Lake of Fire, i.e. THE Fire) are reserved for the Last Day (Matt. 25:41) for those that continue refusing to DO God’s Will (which BEGINS by living…be-lieving in His Perfect Law of Liberty).
Revelation 12:7-9
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out TO THE EARTH, and his angels (you – Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).
The authorized King James 1611 version of the Bible was the most accurate translation into the English language until the King of kings’ Bible was completed, which may explain why it has more references to hell in it. All of the above quotes are from the King of kings’ Bible, which includes the Book of Enoch and the Koran, all cross-referenced with the Old and New Covenants and available to view for free online.
http://jahtruth.net/kokf-free/Bible
If you would like to learn more about the war in heaven that YOU fought in, why it was necessary for God to create humans, what a human+being REALLY is and what we should all be doing to set things straight and avoid The Fire on Judgment Day (please see Malachi 4), then please read, study and put into practice “The Way home or face The Fire” by JAH, which is can be downloaded for free at:
http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net
Believing stuff like this pulls you away from God faster than anything I know. If it is true, it isn’t for us to understand now, for we cannot love ourselves the way God does. God’s love for us is infinite and we are much more precious to Him then what we can understand. God will always build us up, Satan will always make us feel bad about ourselves and our worth.
I have been tempted to think I was the most evil villain of all time because I was born into a cult and suffered satanic ritual abuse. I began to think God was punishing me for some sin in another life.
I have had to give up this kind of thinking because it pulls me down and thoughts that pull you down are the thoughts of hell.
God tells me I am precious to Him, I am sanctified, and I am loved. He never blames me for the horror I have lived through. He builds me up and tells me I will be blessed beyond imagination for enduring these hard things.
Michael is Adam, and he was the first man on earth. Everyone here on earth who has a body was on God’s side in the war in heaven and came here to continue their education to learn the consequences and pain of death in order to know the good.
God made His own Son Jesus Christ suffer an insane amount of pain. We are also children of God and are to follow His example. Jesus has all power of creation and as we suffer with Him, we will gain a stewardship of that power, but only when we have the proper perspective of life and death that only this human experience can give.
We are good. We are children of God and we are good. We are not evil, that is a temptation that Satan wants us to believe so we will stay away from God’s love for us and all men.
Pavlov’s ‘learned helplessness’ experiment proves that pain has no power to motivate. You will learn to suffer pain rather than escape it after having suffered it long enough. Hell is Satan’s dominion. Jesus will not use pain to motivate us to do good. He will not send us to prison or to time out. He says, “Come to ME” because His love is a true motivator and as far as pain and death goes, it is for those who haven’t received love as a true motivator. Thus Jesus said, ‘Forgive them, for they know not what they do.” People in hell will get out when they know what love is, they are there out of ignorance and the righteous can do a lot to help them by showing them what unconditional love and forgiveness is all about.
As Darth Vader would put it, ‘you don’t know the power of the dark side’ because he was influenced by fear and pain, but when he learned the power of love for his son Luke, then he was able to overcome the evil and turn toward the light.
[TABUSE SYSTEM] is the biggest taboo in the world…
What is the [TABUSE SYSTEM]? (TABUSE SYSTEM is famous in Japan.)
・All of wars are fake.
・All of religions are cabal tool.
・If I occupy the opponent ideas (or organizations), I can completely control all its matter.Therefore I should occupy all ideas and organizations with farce friction strategically.
・Only owning all central banks in the world and the right of controlling the gold price come to the world ruler.
BBS [TABUSE SYSTEM]
http://www.onrw.net/worldjapan/14021795929546/
There is no one who has ever lived, nor ever will who has more credibility than Our Lord Jesus Christ. He stated many times that hell is eternal and those who go there burn in its “unquenchable flames” for all eternity. It is very difficult for many to fathom that an All Loving and Infinitly Merciful God would punish so severely. The best explanation I have heard is that mortal sin is the total rejection of God and separates us from him. Because God is infinite in his greatness, sin is an offense of infinite magnitude which in justice requires a punishment of just proportion. If anyone doubts that God is infinite mercy, than look at a crucifix sometime and ask would God have gone through so much if hell is not eternal?
Keep praying to the DEAD catholicker.
HELL … Here Everyone Learns Life… Two Realms Of Existence In Ones Light Or Out Of Ones Light… Today The World Is In A Living Hell… As The Dead Have Made It… Alive or Dead?… Because ye Breathe In NO WAY Means ye Are Among The Living… For Today People Have NO FAITH…
News flash, there is no heaven either. But there is a “holographic heaven” that is set up for us when we die, and it’s actually just a holding tank for all Earth souls to be re-incarnated back onto Earth. We are being used over and over again by the controllers of Earth.
