Who is Satan?
This is a comment that I have posted in another thread that after reading over it seems much better suited to be an article. There may be more parts to come later or maybe the additional information pertaining to this topic can be added through commentary. I don’t know yet, all I know is that this is very good information and I hope that someone will benefit from this. I’m not too big about posting articles, obviously, I’ve done a lot of commenting on others’ posts and this is the first actual article that I have posted. Enjoy.
Yes, anyone who has ever picked up the book of Moses and read it, and then taken a good look at the world around them can see that the things which are visible are made of things that do not appear; basically, all things in existence are made from the same source particle, the “God Particle” if you will… Different forms of matter including other “particles” are made of different number groupings of “God Particles” glued together by different types of motion/energy into various fashions of various particles, repeat repeat repeat, oh look, it’s an atom! Repeat repeat repeat, oh look, a grain of sand or a drop of water, repeat repeat repeat, oh look its a patch of dirt, repeat repeat repeat, wow, look at that tree! Get the picture? “God” made all things that exist out of bits and pieces of “Himself”, glued together by “His Spirit” and governed/organized/formed by “His Word”, this is why in the beginning, everything was perfect until the little demigod humans decided to f#ck it all up by trying to BE “God”. Now look at what we have, all life on this planet suffers and struggles to remain generation after generation because of US; we are making the earth DESOLATE by our corrupted wisdom(innovation) and our traffick(commerce).
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Ezekiel chapter 28:
The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, “Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, ‘Thus says the Lord God; Because your heart is lifted up, and you have said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet you are a man, and not God, though you set your heart as the heart of God: Behold, you are wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that any can hide from you:(big brother anyone?)
With your wisdom and with your understanding you have gotten riches, and have gotten gold and silver to fill your coffers: By your great wisdom and by conducting of business you have increased your riches, and your heart is lifted up because of your riches:
Therefore thus says the Lord God; Because you have set your heart as the heart of God; Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon you, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of your wisdom, and they shall defile your brightness. They shall bring you down to the pit, and you will die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas. Will you yet say to them that slay you, I am God? but you will be a man, and not a God, in the hand of him that slays you. You will die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, says the Lord God.” – Ezekiel 28: 1-10
****This first part is talking about the governing system put into place by humanity, the system that is now and has been since long before Yeshua was born. The social, political, economic, scientific/education, and religious system of man’s government, rulership, ownership and control over the Earth and it’s inhabitants; the so called “Ruling Elite” system that we all buy into because we believe it’s our only choice if we want to survive…. ****
Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
“Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus says the Lord God; You seal up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. You have been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of your tools and instruments was prepared in you in the day that you were created. You are the anointed cherub that covers(you are appointed to protect creation); and I have set you so: you were on the holy mountain of God; you have walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, until iniquity was found in you.(until you defied the Law)
By the multitude of your merchandise, they have filled the midst of you with violence, and you have sinned: therefore I will cast you as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy you, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.(delete you from existence)
Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty, you have corrupted your wisdom because of your brightness: I will cast you to the ground, I will lay you before kings, that they may see you. You have defiled your sanctuaries by the multitude of your iniquities, by the iniquity of your trade and business; therefore will I bring forth a fire from among you, it shall devour you, and I will bring you to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that look at you. All they that know you among the people(creatures) shall be made desolate by you: you shalt be a destructive event, and shall be totally destroyed.” – Ezekiel 28:11-19
****This second part is believed to be spoken to Lucifer or Satan directly, but many do not realize that Satan is the spirit that drives humanity; it’s humanity in general. God is speaking about the human race of people on the earth specifically, the race that was charged with the task of protecting the earth(anointed cherub that covers). It’s the spirit of mankind, this entity that is being prophesied against in this passage. The race that has the perfect ability to use instruments and tools, that makes jewelry and music, that is increased with knowledge, “was made in the image of God.” This warning is not to an entity that is separate from humanity that causes humans to f#ck up, it is to humanity itself. All of this is happening because we have defied(and continue to defy) the Law…****
Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
“Son of man, set your face against Zidon, and prophesy against it, And say,
Thus says the Lord God; Behold, I am against you, O Zidon; and I will be glorified in the midst of you: and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall have executed judgments in her, and shall be sanctified in her.”
****Now we are getting to the good stuff. He’s talking about religious folk; Spiritual folk****
“For I will send into her pestilence, and blood into her streets; and the wounded shall be judged in the midst of her by the sword upon her on every side; and they shall know that I am the Lord. And there shall be no more a pricking brier unto the house of Israel, nor any grieving thorn of all that are round about them, that despised them; and they shall know that I am the Lord God.”
