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Did Eve Have Sex With The Devil or Did She Just Eat Some Fruit? – Part 2 – Cain and Abel.

Wednesday, September 26, 2012 6:05
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OK, Genesis 4:1 what’s going on here, because it makes no sense when we add in the evidence which I revealed in part one, so I will copy it here again:

 

Gen 4:1-2 (KJV) And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

 

Now before I expound on the other writings let’s look at the KJV first to see if we can make any sense of it: “And Adam knew Eve, his wife,” hello, excuse me, Adam did what? Adam had already ‘known’ his wife in the garden, so how is it that after expulsion from the garden he is only now ‘knowing’ his wife as if for the first time? Notice, it doesn’t say “And Adam knew Eve his wife again”. Then it says she conceived and bare Cain and not only that but she says she has gotten a man from the Lord. We then have Eve conceiving and baring Abel, but with Adam having only known her once, so what’s going on here!!?? We need to understand that Eve fell pregnant due to sinful, evil, promiscuous and lascivious sexual acts and then declares she has been blessed with a man from the Lord. How does that work then, does the Lord bless sin? We only have to recall what happened to King David’s child through his illicit sexual shenanigans with Bathsheba to know that the Lord does not bless the fruits of the womb of Biblical characters when they misbehave. You can read the story in 2 Samuel 12 and in particular verse 15.

 

Make no mistake Eve’s evil union with the Devil would, and could, only bring trouble, not only to her, but to Adam, and for all mankind in the future as well, culminating in the flood and the sinful post flood world, too i.e. our world today. If we know the story, we will also know that the fruits of this event would be graphically displayed in the way in which Cain turns out i.e. what kind of a being he was – a human being; Cain was the first human being. That being the case, what was Eve really saying when she said she had: “gotten a man from the Lord?” This KJV ‘evidence’ also raises another question, how did Eve come to the conclusion that Cain was a gift from the Lord. We know that Adam and Eve’s sin in the garden was sexual in nature, because they covered themselves with aprons to hide their shame. This means that Eve must have had a good idea of whose child she was carrying in her womb. That being the case, how did she come to the conclusion that it was a gift from the Lord? How does that make any sense? Furthermore, how did the translators of the KJV think they were going to get away with this nonsense – the nonsense of Eve’s statement that: “she had gotten a man from the Lord”? Was it a case that they thought she was completely naïve, I don’t think so, because all they wanted to do was hide the truth that Cain was literally a son of the Devil. Why did they want to do that and what did they have to gain from such devious behaviour? All will be revealed as this series of articles develops!

 

Moreover, if we continue to accept the story line as written in the KJV, we then have to ask ourselves if Cain and Abel were twins, for it appears that Adam only ‘knows’ Eve once. So if Eve did have twins, could these twins have had different fathers – a phenomenon known in medical terms today as superfetation? Well, it has been known, and more often than we might at first think. A little Google search will soon reveal and confirm to you this anatomical phenomenon. Therefore, Cain and Abel could have been twins with the Devil as Cain’s father, and Adam as Abel’s father. The thing is, twins or not, it’s the two seeds or seed lines that matter here, nothing else, for this is the core of the matter. Now before we move on to the other writings, let’s add another Holy Scripture here to help us unravel this mystery:

 

1 John 3:12 (KJV) Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous. (Emphasis mine)

 

Notice in this verse of John’s letter we have Cain who was “of that wicked one”. The word ‘of’ here in Strong’s Concordance means ‘origin’, so Cain’s “origins” are of the Devil which again points to him being the Devil’s seed. I will return to this verse again, in part three of this series of articles, for there is much more Truth to be gleaned from it.

 

More evidence, too, is made plain through the genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5. Notice, you will not find Cain’s name mentioned in that genealogy, why is that? Well, quite obviously, because Cain was not Adam’s child. I will copy the evidence here:

 

Gen 5:3 (KJV) And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth.

 

Now why did Moses write this verse like that? Why, to draw to our attention the fact that Seth was made in Adam’s own likeness, after his own image, but why make special reference to that? What other image could Eve have born in her womb, if it was not in Adam’s image and in his likeness!!?? Well obviously, this verse is telling us without actually saying it, that of the two sons Cain and Abel, Abel now deceased, only one of them was in Adam’s image and in his likeness – Abel. Elsewhere in the Holy Scriptures it tells us that Seth is a child born to Adam and Eve to take Abel’s place:

 

Gen 4:25 (KJV) And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. (Emphasis mine)

 

So this means that from Adam we have Abel (murdered) and then Seth who begat Enos, who begat Cainan, who begat Mahalaleel, who begat Jared, who begat Enoch, who begat Methuselah, who begat Lamech and who begat Noah. So there we have it, the Sethitic line from Adam to Noah.