There is only a “hell” and “heaven” in your consciousness and if you think you’re going to heaven, that’s where you’ll go, if you think you’re going to hell that’s where you’ll go. Your consciousness is more powerful than you could ever imagine and the controllers of Earth know this, so they send forth their little minions in the guise of priests to tell you you’re a sinner, but you are not. You, I, all of us were born of the divine, not out of sin.
Hello to the “no Hell advocate”:
You say that you were reared Catholic; thereby, you were taught the “Social Gospel.” That is why you thinking moves to you denounce a Hell.
However, if you read what the Christ said, then there is a hell. EXAMPLE: Matthew 25:41
Now, if you are a true follower of the Christ, and defy his own words, you must be a liar. Yes?
FACT: The clay does not tell the potter what to do. Neither shall Man tell the Creator what He can do. Isaiah 29:16
FACT: There are many dimensions, which the recent CERN discoveries are proving with real-time evidence.
INFORMATION: The devil and his demons were vanquished from the heavenly dimension for disobedience. They dared to cross the dimensional divide, as recorded in the Sumerian texts 20,000 years ago, and again in Genesis 6. They corrupted the human DNA, which caused the Creator to lose contact with Man. The human DNA could not receive energy transmissions as it was intended to do. Thereby, “SIN” equals “corrupted DNA.” In physics, DNA is an antenna.
GOSPEL: The problem of corrupted DNA was corrected via the Forever Contract, which was Signed, Sealed, and Delivered by Y’shuah in 33 A.D. For 2,000 years, humans have been allowed to download the software that will correct our DNA, whereby we come into communion with the Creator. It is a choice. If one chooses to ignore it, then one will translate into the demonic dominion…forever. Choose wisely.
Sincerely,
R.E. Sutherland, M.Ed./sciences
This is hell…..and it’s going to get very hot!
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Right. Hell does not exist no because neither does heaven or God for that matter, at least not in the traditional sense. Anyone who believes otherwise is uneducated, ignorant and a type of mind that believes iron age fairy tales to rule the masses. The most faithful are also the most foolish and illogical.
You who say there is no hell, you say one thing, God says another. It doesn’t take me long, anyway, to know who to believe.
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. Mark 9:43-48
Those who claim only the devil and his angels are in hell, the beast is the man of sin (2 Thessalonians 2:3):
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Revelation 20:10
Those who worship the beast and his image are men:
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Revelation 14:10-11
Teaching on hell by the Lord Jesus is crystal clear:
There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: and there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; and in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: for I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 16:19-31
You who disagree don’t really believe the Bible, the word of God. Your main problem is that it doesn’t matter what you believe, truth is truth, which never changes, to suit your error and delusions.
Fantastic! Finally a vestige of truth about “Hellfire and Damnation is strategic fear mongering.” In referencing only this concept I thank you for opening the door to this very important conversation. For all the so called believers who depict God as a cruel ogre who would torture those He is supposed to love for all eternity, pay close attention. Hades Hell, Sheol, Gehenna and The Lake of Fire, all relate to the grave or second death. They are symbolic of everlasting destruction. When trash is burned it is gone forever. During the second phase of God’s plan of resurrection, after the Millennial Rein of Christ all who are resurrected will not to be given spiritual bodies like will be the case for the firstfruits from God’s initial harvest. Instead these folks will be given restored physical bodies. They will be given a short time frame to decide whether or not they will accept God’s way as exampled through Christ’s rule. If they choose something different they will experience the “second death,” perishing forever. Like the trash in the fire they will exist no more. This is what makes it an “eternal punishment,” it’s final. There is no further or future contact with God or the opportunity to be resurrected to life.
Thanks again bro,
Just-My-OPinion
good comment …. sorry I miss-read you to start with … best wishes mike
Hell is an ancient pagan concept. The honorable dead, eg, those who fought and died honorably in battle go to the Halls of Valhalla, where they feast and celebrate, but actually a pedestal we place such hero’s in our continuing remembrance of them and their heroic deeds. For example just about everyone knows about Alexander the Great and the Spartan 300 V’s the Babylonian army millions strong. Hell on the other hand is where we put people after they’ve died, who are dishonorable, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot for example. The difference between fame and infamy, we all hope the despots get 100 times worse than they’ve dished out, it’s human nature.
Congratulations on your post.
There is a growing body of believers who are exercising their God-given right to investigate these questions before replying with “canned” responses drilled into them from their time in Seminaries.