****There are 2 types of religious folk, there are they that keep the Truth(live by the Law) who are the “house of Israel” and there are the rest of the hypocrites, liars, and corrupt blind faith followers of their own choosing who do not keep the Law(pricking briers, grieving thorns, etc who make the corrupt systems of mankind part of their “religion”)****
“Thus says the Lord God; When I shall have gathered the house of Israel from the people among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified in them in the sight of the heathen, then shall they dwell in their land that I have given to my servant Jacob. And they shall dwell safely therein, and shall build houses, and plant vineyards; yea, they shall dwell with confidence, when I have executed judgments upon all those that despise them round about them; and they shall know that I am the Lord their God.” – Ezekiel 28:20-26
****This is the good part, you see, those who have rejected and completely discarded the corrupt systems of mankind and have turned to keeping the Law in Spirit and in Truth are those who will be spared from the destruction brought on by the deeds of corrupt men. They will have rest, they will be at peace, they will dwell safely in the earth and rebuild the earth as it was intended to be in the beginning and they will live according to the purpose that man was created for in the first place. These are they that will triumph and will live forever, those who walk according to the Law fully. This last portion of Ezekiel 28 talks about the end of the ages old war between Natural and unnatural, Right and wrong, Truth and error, God and man, Light and dark, etc etc. It is a great hope for those of us who love His Law and a great tragedy for those religious who deny His Eternal Authority(Law). I know this to be Truth, because the “Word of the Lord” has come to me proclaiming these same things as well, I have seen in vision this battle between the yellow dirt which is dead and the green earth which has life, I have seen the green earth languish and cry out to the heavens begging for a speedy end and mercy, and I have seen Nature “revolt” against the unnatural of the world; I have seen Nature spare those who are it’s true allies, who live according to the Law, and destroy those who are it’s enemies, yea, the irony is that the enemies of Nature corrupt themselves blindly to the point of destroying themselves by their OWN deeds! This process is witnessed in the body and soul of all those afflicted with disease and sickness, just for instance.****
I don’t really know why I needed to share this with you guys, because I don’t think it pertains to the topic so much, but it is very important information. The message of the whole gospel is contained in this chapter of Ezekiel for those who’s hearts seek to know Him. I hope that someone will read this and their minds will open to the divine judgement, mercy, and goodness of the Father and that they will turn from their wickedness and corruption and cling to His Law, being “born anew” as one man put it, separated from the destructive ways and destruction of humanity and embracing the Purpose of Human Life instead.
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Lucifer does not exist and has never existed:
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Here is Satan:
Gen 3:1 (KJV) Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made.
He doesn’t need to exist. We have you!
Ha Ha The Papist and his shrines no less or are you just another yellow belly coward?
Satan is real. Very real. Just take a look around. God says Satan is the god of this world. And you know what? That’s not hard to believe at all.
Correct, but his name is NOT Lucifer.
The Destroyer – The Adversary – The Devil – The Author of Confusion – The Author of Ruin – That Old Serpent – A Viper of whom the Pharisees were descended both literally and spiritually.
I agree with you for a change. No, don’t fall off your chair.
Lucifer means ‘light bearer’ and is the name given for the astronomical alignment of Venus on the dawn horizon.
Who is Satan?
The 3’000 year old Egyptian invented giant invisible fairy story characters side kick, the talking snake.
And King Nebuchadnezzar became an ox and chewed grass with them in the fields until he humbled himself before his Creator. So I would be careful Pix, for you never know at what hour The Father will make Himself known to you.
No thanks I have far better morals. How can you even contemplate worshipping such a vile genocidal monster?
When He calls you will have one option and answer alone – “Here am I”
You strain at a nat but swallow the camel whole
Who does?
Pix: The 3’000 year old Egyptian invented giant? the Pentateuch is over 5000 years old, that supersedes your 3000 year old Egyptian allegory. The Law was given to Adam in oral form which was passed down to Abel. Abel was a righteous Priest. The term “keeper of sheep” Gen 4:2 means Teacher of Righteousness. Gesenius’ Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon by Edward Robinson, Page 987.
Righteousness is the keeping of the Law (Torah) Deuteronomy 6:25 This is how Abraham was judged as righteous because he kept my Law,statutes and commandment Genesis 26:5, These teachings were with them from the beginning, Joseph is the one who taught this in Egypt because of his position there, he had clout, about 300 years before Moses and his group.