 

Moving on again, I will now copy here what it says in documents known as the Aramaic Targum(s). Those of you not familiar with these writings, Aramaic Targums are ancient Jewish writings dating from around the time of the Jews captivity in Babylon, so this means they date from around 550 BC. In general these writings are blasphemous in their content and I would not recommend them to Christian brothers and sisters at all. Having said that we cannot conclude that everything written therein is error for Truth can be found in the most unlikely of places e.g. the caves where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found. OK, so here is the writing:

 

And Adam knew that his wife Eve had conceived from Sammael the angel (of death) and she became pregnant and bore Cain. And she said: “I have got a man from theangel of the LORD.”

 

Now here we can plainly see this verse has a completely different narrative altogether and tells us a very different story from that in the KJV. It also begins to make some sense. We know that the Devil was always going to try and thwart The Lord’s plans for his pinnacle of creation – mankind. We are, after all, made in His image and what better way to thwart that plan than by literally polluting The Lord’s creation by intercourse with His creation, Eve. Notice how Eve’s statement has changed and the naïvety of her KJV statement revealed for what it is – meaningless nonsense.  

 

Returning to the KJV, notice, too, how Eve is known as the “mother of all living” but Adam is not known as the ‘father of all living’:

 

Gen 3:20 (KJV) And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

 

The word ‘was’ here should more accurately be translated ‘was to become’ and of course she did become the mother of all living but Adam is nowhere known as the ‘father of all living’. This then tells us that Eve sired children from another source other than Adam, and, of course, that source was the Devil.

 

If we now return to Genesis 4:1-2 we can then see that after Eve conceived Cain she then bare Abel but it doesn’t say how long the interval between the two conceptions was, so as I said earlier some commentators say Cain and Abel were twins, others that Abel followed swiftly nine months later. Either way they were of a similar age and grew up together, one, Abel, being a keeper of sheep and the other, Cain, a tiller of the ground.

 

The story then continues with Cain’s infamous wicked act of murdering his half-brother, but what was behind this act? All will be revealed in part three.

 

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  • Louis

    Good grief, whoever wrote this article is seriously confused.

    The devil (Lucifer) is an invisible spirit of evil that is incapable of assuming a human form. All he can do is possess certain humans or creatures — but only with God’s permission.

    At the time of Genesis, only two humans existed: Adam and Eve. So the devil was allowed to possess a serpent in order to tempt Eve to commit a sin. This is called a “necessary” sin and was passed on to all future generations to necessitate the need for mankind to be redeemed through the self-sacrifice of Christ and the humble cooperation of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

    God wants all men to share in His glory, but He also wisely does not want to give this gift away without a struggle, lest men lose sight of its value.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, that is false. Angels came in human form to Abraham as the messengers and to Lot to warn of the coming destruction. The perverts of Sodom and Gomorrah were even trying to have the angels for sexual purposes so that would indicate that for all intents and purposes the angels were in human form. Lucifer being an angel could also take human form ……… or serpent form for that matter.

      • Louis

        Actually, you are seriously steeped in error. Nowhere in the Bible does it indicate that fallen angels, such as Lucifer, have the power to assume a human form of flesh and blood. God’s loyal angels, on the other hand, are endowed by their Creator with the faculty to translate themselves from invisibility into a human form for the purpose of serving God’s holy will. The Bible cites many instances of this.

        God’s power, compared to the devil’s power, is like the Sun compared to the moon.

        Lucifer can do nothing without first asking God’s permission. Cite the second chapter of JOB when Lucifer petitions God for permission to afflict Job to test his faith.

        You attribute more power to Lucifer than he actually has. Furthermore, Lucifer has never seen God in the unveiled fullness of his Divine Glory. Nor does the devil know God’s name.

        In addition to all the titles by which we know God, he also has a proper name. “”He has a name written which no man knows except himself.” (APOC. 19:12)

        Lucifer will never learn this name, nor will he ever see God in the fullness of his Divine Glory. That privilege has been reserved for the saved when they join the Lord at the Wedding Feast of the Lamb in Heaven at the end of time.

        Before you attempt to interpret Holy Scripture, read what the Doctors and Fathers of the Church have taught regarding these matters. If you don’t, you will wind up deceiving people and yourself.

        I would also advise that you read from a Bible that has not been altered and abridged by heretics. Far too many articles appear on the web that are written by confused, misguided pastors quoting from inaccurate versions of Holy Scripture.

      • yes2truth

        @ Anonymous I don’t mind being challenged by people who are half way there and just need a little further teaching or coaching to assist them on their journey, but nothing annoys me more that ignorant, arrogant people making moronic comments about something they obviously know nothing about, and you are such a person.

        It is obvious, too, that you have not taken the trouble to read part 1 of this series of articles where I show that Holy Scriptures definitely prove that in the PRE-FLOOD WORLD angels, fallen or otherwise, could easily appear as flesh beings.

