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What a War Against Iran Would Look Like

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What a War Against Iran for the Zionists Would Look Like

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Did I mention the U.S. was already broke having been raped by bankers?  Did I mention the U.S. already spends more on the military than the rest of the world combined, with much being on useless defense procurements with 800 military bases in 120 countries?  This does not include the billions of dollars the U.S. sends to Israel every year that is used to fund genocide, ethnic cleansing, and the slaughter of peace activists Zionists laughingly claim are Hezbollah and al Qaeda guerillas.  It also does not include the money the U.S. sends to dictators like Mubarak, Musharraf, Saddam or terrorist organizations like the PPK, MEK and Jundullah.  The U.S. media will serve as a megaphone for Israel no matter how imbecile their claims of Iran trying to kill a Saudi in New York that were completely debunked by the CIA and so dropped into the memory hole.

If there is a war with Iran, I expect it to be historically disastrous for the United States, and that it will be written in future history books as the war that ended the US empire.  History will note how Jewish politicians took over the levers of power through the media and vetted U.S. politicians who were required to swear fealty to Israel.  Meashsheimer’s and Walt’s book, “The Lobby”, will serve as a historical guide much like Thucydides documented “The History of the Peloponnesian War”.  For all history Americans will be shamed by how such a powerful nation let such a minuscule  fascist and warrior state like Israel dictate policy to the detriment of the superpower.  This will go down as unprecedented in the annals of history.  It is a history that will show politicians had to cater to Isreal because the media, political funding, keys levers of the democratic process, and buying off politicians with contributions had become distorted and perverted through corporatism and elitism.

When the war with Iran ends we will have repolarized the world.  It may result in the loss of an army or the beginning of a nuclear reprisal that involves nuclear terrorism, the exact thing the U.S. was trying to deter.  This will forever serve as an example of irony and unintended consequence and will be named a term that will demonstrate a unique mix of deceit, stupidity, irrelevence and arrogance, such as “Pyrrhic Victory”,  “crossing the Rubicon”, or “Potemkin Village”.

As the Iranians already have a Russian anti-ship missile, the Moskit (NATO designation “SS 22 Sunburn”), that is more than capable of sinking a U.S. aircraft carrier in one shot, it will soon be decided if large navies are worth their cost.  Experts say the missile is so high-tech that the U.S. cannot shoot them down, unless they are very lucky.  Some naval experts expect carriers to go down like anchors from these missiles, and with our naval presence in the Persian Gulf shattered,  tens of thousands of sailors could die.  The straits of Hormuz will be unnavigable due to the ease of sinking naval ships, oil tankers, and other civilian ships.  Insurance companies will not insure tankers, and other nations will not even want to bring ships into the gulf.  By blocking the gulf, Iran would effectively be cutting off over fifty percent of the world’s oil supply. It is lunacy to think we can go to war with Iran or that we could stop them from attacking oil platforms, Saudi terminals, and shipping.

The SS 22 Sunburn ramjet missile travels at mach 2.5, engages in violent end maneuvers so as to prevent last second acquisition, and has so much kinetic energy that with the 1000 lb conventional warhead, the blast would take out an entire aircraft carrier and set off massive secondary explosions as other munitions detonate.  The missile also has the ability to differentiate between targets and can identify carriers.  How would the U.S. replace a couple of carriers and their full compliment of aircraft?  With money from China?  The day will come when aircraft carriers  wil be exposed as the ineffective and overpriced force projection platforms that they are.  Experts have stated that aircraft carriers would be sitting ducks as these Russian missiles are two generations in front anything in the U.S. arsenal.  Russia decided it was stupid to match the U.S. ship for ship and discovered it is better to just sink them with standoff weapons, soon we will find if their strategy is correct.

If the U.S. thinks it is going to build up a force against Iran in a neighboring country like it did against Iraq, we may discover that Iran has no intention of sitting back  and waiting for the “Desert Storm” to gather.  Americans have been sold a bill of goods on the Iraq War, but the fact is that with Al Sadr on the rise any changes we now see are only transitory.  The acheivemet of every single U.S. war aim in Iraq has been a failure, except the killing of Saddam.  But, if you don’t believe U.S. war lies and forget that the killing of Saddam was supposedly never war aim, you can see we have been at the receiving end of an Iranian no-hitter as the invasion of Iraq acheived all of Iran’s goals without them deploying a single infantry squad.  