The Egyptians got the scriptures from the Hebrews not the other way around brother. Here is another reason why you’re confused, the King James Bible was edited by Sir Francis Bacon under strict Masonic supervision, A Mason! really? these people are no dummies brother, they translated it exactly how they want the world to see it. Notice how they make the Creator out to be a “mean, vengeful god” couldn’t be farther from the truth.
Ummm not exactly, see the Law is what all of creation is built on. The Law did not have to be passed down in verbal/oral form because even today it is witnessed as the government of Nature; it always has been and always will be. “Human nature” is contrary to the Nature that was established by the Father and His Word. We have 2 choices, we can either harmonize with Nature and live according to its Law or we can continue to contend with Nature and be destroyed by our own choices, that is the essential message of the “Gospel”. The fact that our salvation is entirely in our own hands in the form of choice and free will, either to turn from our wicked unnatural, corrupt and destructive ways and to the Law, walking according to it in perfect harmony with Nature, or we can reject the Truth(Law) and continue in our own destruction.
did anyone actually read the post?
Yes, I read the post. You were showing them the importance of the Law, but they’re not interested, they’d rather bicker about irrelevant things, besides, it’s only a matter of time before the christians attack you for bringing up the Law.
too late, that’s been going on since I signed up here
And it will continue if I have anything to do with it. I eat wretched Judaisers for breakfast. The only problem is they make me go this billious green colour.
no need. any talk of satan or god can be nothing but BS anyway..
fairy tales are for kids.. grow up already
Sooner rather than later the truth shall be known and shown for all the world to see…
Sadly though, many are going to sit with a problem of Biblical proportion then…
The time to establish a loving relationship with our Creator.., is now!
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REASON YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS I WONDER?
Unfortunately, 7th Day Adventists don’t have The Truth nor do they know The Truth. All they know is The Law.
Ironically your question: “HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REASON YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS I WONDER?”, applies as much to yourself than it does anyone else.
Glass houses and stones anyone?
7th day adventists don’t understand or keep the Law, that’s their problem. See, they try to serve 2 masters and because of that they fall short. They condemn folks for sunday worship and at the same time, they conduct the majority of their “church” business on the sabbath. If Yeshua was walking around today, he’d throw them out of the temple just as he did the money changers in the old days
“7th day adventists don’t understand or keep the Law, that’s their problem.”
And likewise it’s your problem too.
No doubt He would throw you out as well and hopefully with His boot up your arse.
My sister, that at one time understood the truth, now has her own church, she is teaching foolish women about the “Awakening” that is to come.???
Lips appeared on the wall telling her she was very special, from that day she could recite every scripture from memory. She preaches all are god having eternal life already.
She preaches for hours with no notes no preparation, in school she was a D and C student and still can not add 2 plus 2.
She has been on TV, many have followed her for years.
So, pray tell, who has given her this “talent” this ability to lead so many in to death?
According to her Christ was just a “mystic” like many others.
Those that refuse to realize there is a spirit world will soon reverse that belief.
I know of a young man held in bed by ?????, he screamed his sister came in, the room was ice cold –in summer- and he could not get up, he was held down. This is a young man that went to bars to cause fights and never lost, not at all weak. 225 lbs of muscle.
God created 100′s of millions of angels all having free moral agency, as do we, they can obey God and His law or not, just like humans.
If you chose to not believe you do so to your own peril.
“They can obey God and His law or not, just like humans.”
This statement is a lie and a blasphemy.
Read this and learn something for the first time in your wretched life:
Matt 13:10-16 (KJV) And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
And this:
John 6:44 (KJV) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
And this:
John 6:65 (KJV) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Now repent and stop writing Judaising drivel.
The converted keep the Law, the unconverted by Christ own words do not have the ability to do so. Christ says they hate him and his law.
I believe you are laboring under the misconception that this is the only day of salvation.
If it is, God is only able to save a few and the rest are condemned? That is a lie.
My Father will save the majority of mankind but in their own order.
I am not sure of your point above, are you saying angels do not have free will and neither do we? because if so, it is of no matter what we do.
The scripture used above is correctly stating, unless God the Father opens your mind you can not understand the things of God. But the Law cares not who you are, who ever breaks it – it will condemn to death.
One more thought to make it even clearer.
God will not save you against your will — you have the right to reject salvation.
Some will love the power and vanity in this life, as does satan, and will not allow God to forgive them nor will they obey Him to their eternal deaths, death, not eternal punishment.
Satan has eternal life and will be confined in total darkness for eternity.
