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Two Witnesses Declare (Anti-)Pope Francis as the False Prophet and Barack Obama as the Antichrist Incarnate!

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It is no secret anymore, that Obama is the Antichrist, and (Anti-) Pope Francis is the False Prophet.  But, there is so much more to learn!

 

 

The Two Witnesses expose Anti-pope Francis and Obama’s agendas.  Nothing pretty, I must admit, but sometimes, the truth is hard to swallow!

Jesus has a LOT to say about the condition of the churches today…

Note:  Due to the kindness of a commenter, I will be more “specific” about what I mean by “churches.”  YES, there is only ONE TRUE CHURCH!  It is the TRUE Holy Roman Catholic Church.  NOT the Vatican.  But if you refer to Revelations, it begins by speaking about the SEVEN churches.  PLURAL!  I guess the best way to understand that as types of people, and the types of “doctrines” or “beliefs” that they have chosen to embrace.  The two people, that were NOT “condemned” would be best described as the Two Witnesses, the Two Lampstands, that were NOT removed.  For this individual, I will post what Saint Karol Wojtyla said about these Two LAMPSTANDS that were NOT removed:

He said to the Two Witnesses:

“I tell you “the glory of the olive” has fallen!!  And ‘the two olive trees’, are ‘the lampstands’, of the Most High, True God… He is abolishing: the hierarchy, of ‘the institution’– so that all can benefit – if they want to!  There is ‘no room’ for lukewarmness’ in being ‘pope’!   But you, Pope Peter, have ‘the fortitude’and the zeal, to ‘carry on’, in Christ’s missionhere, on Earth – in directing His ‘Faithful Remnant Church’ to Him; even, if it is for, His Justice and Discipline… Because satan, was in the Vatican, and is still there!  And he rules over most of the people.  For his ‘satanic agenda’, has taken the place, of the True Gospel – of True Worship.  Never!  – did Benedict, believe, I would comeback – from the grave! – and testify, against: the evils,he is embracing through neglect!  He is not the Pope!  And the whole World, is deceived! – by him!  And he knows this! – in ‘the deepest, darkest recesses’, of his soul!”
 
You can find the COMPLETE message here:  http://testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com/THE-LAST-POPE.php
 
Jesus said…
“The demon of an antichrist’, masquerading as ‘one of My Own’.  Those who fail to discern his lies, deceptions, and folly, do not fall under the title of My Elect, orChosen Ones…But there is no excuse, the sheep are just as responsible: for they hear My voice and they know Me; and they follow Me out of ‘the antichrist churches’,into True Worship; and they flee the ‘abomination of desolation’ – which is people turning themselves, into ‘gods’.” 
 
Which leads me to the topic of the “One World Government” who certainly does NOT have your best interests in mind!  http://www.testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com/The-One-World-Government.php

But let’s talk about marriage, shall we?

Jesus said… 

“In the case of ‘the gamer’, who ‘married’ his game,  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-qaMXZ_l70) what did you expect?  And this is not the end of the sickness, but people will just become worse, and worse, until there is no hope for humanity… Soon men will be marrying their cars (http://www.oddee.com/item_97042.aspx), and then they will want to marry their beasts  (http://abcnews.go.com/International/video/man-marries-his-cat-10570541) - and this will be allowed, and accepted by many, as just ‘one more step upward for humanity’.  Oh foolish men they are, for what they believe is climbing upwards’, is only going to spiral them down, deeper and deeper, into sin upon sin, and hell.”
 
Whatever happened to the sanctity of marriage?
 
Instead, people have turned the sanctity of marriage, into a JOKE!  Well, Jesus doesn’t think that it is very funny.  

Jesus said… 

I do not bless ‘Bob’ and ‘Larry’, to marry, or to date in preparation for marriage.  I do not bless ‘Cindy’ and ‘Sue’, to marry, or date in preparation for marriage.  This is insanity! – that the “churches” have gotten together, and “blessed” this group of people and their lifestyles.”
 