Notice that some of these responses include quoting scriptures that appear to justify their position, yet it creates huge contradictions in many other parts of the Bible.
Satan did this with Eve, he even tried it on with Jesus Christ Himself.
Proverbs tell us that it is very foolish to answer a matter before exploring all the facts.
If commentators on this post and, indeed on the one that I did on this subject…
/prophecy/2015/10/no-one-is-going-to-hell-the-astonishing-prophecy-of-the-last-great-day-2473540.html
wish to challenge what’s being said, then let them investigate properly…
http://www.godintercedes.com/global.html
Click on the above link where the entire exposure of this evil doctrine is laid bare scripture by scripture.
Tell me Catholic heretic, if Hell doesn’t exist then why did God give His only begotten, precious Son to be tortured and tormented and THEN laid the sins of all of mankind on Him to DEATH?
You know NOTHING of the things of God and you are in great danger of ending up in the place you say doesn’t exist, especially if you continue to deny TRUTH spreading your toxic, Christ denying blasphemy without having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ; the ONLY way to escape Hell.
All of your schooling has been futile lies. You should read up on the history of the King James Bible and understand that since the writing of the first scripture, there have been “certain men who have crept in unawares… who have turned the word of God into lasciviousness denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ” (Jude 3) and those are some of the ones who claim that Hell doesn’t exist.
The Masoretic Text (the very text whereby we have received our 1611 King James Version) and the rest of the Scripture that was inspired by “holy men of God who spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost” is what the King James Bible is and the RCC favored Douay Rheims and any other version including the NIV, NTSB, NKJB, NESV, or any of the new versions (much too many to be listed here) by world publishers who have changed God’s eternal word, come from the corrupt Alexandrian Text.
Not only do you attack Jesus Christ by calling Him a liar and telling Him that His SAVING GRACE doesn’t really keep anyone from Hell – a place that is continually warned about throughout Scripture but you promote your vain imaginations on a public forum!
check this out:
http://www.divinerevelations.info/mary_k_baxter_a_divine_revelation_of_hell.htm
HELL
Eternal conscious torment was a part of the sadistic teaching of Augustine. Hell was a profitable institution for Rome.
Our English word “hell” is the translation of one Hebrew and two Greek words.
Hebrew: sheol
Sheol is translated:
”grave” 32 times
”hell” 31 times
”pit” 3 times
”As to the rendering ‘hell,’ it does not represent sheol, because both by Dictionary definition and by colloquial usage ‘hell’ means the place of future punishment. Sheol has no such meaning, but denotes the present state of death. ‘The grave’ is, therefore, a far more suitable translation, because it visibly suggests to us what is invisible to the mind, viz., the state of death. It must, necessarily, be misleading to the English reader to see the former put to represent the latter.
”The student will find that ‘THE grave,’ taken literally as well as figuratively, will meet all the requirements of the Hebrew sheol: not that sheol means so much specifically ‘A grave’, as generically, ‘THE grave’…
”Sheol therefore means the state of death; or the state of the dead, of which the grave is a tangible evidence. … It may be represented by a coined word, Grave-dom, as meaning the dominion or power of the grave.” 1
Greek: hades
This Greek word is defined in the Old Testament:
”For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell [sheol]; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption” (Psalms 16:10).
Then in the New Testament, Psalms is quoted:
”Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell [hades], neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption” (Acts 2:27).
Therefore, the Bible defines the Greek word “hades” as the Hebrew word “sheol.”
Greek: gehenna
Gehenna was a historical place. It is the dump where Jerusalem burnt its trash. It is used metaphorically of the “removal of your trash.”
Peter warned,
”But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction” (II Peter 2:1).
Damnable heresies are “heresies of destruction or perdition.”
“The teaching that the punishment of the unrighteous begin at the moment of death is a very serious blot on the justice of God. If this is the truth, then Cain, who died about six thousand years ago has already endured six millenniums of punishment, while another murderer who dies today begins to suffer today. Therefore Cain will have to suffer six thousand years more for the same crime than the murderer who dies today.
“If two men charged with identical crimes and equally guilty were sentenced, one for five years and the other for ten years, all men who love justice would cry out against such a miscarriage of justice. Shall we not also cry out against any teaching that insists that one man suffer six thousand years more than another for the identical crime? It is indeed a fearful travesty on truth to teach that men are tortured for their sins before they ever have their day in court, and that later they do have their day in court merely to receive a sentence that is determined beforehand. Would not this make the justice of the great white throne to be of the same character as the justice ordered by a Mexican general who said, ‘Give the man a fair trial, then shoot him.’ Can this be the justice of God? Can this be the teaching of the Word of God? Do you know that it is? Are you sure that it is? Or can it be that you just do not care?