        Lucifer never existed – Lucifer is a Roman Catholic corrupting addition to Isaiah 14:12 so the rest of your comment is just more uninformed ignorant nonsense.

        Go here and learn something:

        /religion/2012/09/exposing-the-lucifer-lie-2443680.html

        “I would also advise that you read from a Bible that has not been altered and abridged by heretics.”

        This remark only confirms how blatantly ignorant you are in matters Biblical.

        Finally I am not a pastor I am a messenger of Yashua Anointed.

      • Anonymous

        I said “human form” not “human flesh”. And if you going invoke Biblical citations, please include them so I don’t have to take your words “on faith”.

      • yes2truth

        I’m not into splitting hairs. Human form or human flesh it’s one and the same thing as far as I am concerned for this issue. The Devil was a living creature with the head of a serpent that was made by The Creator – he was never an angel – a spirit being of another kind yes. The only comparisons we have to this creature are these creatures:

        Rev 4:6-7 (KJV) And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts (living creatures) full of eyes before and behind. 7 And the first beast (living creature) was like a lion, and the second beast (living creature) like a calf, and the third beast (living creature) had a face as a man, and the fourth beast (living creature) was like a flying eagle. (Brackets Mine)

        The Devil was like one of these.

    • DaescensionedOne

      Invisible to who? Evil spirit? There is no devil nd dont take serpebt so damn seriously!! Whoever that serpent statement represented is not who or what yu describe. Yu speak about this article that is trying to clear up an obviously intentionaly misdirected interpretation with “lies” yu aere taught by that same misdirected interpretaions. Its lyk if yu were told or taught a lie and yu try to bk up an argument againzt the tfuth facing yu with things yu learned frm the lie. Wow it is yu who needs fo rethink your theories.

  • yes2truth

    Whoever wrote this comment knows nothing and has no understanding of the pre-flood world.

    “THE NECESSARY SIN”!!??? What a load of intellectual Christian religious bull’s crap!!

    Gen 3:1 (KJV) Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.

    The DEVIL WAS MADE he was never Lucifer; he was never a fallen angel; Lucifer never existed.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2012/09/exposing-the-lucifer-lie-2443680.html

    • Anonymous

      Wow. Your ignorance of what is written in the Bible is stupifying.

      • yes2truth

        Care to enlighten me with your ‘genius’ – I haven’t had a good laugh today so be my guest.

      • Anonymous

        When you start citing extra-biblical texts you have to be careful since anyone can right a bunch of heresy. And don’t go off about so and so approved of its authenticity because that, also, is suspect.

        And when you call yourself “Finally I am not a pastor I am a messenger of Yashua Anointed.” God has not used prophets since the resurrection of Christ since there need be no one additional to “point the way” as Christ life, death and resurrection is the ONLY way. After Christ’s resurrection, all those who believe and call on His name become saints and priests of the Most High. Again, we don’t need you pointing the way because we already KNOW the way.

        Your dissertations on Biblical context and meanings are interesting to read and give believers something to think about but they DO NOTHING for salvation except confuse and divert the main message which is the Life, Death, and Resurrection of Jesus the Christ. That is what the Bible was written for (the Word is God). The rest is to give us understanding of why we sin and why He had to come and die for us.

        Hope that enlightens you. My guess is that it’s not. For you have your savior and it’s name is “ego”.

      • yes2truth

        First off, thanks for the good laugh. I ‘love’ the way you write with that pompous self-righteous intellectual style that all bible intellectual know nothings write in. The Truth just is, it doesn’t need authenticating and especially by people not qualified to authenticate anything i.e. people who are spiritually dead.

        “Apostle” from Strong’s Concordance means “messenger”.

        G652

        apostolos
        ap-os’-tol-os
        From G649; a delegate; specifically an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ (“apostle”), (with miraculous powers): – apostle, messenger, he that is sent.

        Being a messenger has nothing to do with being a prophet.

        “Again, we don’t need you pointing the way because we already KNOW the way.”

        Really? I would put it to you that the only way you know is the wide path to destruction.

        Dissertations? No way, I leave those to intellectual babblers like you.

        “DO NOTHING for salvation except confuse and divert the main message which is the Life, Death, and Resurrection of Jesus the Christ.”

        Salvation? Once I start to publish my articles on that i.e. the meaty stuff, we’ll then see what you’re made of. Having said that, I already know what you’re made of, so it will interesting making it public for all to see.

        “The rest is to give us understanding of why we sin and why He had to come and die for us.”

        I don’t sin, so here we can begin to see the cavernous gap that is now beginning to divide me, a truly Born Again son of God living fully under grace, from you, a son of the satanic Christian Religion. You’re ‘eye’ avatar is now beginning to look very appropriate.

        “Hope that enlightens you”

        There is no way darkness can enlighten anything!!