So, as a result, of the famous agenda’s of Anti-pope Francis and Obama, worshipping the ONE TRUE God, has become a joke, and is no longer reveranced… Thus bringing us to the Final Plagues of these End Times  http://testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com/The-Ten-Final-Plagues.php
 
The MAJOR plague of these End Times is simply, INSANITY!  
 

Jesus said…

“Now it is possible to use common sense and reason, to make excuses for ‘the wrong team’, and to excuse oneself from following My Ten Commandments.  But this does not in any way justify them before Me, as the words, that they use falselywill be used – against them.  So they want ‘a god of compassion’; so they want ‘a pushover god’; so they want ‘higher energy – for themselves, to manipulate for their own gain’.  Well My children there is a price, for playing with ‘too much energy’, and there is a price for making excuses as to why, I, am not God, in their eyes.  People with this kind of mentality are truly ‘the crazy ones’.  It is those who honor and obey the Ten Commandments  (http://testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com/The-Ten-Commandments.phpwritten, on their hearts, who are ‘sane’, in My eyes.  For what I see as wise others view, as foolish.  And what I see as foolish, others view, as wise and acceptable.”
 
So… If you want to be cured of “The Major Plague of Insanity,” you can go to http://testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com/HOLY-WATER-AND-THE-SACRAMENTS.php
 
There is not much time left, so it is important for you to recognize the times we are living in… NOW!



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    • jennijaycee

      It is definitely worth checking out!

      • King of Shambhala

        I made a new article to reveal obama the Antichrist.

        Google:
        The First Black Elected President. Pic-Gallery – Video.

        • CastleFRC

          I saw it. It is very graphic; sometimes people need to see the “realities” of what is taking place in this world today. It only further proves, not only that Obama IS IN FACT the Antichrist, but also that people are truly living in “The Beast State.” People being driven by a “beast mentality.” Here is more information on the “Beast State.” …if you are interested. http://testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com/%22The-beast-state%22.php

        • King of Shambhala

          thanks jenni.

          Great to talk.

          people are waking up because it’s revealed in Isreali magazine today that Obama’s partially jewish.

          I made the article just now.

          Google it:
          Obama The Jewish Antichrist – 3 Videos

        • Louis

          Jenni — I regret to inform you that you are in error. No validly-elected pope could possibly be the false prophet or Antichrist. Such would run contrary to divine promises made by Christ.

          Furthermore, all popes are chosen by the Holy Spirit. To condemn a valid pope as a false prophet or the beast is a sin against the Holy Spirit.

          All sins can be forgiven, but sins against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven.

          Moral of the story — if you don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s better to say nothing, especially when it involves scandalizing the Holy Spirit of God and the vicar of his one, true Church on earth.

        • CastleFRC

          Anonymous, maybe you are not aware of this, but Pope Peter (Romanus) the Last, WAS made the TRUE Pope THROUGH the Holy Spirit. You said so yourself! Who makes a Pope valid? Man or GOD?

        • King of Shambhala

          Maybe George Bush is the false prophet because he did the 9/11 false flag but in any case I’ll support jenni because she says Obama’s the Antichrist.

          I’m not sure of all the rest.

          I’ll let the jury rule on this for me.

        • King of Shambhala

          What I know is Obama’s the Antichrist that’s clear.

          He’s been marked by the heavenly miracle of 666 drawn in Chicago his hometown, the day after his election.

          It’s impossible for this to happen by itself it must be from heaven.

        • King of Shambhala

          666 in of itself isn’t so very rare in any lottery in the world but two conditons make this a miraculous draw of 666.

          For it happen the day of the victory celebration of the election of the world’s most powerful man (the Anthchrist must rule the world says the prophecy) and in his hometown (Chicago is Obama’s hometown) those two things make this 666 prophetical and important because 666 coincided in meeting with Obama’s destiny in an omen sent by miraculous means by heaven or God as Chrsitains like to say (I’m Buddhist and prefer my faith because it’s got Tantric Yoga [sexual])..

          So Obama is the Antichrist.

    • w00dg0blin

      The video was so sexist I couldn’t watch it. I am intrigued though…does Jesus talk to you personally? Because I didn’t find any Bible notations on the quotes you attribute to him.

