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Above is the iconic picture we’ve been become accustomed to seeing everywhere in the media, used to represent the recent Trayvon Martin shooting in Sanford, Florida. From everything the public has been told, Trayvon Martin was a fresh-faced, innocent looking teenager and the visage of the man who shot him, George Zimmerman, is right out of a booking photo.

The media narrative being sold is quite clear, Trayvon Martin is the innocent victim here and George Zimmerman is a horrible bigot who attacked the young man for doing nothing more than buying skittles while being black. Even Barack Obama seems to accept the fresh-faced innocence of Trayvon, stating, “If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.” More on that later.

It’s becoming more and more clear however that the innocent appearance the mainstream media is so desperate to apply to Trayvon isn’t at all accurate. The picture we’re used to seeing to represent Trayvon Martin appears to be a far cry from how he actually looked once he was a few years older.

Extended School Suspension

There has been a lot of analysis about the character of George Zimmerman in the media, and surprisingly little about Trayvon Martin.

For instance, a few days before he was killed, Trayvon was suspended from school for ten days.

Still, Trayvon had nonviolent behavioral issues in school, and on the day he was killed, he had been suspended for 10 days from Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in North Miami-Dade. “He was not suspended for something dealing with violence or anything like that. It wasn’t a crime he committed, but he was in an unauthorized area [on school property],” Martin said, declining to offer more details. Before that, Trayvon attended Miami Carol City High School near his mother’s home in Miami Gardens.

There has been very little follow-up in investigating exactly why Trayvon was suspended for such a long period of time for what seems to be the relatively minor offense of “being in an unauthorized area.” In most schools, something like that would be a detention, or one-day, in school suspension at most. Not ten days.

Of course, this is why Trayvon was staying as his Father’s house, so far away from school. And it also explains why George Zimmerman, who by all accounts seemed to stay on top of everything that happened in his neighborhood, didn’t recognize him that evening, Trayvon didn’t really live there, and was only in town because of the suspension.

It seems we may not find out more anytime soon, as a lawyer representing Trayvon’s family has sealed his school records.

Multiple Tattoos

To learn more about Trayvon’s character, we have to look to his friends and family to offer clues. Unfortunately, it seems as if most people who knew him are intent on cleaning up his image, rather than discussing what Trayvon was really like.

Even though Trayvon was only 17, he already was sporting gold teeth, and several large tattoos. This one was on his wrist, apparently of his girlfriend’s mother’s name.

This photo, taken from Tray’s MySpace page, shows another large tattoo that took up most of his upper arm.


It seems that Tray was also on Twitter, but his account seems to have been recently deleted by his family or friends.

His screen name was “@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA, as you can see from the twitpic accountscreenshot above. He was also a member of a twitter hash group #team4dat.

At first, I was skeptical that anyone would maintain an account with that sort of derogatory slur in the title, but after doing some research, it’s apparent that it was Trayvon’s account.

The account was in existence long before the shooting occurred a few weeks ago, and was deleted only recently, there are still dozens of references to @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA ingoogle’s cache.

The associated twitpic account matches the account name and is still online at the time of publication. Most of the pics were uploaded months ago, so this account was associated with Trayvon long before the shooting took place.

Several of Tray’s friends have been very open about referring to Trayvon using that account as well. His cousin, who is quite active on Twitter, refers to Trayvon more than a dozen times using the @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA nickname.

Violence & Gang Activity

There seem to be several allusions to violence on Tray’s Twitter account.

His friends posted supportive messages using it as well, about how happy they were that Trayvon whooped Zimmerman’s ass before he died.


Another post makes reference to Trayvon having “swung on a bus driver” a few days before he died.

Did that have something to do with his ten-day suspension?

On Trayvon’s MySpace page, at least one of his top friends, Romario305, is featured making a gang sign towards the camera in his default profile picture.

Almost all of this is in stark contrast to the media’s central narrative that Trayvon was a normal, happy, well-adjusted teenager.

Instead of that, we are seeing long suspensions from school, tattoos, racially-charged epitaphs, and violence.

Drug Culture

Several of his friends have posted pictures of rolled blunts to twitter in memorial to Trayvon.

There is also fairly direct evidence that Trayvon may have been a small-time drug-dealer.

On Facebook on February 5th, his friend posts on his wall asking to talk business. Trayvon says he doesn’t have a phone available and his friend says, “Damn were u at a nigga needa plant.”

That Facebook url should still work, if anyone is intrepid enough to check it out.

Unless Trayvon was selling Orchids, it seems fairly reasonable to posit that he may have been somewhat well-known among his friends for selling marijuana.


Hopefully this info paints a somewhat different picture of Trayvon than the one the media has been forcing down our throats for the last several weeks.

This is a complex case, and while all the facts are not in yet, we do know that Zimmerman was well within his rights to make verbal contact with someone he didn’t know or recognize in his neighborhood.

In fact, that’s exactly what Neighborhood Watch groups are for, to be the “eyes and ears” of the community. It appears that Zimmerman was very good at this job.

No matter how offended someone might be to have a stranger come up and ask what they are doing there, it doesn’t give anyone a license to commit assault.

From what I can tell, Zimmerman was doing a routine neighborhood watch, called in someone he considered suspicious, and was maintaining a visual on him until the police came.

Then he was attacked, had his nose broken and was in a prone position while crying out for help.

Zimmerman was pinned to the ground, according to a witness, and was still being beaten by someone much younger than him.

Many people are reading a lot into the weight difference between Martin and Zimmerman, but Zimmerman was also 5’9 and out of shape. I’m pretty sure many tubby thirty-year-olds wouldn’t do well against a fit, 6’3, 17-year-old.

This is a textbook self-defense case, and I’d urge anyone reading to look at the full set of facts before drawing conclusions.

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    • AsilisArt

      The media also doctored the hoodie photo… The picture of Zimmerman was selected for effect as well. Here’s what he normally looks like…

    • Ranger_Ric

      Just another thug who made the mistake of attacking someone in a conceal carry state and paid the price. Had the Wisconsin concealed carry law be in force last summer (it is now), there would not have been a mob of blacks pulling white people out of their cars and beating them because one of those cars would have had a weapon and a man willing to defend himself.

      That’s why these gangstas love states like IL and CA where people are not allowed to defend themselves. In those states, only the ganstas carry guns illegally.

      He got what he deserved. Good riddance to another lowlife criminal and welfare recipient.

    • Divine Intervention

      From one Anonymous to another

      Karma has a way of getting even .. and ignorance doesn’t cut it as an excuse.

      This young man was walking home with a box of candy in his hand.

    • Anonymous

      That’s what the media is telling us. It’s clear that Trevor wasa THUG. LOWLIFE SCUM!!!!!

    • reebok3d

      This is EXACTLY what propaganda is,

      The media is pushing what they want, and the public is believing it…


      Line and sinker!

      its sad how easily sheeple believe lame stream media!

    • Gojiroiscoming

      He was killed on a SUNDAY, so how could have been expelled/suspended? Did the NBA move the All-Star game to a weekday?

      And yes, Trayvon Martin was a Skittles dealer. He peddled sugar to his kid brother. His weapon was ice tea.


      heh.. an oldie but a goodie – 3 card monte! keep your eye on the race card, as we shift the cards and trick the mix!
      ah! you’re pretty good at this! let’s go again and double the bet! sucker…

    • Anonymous

      Hunting, chasing down, assaulting and murdering black people is okay. White Jesus put us here to be legislator, cop, judge, jury and executioner.