By the way Jesus Christ is of the Tribe of Judah, a Jew, Was He Judaising?
Wow. It’s ironic that you use this passage from Matthew where Yeshua talks about Isaiah.
“By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes THEY have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.”
This is why you have not been healed, because you have not been converted, because you have not understood with your heart the Truth that is His Law(Word). You read and quote the things that are written, and you THINK yourself knowledgeable but your heart lacks understanding because it does not have the Spirit of the Law within, yea, you fully reject the Law and condemn those who seek to understand it.
“Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my SALVATION SHALL BE FOREVER, and my RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL NOT BE ABOLISHED. Listen and take heed unto me, those of you who know Righteousness(the people in whose heart is my Law); fear not the reproach of men, neither be afraid of their attacks. For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat them like wool: but MY RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL BE FOREVER, and my salvation from generation to generation.” – Yeshua(according to Isaiah)
“Therefore hear, you nations, and know, O congregation, what is among them. Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring destruction upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my Law, but REJECTED IT. To what purpose comes there to me incense from Sheba, and the sweet cane from a far country? your burnt offerings are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet unto me.” – Yeshua(according to Jeremiah)
“Thus says the Lord; If you will not hearken to me, to walk in my Law, which I have set before you, to hearken to the words of my servants the prophets, whom I sent unto you, both rising up early, and sending them, but you have not hearkened; Then I will make this house like Shiloh, and will make this city a curse to all the nations of the earth.” – Yeshua(according to Jeremiah)
“Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy Law IS the Truth.” – David
“I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father but by me.” – Yeshua(according to John)
“Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and you will keep my judgments, and do them.” – Yeshua(according to Ezekiel)
“Whoever commits sin is a Law breaker: for sin IS the breaking of the Law. And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin. Whoever abides in Him sins not: whoever sins(breaks the Law) has not seen Him, neither known Him… Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for His Spirit dwells in him and he cannot sin, BECAUSE he is born of God.” – John(refer to the above from Ezekiel)
@ Truth Seeker
“I am not sure of your point above.”
If you’re not sure of my point then you have no understanding of The Holy Scriptures.
“Are you saying angels do not have free will and neither do we?”
Why are you comparing spirit with flesh?
I am saying unsaved and lost mankind does not have free will.
“Because if so, it is of no matter what we do.”
I did not say that – you’re saying that.
Mankind does not have free will until he is Born of God.
John 8:32 (KJV) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Yashua Anointed is The Truth.
John 8:36 (KJV) If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
“But the Law cares not who you are, who ever breaks it – it will condemn to death.”
The Law has no jurisdiction over anyone Born of God.
Romans 8:1 (KJV) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.
@yes2truth
“John 8:32 (KJV) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Yashua Anointed is The Truth.” – yes2truth
“Your Righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and your Law is the Truth.” – David
“I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father but by me.” – Yeshua(according to John)
According to David, “Yahsua Anointed” is the Law and according to “Yashua Anointed” no man comes to the Father but by Him(the Law).
You have contradicted your own theology and talked yourself into a corner here!
@ Definitely Over with his usual satanic contradictions against The New Covenant.
Thanks for confirming your Old Covenant credentials. There was no need, because we all know you’re just another Pharisee. And what happen to that dog?
Yashua Anointed is The ONLY Truth, being the fulfillment of the law and the prophets, for those Born of God. The Law was nailed to the cross for those who believe.
The Law is only binding on blasphemers like yourself.
““I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father but by me.” – Yeshua(according to John)”
Yes, after this has occured:
John 6:44 (KJV) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:65 (KJV) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Also according to Yashua Anointed, not John – John was just the scribe.
I have no theology, only you have worthless theology and amazingly you think you can pit that against The Truth – Yashua Anointed by scouring around the Old Testament (Old Covenant) like a scavenger in a waste bin. Now that is funny, but also wretched beyond belief.
when everyone who believes slightly like you do finally wipe themselves and each other off of the face of this earth, the rest of us will FINALLY be able to have peace.
Yet another gem of meaningless drivel.
I don’t want everyone in this age, because I know that most people will be a part of the second resurrection. I am only interested in the FEW The Father is calling.
Matt 10:34 (KJV) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
There will be no peace whilst I weald His sword, which is an anagram of Words – His words.