      You know what? On second thought I think I’ll go find my answers some where else…like the Bible.

      • CastleFRC

        Oh, maybe you didn’t know, I am a woman. And I embrace my gender, very proudly! Thank you for taking the time to read it though. :-)

    • Jose Jesus

      Revelation 16
      12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

      13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

      If you can link the Pope to east of the Euphrates river, then demonstrate it. Only then can it be biblical.
      Also do not be quick in pointing at Barrack Obama to being the antichrist, he will open the path to the false prophet, but the antichrist will come from Syria to me. If not from Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Turkey… You are missing Obama key reason to being president is to bring peace to the middle east as he have tried numerous times since office, it is the only person that can do so, tho his ties to Muslims does bring up a red flag and other key points, his success will come once he has debunked our nation economically and Israel becomes open doors for other nations to attack it… because the strong arm of the west has falling.

      • CastleFRC

        Wasn’t it the Pharisees who were so wrapped around signs that they COMPLETELY missed the first coming of our Lord and Savior? Hmmm… Food for thought… Lol! Literally!

        • Jose Jesus

          Revelation 16
          12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

          13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

          If you can link the Pope to east of the Euphrates river, then demonstrate it. Only then can it be biblical.
          Also do not be quick in pointing at Barrack Obama to being the antichrist, he will open the path to the false prophet, but the antichrist will come from Syria to me. If not from Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Turkey… You are missing Obama key reason to being president is to bring peace to the middle east as he have tried numerous times since office, it is the only person that can do so, tho his ties to Muslims does bring up a red flag and other key points, his success will come once he has debunked our nation economically and Israel becomes open doors for other nations to attack it… because the strong arm of the west has falling.

          Jenni wasn’t it also biblical that the pharisees had to have a blind eye, so that our savior be born and safe…

      • CastleFRC

        Here, this might be helpful…
        Jesus said: Jesus said: Where two or more are gathered in My name – there I am, in the midst of them. What, false prophet has known Me? And, what false prophet has sought to know Me? I tell you how to discern, between the wolves – in sheep’s clothing, and the true prophets of this age: These are My True Prophets. Others, with the anointing – are few; because I tell you: I do not come to most ‘prayer circles’, nor ‘worship celebrations’ – when the people, are the main focus; when the ‘miracles’ and ‘signs’, distract others, from True Worship. True miracles and signs will always point to Me, My children; and they will never be done, in an ostentatious way; nor will they be done to gather a large ‘following’. How many protestant ministers are out there teaching and preaching: falsehood – claiming that miracles are the main focus of their ministry? I tell you I am not with them, for true miracles are done: only to help others, become closer – to Me; only to help unbelievers – to believe. It is: better, to believe, what I tell you; than not to believe, and disregard, because no huge miracles or signs have been done. But the sign, that I give to you all, is the sign of Jonah.
        (Jesus- March 1, 2012)

      • CastleFRC

        Since Biblical references seem to be of importance, here are some that you can also refer to:
        “This generation is an evil generation; it seeks a sign, but no sign shall be given to it except the sign of Jonah.”
        (Luke 11:29b)

        “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.”
        (Matthew 7:15-16a)

        “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. Behold, I have told you beforehand.”
        (Matthew 24:24-25)

        • King of Shambhala

          Yes jenni, there’s been a survey recently that says that one in eight think Obama’s the Antichrist.

          Why are people so silent about it?

          It’s great you speak out and keep it up.

        • King of Shambhala

          Obama’s part Jewish.

          Google it:
          Obama The Jewish Antichrist – 3 Videos

        • CastleFRC

          Thank you King of Shambhala. But here’s the kicker… It seems to be irrelevant WHAT Obama’s ancestry is, as you could clearly see that not many people truly care, because it would require CHANGE, and that is FAR from their “list of priorities.” People are quite “comfortable” with their lives.

        • King of Shambhala

          No, Obama’s ancestry doesn’t change a thing about the future, that’s just what’s stated for the Antichrist by the Bible.