The U.S. might decide to interpret U.N. resolutions as permitting U.S. interception of Iranian inbound shipping.  If this embargo, an act of war, begins to seriously hamper the Iranian economy, Iran may decide to use force to protect itself.  Right now Iran does not want to act because that would start a war the US it does not want, nor the U.S. However, this war can started by Israel deciding to bomb any kind of targets in Iran.  Turkey and China will certainly be willing to trade with China and both China and Russia have told the U.S. that they will not side with the U.S. in any attack on Iran.  This means Iran will be able to get high-tech munitions and equipment outside the U.S. drone Iran had figured out how to control, land and will now reproduce.

If the U.S. decides to start a war with Iran, Iran will then begin escalating its support for anti-US forces in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq.  Then, we may see Iran actually funding al Qaeda in what has up until now only been a figment of New York District Court George B. Daniels’ insanity.  It is ironic that Daniels would blame Iran after former Secretary of State James Bakers’ law firm defended Saudi Arabia and prevented Americans from suing the nation from where almost every single terrorist hailed – Saudi Arabia.  It was none other than the politically connected Baker-Botts Law Firm who had his political pals bar lawsuits against the Saudi royal family.  James Baker, like Cheney’s act of exposing Valerie Plame and Brewster and Jennings Inc. as a CIA front has committed an act of treason.  Do any of our American representatives think this also? Has our mainstream media been mentioning these facts? “No” to both questions. The reason is corruption. James Baker has has worked with Cheney, Bush and Saudi Arabia for a very long time.  He also allowed Dubai to control American port security. The media, at least the mainstream media, is owned and controlled by men who have power and agendas. The agendas are to strip this country of any morals, any values, pride, wealth and liberty that we still barely cling to. The government and our “unbiased” centralized corporate media are best of friends. We, the Mundanes, just go about our daily lives, too ignorant, gullible and lazy to think and reason critically.  We continue to all the media and the powerful to manipulate us just as they are with the Ron Paul charges of racism and claiming he does not understand foreign policy.  As long as we believe what the media writes the government will continue it’s selling out of Americans.

Because there has not been any overt bombing yet, Iran will not directly use Iranian forces, but will provide material and expertise in attacking US supply lines in these three countries.  The U.S. is over-leveraged and anyone can be turned into a tank-killer or aircraft-killer with modern anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons that are  highly effective, cheap to make, and easy to transport and use.

When Iran is placed under crippling sanctions, eventually US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan will also be under crippling sanctions as convoys are turned into flaming processions. The U.S. military fuel requirements are massive and it would be easy for indigenous forces to cut off fuel and other supplies if Iran turned its energies to support such an endeavor.  You do not surround countries with forces of a couple of hundred thousand soldiers, the countries surround you.  Right now the U.S. is in disarray and there are no front lines, secure rear support areas, or order of battle.  The fact is the U.S. military and its combat power is scattered to the four winds and is setting in a sea of Shiites, the very same religious sect that rules Iran.

 A few Iranian armored divisions in combat formation with support from indigenous forces cutting off supply lines, and with attacks on aviation assets and a few SS 22 Sunburn anti-ship missiles taking out a carrier or two, could allow our military to be rolled up.  We would then be required implement current U.S. nuclear doctrine and ”use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear state to end hostilities on terms favorable to the U.S.”  We would then open the door for terrorist retaliation by use of a nuclear weapon in New York or Washington.  We have already demonstrated to the world that the only way to keep the U.S. at bay is to have a huge nuclear arsenal.  Every state will then engage in a deterrent of mutually assured destruction and nuclear weapons programs will become international cooperatives.  Furthermore, if you think Muslims will allow a nuke to be used against them without retaliation, think again.  Why would we want nuclear war to support Israeli fascism and genocide?

The Palestinians allowed the Jews to live beside them for 2000 years after the Jews killed Christ and were expelled from Israel up until they used terrorism against the British to prevent peaceful coexistence with Muslims.  Israel was the birthplace of modern terror and Begin was the godfather of terror bombings.  The Stern Gang and Irgun built Israel on terror and mass extermination.  The world now knows the only solution for an out-of-control Israel is for NATO to be brought into Palestinian territory.  It may end up needing a job after getting smacked around in Afghanistan.