“I don’t want everyone in this age, because I know that most people will be a part of the second resurrection. I am only interested in the FEW The Father is calling.” – yes2truth
“Many are called and few are chosen” – Yeshua(according to Matthew)
The “FEW” you meant to refer to are those you cannot touch, though it is their testimony that you seek to destroy at every turn. These are your targets, because they spread the Truth, Truth that you are adamantly against with every fiber of your being; the Truth that you hate. The Light that burns your wicked eyes is our testimony and I’ll bet if you could you would even try to kill us just to shut us up from talking about Judgment, Mercy, Truth, Love, Life, Forgiveness, Restoration, Righteousness and the Law wouldn’t you, Satan?
No need to answer, you are well known by your rotten fruit, Pharisee.
Who is Satan, well. He was the most beautiful angel that god created, his name was Lucifer. He began to puff himself up and think that he was as powerful as God. Some of the other angels thought so too so they tried to overthrow God and failed. Generally a created being is not greater than he who creates. Kinda like the pottery and the Potter. The potter can smash the pottery and start over whenever he wants to. But, in Lucifer’s case once he was created he cannot be destroyed because he is eternal. So god had to throw them out and he made a place for them (hell) which is not for us but them however since we are eternal aswell we can only go to one of two places. We make the choice. The first sin was not commited by Adam, it was by Lucifer and he corrupted heaven, hence god made us and devised a plan where he could make heaven pure again, hence the blood of Jesus Christ who went there and covered the alter in heaven with his blood.
“Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace. But the transgressors shall be DESTROYED together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.” – David
“A brutish man knows not; neither does a fool understand this. When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they shall be DESTROYED FOREVER” – David
“Whoever despises the Word(Law) shall be DESTROYED: but he that keeps the commandment shall be rewarded.” – Solomon
“Therefore the Lord will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and rush, in one day. The ancient and honorable is the head; and the prophet that teaches lies is the tail. For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are DESTROYED. Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is a hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaks folly. For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still. For WICKEDNESS(Law breaking) burns as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.” – Isaiah
**See Deuteronomy 28**
“He will fulfill the desire of them that obey Him: He also will hear their cry, and will save them. The Lord preserves all them that love Him: but all the wicked will He DESTROY.” – David
“And showing mercy to thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.” – Yeshua(according to Moses)
“Behold, the day of the Lord comes, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and He shall DESTROY the sinners thereof out of it.” – Isaiah
“My heritage is unto me as a speckled bird, the birds round about are against her; come, assemble all the beasts of the field, come to devour. Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness. They have made it desolate, and being desolate it mourns unto me; the whole land is made desolate, because no man lays it to heart.” – Jeremiah (this is for those preachers who think it’s ok to kill plants and strip the earth bare for science and technology because humans are supposedly so special)
“Saying, We give you thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which are, and was, and are to come; because you have taken your great power, and have reigned. And the nations were angry, and your wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that you should give reward unto your servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear your name, small and great; and should destroy them THAT DESTROY THE EARTH.” – John (for those who think it’s ok to cause damage to the earth by mining, cutting trees, clearing out space, building roads, and anything else that causes harm to the earth and its non human inhabitants)
“The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, says the Lord.” – Isaiah (This is for those who think it’s ok to kill and eat anything. The Law says “Do not kill.” PERIOD. Those who kill to eat will reap their reward)
“You have forsaken me, says the Lord, you have gone backward: therefore will I stretch out my hand against you, and DESTROY you; I am weary with repenting. And I will fan them with a fan in the gates of the land; I will bereave them of children, I will destroy MY people since they turn not from their ways.” – Jeremiah (this is for those who think they are in some special club of chosen holy people who do not walk according to the Law thinking they are saved)
“By the multitude of your merchandise, they have filled the midst of you with violence, and you have sinned: therefore I will cast you as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will DESTROY you, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.” – Ezekiel (this is for those who think that “Lucifer” cannot be destroyed because he is eternal)
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you shall be no priest to me: seeing you have forgotten the LAW of your God, I will also forget your children.” – Hosea (pretty stout warning from “God” about rejecting/ignoring/discarding His Law)
“And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to DESTROY both soul and body in hell.” – Matthew (for those who think the soul lives forever)
“And the Light of Israel(Law; Word) shall be for a fire, and His Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour His thorns and His briers in one day; And shall consume the glory of His forest, and of His fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standard-bearer faints. And the rest of the trees of His forest shall be few(many called, FEW chosen), that a child may count them.” – Isaiah
“The Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.” – David (just to reiterate the obvious solution to the problem)
“Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hates: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.” – Isaiah (for those who think they are honoring “God” when they celebrate their “holidays”)
“The soul that sins, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.” – Ezekiel (only those who keep the Law have eternal life, those who break the Law will be destroyed forever)
I think this is enough reference to make the point… There is a lot more that is wrong with your statement up here, but I picked the most obvious. The immortality of the soul is not a true concept and the wicked will be DESTROYED forever, not punished forever. Destroyed, as in utterly removed from existence, PERIOD.