          For people to budge it’ll take sheer terror and witnessing the Hiorsemen of the Apocalypse such as 1. the Fukushima problems, or 2. the Obamacare Debacle or 3. seeing the USA lose in Syria or 4. see Obama dragged to court by Senator Rand Paul on the NSA scandal which seem to me to the Four Horsemen ramming Obama right, left and center and rear.

        • CastleFRC

          You are correct Shambhala, the Four Horsemen HAVE been released. Jesus said:
          “What’s coming to North America and to the World, is due punishment, for their sins against Me. I will punish those who have chosen alien gods, by handing them over to them. I will bring North America and the World to its knees – one plague, one disaster at a time… It begins now. I have unleashed ‘the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse’, that stand arrayed for battle. They are ‘poised and ready’ to battle with flesh and blood. It begins. Now ‘events’, are on ‘a spiral effect’; and now history cannot be changed.”
          (-God The Almighty and Eternal Father in Heaven, Sunday June 27, 2010) http://testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com/JUSTICE.php
          It’s difficult for people to take in, because then it would take acknowledging that, THIS IS IT! Hold on to your seats! It’s going to be a wild ride! :cool:

    • King of Shambhala

      Jenni, make more articles about the Antichrist please.

      You’re the only one on Internet.

      The breaking of the Apocalypse depends upon you and if you can find others to do it with you beause no one is doing it anywhere.

      They’ve all accepted the Mark of the Beast.

      Obama rules.

      • Anonymous

        you idiot… youve been going on about an apocalypse for years now, guess what dumbdumb? it aint gonna happen.

        mental midgets like you are a joke, and if you werent such a horrible waste of space and resources, it might even be funny.

        do the world a favour, see how long you can hold your breath.

        • King of Shambhala

          jenni’s got the right idea.

          She says Obama’s the Antichrist.

          See that wasn’t so difficult, yes Obama’s the ugly and stupid Antichrist, now everybody say it loudly and he’ll be defeated.

          Obama’s the first black president and a failure and shame for blacks and Humanity.

          Google:
          The First Black Elected President. Pic-Gallery – Video.

        • CastleFRC

          Jesus said: It is, for those, ‘that stubbornly refuse My Graces’, that the Doors to Heaven, will be shut to. It is those, who knowing, with full knowledge, of their consents, choose ‘to embrace wickedness’, that the Doors of Heaven are shut to. It is, for those, ‘who seek to profit, from another man’s hurt’, that the doors of Heaven are shut to; for those, ‘who rejoice, in evil, and their brother’s pain’, that the Doors of Heaven, are shut to.”
          (-Jesus, Sunday, April 1, 2012)

        • King of Shambhala

          It’s good to be in company to reveal obama’s the Antichrist.

          Alone one can’t do a thing.

          This is great.

      • CastleFRC

        Of course! There is PLENTY to say on THAT subject!!!

        • King of Shambhala

          And we must say it. >Of course! There is PLENTY to say on THAT subject!!!>

          this article is a hot article at BIN.

          It’s now or never.

        • CastleFRC

          It’s a hot article because the Protestants (key word: protest) can’t help themselves. And that applies to ALL “Christian” religions, no matter how much they don’t want to admit it. It is actually a “Protestant” spirit, that doesn’t allow people to do as Jesus commanded, to become as a child; wipe the slate clean, because they have ALL been indoctrinated with some form of “Religion.” Those spirits HATE to be exposed; it doesn’t feel good. You know you have a spirit controlling you when you feel this intense amount of heat in your body, when it is “discovered.” You will do one of two things, you will either reject it and realize it is there, or you will embrace it and continue “protesting.” It’s pretty uncomfortable, I know. But it is necessary to know where you stand. If you look at all of the comments, there is a trend. “Christians” forget that God never changes, and they isolate him to a small book, that, although accurate and true, if they “let god” (lower case “g”) out of that book, it might rattle their foundations, and they could no longer manipulate the words of it and make them their own. NO prophet has EVER been treated kindly, and yet they refuse to acknowledge that. Seriously, take a good look at ALL of the comments! They ALL have their OWN GOD! Yet, it is 100% likely that they are ALL SINNERS! Yet, because sin has become “circumstantial” in their own eyes, they can NOT see truth for what it REALLY is! Sure, MANY could admit and SEE that Obama is the Antichrist; even Satan himself would say that Jesus is the Christ; but they forget that Jesus spoke out ALL OF THE TIME about clinging to doctrines and teachings. In fact, no where in the Bible did He even carry around a BOOK! Ultimately, that is all they have, a book. Their own god, in a book. In the end, the Two Witnesses are not here to do as the pastors, preachers, ministers, and teachers, and tickle the ears of the people. Rather, they are here to do what ALL prophets and messengers of the Bible have done; either send good tidings (which is certainly not in this case), or warn the people of impending judgment. How’s THAT for ear tickling?