      Great detective work. Now look up George Martin and research the *other* side of the story, Matlock.

    • Gojiroiscoming

      So after 3 years of fighting the perception that the Tea Party is a bunch of racist bigots who only hate Obama because he’s black, you go and release this heavily racist and bigotted story.

      Way to undercut all your positive America First PR, Tea Party Wire! Where in the Constitution does it say killing innocent, un-narmed citizens is protected by law? You think the rest of your “movement” buys this?


      we’ve seen perception management in the media working to manipulate reality and facts, influencing what the public thinks, more by way of emotional response to race triggers, rather than reasoned assessment. race issues and selective racial stereotyping only serve to obscure the truth and forward an insidious agenda.


      criminy, man.. reading the contradicting accounts of what happened from different sources illustrates how facts have become completely muddled. always the result when the media blows up a story based on race. what a miserable state of affairs. race baiting has to stop but the bigger agenda-driven force knows who wins. and we know why it’s at play here.

    • Anonymous

      What does his appearance have to do with the dispatcher telling zimmerman not to follow the boy??????????

    • True News

      Everyone, all the facts are not out yet — the police and grand jury will get to the bottom of this soon, though if there was enough evidence to do it, Mr. Zimmerman would be sitting in jail.

      This story presents background information gleaned from publicly available sources. If anything, it speaks volumes that you need to be extra careful who you fraternize with and what you post on social media.

      Whenever someone dies like this, whomever is at fault, it’s a tragedy.

    • Anonymous

      and where the hell do you come from may I ask. I highly doubt you are an American Indian. and you sound like you praise being white as the best you can be. Maybe you should read more, your not the top of the line sir… far from it. I would rather be any race than white. the history you have is a shameful one sir. Get it together, how can a race who bought people, taught them to hate each other, use lsave work and claimed it as their own work be proud? you are the lazy criminals, belive me. Im black and Im proud no matter what your stinking race says or attempts to do to us we still stand. And your mad… who represents you to the world, yes and i know your mad a BLACK MAN!!!!!!

    • Reaper

      Typical racist Tea Party BS….You represent your people well the only thing missing is the “Hood” you wear to hide who you are….

    • Electrolux

      I’m sorry that a human being was killed especially over nothing really.
      The media seems to be trying to generate strong negative emotions from the population using the “race” card as usual. The “magician” needs this negative emotion from us in order to pave the way for the attack on Iran. This is the method by which we empower the hateful war machine. We are very powerful and if we were “awake” we would see it clearly. War could not happen in a world filled with truly compassionate minds regardless of the intentions of any Elite.
      Why else would the “media” be trying so hard? Why else would the gov’t be trying so hard?
      Generate a compassionate mind for the victim who died and for the killer who must now have this negative force following him for a long time. And find some compassion for the poor Iranian children and adults who may experience such horror from our world.


      @ Electrolux.. so good to see a clarity of mind. all this throwing down race cards is wearing thin and can only exacerbate an already bad situation. even within this thread one sees the attack on black and attack on white.. all of which serves the interests of whom? the very ones who are writing the script. such incredible madness. why are so many so incapable of grasping this? conditioning, manipulation.. just fanning the flames.


      strange how the media cherrypicks homicides to propagandize. typical, how the usual “voices for the people” scream for attention as they jump all over these race laced stories. i live in a city where multiple gun shootings occur every day. where are these voices? seems they only show up where the cameras are.

    • Anonymous

      Hey, white dudes,sitting in your lawn chair drinking beers cheering the death of a Black teen, But when it is your child you want the world to shed a tear. Someday you will get your race war, but it will be you against the whole entire Planet! So be careful what you wish for…The world has grown tired of your endless racial behavior, God did not create One Race of People! But he is a vengeful God and the Jesus Cross you wear around your neck will be the cross you will carry to Hell itself! Jesus do not like Racist he was never associated with one!


      @ anon..who are these “white dudes,.. cheering the death..”? that was about as racist or bigoted a comment as i have seen. conjuring strawmen to justify your rant hardly spells clarity or justice. such a wide sweeping generalization only reveals your own shortcomings.

    • Anonymous

      6000 blacks are killed each year by other blacks. Where’s your outrage over those killings? Where is Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson’s outrage?

      Everyday, on average 3 whites are killed by blacks. Travon’s death took place about 24 days ago…that’s 72 whites that have been killed since Travon’s unfortunate death. Where’s the black panthers bounty now? But that’s not important.

      The media loves drame so they sensationalize it by putting up a picture of Travon when he was 12 years old and Zimmerman in his county orange. Hey, we want to paint an accurate picture right? They stress the fact that he “was a kid who wanted to go buy Skittles”…implying he was merely a child. Yet they found a bag with marijuana residue. The facebook account talks about his friends needing to get in touch with because they need a plant. Yet, he was an innocent kid who only wanted skittles. Had he never been suspended from school, he wouldn’t have even been there.

      Unfortunately, bad decisions were made that night and someone died. That’s sad. But had Travon not circled back, jumped and beat Zimmerman and repeatedly slam his head into the concrete, he would still be alive.

    • Anonymous

      So I guess the eye witness that said Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him was racist too? I guess Zimmerman was racist because he didnt want to get beaten? There are some good facts put forth in this article that the lame stream media would never tell us and if your too ignorant to admit that, then maybe you’re the one with the issue with race.


      ah yes, anon.. here we get to a real issue that is emerging yet again… the Media. perception management – i just saw it played out on NBC earlier this evening. nevermind the facts as they come to light. WE create the reality for you… here’s your spoon, and when you are finished, lick the bowl..

      “We deal in illusion, man. None of it is true!…” – howard beale, network

    • RidgeRunner

      We are now all players in the New Obama Game called divide and conquer. We are Americans seeking freedom and justice (at least most of us). Love your neighbor and wait for facts and ignore the circus. Remember Obama and the race baiters want to divide us all because: United we stand divided we fall.

    • Anonymous

      That’s why Pres B.O. liked him so much, he’s a gangster and drug dealer, just the son anyone would like to have!

    • grasscrown

      @Anonymous on Tue 27 Mar 2012 17:56

      It is Martins supporters that are doing all the marching, spin doctoring, and making death threat all over the media. I think his family are even trying to trademark his name.

      And in trying to rationalise this you will be encouraging its ethical wasteland as it replaces what you called grief. Grief as a mental illness. It would explain Treyvon’s girlfriend waited over a month without reporting his call. The call in which he was ‘attacked’, I far as I can find out no-one has seen the girlfriend of his dad (whose house everyone supporting him said he had come from and was returning to). Wouldn’t the views of the last people to confirm his mental state be kinda important.

    • Etsi Kona

      Lets not turn this into a racial matter. In viewing the info above, it does put Trayvon in question. man I wish I could with draw my signature from a petition in his favor that I signed on another website. This clearly proves that Trayvon is NOT the angel everyone is making him out to be. Guess his family didn’t realize that you can delete the accounts on Twitter and Facebook making them unavaiable to the general public, but due to a legal stand point, it is only deleted toward the public for a certain time, but if it is possibly connected to a criminal investigation, it can be held avaiable to law enforcement and other certain intities that know how to get to it for an unlimited time. Now the family and friends are being exposed as being liars to cover up Trayvon’s bad life style in order to gain public support. This type of parenting and friendship is most likely what lead him down a path that caused his death. Sad!