“The contention that God’s holiness is of such nature that His justice can never be satisfied by anything save eternal conscious suffering as the penalty for sins needs to be carefully examined. If this dogma is true, then this is the penalty Christ should have paid when He died for our sins. He paid the debt that we owed to God, but He did not suffer eternally. If the debt we owed was ‘eternal suffering’ then that debt has never been paid. Jesus Christ suffered just six hours on the Cross. He did not suffer eternally.
“If we would know of God’s wrath against sin, we need to look at the Cross. We will learn from this that our God does punish sin, but we will also learn that the wages of sin is death and not eternal conscious torment.” 2
Speaking of the roots of “hell,” Bullinger writes, “This is a heathen word and comes down to us surrounded with heathen traditions, which had their origin in Babel, and not in the Bible, and have reached us through Judaism and Romanism.” 3
THE GRAVE
All men go to the same place.
”For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again” (Ecclesiastes 3:19,20).
The dead are not in heaven.
”And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven” (John 3:13).
”Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day. … For David is not ascended into the heavens” (Acts 2:29,34).
Death does not take one to be with the Lord. Death is an enemy (“the last enemy that shall be destroyed is death” I Corinthians 15:26). The only way believers can go to heaven and be with the Lord is for Him to come and get them at His coming.
”For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven … So shall we ever be with the Lord” (I Thessalonians 4:17).
The dead are in their graves.
”…All who are in their graves shall hear His voice” (John 5:28).
”…Them that sleep in the dust shall awake…” (Daniel 12:2).
”…Ye that dwell in the dust..” (Isaiah 26:19).
The dead are always said to be where their bodies are.
”…Abraham buried Sarah his wife in the cave of the field of Machpelah …” (Genesis 23:19).
”… There was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife” (Genesis 25:10).
”So David slept with his fathers, and was buried …” (I Kings 2:10).
”Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day” (Acts 2:29).
”And Solomon slept with his fathers, and he was buried in the city of David his father…” (II Chronicles 9:31).
”And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him” (Acts 8:2).
“Death of the body” and “resurrection of the body” are not Biblical expressions. Death is the death of the person. Resurrection is the resurrection of the person. In the Bible it is the person that is said to die.
THE WAGES OF SIN
The Scripture is very plain as to the penalty of sin:
“For the wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23).
Contemporary Christianity still has not shaken off the Roman, Dark-age superstition that the penalty of sin is eternal conscious torment of the wicked in hell.
Tradition would have us believe that Romans 6:23 really means “the wages of sin is eternal conscious torment in fiery hell.” Nonetheless, the Scriptures say that the penalty is death.
In fact, if the penalty of sin is eternal conscious torment of the wicked in hell, then Christ cannot be the Saviour of the world, for He has not made such a payment for sin.
Christ is the Saviour of the world, and He did make the full and complete payment for sin. He did so by dying for the sins of the world.
“Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures” (I Corinthians 15:3).
“Who His own self bare our sins in His own body on the tree” (I Peter 2:24).
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” (I John 2:2)
“And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.” (John 4:42)
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1. E. W. Bullinger, A Critical Lexicon and Concordance to the English and Greek New Testament, 367p.
2. Cited by Otis Q. Sellers, The Study of Human Destiny, 1955, page 17.
3. Bullinger’s Lexicon
From urqa.com
Before you’re cold enough to be ruled out, you need to grasp the concept an the beauty of what hell is’, take note of the potentially energetic spewed out waste, (crap), its eventual usefulness, an that if this substance of elemental cataclysm, equalling hell, burns out, stops working, no motion, A BURNING HELL ‘freezers’ over, = elemental lifes non existence, an no reason for elemental cosmos.
You need to browse the cosmos thoroughly, an think why all this, is’, then think why you think why, then what is the purpose of you having the ability of thinking why.
The overall usefulness, as a human, the gaining of reason, the progress, the betterment, even if it takes infinity you seed creators genius, with all the motion that is.
To realise the whys, doubting oneself, one laughs it off, find the paradoxical components of creation, that you may know the meaning of hell.
Noted: They get the non existence thing, which is perfect to NOT be.
Some times jus follow the nose/knows,
you all keep saying jesus is god and yet everywhere he states…….
Luke 18:18-19 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
like he says why you calling him good, the only one that is is god as stated by him!!!!!!!!!
do you actually read and understand or just read and go that person over there says so, well who is that over there that says so and where is his credentials from god
because where is the undeniable truth???? why you all arguing about that jesus is god????? if there was undeniable truth????? where jesus in numerous places talks of god the one he follows!!!!!!!!!