    • Jose Jesus

      Jenni in all, we can throw versus all day, the false prophet will walk thru Jerusalem, and sit on the Temple as God and accepted by all three religions and sons of Abraham. Jews, Muslims and Israelite. Accepted also by the church, its why I said if you have any connections of the Pope entering from the east of the river as this prophet, accepted by Muslims, Iranians and Israelite also where the dominant religion is Islamic not christian or protestant.

      Still the president is this tool to place the false prophet as an Allie to Israel, and since office; Obama has been seeking peace within these countries also. Look at our financial situation that will soon ca lapse, bringing the United States to its worse financial situation in history. We will become weakened by this and divided and will not stand together when all nations rise against Israel.

      • King of Shambhala

        In the Apocalypse everybody will be divided.
        Obama’s driving everybody against each other.
        He’s not in control so there’s no central power and security and the prophecied mayhem is starting.

        You can join a Class Action by Sen.? Rand Paul to sue Obama in court about NSA.

        It’s easy. Just one little click and you’re signed up.

        Google
        You Can Sue Obama/NSA Too! Join Rand Paul Effort and Class Action. (Video)

      • CastleFRC

        Yes, you are right, we could play “Hot Potato” with Bible verses all day, but if I remember correctly, Jesus really didn’t do that, even at His first coming. I wonder why? Oh wait! He DIDN’T NEED TOO! Why? Because He IS GOD!

        • King of Shambhala

          Obama fears being revealed and his aweful past known.

          He’s the beast and that’s hideous.

          We must reveal him and I reveal a miracle which was the lottery drew 666 in Chicago, his hometown the day after his election; 666 is the number of the Antichrist.

          The heavenly miracle being the Lottery – 666 means money to me – and it’s Obama’s bankrupting money which he forces upon us in hand and forehead – and we must accept it thus he enslaves us by the debt.

          Sarah Palin said the US debt “was a return to slavery”.

    • Jose Jesus

      “Shambhala – In the Apocalypse everybody will be divided.
      Obama’s driving everybody against each other.”

      Since when is Obama all nations, United States is being divided and our financial situation will get worse; is my comment from the start. One thing you do not mention is the many times he has sat down with all the Prime Ministers of Arabs, Muslims, Syrians and Israelite to bring peace. Which is my dispute in that Obama can not be the Antichrist. Give a little thought, not food for thinking, just look at which country before mentioned will convert to Catholicism and allow the Pope to sit on the seat and act as God or even more ridiculous Obama. The seven hills is not Rome, further your research and you will find also the seven mounts spoken in the bible around Jerusalem where all this will take effect.
      The only people that will not be divided will be every nation that will rise up against Israel once the 3 1/2 years of peace is over; and the Antichrist reveals himself as who he truly is.

      • CastleFRC

        “Obama” nation, that causes desolation! Get it?

      • King of Shambhala

        Jose Jesus, you’re really committed to this cause of defending the Antichrist Obama.

        Obama’s no gatherer.

        Even the Muslims he claims to belong to, those he’s divided and pitted against each other like Syria where the Sunnis are killing the Shiites and are being killed back again so where does he gather?

        Obama’s a man of HATRED.