    • Anonymous

      I think the best evidence of what happened comes from the 911 tapes. The cops told him to leave the kid alone – they would handle it. He continued to persue the kid. He told the cops that he was continuing to follow him. He called the kid a coon. Zimmerman was begging for trouble. You can tell by his remarks he was looking to start trouble. As far as the photo is concerned, I think you would be hard-pressed to find a parent, when asked for a photo of their dead child, that wouldn’t hand over a school picture. Perhaps the better photo would have been the photo they took at the morgue. That way we can see how both Zimmerman and Martin looked right after the incident. I’m white. I have seen race brought into issues where it wasn’t warranted, but c’mon when your kid is killed and they don’t even arrest the shooter how can blame black people for feeling that’s due to race. If you are honest, you know if Martin had been white and Zimmerman black, Zimmerman would have been arrrested immediately. I know we don’t like to admit to it, but it’s true. Put yourself in their shoes and try to be really honest. My opinion of the Tea Party has been significantly affected by this article.

    • Anonymous

      I noticed that you only show the twitter pix of the tattoo. Why didn’t you show the other pictures – a box of Scooby Doo cereal, his school lunch tray, a pair of tennis shoes, a football game, a girl taking a picture with her phone, and a girl smiling. Just asking??

    • Anonymous

      The bigots do not care that a young black male was stalked and killed. To them, that’s just one less of “them” on the planet.

      So what do we know about the killer:
      that he was a wannabe cop who carried a loaded gun and a self-appointed neighborhood profiler/security guard who was known to the police and
      that the killer had a police record and was told not to pursue the victim and that the killer’s description of events was taken as the truth and not further investigated.

      Those are the facts. Attacking the character and reputation of the victim is appalling, desperate and completely bigoted.

    • Barking in the Dark

      i hope your white sheet has been freshly laundered in time for your next Klan meeting.

    • Anonymous

      Where is Barbara Billingsley’s character from Airplane when you need her? What language do these animals speak?

    • Anonymous

      @anonymous: they speak the language of the ignorant and frightened and those are the same people who demand these carry and conceal gun laws.

      they are afraid of dark-skinned people.

    • grasscrown

      @Posted by Anonymous on Tue 27 Mar 2012 22:15

      Most SANE people are afraid of the people responsible for 90% of interracial. It is a sign of the black culture of violence and it’s libtard users that you actually don’t think people have the right to do this. It is a rage filled sign of your slave culture – as after all not al blacks were slaves – and its attempt to absorb everyone else into the hate, violence and betrayal of responsibilities.

    • GT

      You are NOT being told the whole story. Get the facts then come to an honest non-emotional conclusion. Don’t let the man behind the iron curtain…oops, I meant green curtain make the conclusion for you. All around things are not what they appear.

    • Anonymous

      Look at you dividing yourself from your humanity…! No wonder your losing ground, So used to smelling your own Ish, you can no longer tell the different from the pine in your anus and the pine cone between your forehead. Use the eye to thread the needle and you will come out of the darkened state you exist in…

    • CAP

      If this dude had been carrying any of the many forms of non-lethal self defense this tragedy would have never occurred. But what kind of “hero” uses pepper spray?

    • Barking in the Dark
    • Anonymous

      I cannot believe the BS here. Zimmerman was performing his duties and saw someone he did not recognize living in the community he was protecting. It would not be unreasonable for him to question this person. If it was a White, Hispanic, Asian or any racial makeup other than Black, the same would have occurred under these circumstances.

      Witnesses have Trayvon assaulting Zimmerman and beating him while he was down. Zimmerman was heard calling for help, not the other way around. Feeling helpless and in fear for his life he acted the only wat he could have. Was he supposed to lie there quietly while Trayvon continued to beat him? What would you have done? Trayvon was the aggressor and would have been charged with assault if this had ended differently.

      I do not know of anyone who feels good about this or celebrating one more Nigga being killed. It is a shame this occurred, but Trayvon did contribute to what eventually happened.

      A lot of the comments I’ve read are making this into a big racial thing. There are both Blacks and Whites that are prejudiced, but the majority are not. I have run into situations at work, where some Black employees are constantly looking for things they can call prejudicial, whether there are or not. I never see Whites doing that.

      By the way, most crimes, assaults and killing of Blacks is done by Blacks. So, in the rare instance of a White killing a Black, why does it have to be racially motivated? Is it the same the other way around? I do hope you all have your black sheets for your next Panther meeting. In all races there are good and bad. We should never be making all encompassing statements for an entire race or side with somebody only because they are of the same race.

      Slavery of Blacks in Africa still exists today. It was often Blacks that captured those of another tribe and sold them to the Whites. Whites coming to America in those days often paid for their transport by becoming indentured workers, who paid by working their debt off over many years. In the Civil War, Whites fought and died freeing the slaves. This all occurred 150 years ago, get over it. We have people come here from around the world that work hard and make themselves successful. They experience some prejudice here also and it’s not just from Whites.

    • jelyfish

      Cops don’t adjudicate at the crime scene. They make arrests and let the judicial system work it out. No arrest were made… enough said -period. That is the problem.

      Btw these pictures are fake. For the love of god go to the myspace page and look at the last log in time.

    • RidgeRunner

      The Pictures are not fake…and btw the guy was not arrested because the initial response of the Police and States Attorney is that there was not enough evidence to do so. This non-arrest is similar to the non-arrest of the mother with baby in Oklahoma that shot the guy breaking into her home in December–she was never arrested or charged. The Police and the States Attorney both have this discretion. It remains to be seen if a review by a Grand Jury and DOJ involvement will change this decision.

    • Anonymous


    • Barking in the Dark


    • Barking in the Dark

      I am a white man and a proud member of the Florida Tea Party, as well as a devowt Christian to.

      I am absolutely one hundred per cent sure that this boy Trayvan Martian attacked this upstanding civil cervant George Zinnerman in my heart.

      I just did a experiment with my boy out in the back yard. I sent him to the seven eleven for to buy some skittles and a ice tea and I had him come into the back yard where I was standing there. Well sir, them skittles looked exactly one hundred per cent like a .44 Magnim.

      It is no doubt a case of where a black boy set upon attacking an innocent man going about just minding his own bizness as whut happens a lot all over. Its time we see whut is the real truth as they say on Fox News where they have been saying it right for always and exspecialy now as they have the story right that this boy was attacking this man. And just because the original lead investigater on the case on the night it happened said that Mr Zinnermans story was not credible does not mean anything and anyway he was ignored and dismissed so that proves it.

      We will sure here a lot of stuff about this in the days to come and a lot of it will be bull s–t I say. But Fox news will tell us the reel fact of the case and I urje us all to watch Mr Bill O Really or Mr Shawn Hannitty who will present what realy happened no doubt. I wood not put much stock in what any witnesses say who think this Trayvan was trying to excape cause he was being chased that just aint true I can say for a fact. Also let me say hear this is why we need to vote for Mr Sanitarium to be president because of this kind of stuff. I sure hope thare is justice for Mr Zinnerman hear and that this Trayvan does not get away with this. Thank you.

    • Anonymous

      Racist scumbag tea party freaks.

      I’m going to puke now.


    • Gojiroiscoming

      The fact remains, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not. Zimmerman was told not to pursue Trayvon, but he did. He approached him, provoked him, an altercation happened at which point the more athletic Trayvon gained the upper hand and was beating Zimmerman. This situation simply would not have happened if Zimmerman removed himself from the equation after reporting his suspicions, as he was told to do by the 911 operator. Instead he pursued Trayvon, provoked an exchange, and when he realized he was getting his ass kicked, he shot Trayvon…who was still unarmed.