 As Iran ramps up for war, either the US will allow anti-US forces to hold sanctuary in Iran as they continue their escalating and increasingly effective campaign of preventing supplies from reaching US bases, or the US will attack supply depots and training areas in Iran. Iran will become more brazen, though still indirect, in its attacks on US bases and their supplies until the US actually attacks Iran. Once this happens, it is the same as if the US had bombed Iran’s nuclear installations as a first move, except that in this scenario, Iran has had more time to establish its connections with anti-US forces in the three countries and start deploying anti-tank and anti-aircraft missles and Iranian agents.

Once the actual overt attack on Iran happens, Iran will be able to move its conflict with the United States into the open. Now there will be Iranian units operating at least in Afghanistan and Iraq, and possibly also in Pakistan.  There is a possibility that Iran may decide to operate through proxies in Pakistan.  Also, because the US escalated hostilities and attacked Iran against the advice and request of the Iraqis and Afghans, and their respective leaders Maliki and Karzai, the political will to help the US fend off the Iranians, even if it was actually tactically possible for them to do so, does not exist in either country, especially Iraq.  When fighting starts, the US will not be able to count on Iraqi troops to supply its bases any more. Now US troops will have to come out of FOBs and defend the convoys.  No longer will convoys be allowed passage by buying off  the Taliban with bribes.

I don’t know if the US is going to try to take and hold Iranian territory, but if it does, it will find a dug-in prepared and resource-rich prepositioned insurgency, as Israel did during Operation Cast Lead, that will immediately surpass the worst insurgency-based fighting the US had ever faced in Iraq. If not there are no “boots on the ground”, US activity in Iran will be limited to air strikes. However, air strikes did not remove Hussein from power, did not remove Hezbollah from power, and did not even remove Hamas from power.

 Make no mistake about this, shoulder-fired anti-tank weapons are so effective that the vaunted IDF got hammered by Hezbollah and HAD to withdraw or face losing its armour that it had to tow back to Israel after the last war.  The Israelis had to resort to bombing civilian targets, killing civilians, and slaughtering women and children with the complicity of the U.S. Jewish-controlled media.  After-Action and Lessons Learned reports discuss the effectiveness of Iranian supplied and trained Hezbollah forces that have shown the will to stand and fight so long as they have ammo.  No Hezbollah forces withdrew even when under the most blistering Israeli fire.  These are not Palestinian Authority thugs acting like police, these guys are real fighters of which the U.S has not seen the likes in the last 40 years.

If we resort to air strikes, all it will accomplish practically is to build an image of cowardly armed forces that are only effective when targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure. The US will get some hospitals, some power plants, some water-purification plants, but these will outrage the Muslim world. There will not be direct consequences for this outrage, but the colonies of Egypt, Jordan or Saudi Arabia could begin to destabilize.  Turkey will be under tremendous pressure to end its alliance with the United States and Israel, possibly irretrievably. This will be a thousands times more serious than the slaughtering Turkish peace activists and will definitely drive Turkey out of NATO.  There will also be other immediate diplomatic consequence, as the rest of the Muslim world turns against the US in ways that will be harmful later, and after Iran attacks oil facilities and platforms, American can expect gas to be at least $6 per gallon.

There may or may not be attacks on mainland US targets. There will be attacks on Western European allies of the US. These will not be decisive, but will cause the citizens of Western countries to feel some discomfort from this war. I honestly do not think Hamas or Hezbollah would need to be activated against Israel, even if it was Israel that launched the first attack.  Iran can better attack the US directly and more effectively while holding Hamas and Hezbollah capabilities in reserve, so that they can continue to deter Israeli attacks on their territories.  Israel knows the U.S. is in the process of destroying its currency and can not be relie on to rebuild the Israeli military or Israeli cities.

Eventually the situation will stabilize with the US taking constant casualties in defending the supply lines to its forces in Iraq and/or Afghanistan.  Iran will face US bombing, but not nearly enough to displace the regime. With direct Iranian involvement, I think it would be conservative to project a death rate for US troops at three times the peak death rate from the Iraq occupation.