    • Jose Jesus

      Jenni, it would make more sense if you flip the titles to your two to indicate this: Barack Hussein Obama as a Muslim will be the false prophet (symbol of Mohammad) and the Catholic Pope, known as the Imperial Roman Catholic Church representative will be the antichrist; this is more biblical and can be researched and proven also by the feet of the great statue that Daniel revealed to the King Nabucodonosor; the legs and feet of Iron the Roman Emperor; the toes of steel and clay, the steel is the Roman Catholic Church and the clay is the Muslims that will rise ten nations against Israel, (found also in Daniel with the four beasts) both will be united but will not prevail as both elements, indicating both religions falsely united…. If you research it like this Jenni you will have abundantly scriptures and research to back that theory more over than the other way!!

      • CastleFRC

        I am only relaying what is on the site of the Two Witnesses. It is not my place to “switch” anything. If you want to know more about prophecy, they have an entire section dedicated to it. http://www.testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com

      • King of Shambhala

        I disagree Jose.

        Obama’s the “False Man of Peace”.

        He killed 200 000 in the Arab Spring.

        He’s exploded racial crime throughout the USA.

        He’s a race-hater.

    • Castle

      WOW!!! Awesome article!

    • The Marian Catechist

      Obama is no where near popular enough to be the antichrist. A forerunner, yes, but not the AC himself. As for Pope Francis, you have bought into a subtle discrediting campaign being administered by satan.

      I can tell that your information is faulty right off the bat. Jesus founded One Church, not “churches” as you state above.

      Beware of “messages” from “Jesus” that tell you exactly what you want to hear. That is how false prophets operate. They tell many truths to lull you into a false security and make you lower your guard. Then, they tell subtle lies in pretty packaging to lead you astray. That is what’s going on here. Do not fall into this trap.

      True prophecy always accords with the Official Teachings of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. This is the only safe anchor point from which to discern “messages” and “locutions.” Otherwise, you risk becoming like those who follow the guy waving his Bible and screaming: “Look! The Lord is over there!” and then follow him over a cliff.

      • CastleFRC

        Lol! Maybe I should have put quotations around “churches.” You see, had I said “church,” then some would believe that it didn’t include them. But it truly includes all religions and sects. No “church” in this world will be spared God’s divine justice… or mercy. But mercy is given sparingly as the only true hope that you have today is to acknowledge “Pope Peter (Romanus) the Last,” as God’s TRUE Pope and Vicar, as he was made Pope by God HIMSELF back in 2007. http://testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com/THE-LAST-POPE.php
        You are correct, Jesus DID found one church! Sounds like you are all nice and “studied up.” But, just as the Pharisees were ALSO nice and studied up, it also worked AGAINST them, as they could not understand “Allegory” or see with “Spiritual Eyes,” because they contaminated THEMSELVES with their own ideas and doctrines.

      • CastleFRC

        It you refer back to the top article, I “edited” it just for you! :-)

      • CastleFRC

        Hey! I just ran into this article on yahoo news about the “False Prophet” Anti-pope Francis. Now, if you could tell me where it says in the Bible that we should “condone” ANY type of sin, then maybe you have a foot to stand on. But, the last two Anti-pope’s seem to be quite complacent in doing their jobs by, instead of calling sin what it is, they make it “circumstantial.” Well, when you could show me in the Bible where sin was “circumstantial” then maybe I would believe you. This man DOES NOT stand for GOD! Not matter how this world changes, GOD and HIS laws NEVER change! http://news.yahoo.com/pope-calls-fresh-church-approach-children-gay-parents-192102096.html

    • Discerner

      Pretty sure the Real two witnesses won’t appear until sometime in the future. They will be stationed outside the wailing wall. They will be like the Prophets of old, possible even Enoch and Elijah themselves as there deaths were never recorded, both being taken by God.

      http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/IVP-NT/Rev/Prophecy-Two-Witnesses

      The http://testimonyofthetwowitnesses.com has very good information but am dubious about their claims to be the real witnesses.

      Act 17:11 These people were more receptive than those in Thessalonica. They were very willing to receive the message, and every day they carefully examined the Scriptures to see if those things were so.