      It is NOT self defense if you attack and provoke the fight. It is NOT self defense if you have the gun and the victim does not. It is murder.

      Stick to the facts of the case, not get caught up in pictures on an internet site.

    • Gojiroiscoming

      Oh SNAP!

      “The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning.

      His lawyer later insisted that Zimmerman’s nose had been broken in his scuffle with 17-year-old Martin.

      In the video an officer is seen pausing to look at the back of Zimmerman’s head, but no abrasions or blood can be seen in the video and he did not check into the emergency room following the police questioning.”


    • Anonymous

      From what I read above it sounds like some of you are saying “if you have tattoos and gold in your teeth you deserve to die.” Scary stuff.

      Keep focused, please: This young man’s parents want JUSTICE, not REVENGE.

    • Anonymous

      … and so what if he sold drugs. He was a kid and had a lot to learn as he found his way in life. Should he have to DIE for it?

      What killed him was ignorance and arrogance on Zimmerman’s part. Did Zimmerman expect to carry a trophy through the gated community as their super-hero? Yes, and it backfired on him.


    • trianglewhip

      I can’t say if Zimmerman was guilty of criminal homicide. but if he was it would not be due to race. This fat wanna be cop fellow should of not follow any stranger like he did. That right there leads to confrontations. He should fell back and waited for the police to find out what’s up. He does have black friends, testifying for him.. However the 3 biggest racist towards whites are Obama Sharpton, and Jackson. I’ll prove it to you right now. Did you ever here them criticize Islam? Me either. Islam teaches that blacks are to be slaves. Tabari II:11 ,Mishkat, v. iii, p. 117..

    • trianglewhip

      The Arab/Turk Muslims enslaved over 150 million Africans compared to the 400,000 that went to the USA. USA have now about over 3 million blacks give or take in all parts of society. Ask about Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, ect. What happened to all those blacks?!
      BO,AS,JJ Are racists that don’t care about the blacks. just like the KKK. Dose the KKK care for whites? No! And the Black panthers are racists fools that embraces their own slavery among blacks.. Do your own research..

    • Anonymous

      It doesn’t matter if Trayvon was a drug dealer………What matters is that Zimmerman did not do what he should have done. The 911 operator told him to quit following Trayvon…….Zimmerman thought he was a big man, carrying a gun and shot and killed Trayvon. I’m a white middle aged woman and Zimmerman was wrong.

    • WhiteBoy

      The 911 Operated said and I quote “You —>don’t have to

    • Anonymous

      In response to the person who posted this…

      “Hunting, chasing down, assaulting and murdering black people is okay. White Jesus put us here to be legislator, cop, judge, jury and executioner.

      Great detective work. Now look up George Martin and research the *other* side of the story, Matlock.”

      …Jesus was a Jew, not white by definition. Your ignorance of His race, let alone what He taught and who He was (and still is-GOD!) illustrates why there will be no racial peace on this earth. And to think you think white people are ignorant. Wow!

    • Anonymous

      Before someone jumps all over me, let me clairfy what I just posted about Jesus. I said He was a Jew, therefore not white by definition. I should have said He was Middle Eastern (but then all Jews were Middle Eastern when Christ lived and I didn’t think I’d need to clarify that).

    • Anonymous

      And Secondly, to “WHITEBOY” It’s idiots like you that PERVERT the truth!! In the 911 call it SPECIFICALLY SAYS “DO NOT FOLLOW THE SUSPECT”!! Quote Unquote!! It is hard to distinguish what the 911 operator said, its as crystal clear as your lie is… It SPECIFICALLY SAID.. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FOLLOW THE SUSPECT!!!! Stop listening to the KOOLAID version on Youtube!!

      Man WAKE UP AMERICA!! You want to talk about SHAMEFUL… What’s SHAMEFUL is 100 years from now, when historians are trying their best to record our generations, the biggest topic won’t be the racial tones. it won’t be the fight between the 2nd amendment, legalized drugs, health care, or any of that… Our generations will be reported as the most UNTRUTHFUL MOST PATHETIC generation to ever walk on Earth!!

      Doesn’t that embarrass any of you?? I’m ASHAMED at how we’ve all BORROWED our grandchildren’s world and what we’ll be handing over to them!! WOW!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!

    • Banderman

      Gee, ya think this might be a ‘hot button issue’? No wonder the loony tune left wing pulls the race card from a loaded deck every other minute and every election cycle.

    • faro0485

      Jesus was not a Jew. The jews were edomites. Jesus was of levite, of Israel. He was more associated with Palestinians than jews.

    • Anonymous

      Jesus not a Jew?? I guess you’re not too familiar with the Bible, let alone its Author.

    • faro0485

      “Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a “Jew” or to call a contemporary Jew an “Israelite” or a “Hebrew.” The first Hebrews may not have been Jews at all,” The Jewish Almanac (1980)

      Many people suffer under the misapprehension that Jesus was a “Jew,” moreover, that he was “King of the Jews.” Thus, by inference, that the “Jews” were the “Chosen People” of the Holy Bible and so ancient possessors and modern inheritors of the Bible Covenants gifted by Yahweh to their forebears Abraham, Jacob and Judah. However, this is not the case. In fact, during Christ’s Mission and Passion no such people existed called “Jews” nor indeed did the word “Jew.” In short: Jesus was NOT a “Jew” nor was he “King of the Jews.”

      In fact, Jesus is referred as a “Jew” for the first time in the New Testament in the 18th century; in the revised 18th century English language editions of the 14th century first English translations of the New Testament. The etymology of the word “Jew” is quit clear. Although “Jew” is a modern conception its roots lie in the 3rd and 4th centuries AD. That is, the modern English word “Jew” is the 18th century contraction and corruption of the 4th century Latin “Iudaeus” found in St. Jerome’s Vulgate Edition and derived from the Greek word “Ioudaios.” The evolution of this can easily be seen in the extant manuscripts from the 4th century to the 18th century, which illustrate not only the origin of the word “Jew” found in the Latin word “Iudaeus” but also its current use in the English language. Littered throughout these manuscripts are the many earlier English equivalents used by various chroniclers between the 4th and the 18th century. Thus, from the Latin “Iudaeus” to the English “Jew” the evolution of these English forms is: “Gyu,” “Giu,” “Iu,” “Iuu,” “Iuw,” “Ieuu,” “Ieuy,” “Iwe,” “Iow,” “Iewe,” “Ieue,” “Iue,” “Ive,” “Iew,” and then, finally, the 18th century, “Jew.” Similarly, the evolution of the English equivalents for “Jews” is: “Giwis,” “Giws,” “Gyues,” “Gywes,” “Giwes,” “Geus,” “Iuys,” “Iows,” “Iouis,” “Iews,” and then, finally, in the 18th century, “Jews.”

      For example: two of the best known 18th century editions of the New Testament in English are the Rheims (Douai) Edition and the King James Authorized Edition and both contain the word word “Jew.” Yet, when the English language version of the Rheims (Douai) New Testament was first printed in 1582 the word “Jew” did NOT appear in it. Similarly the King James Authorized translation of the New Testament into English (begun in 1604) and first published in 1611, here too the word “Jew” did NOT appear. That is, the word “Jew” first appeared in both these well known editions in their 18th century revised versions. The combination of the Protestant Reformation, the publication of the revised English language 18th century editions and the printing press (allowing unlimited quantities of the New Testament to be printed) meant the wide distribution of these English language Bibles throughout the English speaking world. That is, among people who had never possessed a copy of the New Testament in any language but who were now in possession of one in their native tongue. And, although these 18th century editions first introduced the word “Jew” to the English language the word as it was used in these has since continued in use in all the editions of the New Testament in the English language.