THE ONE…….the ONE coming!!!!!!!
so if jesus and all the rest are followers of GOD, what will he do?????? the commands of his god???, or what you say or want, think about that
greybeard;
You’re correct, Jesus is not God. When they all call Jesus God, and say there is a trinity, they are actually insulting God, Jesus, and committing the unforgiveable sin of “greiving the spirit”, meaning God’s holy spirit. They refuse to believe anything except what their false religions tell them. they believe the false religions over what the scriptures say. Pretty weird. But, very common.
“Luke 18:18-19 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.”
Christ is rebuking the questioner. He is pointing out the questioners lack of faith.
In todays speak…the verse would be considered a sarcastic remark.
Consider these verses in opposition to your argument:
1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.
Heb 1:1-13 (NKJV) “God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For to which of the angels did He ever say: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”? And again: “I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son”? 6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: “Let all the angels of God worship Him.” 7 And of the angels He says: “Who makes His angels spirits And His ministers a flame of fire.” 8 But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” 10 And: “You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands. 11 They will perish, but You remain; And they will all grow old like a garment; 12 Like a cloak You will fold them up, And they will be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not fail.” 13 But to which of the angels has He ever said: “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?”
I actually prefer this version from the KJV
Heb 1:1-13
1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
CrowPie;
1 Ti 3:16 Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’
IT IS REFERRING TO THE CHRIST, NOT TO GOD. YOU ARE USING A FALSE TRANSLATION.
WORD FOR WORD FROM KOINE INTO ENGLISH:
3:16 and confessedly great is the of the revering well mystery; Who was manifested in flesh, was justified in spirit, was seen to angels, was preached in nations, was believed in world, was taken up in glory.
NOWHERE IN THE CONTEXT BEFORE OR AFTER THESE VERSES, DOES IT SAY THEY ARE SPEAKING ABOUT GOD THE FATHER. THEY DO INDICATE THEY ARE SPEAKING ABOUT JESUS THE CHRIST, THE MESSIAH. YOU ARE INCORRECT.
THE KJV AND NKJV HAVE REMOVED GOD’S PERSONAL NAME, JEHOVAH, AND REPLACE IT WITH LORD AND GOD MAKING IT VERY CONFUSING. THAT WAS THEIR INTENTION IN MISTRANSLATING THESE SCRIPTURES. THE TWO BIBLES, KJV AND NKJV ARE THE VERY WORST, AS FAR AS ACCURACY, TO EVER EXIST. THEY ARE SO MISLEADING BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO FURTHER THE PAGAN BELIEFS INJECTED INTO CHRISTIAN BELIEFS WHEN THEY CREATED CHRISTENDOM IN THE EARLY FOURTH CENTURY. THE KING JAMES BIBLE VERSIONS ARE ALSO NOT RENDERED FROM ORIGINAL TEXTS, BUT FROM EXISTING TRANSLATIONS IN OTHER BIBLES. NO ORIGINAL WORK WAS DONE. THEY WERE CREATED TO SATISFY A KING AND HIS PARLIAMENT. ANYONE WISHING TO KNOW GOD AND HIS SON JESUS SHOULD NEVER USE A FAULTY TRANSLATION. TRUTH IS THE GOAL AND IT CANNOT BE ACHIEVED USING FALSE TRANSLATIONS. JESUS AND GOD THE ALMIGHTY ARE TWO SEPARATE PERSONS. NO TRINITY EXISTS AS IT IS ONLY A PAGAN BELIEF, NOT CHRISTIAN. IT IS, HOWEVER A BELIEF OF CHRISTENDOM WHICH IS MOSTLY PAGAN. ALL SECTS/DENOMINATIONS ARE OF THAT PAGAN CHRISTENDOM, THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN AS THEY CLAIM. THEY ARE LYING.
You really should go to the full answer I gave Grey beard that involves nearly every verse in the bible that pertains to this subject. It is on the thread (sorry I can’t remember the article) where you, Mayhem and Walter are arguing bitterly.)
I often wondered why JWs didn’t believe that Jesus wasn’t God…..at least now I know.
I disagree with you, know. I think if you go and read the other answer you will see why.
CrowPie;
I don’t argue bitterly, but Walter and Mayhem certainly do throw around personal attackis and neither have a very good understanding of the scriptures. That’s what they call “sophomoric”. They have some knowledge and think they’re the world’s expert on it, when actually they continue to embarrass themselves, and refuse to admit it. It’s sad because Jehovah and Jesus both told all to show humility. To imitate THEIR humility. Walter and Mayhem are on the exact opposite of the spectrum from humble. They think there is nothing more for them to learn, ever. I’ve STUDIED the scriptures for well over 40 years, cover to cover, over and over and I still have lots to learn.