The law is the old testament, when Christ died on the cross and shed his blood there was no need for animal sacrifice anymore. Without the shedding of blood there is no atonement for sin. By believing in Jesus you are set free from the law. However the New Testament tells us to obey the ten commandments, so that is what we are suppose to do. If you would read the new testament it tells you of the new law. For example, old testament says eye for an eye, right? The new testament says if someone strikes you on the cheek you are to turn the other cheek to them as well. Some things of the law stands and some are changed.
The “old testament” says eye for an eye and that still stands today, always has and always will stand. The difference is that hard headed hebrews(and christians) never could understand the Spirit of the Law. “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord” is an old testament writing. You see, eye for an eye will always stand. (reap what you sow)
Also, the very same Word who is Yeshua, said “I am the Lord, I change NOT”. Nothing was changed, all things in the Law stand forever.
Picking and choosing what you want to accept as still in effect and what you want to do away with is pharisee behavior. You make the Word of God (Law) moot when you do these things and you heap judgment upon yourself greatly when you teach people these things that are untrue.
“Believing in Jesus” does not set anyone free from the Law, Yeshua IS the Law. If you are “joined” to Him, you are joined to the Law in Spirit and Truth; you walk in accordance with it.
You need to discard the words of Paul and his minions and go back and study the Law and the Prophets. Otherwise, your worship is in vain, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men and laying the Law of God aside.
Eye for an Eye? Or turn the other cheek…?
And herein destroys Christianity..
And every ‘argument’ that goes with it.
And every other deity based religion with it.
Seriously…. You can’t technically be classed as an adult if you cling on the fairytales your parents used to control you….
You are indeed Gods children. Naive, arrogant with tour beliefs, full of certainty.that your brand is best.
Which is what children do with sneakers and cellphones.
It’s their currency, tier eexpression of ‘individuality’ but like religion, billions of other people are also wearing the same shirt…. But billions have ‘chosen’ another brand.
War then erupts based on brand loyalty.
Capitalism is just organised religion.
Religion is just organised capitalism.
Tramp or priest
Billionaire or bishop
There’s a.place for everyone…. Lol. Then they turn the screws, demonize the other shirt wearers, reinforce the brand then launch a military corporate takeover (Iraq-oil, Afghanistan-heroin, Vietnam, heroin)
Before every battle… A good old prayer to their respective god(s).
If you don’t get it, you can’t join my brotherhood.
It’s pretty simple, Mr A Hole… If you don’t choose life, you’ll receive death. If you cause death, you are not choosing life.
Mr A Hole doesn’t have it within himself the power to choose life.
No one can choose until they are Born of God and are thereby given the freedom to choose. Man does not have free will – he is lost and fallen and a SLAVE to sin. Slaves have no choices.
Um, is the War in Heaven really over? Or has it just been on Earth since God sentenced Satin to a place called Hell where he could rule his minions. Satin has the ability to deceive us and tempt us if we let him. Perhaps so, hu. He Seems to be doing a good job on deceiving people into doing bad things because they are weak and materialistic. Just a thought. Hate is a form of evil and it grows and we share it and it keeps on spreading because many are blinded to the reality of it.
People don’t understand the connection between “Heaven” and “Earth”, they don’t realize that “Heaven” is the spiritual and “Earth” is the physical, and that they are entwined together. The war has been ever since iniquity was discovered in man. Lucifer/satan is the spiritual side of humanity. “God said let us make man in our image after our likeness” and man was anointed to protect(cover) the earth and its inhabitants. Lucifer was the most beautiful of the angels(spirits; all creatures have life/spirit; there is a “heaven”/spiritual aspect to all creatures, not just humans) but then iniquity was found in man/lucifer and then there was the fall. This war is the spiritual war between the Father and mankind and has been going on since iniquity first showed up. All of those. When studying the finite descriptions of the prophets, one must remain aware of the Infinite truths they are trying to convey, their words are not to be taken literally, they simply put the spiritual truth in words that can be understood. Much like how Yeshua spoke in parables.
Heaven can mean the atmosphere.
There are three heavens – the atmosphere – space – and the Third Heaven – God’s realm.
2 Cor 12:2 (KJV) I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.