        “For you have your savior and it’s name is “ego”.”

        I only boast in Yashua Anointed, not myself. This is also interesting because it was the Greek intellectuals of the first century that used to accuse Paul of being egotistic. Birds of a feather anyone?

  • DaisyDuke

    Uh…. Retard.

    • yes2truth

      I’ve just checked out DaisyDuke and the link showed nothing. Seems as though you are a major contributor to this web page. Makes me wonder if you have ever done anything useful in your life? LOL

  • Anonymous

    So the Book Of Noah is correct then, the Lords/Gods whatever were extra terrestrials, and they interbred with the race on earth to breed slaves, eg a tiller of the ground/keeper of sheep? Thanks for the confirmation, not that I needed it.

    • yes2truth

      I wouldn’t say that slaves are interbred. People can be born into involuntary servitude, those being the offspring of people already in involuntary servitude e.g. black people bringing children into the world whilst in involuntary servitude on the American plantations.

      Slaves are people who choose to be slaves. The majority of people in Britain, the Commonwealth and The USA today are slaves by choice.

      Cain’s offspring were the hybrid (interbred) slave masters – the pre-flood giants (Nephalim) and original cannibals – CAINnibals.

      Cain’s descendants via Ham and the incestuous relationship with his Cainite mother Naamah (Noah’s wife) producing Canaan are still the slave masters today and they carry the Mark of Cain.

  • whitebear

    Christianity created the Devil. This devil is only 2012+/- years old.

    Get over it or continue to live in fear for nothing.

    You have a choice

    • yes2truth

      What makes you think I live in fear?

      You must not confuse the fear based Christian Religion (Re-Legion a multifaceted demon), with following Yashua Anointed.

      • Venusfreedom777

        yes 2 truth denies the truth that we are all sinners.

  • TruthNow

    I grew up in Bible school learning Eve ate a fruit from the forbidden tree. It wasn’t until I started to research into my adulthood with an unbiased heart that my mind is almost completely changed. I can only argue my point with scipture.

    Genesis 3:6-7
    6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked..”

    Eve had disobeyed. She was “beguiled.” Is it so hard to think that the morning star cast down from heaven found Eve pleasing to the eyes. Is it so hard to believe that the fruits of the trees and the seeds are not literal. Is it so hard to believe that fallen angels had relations with humans? Genesis 6:1-2, “And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the Earth and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw that the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.”

    After Adam and Eve sinned God made a prophesy:
    “The LORD God said to the serpent, ‘Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life; 15And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.’”

    God says he will put enmity between the two seeds: the devils and Eve’s. Here are some more scriptures that relate “seed” to offspring:
    Genesis 9:8-9, “And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him saying, 9 And I establish my covenant with you and with your seed after you.”
    Genesis 15:3, “ And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.”
    (Fruit is also referring to offspring) Genesis 1:28, “And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth,…”

    God’s prophesy is this: “He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.” This is a war between the bloodlines.

    Cain was birthed before Abel. Here is the verse, Gen 4:1-4, “And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.”
    Some of the scripture is Eve’s account (and said). Eve believe’s she has gotten a man from the Lord. The scripture does not specify any length of time between the two sons. It could be months, years. This could explain why Cain is a tiller and Abel a sheep hearder.
    In the ancient Babylonian texts kept by the Jews in 550 BC called the Aramaic Targum(s), here is the verse regarding Eve’s births:
    ““And Adam knew that his wife Eve had conceived from Sammael the angel (of death) and she became pregnant and bore Cain. And said, I have got a man from the angel of the Lord.”

    1 John 3:12, “Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother.”

    There is more scriptural evidence. But that is only up to you to research on your own if your heart is willing. As I don’t have all the answers my only goal is to find truth. I know that we live in an evil world with evil corporations polluting our Earth, greedy politicians/international bankers, and elite families so wealthy they own small countries. One can only follow the signs, connect the dots and maybe (just maybe) uncover that the 1% heavily corrupting our home is a seedline so evil, their blood can be the only reason why.

    • yes2truth

      Have you actually read the article?

  • truthseeker4809

    Neither…
    The elongated skulled beings knew so much about humans. They knew the guilty consciousness of human sexuality especially. To impregnated the concept of original sin into the human brain, they concocted this story of Eve eating the forbidden fruit in the creation story. Totally a Mumbo Jumbo story. Human souls are highly evolved and the human sexuality goes against their high self consciousness built into it. But it was a necessary evil, human procreation!!!

    You can’t make human procreation activity built into the guilty consciousness. Humans will stop procreating.. That will be a disaster.

    These elongated skulled beings knew of this dilemma of the humans and used it against the humanity to enslave them. Unfortunately they died off before the humans.

    Good riddance !!!!

    • Venusfreedom777

      Anonymous is correct

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