I’m not taking sides in this Mike.
I was only using it as a descriptor or location marker.
I wish I could find it again myself.
Here you go, Crow…
/prophecy/2015/10/the-deity-messiahship-of-jesus-lord-of-all-jesus-is-god-the-word-of-god-is-clear-video-oyep-2473826.html
Thanks, Walter.
I only wish that piece had been done in the King James version.
In most Roman communities in the early first century, hell meant “common grave of mankind” the same as hades and sheol mean grave.
People don’t like to hear about hell. But I’m here to tell you that if Jesus is not your personal Savior, you are on your way to hell my friend. Some of you will be upset at this bad news. Tell me this…if your house were on fire, would you want me to let you know? Of course you would!!! You’d probably thank me for telling you. So it is only because I care about you that I am sharing the truth of God’s Word with you. If you go to hell, YOU will be the one on fire.
Hell may be a politically incorrect topic these days, but many people enter hell everyday. Many sincere folks cannot comprehend the idea of a Loving God sending anyone to an eternal place of fire and doom. However, if a person believes in God at all, then the fact that God allows world suffering to exist must be taken into consideration. Why does God allow war? Why does God allow the innocent to suffer as evildoers? The fact is friend, God does allow it. The reason is because of Man’s wicked sin. Sin kills, steals and destroys!
Sadly, out of the estimated 150,000 people that die everyday, most end up in hell. Jesus taught, “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it” (Matthew 7:13,14). There are an estimated 4 billion people in the world. Do the math! If a person lives to be an average of 70, how many people will die on average in a day? The answer is 156,555 people per day. The Bible clearly teaches that FEW people make it to heaven; MANY go into eternal destruction. Sadly, I fear that 99% of these 150,000 people end up in hell!
Hell is a real place friend, despite the fact that people laugh and say that they want to go there. Billionaire, Ted Turner, mockingly said he looked forward to going to hell because he knew he deserved it. Bill Gates said he doesn’t know whether there’s a God or not. Warren Buffet in an atheist. So many people “think” they have heaven upon this earth, but hell awaits them. They simply don’t understand how terrible hell is. Just because you’ve never seen hell doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. We have a searing, accurate description of what hell is like in God’s word (We’ll get to some scriptures in a minute). Hell is awful and you truly don’t want to go there. Before I was saved, I had idolized rock-stars like Ozzy Osbourne. I didn’t think much of it back then in my teenage years, but now as I get older; I am seeing these rock-stars of my youth growing older.
These old codgers are all dying their hair, wearing wigs, makeup and the works. My heart goes out to them because I grew up with their music. Even though I now realize the damnation behind their Satanic works, I hurt for their souls because I know judgment day is fast approaching for them. I hurt when I hear of someone like Ozzy dying in his sins. I was saddened at the death of Frank Sinatra; He lived his life in sin and shame. He mocked the great evangelist Billy Sunday in his hit, “Chicago”–”The town Billy Sunday couldn’t shut down!” I am totally convinced that Sinatra went to hell–that is my opinion. Hell will be filled with the Ozzy’s, Madonna’s and Michael Jackson’s of the world. I would not want to have to stand before God for leading millions of youngsters into sin and unbelief. How sad! How tragic!
Satan, the god of this world, WILL NOT always cause havoc. His doom is already foretold, “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Revelation 20:10). Did you know that if you do not belong to Jesus Christ you belong to Satan? You don’t have to be a card carrying Satanist to serve Satan. You don’t have to be a murderer, drunkard or drug addict either. All you have to do is ignore Jesus Christ. If you don’t have Jesus today, you are deceived and hell bound–you are a child of hell, a child of the devil. Though this may sound harsh, it is true friend. God loves you and wants to save you; He asks nothing in return. “…him that cometh to me in will in no wise cast out” (John 6:37).