      Wisdom lies in checking the scriptures to verify any claims. Even better don’t read books about the bible when it is better to read the Bible itself. Even better use a program like E-Sword where it provides the ability to read different bibles in parallel, helps to avoid various errors in translation.

      • CastleFRC

        It seems to me that, just as the Pharisees had it all “planned out” as to how the first coming of Christ would be, you have already “planned out” the events of the “End times.” Unfortunately, it was the Pharisees “planning” that caused them to miss His first coming. Even THEY used scriptures to support their “ideas.”

        • Discerner

          I haven’t planned out the end times.

          Rev 11:1 Then I was given a stick like a measuring rod. I was told, “Stand up and measure the Temple of God and the altar, and count those who worship there.

          Rev 11:2 But don’t measure the courtyard outside the Temple. Leave that out, because it is given to the nations, and they will trample the Holy City for 42 months.

          Rev 11:3 I will give my two witnesses who wear sackcloth the authority to prophesy for 1,260 days.”

          Rev 11:4 These witnesses are the two olive trees and the two lamp stands standing in the presence of the Lord of the earth.

          Rev 11:5 And if anyone should want to hurt them, fire comes out of their mouths and burns up their enemies. If anyone wants to hurt them, he must be killed in this manner.

          Rev 11:6 These witnesses have authority to close the heavens in order to keep rain from falling while they are prophesying. They also have authority to turn bodies of water into blood and to strike the earth with any plague, as often as they desire.

        • Discerner

          I prefer to stick to biblical eschatology. The biblical model of prophecy is based on pattern whereas the Greek model is prediction / fulfilment.

          Isa 46:10 I declare from the beginning things to follow, and from ancient times things that have not yet been done; saying, ‘My purpose will stand, and he will accomplish everything that I please.’

          Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal something, but the glory of kings to ask about it.

        • CastleFRC

          Yes, there is certainly NOTHING new under the sun!

    • Pix

      ” But if you refer to Revelations, it begins by speaking about the SEVEN churches. PLURAL! ”

      Revelation is Greek about the 7 churches in Greece. They were not Christian churches but pagan Mithraic ones. Christianity was invented in dark age political Rome, by the worst insane despot of all time Roman emperor Constantine, a zealous devout follower of Mithras.

      :lol:

      • CastleFRC

        Lol! This is quite the response. Never heard of that one before. That must be from years of studying. Unfortunately, the Pharisees also had years of studying that didn’t exactly work in their favor.

      • CastleFRC

        Here, this is for you as it appears you DID NOT read, or maybe did not understand the rest of that paragraph. You see, what is funny, is that is PRECISELY what “Protestants” do. They only take PART of messages and turn them into whatever they desire to make their point.
        “I guess the best way to understand that as types of people, and the types of “doctrines” or “beliefs” that they have chosen to embrace. The two people, that were NOT “condemned” would be best described as the Two Witnesses, the Two Lampstands, that were NOT removed.”

    • Anonymous

      I respectfully disagree.
      david wilkerson’s take; http://www.mstc.ms.us.gov_www.davidwilkerson.com/en/node/1207

      if you need proof of david wilkerson’s walk with the lord; youtube; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFoiz8BvAEU here is a 1973 prophecy and “hindsight is 20/20.

      I would suggest that what he says is correct, christ knew satan was going to target him, so he tried to warn him.

      but lets not forget what christ said in John 17, 4-26 that he had lost none of his disciples, except for the son of perdition.
      and he goes on to pray for those who even the disciples bring the word to.
      “all who call on my name will be saved”

      the man on the cross next to him who christ said would see heaven with him that day did not convert to catholic. he was saved by his belief.

      Luke 23; 42 And he said vnto Iesus, Lord, remember me when thou commest into thy kingdome.

      43And Iesus said vnto him, Uerily, I say vnto thee, to day shalt thou be with me in Paradise.

      He was not baptised nor converted, he simply stated “remember me”.

      • CastleFRC

        I wouldn’t trust ANY website with “.gov” in it. Thanks anyway…

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