Iran already produces surface to air missiles, but not the most advanced in the world. On the other hand, Russia produces state of the art shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles. Russian “organized crime” groups could “smuggle” weapons to the Iranians, just because the longer the US remains in a losing stalemate in Iraq and Afghanistan, the less able it is to influence Russia’s regions of interest. Hillary Clinton can complain to the Russians about the “smuggling” and tell them to stop, but the Russian reply would be, “Or what?”.  U.S. helicopters will drop like mosquitoes after a good DDT spraying.  Then war costs will shoot through the ceiling.  Tanks will be turned into paper weights with anti-armor weapons.  If Americans think Iraq and Afghanistan are expensive now, wait until war with Iran starts.  And, when Iran takes out Saudi oil fields and closes the Gulf of Hormuz, gas will be up to $8 a gallon thereby send the U.S. economy into a nosedive.

Once firing starts, Russia can achieve a reversal of its fortunes and begin becoming more influential, thereby undercutting U.S. hegemony.  It will break Turkey away from NATO and will veto any U.N. actions.  The US post WWII advantage over Europe and Russia, that has been eroding since that war, may be fully dissolved before the US gets out of Iraq and Afghanistan. If Iran needs help to cause this to happen, Russia has good internal supply lines, connections, and resources with which to do so.  Putin, who was tired of listening to Hillary rant, also has a nuclear deterrent. The US has no leverage to prevent Russia from draining it assymetrically the way the US did when the USSR invaded Afghanistan. The Taliban never needed people to help them fight, all they ever ask for is weapons.  There will be no need to train the Taliban to fight anymore than Paris Hilton needs to be told how to be popular with the guys.  Meanwhile, the U.S. will still be trying to teach the Afghan army how to march.  This self-imposed quagmire will ecourage Russia to ensure Iran is not running out of material any time soon and will ensure the U.S. is burried in debt.   After the way NATO expanded to the Russian border, Russia is seeking some schadenfreude.  With the U.S. being broke, other countries can not be given military assistance as a reward for joining NATO.

We have not talked much about the Persian Gulf.  At some point, shipping is likely to stop because tankers, one way or another, will be destroyed as they try to pass. More importantly though, the US Navy has not come under serious fire in a long time and how it fares under fire is important information that both the Russians and Chinese have an interest in acquiring. If Chinese “triads” “smuggle” anti-ship weapons to Iran, they will be able to experiment on active US Naval defense systems that will provide data for Chinese planners of contingencies involving Taiwan and to the designers of future weapons systems.  Possibly an attack will get lucky and cause huge financial damage and hundreds or thousands of US troop deaths as the U.S. is leveraged throughout the Middle East. Clinton will complain and order China to stop.  China’s reply will be, “Or what?” The US does not have a credible response to unprovable Chinese activity while it is already engaged in a war with Iran.  Moreover, the Chinese hold a trillion dollars in U.S. debt and if they throw that into the world economy, the dollar will only be as good as toilet paper.


In Iraq, if the US has to decides in needs to supply the troops, or fight their way out of the country, either way the US will be no longer effectively able to influence Iraq’s government or armed forces and Iraq will now be a fully Iran-friendly state bordering Saudi Arabia and Jordan.  Israel is committed to defending Jordan, and while there will not be a set-piece invasion, Iranian and Iraqi teams will be able to enter nearly at will and apply pressure to the Jordanian colonial dictatorship.  This government will fall and so might the Pakistani and Saudi governments that have been previously bought off with U.S. money and security guarantees.

Lastly, we have not talked about Iran’s nuclear program. Iran certainly will direct all of the country’s scientific resources toward building a weapon as the U.S. will prove what happens when a country has no large nuclear deterrent. Pakistan, outraged by the US’ attacks on Iranian civilians, will be difficult to deter from assisting in any way they can.  It is very unlikely that Iran will not have built a weapon two years after the shooting started. It will not use the weapon in this conflict, but once it has several, the situation on the ground will have changed permanently.  Iran will not give up the weapon, once it has it, under any circumstances.  Nor will any Iranian government, even if in the distant future,  surrender the weapon.  Even if the US gets regime change somehow, the nuclear Genie will not go back in the bottle.