How many times have I heard someone say, “A loving God wouldn’t put His creation in hell.” I have news for you, friend; God doesn’t put anyone in hell–their sin of unbelief puts them there! Hell was created for the devil and his angels–
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS. (Matthew 25:41)
Men and women go to hell because they choose the devil’s way and reject the Lord Jesus. God is holy and cannot allow any sin into His kingdom. As a result, when people die in their sins they are forever banished from the presence of God to a place called hell. Incidentally, Satan won’t be ruling in the lake of fire. He’ll be screamin’ and hollerin’ just like everybody else–
the devil…shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Revelation 20:10)
God does not want you in hell! Jesus came to save you from that horrible place! Don’t lie and say God puts people in hell! Get right with Jesus and you won’t go there! Look at these scriptures:
“As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die.” (Ezekiel 33:11)
“The Lord is…not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” (II Peter 3:9)
The Bible says that God loved the world so much, that the Creator of this universe (Jesus Christ); came to “taste death” for every man. Jesus wasn’t just some baby for a manger scene. He is God come in the flesh to destroy the power of death and hell. Jesus is the key to heaven! If you say “yes” to Jesus, hell won’t be your final destination; If you say “no” to Jesus, hell will be your eternal home. It’s Jesus or hell, turn or burn.
Regardless of whether you believe it or not, hell exists! The Bible says that hell is never full. I’ve heard many folks say that hell is just the grave (Sheol). Well, let’s take a look at what the Bible says. Here are a few scriptures that teach about hell and the lake of fire. At the final judgment; hell, death and those not written in the book of life will be cast into the lake fire.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/hellisreal.htm
You are right to say that hell does not exist. But the lake of fire does exist. The two words used for hell in the NT are ghenna and hades. Ghenna was a garbage dump outside Jerusalem where they burned refuse and Hades is the Greek god of the underworld. Jesus used both words 12-14 times each as a description of the lake of fire. However, where you miss the point is this: No One Burns Forever in the Lake of Fire except those who during the time of the antichrist which is the last 3 1/2 years of the tribulation take the mark and worship the beast. These are the only ones as per Rev 14 and Matt 25. The rest of the unbelievers are cast into the lake of fire, but that is where they perish or are destroyed (almost instantly) as per John 3:16 and many other scriptures. Much more than I can say here. See ItsHisStory.com for the full version.
If you haven’t been married to my X, then you just don’t know. But let me assure you “hell” does exist………
Read Mary K Baxter’s book “A divine Revelation of Hell” as she was shown that nasty place, she describes it in the form of a body and that body from other sources is of the fallen angel Hades. Hell is Hell because of the creatures within and anybody that chooses that path will end there.
Note: Christian are part of the body of Christ!
(Free copy of that book on the internet)
KJV
Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
HEY UNBELIEVERS, ATHEISTS, AGNOSTICS, GODLESS HUMANISTS who refute any belief in Hell….
take a look at these two clips…
http://sidroth.org/television/tv-archives/earthquake-kelley-week-1-2
http://sidroth.org/television/tv-archives/earthquake-kelley-week-2-2
you unrepentent Universalists out there might take a look too….
You need to read the Bible – not some modern INTERPRETATION of it as is what the new “versions” are. They are NOT a “TRANSLATION” – they are the INTERPRETATION of the author.
Yes God is a God of love, but He is Also the JUDGE ! He says He disciplines and punishes those He loves to correct their mis-travels into the evil side of existence that will destroy them.
I assure you hell is real. God says so. He told us of the eternity of fire and brimstone and ETERNALL TORTURE and God does not do it, the person by their own choice does it to themselves. Look into the real Bible – it’s all there.
And look up Lazarus where the man in hell looks up into heaven and speaks to Lazarus in heaven, begging him to tell his brothers not to take the same path he did to end up in HELL.
People can believe there is no hell all they want to – but it is still there and they are still going, unless they fully repent to God and take Jesus as their one and ONLY Savior (( no man including a priest can forgive sins or tell you that God has done so – only the direct link To Jesus Christ to ask for forgiveness CAN give you that forgiveness.)) – because we only get to heaven through the righteousness of Jesus, because He took our place on the cross and paid our price for OUR sins. NO ONE ELSE did that for us.
There is only ONE WAY to God’s heaven, not the many ways the deceivers tell you to think today – READ for yourself in the REAL Bible (KJV = is a TRANSLATION, NOT AN INTERPRETATION) Read John chapter 14
Then read Matt 5:22,29,30 ; Matt 10:28 ; Matt 23:33
2 Peter 2:4 ** ; Everlasting fire = hell Matt 25:41
These are just a few verses. But read them = if you die in your sins you will go to hell ! Period !
John 14:6 ONLY ONE WAY TO GOD AND HEAVEN !!
And no man made church can get you there !
littledimfeather
Have you found a secret scripture that states “we are all going to heaven” or “the reward of the saved is heaven” or “when we all get to heaven”. nope!
John 3
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
The GIFT of God IS eternal life not heaven.
The reward of God are position as kings and lords
Revelation 3
21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne
revelation 5
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: —and —we shall reign on the earth.