      Numerous copies of these revised 18th century English editions ( especially the Rheims (Douai) and the King James translations of the New Testament) were distributed to the clergy and the laity throughout the English speaking world. And so, the new readers of these 18th century editions were introduced to a new word both to them and the English language, the word “Jew.” For, these readers did not know the history of the origin of the English word “Jew” and accepted it as the legitimate modern form of the ancient Greek “Ioudaios” and the Latin “Iudaeus.” Thus, these new readers did not understand or care to question the meaning and use of the word “Jew” since it was a new English word to them. Consequently, the use of the word “Jew” was not only stabilised by these 18th century editions but also its anachronistic application to people and places fully established.

      The original chroniclers used the Greek “Ioudaios” to denote people who lived in Judaea, that is, in English, for “Judaeans.” Thus: “Ioudaia” in Greek is, in English, “Judaea” ( or “Judea”) while “Ioudaios” in Greek is, in English, “Judaeans” (or “Judeans”) Moreover, when the word “Jew” was first introduced by the redactors into the English language in the 18th century they intended its one and only application was to denote “Judaeans” (or “Judeans”). That is, they deemed them cognates (conveying identical implications, inferences and innuendoes) and so interchangeable. Thus, they meant that it makes no difference which of these two words is used when referring to the inhabitants of Judaea during the time of Christ’s Mission. However, since this time the implications, inferences, and innuendoes conveyed by these two words have radically changed and are now as different as black is from white. In short: today, the word “Jew” is never regarded as a synonym for “Judaean” (or “Judean”) nor is “Judaean” regarded as a synonym for “Jew.” The word has taken on a far different meaning, one wholly divorced from the original conception of the 18th century redactors.

      This is its “secondary meaning” that has been carefully nurtured among the English speaking peoples of the world by a secret power intent upon exploiting its ancient power of association. This so-called “secondary meaning” for the word “Jew” has been assiduously cultivated during the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries and bears no relation whatsoever to the 18th century original connotation of the word “Jew.” It has succeeded to such a degree, that now most people in the English-speaking world can not comprehend the true nature of the word “Jew,” its literal sense, and do not regard a “Jew” as a “Judaean.” That is, understand the correct and only meaning of the word known to the 18th century redactors of the New Testament. In short: the word “Jew” in modern usage is a misrepresentation. The etymology of the word “Jew,” first used in the revised 18th century English language editions of the New Testament, is uncomplicated: the original Greek word “Ioudaios” was derived from the Aramaic “Jehudhai,” which referred to Judaeans, the residents of the Babylonian province of Judaea, and not as a reference to members of the tribe of Judah. That is, the modern English word “Jew” is a transliteration of an abbreviation or slang word coined by Babylonian conquerors for the enslaved Judaeans without any due regard to the race or religion of the captives. This indiscriminate use of the word “Jew” to refer to the diverse mass of races and religions then resident in Judaea is the application of an incorrect, modern colloquial idiom without regard or recognition of the true and Biblical meaning of the original words.

      “The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto Him shall the gathering of the people be.” (Gen. 49:10)

      The meaning of the word “Jew” in the Bible is not the same as the commonly held modern view. In the Bible the word “Jew” is meant to refer to a resident of the land of Judaea. Moreover, it is a reference regardless of tribe, race or religion. Anyone who was an inhabitant of Judaea was a “Jew” and need not be a member of the tribe of Judah (Judahite) or one who followed the Judaic religion. Thus, “Jews” and “Jewry” in the Bible not only refer Judah (i.e. Jehudah or Juttah) but also a part of (or place in) Palestine and any other peoples who dwelt there. In the modern, colloquial idiom “Jews” are descendants of Judah while in the Bible it means anyone dwelling in Judaea regardless of lineage or ethnicity. Now, Judah was the largest and the most influential of the Twelve Tribes of Israel with the governing right whose sons where to provide the rightful kings of Israel. That is, they were the inheritors of the Bible Covenants but especially the Davidic Covenant. In short; the Chosen People of Yahweh. However, Jacob prophesied (Gen. 49:10) the tribe would only maintain its pre-eminence until “Shiloh,” came who would then assume headship and receive the allegiance of true spiritual Israel as Isaiah 9:6-7 foretold. That is, when the Messiah arrived. This is why Jesus’ lineage was established in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 to David, Judah, Jacob and Abraham. So that when He took the sceptre from Judah all who receive Him as Messiah give Him their allegiance.

      At the time of Christ’s Mission, in the days of His flesh, few of the citizens of Judaea were Judahites, that is, direct descendants of Judah and so the “Chosen People”; the true recipients of the Bible Covenants. Following the destruction of David’s Kingdom (its dismemberment first by Babylonians and then by Assyrian’s) the forced depopulation of Israel and its people in Exile and bondage, their release by Cyrus the Great and their return and restoration of the Temple, the population of Palestine was very mixed. Although some did indeed belonged to the tribe of Judah and others to one of the other tribes of Israel, many others were descendants of other patriarchs, but, especially, of Esau. These were the Edomites who had been conquered and now assimilated and become co-religionists with the Judahites and remnants of the other tribes of Israel. Moreover, this mixed race were melded together by a hybrid religion developed during the captivity in Babylon. This is the religion of the Pharisee …. Pharisaism … the man-made religion of the Talmud that is today called Judaism. This man-centred, man-made religion was the religion vehemently condemned by Christ since it is the antithesis of the Mosaic Law and the prophets and makes the Word of God of no effect (Matt. 15:1-9).

      “After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for He would not walk in JEWRY, because the JEWS sought to kill Him.”(John 7:1)

      Here, the English word “Jewry” was translated from the Greek word “Ioudaia”, which denoted the land of Judaea. This was acknowledged by modern redactors who chose not to use the word “Jewry” but the correct translation “Judaea.” For example, in the New American Standard Bible:

      “And after these things Jesus was walking in Galilee; for He was unwilling to walk in JUDAEA, because the JEWS were seeking to kill Him.”(John 7:1)

      Thus, Christ was unwilling to walk in Judaea – Jewry – because the Jews – the Judaeans – were seeking to kill Him. That is: Judaea = Jewry and Jews = Judaeans. A Jew is properly a Judaean and Jewry properly Judaea.