Iran will be bombed the way Lebanon, Iraq and Gaza were bombed. Unlike Gaza, the US will not be able to prevent rebuilding. The US will face, conservatively, 300 US deaths a month until US voters decide they’ve had enough. It will be a war of attrition.  Iran will obliterate the Green Zone in Iraq with missiles.  To withdraw under those circumstances would mean either suing for peace and paying reparations to Iran, or having the soldiers evacuate under fire, leaving their material behind. Once the US is gone, its positions in Afghanistan and Iraq will be gone with it. It will also have lost Turkey and the colonies in Jordan and Saudi Arabia will be under more pressure than they’ve ever been under.  Then, the “Muslim Street” will gain the funding it needs to overthrow Mubarak’s brutal dictatorship in Egypt. When this occurs, the Muslim Brotherhood will rise to the political prominence it has been denied through brutal and violent political oppression.

Iran will rebuild, be fully nuclear, and by the calculations of the Iranians, the war can be expected to produce both national cohesion and in some engineering schools and seminaries there will be a new generation of Khomeinis and Ahmadinejads who have been radicalized and taught the importance of sacrifice, ideology, and fervent dedication to Islam in preparing them as the leaders of future Iranian generations. With the US having no further appetite to intervene in the Middle East, it will be relatively soon that Iran will regain its position as the dominant power of the region.

The US ability to project force into the Middle East will be permanently diminished and US financing of this expanded war will accelerate our decline as an economic power. How did this war start again? The US didn’t want Iran to have the capability, in theory, to make a nuclear weapon because that would mean Israel would lose what it considers its necessary ability to threaten its neighbors? It is very likely that a generation of Americans, further removed from WWII, will reconsider the US commitment to Israel after this war.

Russia will be the undisputed winner as it benefits not only from the US losing position.  The US inability to concentrate on Europe or other objectives while fighting Iran will allow Russia to dismantle U.S. gains.  We are already seeing the unraveling of the empire in Columbia, Bolivia, and Venezuala.  Russia and Venezuala will also benefit from the spike in energy prices. Russia may lock in its gains with a nice color revolution in Poland just to complete the symmetry of historical justice as payback for US intervention in its previous invasion of Afghanistan.

I’m pretty sure a war with Iran would be the worst mistake in the history of the United States and would set in motion a process that would result in the US being no more globally relevant than Brazil. I’m also pretty sure US strategists are aware of the risks hostilities escalating to war with Iran entail.  I very likely got some details wrong and missed some problems the war would cause for the US.  I’m fairly confident that a decade after the end of the war, it will be generally acknowledged that between Iran and the US, Iran ended up being the victor and that America, as England had even before WWII, will become a greatly diminished power.

 “No country ever had a military so powerful that it could prevent war in a time of peace, or guarantee victory in a time of war.”  Every empire thinks its military is undefeatable, until it is defeated.  Americans, in reference to the American empire, believe in American exceptionalism, the French believed in French exceptionalism, and the English, the Dutch, the Spanish, and the Russians, likewise.  But, all empires fall and the rot of our empire and its politicians and statemen have ensured our fall.  Meanwhile, the Jews will tell us God pre-determined our demise because we did not allow Jews to exterminate Palestinians, but as the rock group Rush sang:

 A planet of playthings,
We dance on the strings
Of powers we cannot perceive
“The stars aren’t aligned,
Or the gods are malign…”
Blame is better to give than receive.

You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill;
I will choose a path that’s clear
I will choose freewill.

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    • HfjNUlYZ

      you are living in a dream world. God help Iran, if it ever sunk a carrier. They would cease to exist as a Muslim state.

    • HfjNUlYZ

      I think the author is overstating American strength and also the strength of the global market. The GFC crippled the economies of Western nations, for what a housing bubble. A war with Iran would annihilate it.
      It is simple the Israelis will attack Iranian nuclear facilities, Iran will make new pearl harbor of US navy in gulf as you explained in above article, also lunching missile attacks on US bases and the Zionist state.
      US will publicly disown Israel, US will fight proxy war using Israel, Israel might use nuke, America will sacrifice pawn Israel as world public condemn it to history. America sets up new proxy substitute to Israel IRAN.

    • Joseph Zrnchik for 5th Estate Media Email: [email protected]

      It would be ironic if the use of a nuclear bomb by Israel against Iran led to the destruction of Israel.

      I wonder if the Jews will ever come to the conclusion that every nation is not out to put them in ovens.

      Muslims let Jews live among them for over a couple of thousand of years, and never once placed them in open air prisons and tried to exterminate them.

      So why is it the Jews do this to the Palestinians?

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