EVERLASTING FIRE = HELL. The fire, and torture is EVERLASTING and never goes out for all eternity. What you do to others here in this short part of your lifetime I believe is what you will experience over and over for all eternity in HELL.
Hence the word = EVERLASTING !
The man in hell who spoke to Lazarus in heaven begging Lazarus to warn his brothers not to live evil ways so they came to this place of such Torture ! Hell only exists, it is a place of ETERNAL Torture and suffering ! The real Bible tells us this.
And no priest can forgive sins or say they are forgiven – only God can do that. To place a man in the place of God, is blasphemy. And that itself is SIN. SIN cannot enter into God’s heaven.
There will be many so-called “Christians (and there are a ton of Counterfeit Christians today including many “ministers”) who will say to God – ” I did this and that in your name ( they will give a long list of things they did)” and God will answer them – “Depart from me, I never knew you ! ” and they will be condemned to hell for all ETERNITY because the soul never dies. Their bodies will be also restored to them to enter hell, but they will not get the Glorified bodies that those going to heaven will get.
Remember Hitler called himself a Christian too, as do many today, and Hitler did all he did in the “name of Christianity” – he was a deceiver, and we have many here today – do not fall for them. If it’s not in the Bible, it is not true or real.
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I think some people may be reading too much into this and some are not getting the point at all. First let me clear the air, the Lord blessed me with the gift of Clarity and I gave my life to him wholly and fully!! Once I made that decision the overwhelming sense of peace flooded me as I felt the fullness of the Holy Spirit. I put away all my bad habits, language, don’t listen to music, very limited tv and can finally comprehend the Bible. I do know as I have always known that there is only one way to God and that is through his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, who died on the cross so our sins can be forgiven and we may be accepted into Heaven and NOTHING has ever shaken my faith.
My main points are that if their is a ‘hell” that burns human souls for all eternity than we have a few things wrong. 1. Jesus did not fulfill his mission because our sins have not been forgiven and he is the one who is in charge of our destiny. 2. I will repeat this again, IT’S A CONTRADICTION to be promised everlasting peace, love, harmony,life and happiness while BILLIONS of bodies/souls are burning for all eternity!! Use common sense, what kind of God do you worship? Mine doesn’t do that. Yes there may be a hell but more of a burn pile to discard those who opposed him and when that fire is out they will be no more because the Bible also says that that memory of those we know that aren’t with us will be gone so we don’t grieve and be sad. 3. In Genesis 3. 19 when talking to Adam & Eve God Says- “By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return” In that simple phrase God lays out the exact ending for Adam & Eve, note that he mentioned any enhancer penalty to it so that gives you a clue as to exactly the very end of your evil existence. One way or another you will be turned to dust and returned to the earth.
Note one thing, I am pointing out documented proof to what I am saying. I praise God every day as often as I can and repent every time as necessary. Please don’t wait until night time because we are not guaranteed even another minute on earth. Talk to Him and Praise Him every chance you get, it may be your last.
One last thing, the Bible warns us near the end of time about several certainties, one, A LOT OF FALSE PROPHETS and the other comes from the book of Revelations as well as there will be come a time when you are going to have to make a tough decision, where man will become so corrupted and people will be oblivious but you will have to “Draw a line in the stand and take man’s word or follow mine”. Thanks to the internet it’s sprouting up all over. The Bible clearly tells us the gates of Heaven are sealed until the 2nd coming and those that are dead are just that. Nobody is going anywhere. In John 5. 28-29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming,in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good ,unto the resurrection of life. If you look on YouTube hundreds of videos of Heaven/Hell Prophetic dreams are there. Just be careful. Remember, the Bible tells us the gates of Heaven are closed, That people are dead according to scriptures until Jesus commands for final Judgement and Hell is a giant burn pile.
I leave you with the following promise from God our Father and then ask yourself if he would then allow Billions to suffer. Here it is. From Revelations 20. 4-5 “And God shall wipe away all the tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying,neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Hey, if God says its so, then it is.
In God’s name I praise you!
Amen
You are quite right that all Jesus’ teaching is about love, forgiveness and repentance.
How could a loving god sentence anyone to a lifetime of torment? Why would he resurrect the dead and then kill most of them them again. Why would he separate the sheep from the goats and then KILL the goats?
It doesn’t make sense. And if it doesn’t make sense, then the interpretation of the scripture or the vision is WRONG.
Here is a thoroughly MODERN interpretation of what John may have seen in his vision of the Lake of Fire and Brimstone which is described so graphically in the Book of Revelation. Go to:
http://www.theamazingbookofrevelation.co.uk/423829969