      A modern misconception is that “the Jews” are direct descendants of Jacob and so the people of Israel, the true, biblical Israelites. However, by the time of Jesus, because of wars, enslavement, migrations and miscegenation, a Jew may or may not have descended from Jacob. He could have been descended from a number of patriarchs, especially Esau, since Edomites were then dominant in the racial mix. However, although a disparate racial mix the Jews by this time all recognised Pharisaism as their personal and state religion and NOT the Law of Moses. And so, a point of uttermost importance: someone who is called a “Jew” in the Bible is not necessarily a member of the tribe of Judah, a true Israelite, or even a Semite nor are they an essential part of the Yahweh’s Chosen People, a follower of Moses and the prophets. In the Bible, a Jew is simply a resident of Judaea …. he is simply a Judaean … with or without the special status arising from blood of the Covenant People. Yet, this fact of historical identity has been subverted by a secret force whose aim is to use the ancient yet special status of the true biblical Covenant People, the true Chosen People of Yahweh, for their own very dark designs. That is why this incredibly well organised and well-financed secret force created a “secondary meaning” for the new word “Jew,” which is not the understanding intended by the 18th century redactors of the New Testament. That is, those who today call themselves Jews and arrogate the special status as God’s Chosen People and all its privileges by claiming to be direct descendants of the tribes of Israel and of David, Judah, Jacob and Abraham. Millions claim this yet few of them are “Jews” in the proper sense as they are not “Judaeans” or residents of Judaea. That is: the so-called modern day Jews -the Modern Tribe of Jews- are not “the Jews” of the Bible. In other words, the Modern Tribe of Jews claiming the territory in Palestine that was Once the Holy Land are not the biblical Jews, they are not the true biblical Covenant People: they are not “returning” to their “Promised Land” because they were never there in the first place …

      When, in 1604, James VI, King of Scotland became King James I of England, the first ruler of Great Britain and Ireland, he ruled a nation in religious and political turmoil. And, when a leading Puritan spokesman, Dr John Reynolds, proposed that a new English Bible be issued in honour of the new king, James, saw this as an opportunity to bring about a unity with the church service in Presbyterian Scotland and Episcopal England. The redaction began in 1604 and was completed and published in 1611 and this the new English Bible became known as the “Authorised Version” because its making was authorised by King James. This “Authorised Version” became the “Official Bible of England” and the only Bible of the Anglican church. There have been several revisions of the King James Bible in 1615, 1629, 1638, 1762 and 1769 with the most substantive changes occurring in the eighteenth century. Then, Dr Thomas Paris (1762) published an extensive revision at Cambridge while Dr Benjamin Blayney did the same at Oxford (1769). Blayney’s redactions included much modernisation of spelling, punctuation, and expression, but, in which the exact words in the 1611 Bible first edition are used. It is this 1769 update by Blayney that is the basis of the modern King James Bible. Also, since 1885, 14 books representing the Apocrypha were “officially” removed from it. These Apocryphal books were included at the insistence of the king and, unlike the Rheims-Douai and other Roman Catholic Bibles that scattered them throughout the Old Testament, were placed between the Testaments.

      Consequently, any modern, so-called “1611 Authorised King James Version” available today is NOT a facsimile of the original 1611 “Authorised Version” but a copy of the 1769 revision. Even those editions that may even proclaim “1611″ in the frontispiece to promote sales are deceptions, for, they too are simply modern print runs of the Blayney’s 1769 edition. These are editions in which the original text and words of the “1611 Authorised King James Version” have been altered with spellings revised and some words changed in almost every printing done since 1769 and, also, with fourteen entire books plus extra prefatory features removed from almost every printing done since 1885. To get an original, un-redacted “1611 Authorised King James Version” is more problematic and far more expensive. Originals are rare and eminently collectible and fetch huge prices while facsimiles and exact photographic facsimile edition are less exorbitant but still expensive.

      There are 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet and not now nor was there ever an equivalent letter “J”; nor is there any Hebrew letter that carries even an approximate sound of the consonant letter “J.” Furthermore, there is there not a letter “J” in the Greek alphabet. In fact, although the letter “J” is firmly established as the tenth letter and seventh consonant in the English alphabet it is a recent addition to the English script. It was inserted in the alphabet after “I,” from which it was developed and credited to Petrus Ramus (1515-1572) who first distinguish “I” and “J” as representing separate sounds. John 19:19 refers to the inscription Pontius Pilate had posted over Jesus’ cross that in the Greek is “Ieous Nazoraios Basilius Ioudaios,” which in modern Bibles is rendered: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews” In the fourth century, Jerome translated the Bible from the Greek into Latin and his treatment of this verse in the Latin Vulgate was: “Iesus Nazerenus Rex Iudaeorum.” The acronym of this verse used on Catholic statues, icons and imagery is “INRI” …. because there was no “J.” The Wiclif, Wickliff or Wycliffe Edition published in 1380 is the earliest version of the New Testament in English from the Latin Vulgate Edition and in it Jesus is there mentioned as One of the “iewes.” That is, the 14th century middle English version of the Latin “Iudaeus” pronounced “hew-weeze,” in the plural, and “iewe” pronounced “hew-wee” in the singular.

      It was not until the middle of the 17th century that the use of “J” as an initial found common usage in English books. As such, all writers before this time were wholly ignorant of the letter “J.” For instance, William Shakespeare never ever saw the word “Jew” never mind use the word it in any of his works. In the Merchant of Venice first published in about 1600, Shakespeare wrote: “what is the reason? I am a Iewe; hath not a Iewe eyes?” Even the great lexicographer, Samuel Johnson, was unusually ambivalent in his use of the “J” letter, for, in his seminal English Dictionary of 1755 and 1756 words beginning with ancient “I” and the new letter “J” are interspersed. Moreover, although he defines “To Judaize” as “To conform to the manner of the Jews” in both editions he finds no room to list the word “Jew.” The 1933 edition of The Oxford English Dictionary is helpful in this respect and lists the first published usage of the word “Jew.” In 1653, by Greaves in his “Seraglio,” 150. “In the King’s Seraglio, the sultanas are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their ordinary occasions.” By Sheridan in 1775 in his play “The Rivals,” Act II, Scene I: “She shall have a skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew.” And in 1700 by Bishop Patrick in his Commentary on Deuteronomy 28:37: “Better we cannot express the most cut-throat dealing, than thus, you use me like a Jew”.

      The 1841 English Hexapla is a compendium of six English translations of the New Testament, which are: the Wycliffe version of 1380 (the first English Scripture, hand-copied prior to Gutenberg’s invention of the printing press in 1455), The Tyndale version of 1534-1536 (the first English printed Scripture), and Cranmer’s Great Bible of 1539 (the first Authorized English Bible); The Geneva “1557″ (the English Bible of the Protestant Reformation); the Rheims (the first Roman Catholic English version of 1582); and the King James First Edition of 1611. In the Wycliffe version John 19.19 reads: “ihesus of Nazareth kyng of the iewes.” Similarly, in the Tyndale Edition of the New Testament published in 1525 Jesus was likewise described as One of the “Iewes.” Likewise, in the Cranmer Edition Jesus was again described as One of the “Iewes.”; in the Geneva Edition Jesus was also described as One of the “Iewes.” In the Rheims Edition Jesus was described as One of the “Ievves”; and in the King James Edition, also known as the Authorised Version, Jesus was described again as one of the “Iewes.” That is, the word “Jew” does not appear in any of these Bibles. First references to Jesus as a so-called “Jew” (which He was most definitely not) are found in the 18th century redactions of the 14th century English editions of the New Testament. The first Bible in which the word “Jew” first appears is the 1729 Daniel Mace New Testament in Romans 2:13 – 3:21. Afterwards in 1750 in the Douai; the Catholic English Bible newly revised and corrected by Richard Challoner using the 1609 translation of the Latin Vulgate. In 1755 by John Wesley in his “New Testament with Explanatory Notes.” Benjamin Blayney’s 1769 modernised version of the 1611 edition of the Authorised King James Bible. And, in John Worsley’s 1770 “New Testament or New Covenant of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” with notes as translated from the Greek.

      The evolution of the Holy Bible – the story of how the Bible arrived to us in its present form – is testament to the working of Higher Hidden Hands in the historical process. How the revealed Word of God was preserved in the original languages of Hebrew and Greek and transmitted into the modern world via Latin from which it was released into common possession by its translation into the English language by John Wycliffe and others during the Great Reformation.

      “At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day” 2 Kings 16:6

      The word “Jew” is a relatively modern invention used, seemingly indiscriminately and interchangeably, by 18th century redactors to describe Israelites, Judahites and Judaeans. It first appeared in these eighteenth century Bibles and it first appears within these redactions in 2 Kings 16:6 …. in an episode that describes a war between Israel and Judah: when Rezin, king of Syria and Pekah, king of Israel went to war with wicked Ahaz, king of Judah. The Syrians “drave the Jews from Elath” who were in possession of it and so here is the first time that the inhabitants of the kingdom of Judah are called “Jews” when more properly they should be called Judahites. However, the point here is this: the very first time the word “Jew” is found in the modern Bible, they are at war with Israel.

      “And Jehovah said to her [Rebekah] Two nations are in your womb, and two kinds of people shall be separated from your bowels. And the one people shall be stronger than the other people, the older [Esau] shall serve the younger [Jacob]” (Gen. 25:23)

      “They [the Edomites] were hereafter no other than [non-Israelite] Jews.” Flavius Josephus, The Antiquities of the Jews Book XIII, Chapter IX, Verse 1, p. 279

      They [the non-Israelite Edomites] were then incorporated with the Jewish nation” Article entitled “EDOM, IDUMEA,” The Jewish Encyclopedia Vol. V, p. 41(1904)

      “In the days of John Hyrcanus [end of the second century BC] … the [non-Israelite] Edomites became a section of the Jewish people.” Article entitled “EDOM,” Encyclopaedia Judaica Vol. 6, p. 378 (1971)

      “From then on they [the non-Israelite Edomites] constituted a part of the Jewish people, Herod [King of Judea] being one of their descendants” Article entitled “EDOM (Idumea),” The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia p. 589 (1977)

      The Edomites are descendants of Esau (“hairy, rough”), the eldest son of Isaac, and twin brother of Jacob, whose singular appearance at birth originated the name (Gen 25:25). Also, he was given the name of Edom (“red”) from his conduct in connection with the red lentil “pottage” for which he sold his birthright (Gen. 25:30, Gen. 25:31).

      Esau was much loved by his father and was, because he was first-born, his heir but was tricked into selling his birthright to his younger brother, Jacob, with the help of his mother, for a meal of red lentil pottage. Esau lost his father’s birthright and his paternal blessing due to Jacob’s subterfuge and thus raised the anger of Esau, who vows vengeance (Gen. 25:29-34; 27:1-41). Yahweh thereafter called Esau, “Edom” and the country subsequently settled by Esau/Edom and his brood was “the country of Edom” (Gen 32:3). Jacob, the grandson of Abraham and Sarah, the son of Isaac and Rebecca, is the ancestor of the Israelites. Later, Yahweh told Jacob that his name was no longer Jacob, but henceforth, Israel (Gen. 32:22-32; Gen. 35:10). Jacob’s twelve sons were the ancestors of the Twelve Tribes of Israel and their descendants are described as the Twelve Tribes of Israel originally identified by the names of the twelve sons of Jacob: the Patriarchs Joseph, Judah, Issachar, Benjamin, Levi, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Simeon, Dan, Zebulun, Reuben. Later, Joseph’s two sons, his eldest, Manasseh and his second son, Ephraim, were adopted by Jacob as his own and so those two tribes replaced Joseph and Levi among the Twelve of Israel. The patriarch Judah was the fourth son born to Jacob (Gen 29:35).

      The Edomites were thus the progeny of Esau, whose name was Edom, so called from the red lentil pottage he sold his birthright for to his brother Jacob (later, at Yahweh’s behest, called Israel). These Edomites were also separate from the Twelve Tribes of Israel and so were not true Israelites. They lived separately in a different land nurturing an enmity originating with their patriarch, Esau/Edom for Jacob/Israel and his descendants: a hatred born of a deep sense of injustice and betrayal that birthright and grace had been arrogated by trickery. Edom’s violence against Israel (Jacob) was so intense not only due to a sense of betrayal but also because they both came from the same parents (Isaac and Rebekah); in fact, this great and enduring enmity began in Rebekah’s womb, continued as the boys grew to manhood and endured until today in the phenomenon of the struggle of nations. Moreover, because of this enduring bitterness and jealousy, Esau would have destroyed Jacob had Yahweh not intervened

      Ezekiel 35:1-15 describes Yahweh’s judgement on, and devastation of, Edom who exulted over Israel’s humiliation, who was their most bitter foe, and who “had a perpetual hatred to them, to the very name of an Israelite.” Esau/Edom in his hate and anger pursued “his brother with the sword, and did cast off all pity, and his anger did tear perpetually, and he kept his wrath for ever.” (Amos 1:11). Hence, the Edomites’ “perpetual hatred” and “wrath forever” toward Israelites. That is, this seminal struggle of nations, which began in Rebekah’s womb, endures today in the modern-day descendants of Israel (Jacob) and Edom (Esau) …. a great struggle between the Israelites and the Edomites.

      The Edomites lived and prospered in a land separate from Israel but were later attacked and defeated by Saul (1 Sam. 14:47) and some forty years later, by David (2 Sam. 8:13-14). Later, in the reign of Jehosaphat, (c 914 BC), the Edomites attempted to invade Israel, but failed (2 Chron. 20:22). They later joined with Nebuchadnezzar, the king of Chaldea, in his invasion of Judaea, the Judaean kingdom of the Two Tribes, and helped in his destruction of Jerusalem as well as the subsequent deportation of the Judaeans to Babylonia (c 630-562 BC). The terrible cruelty displayed by the Edomites at this time provoked fearful denunciations by the later prophets (Isa 34:5-8; Isa 63:1-4; Jer 49:17). Afterwards, the Edomites invaded and held possession of the south of Palestine but they eventually fell under the growing Chaldean power (Jer 27:3, Jer 27:6). The Edomites were thus Semites since they are closely related in blood and in language to the Israelites but they had no claim on the unique Bible Covenant and Birthright Promises gifted by Yahweh to Abraham, then to Jacob/Israel and then to his descendants. However, for more than four centuries, the Edomites continued to prosper but during the warlike rule of the Maccabeans, they were again completely subdued, and even forced to conform to Jewish laws and rites, and submit to the government of Jewish prefects. Here, at this time, the Edomites become incorporated within the resurgent Judaean kingdom.

      Edomites are therefore descended from Edom (Esau) whose descendants later intermarried with the Turks to produce a Turco-Edomite mixture which later became known as Khazars. That is, most of today’s Jews are descendants of this interbreeding that produced a race called Khazars who had once governed an empire called Khazaria. Furthermore, this hybrid race Edomite/Turk/Khazar who created the Khazar kingdom and who between the seventh and ninth centuries AD, adopted the religion of Judaism. And, it is these Khazar Jews who are the ancestors of the vast majority of today’s Jewish people. That is, Edomite/Turk/Khazars are the ancestors of the modern “Jews” including the Torah-true and Zionist Jews who spuriously claim right to the land of Palestine claiming it it is theirs by biblical demands and ancestral rights.

      Consequently, the majority of today’s Jewish people are known as “Jews” not because they are Judahites and descended from Jacob/Israel but because their Edomite/Turk/Khazar ancestors in their Kingdom of Khazaria adopted the religion of Judaism, called themselves “Jews” and arrogated the Birthright Promises and Bible Covenants belonging to the Israelites, but especially those belonging to the Judahites.

      Thus, “Jews” are not Israelites and certainly they are not Judahites. Hence, modern Jews are not heir to the Bible Covenants nor to the ancient Nation of Israel given by Yahweh to the Israelites and the Judahites and so have no Divine Right or biblical mandate to the modern Land of Palestine.

      Similarly, Jesus of Nazareth was not a “Jew” he was a Judahite, and Jesus Christ was not “King of the Jews.”

    • Anonymous

      WOW, I just read the entire book that faro0485 wrote here, and I have to tell you that it’s PEOPLE who complicate the simple. Not God. here’s a FACT that even today’s DNA specialists have proven. SOMEWHERE there is an original DNA string that they now call Adam and Eve. As the Bible Mentions. Who’s a Jew, who’s a Semite, Who’s a White, Who’s Indian, Who’s African American, Who’s Purple, Who’s Pink.. Let’s be “REAL” here! We’re ALL from the same “ORIGIN” according to the Bible and according to Scientists!! The TRUTH is if you hate Jesus and Religion, then you’ve made a choice to hate. Doesn’t matter if he’s Jewish, Israelite, Hebrew, White, Black, Purple, Yellow!

      Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage! But if in being proud, you have to look down upon another, then you’re FLAT WRONG!! No spins, no storybooks needed to cut through to the TRUTH!! The FLAT truth can be seen even in Jesus’ walk here on Earth. Most anti-Christians don’t know that they and Jesus share a lot in common. The only time Jesus ever got REALLY mad was at the organized religion! Even when Judas Iscariot forsake him, he still kept his anger. He felt pain of disappointment. He communed with the tax payer as the Priests gasped at his actions, Touched and talked with a prostitute, and allowed her to wash his feet.

      it’s these legalistic Christians that still disgust me to this day! And I “AM” a true Christian of God. Because I believe in the LOVE of Christ, an that JUDGMENT is NOT mine, but his to make. I can’t go back to thinking how Moses felt when he came down from the mountain and saw the people’s foolishness! it is so amazing how incredibly far off track humans can get in such a short time!

      For example, all this political correctness about being Gay. Gay is WRONG, and nature proves it in not allowing it within its natural process. So all those gays who think it NOT a sin. You’re wrong, it is.. However, remember, that everyday the average person sins more than 10 times easily. So instead of trying to create a LIE or mislead the truth, just accept that your actions are sinful. And I don’t say that from a pedestal, I too am a sinner. Hell, probably more so than any of you.. BUT the difference is, I don’t make up excuses, I don’t RUN or DENY the TRUTH. I face it factually and I accept that I’m only human and prone to mistake.

      When people can start being REAL about things and get away from all this dynamic side stepping, denial of truth and TRUE COMPASSION for your fellow man, then you’ll FINALLY achieve the desired separation from hatred that we all DESERVE and need from one another… Until then, let’s each keep posting our OPINIONS, drifting further apart, warring against each other, doing selfish acts, and declining morally at a dangerous speed!!

    • ViewPoint

      In January 2011, George Zimmerman vigorously campaigned to bring justice for a homeless black man beaten by police officers. If it is true that action is more powerful than words, than this is far more substantive and indicative of the true nature of George Zimmerman.

      George Zimmerman was in contact with the NAACP (they knew all along he is not a racist) and helped organize a City Hall meeting against this miscarriage of justice, and spent tireless hours putting up flyers and waiting outside black churches to inspire the black community into joining him to seek justice for the homeless man, but was virtually ignored by everyone… until now.

      Family offers evidence refuting racist claims against Zimmermann

    • faro0485

      @Anonymous on 07 April 2012 16:46:10

      I just copy pasted it from that source.

      Yes we might all be from the same family… but, sometimes in amongst family members, you may get one member who got a lot of stuff, and because they got a lot of stuff from inheritance you’ll find jealousy building in the other member of the family. Jealousy is a dangerous thing.

      And jealousy can make a person do all kinds of evils.

    • Anonymous

      wow – americans take retardness to a whole new level.

      your whole society is self destructing and it couldnt be happenning to a more deserving people

      black v white, right v left… keep fighting amongst yourselves idiots, thats exactly what they want.

    • Anonymous

      I thought we all agreed that EBONICS was lazy talk. Sounds like a bunch of savages conversing in these posts. It hurt my eyes to stumble through it.
      These kids need to learn to talk.

    • Banderman

      Racial inflammatory rhetoric does not justice make. There are over 150 ethnic groups represented in America and generally two genders in America. We seem to idiotically focus on ‘just us’ for one ethnic group, ad nauseam, and one gender. That’s insanity and social engineering, not justice.

    • Dr. Bob Uda, Ph.D., CM, CHSP, ILO

      Some people are always rewriting history.

    • One Who Knows

      Posted by on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:14

      BULLSEYE RidgeRunner!
      Nobama is using race as the tool to “divide and conquer”

    • Anonymous

      To Comment on “Posted by Anonymous on Fri Apr 27 2012 07:05″ listed above entitled “PROPAGANDA”

      I’d just like to say that your definition of propaganda is what I call nightly news. :) I don’t know of “ANY” current outlet o news that doesn’t meet the above definition. Isn’t it a very sad F’d up world right now? Just think about the historians of tomorrow and how they will portray our time on Earth?

      And last, I absolutely DISAGREE with the bottom portion of your definition though. Propaganda is “NEVER” neutral. It ALWAYS has a “message”. Therefore it always purports an image that is directed to mean something. Especially when you use the meaning of signs used to have people participate in an election. There’s absolutely NOTHING neutral about that!

    • guitarman

      Every man is innocent until proven guilty.It is not for the media or anyone outside the jury to decide. If the man is guilty he will get his punishment if he is not then he will be set free however; the media will try to divide the American people to avoid the real problems that are going on in this country. This should also be no excuse to attack the second amendment (right to bare arms). The media and even Obama got involved and spoke before the facts were in let the jury decide. This is not a black or white issue this is a human issue. Weather or not this young man was black is not the case, the issue here is that a person has died and that it is tragic. Every man has a right to defend himself and we will see in the case if that is so. Obama needs to stop making remarks observe the trial and learn the facts before opening his mouth. His remarks were nothing short of disappointing as a leader. Instead of keeping the people united and at peace he added to the problem. Spike Lee was also disappointing. You dont right one act of violence with another. I hope and pray the American people can will not let this divide us. Where are the Martin Luther Kings of today, because we really need a leader like that. No a Jesse Jackson or clown like Al Sharpton.

    • Goldie

      It’s obvious Trayvon was a gangsta wannabe. I’m sticking to my gut feeling that when Zimmerman started questioning Trayvon the kid attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman shot in self defense. The only thing Zimmerman’s guilty of is not listening to the 911 operator’s instructions.

    • Wake up

      Actually Zimmerman maybe wanted to do something, why? He must of visioned the scenario bad, why else would he be huffing and puffing? So this case is a lost one. Stop wasting time on it. With all the other problems, it’s pretty pathetic. Good or bad this kid should have never lost his life, and zimmerman was just at the wrong place wrong time with negative thoughts. Simple what else is there? And while this is going on more division. Talk about smoke screen.




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